[00:00] I copied your FW 5.21 over into staging Plasma [00:00] and trying to build powerdevil [00:00] not surprising. [00:00] ok [00:00] oh go way ci [00:00] I hate you [00:00] are you still working on FW5.21? [00:00] well if it broken I guess I am [00:01] sgclark: can I leave it with you then? [00:02] Im basically stuck on plasma 5.6.3 until thats fixed to build the last three packages [00:02] I see. [00:03] will get to it as soon as I can [00:03] and its 1am, so I should call it a night! [00:03] yes [00:03] yes you should [00:04] eakkk, thats annoying [00:04] night night [00:04] sleep well clivejo [10:00] Are you going to build 15.12.3 kde-l10n-* packages for xenial? [10:03] Or should I just use the yakkety packages? [10:06] yofel: ^ [10:07] Kubuntu sucks!! I installed Yakkety Yak and the Plasma Staging PPA and now my computer is broken, who do I sue? [10:10] clivejo: what is broken exacyly / [10:10] everything! [10:10] it even killed my cat [10:11] oh wait, I dont own a cat [10:13] * clivejo waits impatiently on LP publisher [10:13] Also the kde-telepathy-integration-module packages are still 15.12.1 in the main repros, but 15.12.3 exist in staging ppa [10:16] And the same for cantor, libkf5sane and libkf5kface [10:39] sgclark: Regarding FW5.21 networkmanager-qt I think thats another symbols issue [10:41] actually there ar a few marked orange are sysmbols too [10:43] also, Im still getting a installation error on plasma-frameworks [10:43] Errors were encountered while processing: [10:43] /var/cache/apt/archives/plasma-framework-dev_5.21.0-0ubuntu1~ubuntu16.10~ppa2_amd64.deb [10:43] clivejo: how yo can have working desktop while not all Plasma 5.6 packages are build fine ?:) [10:43] soee: I was messing [10:43] oh you .. [10:44] do you think I would install plasma staging when I KNOW what a mess it is in?!? [10:52] is there anyone with yakkety installed who could install plasma-framework-dev from frameworks staging and see why the install is failing? [10:54] Not running Yakkety yet, but I could install a VM after work if no-one else has yet. [10:55] mamarley: no problem, just wondering why it wont install [10:55] Errors were encountered isnt very helpful [10:56] I am just about to leave for work though, so it would be quite a while. [10:56] was just on the off chance someone had it installed [10:57] Maybe if I get the download started now I can get it done before I leave. [10:57] mamarley: nah dont waste time on it [10:57] clivejo: It isn't a waste if it helps you out. [10:57] I should create a pbuild env for yakkety anyways [10:58] just taking a short cut! [11:01] * clivejo creates a pbuild env for yakkety [11:03] OK, Yakkety is installing in a VM. I need to go take a shower… [11:05] !info libstrigiqtdbusclient-dev [11:05] libstrigiqtdbusclient-dev (source: strigi): development files for libstrigiqtdbusclient. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.7.8-2.1 (yakkety), package size 4 kB, installed size 35 kB [11:06] sgclark: https://paste.kde.org/p8j7skiyx [11:10] clivejo: Bluskaj has it installed i think [11:11] soee: its ok, got an env up and running [11:11] nice :) [11:14] ok so it looks like a problem with kpackage [11:14] which is in orange and showing issues with symbols [11:16] so cant do anything until scarlett fixes those packages [11:16] * clivejo wanders off to break stuff in OSM [11:37] Hey folks [11:42] clivejo: Unpacking plasma-framework-dev (5.21.0-0ubuntu1~ubuntu16.10~ppa2) ... [11:42] dpkg: error processing archive /var/cache/apt/archives/plasma-framework-dev_5.21.0-0ubuntu1~ubuntu16.10~ppa2_amd64.deb (--unpack): [11:42] trying to overwrite '/usr/share/kdevappwizard/templates/cpp-plasmoid.tar.bz2', which is also in package plasma-framework 5.18.0-0ubuntu1 [11:42] dpkg-deb: error: subprocess paste was killed by signal (Broken pipe) [11:55] clivejo: is strigi not dead and replaced by baloo? [12:11] !strigi [12:11] Services to index files for fast searching include: Beagle (front-ends: beagle, catfish, gnome-main-menu, mozilla-beagle for !GNOME; kerry, kio-beagle for !KDE; beaglefs for !CLI) - Tracker (tracker-search-tool, libdeskbar-tracker for GNOME; tracker-utils for CLI) - Strigi (strigi-applet, strigi-client for KDE, strigi-utils for CLI) - Kat (for KDE) - Pinot (and pinot-applet for GNOME) - Doodle (for CLI) [12:12] allee, strigi is still available in the repos, it's just not installed by default anymore [12:13] BluesKaj: should'nt it be removed? There are also akonadi with qt4 remnant and baloo qt4 remnant that should go away [12:14] no point in using (CPU) time in keeping them [12:15] akonadi is still defualt , it's just more hidden now [12:16] BluesKaj: akonadi qt5 yes. libakonadi* qt4 no [12:19] allee, yeah, I'm testing 16.10, no akonadi-server ...yet [12:20] BluesKaj: found them in xenial yesterday. Still need to find my trello pw to add a card for them [12:22] , [12:22] some PIM packages are stilll not installed on 16.10, like akregator the only app from the PIM package that I ever use [12:23] but I'm a home user ,no need for a large database for email etc [12:24] mhhmm isn't everything in xenial at the beginning also in yakkety? If pkgs are working is anohter story ;-) [12:26] allee, not yet [12:26] they're listed in muon , but the dependencies aren't availabel for many packages [12:27] BluesKaj: oh, so for a yakkety VM I should use xenial iso + do-release-upgrade. [12:27] I better about the yakkety daily iso download :-( [12:27] s/about/abort/ [12:27] yeah, the daily would be good for a vm [12:44] yofel: my several attempts at rerunning the translations failed miserably with piles of http://paste.ubuntu.com/16237229/ [12:47] clivejo: plasma-framework is still busted? [12:48] * sgclark is having some terrible luck [13:10] <@Clifford>: I think is a dependency issue [13:10] <@Clifford>: See conversation sbove [13:22] sgclark: https://paste.kde.org/p8j7skiyx [13:22] kpackage seems to be pulling in libstrigiqtdbusclient-dev [13:25] o_O [13:25] why [13:26] !info libkf5coreaddons-bin-dev [13:26] libkf5coreaddons-bin-dev (source: kcoreaddons): KDE Frameworks 5 addons to QtCore - development files. In component universe, is optional. Version 5.18.0-0ubuntu1 (yakkety), package size 34 kB, installed size 108 kB [13:27] * bshah looks at doc [13:27] s/doc/packaging [13:28] sgclark bshah: https://paste.kde.org/peecaiu60 [13:29] where is libstrigiqtdbusclient-dev coming from? [13:29] still strigi is something unrelated [13:29] what if you do apt-get -f install first? [13:31] oh so libstrigiqtdbusclient-dev is a yakkety upgrade issue [13:31] apt-get -f install is giving me [13:31] Errors were encountered while processing: [13:31] /var/cache/apt/archives/libstrigiqtdbusclient0_0.7.8-2.1build1_amd64.deb [13:31] E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1) [13:33] bshah: https://launchpadlibrarian.net/257997911/buildlog_ubuntu-yakkety-amd64.kdeplasma-addons_4%3A5.6.3-0ubuntu1~ubuntu16.10~ppa4_BUILDING.txt.gz [13:33] seems to all point back to plasma-framework-dev [13:35] on that note, I better go and vvote for the next gaggle of politician to bleed the country dry [13:45] clivejo: error is : trying to overwrite '/usr/share/kdevappwizard/templates/cpp-plasmoid.tar.bz2', which is also in package plasma-framework 5.21.0-0ubuntu1~ubuntu16.10~ppa2 [13:53] what package is that? [13:54] bshah: I am working on frameworks. what package is that please? [13:54] plasma-framework [13:54] sgclark: ^ [13:55] ... plasma-framework is trying to overwrite itself? [13:55] plasma-framework-dev [13:56] kapptemplate is the culprit... [13:56] what version of kapptemplate do youo have? [13:57] or are you trying to install rather? [13:57] uhm I don't really have it or trying to install.. I pointed error in https://launchpadlibrarian.net/257997911/buildlog_ubuntu-yakkety-amd64.kdeplasma-addons_4%3A5.6.3-0ubuntu1~ubuntu16.10~ppa4_BUILDING.txt.gz [14:00] sgclark: where is packaging now? no longer in debian git? [14:00] correct we moved to launchpad [14:01] I found the problem [14:01] any link or something? [14:01] fixing [14:01] ok cool [14:01] :) [14:52] bshah: https://git.launchpad.net/~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/+git/ [14:53] sorry