[04:32] Good morning every one! [05:14] Morning folks! [05:14] hi arts [05:14] how are you Kilos [05:15] just cold , otherwise good ty and you? [05:16] haha bout the same! [05:16] lol [05:16] I finally got Ubuntu on my Gigabyte laptop :) :) :) [05:16] nice [05:16] what took so long [05:17] 16.04 LOL [05:17] seems it's moer stable, [05:17] nice [05:18] and the keyboard/mouse issue turned out to be a small problem, the laptop uses a I2C interface opposed to PS/2 so I fixed that this morning, only think left is to keep my eye on the wifi it seems buggy, might be a driver issue [05:19] the ubuntu nvidia driver works well [05:19] also unity sucks, the 16.04 version was so buggy, I installed the mate version and poof problems gone! [05:20] Mornings [05:20] there are still many bugs they are sorting out [05:20] hi mazal [05:21] There is a Mate unity ? [05:21] I thought mate uses a different DE [05:21] ubuntu mate [05:21] yeah its gnome2/3 [05:21] mate still uses gnome2 i think [05:21] its the best of both worlds [05:21] lol [05:21] brb [05:22] I miss gnome2 [05:22] yip [05:22] the change from that drove me to kde [05:22] but now im happy [05:23] And oom drove me to KDE hehehehe :) [05:23] lol [05:24] at least paddatrapper wasnt so stubborn [05:24] I'm not stubborn , just hard headed [05:24] is there a difference [05:24] yep [05:25] Afr has a nice word for it [05:25] Maaz google difference between hard headed and stubborn [05:25] Kilos: That didn't go down very well. Burp. [05:25] ai! [05:25] oi [05:25] maaz you babbelas ? [05:25] mazal: Huh? [05:27] My fingers is freezing , think I need more coffee [05:30] are freezing [05:30] is is for one finger [05:35] mornings [05:35] hi thatgraemeguy [06:21] I'm back :) [06:27] wb arts [06:27] hows your day going? [06:28] im more scarce lately, i have lots of work outside [06:28] so far im trying to just warm up [06:28] cool, doing? [06:28] 2 track suits battling to warm me [06:29] derusting a channel iron frame work that is the base for a plastic wter tank [06:29] metal tank leaking bad [06:29] need to pump water twice a day [06:30] so lotsa grinding to get rid of rust [06:30] sounds heavy [06:31] horrible noisy rust dusty work [06:33] aish [06:46] good mornings [06:50] howzit inetpro [07:15] morning all [07:16] * chesedo is a bit confused as to whether it is morning or evening with inetpro's morning there [07:17] oh my! Did I say morning, what time is it anyway? [07:18] Morning chesedo , inetpro [07:19] hi mazal thanks for the time :P [07:19] ;) [07:20] Oi it's testing mazal's resolve week this week. Another new release info [07:21] I think I must start marking it as spam :P [07:58] good morning [08:07] Morning mahe [08:07] oi [08:07] magespawn* [08:08] hehe [08:14] is it Friday yet? [08:16] not yet, but almost [08:16] ai! [08:17] how's everyone doing today? [08:17] hope you have all patched and rebooted your boxen again [08:23] Okish this side [08:23] boxen ? [08:30] busy running thorugh my machines now, all servers are done [08:33] Is there an exploit or something that a patch came out for ? [08:35] sup all :) [08:38] hey nlsthzn [08:38] mazal wasn't there one recently in samba? not too sure [08:38] alo magespawn, all well? [08:39] yup warm and sunny here, and that side/ [08:39] ? [08:39] getting hot as hell >.< [08:43] Lo nlsthzn [08:43] ahh well [08:44] magespawn, I dunno , just sounded like it's important to update today , is why I asked [08:46] i see my local machine is updating libssl, so that might be it [08:46] hiya mazal [08:47] hi there every body. im busy working on water tank so will be gone most of the day i think [08:47] Maaz watch them [08:47] OK Kilos I'll keep an eye on them for you [08:47] :) [08:47] * nlsthzn goes to get some more coffee [08:49] Maaz: botsnack for you to stop watching u [08:49] :) [08:49] s/u/us/ [09:11] there is no bribing the bot === MaNL is now known as MaNI [11:16] Linux linux-l2sv 4.5.2-1-default #1 SMP PREEMPT Thu Apr 21 09:07:52 UTC 2016 (0454a6e) x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux [11:21] nlsthzn: ? [11:22] uname -a magespawn [11:22] :p [11:22] it happens [11:30] what flavour are you on nlsthzn ? [11:31] openSUSE Tumbleweed [11:32] keep on rolling [11:45] sweet baby batman... got everything set up and working on Tumbleweed. Impressed! [11:57] * mazal battling to get swap enabled [11:57] Let's reboot and see [12:01] Seems to be working now. That was strange. Have a swap parition but wasn't active and wasn't listed in fstab [12:26] Bye for now , have a good afternoon all [12:27] hmm... [12:28] magespawn: