[00:00] <clivejo> I copied your FW 5.21 over into staging Plasma
[00:00] <clivejo> and trying to build powerdevil
[00:00] <sgclark> not surprising. 
[00:00] <sgclark> ok
[00:00] <sgclark> oh go way ci
[00:00] <sgclark> I hate you
[00:00] <clivejo> are you still working on FW5.21?
[00:00] <sgclark> well if it broken I guess I am
[00:01] <clivejo> sgclark: can I leave it with you then?
[00:02] <clivejo> Im basically stuck on plasma 5.6.3 until thats fixed to build the last three packages
[00:02] <sgclark> I see.
[00:03] <sgclark> will get to it as soon as I can
[00:03] <clivejo> and its 1am, so I should call it a night!
[00:03] <sgclark> yes
[00:03] <sgclark> yes you should
[00:04] <clivejo> eakkk, thats annoying
[00:04] <clivejo> night night 
[00:04] <sgclark> sleep well clivejo
[10:00] <Odur> Are you going to build 15.12.3 kde-l10n-* packages for xenial?
[10:03] <Odur> Or should I just use the yakkety packages?
[10:06] <soee> yofel: ^
[10:07] <clivejo> Kubuntu sucks!! I installed Yakkety Yak and the Plasma Staging PPA and now my computer is broken, who do I sue?
[10:10] <soee> clivejo: what is broken exacyly /
[10:10] <clivejo> everything!
[10:10] <clivejo> it even killed my cat
[10:11] <clivejo> oh wait, I dont own a cat
[10:13]  * clivejo waits impatiently on LP publisher
[10:13] <Odur> Also the kde-telepathy-integration-module packages are still 15.12.1 in the main repros, but 15.12.3 exist in staging ppa
[10:16] <Odur> And the same for cantor, libkf5sane  and libkf5kface
[10:39] <clivejo> sgclark: Regarding FW5.21 networkmanager-qt I think thats another symbols issue
[10:41] <clivejo> actually there ar a few marked orange are sysmbols too
[10:43] <clivejo> also, Im still getting a installation error on plasma-frameworks
[10:43] <clivejo> Errors were encountered while processing:
[10:43] <clivejo>  /var/cache/apt/archives/plasma-framework-dev_5.21.0-0ubuntu1~ubuntu16.10~ppa2_amd64.deb
[10:43] <soee> clivejo: how yo can have working desktop while not all Plasma 5.6 packages are build fine ?:)
[10:43] <clivejo> soee: I was messing
[10:43] <soee> oh you ..
[10:44] <clivejo> do you think I would install plasma staging when I KNOW what a mess it is in?!?
[10:52] <clivejo> is there anyone with yakkety installed who could install plasma-framework-dev from frameworks staging and see why the install is failing?
[10:54] <mamarley> Not running Yakkety yet, but I could install a VM after work if no-one else has yet.
[10:55] <clivejo> mamarley: no problem, just wondering why it wont install
[10:55] <clivejo> Errors were encountered isnt very helpful
[10:56] <mamarley> I am just about to leave for work though, so it would be quite a while.
[10:56] <clivejo> was just on the off chance someone had it installed
[10:57] <mamarley> Maybe if I get the download started now I can get it done before I leave.
[10:57] <clivejo> mamarley: nah dont waste time on it
[10:57] <mamarley> clivejo: It isn't a waste if it helps you out.
[10:57] <clivejo> I should create a pbuild env for yakkety anyways
[10:58] <clivejo> just taking a short cut!
[11:01]  * clivejo creates a pbuild env for yakkety
[11:03] <mamarley> OK, Yakkety is installing in a VM.  I need to go take a shower…
[11:05] <clivejo> !info libstrigiqtdbusclient-dev
[11:06] <clivejo> sgclark: https://paste.kde.org/p8j7skiyx
[11:10] <soee> clivejo: Bluskaj has it installed i think
[11:11] <clivejo> soee: its ok, got an env up and running
[11:11] <soee> nice :)
[11:14] <clivejo> ok so it looks like a problem with kpackage
[11:14] <clivejo> which is in orange and showing issues with symbols
[11:16] <clivejo> so cant do anything until scarlett fixes those packages
[11:16]  * clivejo wanders off to break stuff in OSM
[11:37] <BluesKaj> Hey folks
[11:42] <mamarley> clivejo: Unpacking plasma-framework-dev (5.21.0-0ubuntu1~ubuntu16.10~ppa2) ...
