=== ChanServ changed the topic of #ubuntu-uos-appdev to: Currently no events are active in this room - http://summit.ubuntu.com/uos-1605/appdev/ - http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2016/05/05/%23ubuntu-uos-appdev.html [14:39] quit === ChanServ changed the topic of #ubuntu-uos-appdev to: Track: App & Scope Development | Scopes roundtable and API roadmap | Url: http://summit.ubuntu.com/uos-1605/meeting/22662/whats-new-in-scopes/ [14:50] Hangout link: https://plus.google.com/hangouts/_/hoaevent/AP36tYcJityc4DxCEbCGQyGi32VEO9Ypa9EAYYf5WkEbAuYQo2RaeQ [14:50] pstolowski: marcustomlinson ^ [15:29] a demo scope utlizing filters I showed on my slides: lp:~stolowski/+junk/scope-filters2 [15:45] at the bottom of: https://developer.ubuntu.com/api/scopes/cpp/sdk-15.04.1/previewwidgets/ === ChanServ changed the topic of #ubuntu-uos-appdev to: Currently no events are active in this room - http://summit.ubuntu.com/uos-1605/appdev/ - http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2016/05/05/%23ubuntu-uos-appdev.html === ChanServ changed the topic of #ubuntu-uos-appdev to: Track: App & Scope Development | Dekko planning session | Url: http://summit.ubuntu.com/uos-1605/meeting/22671/dekko-planning-session/ [17:58] DanChapman: you having connection issues? [17:58] We can do this via irc if so. [18:00] Seems DanChapman is having cloudy internet, in the not good way [18:00] yeah hangouts is running really slow and just going black [18:00] hah :) [18:00] Okay, lets do irc then :) [18:01] Ok then let's go for irc then :-( [18:02] Ok, lets start then. So first off shall we talk about the upcoming release.. [18:02] https://launchpad.net/dekko/+milestones milestones are here [18:02] hmm, those don't look right :) [18:03] Yep :-) so the next milestone is the 1.0-beta which is a big one. [18:04] Ok, Worth setting a date as a target? [18:04] And will be shipping a completely new backend including POP3 support which is super cool. === marcusto_ is now known as marcustomlinson [18:04] Ooh! [18:04] Probably a good idea. But it's hard to estimate a rough date at the current state [18:05] Ok. [18:05] the bug list to clear to get that out is still quite large. New contributors welcomed for anyone reading :-D [18:05] Speaking of bugs. [18:06] https://bugs.launchpad.net/dekko is the bug list. [18:06] https://bugs.launchpad.net/dekko/+bugs?orderby=-heat&start=0 sorted by heat. [18:07] I notice from the tags that we don't have any tagged bitesized. [18:07] I guess that's because dekko is complex code base and finding bitesize ones is hard? [18:07] Or just that they all got done when we did the Google Summer Of Code thing eaerlier in the year? ;) [18:08] I'm in another session, but I would like to ask a question here... may I? [18:09] sure thing [18:09] QUESTION:Is Dekko planning to implement PGP in the near future? [18:09] Thanks ;) [18:10] Yeah the old code base was rather complex, and you usually had to dig into c++. I've made an effort with the rewrite to provide a nice qml client api that new contributors would be able to get up to speed pretty quickly and do pretty much all message related tasks without touching c++ so that should help figure out bitesize stuff going forward [18:10] https://bugs.launchpad.net/dekko/+bug/1417587 that would be this bug LarreaMikel [18:10] thank you popey ;) [18:10] DanChapman: awesome. [18:10] LarreaMikel, yes it's very likely to happen some point shortly after 1.0 [18:10] The PGP question is quite popular among our user base [18:11] great! [18:11] I'll read you later! [18:12] ok [18:12] DanChapman: the other question which gets asked quite a lot is one of notifications 😖 [18:12] and desktop packages, I still want that [18:12] the one I have uses all my CPU [18:14] Desktop package as in .deb or .snap? [18:15] Lol it's that word again. So notifications is a complex issue. I see penk has made a start on getting my email plugin into the accounts-plugins https://code.launchpad.net/~penk/account-plugins/add-accounts-plugin-e-mail which is cool. But that will now need to be extended to handle pop3 as well. We also need someone to pick up the polld plugin work [18:16] mhall119, as soon as things become usable again I will send you a deb to try :-D. [18:16] ok, have poked pat asking if we can get some more time from Penk [18:17] Nobody has looked at making a snap yet have they? [18:17] Thinking that might be a nice task for somoene to take on, crafting a sane snapcraft.yaml [18:17] I looked... eyes glazed other .... closed tab [18:17] now launchpad can spit out snaps [18:17] Hah, wise ㋛ [18:17] s/other/over [18:17] I can take a look at that. [18:18] I've made a few snaps now, it's quite fun [18:18] Sounds good :-) [18:18] for some value of "fun" [18:18] Okay. I have taken a to-do to have a go at that. [18:19] popey: either format [18:19] Actually could be quite an interesting one to do. [18:19] DanChapman: awesome, thanks! [18:20] also the polld