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| === ChanServ changed the topic of #ubuntu-uos-appdev to: Track: App & Scope Development | Scopes roundtable and API roadmap | Url: http://summit.ubuntu.com/uos-1605/meeting/22662/whats-new-in-scopes/ | ||
| davidcalle | Hangout link: https://plus.google.com/hangouts/_/hoaevent/AP36tYcJityc4DxCEbCGQyGi32VEO9Ypa9EAYYf5WkEbAuYQo2RaeQ | 14:50 |
| davidcalle | pstolowski: marcustomlinson ^ | 14:50 |
| pstolowski | a demo scope utlizing filters I showed on my slides: lp:~stolowski/+junk/scope-filters2 | 15:29 |
| marcustomlinson | at the bottom of: https://developer.ubuntu.com/api/scopes/cpp/sdk-15.04.1/previewwidgets/ | 15:45 |
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| === ChanServ changed the topic of #ubuntu-uos-appdev to: Track: App & Scope Development | Dekko planning session | Url: http://summit.ubuntu.com/uos-1605/meeting/22671/dekko-planning-session/ | ||
| popey | DanChapman: you having connection issues? | 17:58 |
| popey | We can do this via irc if so. | 17:58 |
| popey | Seems DanChapman is having cloudy internet, in the not good way | 18:00 |
| DanChapman | yeah hangouts is running really slow and just going black | 18:00 |
| popey | hah :) | 18:00 |
| popey | Okay, lets do irc then :) | 18:00 |
| DanChapman | Ok then let's go for irc then :-( | 18:01 |
| popey | Ok, lets start then. So first off shall we talk about the upcoming release.. | 18:02 |
| popey | https://launchpad.net/dekko/+milestones milestones are here | 18:02 |
| popey | hmm, those don't look right :) | 18:02 |
| DanChapman | Yep :-) so the next milestone is the 1.0-beta which is a big one. | 18:03 |
| popey | Ok, Worth setting a date as a target? | 18:04 |
| DanChapman | And will be shipping a completely new backend including POP3 support which is super cool. | 18:04 |
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| popey | Ooh! | 18:04 |
| DanChapman | Probably a good idea. But it's hard to estimate a rough date at the current state | 18:04 |
| popey | Ok. | 18:05 |
| DanChapman | the bug list to clear to get that out is still quite large. New contributors welcomed for anyone reading :-D | 18:05 |
| popey | Speaking of bugs. | 18:05 |
| popey | https://bugs.launchpad.net/dekko is the bug list. | 18:06 |
| popey | https://bugs.launchpad.net/dekko/+bugs?orderby=-heat&start=0 sorted by heat. | 18:06 |
| popey | I notice from the tags that we don't have any tagged bitesized. | 18:07 |
| popey | I guess that's because dekko is complex code base and finding bitesize ones is hard? | 18:07 |
| popey | Or just that they all got done when we did the Google Summer Of Code thing eaerlier in the year? ;) | 18:07 |
| LarreaMikel | I'm in another session, but I would like to ask a question here... may I? | 18:08 |
| popey | sure thing | 18:09 |
| LarreaMikel | QUESTION:Is Dekko planning to implement PGP in the near future? | 18:09 |
| LarreaMikel | Thanks ;) | 18:09 |
| DanChapman | Yeah the old code base was rather complex, and you usually had to dig into c++. I've made an effort with the rewrite to provide a nice qml client api that new contributors would be able to get up to speed pretty quickly and do pretty much all message related tasks without touching c++ so that should help figure out bitesize stuff going forward | 18:10 |
| popey | https://bugs.launchpad.net/dekko/+bug/1417587 that would be this bug LarreaMikel | 18:10 |
| LarreaMikel | thank you popey ;) | 18:10 |
| popey | DanChapman: awesome. | 18:10 |
| DanChapman | LarreaMikel, yes it's very likely to happen some point shortly after 1.0 | 18:10 |
| popey | The PGP question is quite popular among our user base | 18:10 |
| LarreaMikel | great! | 18:11 |
| LarreaMikel | I'll read you later! | 18:11 |
