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perrito666its the checker that does reflective stuff, ill try00:11
alexisbaxw, made an update to the TB call, let me know if that time sitll works00:18
* perrito666 loves git squash00:26
redirsquash perito666 +100:34
perrito666wallyworld: did you see https://github.com/juju/juju/pull/5341/files#diff-0ceede1328e8e268f09822be9fc4cf5fR70  ?01:00
wallyworldperrito666: one sec, otp01:01
axwalexisb: sorry went to take charlotte to school. that time is fine for me01:02
redirsee you tomorrow juju-dev01:06
perrito666wallyworld: ping me when you are !otp01:18
wallyworldperrito666: yo01:19
perrito666wallyworld: yo?01:20
wallyworldperrito666: a colloquial term for "hello" or "i'm here"01:21
perrito666ah, also means I in spanish01:21
perrito666wallyworld:  the link I passed, did you see that before asking for ernonnilless? (or you meanth something else?)01:21
wallyworlddidn't see the link01:22
wallyworldperrito666: which link?01:23
perrito666https://github.com/juju/juju/pull/5341/files#diff-0ceede1328e8e268f09822be9fc4cf5fR7001:23
wallyworldperrito666: oh, didn't see that01:24
* perrito666 clicks fixed01:24
wallyworldwe want jc.ErrorIsNil though right?01:24
perrito666we do, actually01:24
perrito666I wonder I used isnil01:24
wallyworlderrorisnil covers some corner cases01:25
perrito666let me try with errorisnil01:25
perrito666wallyworld: the code got dizzy with everything we tried and I forgot to errorisnil that01:26
wallyworldnp01:26
perrito666... value *params.Error = <nil>01:26
perrito666... value of (*params.Error) is nil, but a typed nil01:26
perrito666meh01:26
perrito666that is a fine example of a useless error message01:26
perrito666ah its the apiserver01:28
perrito666its a params.Error01:29
perrito666well fine people, I need sleep01:36
perrito666see you all tomorrow01:36
thumperfuck02:13
thumperfuckity fuck02:13
* thumper composes email...02:13
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thumperwallyworld, menn0: see email for WTF moment02:20
menn0looking02:20
wallyworldok02:20
wallyworldthumper: +1 from me on fixing02:23
thumperwallyworld: I may quickly whip up a branch that cleans this up02:23
thumperthe idea of a unique index on something that can be empty is werid02:24
thumperwierd02:24
thumperweird02:24
thumper?02:24
thumperone of those02:24
menn0thumper: isn't the issue though that the providerid isn't necessarily known in this case?02:25
thumperdoes sparse mean ignore empty?02:25
menn0thumper: nil values aren't stored in sparse indexes02:25
thumperok02:25
menn0thumper: the index doesn't include documents where the indexed value is nil02:25
menn0thumper, wallyworld: I don't know what the behaviour is when you have a compound sparse index02:27
menn0docs are here: https://docs.mongodb.org/manual/core/index-sparse/#sparse-compound-indexes02:28
menn0but I don't know what they mean by "ascending/descending index keys"02:28
thumperSparse compound indexes that only contain ascending/descending index keys will index a document as long as the document contains at least one of the keys.02:29
natefinchaxw: that bug you linked to in the mail about os.Exit in a test.... that test should just return unless you somehow have JUJU_WANT_HELPER_PROCESS set in the environment02:29
thumperyeah02:29
axwnatefinch: it does not.02:29
axwnatefinch: it calls Main, and Main is calling os.Exit02:29
axwnatefinch: Main should return rc, and main should call os.Exit02:29
axwwhich is what I'm changing it to do now02:29
natefinchaxw: I explicitly changed main *not* to os.exit02:30
natefinchaxw: maybe that change got overridden somehow02:30
natefincher Main that is02:30
axwnatefinch: blame says the line is unchanged since 2014 *shrug*02:31
thumpermenn0: perhaps we should be doing the provider unique check in a different way02:31
natefinchaxw: weird, maybe I reverted it by accident..02:31
menn0thumper: I think we should.... I'm replying to the thread now02:31
thumperthanks02:31
mupBug #1578456 opened: cmd/juju/commands: not all tests are being run <juju-core:In Progress by axwalk> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1578456>02:33
natefinchaxw: you're right, I don't see it. That's so weird.02:34
natefinchaxw: oh crap, here it is: https://github.com/juju/juju/pull/525002:35
axwnatefinch: heh :)02:35
natefinchaxw: mind if I land mine? it has some better testing in it, too02:36
