[00:00] <ArrEmmArrEff> whlai: Bashing-om im on 16.04 alright ill try that
[00:04] <whlai> Yep. I'm on 16.04 as well
[00:04] <whlai> also: http://askubuntu.com/questions/761592/unable-to-apt-get-dist-upgrade-on-a-persistent-ubuntu-16-04-usb
[00:05] <effectnet> boy seems like samba fails a lot i dunno
[00:07] <ArrEmmArrEff> whlai: Bashing-om: the triangle is gone i think it worked :) thanks guys
[00:10] <ArrEmmArrEff> i keep getting a waiting to install icon i cant interact with in my launcher do you know how i can fix it or what process to kill or whatever?
[00:10] <squinty> whlai, might want to take into account that any upgrades to persistent usb will not include kernel upgrades.  Better to just do a full install to the usb stick and that way the kernel will be updated too
[00:20] <jak2000> hi all
[00:20] <reisio> hi jak
[00:20] <jak2000> can i share a ssh-key in this environment: http://postimg.org/image/5498fpc0x/
[00:23] <OerHeks> jak2000, sure, you can share the server (public) key with all pc's, but all pc's should have their own unique key to talk back ofcourse
[00:23] <OerHeks> !ssh
[00:26] <DONALDJTRUMP> I LOVE MEXICANS.  I HIRED THOUSANDS OF THEM.  BUT WE HAVE TO BUILD A WALL.  TREMENDOUS TREMENDOUS TREMENDOUS SUCCESS!!
[00:26] <reisio> DONALDJTRUMP: heh
[00:27] <OerHeks> yes yes, DONALDJTRUMP , /join #ubuntu-mx and don't forget to pay Hillary
[00:27] <reisio> of course you know, republicans don't use IRC
[00:27] <jak2000> OerHeks actually i share  a public into a server and pc1
[00:27] <jak2000> how to share same key to other pc?
[00:28] <owen1> i am getting emails on a failed cron job. yea!! the problem is it's coming from 'Cron Daemon' and the subject is Cron <ubuntu@ip-10-100-21-10> /home/ubuntu/neo/bin/backup-test.sh >> /home/ubuntu/neo/logs/log-test.out     how to modify the sender and subject to make it nicer?
[00:28] <OerHeks> ssh-copy-id username@remotehost
[00:28] <OerHeks> jak2000, it is all in the manual https://help.ubuntu.com/14.04/serverguide/openssh-server.html
[00:29] <jak2000> pc2 = remote host    actually i cant access it
[00:29] <Bashing-om> ArrEmmArrEff: Good deal . You do good work .
[00:29] <OerHeks> jak2000, no access is hard to key-copy
[00:30] <jak2000> yes, other way?
[00:30] <ArrEmmArrEff> Bashing-om: thx:) should i be able to install google earth since they switched to the gnome softeare center?
[00:30] <jak2000> pc2 can connect via ssh to server
[00:30] <jak2000> but inverse not
[00:31] <OerHeks> jak2000, i know no solution besides to go to that pc
[00:31] <OerHeks> instruct the user of that pc maybe?
[00:31] <Bashing-om> ArrEmmArrEff: Should, providing you are running a 64 bit OS . Google no longer supports 32 bit software .
[00:32] <OerHeks> google earth has issues on 16.04
[00:32] <jak2000> opening the port and do  a port forwwaring for access the server...
[00:32] <ArrEmmArrEff> they offer it on the dl options but i chose 64 .deb -- having dependency issues
[00:32] <ArrEmmArrEff> oh thx OerHeks
[00:32] <Bashing-om> ArrEmmArrEff: But is not google-earth proprietray ? Such will not be in our reposotory .
[00:33] <ArrEmmArrEff> from the website
[00:33] <OerHeks> google-earth is missing lsb-core, discontinued
[00:33] <ArrEmmArrEff> that makes sense then thx for the info :)
[00:34] <OerHeks> https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/xenial/amd64/googleearth-package go try it ..
[00:35] <OerHeks> !info lsb-core
[00:35] <OerHeks> !info lsb-core wily
[00:41] <jak2000> sudo ssh-copy-id jak@200.101.73.40
[00:41] <jak2000> ERROR: No identities found
[00:41] <jak2000> need do first a su-
[00:41] <jak2000> su -
[00:46] <jak2000> ssh-copy-id -i your_public_key user@host
[00:47] <malena> svlxv,xc
[00:49] <glass> <---ubuntu mate 16.04 trying to find command to show incoming and outgoing for my wifi router?
[00:49] <jak2000> OerHeks where is my .key or .pub file?
[00:49] <jak2000> i see something here: /home/jak/.ssh   here exist a file named authorized_keys
[00:50] <glass> jak2000: /home/USERNAME - show hidden files.
[00:51] <jak2000> yes  i access to .ssh directory
[00:51] <jak2000> sudo ssh-copy-id jak@200.101.73.40
[00:52] <jak2000> give me a error: ERROR: No identities found
[00:54] <glass> <---ubuntu mate 16.04 trying to find command to show incoming and outgoing for my wifi router?
[00:55] <x3mboy> glass, Do you have ubuntu 16.04 installed in your router?
[00:55] <glass> x3mboy: no it is charter residential netgear
[00:56] <glass> jak2000: have you tried sudo service ssh start
[00:56] <jak2000> ssh is running i am connected actually
[00:57] <x3mboy> So you can't see the i/o packages on you router from you pc, you need to access your router in any way and sniff on the wlan interface
[00:57] <x3mboy> jak2000, sorry, what is your problem???
[00:57] <glass> x3mboy: maybe i could links (router ip) and then gawk or similar?
[00:57] <x3mboy> glass, that is a way
[00:58] <jak2000> x3mboy: http://postimg.org/image/5498fpc0x/  actually i share the key with pc10 how to copy this key to pc2?
[00:58] <x3mboy> I think that you are looking from somebody stolen your wifi connection
[00:59] <glass> x3mboy: no i am trying to setup my conky on additional monitor as a homebrew IDS =)
[01:00] <x3mboy> Do you want to copy your server publick key with the PC's (from 01 to 10)???
[01:01] <lankanmon> guys, where can i get Wubi for 16.04? I am unable to install with the ISO and I remember there used to be a windows gui for the install
[01:01] <omnomnom> !wubi
[01:02] <x3mboy> lankanmon, wubi was developed until 12.10
[01:02] <glass> <--- anyone know ubuntu mate channel name of top of head?
[01:02] <nacc> !mate | glass
[01:02] <nacc> hrm, though it was there
[01:02] <nacc> glass: i'd ask alis
[01:03] <nacc> !alis | glass
[01:03] <lankanmon> I am getting a driver error and can not install. How can I install?
[01:03] <glass> woah thats a cool bot. are you a bot also nacc:?
[01:03] <x3mboy> lankanmon, the best will be to use cygwin or a Virtual Machine
[01:03] <glass> !mate | nacc
[01:03] <nacc> glass: no, i am not.
[01:03] <x3mboy> lankanmon, i don't get what you mean with driver install
[01:04] <brian_> I'm having some quirky NTP problems. I recently updated to xenial, and now my clock is 3 to 4 seconds off. First noticed it when comparing to a GPS clock, and confirmed with "ntpdate -q ntp.ubuntu.com"
[01:04] <brian_> I can force the clock to set with ntpdate, but a reboot makes it off again
[01:04] <lankanmon> x3mboy: Is there any other options? I would really like to use Ubuntu with dual boot (unobstructed)
[01:05] <x3mboy> lankanmon, if you want dual-boot why you need wubi???
[01:05] <x3mboy> lankanmon, just perform a normal instalation and partition your disk to make space for both OS
[01:05] <brian_> etc/ntp.conf: http://paste.ubuntu.com/16228909/
[01:05] <lankanmon> because I am unable to use the live cd installer (it crashes)
[01:06] <x3mboy> Can you use an usb stick?
[01:07] <lankanmon> I am using a USB stick... My laptop does not have a disk drive
[01:08] <ArrEmmArrEff> thx guys seeya
[01:08] <x3mboy> lankanmon, where you want to install both OS then???
[01:08] <x3mboy> lankanmon, or you mean Do you don't have a CD-ROM Drive???
[01:09] <lankanmon> x3mboy: No I have a HDD, I mean it does not have a CD/DVD drive
[01:09] <x3mboy> Ok
[01:09] <x3mboy> lankanmon, what is the problem with the USB? It says something when it crashes???
[01:11] <askpcguy> reisio: I've been poking that perl command around but I only get a message saying command not found
[01:14] <lankanmon> x3mboy: It just says the installer has failed and it needs to send an error report. It also said something about driver issues
[01:14] <virtuosoj> which DE uses less system resources, Unity or Gnome Shell?
[01:16] <x3mboy> lankanmon, well, if you want dual boot you should obtain then specific details about the crashes or try to create the booutable USB again maybe with a new downloaded ISO
[01:16] <marchesini> hey guys, on the last releases of ubuntu 10.04 ~ 12.04 the application GWIBBER is included into the system, i like this application and i can't install the app to do like he do on the ubuntu 10.04 to popup twitter messages, how can i do this? or have other application to do the same
[01:17] <lankanmon> x3mboy: Yeah I am downloading it again. Hopefully it will work
[01:17] <x3mboy> lankanmon, please let me know how it was..
[01:19] <dmead> how do i ask apt which package owns a file?
[01:19] <dmead> @channel
[01:20] <EgoAleSum> hello, i’m trying to play with LXC container on 16.04. I have a container running and connected to the lxcbr0 bridge. the container host has IP 192.168.1.80 on the network, and the container is 192.168.4.178. When I do “ping 192.168.4.178” from the container host, it works. When I ping from another node in the network, packets get lost. I’ve made sure that net.ipv4.ip_forward is 1, iptables is configured
[01:20] <EgoAleSum> properly and the routing tables are correctly forwarding request to 192.168.4.0/24 through the container host. any idea why i can’t connect?
[01:22] <EgoAleSum> here’s some debug info: http://pastie.org/10824803 (output of iptables-save, lxc-ls, checking net.ipv4.ip_forward, ifconfig)
[01:23] <EgoAleSum> also, the container can ping another node in the network successfully
[01:24] <reisio> askpcguy: which perl || echo 'no perl'
[01:24] <virtuosoj> I am thinking of setting up my Raspberry Pi2 as a home media center using Ubuntu. I would like to run emulators, Kodi, and possibly native games/browser
[01:24] <virtuosoj> what emulators will work for me
[01:24] <reisio> askpcguy: or better yet: which perl || sudo apt-get install perl && which perl
[01:24] <EgoAleSum> virtuosoj: forget emulators on a RPi2…. the CPU is too slow. same for games
[01:25] <imthenachoman> hi guys. using s-nail (mail) is there a command that will print how many total messages are in the inbox?
[01:25] <wikideer> Depends on the consoles you want to emulate
[01:25] <wikideer> I can emulate NES on an RPi2 fine
[01:25] <wikideer> Anything past that though becomes a bit dodgy
[01:26] <EgoAleSum> no one can help me with my LXC issues?
[01:27] <marchesini> virtuosoj, the rpi2 dont have the best graphic performance
[01:27] <marchesini> can emulate psx games slowly
[01:27] <SaEeDIRHA> hi
[01:28] <wikideer> If you want an emulation machine it's probably better to invest in a small, cheap desktop
[01:29] <marchesini> rpi3 is quadcore 1.2, i don't know the graphics processor
[01:32] <a100> hi
[01:33] <askpcguy> I'm running perl || echo 'no perl' and its just sitting there
[01:33] <a100> OK. I'm a100 and I'm a IRC noob.
[01:34] <Poke95> a100: Do you have a question regarding ubuntu?
[01:34] <a100> No, but I can solve some.
[01:34] <Poke95> (Although I am not really familiar at all with ubuntu's features)
[01:34] <a100> What's yer problem?
[01:34] <Poke95> Well, none, because I don't use ubuntu...
[01:35] <a100> OK.
[01:35] <Poke95> I am just here to watch for spam and offtopic comments ;)
[01:35] <nacc> askpcguy: so it's running perl, waiting for input on stdin...
[01:35] <nacc> askpcguy: what did you think that command would do?
[01:36] <virtuosoj> which is less resource intensive: unity or gnome 3 shell?
[01:36] <blu_> Nerds
[01:36] <blu_> jk.  i've come to join you.
[01:36] <askpcguy> not a clue, possibly print the version of perl
[01:37] <a100> @virtuosoj GNOME 3. Unity has more GUI strain.
[01:37] <nacc> askpcguy: that would be `perl -version`
[01:37] <wikideer> perl -v || echo 'No perl m8'
[01:37] <virtuosoj> al00, because of Compiz?
[01:38] <askpcguy> So I have perl 5 v22, subversion 1
[01:38] <a100> Bye
[01:39] <virtuosoj> I'm trying to find any articles with direct performance comparisons of unity vs gnome shell. can't really find
[01:45] <sine0> ok so i was rocking 15.10 then a prompt to upgrade to 16.smthn which i did, but now when i go to run vmware it ask about compiling kernel headers and fails etc and i cant run it
[01:45] <sine0> "several modules must be compiled and built into the running kernel..."
[01:51] <pauljw> sine0, not that i'm can tell you how to do it, but it might need kernel source files that may not have been included with your upgrade.
[02:17] <kenifanying> Hi all, I need to access a windows server share(192.168.30.118),  I can access it via my win 10 machine(192.168.100.2), but can't access via my ubuntu 16.04 machine (192.168.100.2)。 ubuntu behand the same router with win 10, and ubuntu can access win 10 share,  any suggestion?
[02:18] <azizLIGHT> just fyi if anyone wants emoji on ubuntu to work, install ttf-ancient-fonts package
[02:18] <azizLIGHT> i got my frog faces now
[02:18] <lankanmon> I just installed ubuntu (dual boot)  but windows still loads (no bootloader)
[02:25] <squinty> lankanmon,  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2/Troubleshooting#Boot-Repair  might want to give that a try. otherwise, the chroot method outlined at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2/Installing#via_ChRoot  is the other method to try.  right in the middle of cooking supper so won't be around.  good luck :-)
[02:26] <azizLIGHT> 🐸
[02:27] <askpcguy> can I use grep to find a regex match in an html file?
[02:29] <somsip> askpcguy: yes, yes you can
[02:29] <askpcguy> I saw the --help for grep, creates even more questions
[02:30] <somsip> askpcguy: if you want direct help, go ahead and say what you want to do
[02:30] <askpcguy> I'm saving an html file and want to remove a section before using DIFF because this portion always changes
[02:31] <askpcguy> basically everything in html after from the image gallery
[02:31] <reisio> askpcguy: what was wrong with what I gave you?
[02:31] <askpcguy> it was saying command not found
[02:31] <reisio> askpcguy: so install perl, I told you how to do that as well
[02:31] <askpcguy> plus I been trying to adapt it for that text "from the image gallery"
[02:31] <somsip> askpcguy: parsing html with regex is generally a questionable decision, but can be done. Use sed.
[02:32] <askpcguy> perl is part of ubuntu mate
[02:32] <somsip> reisio: you've done this already? I'll back off then...
[02:32] <reisio> askpcguy: you'll have to share your image gallery HTML for help with that
[02:32] <reisio> askpcguy: then the command will be found
[02:32] <reisio> somsip: <shrug>
[02:33] <Josh4all> askpcguy: perl is in every *nix :)
[02:33] <askpcguy> ok lets back up slightly, is there an easy way to count <div tags and remove a specific one?
[02:33] <reisio> yes
[02:33] <reisio> but first you need to be able to know whether an executable is installed or not :p
[02:34] <somsip> askpcguy: you are making it complicated by using regexes though. Use a DOM manipulator
[02:34] <meupau> how can i make a remote trigger with raspberry pi, 3g usb, a power relay ??? i can trigger remotely by a socket connection?
[02:34] <somsip> meupau: that question does not seem ubuntu related
[02:35] <wikideer> When it comes down to HTML/XML you might as well use some sort of parser built for these docs to make it easier on yourself
[02:35] <owen1> How to modify the default 'sender' and 'subject' in cronjob failure email?
[02:35] <reisio> he hasn't even gotten to the regex part yet
[02:35] <reisio> he's back on trying to run commands
[02:35] <somsip> reisio: and pretty offtopic...
[02:35] <reisio> askpcguy: my example used the commands 'curl' and 'perl' only, you can see if they exist with: which curl; which perl
[02:36] <rahuldev> Hi, Is there way I can know about my ram in ubuntu?
[02:36] <somsip> rahuldev: what do you want to know about it?
[02:36] <askpcguy> I've got curl and perl, I'm going to try some examples and see how the commands work
[02:37] <rahuldev> somsip, I want to purchase new, RAM so I want to know it's details?
[02:37] <nicomachus> owen1: you should be able to use a MAILFROM= option for the sender. not sure about the subject
[02:37] <somsip> rahuldev: sudo lshw -c memory
[02:37] <rahuldev> thanks somsip
[02:37] <somsip> np
[02:38] <owen1> nicomachus: thank you!
[02:38] <nicomachus> owen1: I believe /etc/mailname is where the FROM is pulled. so if you have a hostname listed there, it will use that as the hostname for the FROM address.
[02:40] <rahuldev> somsip, it's give many information but not giving its frequence I mean in mhz
[02:40] <nicomachus> owen1: some interesting stuff here about modifying subject, but they all seem like workarounds really.
[02:40] <nicomachus> https://serverfault.com/questions/56497/how-to-modify-a-cronjob-email-subject
[02:40] <owen1> nicomachus: so i might be able to MAILFROM=owen1 in the cron itself or in /etc/mailname ?
[02:40] <reisio> askpcguy: example I gave you should work perfectly
[02:40] <somsip> rahuldev: it does on mine:  description: DIMM DDR3 Synchronous 1600 MHz (0.6 ns)
[02:41] <nicomachus> owen1: you can either use the MAILFROM=owen1 option in your cron, or change the hostname via /etc/mailname
[02:41] <somsip> rahuldev: try "sudo lshw -c memory | grep description" to get less information
[02:41] <nicomachus> owen1: but modifying the hostname will still just make it root@newfoo.com instead of root@foo.com
[02:41] <owen1> nicomachus: great. i wish the subject was also so easy.
[02:42] <askpcguy> ok found a better match
[02:42] <rahuldev> somsip not giving frequency
[02:42] <owen1> nicomachus: what do u mean by 'modifying the hostname'?