thats wrong [14:53] https://code.launchpad.net/~kubuntu-packagers/+git [14:54] I find LP very hard to navigate [14:56] sgclark: will you give me a shout when that package is fixed? [14:56] could you elaborate? [14:56] though I am fixing a bunch [14:57] Im waiting on the fix to build plasma packages [14:57] seems there has been a merge marker mess. I need to find that thing that yells at me on commit [14:57] clivejo: ok I will yell when I am done [14:57] should be soonish. [15:03] LOL [15:04] * clivejo is amazed at the levels Google goes to snoopy on people [15:04] snoop [15:13] it's all about ads on your browser [15:14] yeah [15:15] I was looking at yorkshire solder pipe fitting, now Im getting ads in gmail [15:15] the other day I clicked on a car insurance link and have been pestered with adverts for car insurance [15:17] CI work again ? :) [15:17] almost [15:17] Scarletts been nursing it back to health [15:22] * clivejo bit the bullet and upgraded the entire system to yakkety [15:22] ahoneybun: rohl Shadow Of Mordor is ~ 45 GB size? [15:23] *rofl [15:28] checked out LOTRO , it's also large , over 20G [15:57] clivejo: please try now. http://qa.kubuntu.co.uk/ppa-status/frameworks/build_status_5.21.0_yakkety.html about as green as I am going to get [16:03] sgclark: <3 [16:04] gosh is there a way to copy all from a ppa to another? [16:05] in would ask on #launchpad maybe :) [16:07] dev-tools [16:07] kopy [16:08] kopypackages [16:10] sgclark: http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-dev-tools/trunk/view/head:/bin/kopypackages [16:10] ty [16:30] sgclark: is plasma-frameworks fixed now? [16:31] in ppa5? [16:31] [08:57] clivejo: please try now. http://qa.kubuntu.co.uk/ppa-status/frameworks/build_status_5.21.0_yakkety.html about as green as I am going to get [16:31] oups missed that [16:31] copying it over to plasma PPA now [16:32] * clivejo twiddles fingers while LP publishes it [16:34] <@marcinsagol>: 👍 [16:35] sgclark: I think you can give kopypackage a batch file of packages to copy [16:35] ie from kubuntu-automation [16:36] again we need docs about all of these tools :) [16:42] sgclark: did you get the icon thingie soee was talking about sorted out? [16:43] I have no idea what you are talking about [16:46] I think it's in reference to oxygen-icon-theme needing to be superceded by oxygen5-icon-theme [16:46] <@marcinsagol>: One package that was held back (from frameworks) [16:46] <@marcinsagol>: Yup [16:47] the one you said that I need to add epoch and then yofel deleted that? nope, I have no clue what the answer is, perhaps yofel does [16:48] * clivejo kicks LP [16:48] publish you lazy *beep* [17:07] * clivejo gives sgclark the thumbs up [17:07] powerdevil has built :) [17:07] well not quite. still need to stare blankly at oxygen-icons [17:08] but not before I am done fighting with these stupid translations that hate me [17:08] and plasma-desktop is still building which is a good sign! [17:09] and kdeplasma-addons has completed [17:09] * clivejo fist punches the air [17:10] oh dear [17:10] failed at 97% [17:10] https://launchpadlibrarian.net/258041824/buildlog_ubuntu-yakkety-amd64.plasma-desktop_4%3A5.6.3-0ubuntu1~ubuntu16.10~ppa2_BUILDING.txt.gz [17:10] anyone know why? [17:12] evidently it thing sqrt is no longer a part of the std library c++ [17:12] so did libc change? [17:12] my first place to look is upstream patch maybe? [17:13] or was gcc bumped? [17:13] toolchain changes is usually what causes such mysteries failures [17:13] mysterious [17:13] Built target activityswitcherextensionplugin [17:20] I don't know clivejo you might want to ask #plasma [17:21] oh well I give up on these translations, they won't build for me now [21:23] !info libibus-1.0-dev, [21:23] libibus-1.0-dev (source: ibus): Intelligent Input Bus - development file. In component main, is optional. Version 1.5.11-1ubuntu2 (yakkety), package size 139 kB, installed size 2054 kB [21:51] yakkety? [21:56] dev [21:56] yakkety yak 16.10 [21:56] yea just surprised to see it already [21:58] you can thank scarlett, shes been working on KCI [21:58] I did [21:58] with money [21:58] a little but something [22:08] mm Blocks that Matter does not like my Kubuntu [22:08] ... [22:10] :) [22:10] i have finished Tomb Raider 100% :) [22:14] is patreon the best thing to be using? [22:15] 5% just to them and 4% to transact the money [22:15] almost 10% gone to just to use that site :/ [22:21] no idea [22:22] * soee_ is fighting with ISPConfig and letsencrypt ;? [22:24] ahoneybun: ping [22:32] clivejo: any luck with plasma-desktop? [22:33] has anyone here installed kubuntu-desktop inside an ubuntu install? success? failure? [22:36] sgclark: nope [22:36] did you ask plasma? [22:36] yes [22:36] and? [22:36] it's synaptics it's failing on [22:36] the touchpad kcm [22:36] missing an include to [22:36] on every other platform something else that this depends on must be including it [22:36] but something different in Ubuntu's lib doesn't [22:37] ouch [22:37] cant figure out how its failing on that [22:38] maybe grab a apt-src synaptics packagage add the dep and rebuild and put in our ppa to test that? [22:38] how do I see what version of c++ the build container is using? [22:38] hmm I don't have a clue [22:39] seems bizarre that this is only now happening [22:39] remember Ubuntu shipped a new version of libc a week or so before release of Xenial? [22:39] caused you problems with packages that built fine before [22:39] how could I forget , I had to patch all that [22:39] could it be related to that? [22:39] I dont know enough to fix this :( [22:40] oh [22:40] include [22:40] and plasma-desktop is the biggest component [22:40] I see [22:40] yeah I can't reboot lol [22:40] I had the staging ppas enabled [22:40] you installed it? [22:40] wow you are brave! [22:40] so if I reboot it will boom without plasam-desktop for sure [22:40] I forgot :( no bravery here [22:41] need to get it fixed then before your next reboot :P [22:41] any suggestions? [22:41] it does seem like we are alone in a ton of bugs because Ubuntu did something different.... [22:41] it is getting quite tiring [22:42] * clivejo nods in agreement [22:42] do you know anyone who could help? [22:42] I would not know how or where this needs to be... [22:42] maybe in ubuntu+1? [22:42] try ubuntu-devel [22:58] sgclark: ping [23:02] sup soee_ [23:06] ahoneybun: i forgot what i wanted to ask ;/ [23:06] XD [23:06] Blocks that Matter destroyed Plasma [23:07] * ahoneybun downloads XCOM [23:08] yay 6.1 GBs [23:08] soee_ since I have a 240 GB SSD I might want to skip Shadow of Mordor lol [23:09] :D [23:09] i have hdd for such stuff [23:09] was it about that game? [23:09] oh lol [23:09] ahoneybun: no idea what it was about :/ [23:09] I had a 1TB HDD till it was slowly dieing on me [23:09] so got a SSD [23:09] very happy so far [23:09] i have ssd for system :) [23:10] mm I do not wish to reinstall Windows for that [23:10] clivejo: pong [23:10] ahoneybun: why ? [23:10] I have a 1TB with windows on it on the desktop [23:10] the ssd would not be worth it lol [23:11] sgclark: is there an easy way to create patch from an upstream commit? [23:11] :D [23:11] I need to patch plasma-desktop with this https://quickgit.kde.org/?p=plasma-desktop.git&a=commitdiff&h=3a3bbc39d5cba8d77c89f6652c5b9c24c9980497 [23:12] clivejo: yes. should be able to click diff on quickgit [23:12] yeah got the diff [23:12] plain diff [23:13] ok name it upstream_blah_blah and toss it in patches folder.. have you done a patch before? [23:13] sorry if I am unclear what you are asking [23:14] but theres a special debian way of doing it? [23:14] dep8? [23:15] dep somemthing one se [23:15] I usually find another patch and copy heh [23:15] yeah thats what Ive done in the past [23:16] dep3 [23:16] but thought there was maybe a tool that converted the plain diff to debian complaint [23:16] to many damn deps [23:16] I think there is [23:16] just no clue what it is [23:17] clivejo: http://packaging.ubuntu.com/html/patches-to-packages.html example on this page [23:38] :< [23:44] ugh someone just tracked down one of our show stopper bugs to snapd which is evidently to do with snappy :( [23:46] what show stopper bug?