axwnatefinch: fine with me, but I think you'll have some ssh/scp tests to fix too02:36
axwnatefinch: I've just run with my changes, and there's some test failures02:36
natefinchaxw: blech02:36
axwnatefinch: if you like I can press on, and you can land over the top02:37
axwshould be mostly the same anyway, apart from your other changes02:37
natefinchaxw: fine by me02:37
natefinchaxw: sorry to make you waste time debugging that.02:38
axwnatefinch: no worries, didn't take long to track down. I was mostly concerned about the tests being skipped, but thankfully there's just a couple of small ones broken02:39
axwugh, my writing has become atrocious, constantly missing words out02:40
thumperaxw: who needs words02:40
thumperyou know...02:40
thumperthingy02:40
* axw beams thoughts02:40
thumpermenn0: bugger02:41
thumpermenn0: migration fails...02:41
thumperfor spaces with a provider set02:41
thumpergithub.com/juju/juju/state/spaces.go:141: ProviderId "provider" not unique02:41
thumperso I'm not sure it is actually working...02:41
menn0thumper: nuts02:42
* thumper pokes and adds a bucket of logging02:42
thumperha02:44
thumperit isn't the import02:44
thumperbut the factory creation02:44
thumperWTF02:44
thumpermenn0: ok, need help02:48
thumpergot a minute?02:48
thumperI *think* what I'm doing should work02:48
thumperbut it isn't02:48
menn0thumper: 1:1?02:49
thumperack02:49
axwspontaneous shutdown is one way to get me to update my kernel03:04
natefinchlol03:06
natefinchwhat is supposed to happen if you juju deploy trusty/ubuntu --series xenial? :/03:09
thumpermenn0: where is the manifold for the apiserver03:13
thumper?03:13
natefinchwhy do we even have a --series on deploy?  isn't that what the foo/bar format is for?03:13
menn0thumper: that's one fo the things that jesse was working on but I don't think it's done yet03:14
thumperoh fark...03:14
menn0thumper: I believe he got it mostly working but there were issues, or he had to wait for some other stuff to land or something03:15
* thumper nods03:15
thumperwe probably want that landed very soon03:15
thumperdefinitely pre 2.003:15
* menn0 checks jesse's repo03:16
menn0thumper: here it is: https://github.com/waigani/juju/tree/MADE-apiserver03:17
axwnatefinch: --series is for multi-series charms. we're moving away from "ubuntu/trusty", to plain old "ubuntu"03:18
axwnatefinch: and IIRC you should be able to force charms to series of the same OS by using --series, wallyworld will remember better tho03:18
menn0thumper: I can take a look at that once this SSH stuff is done03:18
thumpermenn0: ok, that's be good03:19
wallyworldaxw: --series and --force if needed03:19
natefinchaxw: it just means we have two different ways of specifying the same thing... which is confusing and in this case, causing a bug03:19
menn0thumper: it's migrations related anyway03:19
wallyworldeg if a charn declares it supports trusty and we want to install on xenial03:19
thumpermenn0: it is03:19
natefinchjuju deploy precise/ubuntu will deploy ubuntu on xenial03:19
axwmenn0: how many changes to you have in cmd/juju/commands/scp.go? I'm looking at moving off JujuConnSuite, and using a mock API03:20
axwmenn0: don't want to make your life difficult tho03:20
wallyworldthe expectation is those series specific urls are not going to be necessary, but in the interim, that charm should go to precise03:20
menn0axw: i've made extensive changes to the tests so it would be good if you waited03:21
axwmenn0: okey dokey03:21
menn0axw: I'm hoping to be done with it today03:21
natefinchI can fix that, of course, but then we still have the case of juju deploy precise/ubuntu --series xenial.... I guess at that point I just have to error out, since I don't actually know what the user wants03:21
axwmenn0: can you please test them in isolation, because I found TestSCPCommand fails atm if you run it with others03:21
axwmenn0: actually I can fix that later if need be03:21
axwnever mind03:21
wallyworldnatefinch: no, in that case you require --force03:21
wallyworldand yeah, error if --force is not provided03:22
natefinchwallyworld: well, asking the charmstore for precise/ubuntu returns you the multi-series ubuntu charm03:22
wallyworldit does yes03:22
natefinchwallyworld: which can deploy to xenial just fine03:22
wallyworldthose series/charm urls are for backwards compatibility03:23
natefinch...so right now, it does03:23