[02:42] <somsip> rahuldev: paste the output in a paste bin
[02:42] <somsip> !paste | rahuldev
[02:42] <askpcguy> the text tmb, just remove the line containing tmb
[02:44] <rahuldev> somsip, http://pastebin.com/YN5WMfMj
[02:47] <askpcguy> found it, sed -i.bak '/tmb/d' ./file.html
[02:47] <somsip> rahuldev: strange. Try a full sudo lshw and have a read through it. Maybe it isn't appearing on your -c memory for some reason
[02:47] <rahuldev> ok I'll read it full. Thanks
[02:54] <askpcguy> when I encrypt my home dir, does that include the desktop?  I'm guessing yes but wanted to make sure
[02:56] <reisio> askpcguy: it includes the files in ~/Desktop/
[02:56] <reisio> ~/ being short for /home/youruser/
[02:56] <filiweraa> hola???
[02:56] <reisio> filiweraa: shalom
[02:57] <filiweraa> alguiien para hablar al face??
[02:58] <reisio> filiweraa: /msg alis list *ubunt*es
[02:59] <somsip> !es | filiweraa
[03:05] <uio> Hi I am trying to print a booklet. I tried bookletimposer, but it only words for booklets that are half the size of a sheet of paper. I want a booklet that takes up one quarter, printed double-sided. Any software suggestions ?
[03:07] <reisio> uio: yeah, pdfnup from pdfjam
[03:07] <reisio> uio: or anything saying it's for "n-up"
[03:07] <reisio> which is what what you're doing is called
[03:08] <reisio> uio: something somewhere in libreoffice also probably has some bizarre GUI template approach to this
[03:08] <askpcguy> ok last question I think reisio, and I really appreciate the help
[03:08] <uio> reisio: will libreoffice take pdfs ?
[03:09] <askpcguy> I've got sed in a script and all I get is some random file named sed(random letters) but the script does not operate as expected
[03:09] <reisio> uio: yes
[03:09] <reisio> askpcguy: you're being way too vague
[03:09] <reisio> askpcguy: is the site you're dealing with a secret?
[03:10] <askpcguy> no I just dont want to say, its for tickets to an event which sells out quickly
[03:10] <jimtendo-X202EP> Hi guys, trying to reset root password for MySQL on one of Ubuntu 16.04 servers.... I've successfully stopped the MySQL Daemon using "systemctl stop mysql", but starting it up again manually ("mysql --skip-grant-tables") fails with an error about being unable to create "/var/run/mysqld/mysqld.sock". Anyone have any idea what's happening here?
[03:11] <jimtendo-X202EP> ... guessing Systemd is enabling the creation of this socket file or something?
[03:11] <reisio> askpcguy: so tell me in a pm
[03:11] <askpcguy> hang on
[03:11] <reisio> jimtendo-X202EP: you stop it with systemd and start it without?
[03:12] <jimtendo-X202EP> reisio: Yeah, I need to add the --skip-grant-tables param in order to reset the root pass.
[03:15] <reisio> jimtendo-X202EP: you probably want the service running for that
[03:15] <reisio> jimtendo-X202EP: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MysqlPasswordReset
[03:16] <uio> \join #latex
[03:22] <yearofthelinuxde> Hello, I am trying to remove an old btrfs array
[03:22] <yearofthelinuxde> I've had *quite* a lot of trouble doing this, to the point where I literally zero-wrote all the disks in the array
[03:22] <yearofthelinuxde> however, it still appears in the nautlis file browser...
[03:23] <yearofthelinuxde> does anyone have any idea how to remove this
[03:25] <yearofthelinuxde> hello?
[03:25] <n-iCe> guys I just bought a new laptop, should I alwats install additional drivers?
[03:26] <dchapman> !patience
[03:26] <n-iCe> always
[03:27] <jimtendo-X202EP> reisio: Unforuntately, no cigar :( That documentation is a bit old - for non-systemd Ubuntus.
[03:31] <arts> Howzit everyone!
[03:31] <reisio> jimtendo-X202EP: which bit failed?
[03:32] <yearofthelinuxde> does anyone have any experience with btrfs arrays?
[03:32] <virtuosoj> Fresh install of 16.04, internet failure during install of ubuntu-restricted-extras caused flash and ttf mscore fonts to not install properly
[03:32] <virtuosoj> how can I do a clean full reinstall of the package?
[03:32] <yearofthelinuxde> I'm just trying to remake one (long story), and literally just zero wrote all the disks
[03:32] <jimtendo-X202EP> reisio: That wiki still recommends to start from the same command that I was using (avoiding systemctl, which doesn't allow the socket file to exist).... However....
[03:33] <yearofthelinuxde> but when I try to make the array, it says 'not enough space'
[03:33] <jimtendo-X202EP> I just found the solution.... mysqld_safe works! Very simple!
[03:34] <yearofthelinuxde> been at this for a couple weeks now...
[03:35] <jimtendo-X202EP> So, for Ubuntu 16.04, if a user needs to reset their password, do: systemctl stop mysql; mysqld_safe --skip-grant-tables; mysql -u root; .... and then proceed as per usual.
[03:44] <yearofthelinuxde> does anyone know where nautilus pulls its info about devices on the sidebar from?
[03:44] <aavrug> Hello all!
[03:45] <aavrug> I am writing a shell file and matching a package from dpkg -s php5-mysql. It is not installed but getting wrong result.
[03:46] <aavrug> since It is returning the actual value in Status how can I match that?
[03:48] <aavrug> `dpkg -s php5-mysql | grep Status` I had used that for checking.
[03:50] <reisio> yearofthelinuxde: udev/udisks
[03:50] <mag300> whois mag300
[03:53] <n-iCe> hello all
[03:53] <mag300> hello
[03:54] <n-iCe> My laptop has finger print reader, how can I make it work?
[03:54] <zenith_> halo
[04:02] <django_> hey how do i turn off screen recorder lol
[04:02] <django_> the borders are just there and its recording
[04:02] <django_> "recordmydesktop"
[04:03] <reisio> I forget the shortcut key
[04:03] <reisio> killall recordmydesktop
[04:03] <reisio> f9, f10, summin
[04:03] <n-iCe> sudo apt-get update
[04:03] <django_> reisio, the borders are there no program it seems
[04:03] <django_> reisio, worked lol
[04:03] <django_> but how can i do a recording then
[04:06] <ppdavis> hi
[04:06] <jamesd_> hello
[04:07] <Inocuous> hello
[04:08] <manosnore> I'm kind of at an end with a btrfs issue. I've asked #btrfs and they haven't responded. I'm about to wipe the drives and maybe go to zfs. I lost a drive in a 10 RAID. I'm running 14.04.4 LTS with btrfs tools v 3.12. I can mount the array as read only degraded but the data seems not to be readable. I've tried btrfs check -- repair as well as a host of other things to try and recover the data with no success on my own.
[04:08] <jamesd_> manosnore: welcome to the wonderworld of bitterfs ;-)
[04:10] <manosnore> yeah, I read the warnings I dove in anyways
[04:10] <manosnore> I was a peace until a drive failed
[04:11] <manosnore> I said to myself "Oh it can't be THAT bad..."
[04:17] <reisio> django_: it saves as soon as it stops
[04:17] <reisio> django_: unless you configure it to save in real time
[04:17] <reisio> I'm afraid I don't keep track; recordmydesktop doesn't use ffmpeg as a backend, IIRC
[04:17] <reisio> which makes it less than ideal
[04:17] <Mao> Hi is there any way that i can have  back wlan0 wlan1 etc. instead of wlp2s0 or wlx002719b9213c  -whatever that is ?
[04:25] <akik> Mao: yes use net.ifnames=0 kernel parameter
[04:32] <aavrug> got an alternate for checking \0/
[04:33] <mag300> hello
[04:34] <jamesd_> hi
[04:50] <Mao> akik: can you please be more specific :P i am very new on ubuntu
[04:54] <Mao> akik: where i have to use it ?
[04:54] <reisio> Mao: http://askubuntu.com/questions/628217/use-of-predictable-network-interface-names-with-alternate-kernels#answer-628504
[05:03] <Mao> reisio:  do i must change that line ? GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="quiet splash"
[05:03] <Mao> GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX=""
[05:03] <Mao> the first one ?
[05:05] <reisio> Mao: if the tut is saying to add something to it, and it already exists yes, modify it
[05:06] <n-iCe> Hi guys, found this: http://postimg.org/image/dsjwz85b5/ should I install it?
[05:06] <Mao> reisio: but on the tut i dont see anything about wlan0 instead of wlp20
[05:06] <reisio> ="quiet splash net.ifnames=0"
[05:06] <reisio> Mao: they'll change once you reboot with that line intact
[05:06] <reisio> after update-grub
[05:06] <tscheitrum> Hell!  I wasn't sure where to find more info on this, but i had a question on how ZFS in 16.04 was implemented.  Is it just the integrated kernel modules of the 'ZFS on Linux' (ZOL) modules?  or is it a full ZFS port and includes all the feature sets, like encryption?
[05:06] <reisio> you can fix it via udev, too, but grub's config is simpler, IMO
[05:07] <tscheitrum> *hello
[05:07] <Mao> reisio: thank you both very much
[05:07] <reisio> tscheitrum: you could always use proper, in-the-kernel ZFS with GNU/Linux
[05:07] <reisio> tscheitrum: but there has always been some question as to whether you can distribute the zfs driver and the Linux kernel together
[05:07] <tscheitrum> hi!
[05:08] <reisio> tscheitrum: the only thing that's happened recently is Canonical/Ubuntu has decided it can distribute both together
[05:08] <tscheitrum> i understand the legal problems, i'm mainly concerned with the implementation and feature set of ZFS from a consumer standpoint
[05:08] <reisio> it's the same feature set
[05:08] <tscheitrum> is it just coupling the ZFS on Linux modules, or did ubuntu themselves do a full port of ZFS?
[05:09] <reisio> again, ZFS has worked with GNU/Linux since the beginning
[05:09] <reisio> there was only ever a question of whether it could legally be distributed _with_ Linux
[05:09] <Mao> reisio:  just to confirm GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="net.ifnames=0 biosdevname=0"
[05:09] <Mao> that would be ok ?
[05:09] <reisio> which Ubuntu has decided to not care about
[05:10] <reisio> see #zfsonlinux for more information
[05:10] <tscheitrum> gotcha.  So i guess my main question is: does the shipped version of ubuntu 16.04 support ZFS encryption?
[05:10] <reisio> Mao: probably, I think you only need net.ifnames=0
[05:10] <askpcguy> I just wanr to punch SED
[05:10] <reisio> tscheitrum: I can't imagine otherwise, it is not a special version of ZFS, it's ordinary ZFS
[05:10] <reisio> see #zfsonlinux for more information
[05:10] <reisio> askpcguy: perl ftw
[05:10] <Mao> ok thx
[05:11] <askpcguy> I need some crazy head or brain trama so I can wake up and "OH I know scripting!"
[05:12] <reisio> askpcguy: or just explain what you're doing
[05:12] <reisio> would be better than sending a whiney message about it every 30 minutes :p
[05:12] <askpcguy> curl > html file, regex remove a line or two
[05:12] <askpcguy> but ice cream takes a higher priority
[05:13] <tscheitrum> reisio: thanks for your help! I'll target my questions to the #zfsonlinux channel, since its very specific to ZFS.  Thanks for your help
[05:14] <reisio> askpcguy: yeah, but you have to be more explicit than 'a line or two'
[05:14] <reisio> you already said that a few times
[05:14] <reisio> tscheitrum: np, g'luck
[05:15] <OerHeks> there is a wiki page, maybe old, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/encryptedZfs
[05:16] <tscheitrum> 0erHeks: That's to install ubuntu on a LUKS container with ZFS as the root filesystem, a bit different than what i want to achieve
[05:16] <Mao> reisio: it does change nothing ifconfig still shows me wlp2s0 and wlx002719b9213c
[05:17] <reisio> Mao: you have to change the file, run update-grub, and reboot
[05:18] <Josh4all> Can ZFS only be used under at least 4GB RAM machine
[05:18] <tscheitrum> the confusion is: the BSD implementation of ZFS has encryption, the ZFS on Linux (ZOL) port does not yet.  its lagging behind the BSD implementation by a few versions.  The confusion on my part is i can't tell if ubuntu just litereally shipped the coompiled kernel modules from ZOL (which does not support encryption), or if they ported ZFS themselves (which might support encryption, depending on what version of ZFS they ported
[05:18] <tscheitrum> from BSD)
[05:18] <Josh4all> Once tried PC-BSD w/ ZFS and it runs very slow
[05:19] <OerHeks> Josh4all, not all functions work with 4gb or less, true
[05:21] <reisio> tscheitrum: Ubuntu did nothing but bundle the driver with Linux
[05:21] <Mao> reisio: works fine :)
[05:21] <reisio> tscheitrum: it's already been available as a module for years and years
[05:22] <tscheitrum> reisio: gotcha, okay, thanks!
[05:23] <reisio> tscheitrum: https://github.com/zfsonlinux/zfs/issues/494 is the tracking bug, and has links to patchsets
[05:24] <neo1691> Hello. I am running the latest ubuntu 16.04 and want to run a command "setxkbmap -option ctrl:swapcaps" at startup. I plan to use my own window manager, so I want to know what's the best place to put the command in?
[05:24] <neo1691> I have tried .xinitrc, /etc/rc.local and a cronjob as user. Nothing worked.
[05:25] <reisio> neo1691: how're you starting your window manager, ~/.xinitrc?
[05:26] <neo1691> reisio: I am not using a window manager yet, I plan to use. Haven't configured it yet.
[05:26] <reisio> neo1691: mmmkay
[05:27] <neo1691> So I reckon, if I use a window manager, I use .xinitrc. But what about unity?
[05:27] <reisio> neo1691: you can put this into ~/.xinitrc: command &\nexec your window manager
[05:27] <reisio> just list it before, and background it (&)
[05:27] <OerHeks> You could put that xkb option in xorg.conf too
[05:28] <neo1691> Okay. Since I am not using a window manager yet, only unity, I will use xkb option as suggested by OerHeks
[05:29] <OerHeks> just read this post, http://askubuntu.com/questions/451945/permanently-set-keyboard-layout-options-with-setxkbmap-in-gnome-unity
[05:29] <neo1691> The plan is to use window manager for daily development workflow and only switch back to unity when I need to do a video call etc.
[05:29] <neo1691> Thanks OerHeks
[05:31] <reisio> if the setxkb bit is only for your new window manager, you won't want it in xorg.conf, then
[05:31] <reisio> I'd probably use two separate X servers in your situation
[05:39] <neo1691> Never knew this possibility, of using two different X servers. Amazing
[05:51] <Mao> i am currently installing android studio  and on they page it states i must add come 32 libs sudo apt-get install lib32z1 lib32ncurses5 lib32bz2-1.0 lib32stdc++6  and that is what i get : E: Unable to locate package lib32bz2-1.0
[05:51] <Mao> E: Couldn't find any package by glob 'lib32bz2-1.0'
[05:51] <Mao> E: Couldn't find any package by regex 'lib32bz2-1.0'
[05:51] <Mao> any advice please?
[05:59] <newseong> Hey folks.
[05:59] <newseong> Since I upgraded to 16.04 LTS Ubuntu MATE I've been having some of my text
[06:00] <newseong> what do you call it when the text gets fuzzy or has artifacts in it?
[06:00] <newseong> Something with the graphics.
[06:00] <newseong> Tearing I believe.
[06:00] <newseong> Some of the text in Firefox is tearing.
[06:00] <newseong> Any coders on call?
[06:01] <neo1691> Even I feel sometimes that the text on reddit on firefox is not what I want. I feel it's tearing too.
[06:01] <newseong> Some of the text on a given page looks very faint like it's not writing properly.
[06:01] <newseong> But this is very obvious.
[06:02] <newseong> It's maybe one line of the whole page but it happens consistently.
[06:04] <rud0lf> is there an easy way to install php5.0 on xenial?
[06:05] <reisio> rud0lf: yeah there's a ppa
[06:05] <reisio> but you should really only use it as a stopgap
[06:05] <reisio> and switch to 7 ASAP
[06:06] <reisio> or better yet, switch from PHP to a better language
[06:06] <rud0lf> ok, thank you
[06:06] <neo1691> http://imgur.com/3CL0cBR here is an example of my font
[06:07] <reisio> neo1691: what you're experiencing can happen if you haven't been using a complex antialiaser/hinter before, and then suddenly are
[06:07] <reisio> for lack of a better term, the "old way" focused on readability
[06:08] <reisio> and the new focuses on authentic reproduction of the font vectors
[06:09] <reisio> neo1691: http://www.kilobitspersecond.com/2009/04/17/ubuntu-font-hinting-you-a-cautionary-tale/
[06:09] <reisio> good comparison here on that page: http://www.kilobitspersecond.com/2009/04/17/ubuntu-font-hinting-you-a-cautionary-tale/#attachment_2034
[06:13] <neo1691> I will go through the links. This is a fresh installation of ubuntu. I haven't been using any antialiaser.
[06:13] <neo1691> Let me see what I can find. Thank you reisio :)
[06:24] <portablejim> I'm trying to configure IPv6 DHCP (DHCPv6) and I can get an address but the ubuntu client just doesn't want to send a hostname.
[06:25] <meridel> Hello there, I got a small problem with openjdk: I just installed it a tried to launch an executable jar file, but the launch crashes and I get an error in that "problematic frame": "[libjava.so+0x1d009]  JNU_GetEnv+0x19
[06:25] <meridel> "
[06:25] <meridel> Does anyone has an idea on how to make it work ?
[06:25] <meridel> I couldnt find anything on the net
[06:28] <OerHeks> meridel, hard to say, maybe that jar wants oracle java, not openJDK  .. what jar exactly?
[06:29] <anonymous_> i need ahelp with icloud bypass
[06:29] <meridel> It's a Minecraft jar
[06:29] <meridel> But I was able to launch it before, on a previous installation of Debian
[06:29] <meridel> This is the latest ubuntu by the way
[06:31] <meridel> This is the entire process: https://wiscot.org/zerobin/?a020685d711058a3#KsAKEZoO+g2YqfrhcUJMsRrAkaK8nypq22WlJhN5hc4=
[06:32] <john1991> hello
[06:33] <meridel> Hello there
[06:33] <anonymous_> hi
[06:33] <abel> hello
[06:33] <meridel> OerHeks: has any idea of what could be happening ? :/
[06:34] <abel> can anyone tell me why mode +x does not work here?