[11:42] <mamarley> dpkg: error processing archive /var/cache/apt/archives/plasma-framework-dev_5.21.0-0ubuntu1~ubuntu16.10~ppa2_amd64.deb (--unpack):
[11:42] <mamarley>  trying to overwrite '/usr/share/kdevappwizard/templates/cpp-plasmoid.tar.bz2', which is also in package plasma-framework 5.18.0-0ubuntu1
[11:42] <mamarley> dpkg-deb: error: subprocess paste was killed by signal (Broken pipe)
[11:55] <allee> clivejo: is strigi not dead and replaced by baloo?
[12:11] <BluesKaj> !strigi
[12:12] <BluesKaj> allee, strigi is still available in the repos, it's just not installed by default anymore
[12:13] <allee> BluesKaj: should'nt it be removed?   There are also akonadi with qt4 remnant and baloo qt4 remnant that should go away
[12:14] <allee> no point in using (CPU) time in keeping them
[12:15] <BluesKaj> akonadi is still defualt , it's just more hidden now
[12:16] <allee> BluesKaj: akonadi qt5 yes.   libakonadi* qt4 no
[12:19] <BluesKaj> allee, yeah, I'm testing 16.10, no akonadi-server ...yet
[12:20] <allee> BluesKaj: found them in xenial yesterday.   Still need to find my trello pw to add a card for them
[12:22] <BluesKaj> ,
[12:22] <BluesKaj> some PIM packages are stilll not installed on 16.10, like akregator the only app from the PIM package that I ever use
[12:23] <BluesKaj> but I'm a home user ,no need for a large database for email etc
[12:24] <allee> mhhmm isn't everything in xenial at the beginning also in yakkety?  If pkgs are working is anohter story ;-)
[12:26] <BluesKaj> allee, not yet 
[12:26] <BluesKaj> they're listed in muon , but the dependencies aren't availabel for many packages
[12:27] <allee> BluesKaj: oh, so for a yakkety VM I should use xenial iso + do-release-upgrade.     
[12:27] <allee> I better about the yakkety daily iso download :-(
[12:27] <allee> s/about/abort/
[12:27] <BluesKaj> yeah, the daily would be good for a vm
[12:44] <sgclark> yofel: my several attempts at rerunning the translations failed miserably with piles of http://paste.ubuntu.com/16237229/
[12:47] <sgclark> clivejo: plasma-framework is still busted? 
[12:48]  * sgclark is having some terrible luck
 I think is a dependency issue
 See conversation sbove
[13:22] <clivejo> sgclark: https://paste.kde.org/p8j7skiyx
[13:22] <clivejo> kpackage seems to be pulling in libstrigiqtdbusclient-dev
[13:25] <bshah> o_O
[13:25] <bshah> why
[13:26] <clivejo> !info libkf5coreaddons-bin-dev
[13:27]  * bshah looks at doc
[13:27] <bshah> s/doc/packaging
[13:28] <clivejo> sgclark bshah: https://paste.kde.org/peecaiu60
[13:29] <clivejo> where is libstrigiqtdbusclient-dev coming from?
[13:29] <bshah> still strigi is something unrelated
[13:29] <bshah> what if you do apt-get -f install first?
[13:31] <clivejo> oh so  libstrigiqtdbusclient-dev is a yakkety upgrade issue
[13:31] <clivejo> apt-get -f install is giving me
[13:31] <clivejo> Errors were encountered while processing:
[13:31] <clivejo>  /var/cache/apt/archives/libstrigiqtdbusclient0_0.7.8-2.1build1_amd64.deb
[13:31] <clivejo> E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
[13:33] <clivejo> bshah: https://launchpadlibrarian.net/257997911/buildlog_ubuntu-yakkety-amd64.kdeplasma-addons_4%3A5.6.3-0ubuntu1~ubuntu16.10~ppa4_BUILDING.txt.gz
[13:33] <clivejo> seems to all point back to plasma-framework-dev
[13:35] <clivejo> on that note, I better go and vvote for the next gaggle of politician to bleed the country dry
[13:45] <bshah> clivejo: error is :  trying to overwrite '/usr/share/kdevappwizard/templates/cpp-plasmoid.tar.bz2', which is also in package plasma-framework 5.21.0-0ubuntu1~ubuntu16.10~ppa2
[13:53] <sgclark> what package is that?
