[14:39] <JamesJM> quit
[14:50] <davidcalle> Hangout link: https://plus.google.com/hangouts/_/hoaevent/AP36tYcJityc4DxCEbCGQyGi32VEO9Ypa9EAYYf5WkEbAuYQo2RaeQ
[14:50] <davidcalle> pstolowski: marcustomlinson  ^
[15:29] <pstolowski> a demo scope utlizing filters I showed on my slides: lp:~stolowski/+junk/scope-filters2
[15:45] <marcustomlinson> at the bottom of: https://developer.ubuntu.com/api/scopes/cpp/sdk-15.04.1/previewwidgets/
[17:58] <popey> DanChapman: you having connection issues?
[17:58] <popey> We can do this via irc if so.
[18:00] <popey> Seems DanChapman is having cloudy internet, in the not good way
[18:00] <DanChapman> yeah hangouts is running really slow and just going black
[18:00] <popey> hah :)
[18:00] <popey> Okay, lets do irc then :)
[18:01] <DanChapman> Ok then let's go for irc then :-(
[18:02] <popey> Ok, lets start then. So first off shall we talk about the upcoming release..
[18:02] <popey> https://launchpad.net/dekko/+milestones  milestones are here
[18:02] <popey> hmm, those don't look right :)
[18:03] <DanChapman> Yep :-) so the next milestone is  the 1.0-beta which is a big one.
[18:04] <popey> Ok, Worth setting a date as a target?
[18:04] <DanChapman> And will be shipping a completely new backend including POP3 support which is super cool.
[18:04] <popey> Ooh!
[18:04] <DanChapman> Probably a good idea. But it's hard to estimate a rough date at the current state
[18:05] <popey> Ok.
[18:05] <DanChapman> the bug list to clear to get that out is still quite large. New contributors welcomed for anyone reading :-D
[18:05] <popey> Speaking of bugs.
[18:06] <popey> https://bugs.launchpad.net/dekko is the bug list.
[18:06] <popey> https://bugs.launchpad.net/dekko/+bugs?orderby=-heat&start=0 sorted by heat.
[18:07] <popey> I notice from the tags that we don't have any tagged bitesized.
[18:07] <popey> I guess that's because dekko is complex code base and finding bitesize ones is hard?
[18:07] <popey> Or just that they all got done when we did the Google Summer Of Code thing eaerlier in the year? ;)
[18:08] <LarreaMikel> I'm in another session, but I would like to ask a question here... may I?
[18:09] <popey> sure thing
[18:09] <LarreaMikel> QUESTION:Is Dekko planning to implement PGP in the near future?
[18:09] <LarreaMikel> Thanks ;)
[18:10] <DanChapman> Yeah the old code base was rather complex, and you usually had to dig into c++. I've made an effort with the rewrite to provide a nice qml client api that new contributors would be able to get up to speed pretty quickly and do pretty much all message related tasks without touching c++ so that should help figure out bitesize stuff going forward
[18:10] <popey> https://bugs.launchpad.net/dekko/+bug/1417587 that would be this bug LarreaMikel
[18:10] <LarreaMikel> thank you popey ;)
[18:10] <popey> DanChapman: awesome.
[18:10] <DanChapman> LarreaMikel, yes it's very likely to happen some point shortly after 1.0
[18:10] <popey> The PGP question is quite popular among our user base
[18:11] <LarreaMikel> great!
[18:11] <LarreaMikel> I'll read you later!
[18:12] <popey> ok
[18:12] <popey> DanChapman: the other question which gets asked quite a lot is one of notifications 😖
[18:12] <mhall119> and desktop packages, I still want that
[18:12] <mhall119> the one I have uses all my CPU
[18:14] <popey> Desktop package as in .deb or .snap?
[18:15] <DanChapman> Lol it's that word again. So notifications is a complex issue. I see penk has made a start on getting my email plugin into the accounts-plugins https://code.launchpad.net/~penk/account-plugins/add-accounts-plugin-e-mail which is cool. But that will  now need to be extended to handle pop3 as well. We also need someone to pick up the polld plugin work
[18:16] <DanChapman> mhall119, as soon as things become usable again I will send you a deb to try :-D.
[18:16] <popey> ok, have poked pat asking if we can get some more time from Penk
[18:17] <popey> Nobody has looked at making a snap yet have they?
[18:17] <popey> Thinking that might be a nice task for somoene to take on, crafting a sane snapcraft.yaml
[18:17] <DanChapman> I looked... eyes glazed other .... closed tab
[18:17] <popey> now launchpad can spit out snaps
[18:17] <popey> Hah, wise ㋛
[18:17] <DanChapman> s/other/over
[18:17] <popey> I can take a look at that.
[18:18] <popey> I've made a few snaps now, it's quite fun
[18:18] <DanChapman> Sounds good :-)
[18:18] <popey> for some value of "fun"
[18:18] <popey> Okay. I have taken a to-do to have a go at that.
[18:19] <mhall119> popey: either format
[18:19] <popey> Actually could be quite an interesting one to do.
[18:19] <mhall119> DanChapman: awesome, thanks!
[18:20] <DanChapman> also the polld plugin is imap only so that would also need extending to pop3. otherwise the notifications issue will remain. I'll add that to the bug report
[18:20] <popey> Good call.
