[05:14] <mappps> hi
[05:14] <zmoylan-pi> o/
[05:33] <mapps> ;]
[08:15] <davmor2> Morning all
[08:19] <brobostigon> morning boys and girls.
[08:30] <foobarry> i have this song in my head today
[08:30] <foobarry> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lp2qcCrdBLA
[08:35] <foobarry> is there a way to turn off nicklist in irssi for certain channels? that would be great. big channels i don't care, but < 10 ppl i do need to see the nicks
[09:06] <JamesTait> Good morning all!  Happy Thursday, and happy World Password Day! (passwordday.org) 😃 🔑 🔒
[09:07] <zmoylan-pi> as long as no one else uses password password i'll be grand...
[09:11] <diplo> I use p@ssword1234 - 12 characters and numbers!!!1=111~!
[09:12] <JamesTait> At parents' evening a few weeks ago, one of the teachers was wanting to get away and had been entrusted with another teacher's account to close off some report.  So he then passed on the username and password to the teacher I was with.
[09:12] <JamesTait> "His password is password...."
[09:14] <diplo> Did you have a word ?
[09:15] <davmor2> JamesTait: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tRFHXMQP-QU pretty good password right there
[09:15] <diplo> My girlfriend is ateacher, they have ipads ( quite a lot of them ) there account password is a townname and the year.... this is devices with kids info on it! I couldn't believe it really, they seem so lax about it
[09:15] <JamesTait> I held my tongue, because the words that wanted to come out of my mouth would likely have had me escorted off the premises.
[09:16] <diplo> I have thought about looking into what they should have in place ( even though my kids don't go to this school ) mine might be just as bad
[09:17] <bashrc> given the choice people will choose bad passwords, and so this is why for my own projects I generate random passwords and then get users to write them down
[09:17] <JamesTait> I didn't manage to stifle the snort of disbelief, though, which got me a raised eyebrow.
[09:19] <popey> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bLE7zsJk4AI is the best password related video
[09:22] <diplo> heh that is good :P
[09:29] <foobarry> anyone remember the bladerunner spoof where he tries to load windows?
[09:31] <zmoylan-pi> would explain why all the robots were homocidal... :-P
[09:44] <diplo> Nope, I may google that
[09:46] <foobarry> i can't find it :( my google fu aint working
[09:47] <zmoylan-pi> this? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0s2sTif3yS4
[09:49] <foobarry> its a spoof of this scene https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qHepKd38pr0
[09:50] <foobarry> he's in his dark house trying to boot windows on that thing and getting BSOD
[10:13] <davmor2> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PD-MdiUm1_Y song stuck in my head today :)
[11:33] <daftykins> hrmm here's that track Led Zep are being dragged through the courts accused of pilfering for 'Stairway' : https://youtu.be/xd8AVbwB_6E?t=40
[11:36] <foobarry> this predates stiairway?
[11:36] <SuperMatt> daftykins: hasn't thing been going on for years?
[11:37] <daftykins> foobarry: allegedly
[11:38] <daftykins> ah yes allegedly 50 years running, now
[11:39] <SuperMatt> it's one of those legal battles which will keep going on until one side runs out of money
[11:39] <foobarry> stoopid lawyers
[11:39] <SuperMatt> and I can guarantee it won't be Led Zepp
[11:40] <zmoylan-pi> non stupid lawyers, lawyers putting their kids through lawyer school on one job
[11:40] <daftykins> i heard it on the radio and meant to read up on it
[11:41] <daftykins> sounds like a lot of Led Zep's tracks have attracted such attention over the years o0
[11:44] <SuperMatt> problem is, there's no such thing as a song that cannot have some claim put on it
[11:45] <SuperMatt> A band I love, Dream Theater, even name sections of their songs after the tunes that inspired them
[11:45] <daftykins> mmm, all a bit messy - i'd link to the article i found on bloomberg but it has a particularly inappropriate header image that you'd not want to open at work
[11:45] <SuperMatt> they're even on video saying "and this is the inspector gadget section"
[11:45] <zmoylan-pi> well some tunes predate copyright and they are public domain. still get illegal claims on them that have to be beaten off
[11:48] <daftykins> http://www.bloomberg.com/features/2016-led-zeppelin-trial/img/filing-chart.jpg
[11:48] <daftykins> that's amusing
[11:50] <daftykins> zmoylan-pi: my VPN tweaking mission continues :) i have to ride back and remove a ; i added to the config breaking things today :|
[11:51] <daftykins> i've been riding there, setting things up, then riding to my friends art gallery nearby to use their connection for testing before riding home :D
[11:51] <popey> can you not test over 3g?