[13:54] <sgclark> bshah: I am working on frameworks. what package is that please?
[13:54] <bshah> plasma-framework
[13:54] <bshah> sgclark: ^
[13:55] <sgclark> ... plasma-framework is trying to overwrite itself?
[13:55] <bshah> plasma-framework-dev
[13:56] <sgclark> kapptemplate is the culprit...
[13:56] <sgclark> what version of kapptemplate do youo have?
[13:57] <sgclark> or are you trying to install rather?
[13:57] <bshah> uhm I don't really have it or trying to install.. I pointed error in https://launchpadlibrarian.net/257997911/buildlog_ubuntu-yakkety-amd64.kdeplasma-addons_4%3A5.6.3-0ubuntu1~ubuntu16.10~ppa4_BUILDING.txt.gz
[14:00] <bshah> sgclark: where is packaging now? no longer in debian git?
[14:00] <sgclark> correct we moved to launchpad
[14:01] <sgclark> I found the problem
[14:01] <bshah> any link or something?
[14:01] <sgclark> fixing
[14:01] <bshah> ok cool
[14:01] <bshah> :)
[14:52] <clivejo> bshah: https://git.launchpad.net/~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/+git/
[14:53] <clivejo> sorry thats wrong
[14:53] <clivejo> https://code.launchpad.net/~kubuntu-packagers/+git
[14:54] <clivejo> I find LP very hard to navigate
[14:56] <clivejo> sgclark: will you give me a shout when that package is fixed?
[14:56] <sgclark> could you elaborate?
[14:56] <sgclark> though I am fixing a bunch
[14:57] <clivejo> Im waiting on the fix to build plasma packages
[14:57] <sgclark> seems there has been a merge marker mess. I need to find that thing that yells at me on commit
[14:57] <sgclark> clivejo: ok I will yell when I am done
[14:57] <sgclark> should be soonish. 
[15:03] <clivejo> LOL
[15:04]  * clivejo is amazed at the levels Google goes to snoopy on people
[15:04] <clivejo> snoop
[15:13] <BluesKaj> it's all about ads on your browser 
[15:14] <clivejo> yeah
[15:15] <clivejo> I was looking at yorkshire solder pipe fitting, now Im getting ads in gmail
[15:15] <clivejo> the other day I clicked on a car insurance link and have been pestered with adverts for car insurance
[15:17] <soee_> CI work again ? :)
[15:17] <clivejo> almost
[15:17] <clivejo> Scarletts been nursing it back to health
[15:22]  * clivejo bit the bullet and upgraded the entire system to yakkety 
[15:22] <soee_> ahoneybun: rohl Shadow Of Mordor is ~ 45 GB size?
[15:23] <soee_> *rofl
[15:28] <BluesKaj> checked out LOTRO , it's also large , over 20G 
[15:57] <sgclark> clivejo: please try now. http://qa.kubuntu.co.uk/ppa-status/frameworks/build_status_5.21.0_yakkety.html about as green as I am going to get
[16:03] <soee_> sgclark: <3
[16:04] <sgclark> gosh is there a way to copy all from a ppa to another?
[16:05] <soee_> in would ask on #launchpad maybe :)
[16:07] <clivejo> dev-tools
[16:07] <clivejo> kopy
[16:08] <clivejo> kopypackages
[16:10] <clivejo> sgclark: http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-dev-tools/trunk/view/head:/bin/kopypackages
[16:10] <sgclark> ty
[16:30] <clivejo> sgclark: is plasma-frameworks fixed now?
[16:31] <clivejo> in ppa5?
[16:31] <sgclark> [08:57] <sgclark> clivejo: please try now. http://qa.kubuntu.co.uk/ppa-status/frameworks/build_status_5.21.0_yakkety.html about as green as I am going to get
[16:31] <clivejo> oups missed that
[16:31] <clivejo> copying it over to plasma PPA now
[16:32]  * clivejo twiddles fingers while LP publishes it
 👍
[16:35] <clivejo> sgclark: I think you can give kopypackage a batch file of packages to copy
[16:35] <clivejo> ie from kubuntu-automation
[16:36] <clivejo> again we need docs about all of these tools :)
[16:42] <clivejo> sgclark: did you get the icon thingie soee was talking about sorted out?
