[00:00] <wxl> enon_: that's a good thing to use if you're testing, but not a good thing to run on. i would not count on it working consistently. it's completely unsupported.
[00:00] <enon_> I was willing to try anything even bleeding on the edge
[00:01] <wxl> enon_: you nevber did answer my question
[00:01] <n-iCe> wxl: I have a laptop using i3 M350, but I'm wondering if I'm gonna notice real difference with a i5 2520m
[00:01] <wxl> n-iCe: aw yeah i guess i'm not the right person to ask about specifics on that topic
[00:01] <n-iCe> thanks
[00:04] <enon_> which question, about reinstalling alsa - I´ll drop the ppa and try reinstalling it again
[00:05] <wxl> oh i didn't mean reinstalling
[00:05] <wxl> sorry about that
[00:05] <wxl> i meant reloading the server
[00:08] <enon_> I think I understand but you had better be more specific
[00:09] <wxl> essentially stopping alsa and then starting it again, forcing it to re-read its configuration files in the process
[00:09] <enon_> as with task manger?
[00:11] <enon_> assume no
[00:14] <enon_> in task manger Im not showing any asla task only pulse audio
[00:14] <wxl> sudo alsa reload
[00:14] <wxl> oh no not pulseaudio aaaaaaaagh
[00:14] <wxl> delete the heck out of that crap </my opinion, but others will disagree>
[00:15] <enon_> rm -rf *.* (just kidding)
[00:15] <enon_> I forgot sudo
[00:18] <enon_> urrrgh pulsaudio keeps respawning
[00:19] <wxl> that's what it does
[00:20] <enon_> well I restarted alsa with no errors
[00:21] <wxl> with pa in the picture, that could be a potential source of problems
[00:21] <wxl> especially if you didn't have it before
[00:22] <enon_> well the sound was working in 14.04 as installed aplay - l still shows no devices
[00:23] <wxl> wait, it DID work in 14.04 and now doesn't? what changed?
[00:24] <enon_> dist upgrading to 15.10 on th way to 16.04 is all I know for sure
[00:25] <wxl> might want to grep the dpkg logs in /var/log to see if pulseaudio maybe got added?
[00:26] <enon_> I lost sound after 15.10
[00:29] <enon_> maybe in /var/logs/dist-upgrade/ would be better?
[00:41] <enon_> sudo grep -ri ´pulseaudio´shows nothing in /var/log
[00:45] <enon_> I removed pulse audio and didn break the rest of the system
[00:49] <enon_> I stopped pulse from running it did not respawn
[00:50] <enon_> I restarted alsa all the modules loaded but aplay -l still shows no devices
[00:51] <enon_> I am back to finding where to put module.config info at I think
[00:54] <enon_> when I restarted alsa I did get a slight pop both times
[00:55] <enon_> I got other things to do tonight so I come back tommorrow
[03:22] <n-iCe> hello
[03:22] <n-iCe> &join #slimusers
[03:22] <n-iCe> skisorry
[03:22] <n-iCe> guys I just bought a new laptop
[03:25] <n-iCe> should I always install additional drivers?
[03:52] <dg87> the lubuntu panel seriously still not have group windows yet?
[03:53] <dg87> nvm, its just not set by default like all the other distros and OSes have
[04:40] <miked1984> hello'
[06:24] <n-iCe> hi
[08:32] <aladiah> after a somewhere 15.10 updates, a packard bell laptop keyboard and mouse dont work anymore! Even if start a live usb on it . . no way keyboard and moouse work, e but it does on Toshiba Sattellite. What can i do ?
[08:46] <aladiah> IT have dualboot and keyboeard and mouse work perfectly on windows . .
[15:50] <n-iCe> hi
[18:03] <nomoney4me_> hi guys
[18:03] <wxl> what up nomoney4me_
[18:05] <n-iCe> ea ea
[18:07] <nomoney4me_> i got a broadcom problem :(
[18:08] <n-iCe> install additional drivers
[18:08] <nomoney4me_> tried both b43 and bcmwl and nothing works :(
[18:10] <nomoney4me_> can anyone look at this result and help me out? http://hastebin.com/vatanekuci.vhdl
[18:12] <wxl> yay hastebin. we use this at work.
[18:12] <wxl> unfortunately hastebin.com for me isn't resolvingf or some point
[18:12] <wxl> s/point/reason/
[18:13] <nomoney4me_> i'll put it on pastebin then
[18:20] <nomoney4me_> here's the pastebin: http://pastebin.com/b0yQHceM
[18:22] <wxl> !b43
[18:23] <nomoney4me_> wxl, yup i've read them. I've tried both the STA and the B43
[18:23] <wxl> nomoney4me_: from what i read there with a 4321, you MUST use the closed source broadcom driver
[18:24] <nomoney4me_> yup.  and I did use the STA.  apparently with the sta, i get "scan_results error (-22)" which leads me to an old post on the forum that suggests using the b43....
[18:24] <wxl> but you didn't try bcmwl-kernel-source?
[18:24] <nomoney4me_> see where i'm going with this? :P
[18:25] <nomoney4me_> yup, i tried bcmwl-kernel-source first.  then i got this error.  so i removed it and tried b43
[18:26] <wxl> ok so then you didn't try the broadcom-sta package
[18:27] <wxl> worst case scenario you can try ndiswrapper
[18:27] <wxl> assuming at some point there was windows support for this chip
[18:28] <nomoney4me_> the weird thing is, i'm getting contradictory information: https://wiki.debian.org/wl#Installation
[18:28] <nomoney4me_> according to this, The BCM4311, BCM4312, BCM4321, BCM4322 and BCM4331 chips are alternatively supported by the open source b43 driver.