http://www.ubuntu.com/usn/ [12:30] specifically regarding "USN-2959-1: OpenSSL vulnerabilities", after a standard system update you need to reboot your computer to make all the necessary changes. [12:41] ty inetpro [12:46] https://youtu.be/SYRlTISvjww some music for you guys to linux on :p [12:56] nlsthzn: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M9bq_alk-sw also [12:56] afternoon all [12:56] new tank up [12:57] very tired now and head exploding [12:57] ballie nap time [12:57] yip theblazehen... there are even more :p [12:57] Kilos: take care [12:57] will do ty [12:58] Lady java is pretty neat. Search Monzy too. Kill dash nine! [13:00] * nlsthzn will check it out later, thanks theblazehen [13:08] Man those are brilliant! Lol === jellie is now known as zipper === zipper is now known as urbanslug === urbanslug is now known as hulk{-_-} [13:36] hi hulk{-_-} [13:36] Kilos: Hello :) [13:36] oh zipper [13:36] Yes same human. [13:36] lol [13:37] you have been slacking [13:37] where are all your lug peeps that were supposed to join the africa channel [13:38] paddatrapper are you studying [13:45] Kilos: UCT [13:46] UCT? [14:07] University of Cape Town [14:07] Sorry - yes. Mis read the question [14:18] Kilos: Oh they're not there? [14:19] I can't really force them 0.o [14:19] *I* got your back doe! [14:20] bunch of slackers [14:23] Priorities, different paths in life. [15:33] chat later home time [15:55] inetpro paddatrapper chesedo join #ubuntu-uos-overflow n [15:56] in 5 mins [16:02] chesedo inetpro #ubuntu-uos-overflow meeting starting [16:20] sorry Kilos can't, bit busy [16:20] ok [16:21] * chesedo may ask the greeter bot for a summary tomorrow [16:21] lol [16:21] yessir [16:45] Looks like I will have to re-install :( [16:48] ai! [16:51] Everything messed up [16:51] Looks like one can't use more than 1 DE anymore [16:51] Added ubuntu-desktop , complete disaster [16:52] Now what to install on the re-install is the question [16:53] kde doesnt like it [16:54] Either 14.04 K or 16.04 Ubu [16:54] 16.04 K's bugs is getting to me [16:54] Is why I wanted to add another DE [16:55] i once tried adding unity to kde [16:55] Don't know how 16.04 unity is though , might also be bug ridden [16:55] couldnt find unity at all [16:55] was a waste of data and space [16:55] they say it has more bugs [16:55] oi [16:56] I wonder if one can install normal KDE on 16.04 and not use this plasma [16:57] ai! [16:57] Don't really want to go backwards and install 14.04 [16:57] go back to 14.04 man [16:57] That's going backwards with everything :( [16:57] in 6 months upgrade to 16.04 [16:58] much easier than battling [16:58] Oh well , no use sitting let me get started and re-install [16:59] Sien later oom [16:59] what did you break [16:59] try fix it first man [16:59] ai! [16:59] i go eat [17:14] KDE is in to much flux... that is why I am running openSUSE Tumbleweed, the latest and greatest that KDE has to offer. So far so good \o/ [17:22] what you mean in too mux flux nlsthzn ? [17:24] Kilos: they have a new release philosophy of releasing small itterations more often. So it is always changing, becoming better. So if a release is on a fixed timeframe they will start loosing out. [17:24] and I am also not sure if Kubuntu can keep up with backports like the past [17:24] ah [17:25] now that Ridell is not there anymore :/ [17:25] yesh he did lots [17:25] i thought he was still helping though [17:26] since he got busy with neon I don't see his name pop up in launchpad in relationship to kubuntu stuff happening [17:26] I might be wromg [17:26] *wrong [17:27] they are all so busy with these new hangout things and the uos stuff i dunno how they keep up [17:29] :) [17:32] good evening [17:34] Back where I was Saturday [17:34] systemback saves lots of issues hey mazal [17:34] hi magespawn [17:35] Kilos, yeah , fortunately I have the habbit of making a new one every Sat [17:35] Just waiting on data restore now [17:35] lol [17:36] Might have to redo my steam stuff though [17:36] Will be interesting to see if that is ok or not [17:38] What happened mazal [17:38] gremble, I added ubuntu-desktop [17:38] Big mistake [17:38] Ah [17:38] Can't have multiple DE's anymore it seems [17:38] Freedom taken away by bling [17:39] You probably need a better DM to manage which DE you start up with? [17:39] It even messed up plasma [17:39] :? [17:40] That is unfortunate [17:40] Might be worth complaining about [17:40] Could og back into plasma , but it looked like someone barfed on it [17:40] Ok data back [17:40] Re-install done in what was that , 30 min ? Thank