[06:34] <abel> how do i register eventually?
[06:34] <OerHeks> meridel, no clue sofar, did you install a videodriver?
[06:34] <PETsounds> Hi, is it possible to restrict the use of dd on a hard drive?
[06:34] <OerHeks> !register | abel
[06:35] <meridel> OerHeks: I got the nvidia private drivers
[06:36] <meridel> Maybe if I change em... ?
[06:36] <OerHeks> meridel, sounds oke, no need to change them i think
[06:37] <meridel> Yeah... says it has been tested too
[06:37] <abel>  /msg nickserv register 1234 abel.thomas.de@gmail.com
[06:37] <OerHeks> minecraft could work with openJDK 7/8 ..
[06:37] <meridel> I never had problems before :o
[06:37] <meridel> I tried with openjdk 8, I had the same problem
[06:38] <elky> abel: use better passwords :P
[06:38] <meridel> xD
[06:38] <abel>  /msg nickserv register August2014$$ abel.thomas.de@gmail.com
[06:38] <meridel> And it looks like openjdk-7 can't be installed anymore ? oO
[06:38] <meridel> Huhuhu
[06:39] <elky> abel: make sure there's no space at the start of your line
[06:39] <dax> abel: /query nickserv, then type that stuff in the new tab that pops up
[06:39] <kriszta3> ati
[06:39] <kriszta3> nvidia
[06:40] <kriszta3> drivers
[06:40] <abel> mode abel +x
[06:41] <HermanDE> Is there a simple method of using google to authenticate a user to a Desktop without two factor?  For example using pam to auth to google and allow a user to login to lightdm?
[06:41] <elky> abel: go to #freenode and ask for that nick if you want it
[06:41] <meridel> Nvidia binary drivers - version 341.42 - has been tested - proprietary
[06:44] <abel> mode abel +x
[06:45] <meridel> lol
[06:45] <eht>  /KICK abel
[06:45] <meridel> So, anyone got an idea of what could be happening ? I have to tell I dont really understand why it isn't working :/
[06:50] <kriszta3> inkabb pihenj
[06:50] <abel_de> mode abel_de +x
[06:50] <elky> abel_de: you still need the / right at the start
[06:51] <abel_de> mode abel_de +x
[06:53] <lunarmage> hello, I just installed Ubuntu Minimal with the base system only package and I forgot to include some sort of network interface that I know to use
[06:53] <lunarmage> however, I have wpa_supplicant
[06:54] <lunarmage> how can I connect to my WPA2 connection from here? Google isn't helping
[06:54]  * neo1691 rebooting
[06:54] <lunarmage> I already tried rebooting
[06:56] <meridel> Hum
[06:56] <meridel> Do you have any graphical interface ?
[06:57] <meridel> I think the usual thing to connect in guy is called nm-appled
[06:57] <meridel> gui *
[06:57] <meridel> nm-applet * T_T
[06:57] <lunarmage> thing is, I know how to use networkmanager from the command line
[06:57] <Triffid_Hunter> lunarmage: chuck your essid and psk into /etc/wpa_supplicant/wpa_supplicant.conf, then /etc/init.d/net.wlp* restart and see how you go
[06:57] <lunarmage> and no, no GUI interface, went as minimal
[06:58] <Triffid_Hunter> lunarmage: no idea about networkmanager, every time I encounter a system with that installed I have to remove it before networking stuff will work right
[07:00] <lunarmage> Triffid_Hunter: you mean put the stuff in /etc/init.d/net.wlp2s0
[07:00] <Triffid_Hunter> lunarmage: no, don't edit that, I meant what i said
[07:01] <lunarmage> what did you mean then?
[07:01] <lunarmage> /etc/nitd/net.wlp* doesn't exist
[07:01] <anonkun> how do I make a bootable windows 10 disk from ubuntu :O
[07:01] <Triffid_Hunter> lunarmage: gotta symlink it from net.lo then, ifconfig -a should give you the name
[07:02] <Michel> wiht terminal
[07:02] <deavid> Hi! we installed a fresh kubuntu 16.04 yesterday and this morning we noticed "kate" doesn't show any editor. Is very weird; we open files and they show up in the project but we can't see the contents
[07:02] <Triffid_Hunter> anonkun: hm, cat windows.iso > /dev/cdrom perhaps, or use cdrecord or similar to do it properly
[07:02] <anonkun> oops
[07:02] <anonkun> I meant pendrive
[07:02] <deavid> yesterday it was working
[07:03] <Triffid_Hunter> anonkun: cat windows.iso > /dev/usbdisk ?
[07:03] <lunarmage> Triffid_Hunter: what am I supposed to be looking at here?
[07:03] <anonkun> ok, will do that
[07:03] <Michel> format your USB Drive and copy files at USB
[07:03] <OerHeks> anonkun, never tried it myself ( my pc is windows free) http://askubuntu.com/questions/599746/how-do-i-burn-the-windows-10-iso-to-a-usb
[07:04] <dchapman> deavid: Tried #kubuntu ?
[07:04] <Triffid_Hunter> lunarmage: oh wait I'm in the wrong channel, with ubuntu I usually find I have to start wpa supplicant manually, or wrestle with network manager..
[07:04] <dchapman> !kubuntu
[07:05] <lunarmage> Triffid_Hunter: is there a way to enter the ISO's rescue mode and install network-manager from there
[07:05] <Triffid_Hunter> lunarmage: sure.. mount, chroot, apt-get should work
[07:06] <lunarmage> that's what I was thinking, but I accidentally flashed minimal over my desktop pendrive
[07:12] <Michel> the chanel of ubuntu-gnome ?
[07:17] <askpcguy> goodnight
[07:19] <OnkelTem> Folks, how to configure kbd to emulate cursor keys on letter keys?
[07:19] <OnkelTem> I don't like to jerk my hand to cursor keys and back everytime
[07:20]  * OnkelTem is masters blind type
[07:20] <OnkelTem> s/is//
[07:21] <Triffid_Hunter> OnkelTem: set up your keyboard map to put ijkl + super_5 as arrow keys or something like that.. I've never done it before but that's where I'd start looking
[07:21] <deavid> found it: some bug saves something in the session that can't be read later. I removed .local/share/kate and now it works again.
[07:22] <OnkelTem> Triffid_Hunter: yeah, but I don't really know how to do that on Ubuntu (but KDE here). Or I can just configure my X kbd?
[07:23] <Triffid_Hunter> OnkelTem: yeah X kbd, don't think keyboard layout has much to do with WM, they usually just provide convenience methods to access it
[07:25] <abel_de> has anyone tried cryptsetup?
[07:25] <auronandace> !anyone
[07:25] <OerHeks> abel_de, if so, what would be your next question?
[07:25] <abel_de> i meant from the command line
[07:26] <abel_de> i have the problem that after i do a a luksFormat, the media is mounted automatically
[07:26] <abel_de> before i do a format and luksOpen
[07:26] <OnkelTem> Triffid_Hunter: I remember why I switched to KDE - because ubunty manager (one of) seemed to override everything what I configured at lower level (particularly - layout switching)
[07:26] <abel_de> am using a 15.04 version Ubuntu
[07:27] <auronandace> abel_de: no longer supported
[07:27] <OerHeks> support for 15.04 ended 3 months ago ..
[07:27] <abel_de> oh
[07:28] <abel_de> so i have to upgrade it to LTS 16.04 version or can i also use 15.10?
[07:28] <ph88> does anyone know how to fix this package installation?  http://pastebin.com/B5xm99uh
[07:28] <Triffid_Hunter> OnkelTem: ah, that sounds infuriating :/ I have my keyboard set for us-intl but switches to greek when I hold capslock, can't imagine how to set that up in any sort of ubuntu-flavoured gui
[07:28] <auronandace> abel_de: better 16.04, 15.10 doesn't have long to go
[07:28] <OerHeks> upgrading to 16.04 brings you 15.10 first.. both are supported.
[07:29] <cristian_c> hi
[07:29] <cristian_c> I've tried to start my own .service file, but when I use systemctl start myservice.service, I don't see my service in the task manager
[07:30] <cristian_c> I've also tried systemctl status myservice.service, but I can't figure out what is the issue
[07:30] <cristian_c> I've looked also at syslog, but I can't figure out what is the issue
[07:30] <OnkelTem> Triffid_Hunter: +1. Suffered from the same hell with russian layout on (beloved) Gnome 3 which had layout switching broken in the version addopted for the 14.x of ubuntu
[07:30] <cristian_c> Any ideas?
[07:30] <OnkelTem> adopted*
[07:31] <abel_de> so is like 16.04 stable?
[07:32] <aavrug> How can I copy file1 content to file2 just before the last line.
[07:32] <OnkelTem> Triffid_Hunter: (using Caps - for the first and Shift+Caps for the last layout modal switching)
[07:32] <abel_de> i mean my wallch crashed a couple of times with 14.04 LTS
[07:33] <abel_de> airmon also caused problems
[07:34] <cristian_c> aavrug: you could use head command
[07:34] <aavrug> cristian_c, ok let me see
[07:38] <aavrug> cristian_c, It's not working I am writing a shel file from which I am trying to copy a file content to another file in the second last line.
[07:39] <cristian_c> aavrug: what command , exactly, have you tried?
[07:39] <aavrug> cristian_c, cp, sed and the last one head which you suggest. :)
[07:39] <cristian_c> aavrug: I don't know what syntax you've tried
[07:40] <aavrug> cristian_c, head -2 $file1 $file2
[07:40] <aavrug> cristian_c, sed '$i$file1' $file2
[07:40] <cristian_c> aavrug: have you tried the single head command (without cp and sed)?
[07:41] <aavrug> cristian_c, yes I am using single command at a time.
[07:41] <cristian_c> aavrug: have you tried to replacw the $file variables with real filenames?
[07:42] <aavrug> cristian_c, Since I am using bash shell so just $file representing the variable and it is replacing internally.
[07:43] <aavrug> cristian_c, And I am getting the data as output but not getting overwritten in the file.
[07:43] <cristian_c> 'not working' <- what does the command print?
[07:44] <cristian_c> aavrug: ah, ok, do you see the content printed in the shell, right?
[07:44] <cristian_c> in place of target file
[07:44] <aavrug> cristian_c, yes
[07:46] <callipygous> hi, having issues getting app center to work. It's just not working.  When I try to open it via a terminal I get this message:
[07:47] <callipygous> (ubuntu-software:2766): Gs-WARNING **: failed to open plugin /usr/lib/gs-plugins-9/libgs_plugin_xdg_app_reviews.so: /usr/lib/gs-plugins-9/libgs_plugin_xdg_app_reviews.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[07:47] <cristian_c> aavrug: you've made a mistake
[07:47] <aavrug> cristian_c, yea I know that's what I am trying to debug :P
[07:48] <callipygous> This is a fresh install of Ubuntu, too
[07:48] <cristian_c> aavrug: head -n -1 $file1 > $file2
[07:49] <cristian_c> aavrug: using the 'redirect' char
[07:50] <cristian_c> callipygous: what issues have you encountered?
[07:50] <aavrug> cristian_c, Still not working It is overiding the contents of file I need to append in the second last line :)
[07:50] <callipygous> software centre fails to start
[07:50] <cristian_c> aavrug: head -n -1 $file1 >> $file2
[07:50] <callipygous> I'll try removing cache dir
[07:51] <callipygous> nope
[07:51] <callipygous> no cache dir
[07:51] <cristian_c> aavrug: -1 means 'all the lines except the last line'
[07:52] <aavrug> cristian_c, wait let me show you the file.
[07:52] <cristian_c> !paste | callipygous
[07:53] <callipygous> Did I paste a multi line text?
[07:53] <cristian_c> aavrug: would you like to copy all the first file lines?
[07:53] <cristian_c> callipygous: is it the full command output?
[07:53] <aavrug> cristian_c, please see this https://gist.github.com/aavrug/f555d8dd809834e176b8c1f14453c8f2
[07:54] <callipygous> what I posted above, yes
[07:54] <aavrug> cristian_c, yes but in the second file it should write in the second last line.
[07:54] <cristian_c> aavrug: ok, head command is useless
[07:55] <aavrug> cristian_c, then what I can use?
[07:55] <callipygous> well, I'll try again in the morning
[07:55] <cristian_c> callipygous: it seems only a warning
[07:55] <callipygous> well, it's not loading
[07:55] <callipygous> and yes, seems like a warning
[07:56] <cristian_c> callipygous: sudo apt-get update
[07:56] <callipygous> ok
[07:56] <Javezim> Anyone know how to tell Unattended Upgrades to NOT update Samba in Ubuntu 14.04.4
[07:56] <callipygous> nope :(
[07:57] <kriszta3> who can drive me to new york ?
[07:57] <liu_beintu> :)
[07:57] <liu_beintu> me i guess kriszta3
[07:57] <callipygous> ok try later
[07:57] <callipygous> thanks
[07:58] <kriszta3> thankyou liu
[07:58] <cristian_c> aavrug: you shoukd use awk command
[07:58] <liu_beintu> you're welcome kriszta3
[07:58] <kriszta3> but how can you visibel ?
[07:58] <cristian_c> !paste | callipygous
[08:14] <aavrug> cristian_c, Let me try with awk :)
[08:40] <aavrug> How can I use the sed command with "sed -i 's/hello4/<document></document>/g' $file2"?
[08:41] <joselu> pene
[08:41] <miembroviril> _Trullo: hi
[08:42] <miembroviril> joselu: hola
[08:42] <s33se> j #gvm
[08:43] <joselu> abel_de:explosive:Hi
[08:43] <aladiah> hello! after a somewhere 15.10 updates, a packard bell laptop keyboard and mouse dont work anymore! Even if start a live usb on it . . no way keyboard and moouse work, e but it does on Toshiba Sattellite. What can i do ?
[08:45] <jatt> replace the mouse and keyboard
[08:45] <aladiah> no way it work perfectly on windows. LAptop have dualboot
[08:46] <c1_> whats the curl command to post to a url?
[08:50] <EriC^^> c1_: to paste somethign?
[08:52] <jatt> man curl
[08:52] <EriC^^> no homo
[08:53] <murad> Hello
[08:53] <joselu> comeme el prepucio
[08:53] <EriC^^> joselu: habla espangol?
[08:54] <joselu> español cabezon
[08:54] <EriC^^> !es | joselu
[08:54] <joselu> pero que me estas contando loco
[08:54] <murad> How can i start using perl in xampp?
[08:54] <joselu> OMG
[08:54] <joselu> STOP ENGLSIH
[08:54] <joselu> FK U BRO
[08:55] <EriC^^> joselu: what's up?
[08:55] <murad> How can i start using perl in xampp?
[08:55] <abel_de> mode abel +x
[08:55] <c1_> EriC^^, yes
[08:55] <EriC^^> c1_: something |& curl -F "sprunge=<-" sprunge.us
[08:55] <murad> AHHHHH
[08:55] <murad> , yes
[08:55] <c1_> EriC^^, thank you
[08:55] <murad> How can i start using perl in xampp?
[08:55] <EriC^^> c1_: no problem
[08:55] <murad> FUFUFUFU
[08:56] <dryblow> What is the best filesystem for root partition on ssd for maximium performance?
[08:56] <Seveas> murad: xampp is unsupported and on Ubuntu quite useless. Just install the relevant webserver packages.
[08:56] <merlim> this is channel for support ubuntu using what language???
[08:56] <EriC^^> dryblow: ext4 is pretty can't go wrong with it i think
[08:56] <EriC^^> merlim: english
[08:57] <merlim> thks
[08:57] <aavrug> How to use file conents as replacement string in sed?
[08:57] <EriC^^> aavrug: maybe sed 's@something@$(cat file)@'
[08:57] <aavrug> sed -i -e '/fox/{r f.html' -e 'd}' f1.txt but it's not working.
[08:58] <dryblow> EriC^^, I'm running on ext4 but I was read btrfs is better for solid state drives
[08:58] <EriC^^> dryblow: /join #btrfs and ask
[08:58] <EriC^^> or ##linux
[08:58] <merlim> murad: search on google xamp stack support and run perl file
[08:58] <murad> Someone know how to use perl in xampp?
[08:58] <Seveas> murad: as I said, don't use xampp. It's pointless.
[08:59] <murad> Seveas, WHY?
[08:59] <Seveas> !xampp
[09:00] <dryblow> EriC^^, thanks
[09:00] <EriC^^> dryblow: no problem
[09:00] <aavrug> EriC^^, It's just giving output in terminal not replacing the file contents.
[09:00] <Seveas> install a webserver, and whatever you need for your perl app. If it's cgi, you probably don't need anything extra. If it needs psgi, you'll need to set up something like uwsgi or starman.
[09:00] <Seveas> aavrug: sed -i
[09:00] <EriC^^> aavrug: ok, no idea
[09:01] <Seveas> oh, you had -i. That's weird, that shouldn't output to terminal.
[09:01] <murad> Seveas, i installed xampp for mysql, php. XAMPP says that he have perl, but perl is not running.
[09:01] <aavrug> Seveas, still it's just printing $(cat test1.txt) in the file as content
[09:01] <aavrug> not the file contents
[09:02] <merlim> murad:  the simple mode is install perl interpreted  standalone on machine
[09:02] <Seveas> aavrug: ah, if you switched to that technique, you'll need to use double quotes
[09:02] <Seveas> murad: good. Now remove xampp and read that wikipage.
[09:02] <aavrug> EriC^^, no probs thanks :)
[09:02] <merlim> end use on php scripts the script shell_exec()
[09:02] <EriC^^> aavrug: :)
[09:03] <aavrug> Seveas, sed: -e expression #1, char 14: unterminated `s' command
[09:03] <anonkun> I made a bootable ntfs disk
[09:03] <EriC^^> aavrug: what command are you using?
[09:03] <aavrug> Seveas, trying this sed -i "s@hello4@$(cat test1.txt)@" test2.txt
[09:03] <Seveas> aavrug: I was afraid of that. That technique only works if the file you're reading contains no special characters
[09:03] <murad> i don't like a perl but to have a job i need fucking perl.
[09:03] <Seveas> murad: no swearing in here.
[09:03] <anonkun> I made a bootable ntfs usb. I copied all the windows.iso contents to it. When I boot it, I just get a black screen with a cursor. How do I fix this
[09:04] <Seveas> anonkun: try ##windows
[09:04] <aavrug> Seveas, the any idea?