wallyworldnatefinch: but the user has specified precise in the url - it they want --series xenial we need --force03:23
menn0axw: by "in isolation" do you mean just run the individual suites?03:23
wallyworldif they specify the charm without series in url, that's different03:24
axwmenn0: actually I had arse about, so forget I said anything :)   I'm finding that the scp tests fail because the output includes identity files from the fake juju home, and that's not expected in the output. running TestSCPCommand passes if I run it by itself03:24
axwmenn0: so it seems to not be getting a clean fake home03:24
menn0axw: hmmm... I haven't noticed that03:25
axwmenn0: I'll fix that and forget about changing scp for now03:25
axwmenn0: well, cmd/juju/commands doesn't run all the tests atm. have you changed that in your branch?03:25
axwmenn0: i.e. because of the bug I sent to the list03:25
menn0axw: no I haven't changed that, just the ssh, scp and debug-hooks tests and implementations03:25
axwok03:26
menn0axw: yeah I saw that03:26
menn0axw: but i've been running the individual tests/suites using -gocheck.f03:26
menn0axw: did you fix that problem already?03:26
axwmenn0: nope, still looking into it03:26
axwmenn0: I'll fix that and come back to removing JujuConnSuite after you land your changes03:27
menn0axw: ok thanks03:27
menn0axw: one wrinkle, I can't land this stuff until master is unblocked03:36
axwmenn0: it's cool, no hurry03:36
menn0axw: if someone is use juju scp/ssh to an arbitrary hostname or address, do you think the users personal known_hosts should be used, or just /dev/null ?05:14
menn0axw: e.g. "juju ssh 10.1.2.3", as opposed to "juju ssh 3"05:14
anastasiamacfwereade: o/09:04
anastasiamacfwereade: lts PR was backport to 1.25... should we forward sugestions to master once the PR is ready?09:05
fwereadedimitern, http://reviews.vapour.ws/r/4772/diff/1/?file=346652#file346652line9309:16
fwereadeanastasiamac, ooh, yes please, that would be great09:17
fwereadeanastasiamac, sorry I missed that09:17
anastasiamacfwereade: thank you. I'll add it to the comment so that Reed keeps track of it :D09:18
axwfwereade: would you kindly take a look at http://reviews.vapour.ws/r/4776/? fixes one of the critical blockers10:55
fwereadeaxw, ack10:59
fwereadeaxw, LGTM11:00
axwfwereade: cheers11:00
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fwereadedimitern, http://reviews.vapour.ws/r/4734/ looks good but undertested12:58
* fwereade bbiab12:59
mupBug #1577798 opened: Juju gives unhelpful error when azure out of resource groups <azure-provider> <blocker> <bootstrap> <ci> <juju-core:Triaged> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1577798>14:11
tych0http://paste.ubuntu.com/16239197/14:33
tych0any reason it's looking for lxdbr0 on make install?14:33
rick_h_aisrael: ping14:47
aisraelrick_h_: pong14:47
rick_h_aisrael: got a sec for hangout please?14:48
aisraelrick_h_: absolutely14:48
mgztych0: see pr #5300 - sinzui make the makefile work on a fresh install. yeah, you get kipple in your case, but the install still works, no?14:51
tych0mgz: it does, it's just weird14:59
mgztych0: suggestions on making it less weird welcome15:03
tych0mgz: yep :)15:03
mgztych0: l104 of Makefile - using ifconfig lxdbr0 to find out if the networking is setup, is the cause of the stderr output15:05
mgzI guess just a 2>&1 would do but maybe there's something smarter15:06
tych0oh, right15:07
tych0because make executes the if statements when parsing the file15:07
tych0mgz: yeah, that seems reasonable to me, do you want to send a patch or should I?15:08
mgztych0: go for it15:08
tych0mgz: ok, will do, thanks15:09
tych0mgz: https://github.com/juju/juju/pull/534915:10
mgztych0: lgtm15:13
mgztested the change locally as well15:13
tych0mgz: cool, thanks15:13
tych0mgz: does your LGTM mean that i can $$merge$$? id on't know much about the process here still15:17
mgztych0: yes, you can15:18
mgzand yeah, it's not super clear :) (I didn stamp on the review site)15:18
mgzhm, though, might be blocking bugs at present15:18
mgzlets see15:18
mgztych0: yeah, like a million15:19
tych0mgz: ha, ok :015:20
tych0:)15:20
mupBug #1578337 changed: no command to remove controllers <juju-core:Invalid> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1578337>15:59
mupBug #1578337 opened: no command to remove controllers <juju-core:Invalid> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1578337>16:02