| popey | ok | 18:12 |
| popey | DanChapman: the other question which gets asked quite a lot is one of notifications 😖 | 18:12 |
| mhall119 | and desktop packages, I still want that | 18:12 |
| mhall119 | the one I have uses all my CPU | 18:12 |
| popey | Desktop package as in .deb or .snap? | 18:14 |
| DanChapman | Lol it's that word again. So notifications is a complex issue. I see penk has made a start on getting my email plugin into the accounts-plugins https://code.launchpad.net/~penk/account-plugins/add-accounts-plugin-e-mail which is cool. But that will now need to be extended to handle pop3 as well. We also need someone to pick up the polld plugin work | 18:15 |
| DanChapman | mhall119, as soon as things become usable again I will send you a deb to try :-D. | 18:16 |
| popey | ok, have poked pat asking if we can get some more time from Penk | 18:16 |
| popey | Nobody has looked at making a snap yet have they? | 18:17 |
| popey | Thinking that might be a nice task for somoene to take on, crafting a sane snapcraft.yaml | 18:17 |
| DanChapman | I looked... eyes glazed other .... closed tab | 18:17 |
| popey | now launchpad can spit out snaps | 18:17 |
| popey | Hah, wise ã‹› | 18:17 |
| DanChapman | s/other/over | 18:17 |
| popey | I can take a look at that. | 18:17 |
| popey | I've made a few snaps now, it's quite fun | 18:18 |
| DanChapman | Sounds good :-) | 18:18 |
| popey | for some value of "fun" | 18:18 |
| popey | Okay. I have taken a to-do to have a go at that. | 18:18 |
| mhall119 | popey: either format | 18:19 |
| popey | Actually could be quite an interesting one to do. | 18:19 |
| mhall119 | DanChapman: awesome, thanks! | 18:19 |
| DanChapman | also the polld plugin is imap only so that would also need extending to pop3. otherwise the notifications issue will remain. I'll add that to the bug report | 18:20 |
| popey | Good call. | 18:20 |
| DanChapman | Is there anyone we can poke about getting help with the polld plugins. Or I can make a start after the next release if we can't | 18:22 |
| popey | I'll speak to pat and see if we can get some help | 18:22 |
| * popey adds a to-do | 18:23 | |
| * DanChapman was going to show a demo of the new Dekko today. :-( | 18:23 | |
| popey | aw | 18:23 |
| DanChapman | Cheers. One thing we have never really talked about is handling calendar invites. Is there some way currently i can share them with calendar app? | 18:24 |
| popey | Hm. | 18:25 |
| popey | We did discuss this a while back I think, using calendar:// urls? | 18:25 |
| popey | With Ted I think. | 18:25 |
| DanChapman | One of the new header section filters can show you all calendar invites so it might be nice to be able to actually do something with them. | 18:25 |
| popey | with the details of the event encoded in the url. | 18:25 |
| DanChapman | Hmm did we? I don';t recall that one :-/ | 18:25 |
| popey | heh | 18:26 |
| popey | maybe it was just me, sorry. | 18:26 |
| popey | or maybe I'm dreaming, all possible | 18:26 |
| popey | So this is where you get a calendar invite via email, right | 18:27 |
| popey | And you want to do what with it? Send it to calendar? Or do you want to interrogate the calendar to see if we're attending? | 18:27 |
| popey | I think for the latter, we could possibly get access to calendar with the same apparmor profile that calendar itself uses | 18:28 |
| popey | Given dekko is a blessed app, I think this is reasonable, right? | 18:28 |
| DanChapman | Yes receive via email and you want to put the event in your calendar. | 18:29 |
| popey | So do you want to just read the calendar? | 18:30 |
| DanChapman | Like it would be nice to just pass calendar/eds/whatever the .ics attachment and let the receiving app do what it wants with it rather than try and add calendar functionality to into dekko | 18:30 |