[09:04] <anonkun> oh, but I am doing this from linux
[09:04] <aavrug> *then
[09:04] <anonkun> Seveas: I want to make a bootable windows usb from linux
[09:04] <Seveas> aavrug: I'm not that fluent in sed, sorry
[09:04] <aavrug> Seveas, no probs :)
[09:04] <Seveas> anonkun: doesn't matter. It's the windows thing that doesn't boot, we can't help with that :)
[09:04] <anonkun> true
[09:04] <murad> Seveas, oh, ok)
[09:05] <Jordan_U> !winusb | anonkun
[09:05] <anonkun> WinUSB no longer works for windows 10.
[09:05] <anonkun> i'm afraid
[09:06] <merlim> murad: https://source4all.wordpress.com/2009/10/15/execute-perl-scirpt-in-xampp/
[09:07] <aavrug> Got a fixing sed -i -e '/hello4/{r test1.txt' -e 'd}' test2.txt don't know why it was not working previously :)
[09:07] <Seveas> merlim: that's an old, and quite stupid post, that's not even for Ubuntu...
[09:08] <murad> ok, no one can help me.
[09:08] <Seveas> murad: not until you use software we support.
[09:08] <merlim> this is base for solved the problem, whatever ubuntu or not
[09:09] <merlim> this is show running perl on LAMP
[09:09] <Jordan_U> merlim: I understand you're trying to help, but please don't give any support for xampp in #ubuntu.
[09:09] <aavrug> Seveas, a small help how to pass regex for </virtualhost> in search?
[09:09] <kisb> we use lamp
[09:10] <murad> I have a lampp not xampp.
[09:10] <Seveas> aavrug: sed -s s!</virtualhost>!Ponies!
[09:10] <merlim> Jordan_U: ok :)
[09:10] <aavrug> Seveas, sed -i -e '/</virtualhost>/{r test1.txt' -e 'd}' test2.txt but it giving error
[09:11] <Seveas> aavrug: that's why I used !..!..!
[09:11] <Seveas> if you want to use /, you'll have to escape the / in </virtualhost
[09:11] <aavrug> Seveas, sed -i -e '!</virtualhost>!{r test1.txt' -e 'd}' test2.txt but it giving error
[09:11] <Seveas> s/<\/virutalhost>/Ponies/
[09:11] <aavrug> ^^ the above one is right?
[09:11] <kisb> instead of /../../
[09:12] <kisb> use !..!..!
[09:12] <merlim> murad: man use o how to with example for your case man, try modify path for .so  and moduless man
[09:12] <aavrug> kisb, how to write this sed -i -e '/</virtualhost>/{r test1.txt' -e 'd}' test2.txt?
[09:13] <Jakey31> is there a way to check the hash for my lubuntu download
[09:13] <Seveas> sed -i -e '/<\/virtualhost>/{r test1.txt' -e 'd}' test2.txt
[09:13] <Seveas> Jakey31: md5sum foo.iso or sha1sum foo.iso
[09:13] <Seveas> depending on which checksum is published for lubuntu :)
[09:13] <Jakey31> yes where are the actual ones kept
[09:13] <Jakey31> so i can reference them
[09:14] <aavrug> Seveas, great finally got the soultion
[09:14] <Seveas> Jakey31: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/lubuntu/releases/16.04/release/
[09:14] <Seveas> next to the iso :)
[09:14] <Jakey31> thanks
[09:14] <kisb> when mint was hacked, could the md5sum show that it had been hacked???
[09:15] <Seveas> maybe
[09:15] <Seveas> depends on how you check it
[09:15] <Seveas> the md5sums files for ubuntu are gpg-signed, so you'll need to check that too
[09:16] <ldsh> Hi, just had a strange problem (I don't know if it can be related to Ubuntu, but I start to search here as it is my OS).
[09:16] <Seveas> if mint didn't do that, the hacker could have just replaced the md5sums file as well :)
[09:17] <ldsh> I was clicking on a menu inside my browser (firefox), and everything froze (image fixed, sound repeating in loop).
[09:18] <Seveas> sounds like a hanging graphics card. Sadly not unheard of
[09:18] <ldsh> After a bit of time, the computer reboot itself, but nothing on the screen (not leaving sleep mode)
[09:19] <mariana> Hello. How can I disable bluetooth and prevent auto switch on when manual radios key is pressed in my laptop? (ubuntu lts 12.4)
[09:19] <ldsh> Testing with a laptop (with addaptor from mini dp), the DVI port of the screen seems dead and the VGA is limited to low resolution.
[09:20] <Seveas> ldsh: what kind of graphics card?
[09:20] <abel_de> hello
[09:21] <Seveas> mariana: depends on the laptop make and model. For some you can hard disable bluetooth in the bios
[09:21] <ldsh> But on the desktop (where the problem occurred), DVI to DVI nor DVI to VGA nor HDMI to DVI works, so seems the DVI in use during the crash is also dead.
[09:21] <abel_de> hello
[09:21] <ldsh> Seveas, Nvidia 980 Ti
[09:22] <Seveas> ldsh: there are open source and proprietary drivers for that one. Try switching to the one you're not currently using :)
[09:22] <abel_de> has anyone had problems with wallch
[09:22] <abel_de> ?
[09:22] <ldsh> Seveas, I need a screen to switch anything. I was using the proprietary drivers.
[09:23] <Seveas> ldsh: you mean even after physically removing power from the machine and plugging it back in, you get nothing?
[09:24] <ldsh> What puzzle me is that it seems to be material damages on both sides (screen and desktop)
[09:24] <phiona> can i get support here for linux lite? just asking.
[09:24] <auronandace|work> phiona: no
[09:24] <kisb> you will just get people asking what is linux lite
[09:24] <ldsh> Seveas, yep, I tried unplugging everything, wait a bit and boot again, but no display at all (not even the bios).
[09:26] <phiona> auronandace: where can i get support for linux lite?
[09:26] <ldsh> Seveas, but as the screen seem impacted (only the vga on lower resolution still works), maybe I should try an other screen.
[09:26] <auronandace|work> !alis | phiona
[09:26] <lerner> can I whois an ip address from the cli?
[09:27] <tales> I need some help
[09:27] <tales> Pleeez
[09:27] <aavrug> Seveas, thanks a lot :)
[09:27] <tales> Trying to get keryx to run on my ubuntu
[09:27] <ldsh> Seveas, But I'm not that eager to ask a mate to borrow one if there is a risk killing his screen too.
[09:27] <tales> but it just wont load
[09:28] <Seveas> ldsh: ok, that doesn't sound like an ubuntu issue then, more of a hardware problem
[09:28] <merlim> mariana: are u from, then u try disabled auto load bluetooth modules on boot
[09:29] <lerner> apt install and apt-get install. whats the difference?
[09:29] <kisb> apt is new and improved
[09:29] <ldsh> Seveas, I'm also trying to understand how this happened, because the desktop seems to have also been impacted (It reboot by itself)
[09:29] <ldsh> Seveas, and the sky is clear blue, no storm ...
[09:30] <mariana> merlin: thanks... disabling auto load on boot... i will have to study that
[09:30] <ldsh> (I mean no thunder)
[09:30] <ldsh> Seveas, But yeah, maybe I should have a look on #hardware.
[09:31] <phiona> why cant i get support for linux lite here? its  an ubuntu distro from what i read.
[09:31] <auronandace|work> !derivatives | phiona
[09:33] <phiona> auronandace: #linuxlite has no one in there.
[09:33] <Seveas> phiona: that doesn't make it supported in here :)
[09:34] <ldsh> Seveas, It is also to notice that the sound (which is manage by the motherboard) was also hanging during the freeze (last sound repeating).
[09:35] <merlim> mariana: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Loadable_Modules
[09:36] <tales> how to i load ubuntu-restricted-addons/extras without having internet on my home pc, which has ubuntu
[09:37] <tales> i cant get keryx to load on ubuntu cus dont have wxversion python
[09:37] <tales> ive done wat i can through the terminal but it refuses to update through keryx
[09:37] <lotuspsychje> tales: at one point you will have to update sometime
[09:38] <tales> gonna have to just take my pc to somewhere with internet i guess
[09:38] <lotuspsychje> tales: can you go to a public wifi or so?
[09:38] <ducasse> tales: apt-offline
[09:38] <tales> its just a mission to take my desktop places
[09:39] <lotuspsychje> tales: your online right now? backup some stuff you need
[09:39] <tales> oh do i do that without running keryx
[09:39] <tales> im on my work pc, which only has windows installed
[09:39] <tales> but has internet
[09:40] <ldsh> phiona, https://www.linuxliteos.com/forums/on-topic/irc-support-closed/
[09:40] <lotuspsychje> tales: download the .deb files you need, put on stick and install @ home
[09:40] <phiona> Seveas: what if i say im running ubuntu but in reality im really running linux lite can you help me then ?
[09:40] <tales> but i did that and it doesnt load on my ubuntu, still wants to download it
[09:41] <kisb> phiona, lol lets pretend ur running Ubuntu
[09:41] <lotuspsychje> tales: perhaps you need all dependecies aswell
[09:41] <Seveas> phiona: I suggest you go away now.
[09:41] <lotuspsychje> phiona: make you life easy, and install an ubuntu version from our topic
[09:41] <Seveas> or what lotuspsychje said
[09:42] <tales> lets take restricted-extras for example, how do i get the entire thing, its abt 9mb or so. but the .deb file is like 3kb
[09:42] <CyberJacob> Does uk.archive.ubuntu.com have rate limiting? I'm getting Connection refused from it
[09:42] <tales> this south african internet shit is driving me nuts
[09:43] <lotuspsychje> tales: apt-get download ubuntu-restricted-extras
[09:43] <lotuspsychje> CyberJacob: firewall, router or proxy?
[09:43] <ldsh> phiona, So either it is Linux Lite specific and you use their forum as they kindly ask, either it is something else and you find a channel concerned bu this something else specifically.
[09:43] <EriC^^> tales: what are you trying to do?
[09:44] <CyberJacob> lotuspsychje: no outbound filtering on the firewall, no proxy, and other boxes on the same LAN work fine
[09:44] <tales> that wont work without internet lotuspsychje ?
[09:44] <lotuspsychje> CyberJacob: ok, try asking the #ubuntu-mirrors channel for known issues perhaps
[09:44] <tales> trying to install updates EriC^^ , without having internet on my home pc, which has my ubuntu
[09:44] <tales> i have tried the keryx way
[09:45] <CyberJacob> lotuspsychje: think I found the issue
[09:45] <CyberJacob> PING uk.archive.ubuntu.com (127.0.0.1)
[09:45] <tales> and its not working on my ubuntu cus i dont have wxversion python installed
[09:45] <tales> maybe i should just install ubuntu on my work pc along side windows7
[09:45] <ducasse> tales: take a look at apt-offline, it's supposed to have a windows client also. it will create a list of all packages you need so you can download them elsewhere
[09:46] <bishops> Anyone one knows how to set up tomdroid to sync with dropbox and tomboy? I just don't get it..
[09:46] <tales> hmm ok will have a look now ducasse
[09:47] <bodom> Hi there. After last upgrade, I cannot use GPG anymore: it always fails
[09:48] <EriC^^> bodom: paste errors
[09:49] <bodom> EriC^^: by example, Enigmail says "Couldn't send message", it does not ever ask for passphrase
[09:50] <tales> this is looking promising ducasse
[09:50] <bodom> EriC^^: kmymoneky says "The following error was encountered while descripting file <filename>: Decription failed"
[09:53] <ducasse> tales: it works great and will do just what you need.
[09:53] <kriszta3> inkabb pihenj
[09:54] <WoodyPC> I have a script I want to run and I open Terminal and I go to the directory with the file. Then I type sudo ./filename.sh....I get an error. I think it is because the filename is 2 words with a <space> between them. Is there a workaround for this error?
[09:55] <kriszta3> inkabb pihenj
[09:57] <merlim> WoodyPC: u not have permission for rename the file????
[09:57] <WoodyPC> merlin: not really.
[09:57] <mcphail> WoodyPC: escape the space with a backslash e.g. "./file\ name.sh"
[09:57] <Guest33954> How to install staruml for ubuntu from .deb package ?
[09:58] <Guest33954> Please script the commands to install its dependencies as well.
[09:58] <WoodyPC> trying that now
[09:58] <Guest33954> libgcrypt11 I think with latest version
[09:59] <lotuspsychje_> Guest33954: where did you download this package?
[09:59] <Guest33954> internet
[09:59] <merlim> WoodyPC: but u exec the file permission??? try copy and paste from new file without space????
[10:00] <mcphail> merlim: there is no need to rename the file
[10:00] <ducasse> WoodyPC: either escape the space or quote the filename
[10:00] <lotuspsychje_> Guest33954: ask the maintainer of the website
[10:01] <WoodyPC> ducasse: quote the filename?
[10:01] <lotuspsychje_> Guest33954: http://staruml.io/support
[10:01] <merlim> mcphail: ok, so ./xxx\ /yyy ???
[10:01] <mcphail> merlim: ./xxx\ yyy
[10:02] <ducasse> WoodyPC: yeah, like "./file name.sh"
[10:02] <merlim> mcphail: thks
[10:02] <merlim> :)
[10:02] <WoodyPC> ducasse: oh...trying now
[10:02] <Guest33954> you just need to provide the dpkg command and way to install libgcrypt11.
[10:03] <Guest33954> I'll do the rest.
[10:03] <merlim> WoodyPC: tell if works
[10:05] <MonkeyDust> Guest33954  rrrrrrrrrsudo dpkg -i [package]
[10:06] <MonkeyDust> Guest33954  sudo dpkg -i [package]
[10:07] <WoodyPC> Hey yall, Putting the " marks around the name work great. Thanks. Been trying since yesterday to make this work.
[10:08] <ducasse> WoodyPC: you can also do this: ./file\ name.sh
[10:08] <Emrederseniz> hi there
[10:08] <Guest33954> But for that I would have to first install the dependency libgcrypt11. Where to find that?
[10:08] <lotuspsychje_> !info libgcrypt11-dev | Guest33954
[10:10] <WoodyPC> ducasse: Yeah, I am making myself a small text file on my desktop for just these, hard-for-me-to-remember, commands.
[10:12] <MonkeyDust> WoodyPC  same here, i have that too
[10:12] <sammydark1> blackjid: explosive: hi
[10:13] <sammydark1> BlackDex: /query usuario
[10:13] <WoodyPC> For those of you that are using 16.04 adready...Did they change the look very much? You know, like the appearance between 14.04 and 16.04?
[10:13] <lotuspsychje_> sammydark1: can we help you?
[10:14] <lotuspsychje_> WoodyPC: most things changed are under the hood
[10:14] <lotuspsychje_> WoodyPC: depends also wich flavor you want
[10:14] <sammydark1> im just doing some test thank you
[10:14] <lotuspsychje_> sammydark1: please not here
[10:15] <MonkeyDust> sammydark1  type /j #test
[10:15] <sammydark1> im finish
[10:15] <sammydark1> :)
[10:15] <Mao> does anyone know with what app i can share my wifi from ubuntu laptop
[10:15] <WoodyPC> lotuspsychje: whichever is LTS
[10:15] <lotuspsychje_> !flavors | WoodyPC
[10:16] <MonkeyDust> !ics | Mao
[10:16] <lotuspsychje_> WoodyPC: lots of ubuntu flavors have LTS
[10:17] <WoodyPC> lotuspsychje: yeah, that was a joke. must have been a bad one on my part. lol
[10:17] <Mao> well i wanna share wifi from laptop to tablet or android
[10:18] <lotuspsychje_> WoodyPC: just meaning that the 16.04 changes depend on wich flavor
[10:18] <WoodyPC> lotuspsychje: Well, I am a regular old Ubuntu guy.
[10:19] <lotuspsychje> WoodyPC: so you wanted to know changes on ubuntu-desktop?
[10:20] <Trusty_1404> is there a chat where chicks are on to flirt?
[10:21] <lotuspsychje> Trusty_1404: not here
[10:21] <WoodyPC> lotuspsychje: just curious. I have gotten used to 14.04 appearance and was wondering if it was going to be a Whole new experience. You know like completely starting over.
[10:22] <lotuspsychje> WoodyPC: no 16.04 looks pretty same then 14.04 on unity, but there are some GUI changes yes
[10:22] <lotuspsychje> WoodyPC: launcher can be moved to bottom, new gnome-software, faster dash
[10:23] <WoodyPC> lotuspsychje: that's ok too. Nothing wrong with change. I just like to be prepared.
[10:23] <Guest33954> Hey that's a transititional package and look at this http://pastebin.com/rv1U504q
[10:23] <Guest33954> I mean libgcrypt11-dev
[10:24] <lotuspsychje> Guest33954: thats why i suggested you to contact the maintainer of the site
[10:24] <FelAl> Hello! I have a problem with plymouth. This is from plymouth:debug
[10:24] <FelAl> failed to delete fd 11 from epoll watch list Bad file descriptor
[10:24] <lotuspsychje> Guest33954: its not an official ubuntu package, so we dont know its dependecies
[10:25] <FelAl> Desktop just freezes on black screen, after dots
[10:25] <kallo82> Hello , is any one having issues with ubuntu 16.04 when connecting to external monitor
[10:25] <kallo82> laggy mouse
[10:25] <kallo82> sometimes bad resolution to images and text
[10:25] <FelAl> lotuspsychje, so, there is nothing you can advice me?
[10:26] <lotuspsychje> !patience | FelAl
[10:27] <soulisson> Hello, when a vulnerability is disclosed, does the new package provided by Ubuntu contains a new version of the program/library or a patch file applied to current file/executable?
[10:27] <Mao> how can i share wifi on ubuntu  with two  wifi cards ?
[10:27] <lotuspsychje> !usn | soulisson
[10:30] <soulisson> lotuspsychje, I took a look, sorry it doesn't answer my question
[10:30] <WoodyPC> lotuspsychje:
[10:30] <lotuspsychje> soulisson: what do you really want to know exactly?
[10:31] <WoodyPC> lotuspsychje: oops, soory didn't mean to press enter.
[10:31] <soulisson> lotuspsychje, if the security package contains a new version of the program or simple a diff/patch file applied to the current executable like it's often the case on  windows?
[10:32] <lotuspsychje> soulisson: when a security hole is found, new package versions will reach the user
[10:33] <soulisson> lotuspsychje, I know, but does that package contains a patched version of the program or diff file applied to current executable ?