dimiternfwereade: thanks for the review on http://reviews.vapour.ws/r/4734/ btw!16:05
dimiternfwereade: if you're still about, I'm pushing some updates, including the missing tests and will also tackle your suggestions16:06
fwereadedimitern, cool, thanks16:09
dimiternfwereade: I'll ping you in the next 30m or so for a final look, while I finish a few more live tests16:09
mupBug #1578337 changed: no command to remove controllers <juju-core:Invalid> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1578337>16:11
natefinchfwereade: do you have thoughts on what should happen if someone does juju deploy precise/ubuntu --series xenial?  Should it depend on whether or not ubuntu is a multiseries charm or not?  If it's not a multiseries charm, it's pretty clear that this should fail without --force, but if it is a multiseries charm, precise/ubuntu really is the same charm as xenial/ubuntu, so should we let it deploy to xenial without --force, or enforce regularity in16:16
natefinchthe CLI even though --force is not technically needed?16:16
natefinchalso welcome anyone else's thoughts on this.  I'm not really sure I know what the right answer is.  I feel like, either way, we're going to annoy someone16:17
natefinchI guess, if we're going to annoy people either way, we might as well make it consistent, and require --force.16:18
* natefinch rubber ducks with the channel as a whole.16:19
fwereadenatefinch, ha -- it feels to me like the user is explicitly specifying a charm, and explicitly specifying a series; and expecting us to resolve the charm, discover that it's multiseries and xenial is supported, and do what they told us to16:19
fwereadenatefinch, if it's not multiseries, --force for sure, but I don't think we should need it if they're doing something sane in an unorthodox fashion16:19
natefinchfwereade: I just have a feeling that it would feel weird that juju deploy precise/ubuntu --series xenial would work, but juju deploy precise/mysql --series xenial would not16:20
fwereadenatefinch, I think of "precise/ubuntu" as a charm selector16:21
natefinchfwereade: to the user, it's different behavior based on invisible information16:22
fwereadenatefinch, that's always been the underlying intent: what the user types is input to a specific component that resolves an *actual* charm, and we then proceed purely on the basis of the charm we found: it feels odd to me to attach additional weight to the selector, just to make something fail16:22
fwereadenatefinch, deploying "precise/ubuntu" to machines with two different series is, I think, a clear way of specifying that you want the exact charm in both places16:24
fwereadenatefinch, it's not an unreasonable request16:24
fwereadenatefinch, it will succeed or fail based on the charm in either case16:24
natefinchfwereade: right, but, to an end user, sometimes it'll magically work, and sometimes it'll magically require --force16:24
natefinchfwereade: I guess that's ok, since working indicates that it's supposed to be ok there, and not working indicates it may well explode16:25
fwereadenatefinch, I think so, yeah16:26
fwereadenatefinch, and if they *really* want to try it they can always --force16:26
natefinchfwereade: I think that makes sense... it does give the user extra information that "hey this might break" whereas with a multjseries charm we can say "hey, this should work"16:26
fwereadenatefinch, exactly, yeah16:27
natefinchfwereade: cool. thanks for helping me talk it out :)16:28
fwereadenatefinch, always a pleasure :)16:28
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niedbalskialexisb, ping17:23
alexisbniedbalski, ping17:25
niedbalskiericsnow, https://bugs.launchpad.net/juju-core/+bug/1514874 I am seeing this now with 1.25.5, juju is uninstalling after rebooting the units/state.17:25
mupBug #1514874: Invalid entity name or password error, causes Juju to uninstall <juju-core:Triaged> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1514874>17:25
niedbalskiericsnow, I think that even if 'returned during API open: invalid entity name or password' is a valid cause, throwing a ErrTerminateAgent exception is an over-reaction, instead of putting the connect-try in a loop and log a warn/fatal error.17:29
ericsnowniedbalski: OTP17:30
perrito666niedbalski: I thought we had taken care of that17:32
niedbalskiperrito666, I thought the same, but that's probably only on 2.017:47
perrito666niedbalski: I am pretty sure we fixed that around 1.2117:48