[11:51] <zmoylan-pi> well ride safe...
[11:51] <daftykins> popey: weirdly where my uncle lives, i get a really shoddy mobile data connection
[11:52] <daftykins> but as the intended uses are services unavailable from my phone, it needs a proper test over broadband really
[11:52] <popey> bummer
[11:52] <daftykins> for example, trying to hit google with a search of "my ip" to see the IP change, was taking north of 40 seconds to load
[11:53] <daftykins> to be honest i think i need to tell him that his 20/1 ADSL service is far too inadequate, needs to move up to the 40/5 VDSL like i'm on
[11:53] <daftykins> openVPN running via UDP was just not even cutting it until i switched it to TCP
[12:00] <daftykins> and then it had upwards of 1.5 seconds of latency routing just a ping O_O
[12:05] <daftykins> ah well, we wouldn't want it to be easy now, would we? :)
[12:32] <daftykins> https://blog.vellumatlanta.com/2016/05/04/apple-stole-my-music-no-seriously/
[12:32]  * daftykins chuckles
[12:32] <SuperMatt> yeah, I looked at a bit of that
[12:32] <SuperMatt> completely the wrong thing for apple to do
[12:35] <daftykins> i raised an eyebrow when a client had sync'd a new iPod to her desktop iMac, but on pulling it out down in Spain to play some music discovered it was empty
[12:35] <daftykins> but Apple things just work! ;)
[12:39] <diddledan> https://twitter.com/rit/status/549814266094551040
[12:40] <diddledan> daftykins: idevices do just work. they just don’t work the way you expect.
[12:40] <daftykins> :D
[13:30] <foobarry> anyone on libreoffice5 able to do a test for me?
[13:31] <SuperMatt> sure
[13:31] <foobarry> ta
[13:31] <SuperMatt> 5.1.2.2
[13:31] <foobarry> document with text in it. unfocus selection by clikcing browser or something else. click back on LO5 doc and it selects a block of text
[13:33] <SuperMatt> nope, nothing of the sort happening for me
[13:34] <foobarry> thanks
[13:34] <foobarry> 5.1.1.2
[13:35] <SuperMatt> what os are you running? I can quickly spin up a vm
[13:35] <foobarry> its ok, i will ask on elementary #channel
[13:35] <SuperMatt> cool cool
[14:33] <SuperMatt> right, who in here was keeping track of the number of jobs I've had? MooDoo?
[14:33] <DJones> SuperMatt: Off the top of my head, 356
[14:33] <SuperMatt> one of those numbers is correct, and another will be correct as of June 6th
[14:34] <DJones> 5 & 6 then I guess
[14:34] <SuperMatt> correct!
[14:34]  * DJones stops hacking SuperMatt's computer
[14:36] <daftykins> crikey!
[14:36] <daftykins> hopefully this was your choice, SuperMatt!
[14:37] <SuperMatt> yup
[14:39] <DJones> Its always seemed like that for the people I speak to IRL that work in IT, they change jobs fairly regularly asprojects finish or change
[14:39] <SuperMatt> that's how it goes
[14:40] <SuperMatt> IT skills are always in demand, and because you learn so much on one job, it's easy to apply that to the next and get paid more for it
[14:40] <DJones> Yep, although they're framed as permanent positions, in reality, they're project jobs
[14:40] <SuperMatt> The next one feels like it could well be a little more permanent for me
[14:40] <DJones> Good luck with it anywy
[14:40] <SuperMatt> thanks
[14:41] <daftykins> indeed, gl!