[10:34] <WoodyPC> lotuspsychje: I was going to ask you about a .sh thing, but I found the answer on help.ubuntu.com.
[10:34] <auronandace|work> soulisson: i think ubuntu does the whole package, whereas fedora likes doing deltas
[10:34] <soulisson> auronandace|work, ok, so for ubuntu the new patched version of the  program, right?
[10:34] <ldsh> soulisson, I guess the binaries are replaced by new ones (Ubuntu is not a source distribution), but I don't know for the scripts.
[10:35] <soulisson> ldsh, ok, thanks that answered my question
[10:35] <Guest65779> Hey, \please suggest me a package for wikipedia offline.
[10:36] <Guest65779> Any size
[10:36] <lotuspsychje> soulisson: for deeper investigation try #ubuntu-hardened
[10:36] <soulisson> lotuspsychje, ok, thanks
[10:36] <Guest65779> priority to large
[10:36] <mcphail> soulisson: binaries are not patched in place, and must be restarted after updating
[10:37] <mothbug> how do i update flashplayer in terminal
[10:37] <soulisson> mcphail, I guess this is mainly because the main binaries are already loaded in memory, right ?
[10:38] <mcphail> soulisson: indeed. The bigger issue is with libraries. it can be difficult to know which programs need restarted when a dependent library is updated
[10:38] <mcphail> soulisson: sometimes (such as in the glibc vulnerability) the only way to be sure is to reboot
[10:38] <lotuspsychje> mothbug: use the ubuntu updates to update packages in your system
[10:38] <soulisson> mcphail, I guess, you have to do some scripting fu on /proc/<pids>maps :)
[10:39] <soulisson> mcphail, yes, glibc is used every where :)
[10:39] <mcphail> soulisson: there are lots of scripts for that kind of thing, but none of them work 100% imho
[10:39] <soulisson> mcphail, you're probably right, I never had to handle those kind of things
[10:39] <Guest65779> Anyone please
[10:40] <mcphail> It is a well documented debian (and its derivatives) weakness, and often overlooked
[10:40] <mothbug> how?
[10:40] <lotuspsychje> Guest65779: best to re-ask your issue once in a while to the channel, all in one line and stay patient
[10:40] <mothbug> it says my system is up to date
[10:40] <soulisson> mcphail, but yeah, since executable and libraries are mapped in memory, the safer way is either to restart the executable or restart the system
[10:40] <lotuspsychje> mothbug: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[10:41] <mothbug> did that
[10:41] <lotuspsychje> mothbug: if system is up to date, your good to go
[10:41] <MonkeyDust> mothbug  what bings you here
[10:41] <Guest65779> Hey, please suggest me a package for wikipedia offline.
[10:41] <MonkeyDust> brings*
[10:41] <mothbug> youtube is still saying Get the latest Flash Player
[10:41] <MonkeyDust> Guest65779  zim
[10:42] <MonkeyDust> !zim | Guest65779
[10:42] <soulisson> mcphail, I ever a question let's say I patched my apache and restarted the apache service, do you know if the system is going to map the new executable or use the old mapping since there are already instances of apache running?
[10:42] <mothbug> I'm try to update Flash Player
[10:42] <mothbug> (trying to)
[10:42] <MonkeyDust> !info zim | Guest65779
[10:42] <lotuspsychje> mothbug: adobe flash for linux is dead, try an alternative
[10:43] <lotuspsychje> mothbug: html5 video's, chromium + pepperflash, firefox + freshplayer
[10:43] <mcphail> soulisson: I think apache is restarted automatically by apt, so all instances get refreshes automatically. Not 100% sure though
[10:43] <mothbug> I'm using firefox
[10:44] <Guest65779> I'm troubled installing updates.
[10:44] <soulisson> mcphail, thanks, have to investigate on that
[10:44] <Guest65779> required for some package
[10:44] <lotuspsychje> !details | Guest65779
[10:44] <mothbug> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rKQonaSLFDQ
[10:44] <mcphail> soulisson: problem comes when there is an update to some library apache needs. Sometimes apache will be restarted automatically, sometimes the connection will be too byzantine for apt to realise it needs to restart
[10:45] <mothbug> it's only saying that for this 1 video
[10:45] <lotuspsychje> mothbug: working like a charm here
[10:45] <lotuspsychje> mothbug: ubuntu version?
[10:46] <MonkeyDust> mothbug  what's the outcome of   cat /etc/issue
[10:46] <Guest65779> watch this http://pastebin.com/Pvg1f33F
[10:46] <soulisson> mcphail, even if apache is restarted I'm not sure at all the latest version of apache is mapped in memory, if it's not the case, I need to kill all the instances of the program ...
[10:46] <lotuspsychje> !eol | Guest65779
[10:47] <mothbug> 16.04
[10:47] <MonkeyDust> Guest65779  vivid is dead, you're working with a corpse
[10:47] <lotuspsychje> Guest65779: install a supported version from topic please
[10:48] <brym> trying to create a storage pool on a gvfs share, but i'm getting permission denied every time.
[10:48] <lotuspsychje> mothbug: try installing browser-plugin-freshplayer-pepperflash
[10:48] <brym> anyone had this issue before?
[10:49] <MonkeyDust> brym  my nas is mounted in gvfs ... are you using a nas?
[10:49] <MonkeyDust> brym  if you don't know, then no
[10:49] <brym> MonkeyDust, yep. i can cd through it fine, nautilus around it fine. but vmm refuses to create a new pool
[10:50] <Guest65779> Help me to backup. Any easy way so that I can try another.
[10:50] <MonkeyDust> Guest65779  rsync is quick, start with luckybackup, a rsync gui
[10:51] <MonkeyDust> brym  vmm? virtual machine?
[10:51] <brym> MonkeyDust, yeah
[10:51] <lotuspsychje> MonkeyDust: nice+ on luckybackyp, didnt know that1
[10:51] <MonkeyDust> brym  can your vm see the nas on its ip address?
[10:52] <MonkeyDust> lotuspsychje  we're here to learn
[10:52] <Dro> whats the normal permissions of /var/cache and /var/log ? I changed it by error to 777 (chmod 777 -R /var/cache) ..
[10:52] <MonkeyDust> lotuspsychje  i use luckybackup for the syntax it generates, to learn more about rsync
[10:53] <Guest65779> If I use the same system to upgrade would there be a need to create backup. If no, please script the commands to do the same.
[10:54] <MonkeyDust> Guest65779  a backup is always handy
[10:54] <brym> MonkeyDust, i haven't created the vm yet. i wanted to create a new pool on the nas as i'm limited for space on my primary drive.
[10:54] <Guest65779> You mean for reliability reasons
[10:55] <apg> is there any effort made these days to port ubuntu 16.04 launcher feature that is capable to be reposition to bottom of screen to ubuntu 14.04?
[10:55] <MonkeyDust> brym  so you want install ubuntu on the nas?
[10:56] <apg> *repositioned
[10:56] <brym> MonkeyDust, no, just a new storage pool. then i can create vm's to be run from the nas.
[10:56] <MonkeyDust> apg  no, not in 14.04
[10:56] <mcphail> apg: it is highly unlikely new features will be coming to 14.04, unless they bring security fixes
[10:57] <MonkeyDust> brym  ah ok, i have that on a diff partition, but same hdd
[10:58] <MonkeyDust> brym  are you able to create folders on the nas? if so, use nfs to mount them on your actual system
[10:58] <apg> MonkeyDust mcphail so what is that backport repository for?
[10:59] <MonkeyDust> brym  then you should be able to run a vm from the nas
[11:00] <brym> MonkeyDust, thanks. i'll look into this and come back if i get stuck again.
[11:01] <MonkeyDust> brym  go look in   /run/user/1000/ ... find the nas mount there, you can mount them again to a more convenient place, with mount -b or so
[11:04] <ali_> sorry but I forgot how to register
[11:04] <ali_> in irc
[11:04] <auronandace|work> apg: any updated applications that get packaged for that release
[11:04] <mcphail> apg: backports are not offered by default, are dangerous and do not come with guaranteed security support. Nor is there any expectation that all apps and libraries will be backported. If you want 16.04 goodness, the best way is to install 16.04
[11:05] <auronandace|work> !register | ali_
[11:05] <apg> Okay, thank you
[11:05] <ali_> thnks
[11:05] <mcphail> apg: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuBackports is worth a read
[11:07] <blackbird_> Hi, the update manager still don't suggest the 16.04 (Xenial Xerus), is that normal ?
[11:07] <bekks> Yes.
[11:07] <auronandace|work> !ltsupgrade | blackbird_
[11:08] <blackbird_> Ok thanks
[11:11] <soulisson> Hi, is there a utility to check if an inode is currently used or free?
[11:12] <MonkeyDust> soulisson  start with df -i
[11:13] <soulisson> MonkeyDust, I would have to specify an inode number
[11:14] <bekks> soulisson: Whats the problem behind your initial questionß
[11:15] <MonkeyDust> soulisson  ls -i maybe
[11:15] <blackbird_> soulisson, may be that will help you : http://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/117093/find-where-inodes-are-being-used
[11:15] <frostschutz> soulisson, depends on the filesystem, for ext* have a look at debugfs
[11:15] <soulisson> bekks, my  understanding when a process runs and the file is deleted, the file is unlinked however the inode and the space used by the file are still marked as used, I would like to check this
[11:16] <bekks> soulisson: The reference to the inode is delete, flag in the inode is set marking it as deleted, and the data referenced by the inode is untouched.
[11:16] <bekks> *deleted
[11:17] <frostschutz> soulisson, files still in use by processes you can probably see with lsof
[11:18] <soulisson> bekks, sorry but if the inode is marked as deleted it means that the inode is free and can be reused,  no?
[11:18] <bekks> soulisson: Correct.
[11:19] <soulisson> bekks, but if the file is an executable currently used by a process, it can not be marked as free, since the process still uses it
[11:19] <bekks> soulisson: Of course it can be marked as free in the references TO the inode, but the flag INSIDE the inode is set when the file lock locking the particular inode is released.
[11:21] <soulisson> bekks, so in the inode, the free flag is not set
[11:21] <bekks> soulisson: Correct. That will happen when file lock is released.
[11:21] <bekks> soulisson: Whats the problem behind your question? :)
[11:22] <soulisson> bekks, yep, I would like to have an utility to inspect an inode, more especially to know if it's free or not, in order to test what we said earlier
[11:24] <bekks> soulisson: And what is the reason you want to be sure about that? What are you _actually_ trying to achieve? Recovering files?
[11:25] <rajiv1> I have downloaded gnome-software on ubuntu-mate 16.04 lts. When first time i open it, it was not working. So, i turn off the computer.But now when i turn on the computer it is working properly. Someone please tell me if possible why the gnome-softeare was not working as soon as i installed it.
[11:25] <soulisson> bekks, simply related to my earlier question about patching an executable and whether or not the newer version will be mapped in memory or not, if there are already old instances of the program running and new instances are started
[11:26] <bekks> soulisson: It will not be mapped untile the executable is stopped and then restarted.
[11:27] <soulisson> bekks, it will be mapped because if the old version is deleted and replaced by the newer version because the inode number will change
[11:27] <bekks> It will not be mapped.
[11:27] <bekks> The executable contents are not remapped by just chaning inode contents.
[11:28] <bekks> *changing
[11:28] <bingo> hi.. the capthcha for single sign-on is difficult.  It won't recognise me.  I go register, and it do not know me mail addy.
[11:28] <bekks> bingo: How does it not know your email address?
[11:29] <bingo> i been registered b4
[11:29] <tokam> I have an Samsung Galaxy S3 and it is connected via MTP with my Ubuntu 16.04 machine. I can not move files from one folder to the other but copy works
[11:29] <soulisson> bekks, yes, it will, you can test it
[11:29] <bekks> bingo: And you forgot both your username and email address you registered with?
[11:29] <tokam> so I had to copy files to my HDD and delete them on the smartphone and copy them back to the new location
[11:29] <bekks> soulisson: That would break every executable which is running while updating it.
[11:29] <bingo> bekks I know my mail.
[11:30] <bingo> bekks i use 2 mail accounts, and it do not know either one
[11:30] <soulisson> bekks, no, because it's a new executable with a new inode, however you can't update an executable on disk while being used
[11:30] <bekks> bingo: So none of that adresses was used for registering it.
[11:31] <bekks> soulisson: We are talking about updating a running executable, not starting a new executable after updating it.
[11:31] <bingo> um, Well, i don't use other than the two
[11:31] <bingo> I have re-installed 14.04 a couple times now
[11:31] <bekks> soulisson: And updating means "using the same inodes (more or less)" and not "saving a new file and deleting the old".
[11:33] <bingo> Is there an Online account manager page perhaps?
[11:33] <soulisson> bekks, it depends, from what I understand when updating a program, the package install a new version of the executable and is not doing a diff
[11:34] <ali_> How to check ssd write speeds on ubuntu?
[11:34] <bekks> soulisson: thats placing a new file, not updating the file. Technically, updating involves changing the file, not placing a new file, though the entire process is likely called "Update".
[11:34] <soulisson> bekks, ok, fair enough
[11:34] <ali_> How to check ssd write speeds on ubuntu? any idea? please.
[11:35] <bekks> ali_: the same way as on other linux distributions, and the same way as on regular hdds.
[11:36] <bekks> ali_: Most likely by using bonnie++ and a dataset about two times larger than your RAM.
[11:36] <ali_> have to install bonniee++?
[11:36] <bekks> ali_: Sure.
[11:36] <soulisson> bekks, however my believe when an update is performed ubuntu removes the old files and copies the new one
[11:37] <bekks> soulisson: Yes.
[11:37] <bekks> soulisson: And I still dont see the problem behind that.
[11:37] <mcphail> tokam: that is standard MTP behaviour
[11:37] <saaaa> hi
[11:37] <soulisson> bekks, there is no problem, simply trying to understand how it works
[11:37] <BluesKaj> Hey folks
[11:38] <saaaa> when I lxc launch images:debian/jessie/amd64 c1 I get
[11:38] <saaaa> Retrieving image: 100%
[11:38] <saaaa> error: Error Creating LVM LV for new image: Could not create thin LV named 01d8fd0819dc482ec5e90d04b85a32499f0d0542939079ce9bbe1098d747eef9
[11:38] <bekks> soulisson: Package file is extracted, files are placed into a temporary location, old files are deleted, new files are placed in their final destination.
[11:38] <soulisson> bekks, ok, thanks man
[11:38] <saaaa> before I tried to launch I executed lxc config set storage.lvm_vg_name lxc and  lxc config set storage.lvm_thinpool_name "lxc
[11:39] <bekks> soulisson: And thats a totally different question than "how is an inode deleted".
[11:39] <saaaa> any ideas?
[11:39] <soulisson> bekks, but that's not the question I asked :)
[11:39] <bekks> soulisson: You had problem A, but asked a question about problem B.
[11:40] <soulisson> bekks, no, not really, my initial question was how to check if an inode is currently marked as free,
[11:41] <bekks> soulisson: And your question should have been "how do package updates work" :)
[11:41] <soulisson> bekks, that's what I asked earlier but maybe you weren't there, any way thanks for the help
[11:42] <bekks> soulisson: you're welcome
[11:42] <bingo> yay, I updated at website. And now try software center thingy.
[11:44] <bingo> worked ! like charm.
[11:45] <bingo> ok, uh.. gnome shell 3.10.. whas is that on Trusty?
[11:46] <bingo> is it Mate?
[11:48] <rd_> how do I get a link from a download button?
[11:48] <bekks> rd_: you dont. you need to inspect the sourcecode of the page.
[11:48] <akik> rd_: you could install a plugin in your web browser that can log all http connections
[11:48] <rd_> http://releases.ubuntu.com/16.04/kubuntu-16.04-desktop-amd64.iso.torrent         is this down
[11:49] <MonkeyDust> rd_  yes, unreachable
[11:49] <rd_> bekks: whats the benefit of them doing this?
[11:50] <mcphail> rd_: I get a 404 on that one
[11:50] <rd_> bekks: you used to be able to right click and copy link
[11:50] <rd_> hard to use wget with download buttons :-/
[11:50] <rd_> akik: sound interesting
[11:51] <rd_> akik: namely
[11:51] <rd_> ?
[11:51] <akik> rd_: httpfox for firefox
[11:51] <bekks> rd_: inspect the sourcecode, grab the download link from there.
[11:52] <palcek> hey
[11:52] <palcek> can I ask a question about ubuntu ?
[11:52] <bekks> Sure.
[11:52] <cfhowlett> !ask
[11:52] <palcek> tnx
[11:52] <palcek> and sorry
[11:52] <palcek> I installed ubuntu 14.04
[11:53] <palcek> but before I logged off I forgot to execute sudo usermod -a -G sudo username
[11:53] <palcek> and now my "superuser" does not have the superuser privileges anymore
[11:54] <palcek> is there a way to add a new one without having actual sudo privileges ?
[11:54] <bekks> palcek: the superuser specified while installing has sudo privileges, by default.
[11:54] <bekks> And no, you need root privileges for adding a user.
[11:54] <palcek> i still get the error "user is not in the sudoers file. This incident will be reported"
[11:55] <cfhowlett> bekks, could he boot a live session, chroot his installed OS and modify / add a sudoer?
[11:55] <palcek> that while using the user I specified during installation
[11:55] <rd_> akik: bekks thanks :-)
[11:55] <palcek> I did edit the group file though
[11:55] <bekks> cfhowlett: Sure.
[11:55] <palcek> where I added a second user to the sudo group
[11:56] <palcek> so maybee thats why my original user specified during install was "corrupted"
[11:56] <palcek> I would like to add this is my first time installing Ubuntu :)
[11:56] <bekks> palcek: I think you removed your superuser from the sudo group, accidentially.
[11:57] <palcek> when I look at /etc/group
[11:57] <palcek> the user is still there
[11:57] <palcek> sudo:x:27:user1:user2
[11:58] <palcek> thats how the line looks
[11:58] <palcek> i booted again with the USB key and went through recovery of corrup system and am now in the shell
[11:58] <palcek> where I can see the file and it looks like that
[11:58] <palcek> im simoultanously installing a second ubuntu on the same hardware and it was the same error untill I used the usermod command
[11:59] <palcek> on the second box I didnt log out though with the main user before doing that since I noticed the error on the first box
[11:59] <rd_> akik: not sure how it works
[12:00] <akik> rd_: you press start and httpfox starts logging every connection you make in the browser
[12:00] <bekks> palcek: I dont see a reason for running that usermod command, at all.