plugin is imap only so that would also need extending to pop3. otherwise the notifications issue will remain. I'll add that to the bug report [18:20] Good call. [18:22] Is there anyone we can poke about getting help with the polld plugins. Or I can make a start after the next release if we can't [18:22] I'll speak to pat and see if we can get some help [18:23] * popey adds a to-do [18:23] * DanChapman was going to show a demo of the new Dekko today. :-( [18:23] aw [18:24] Cheers. One thing we have never really talked about is handling calendar invites. Is there some way currently i can share them with calendar app? [18:25] Hm. [18:25] We did discuss this a while back I think, using calendar:// urls? [18:25] With Ted I think. [18:25] One of the new header section filters can show you all calendar invites so it might be nice to be able to actually do something with them. [18:25] with the details of the event encoded in the url. [18:25] Hmm did we? I don';t recall that one :-/ [18:26] heh [18:26] maybe it was just me, sorry. [18:26] or maybe I'm dreaming, all possible [18:27] So this is where you get a calendar invite via email, right [18:27] And you want to do what with it? Send it to calendar? Or do you want to interrogate the calendar to see if we're attending? [18:28] I think for the latter, we could possibly get access to calendar with the same apparmor profile that calendar itself uses [18:28] Given dekko is a blessed app, I think this is reasonable, right? [18:29] Yes receive via email and you want to put the event in your calendar. [18:30] So do you want to just read the calendar? [18:30] Like it would be nice to just pass calendar/eds/whatever the .ics attachment and let the receiving app do what it wants with it rather than try and add calendar functionality to into dekko [18:30] or do you want to inject into it too? [18:30] right, yes [18:31] Is it worth showing in Dekko (an icon or something?) that the event was already added to your calendar? [18:32] Well, I think the expectation (set by gmail / outlook) is that you'd get that, yes [18:32] if you get email notitifications from gmail saying "Meeting in 10 mins", doesn't it show in the mail that you're a "yes" attending? [18:33] But you're mostly talking about throwing the ics at calendar app [18:33] do we have a bug for that already? If so we can add calendar and talk to Bill / Renato about that [18:35] Yeah i think it does show you that in gmail notifications. Yeah i would ike to just pass the ics off. Would be nice to be able to show you've already done it as well. Let me see if there is a bug, i don't think there is.... [18:36] Nope can't find one. I'll do that after this session then and add calendar to it. [18:36] sweet [18:36] I'll speak to the guys [18:36] * popey adds a to-do [18:38] I'm super excited about releasing the unified inbox and smart folder features in the next update :-) They are working so nice! [18:38] \o/ [18:38] Can't wait. [18:39] I'll test that on my laptop when I build a snap of it ㋛ [18:40] So a common thing I see in client's nowadays is a "snooze" feature. Like does anyone actually use that? And is it something Dekko should look into doing? [18:41] What does that even do? [18:42] It hides the message until a certain time and then it "re-appears". [18:42] I personally don't get the point [18:42] Blimey, how very 21st century [18:42] Yeah, I can see why people do it, "Procrastinate" button ㋛ [18:43] hah! :-p [18:44] I'll stick that on the "maybe one day" list then. [18:44] yeah, wishlist [18:45] bitesize even [18:45] i.e. Someone Elses Problem [18:45] done! [18:45] :) [18:45] Ok, we've got a few mins left, anything else we should discuss? [18:46] I am thinking once we get a snap, we could possibly upload two to the snap store, stable and nightly perhaps? [18:46] might be a good way to get wider testing [18:46] having a cron job which shoves it in the store, warts and all ? [18:47] Nothing immediate to discuss. Next meeting i would like to go through the search filters when James is around. [18:47] Yep that sounds good to me :-) [18:47] wanna do that as a hangout? [18:47] if your connection can handle it heh :) [18:48] or is it something that you can do with images and irc? [18:49] Yeah i can do that as a hangout will back on my home network then :-) It's like the 1990's on this connection. Went to download chrome 1hr30mins! hah! [18:49] haha [18:51] Ok. Thanks DanChapman [18:51] I'll crack on with my to-dos [18:51] we can pounce on James anytime though, feel free to ping him a mail [18:52] Thanks popey. [18:52] Have a great weekend! [18:52] Sorry for the network issues everyone. [18:52] popey, and you! [18:52] thanks Dan ;) [18:53] and nice job! === ChanServ changed the topic of #ubuntu-uos-appdev to: Currently no events are active in this room - http://summit.ubuntu.com/uos-1605/appdev/ - http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2016/05/05/%23ubuntu-uos-appdev.html