| popey | or do you want to inject into it too? | 18:30 |
| popey | right, yes | 18:30 |
| DanChapman | Is it worth showing in Dekko (an icon or something?) that the event was already added to your calendar? | 18:31 |
| popey | Well, I think the expectation (set by gmail / outlook) is that you'd get that, yes | 18:32 |
| popey | if you get email notitifications from gmail saying "Meeting in 10 mins", doesn't it show in the mail that you're a "yes" attending? | 18:32 |
| popey | But you're mostly talking about throwing the ics at calendar app | 18:33 |
| popey | do we have a bug for that already? If so we can add calendar and talk to Bill / Renato about that | 18:33 |
| DanChapman | Yeah i think it does show you that in gmail notifications. Yeah i would ike to just pass the ics off. Would be nice to be able to show you've already done it as well. Let me see if there is a bug, i don't think there is.... | 18:35 |
| DanChapman | Nope can't find one. I'll do that after this session then and add calendar to it. | 18:36 |
| popey | sweet | 18:36 |
| popey | I'll speak to the guys | 18:36 |
| * popey adds a to-do | 18:36 | |
| DanChapman | I'm super excited about releasing the unified inbox and smart folder features in the next update :-) They are working so nice! | 18:38 |
| popey | \o/ | 18:38 |
| popey | Can't wait. | 18:38 |
| popey | I'll test that on my laptop when I build a snap of it ã‹› | 18:39 |
| DanChapman | So a common thing I see in client's nowadays is a "snooze" feature. Like does anyone actually use that? And is it something Dekko should look into doing? | 18:40 |
| popey | What does that even do? | 18:41 |
| DanChapman | It hides the message until a certain time and then it "re-appears". | 18:42 |
| DanChapman | I personally don't get the point | 18:42 |
| popey | Blimey, how very 21st century | 18:42 |
| popey | Yeah, I can see why people do it, "Procrastinate" button ã‹› | 18:42 |
| DanChapman | hah! :-p | 18:43 |
| DanChapman | I'll stick that on the "maybe one day" list then. | 18:44 |
| popey | yeah, wishlist | 18:44 |
| popey | bitesize even | 18:45 |
| popey | i.e. Someone Elses Problem | 18:45 |
| DanChapman | done! | 18:45 |
| popey | :) | 18:45 |
| popey | Ok, we've got a few mins left, anything else we should discuss? | 18:45 |
| popey | I am thinking once we get a snap, we could possibly upload two to the snap store, stable and nightly perhaps? | 18:46 |
| popey | might be a good way to get wider testing | 18:46 |
| popey | having a cron job which shoves it in the store, warts and all ? | 18:46 |
| DanChapman | Nothing immediate to discuss. Next meeting i would like to go through the search filters when James is around. | 18:47 |
| DanChapman | Yep that sounds good to me :-) | 18:47 |
| popey | wanna do that as a hangout? | 18:47 |
| popey | if your connection can handle it heh :) | 18:47 |
| popey | or is it something that you can do with images and irc? | 18:48 |
| DanChapman | Yeah i can do that as a hangout will back on my home network then :-) It's like the 1990's on this connection. Went to download chrome 1hr30mins! hah! | 18:49 |
| popey | haha | 18:49 |
| popey | Ok. Thanks DanChapman | 18:51 |
| popey | I'll crack on with my to-dos | 18:51 |
| popey | we can pounce on James anytime though, feel free to ping him a mail | 18:51 |
| DanChapman | Thanks popey. | 18:52 |
| popey | Have a great weekend! | 18:52 |
| DanChapman | Sorry for the network issues everyone. | 18:52 |
| DanChapman | popey, and you! | 18:52 |
| LarreaMikel | thanks Dan ;) | 18:52 |
| LarreaMikel | and nice job! | 18:53 |
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