[12:01] <brym> MonkeyDust, i've just tried to mount -B the share, and it failed with permission denied (re vm's running from nas)
[12:02] <ducasse> palcek: that line from /etc/group is malformed, the last colon should be a comma
[12:04] <palcek> I am sorry, I got disconnected
[12:04] <akik> using the usermod command prevents typos like those
[12:05] <palcek> bekks I understand but the thing is, I added the second user on both boxes simoultanously but when I noticed the problem on box1 I didnt logout on the second box. I googled the issue and it suggested that command. When I executed it on box2 the error was gone. So it actually did resolve the issue.
[12:05] <rd_> akik: havent used ff in awhile, customize addons and also had to reload page, but again thanks, this is neat addon, I see chrome has it baked in
[12:05] <akik> rd_: what is it called in chrome?
[12:05] <bekks> palcek: Which issue?
[12:05] <bekks> palcek: Adding a second user with sudo privs?
[12:06] <rd_> akik: Open the Chrome Developer Tools (either through the hamburger menu, F12 or Ctrl/Cmd-Opt-I. Find the Network tab once the tools appear at the bottom of the screen.
[12:06] <palcek> bekks no, when I added the second user to /etc/group it somehow corrupted the main user. Because now both users do not have sudo privs
[12:06] <palcek> bekks and im stuck without a "superuser"
[12:06] <ducasse> palcek: because of your typo
[12:06] <bekks> palcek: And what was the initial problem leading to messing around with /etc/group? Adding a second user with sudo privs?
[12:07] <palcek> bekks, yes
[12:07] <palcek> ducasse what typo ?
[12:07] <akik> rd_: oh ok found it. on my chrome the network tab was on top of the thing
[12:07] <ducasse> palcek: that line from /etc/group is malformed, the last colon should be a comma
[12:07] <EriC^^> palcek: vigr to edit /etc/group if you have to edit it manually
[12:08] <EriC^^> palcek: use recovery mode to fix stuff now
[12:08] <palcek> ducasse so it should be sudo:x:27:user1:user2, ?
[12:08] <bekks> palcek: Why didnt you use usermod for adding your second user to the sudo group? :) And now off for fixing your /etc/group ;)
[12:08] <ducasse> palcek: no, :user1,user2
[12:08] <ducasse> palcek: man group
[12:08] <palcek> ducasse I see
[12:09] <palcek> Eric I am in recovery modes shell but I still cant fix it
[12:09] <EriC^^> palcek: type mount -o remount,rw /
[12:09] <palcek> Eric I suppose i should use another function in the recovery mode ?
[12:09] <palcek> Eric what will that do exactly ?
[12:09] <dannymichel> Can duplicity backup to regular files instead of archive?
[12:09] <bingo> EriC is good at fiXors !
[12:10] <auronandace> remounts the filesystem as rw
[12:10] <palcek> Eric remount in red/write mode ?
[12:10] <EriC^^> palcek: yeah
[12:12] <palcek> Eric and others
[12:12] <palcek> I got it fixed
[12:12] <palcek> thank you for the help
[12:12] <EriC^^> np
[12:14] <bingo> gnome 3.10 16.04 a LTS release, or 3 yrs?
[12:14] <puto> hola
[12:14] <ata> iiiuhu
[12:14] <puto> polla
[12:14] <ata> urgiryuireoghgdfkjkh
[12:14] <Guest35842> hguruyhgiuoe
[12:14] <tales> following these instructions http://superuser.com/questions/771044/how-to-make-apt-offline-on-windows
[12:14] <tales> and its like super not working
[12:14] <brym> i'm receiving a permisison denied error when trying to bind mount a gvfs share -- wanting to create a storage pool on my nas to run vm's from
[12:15] <EriC^^> bingo: 3 years
[12:15] <Guest35842> bnbnbnbnbnbnbnbnbnbnbnbnbnnbnbnbnbnbnbnbnbnbnbnbnbnb
[12:15] <EriC^^> i think
[12:15] <Seveas> bingo: 5 years, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LTS
[12:15] <puto> esto sirve pa cuando nestemos en un examen
[12:15] <Guest35842> ghghghghghghghghghghhghghghghghhghghghghghghghghghghghghg
[12:15] <bingo> yes i think so 2
[12:15] <cfhowlett> Guest35842, play somewhere else please.
[12:15] <EriC^^> Seveas: aren't the other flavors supported for just 3 years?
[12:15] <cfhowlett> !es | puto
[12:15] <tales> Keep getting ImportError: No Module named PyQt4
[12:15] <puto> ok
[12:15] <tales> but i have installed it
[12:15] <Guest35842> ok
[12:15] <tales> so like wtf
[12:16] <bingo> yes they are, but it is ubuntu 16.04 with shell, rite?
[12:16] <Seveas> tales: how did you install it?
[12:16] <puto> puto amo
[12:16] <puto> puto amo fucking amo
[12:16] <Seveas> EriC^^: hmm, that page doesn't specifically mention gnome
[12:16] <cfhowlett> !ops | puto profanity
[12:17] <cfhowlett> ban requested
[12:17] <EriC^^> bingo: to be honest i dont know what that means really, somebody said the main ubuntu stuff keeps getting updated but the gnome specific stuff is just for 3 years, i beleive
[12:17] <EriC^^> *believe
[12:17] <puto> ubottu eres español?
[12:17] <bingo> Gracias mon ami
[12:17] <EriC^^> Seveas: the lubuntu specific site and other variants say lts supported for 3 years, not sure what that really means though
[12:17] <puto> bingo
[12:17] <Seveas> bingo: you can find support terms per packagr
[12:17] <cfhowlett> EriC^^, that is the case with Ubuntustudio.  xubuntu is supported for only 3 years limitation imposed by xfce
[12:18] <Seveas> spirit:~$ apt-cache show bash | grep ^Supported
[12:18] <Seveas> Supported: 5y
[12:18] <puto> i am sad
[12:18] <cfhowlett> puto, play somewhere else please
[12:18] <EriC^^> cfhowlett: aha i see
[12:18] <bingo> so look in apt-cache?
[12:19] <puto> cfhowlett play whit my
[12:19] <bingo> reason i ask is, i have trusty with a compiz, and also have the metacity fallback
[12:20] <puto> i am speak spain
[12:20] <soulisson> bekks, quick question, I'm using debugfs but I'm unable to check if the inode is free or not
[12:20] <cfhowlett> hexchat is makes it quite easy to ignore disruptive people. right click on the name, e.g. puto, click ignore and no more messages appear
[12:20] <Seveas> bingo: for pkg in $(dpkg -l | awk '/^ii/{print $2}'); do apt-cache show $pkg | grep '^Package\|^Supported'; done
[12:20] <puto> bie bie
[12:20] <palcek> mario
[12:21] <bingo> Seveas in terminal as Sudo?
[12:21] <EriC^^> so after 3 years the packages that are supported for 3 years don't get any updates anymore
[12:21] <EriC^^> ?
[12:21] <cfhowlett> yep
[12:22] <Seveas> bingo: no need for sudo.
[12:22] <tales> installed qty Seveas ?
[12:22] <bingo> hexchat need to place copy selection in obvious place
[12:22] <tales> i installed python 3.5 then the qty thing
[12:22] <Seveas> tales: how?
[12:22] <bingo> ty Seveas
[12:22] <ducasse> tales: if this is on windows we can't really help
[12:22] <tales> yeah its on windows
[12:22] <tales> just gonna give up on this idea
[12:22] <Seveas> tales: yeah, then try #python perhaps. We don't do windows.
[12:23] <tales> ok thanks
[12:23] <bingo> wha? how windows? vm?
[12:23] <cfhowlett> nope.  the new apt on windows thing.
[12:23] <inblueswithu> Can any one tell how I can reset all the graphics setting I have changed? I need to set everything to default as a fresh install. (I had my /home partition separate, after installing ubuntu gnome 16.04, my graphics, window manager settings are all mixed)-So, I want to reset it to the base settings.
[12:23] <bingo> oh no?
[12:23] <imr> aka bash.exe
[12:23] <Seveas> cfhowlett: oh that. Haven't messed around with that yet.
[12:24] <cfhowlett> Seveas, nor I have I nor will I ever
[12:24] <bingo> bash on windows needs a windows thing for linux stuff.  I used an egg with the thing
[12:24] <tales> how do i register my nick on here
[12:25] <Seveas> cfhowlett: I may do so soon enough. Getting some windows boxen to play with
[12:25] <cfhowlett> !nick | tales
[12:25] <Seveas> !register > tales
[12:25] <tales> thank youuu
 /msg nickserv help register
[12:29] <BluesKaj> kevin123, put that command in the server box
[12:30] <bingo> cygwin.com is what I used under Xp for some linus on win
[12:31] <bingo> it did the bash before powershell was made
[12:31] <OgionNJ> Good morning.
[12:31] <OgionNJ> When I maximize a terminal window (originally 80x24 or somesuch) and then restore, the window is not returned to its original size. It's not maximized; it's almost the same size as a maximized window, though.
[12:31] <OgionNJ> Anyone else have this problem?
[12:31] <OgionNJ> This is on 16.04
[12:31] <EriC^^> OgionNJ: yeah it's a bug
[12:32] <OgionNJ> Known bug? So I won't bother to report it.
[12:32] <OgionNJ> Kinda annoying :(
[12:33] <fdelafue> hi
[12:33] <EriC^^> OgionNJ: yeah it's a known bug
[12:34] <OgionNJ> ok. Thanks for the confirmation
[12:40] <venter> hi any solutions to this error:::::::                 E: The package samba-libs needs to be reinstalled, but I can't find an archive for it.
[12:41] <tokam> just reinstall samba?
[12:41] <tokam> and samba-common and the other packages?
[12:41] <bingo> rsync on cygwin in windows
[12:41] <tokam> no there is a package that is named samba-libs
[12:42] <tokam> in the package explorer
[12:42] <bingo> oh wow
[12:42] <venter> what commad?
[12:42] <venter> what command?
[12:42] <EriC^^> venter: do you have internet connection on the pc?
[12:42] <venter> yea
[12:43] <EriC^^> venter: sudo apt-get install --reinstall samba-libs
[12:43] <venter> cool
[12:43] <venter> at failed at first
[12:43] <venter> but let me give it a try
[12:44] <venter> it cant work
[12:44] <EriC^^> why not
[12:44] <EriC^^> which ubuntu are you running
[12:45] <venter> 16.04LTS
[12:45] <lokien_> Hey guys, is lvm on a desktop worth it?
[12:45] <EriC^^> !info samba-libs xenial
[12:46] <EriC^^> venter: what error do you get
[12:46] <naltamur> http://api.hostinger.co.uk/redir/14739960
[12:46] <venter> ERROR: E: The package samba-libs needs to be reinstalled, but I can't find an archive for it.
[12:47] <EriC^^> venter: type apt-cache policy samba-libs
[12:50] <solim> \channels
[12:52] <rajiv_> Somebody please provide the names of some best download managers for ubuntu 16.04 lts.
[12:52] <EriC^^> rajiv_: cli?
[12:53] <bingo> APT 24.01 ?
[12:54] <soulisson> Hi, I played a little bit with the debugfs utility however I was unable to check whether or not the inode is free or not, does that mean that this information is not stored in the inode itself but somewhere else in the fs?
[12:54] <bingo> what version is this apt that can do windows?
[12:57] <BluesKaj> bingo, you must mean a VM
[12:58] <bingo> the Chocolatey package manager.  lets u install windows things  like wget
[12:59] <bingo> but i dunno it
[12:59] <bingo> I am still on that question about apt - what EriC said
[13:00] <Exagone313> Hi, how do I check packages that could have a problem if I upgrade from trusty to xenial?
[13:01] <bingo> dpkg ?
[13:01] <BluesKaj> bingo if you need wget , just install it , thee's no special package manager needed for that
[13:01] <Exagone313> bingo: what do you mean?
[13:02] <bingo> mm, that is true of course. but the thing was.. question was.. on windows. i beleive.
[13:02] <Exagone313> I have sources for trusty, I want, before changing the sources, to find the possibles problems
[13:03] <Exagone313> I mean in /etc/apt/sources.list
[13:03] <bingo> trusty upgrades to 15.10, then 16.04
[13:03] <Exagone313> huh?
[13:03] <cfhowlett> Exagone313, direct upgrade to xenial is not supported until 16.04.1.  forcing the issue, as you are preparing to do, *will* break things.
[13:03] <bingo> see
[13:03] <cfhowlett> alternative is to download the .iso and clean install
[13:04] <bingo> or wait
[13:04] <bingo> July
[13:04] <cfhowlett> 07/21 is the date I saw --- should be on the release notes for xenial
[13:04] <Exagone313> Oh I see, thanks
[13:05] <BluesKaj> point release for 16.04LTS
[13:05] <Exagone313> It's a server so I don't want any trouble, and I prefer not to reinstall
[13:05] <bingo> m, make space on hd, and install xenial alongside trusty?
[13:06] <Exagone313> bingo: it's a dedicated server, I don't want to break the boot
[13:06] <Exagone313> and it won't help
[13:07] <lpaalp1> where can I get web development help?
[13:07] <bingo> server. um, can't grub do it?
[13:07] <ducasse> Exagone313: if it's a server you should definitely wait for the point release.
[13:07] <Exagone313> lpaalp1: #web or specific language channels
[13:07] <cfhowlett> Exagone313, #ubuntu-server channel might provide more insight
[13:07] <lpaalp1> Exagone313: thanks
[13:07] <Exagone313> ducasse: yes I'll do that, thanks
[13:08] <bingo> < can't imagine server without gui
[13:08] <cfhowlett> bingo, the purists admins would tell that servers don't HAVE a gui ...
[13:08] <Exagone313> what do you mean? I have x2go but I prefer not to have to use it
[13:09] <bingo> wow man
[13:09] <Exagone313> it's not so difficult and even when I use linux locally, I prefer to use my terminal instead of a graphical program (except for irc and web and other chats)
[13:13] <asar> any C programmer in here
[13:13] <bingo>  tried upgrade from trusty , and the first day release was not on the list. but, it got on the list, and I did the manager to get 15.10, this i5 did not like it, stopped with 90 pkgs remaining, and left a brttyl log-on . so i wiped the partition again and put trusty dekstop back together
[13:17] <bonsairoot> Hey! What can I do if my super key isn't being recognized? It just straight up doesn't work. Not on ubuntu and not on arch. Everything else works just fine and since I use alt as mod it's not that tragic but still.
[13:18] <ducasse> bonsairoot: use xev to see what keycode it sends.
[13:19] <bonsairoot> ducasse, that's the problem.. it sends nothing
[13:19] <ducasse> bonsairoot: what kind of keyboard?
[13:20] <kriszta3> which anime site is the best ?
[13:20] <bonsairoot> ducasse, cooler master cmstorm trigger
[13:21] <ducasse> bonsairoot: idk, maybe google can tell you if it's a common problem? if not, you can try udevadm or evtest to see if the kernel sees the scancode at all.
[13:23] <kyle__> Is there a package that gives you the userspace cpu governor kernel module in 16.04?
[13:28] <bonsairoot> ducasse, yea some people have the same problem but I couldn't find a solution except 1 approach which involves booting into windows and assign the "trigger" key as windows key.
[13:28] <bingo> got it
[13:29] <ducasse> bonsairoot: if udevadm can see a scancode from the key then you can remap that to the code you want it to send with a rule file
[13:31] <talespin> right got the python side of this working (apt-offline)
[13:31] <talespin> now how do i generate a signature ?
[13:32] <kasd> hi guys
[13:32] <kasd> how to make shell exec my script inside xterm
[13:33] <ducasse> talespin: you need to install apt-offline on the Ubuntu machine
[13:33] <talespin> i thought so ducasse
[13:33] <talespin> ok will do that tonight
[13:34] <bingo> ah.. ah,ha. apt-offline.  we/ I have been looking at things like cygwin, rsync, and Chocoltey
[13:34] <talespin> i hope i have the right python shit installed on my ubuntu machine
[13:34] <ducasse> kasd: "xterm -e script.sh" I think, see the man page
[13:35] <bingo> chocholtey
[13:35] <bingo> ?
[13:35] <kasd> ducasse: open directly ... #!/bin/bash xterm exec commands
[13:36] <bingo> Chocolatey
[13:37] <ducasse> kasd: "xterm -e whatever", then
[13:38] <soulisson> Is there to play mkv files on Ubuntu, vlc is not working
[13:38] <Seveas> soulisson: try mplayer. It tends to play everything
[13:38] <soulisson> Seveas, ok, thanks
[13:38] <bingo> apt-offline set /tmp/apt-offline.sig
[13:39] <bingo> um, website for that
[13:40] <kasd> ducasse: tranks
[13:40] <kasd> ducasse: xterm -hold -e to not destroy window
[13:40] <kasd> :D
[13:42] <ducasse> kasd: you only asked how to run something inside xterm :)
[13:43] <kasd> ducasse: xterm the best Mauhauhauha
[13:44] <ducasse> kasd: i much prefer roxterm, but of course it doesn't support all the archaic stuff xterm does...
[13:46] <kasd> ducasse: kk... thanks you bro
[13:53] <kasd> ducasse: hey bro
[13:54] <ducasse> kasd: you have a question?
[13:54] <kasd> ducasse: similar command "dmidecode -t 1" no need sudo.
[13:56] <ducasse> kasd: you probably need root privileges to get that information, but check /sys/firmware
[13:56] <lzy> hello
[13:57] <lzy> hi?
[13:57] <lzy> hello im from china
[13:57] <klystron> if you upgrade from 15.10 to 16.04 do you lose any software / applications that were installed under 15.10?
[13:57] <lzy> lol
[13:58] <kasd> ducasse: thanks
[13:58] <soulisson> I'm trying to play mkv files but mplayer didn't work
[13:58] <rfleming> klystron, You shouldn't no.
[13:58] <kasd> ducasse: need permission :-(
[13:58] <rfleming> the only exception is software that is known not to function under 16.04
[13:58] <ducasse> soulisson: you're probably missing a codec, look for error messages
[13:59] <ducasse> kasd: I expected so.
[13:59] <lzy> lol
[14:00] <kasd> ducasse: kk
[14:00] <klystron> thanks what about the home folder if it was not installed to a separate partition?