[18:22] <DanChapman> Is there anyone we can poke about getting help with the polld plugins. Or I can make a start after the next release if we can't
[18:22] <popey> I'll speak to pat and see if we can get some help
[18:23]  * popey adds a to-do
[18:23]  * DanChapman was going to show a demo of the new Dekko today. :-(
[18:23] <popey> aw
[18:24] <DanChapman> Cheers. One thing we have never really talked about is handling calendar invites. Is there some way currently i can share them with calendar app?
[18:25] <popey> Hm.
[18:25] <popey> We did discuss this a while back I think, using calendar:// urls?
[18:25] <popey> With Ted I think.
[18:25] <DanChapman> One of the new header section filters can show you all calendar invites so it might be nice to be able to actually do something with them.
[18:25] <popey> with the details of the event encoded in the url.
[18:25] <DanChapman> Hmm did we? I don';t recall that one :-/
[18:26] <popey> heh
[18:26] <popey> maybe it was just me, sorry.
[18:26] <popey> or maybe I'm dreaming, all possible
[18:27] <popey> So this is where you get a calendar invite via email, right
[18:27] <popey> And you want to do what with it? Send it to calendar? Or do you want to interrogate the calendar to see if we're attending?
[18:28] <popey> I think for the latter, we could possibly get access to calendar with the same apparmor profile that calendar itself uses
[18:28] <popey> Given dekko is a blessed app, I think this is reasonable, right?
[18:29] <DanChapman> Yes receive via email and you want to put the event in your calendar.
[18:30] <popey> So do you want to just read the calendar?
[18:30] <DanChapman> Like it would be nice to just pass calendar/eds/whatever the .ics attachment and let the receiving app do what it wants with it rather than try and add calendar functionality to into dekko
[18:30] <popey> or do you want to inject into it too?
[18:30] <popey> right, yes
[18:31] <DanChapman> Is it worth showing in Dekko (an icon or something?) that the event was already added to your calendar?
[18:32] <popey> Well, I think the expectation (set by gmail / outlook) is that you'd get that, yes
[18:32] <popey> if you get email notitifications from gmail saying "Meeting in 10 mins", doesn't it show in the mail that you're a "yes" attending?
[18:33] <popey> But you're mostly talking about throwing the ics at calendar app
[18:33] <popey> do we have a bug for that already? If so we can add calendar and talk to Bill / Renato about that
[18:35] <DanChapman> Yeah i think it does show you that in gmail notifications. Yeah i would ike to just pass the ics off. Would be nice to be able to show you've already done it as well. Let me see if there is a bug, i don't think there is....
[18:36] <DanChapman> Nope can't find one. I'll do that after this session then and add calendar to it.
[18:36] <popey> sweet
[18:36] <popey> I'll speak to the guys
[18:36]  * popey adds a to-do
[18:38] <DanChapman> I'm super excited about releasing the unified inbox and smart folder features in the next update :-) They are working so nice!
[18:38] <popey> \o/
[18:38] <popey> Can't wait.
[18:39] <popey> I'll test that on my laptop when I build a snap of it ㋛
[18:40] <DanChapman> So a common thing I see in client's nowadays is a "snooze" feature. Like does anyone actually use that? And is it something Dekko should look into doing?
[18:41] <popey> What does that even do?
[18:42] <DanChapman> It hides the message until a certain time and then it "re-appears".
[18:42] <DanChapman> I personally don't get the point
[18:42] <popey> Blimey, how very 21st century
[18:42] <popey> Yeah, I can see why people do it, "Procrastinate" button ㋛
[18:43] <DanChapman> hah! :-p
[18:44] <DanChapman> I'll stick that on the "maybe one day" list then.
[18:44] <popey> yeah, wishlist
[18:45] <popey> bitesize even
[18:45] <popey> i.e. Someone Elses Problem
[18:45] <DanChapman> done!
[18:45] <popey> :)
[18:45] <popey> Ok, we've got a few mins left, anything else we should discuss?
[18:46] <popey> I am thinking once we get a snap, we could possibly upload two to the snap store, stable and nightly perhaps?
[18:46] <popey> might be a good way to get wider testing
[18:46] <popey> having a cron job which shoves it in the store, warts and all ?
[18:47] <DanChapman> Nothing immediate to discuss. Next meeting i would like to go through the search filters when James is around.
[18:47] <DanChapman> Yep that sounds good to me :-)
[18:47] <popey> wanna do that as a hangout?
[18:47] <popey> if your connection can handle it heh :)
[18:48] <popey> or is it something that you can do with images and irc?
[18:49] <DanChapman> Yeah i can do that as a hangout will back on my home network then :-) It's like the 1990's on this connection. Went to download chrome 1hr30mins! hah!
[18:49] <popey> haha
[18:51] <popey> Ok. Thanks DanChapman
[18:51] <popey> I'll crack on with my to-dos
[18:51] <popey> we can pounce on James anytime though, feel free to ping him a mail
[18:52] <DanChapman> Thanks popey.
[18:52] <popey> Have a great weekend!
[18:52] <DanChapman> Sorry for the network issues everyone.
[18:52] <DanChapman> popey, and you!
[18:52] <LarreaMikel> thanks Dan ;)
[18:53] <LarreaMikel> and nice job!