[18:28] <wxl> you can see here that b43 itself only partially supports 14e4:4328 https://wireless.wiki.kernel.org/en/users/Drivers/b43
[18:29] <wxl> according to that wl is an acceptable alternative
[18:29] <nomoney4me_> i saw that too.  so the broadcom-sta is a different package from the bcmwl-kernel-source?
[18:29] <wxl> yep
[18:29] <wxl> if you had read the page, you would have noticed that :)
[18:30] <nomoney4me_> well i just thought they were the same, just different name for the package
[18:30] <nomoney4me_> :P
[18:30] <wxl> well it says there are two choices
[18:30] <wxl> assumedly that means they're distinct
[18:30] <wxl> and it does explain one is for an earlier version and one for a later version, so
[18:31] <administrador> Hi. Has anyone succesfully instaled AMD's GPUPRO Beta drivers ? i can only get  so far: http://pastebin.com/xeDw3W7L Any idea on how to solve this? I am using Lubuntu 14.04 64bits
[18:31] <nomoney4me_> i interpreted it as same package, 1 for newer ubuntu version, the other for the older ubuntu version
[18:31] <wxl> nomoney4me_: no, it's a newer version of the driver
[18:31] <wxl> administrador: you might want to try with #ubuntu as it's not a lubuntu specific issue
[18:32] <nomoney4me_> now i know :P i'll try that broadcom-sta and see what happen
[18:32] <wxl> ^^ that might be good advice in general for you, too, nomoney4me_
[18:32] <administrador> k
[18:32] <wxl> but we (as lubuntu) have had a lot of experience with broadcom drivers
[18:33] <nomoney4me_> i was afraid that there are packages in ubuntu that already solves this problem.
[18:33] <wxl> administrador: you might try removing ocl-icd-libopencl1
[18:33] <wxl> !info ocl-icd-libopencl1
[18:34] <wxl> i'm not sure why you need that, but that's what's complaining
[18:34] <wxl> you may be able to reinstall it afterwards
[18:38] <nomoney4me_> btw, wxl, do you know of an alternative to uxterm? does lubuntu come with the normal terminal?
[18:40] <nomoney4me_> nvm, scratch that, i found the lxterminal :)
[18:43] <administrador> wxl, nah, it did't worked either... It stops in the same spot: /var/opt/amdgpu-pro/./amdgpu-pro-opencl-icd_16.15.2-277429_amd64.deb
[18:48] <wxl> administrador: then i would suggest seeking support from the developers of amdgpu-pro-install
[18:49] <wxl> nomoney4me_: fwiw i prefer urxvt but yes lxterminal works fine enough :)
[19:01] <nomoney4me_> same error :( scan_results error.
[21:27] <nomoney4me_> sigh, this broadcom driver is so annoying
[21:31] <lynorian> nomoney4me_, I know :(
[21:37] <lynorian> nomoney4me_, I just joined so can you help me know what you are trying to do
[21:39] <nomoney4me_> I figured out the drivers for this bcm4321
[21:40] <nomoney4me_> But I got this problem: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1783272  and the solution does not work in my case.
[21:41] <nomoney4me_> it seems that the blacklist worked but adding the modprobe in the rc.local still does not solve the fact that I still cannot scan unless I suspend/resume the machine.
[21:41] <nomoney4me_> manually resetting the wl through modprobe does not solve the problem.
[21:43] <stairsandflowers> hello! i hope this is not too stupid to ask.  i'm trying to set my keyboard to latin american spanish. the key that allows typing accented vowels is not working since the upgrade to 16.04. i've set the keyboard to latin american spanish, however there is no "use dead keys" option.
[21:44] <lynorian> I think that is due to the way rc.local works in that  it only does that when you log in Have you tried resetting wl without the blacklist?
[21:45] <nomoney4me_> lynorian: yes, that was the first thing i did before going through the web looking for answers.
[21:45] <lynorian> nomoney4me_, have you tried just simply restarting network manager?
[21:46] <nomoney4me_> lynorian: just did.  same error in dmesg: wlan1 Scan_results error (-22)
[21:48] <lynorian> nomoney4me_, are you on 14.04?
[21:48] <nomoney4me_> lynorian: yes I am.
[21:51] <lynorian> newer kernels might support b43 but not sure how well if you are still on 14.04 3.13 default
[21:51] <lynorian> or if you have another way to connect you might even try 16.04 the next lts
[21:51] <lynorian> but upgrading yet is not recommended
[21:52] <lynorian> there was something for b43 I noticed on scan problms fixed in https://wireless.wiki.kernel.org/en/users/Drivers/b43 kernels 3.14 and later
[21:53] <nomoney4me_> lynorian: hmm, i will try 16.04
[21:54] <nomoney4me_> or should i stick with 15.10 since 16.04 is still a bit new?
[21:54] <lynorian> depends 16.04 is lts but and 15.10 would have to upgrade soon
[21:54] <lynorian> I say maybe try live session and read the release notes
[21:55] <nomoney4me_> i originally had 16.04 on the start of this journey
[21:56] <nomoney4me_> i switched to 14.04 thinking that the driver would be more supported since it's been out for quite awhile
[21:56] <nomoney4me_> i learned a few things along the way that could possibly fix this, maybe the methods would be applicable to 16.04.  I will try that
[22:07] <nomoney4me_> lynorian: i just realized that link was for b43.  I was using the bcmwl-kernel-source though.
[22:09] <lynorian> I think it might be a bit of trial and error to find the best driver and kernel version my bcm 4322 was not supported by bcmwl-kernel-source at first
[22:55] <nomoney4me_> anyone know what "partially" means on this page? https://wireless.wiki.kernel.org/en/users/Drivers/b43#known_problems_limitations