[14:00] <ducasse> klystron: it shouldn't be touched, but you should always back up before an upgrade
[14:01] <klystron> thanks
[14:01] <rfleming> klystron, are you upgrading via livecd?
[14:01] <klystron> no via the software upgrade application
[14:02] <rfleming> klystron, I don't believe you can upgrade to 16.04 yet via update-manager until 16.04.1 is released
[14:02] <rfleming> (unless you're doing the developer branch upgrade)
[14:03] <klystron> will the 16.04.1 allow a upgrade path for 14.04?
[14:03] <rfleming> Most certainly
[14:03] <klystron> any idea when 16.04.1 will be avaiable?
[14:04] <rfleming> klystron, using update-manager will not affect your home folder or any installed applications you have.
[14:04] <sstory> no matter how I make a PNG icon, gnome seems to be putting a white rectangle around it, even outside of the transparent edges...????
[14:05] <gsilvapt> Hello all. Anyone here in Ubuntu 16.04 that is experiencing stability issues while browsing? Tried using Firefox and Chrome and it is the same
[14:05] <gsilvapt> Swap and memory tests were fone and all
[14:05] <bingo> gtg bye bye
[14:07] <bitaro_> anyone using gnome 3.20/3.18 on ubuntu 16.04? how do you add a system indicator on the top panel?
[14:07] <rfleming> klystron, as of right now, 16.04.1 is scheduled for release on July 21, 2016 (https://wiki.ubuntu.com/XenialXerus/ReleaseSchedule)
[14:08] <klystron> thank you rfleming
[14:08] <rfleming> klystron, You are welcome :)
[14:14] <saddam_> hi
[14:23] <ubuntu-mate> ahoi. is it possible to instal umate over older ubuntu without destroying current grub written on onther disk with win7?
[14:27] <aguitel_> i trying to install ubuntu on mac , can i resize partition with ubuntu live cd?
[14:31] <lyze> aguitel_, yes you can. During the setup it'll ask you if you choose "Something else" at the installation type ( At this screen: https://assets.ubuntu.com/v1/b42312cd-download-desktop-install-ubuntu-desktop_4.jpg )
[14:36] <lerner> where do I find the logs for yesterday?
[14:36] <DJones> !logs | lerner
[14:38] <soulisson> How the ssh server is able to transmits data to its subsystem?
[14:38] <soulisson> *subsystems?
[14:39] <lerner> I dont find what I wrote...
[14:39] <ubuntu-mate> ahoi. is it possible to install ubuntu mate over older ubuntu without destroying current grub written on other disk with win7? or new ubuntu will recognize second system and creat proper grub?
[14:39] <lerner> sudo apt update and sudo apt-get update work equally fine, correct?
[14:40] <ducasse> lerner: yes
[14:40] <ubuntu-mate> probably yes, check with google. ive got some complex problem :)
[14:41] <EriC^^> ubuntu-mate: you can use the manual partitioning to do whatever you want
[14:42] <EriC^^> there's a tab for the bootloader location at the bottom
[14:42] <ubuntu-mate> ok, but last time when i added extra disk and installed ubuntu on it there was no win7 to choose at the start
[14:43] <ubuntu-mate> yes, i saw the boot loader location. but when i did choose the right partition it didnt proceed
[14:43] <EriC^^> ubuntu-mate: depends on a lot of stuff, uefi/bios mismatch, ...
[14:43] <fennesz> hello ! I just installed lubuntu x64 16.04 . I would like to install the amd driver for my Radeon Hd 6 series . Can anyone help me ?
[14:44] <EriC^^> ubuntu-mate: you need to choose the root fs location too
[14:44] <EriC^^> fennesz: i dont think it's possible to install fglrx on 16.04 easily
[14:44] <EriC^^> or do you mean amdgpu?
[14:45] <fennesz> EriC^^, fglrx I guess
[14:45] <fennesz> dont know the difference actually
[14:45] <EriC^^> fennesz: try amdgpu and see if it works
[14:45] <fennesz> EriC^^, ok let me search for it
[14:48] <fennesz> EriC^^, is this it ? http://support.amd.com/en-us/kb-articles/Pages/AMDGPU-PRO-Install.aspx
[14:51] <EriC^^> fennesz: i think it's already installed
[14:51] <EriC^^> try dpkg -l | grep amdgpu
[14:52] <fennesz> EriC^^, http://pastebin.com/seinfdec
[14:52] <fennesz> I think it is yes
[14:52] <EriC^^> ah i think the amdgpu pro has more support features
[14:53] <EriC^^> like opencl etc
[14:53] <MonkeyDust> make that grep, to override upper and lower case difference
[14:53] <EriC^^> fennesz: http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=amd-gpu-pro&num=1
[14:53] <MonkeyDust> make that grep -i, to override upper and lower case difference
[14:53] <mhayden> is it possible to prevent a daemon from starting when it's installed in Ubuntu 16.04? dpkg seems to override anything i set in systemd to prevent that from happening
[14:54] <cloudnull> mhayden: beat me to it :)
[14:54] <mhayden> oops
[14:54] <mhayden> systemd presets and masks are all overriden by dpkg
[14:54] <fennesz> EriC^^, ok should I go with the link I provided?
[14:54] <mhayden> or some type of package trigger
[14:54] <cloudnull> in 14.04 I was able to drop/edit "/usr/sbin/policy-rc.d" to force it to exit without starting however in 16.04 it seems the system is ignorning policy.d files and starting service anyway.
[14:55] <BluesKaj> mhayden, systemctl diasable saidpackage, doesn't work?
[14:55] <mhayden> BluesKaj: no -- masking won't work either
[14:55] <mhayden> the packages gets installed, it rips anything in /etc/systemd/system out of the way (which is very dangerous) and starts the daemon
[14:55] <EriC^^> fennesz: yeah you could try the amdgpu-pro from amd's website, it's beta has more support though
[14:56] <mhayden> user specific customizations in etc are destroyed
[14:56] <BluesKaj> mhayden, which app?
[14:56] <fennesz> ok will try that EriC^^
[14:56] <mhayden> BluesKaj: pick any :)
[14:56] <mhayden> i was testing with nginx
[14:56] <cloudnull> BluesKaj: mariadb10 is another example we have
[14:57] <macopython> I am upgrading my Ubuntu 14 system using "do-release-upgrade". Will it remove my data ?
[14:58] <xangua> macopython: no, but backup is always good idea
[14:58] <macopython> xangua: Ok Thanks.
[14:58] <lyze> macopython, normally not. It even asks you if it is ok to override certain config files and so on...
[15:00] <macopython> lyze: Great.
[15:04] <soulisson> any one for my question, please?
[15:04] <MonkeyDust> soulisson  hit the up key to repeat it every 15 minutes or so
[15:05] <soulisson> MonkeyDust, ok
[15:05] <soulisson> How the ssh server is able to transmits data to its subsystems?
[15:08] <Ali1> Guys I wanna change settings in my touchpad driver
[15:08] <Ali1> How to uninstall touchpad driver?
[15:08] <Ali1> for dell e6420
[15:09] <Hulio> is there ubuntu social chat only?
[15:09] <Hulio> i don't want to just chat off topic in the channel.
[15:10] <nacc> !offtopic | Hulio
[15:10] <Ali1> how to uninstall my touchpad driver in ubuntu ???
[15:10] <Ali1> e6420 laptop dell latitude
[15:10] <Hulio> nacc, come on man
[15:10] <nacc> Hulio: as in, use #ubuntu-offtopic ?
[15:10] <Hulio> oh sorry, i didn't catch that
[15:10] <Ali1> any help anyone??
[15:10] <Hulio> i tought you told me i was off topic haha
[15:10] <Hulio> thanks nacc
[15:10] <nacc> !patience | Hulio
[15:11] <nacc> Ali1: why do you want to uninstall the driver? what is the driver you mean? do you mean synaptics support?
[15:11] <Ali1> no
[15:11] <Ali1> touchpad dell pointing devices ( as I saw in windows) not sure about ubuntu
[15:12] <Ali1> the driver has conflicting issues
[15:12] <Ali1> whenever plugged in, cursor erratic
[15:12] <nacc> Ali1: what driver?
[15:12] <Ali1> touchpad
[15:12] <curlyears> greets
[15:12] <Ali1> dell e6420
[15:12] <Ali1> how to uninstall?
[15:13] <Ali1> I did by program files uninstall in windows but not sure how to do it in ubuntu
[15:13] <Ali1> please help
[15:13] <nacc> Ali1: that's a device, what's the driver? `sudo lshw` may tell you what driver is being used
[15:13] <curlyears> OK.   I downloaded the .deb, and then I issue:  get-apt install ./<.debname>   it starts to work, then blows up complaining that it can't find any of the files it has already listed as having "seen"
[15:14] <nacc> Ali1: if it's a 3rd-party or external module, you can remove it (esp. easy if it's a package) but if it's in the Linux kernel, you'll need to "blacklist" it
[15:14] <curlyears> what am I doing wrong?
[15:14] <nacc> curlyears: do you mean `apt-get`?
[15:14] <curlyears> yes, nacc.  sorry
[15:14] <ducasse> curlyears: you don't install .deb files with apt, use gdebi
[15:14] <Ali1> coz I dont rememer installing it.
[15:14] <nacc> curlyears: `apt-get` doesnt' know how to install .deb files -- you need to use dpkg, or gdebi, or add it to your software center (iirc)
[15:14] <Ali1> remember*
[15:15] <Ali1> I just installed ubuntu 16.04 LTS
[15:15] <curlyears> is gdebi included in a standard 14.04.4 install?
[15:15] <Ali1> it installed automatically I guess?
[15:15] <ducasse> curlyears: no
[15:15] <nacc> Ali1: probably, so you will need to figure out the driver in use and blacklist the module from loading
[15:15] <curlyears> ok, thanks.
[15:15] <ducasse> curlyears: it's in the repos, though
[15:15] <nacc> Ali1: a simpler solution may be to disable the touchpad in BIOS
[15:15] <Ali1> nacc, how to do that ?
[15:16] <django_> hey folks
[15:16] <curlyears> also, am I mistaken, or is 16.04LTS only available in a server version?
[15:16] <Ali1> i tried bios
[15:16] <django_> whats the best way to make a gif from a recording?
[15:16] <django_> that is small enough for imgur hosting
[15:16] <Ali1> why should I disable touchpad?
[15:16] <nacc> curlyears: yes, it is
[15:16] <Ali1> instead of driver
[15:16] <nacc> Ali1: what do you think removing the driver will do?
[15:16] <curlyears> back in a few
[15:16] <Ali1> I removed driver and in windows the cursor became slow
[15:16] <Ali1> but stable
[15:16] <Ali1> want the same on ubuntu
[15:17] <Ali1> understood? nacc
[15:18] <Ali1> I need to uninstall touchpad so I can get stable cursor movement (but slower) just like it did on windows. nacc
[15:18] <Ali1> is that possible?
[15:18] <ducasse> Ali1: if you remove the driver then the touchpad probably won't work at all
[15:18] <Ali1> driver*
[15:19] <Ali1> in windows it was :O
[15:19] <nacc> Ali1: as I said, you don't install/uninstall drivers like in Windows with Linux. You will have to blacklist the relevant module if you don't want the driver to load.
[15:19] <ducasse> Ali1: ubuntu isn't windows, don't expect it to behave the same
[15:19] <Ali1> how to blacklist in kernal? nc-lumberJack
[15:19] <Ali1> ncc*
[15:19] <Pici> !tab
[15:20] <Ali1> ducasse, I know especially when it comes to ease of use
[15:20] <nacc> Ali1: fwiw, your laptop has been ubuntu certified: http://www.ubuntu.com/certification/hardware/201011-6842/
[15:20] <Ali1> yea
[15:20] <Ali1> so what it is supposed to mean? nacc
[15:22] <nacc> Ali1: is your BIOS running in "legacy" mode?
[15:24] <django_> how can i make a gif on ubuntu?
[15:24] <Ali1> UEFI nacc
[15:24] <Ali1> why?
[15:24] <Ali1> should I run it on legacy?
[15:24] <Ali1> tell me pleaseee
[15:25] <nacc> Ali1: the certification page says it was certified in legacy mode, and another askubuntu page mentions some users touchpad issues disappeared in legacy mode; just a thought
[15:25] <Ali1> nacc, should I run on legacy mode?
[15:25] <nacc> Ali1: please be patient!
[15:25] <Ali1> ok
[15:25] <Ali1> thanks
[15:25] <Ali1> I will try on legacy mode
[15:25] <MonkeyDust> django_  plenty tutorials online, here's one http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1034104
[15:25] <Ali1> but nacc : It was not booting up ubuntu in legacy mode :(
[15:26] <Ali1> when I first installed it
[15:26] <Ali1> i had to change to uefi
[15:26] <django_> MonkeyDust: yeah but idk how to get a set of images
[15:26] <django_> i have a video
[15:26] <ducasse> Ali1: no, if ubuntu is installed in UEFI mode it won't boot in legacy mode.
[15:27] <Ali1> so I need to change it to Legacy mode and then install ubuntu again right?
[15:27] <MonkeyDust> django_  use a video editor to mark begin and end of the fragment, then extract it
[15:27] <ducasse> Ali1: I have no idea why that would make a difference for the touchpad, it really shouldn't.
[15:27] <Ali1> thats what I did and it didnt boot up either.
[15:28] <nacc> Ali1: i wonder if they meant "legacy" USB mode (some USB BIOS settings have multiple options)
[15:28] <Ali1> yea exactly. so you prefer legacy or uefi?
[15:28] <nacc> Ali1: also, are you on the latest BIOS from dell for your laptop?
[15:29] <Ali1> I am gonna install ubuntu from scratch now, please tell me should I install on legacy
[15:29] <Ali1> or UEFI
[15:29] <nacc> Ali1: can you pastebin the output of `xinput` ?
[15:30] <Ali1> actually I just removed everything
[15:30] <Ali1> gonna re install
[15:31] <Ali1> so should I use legacy
[15:31] <Ali1> or UEFI
[15:31] <Ali1> nacc?
[15:32] <nacc> Ali1: I don't know; as ducasse said, UEFI/legacy boot mode should not have made a difference
[15:32] <ducasse> Ali1: I would use UEFI, it should have no impact on the toucpad as I said, so I don't see the need for a reinstall.
[15:32] <eelstrebor> i hate to complain - i really do hate to complain - but my upgrade to 16.04 didn't go perfectly - long boot time compared to 14.04.04 - i don't like what was done to gedit either - among other things
[15:33]  * eelstrebor guesses he'll try another fresh install
[15:33] <ducasse> !ltsupgrade | eelstrebor
[15:34] <eelstrebor> maybe i'll wait for that
[15:35] <MonkeyDust> Ali1  nacc and ducasse are saying that a reinstall won't solve the problem
[15:36] <Ali1> but I have already formatted
[15:36] <Ali1> so MonkeyDust u would prefer UEFI or legacy
[15:36] <Ali1> to install new copy
[15:36] <MonkeyDust> Ali1  not sure, i don't have uefi here
[15:36] <ducasse> Ali1: UEFI has advantages over legacy, you should use that.
[15:37] <Ali1> alright ducasse
[15:38] <ducasse> Ali1: but don't expect it to solve the problem. there might be a 'generic' toucpad driver that works better, it requires a little experimentation.
[15:43] <ducasse> Ali1: try looking under /lib/modules/$(uname -r)/kernel/drivers/hid - hid-generic might be worth a shot.
[15:44] <qymspace_> #kooga
[15:45] <denil> i want to set a non complex password for by ubuntu 14.04
[15:46] <denil> any suggestions to do so
[15:46] <auronandace> denil: nobody is stopping you from doing that
[15:46] <curlyears> )-:  they haven't updated their cura sources...still referencing python libs that don't exist under ubuntu 14.04.4
[15:46] <MonkeyDust> denil  123abc is non-complex
[15:46] <denil> but ubuntu is
[15:46] <denil> but ubuntu doesnt allows me to set like tht
[15:47] <MIJ> how do i stop my mic from going to unamplified
[15:47] <MIJ> hi all
[15:47] <curlyears> whatare you trying to do, denil?
[15:47] <auronandace> denil: yes it does, the installer will just warn you it isn't a great password to use
[15:47] <denil> i m trying to change my password curlyears
[15:47] <arunpyasi> Hello guys, please help me connect my bluetooth headset with my PC. I am able to connect but its not wokring
[15:47] <curlyears> denil:  what  is the problem?
[15:48] <denil> auronandace i alrdy hve a pass which is so simple but i want to make it more simple
[15:48] <denil> curlyears it doesnt allow me to change
[15:48] <ducasse> denil: set the password with root privileges, then you can use whatever you want. still a bad idea :)
[15:48] <curlyears> denil:  what error is it returning?
[15:49] <MonkeyDust> denil  how silmple do you want it? 123abc?
[15:49] <denil> ducasse how to get the system settings with root privillagees
[15:49] <denil> monkeydust yea like tht
[15:49] <MonkeyDust> denil  great, you just invented your own persoanl password
[15:49] <denil> curl years as soon as i enter my pass the change button doesnt get highlighted
[15:49] <curlyears> denil:  just run sudo passwd <username>
[15:49] <denil> monkeydust :D hehe
[15:50] <curlyears> you are positive you're entering the correct CURRENT password?
[15:50] <denil> lemme try curlyears
[15:50] <denil> yea i m
[15:50] <denil> i m entering the correct pass
[15:50] <MIJ> ok i fixed it buddy
[15:50] <MIJ> it was skypes fault
[15:51] <MIJ> tnx bye
[15:51] <kernal> upgrading to 16.04 server from 15.10
[15:51] <curlyears> why is /whois not working?
[15:51] <denil> denil@Denil-HP-Notebook:~$ sudo passwd denil [sudo] password for denil:  Enter new UNIX password:  Retype new UNIX password:  passwd: password updated successfully denil@Denil-HP-Notebook:~$
[15:51] <denil> it wowrked
[15:51] <denil> tx all
[15:51] <denil> :)
[15:51] <denil> worked*
[15:51]  * curlyears uses desktop, so has no choice but to wait until July to upgrade to 16.04
[15:52] <jet> hii
[15:52] <denil> tx guys
[15:52] <denil> bye
[15:52] <curlyears> good deal, denil
[15:52] <denil> :)
[15:53] <BluesKaj> curlyears, 16.04 desktop works fine here
[15:54]  * curlyears has a mental algorithm he uses to "generate" his passwd each time he logs in, no need to remember passwd itself.