you systemback [17:41] That's not bad [17:41] looks like systemback is the business [17:41] gremble, and that's with all apps also already included plus all configs and updates up till Sat when I made a fresh one [17:42] strange that it broke... [17:42] mazal have you just used it on a desktop setup so far? [17:42] Wow ok now I'm impressed , even steam works sharp and that one is very finiky [17:42] magespawn, yep [17:42] systemback is awesome [17:43] Eve my steam curom configs is there ( path to games folders etc. ) That not even remastersys could do [17:43] even* and custom* [17:43] i have 14.04 on a stick that can boot from any pc and still be the same as using this laptop [17:43] everything is there [17:44] I basically just need to do an update to get the updates from Saturday till today [17:44] i would be interested to see how well it works on a server setup [17:44] Me too [17:44] We needs someone brave enough [17:45] And that ain't me btw :P [17:45] i'll try it on my home one first, that is basically for messing around anyway [17:45] I must really find space for my "play" pc that I can test and muck around with [17:46] I have one , but no space. The xbox took it's space ( soory oom Kilos ) [17:47] Hehe now this was funny , open my email and all unread mail from Saturday lying there , next moment dissapeared as it synced lol [17:48] Lemme do the update before I forget that [17:48] lol [17:48] i wonder is there is version for yum based distros? [17:48] * nlsthzn uses zypper >.> [17:48] nlsthzn: same sort of thing? [17:49] basically [17:49] for openSUSE :p [17:49] what you meant to say is you wonder if there are rpm's of it :p [17:50] wikipedia says it is a package manager [17:50] Maaz tell chesedo https://bin.snyman.info/mmmjsnxx [17:50] Kilos: Righto, I'll tell chesedo on freenode [17:50] yup that is waht i was hoping for [17:50] what too [17:50] wut 2? [17:50] what no waht [17:51] haha [17:51] or s/what/waht [17:51] wakker skrik neelsie [17:51] exactly [17:53] getting a decent 487kbs download [17:53] yay [17:53] oh that was a membership board session... why would i be interested in that Kilos? [17:53] chesedo: By the way, Kilos on freenode told me "tell chesedo https://bin.snyman.info/mmmjsnxx" 3 minutes ago [17:53] because soon you will be applying for membership [17:54] oh, i did not know... [17:54] its supposed to be board sessions where peeps wanting to apply for membership can get info [17:54] not for board members as such [17:55] * mazal checks crontab [17:55] many people dont have locos to join so are lost [17:55] yep both there [17:56] systemback is really good mazal [17:56] What I find interesting is that root's crontab is restored as well. I understand mine [17:56] k gotta reboot [18:00] And I'm back where I was before I broke everything [18:00] lol [18:00] lekker hey [18:00] Ok so I learned 4 things [18:00] now dont mess around again [18:00] 1. Don't add 2nd DE [18:00] 2. I can trust systemback [18:01] 3. I found the bug why swap wasn't active [18:01] 4. Find new place for xbox and put "testing" pc in [18:01] lol [18:01] as long as you keep learning then all is good [18:01] The swap thing , I dunno who saw that earlier today [18:02] i saw part of it, did not see all [18:02] On that install , the swap was there and I assumed the installer would see it and use it. IE during install I didn't actually select it and gave it swap mount point [18:02] when i told you the swapon command months ago you said you dont need swap you have 16g ram [18:03] Now , even though it was there , I selected it and gave it mount point swap [18:03] Swap works , so now I learned what I did wrong on that install [18:03] good [18:04] Installer don't see it automatically , you must still select it even though it's already there [18:04] from a previous install [18:04] Oom Kilos , I dunno what I'm gonna do about point 4 hey [18:04] the command sudo swapon and the partition should start it [18:05] point 4 is a prob [18:05] But it doesn't add it to fstab. Reboot and it's off again [18:05] you need to outgrow games and find something serious to do [18:05] I had to manually add that one to fstab for it to work on reboot [18:05] well good you know how [18:06] im sure mine is working [18:06] By tomorrow I will have forgotten how lol [18:06] make notes man [18:06] and remember where you hide them [18:07] But what I will remember is just because there is a swap partition doesn't mean the installer will use it [18:08] This will show you if yours is active oom: cat /proc/swaps [18:08] Should show the partition and size [18:09] /dev/sda5 