perrito666the last time that bit someone was in 1.18, for reference se PS417:48
ericsnowniedbalski: taking a look17:48
niedbalskiperrito666, which specific bug?17:49
* perrito666 clicks what niedbalskilinked to see what exactly are we talking about17:49
natefinchfwereade: still around?17:53
niedbalskiperrito666, well, with 1.25.5 it's quite easy to reproduce; edit the agent.conf of the unit, change the apipassword, and restart. Now it seems that some other condition can be causing this same behavior.17:53
rediralexisb: what command you working on flattening currently? block?17:54
perrito666niedbalski: that smells strongly like a regression17:54
alexisbredir, yep17:54
alexisbthe others are all yours17:54
alexisband i am happy to meet and discuss if you like17:54
perrito666I should know, I have broken agent.conf in very creative ways with restore and juju never uninstalled17:54
alexisbkatco, ping17:54
katcoalexisb: pong17:54
niedbalskiperrito666, I just did it, wiped.17:54
katcoalexisb: sorry was eating lunch earlier. responded to you email17:55
* perrito666 scratches chin17:55
perrito666niedbalski: is this behavior also present in 2.0?17:55
alexisbkatco, np, I see the response now thank you17:55
alexisbkatco, we are going to want to jump on that bug right away17:55
katcoalexisb: ah, that was 13:00 today?17:55
rediralexisb: I'm looking through https://github.com/juju/juju/pull/5240/files to see how you tackled it.17:55
niedbalskiperrito666, I can check.17:56
perrito666niedbalski: if you say yes I am very much about to ring a hughe alarm17:56
katcoalexisb: kk17:56
alexisbredir, once I am done with my upcoming call we should probably chat, I probably can save you some time17:57
fwereadenatefinch, briefly17:57
natefinchfwereade: along the same lines as before juju deploy precise/ubuntu currently deploys to xenial, since the selected charm says xenial is best17:58
natefinchfwereade: bug or feature?17:58
fwereadeanyone who's around, I don't quite have time to look at dimitern's branch but the only thing blocking an LGTM was a lack of unit testing -- I am happy with the code17:58
fwereadenatefinch, ha17:58
fwereadenatefinch, that *does* rather seem to break the law of least surprise, doesn't it :-/17:59
natefinchfwereade: I actually kind of wish precise/ubuntu wouldn't resolve anymore if ubuntu is a multiseries charm17:59
fwereadeyeah17:59
dimiternfwereade: thanks! I'm doing a final live test after adding concrete errors as discussed (it was surprisingly hard to do outside of the errors package and still get the same effect)17:59
fwereadenatefinch, the most DWIMmy thing I can think of is to use features of the selector as tie-breakers when the user hasn't otherwise specified18:00
natefinchfwereade: that seems fair18:01
fwereadenatefinch, cool18:01
natefinchfwereade: cool, thanks18:01
fwereadedimitern, hard to do as single error values?18:02
natefinchcore team meeting anyone?18:02
fwereadenatefinch, ...dammit, I can't really :( need to get supper18:02
dimiternfwereade: well, that would've been a lot simpler, but I wanted to preserve the error stack and the usual way of tracing/annotating18:02
natefinchfwereade: totally understood :)18:03
fwereadedimitern, fair enough, but I think once you've understood the situation well enough to pick a specific error the rest of the context is less interesting and can probably be dropped18:03
fwereaderegardless :)18:03
* fwereade gtg18:04
perrito666so anybody coming to the team meeting?18:08
rediralexisb: OK.18:13
rediron the team meeting18:13
dimiternalexisb, fwereade, also OCRs, etc: http://reviews.vapour.ws/r/4734/ is ready and tested well enough to get approval and land I think, which will fix bug 132144218:18
mupBug #1321442: Juju does not support EC2 with no default VPC <ec2-provider> <network> <juju-core:In Progress by dimitern> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1321442>18:18
natefinchredir: btw - http://juju.fail/ will give you the state blocked release branches18:29
alexisbredir, I am available when you are18:34
mupBug #1501398 changed: Test suite failures with WSARecv timeout <blocker> <centos> <ci> <go1.6> <ppc64el> <test-failure> <juju-core:Fix Released by axwalk> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1501398>18:36