[16:43] <sgclark> I have no idea what you are talking about
[16:46] <genii> I think it's in reference to oxygen-icon-theme needing to be superceded by oxygen5-icon-theme
 One package that was held back (from frameworks)
 Yup
[16:47] <sgclark> the one you said that I need to add epoch and then yofel deleted that? nope, I have no clue what the answer is, perhaps yofel does
[16:48]  * clivejo kicks LP
[16:48] <clivejo> publish you lazy *beep*
[17:07]  * clivejo gives sgclark the thumbs up
[17:07] <clivejo> powerdevil has built :)
[17:07] <sgclark> well not quite. still need to stare blankly at oxygen-icons
[17:08] <sgclark> but not before I am done fighting with these stupid translations that hate me
[17:08] <clivejo> and plasma-desktop is still building which is a good sign!
[17:09] <clivejo> and kdeplasma-addons has completed
[17:09]  * clivejo fist punches the air
[17:10] <clivejo> oh dear
[17:10] <clivejo> failed at 97%
[17:10] <clivejo> https://launchpadlibrarian.net/258041824/buildlog_ubuntu-yakkety-amd64.plasma-desktop_4%3A5.6.3-0ubuntu1~ubuntu16.10~ppa2_BUILDING.txt.gz
[17:10] <clivejo> anyone know why?
[17:12] <sgclark> evidently it thing sqrt is no longer a part of the std library c++
[17:12] <sgclark> so did libc change?
[17:12] <sgclark> my first place to look is upstream patch maybe?
[17:13] <sgclark> or was gcc bumped?
[17:13] <sgclark> toolchain changes is usually what causes such mysteries failures
[17:13] <sgclark> mysterious
[17:13] <clivejo> Built target activityswitcherextensionplugin
[17:20] <sgclark> I don't know clivejo you might want to ask #plasma
[17:21] <sgclark> oh well I give up on these translations, they won't build for me now
[21:23] <clivejo> !info libibus-1.0-dev,
[21:51] <ahoneybun> yakkety?
[21:56] <clivejo> dev
[21:56] <clivejo> yakkety yak 16.10
[21:56] <ahoneybun> yea just surprised to see it already
[21:58] <clivejo> you can thank scarlett, shes been working on KCI
[21:58] <ahoneybun> I did
[21:58] <ahoneybun> with money
[21:58] <ahoneybun> a little but something
[22:08] <ahoneybun> mm Blocks that Matter does not like my Kubuntu
[22:08] <ahoneybun> ...
[22:10] <soee_> :)
[22:10] <soee_> i have finished Tomb Raider 100% :)
[22:14] <clivejo> is patreon the best thing to be using?
[22:15] <clivejo> 5% just to them and 4% to transact the money
[22:15] <clivejo> almost 10% gone to just to use that site :/
[22:21] <soee_> no idea
[22:22]  * soee_ is fighting with ISPConfig and letsencrypt ;?
[22:24] <soee_> ahoneybun: ping
[22:32] <sgclark> clivejo: any luck with plasma-desktop?
[22:33] <sgclark> has anyone here installed kubuntu-desktop inside an ubuntu install? success? failure?
[22:36] <clivejo> sgclark: nope
[22:36] <sgclark> did you ask plasma?
[22:36] <clivejo> yes
[22:36] <sgclark> and?
 it's synaptics it's failing on
 the touchpad kcm
 missing an include to <cmath>
 on every other platform something else that this depends on must be including it
 but something different in Ubuntu's lib doesn't
[22:37] <sgclark> ouch
[22:37] <clivejo> cant figure out how its failing on that
[22:38] <sgclark> maybe grab a apt-src synaptics packagage add the dep and rebuild and put in our ppa to test that?
[22:38] <clivejo> how do I see what version of c++ the build container is using?
[22:38] <sgclark> hmm I don't have a clue
[22:39] <sgclark> seems bizarre that this is only now happening
[22:39] <clivejo> remember Ubuntu shipped a new version of libc a week or so before release of Xenial?