partition 3983356 517996 -1 [18:09] or htop will also show swap 100k/4gig or something like that. If it shows 0/0 then it's not active [18:09] Mine is not used [18:09] 0/5gig [18:10] Enough ram [18:10] I frequently check and never see any swap used [18:11] Enough work , I go play [18:12] Gonna go fiddle with BL 2's settings and see if I can get it to run smooth [18:14] mine is using 502 of 3888 [18:20] my ram seems to like > 1gb after cold start :/ good think there is plenty more [18:29] gtg cheers all [18:42] mazal there is an includes and an excludes file for systemback where you can do the needed inclusion or exclusion of specific directories etc [18:45] Kilos: how do you start systemback? [18:46] no worries got it now [18:47] have to run systemback-cli with root privilages on a server [18:48] busy creating a restore point now, cli ui is very simple [18:49] on 10% and running [18:50] sudo systemback [18:51] sorry was helping sis [18:52] im sure it will reinstall a server exactly as it was as well [18:52] it has other options like debug and upgrade in as well [18:55] there is no gui on my server, so i had to use the cli option [18:55] no problem [18:55] 95%, so it is pretty quick [18:55] yu doing it with ssh? [18:55] very fast [18:55] cool app [18:57] takes a while to put the iso on the stick though [18:58] yup so now i have a display that lists the one restore point and the options to run or quit [18:58] but does the whole bootable thing one needed unetbootin for before [18:59] we need to find a good how to for it [18:59] i just took chances and used the live option [18:59] no idea, this looks like it has just created a system retore point and saved that somewhere on the hard drive, there was not option to save it elsewhere [19:00] it saves it in the sytemback goodie [19:00] maybe i need to have some external media plugged in first [19:00] systemback goodie? [19:00] you just tick the left block and it shows [19:00] there is not left block to tick [19:01] s/not/no [19:01] i saw like a gui thing [19:01] hmm... [19:01] must be somewhere in home [19:01] i have no gui on the server [19:01] if you ssh to server dont you see the gui thing on your pc [19:02] you have a gui on pc [19:03] no [19:03] oh my [19:04] its in home somewhere [19:04] ypu can tunnel x through ssh but then i might as well hook up a monitor to the server anyway [19:05] yes all the .conf files and includes/excludes have been created in /etc/systemback [19:05] i assume you control the cli version from those files [19:05] mazal [19:05] praat man [19:05] ive only tried it once' [19:06] sigh he is gaming again [19:06] something wrong with all the ibids [19:06] all cant gogle stuff today [19:07] might just be thier link to google that is not working properly [19:07] https://www.google.co.za/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=1&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0ahUKEwje94fl0MPMAhUHJcAKHbdEADQQFggbMAA&url=https%3A%2F%2Fanswers.launchpad.net%2Fsystemback%2F%2Bquestion%2F257220&usg=AFQjCNHvOtQMWcwpsuBGmFYPESSSdalAKg&sig2=ARgbnZbniuw-suJFEaOyHg [19:07] sjoe [19:07] sorry for long link [19:07] okay then [19:07] no worries [19:08] here many [19:08] https://www.google.co.za/search?client=opera&q=systemback+command+line&sourceid=opera&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8 [19:08] ty [19:10] i cant find one related to servers [19:14] here is a copy of the .conf file https://bin.snyman.info/mmmwtcsx [19:14] you can set most of the settings needed here [19:15] the systemback folder and the files were only created after i had started the program for the first time [19:18] so in /home/systemback is the one back up file S01_2016-05-05,20.47.28 [19:20] no idea how to retore though [19:20] sigh the gui was just a click in the left block and it showed [19:21] gui so useful at times [19:22] ah well that is easy, simple choose the number of the back up you want to use and then the menu options changes to 1.Delete 2.System Restore B.Back [19:22] cool [19:23] wonderful tool, just needs getting used to [19:24] https://bin.snyman.info/mmmvqcyf this is what you see if you choose system restore [19:25] ah similar to the gui thing anyway [19:25] GOOD MORNINGS! [19:25] oops [19:25] write a how to for future refs [19:26] hi inetpro [19:26] yes just not all there right in front of you [19:26] hi inetpro [19:26] if i am feeling escpcially dedicated i might add it to the man file [19:26] espcially [19:27] any interesting news from uos? [19:27] they going on all the time [19:27] i cant keep up [19:28] uos? [19:28]