mupBug #1570883 changed: imageSuite.TestEnsureImageExistsCallbackIncludesSourceURL fails on centos go 1.6 <blocker> <centos> <ci> <go1.6> <jujuqc> <lxd> <juju-core:Fix Released by axwalk> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1570883>18:36
mupBug #1578254 changed: Race in apiserver/common and apiserver/proxyupdater <blocker> <ci> <race-condition> <regression> <juju-core:Fix Released by hduran-8> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1578254>18:36
mgznatefinch, starving his family18:41
alexisbredir, I am going to step out for a bit for lunch, I will ping you when I am back18:55
rediralexisb: me too and I'll be back.18:55
mgzsinzui: should bug 1571914 and so on actually be blockers?18:57
mupBug #1571914: github.com/juju/juju/cmd/jujud unit tests fail if xenial is the LTS <juju-core:In Progress by reedobrien> <juju-core 1.25:In Progress by reedobrien> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1571914>18:57
mgzwe hacked around the failures, but holding up the branch from landing seems perverse18:57
sinzuimgz: I will make a exception for the LTS fixes. We are running our of time to land those before my hack fails18:58
mgzsinzui: is it really an exception?18:59
mgzwithout the hack, it would be failing tests, which would block18:59
mgzso, I think redir should land, and we should remove the hack18:59
sinzuimgz: yes, that is what I mean.19:00
mgz$$fixes-1571914$$19:00
niedbalskiericsnow, any idea?19:02
ericsnowniedbalski: just about to add a lengthy comment to the bug19:03
niedbalskiericsnow, thanks.19:03
ericsnowniedbalski: done; hope that helps19:10
redirmgz that didn't work against master19:21
mgzredir: let me double check19:21
mgzredir: I see, only marked as 'high' against master, fixing now19:22
mgzredir: go again19:22
fwereadealexisb, http://reviews.vapour.ws/r/4734/ LGTM, none of my issues should block landing19:33
* fwereade disappears again19:33
katcoericsnow: natefinch: we need to chat rq20:15
natefinchkatco: kk20:15
katconatefinch: moonstone20:15
alexisbfwereade, awesome thank you20:33
alexisbredir, I am back and ready when you are20:33
redirk20:38
rediralexisb: gimme 520:38
redirsinzui: the s390x /tmp issue is all sorted yes?21:11
sinzuiredir: yes it is21:11
redirtx21:11
rediralexisb: there's no cards in leankit for these command updates are there?21:13
rediralexisb: what about launchpad?21:14
alexisbredir, no21:14
alexisband no21:14
redirk21:14
alexisbredir, probably worth adding a card to tanzinite board for this21:14
redirgx21:14
redirtx21:14
redirOK will do alexisb21:14
perrito666mgz: can you pass me that link for maas images again?21:21
mgzperrito666: wiki.cloudbase.it/maas21:24
perrito666tx21:25
* perrito666 kicks his maas until it works21:35
katcobogdanteleaga: ping?21:45
mupBug #1578834 opened: update-alternatives fails to switch between juju-1 and juju-2 <juju-core:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1578834>21:51
perrito666curiosity, cannot run qemu and vbox at the same time21:54
perrito666wallyworld: is 1:1 going to happen?21:56
wallyworldperrito666: yeah, finishing a qa meeting, and also just need to ensure another clash won't happen, will ping in a sec21:56
perrito666k21:57
axwmenn0: sorry for piking last night, I hope my notes were at least helpful. did you talk about remote lxd / untrusted users vs. profiles at all?22:52
menn0axw: np. your notes were very helpful.22:52
menn0axw: we didn't talk about the lxd profiles item much, but the one pager for it is on my plate now.22:53
menn0axw: can we perhaps talk about it on monday?22:53
axwmenn0: yep, no worries22:53
menn0axw: i'm a bit pushed for time today22:53
axwmenn0: np, just wondering if it came up that's all. we can talk later22:54
axw(it only occurred to me while I was writing notes :))22:54
menn0axw: to be honest, before I saw your notes about it I thought it was only about the lxd provider. I wasn't think about remote lxd containers.22:54
menn0axw: one thing which was mentioned last night is the Will was pretty sure placement directives were the right way to go.22:55
axwmenn0: it may be, but I meant lxd provider targeting a remote host, not lxd containers22:55
axwmenn0: yeah that's my feeling too22:55
menn0axw: I haven't put enough thought into it yet22:55
redirmgz: sinzui: FWIW, both the 1.25 and master fixes for the LTS hack have merged. In case you missed 'em.22:56
mgzredir: ta22:56
axwmenn0: you can't *yet22:56
axw*22:56
sinzuiredir: thank you22:56

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