[22:39] <clivejo> caused you problems with packages that built fine before
[22:39] <sgclark> how could I forget , I had to patch all that
[22:39] <clivejo> could it be related to that?
[22:39] <clivejo> I dont know enough to fix this :(
[22:40] <sgclark> oh
[22:40] <sgclark> include
[22:40] <clivejo> and plasma-desktop is the biggest component
[22:40] <sgclark> I see
[22:40] <sgclark> yeah I can't reboot lol
[22:40] <sgclark> I had the staging ppas enabled
[22:40] <clivejo> you installed it?
[22:40] <clivejo> wow you are brave!
[22:40] <sgclark> so if I reboot it will boom without plasam-desktop for sure
[22:40] <sgclark> I forgot :( no bravery here
[22:41] <clivejo> need to get it fixed then before your next reboot :P
[22:41] <clivejo> any suggestions?
[22:41] <sgclark> it does seem like we are alone in a ton of bugs because Ubuntu did something different....
[22:41] <sgclark> it is getting quite tiring
[22:42]  * clivejo nods in agreement
[22:42] <clivejo> do you know anyone who could help?
[22:42] <sgclark> I would not know how or where this <include> needs to be...
[22:42] <clivejo> maybe in ubuntu+1?
[22:42] <sgclark> try ubuntu-devel
[22:58] <clivejo> sgclark: ping
[23:02] <ahoneybun> sup soee_
[23:06] <soee_> ahoneybun: i forgot what i wanted to ask ;/
[23:06] <ahoneybun> XD
[23:06] <ahoneybun> Blocks that Matter destroyed Plasma
[23:07]  * ahoneybun downloads XCOM 
[23:08] <ahoneybun> yay 6.1 GBs
[23:08] <ahoneybun> soee_ since I have a 240 GB SSD I might want to skip Shadow of Mordor lol
[23:09] <soee_> :D
[23:09] <soee_> i have hdd for such stuff
[23:09] <ahoneybun> was it about that game?
[23:09] <ahoneybun> oh lol
[23:09] <soee_> ahoneybun: no idea what it was about :/
[23:09] <ahoneybun> I had a 1TB HDD till it was slowly dieing on me
[23:09] <ahoneybun> so got a SSD
[23:09] <ahoneybun> very happy so far
[23:09] <soee_> i have ssd for system :)
[23:10] <ahoneybun> mm I do not wish to reinstall Windows for that
[23:10] <sgclark> clivejo: pong
[23:10] <soee_> ahoneybun: why ?
[23:10] <ahoneybun> I have a 1TB with windows on it on the desktop
[23:10] <ahoneybun> the ssd would not be worth it lol
[23:11] <clivejo> sgclark: is there an easy way to create patch from an upstream commit?
[23:11] <soee_> :D
[23:11] <clivejo> I need to patch plasma-desktop with this https://quickgit.kde.org/?p=plasma-desktop.git&a=commitdiff&h=3a3bbc39d5cba8d77c89f6652c5b9c24c9980497
[23:12] <sgclark> clivejo: yes. should be able to click diff on quickgit
[23:12] <clivejo> yeah got the diff
[23:12] <clivejo> plain diff
[23:13] <sgclark> ok name it upstream_blah_blah and toss it in patches folder.. have you done a patch before?
[23:13] <sgclark> sorry if I am unclear what you are asking
[23:14] <clivejo> but theres a special debian way of doing it?
[23:14] <sgclark> dep8?
[23:15] <sgclark> dep somemthing one se
[23:15] <sgclark> I usually find another patch and copy heh
[23:15] <clivejo> yeah thats what Ive done in the past
[23:16] <sgclark> dep3
[23:16] <clivejo> but thought there was maybe a tool that converted the plain diff to debian complaint
[23:16] <sgclark> to many damn deps
[23:16] <sgclark> I think there is
[23:16] <sgclark> just no clue what it is
[23:17] <sgclark> clivejo: http://packaging.ubuntu.com/html/patches-to-packages.html example on this page
[23:38] <soee_> :<
[23:44] <sgclark> ugh someone just tracked down one of our show stopper bugs to snapd which is evidently to do with snappy :(
[23:46] <clivejo> what show stopper bug?