[14:44] <davmor2> SuperMatt: pfff whippersnapper multiply it by 5 or 6 and you get closer to mine ;)  But then I was in manual jobs for a long long time.
[14:46] <SuperMatt> I'm 31, that's an average of a new job every two years out of Uni... actually, that's not too bad
[14:55] <foobarry> SuperMatt: you're leaving rackspace?
[14:55] <foobarry> i did about 5 jobs by age 30. then 2 jobs since then.
[14:58] <SuperMatt> foobarry: I left there 6 months ago
[14:58] <SuperMatt> I'm leaving this one now too
[14:58] <foobarry> :o
[14:58] <foobarry> why did you leave rs?
[14:58] <SuperMatt> because management kept adding too much work without adding staff
[14:59] <foobarry> i had an email from their recruiter the other day
[14:59] <foobarry> and your next job sucked?
[15:00] <davmor2> SuperMatt: I was a temp driving for years so I held 30-40 positions there, prior to that I did all sorts and often got made redundant last in first out policies and all that, and then finally I had 6 long term positions Driving for companies rather than temping and then canonical :)
[15:03] <SuperMatt> foobarry: not that it sucked, I haven't really been engaged in it, and the next job is pretty damn difficult to refuse
[15:03] <foobarry> google?
[15:03] <foobarry> new google
[15:03] <foobarry> uber driver?
[15:03] <foobarry> facebook?
[15:04] <foobarry> canonononononical?
[15:04] <SuperMatt> Sky, actually
[15:04] <foobarry> how's the journey?
[15:04] <foobarry> aren't they far away?
[15:04] <SuperMatt> An hour, so not too bad
[15:05] <foobarry> ok. rs was in hayes though, which is a show stopper for most ppl
[15:05] <foobarry> i know a guy at sky, his journey is 2hrs each way
[15:06] <SuperMatt> yeah, it can be mental, but I can scoot round the side of london
[16:01] <diddledan> https://twitter.com/islamscifi/status/727905700861587456
[16:01] <diddledan> I like that
[16:27] <daftykins> ;)
[20:02] <diddledan> oh, it’s electionday
[20:03] <diddledan> oops
[20:12] <zmoylan-pi> vote early, vote often :-)
[20:12] <zmoylan-pi> or vote late and tamper with the voting boxes later... :-P
[20:13] <diddledan> lmao
[20:13] <daftykins> i wondered why that curtain had a raspy-pi hanging from it, it's making sure the coast is clear whilst zmoylan-pi fiddles the numbers!
[20:14]  * diddledan fiddles with zmoylan-pi’s numbers.. oh myy
[20:15] <zmoylan-pi> my number is pi... all the way down...
[20:15]  * diddledan writes that down
[20:15] <zmoylan-pi> fiddle with that and you break the universe
[20:15] <diddledan> jeez, how long is this thing?!
[20:16] <zmoylan-pi> there was an interesting story on how many digits nasa uses of pi for calculating orbits recently
[20:17] <diddledan> tv series to watch: quantico.
[20:17] <diddledan> zmoylan-pi: they use all of them, no?
[20:17] <zmoylan-pi> you'd think nasa would be sticklers for accuracy and so use a lot but nope... and the margin of error even with those few is tiny in a space the size of a solar system iirc
[20:18] <daftykins> lemme catculate that - https://i.imgur.com/uwmIj3I.gifv
[20:18] <diddledan> wow, that cat is a genius?!
[20:18] <daftykins> ikr!
[20:18] <diddledan> he’s like newton reincarnated!
[20:19] <daftykins> mewton
[20:19] <daftykins> ;D
[20:20] <zmoylan-pi> well newton invented the cat flap so he prepared for his comeback :-)
[20:20] <diddledan> lol
[20:29] <zmoylan-pi> probably the biggest time saving device invented ever :-)