[15:54] <ducasse> keepassx ftw :)
[15:54] <curlyears> BluesKaj: how did you get it?  ubuntu.com only seems tobe offering a server version.
[15:55] <BluesKaj> are you on 15.10, curlyears?
[15:55] <BluesKaj> or 14.o4?
[15:55] <curlyears> Guest20110:  careful, signing into a nerd channel with a female nick can lead to all sorts of "fun"
[15:55] <curlyears> BluesKaj: 14.04.4
[15:56] <MonkeyDust> curlyears  me too, been using 16.04 desktop since 4 weeks before oficial release
[15:56] <ducasse> curlyears: I'm pretty sure I downloaded a desktop image when xenial was released.
[15:56] <Guest20110> curlyears: lol, not too worried
[15:56] <curlyears> MonkeyDust: OK.  where did you get it?
[15:56] <MonkeyDust> curlyears  i went to #ubuntu+1 and picked it from the /topic
[15:57] <curlyears> Guest20110: OK, just letting you know.  Some  of these young bucks are awfully horny.
[15:57] <auronandace> curlyears: show us what you see on the download page on ubuntu.com
[15:58] <Guest20110> curlyears: any chick in IT for a living knows what an ignore button looks like
[15:58] <curlyears> MonkeyDust: : is it downloaded from the ubuntu website, or some third party website.   Becasue on the official ubuntu download page, the obly things I see offered are  server versions for x86 and amd64
[15:59] <curlyears> Guest20110: OK, good.  *heh heh*
[15:59] <curlyears> I am a bit too old to be hitting on females in chat channels, personally
[15:59] <ducasse> curlyears: http://releases.ubuntu.com/xenial/
[16:00] <MonkeyDust> curlyears  http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop
[16:00] <Baos> Just did an update from ubuntu xenial gnome.  Now my nvidia driver does not work.  Not sure how to fix it.
[16:01] <Baos> previous update was about 3-4 days ago
[16:03] <curlyears> alright, thanks filk.   Now I am downloaded 16.04 desktop .iso
[16:03] <BluesKaj> curlyears, sudo apt update && sudo apt full upgrade to bring your existing packages up to date, then sudo do-release-upgrade, if you wish to upgrade to 16.04. Set the update manager to LTS only first.
[16:03] <Baos> [     8.802] (WW) Warning, couldn't open module nvidia
[16:03] <Baos> [     8.802] (II) UnloadModule: "nvidia"
[16:03] <Baos> [     8.802] (II) Unloading nvidia
[16:03] <Baos> [     8.802] (EE) Failed to load module "nvidia" (module does not exist, 0)
[16:04] <curlyears> how does one set the update manager to LTS only?
[16:04] <curlyears> but then, I want to try 16.04 out in a  Live-DVD environment, first
[16:05] <Baos> currently stuck in giant mode in what used to be 4k resolution.
[16:06] <MonkeyDust> Baos  next, use a !pastebin for multiple lines
[16:06] <MonkeyDust> next time*
[16:06] <curlyears> man, the ubuntu site must be heavily loaded...my systwm says it is goingto take 3 HOURS to d/l 16.04.  Usually it takes just over an hour to d/l 1GB
[16:07] <ducasse> curlyears: grab the .torrent
[16:07] <Baos> really wish it would just merge those to one line.
[16:07] <curlyears> ducasse: I don't have a torrent client set up )-:
[16:08] <MonkeyDust> curlyears  4-5 minutes here, on an old laptop ... in what country are you?
[16:08] <Baos> nvidia is installed, no idea why it does not load properly
[16:08] <ducasse> curlyears: not a lot to set up, really :)
[16:08] <curlyears> MonkeyDust: USA, w/15Mbs connection
[16:08] <dannymichel> Is there a linux video app that supports resume video playback by default?
[16:08] <auronandace> curlyears: transmission is in the default install, nothing to set up, just launch it
[16:08] <Baos> dannymichel, mpv can do that
[16:09] <ducasse> dannymichel: vlc?
[16:09] <dannymichel> Not VLC ducasse
[16:09] <curlyears> can I TRUST an os installer obtained from a site other than ubuntu.com?
[16:09] <BluesKaj> mplayer?
[16:09] <dannymichel> I hate MPV as there is no way to save preferences and its command line based
[16:09] <dannymichel> MPlayer does that by default?
[16:10] <Baos> mpv is not mplayer
[16:10] <MonkeyDust> dannymichel  i like mpv because it is light and swift
[16:10] <ducasse> curlyears: yeah, just check the checksum (and key).
[16:10] <Baos> mpv is based on mplayer and mplayer2
[16:10] <dannymichel> Baos: BluesKaj said MPlayer
[16:10] <Myrtti> curlyears: .torrent downloaded from ubuntu.com has inbuilt checksum checker
[16:10] <BluesKaj> Baos, merely suggesting an player
[16:11] <BluesKaj> a player
[16:11] <dannymichel> Right - these things are things we know Baos
[16:11] <ducasse> curlyears: and if you use the torrent file from ubuntu.com the hash is checked automatically
[16:11] <Baos> I must be lagging.
[16:11] <dannymichel> BluesKaj: Baos said "MPV is not Mplayer"
[16:11] <curlyears> Myritti:  aha, so ubuntu.com offer torrent-based distribution?  I was unaware of that
[16:11] <Baos> on top of everything being super huge on a 55" screen.
[16:12] <dannymichel> Ill try MPV again and see if there is a way to save preferencess so i dont have to start it with some command all the time
[16:12] <Baos> Did not change anything, did not do an odd upgrade.
[16:12] <Baos> Do not understand why ubuntu is so bug ridden?
[16:12] <squinty> dannymichel,  depending on your exact needs, kodi also has a "resume at..."
[16:12] <Myrtti> curlyears: http://releases.ubuntu.com/16.04/
[16:12] <dannymichel> Cool cool squinty
[16:13] <dannymichel> Im looking for a light player though
[16:13] <dannymichel> Just a player
[16:13] <Baos> re-installed the driver quite a few times now
[16:13] <Baos> modprobe loads it just fine
[16:13] <Baos> but xorg unloads it
[16:13] <curlyears> i just opened trasmission, I see no way to intiate a download
[16:13] <Baos> tried different versions as well
[16:13] <MonkeyDust> dannymichel  mpv is a light player, nothing more
[16:13] <Baos> nvidia-361 and nvidia-current
[16:14] <nicomachus> curlyears: you have to open a .torrent file to start a download
[16:14] <dannymichel> Right MonkeyDust . i replied to him suggesting Kodi
[16:14] <auronandace> curlyears: you download a .torrent file and open it with transmission
[16:14] <dannymichel> What's goin gon today
[16:14] <nicomachus> curlyears: you have to download the .torrent file from the URL Myrtti provided
[16:14] <stumar> Could someone help me please. I have just started to use Ubuntu & I like what I see, but having an issue with screensaver. I get a message when I start it , The xscreensaver daemon doesn't seem to be running on display ";o" I googled it & did what it said, but still get error message. What to do?
[16:14] <curlyears> micomachus:  I see no .torrents beinf offered
[16:15] <ducasse> curlyears: look at the url I posted earlier
[16:15] <curlyears> I see no URL on my screen
[16:15] <nicomachus> curlyears: direct download link: http://releases.ubuntu.com/16.04/ubuntu-16.04-desktop-amd64.iso.torrent
[16:15] <nicomachus> curlyears: warning: that will start downloading immediately
[16:15] <nicomachus> curlyears: you can also use a terminal and just do "wget http://releases.ubuntu.com/16.04/ubuntu-16.04-desktop-amd64.iso.torrent"
[16:17] <stumar> Anyone?
[16:18] <mag300> hello
[16:18] <lyze> stumar, what did you run?
[16:18] <uddane> stumar: what's the exact error you're getting.... what version of ubuntu are you on?
[16:18] <stumar> Is this not a help chat room or am I not typing properly?
[16:19] <tyrog> Hey guys, Ubuntu 16.04 LTS GNOME terminal doesn't have tabbed terminal instances?
[16:19] <squinty> !patience
[16:19] <albacete> !patience
[16:19] <MonkeyDust> tyrog  ctrl-shift t for a new tab
[16:19] <stumar> Could someone help me please. I have just started to use Ubuntu & I like what I see, but having an issue with screensaver. I get a message when I start it , The xscreensaver daemon doesn't seem to be running on display ";o" I googled it & did what it said, but still get error message. What to do
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[16:20] <Pici> stumar: lsb_release -a
[16:21] <lolusux> ho, im using ubuntu mate and when i put my laptop in sleep mode it wont come back from it and the screen gets black and laptop gets very hot and i have to hard reboot, what could be the reason for this?
[16:21] <nomoney4me2> hi guys
[16:23] <curlyears> *sigh*/part #ubuntu
[16:23] <Pici> stumar: in a terminal. You should be able to press ctrl-alt-t to get to one if you can't find it on the menu.
[16:24] <Pici> lolusux, stumar: please repeat your questions, they probably got lost in the recent spam.
[16:25] <stumar> Could someone help me please. I have just started to use Ubuntu & I like what I see, but having an issue with screensaver. I get a message when I start it , The xscreensaver daemon doesn't seem to be running on display ";o" I googled it & did what it said, but still get error message. What to do
[16:26] <stumar> Pici: I went into terminal & typed what you said & it said No lsb command found
[16:26] <antiPoP> hi, I just upgraded to 16.04, and all the icons and menu items have disappeared from the xfce desktop. How can I get these back?
[16:26] <lolusux> im using ubuntu mate and when i put my laptop in sleep mode it wont come back from it and the screen gets black and laptop gets very hot and i have to hard reboot, what could be the reason for this?
[16:29] <ducasse> antiPoP: settings -> desktop -> icons -> icon type
[16:29] <antiPoP> ducasse, I dont't have a start menu working, no items there
[16:30] <ducasse> antiPoP: right click the desktop
[16:30] <antiPoP> ducasse same there
[16:31] <ducasse> antiPoP: then open a terminal and run xfce4-settings-manager
[16:31] <antiPoP> ducasse, it's empty
[16:32] <stumar> Pici:  I just opened my flash drive & it is 14.04, but yesterday It said there was an upgrade and so I clicked yes. So not sure now it it is 14.04 or 16.04.
[16:32] <ducasse> antiPoP: in that case something is seriously broken. ask in #xubuntu.
[16:32] <Pici> stumar: 16.04 upgrades from 14.04 are not being offered automatically until july, as part of the 16.04.1 point release, so it was probably just a regular system update.
[16:33] <antiPoP> ducasse, I already dis but no reply there. thanks anyway.
[16:34] <antiPoP> *did
[16:34] <stumar> Pici: ok. Well now that that is clear, can you help me with the issue of my xscreensaver & my  message about daemon doesn't seem to be running on display ";0"
[16:34] <ducasse> antiPoP: I have no other suggestions, I switched from xfce to i3 a while back.
[16:35] <antiPoP> np, thansk anyway
[16:35] <nicomachus> stumar: display ";0" makes it sound like someone put an extra character into the display name of the xscreensaver config
[16:35] <antiPoP> looking for this issue, seems related to bug 1509562 but the workaround there doe snot work for me
[16:38] <ducasse> antiPoP: xfce uses gtk, not qt, so that's not relevant. have you tried moving ~/.config/xfce4 out of the way and restart your session?
[16:39] <antiPoP> let me try...
[16:39] <ducasse> antiPoP: you might want to log out first and do it from a tty.
[16:40] <antiPoP> doing so...
[16:41] <wonko451> hello
[16:43] <ich_dien_> Aside from a cd, what is the safest place to get ubuntu?
[16:43] <ducasse> ich_dien_: ubuntu.com?
[16:44] <MonkeyDust> ich_dien_  http://www.ubuntu.com/download
[16:44] <ich_dien_> ducasse, yes but how SAFE are those downloads? Please indulge the paranoid
[16:45] <ducasse> check the checksum and gpg key
[16:45] <MonkeyDust> ich_dien_  what are you afraid of?
[16:45] <ich_dien_> ducasse, I know how to check the checksum but not gpgkey
[16:46] <ducasse> ich_dien_: there's a link to a guide on the download page
[16:47] <OerHeks> !md5sum
[16:47] <OerHeks> ich_dien_, so how safe is the pc you check the iso on?
[16:48] <ducasse> OerHeks: or the software you check it with, or the link you download it over, or... :)
[16:48] <Hesulan> ich_dien_: If you're *really* paranoid, download the image and checksum/gpg, check them, wait a few days, redownload the checksum/gpg, check them *again*, then google for news on "Ubuntu". If someone tampered with the official download or checksum/gpg, there will almost certainly be an article.
[16:49] <mcphail> Checking the md5sum only confirms the file is complete and intact. You must check the signatures to ensure it is from a trusted source
[16:49] <kasd> remove gksu of ubuntu 16.04?
[16:49] <nicomachus> kasd: what? no
[16:50] <nicomachus> do not remove gksu...
[16:50] <Guest19851> sup guys
[16:50] <kasd> nicomachus: ?
[16:52] <kasd> nicomachus: he no longer available ubuntu 16.04?
[16:52] <uddane> is Server 16.04 nvidia friendly? or do I need to wait till July for that one too?
[16:52] <OerHeks> !info gksu
 Are you saying that I need to take something out of that?
[16:52] <OerHeks> kasd, it is optional ( = not installed standard)
[16:52] <kasd>  Why is gksu no longer installed by default?
[16:53] <OerHeks> kasd, that has been policy for some time now.
[16:53] <kisb> uddane, its friendly
[16:53] <OerHeks> !info gksu trusty
[16:53] <Hesulan> uddane: nvidia is notorious for being not-linux-friendly, but I *think* I read somewhere that it 16.04 works on it, not sure about the server version
[16:53] <kasd> OerHeks: Now, how make me script works? kkk
[16:54] <OerHeks> kasd, install it?
[16:54] <kasd> OerHeks: 300 machines? kkk
[16:54] <OerHeks> kasd, so?
[16:55] <kasd> OerHeks: kkkk
[16:55] <kasd> OerHeks: okay bro
[16:55] <lyze> Hesulan, running nvidia drivers w/o problems here on 16.04
[16:55] <OerHeks> if one installs 300 machines, one must have heard of landscape
[16:55] <uddane> Hesulan: I've been fighting with FreeBSD for about 2 months trying to get the driver installed.. pretty much just need a server that can run a few tasks on my LAN...
[16:56] <Hesulan> I guess I should rephrase: nvidia is notorious for being not-open-source-friendly... apparently their proprietary *nix drivers are pretty good though
[16:57] <kasd> if [ "`id -u`" != "0" ] ; then gksudo $0
[16:57] <kasd> OerHeks: alternative front-end ?
[16:57] <OerHeks> !landscape
[16:58] <uddane> Hesulan: ok, now I'm wondering if I should stop trying to install the Freebsd package and just download and unroll
[16:58] <nicomachus> !info dsh | kasd this in addition to landscape
[17:00] <Baos> Still trying to figure out why an upgrade left me with no nivida driver
[17:00] <kasd> nicomachus: pay for that...
[17:00] <Baos> xenial from 3 days ago to xenial now
[17:01] <kltrg> I’m trying to set up VNC on a computer I can only access via SSH. I’m using x11vnc but the connection fails. I suspect the X server not running (correctly) on the distant computer since it used to be a Ubuntu Server. I installed gnome and xinit and ran startx. How can I check if the X server is indeed up and running?
[17:01] <kasd> nicomachus: version for free?
[17:01] <BrAsS_mOnKeY> hello
[17:02] <compdoc> kltrg, which gnome? not all are compatible with vnc or xrdp or x2go
[17:02] <BrAsS_mOnKeY> i'm trying to make a live disk.  I want to check the iso.. i'm using sha256sum.exe for windows but i'm getting a different hash
[17:02] <kltrg> gnome-session-fallback on Ubuntu 12.04
[17:02] <BrAsS_mOnKeY> probably not doing it right
[17:03] <uddane> OK I'm on 14.04 waiting for July to upgrade to 16.04 -- why am I being prompted to download updates off a 16.04 CD? errors out every time, even when I put the CD in the drive (I have already upgraded my laptop, that's why I have a CD)
[17:03] <nicomachus> uddane: just remove that source from your source listings.
[17:03] <teward> ^ that
[17:03] <teward> uddane: when the CD is inserted, the system checks to see what's on it briefly to try and ID the type of disk
[17:03] <BrAsS_mOnKeY> hey teward :D
[17:03] <uddane> nicomachus: ok, I'll wear the dunce hat... it never occured to me
[17:03] <teward> uddane: if it contains packages then it will prompt if you want to use it
[17:04] <teward> as a package repo
[17:04] <hnm> hi!
[17:04] <uddane> teward: that's what I thought too...
[17:04] <teward> uddane: so either remove it from your source lists, which you can do if it's in your sources list, or ignore the notice about it containing packages
[17:04] <iLembus> sometimes i can delete files using the ESC keys
[17:04] <iLembus> sometimes i cant
[17:04] <uddane> teward: but it till errors out, so I'll just remove the source
[17:04] <iLembus> when i can do it it shows "Move to trash" in the context menu ; when unavailable it just sais "Delete"
[17:05] <iLembus> is this expected ubuntu behaviour?
[17:05] <BrAsS_mOnKeY> can someone help me check this ubuntu iso?  I'd appreiate it :D
[17:05] <iLembus> when ESC key doesnt work other global hotkeys also stop working (i. e. Amarok music player)
[17:05] <teward> uddane: yeah remove the source, and hit "no" or "cancel" for the popups in the future
[17:05] <kltrg> compdoc, But even if gnome-session-fallback wasn’t compatible with VNC, would it matter? Doesn’t it fail prior to the desktop environment? "x11vnc was unable to open the X DISPLAY: ":0", it cannot continue."
[17:06] <nicomachus> kltrg: perhaps because the display should be named "0" not ":0"? or am I falling for this trick twice today?
[17:07] <antiPoP> ducasse, no luck
[17:07] <uddane> Thanks guys... updated like a champ!
[17:08] <kltrg> nicomachus, I ran the x11vnc command with -display 0 (instead of -display :0) and the result is the same. How can I check the X server is running and on which display?
[17:08] <ducasse> antiPoP: if you upgraded from 14.04 then you probably broke your install.
[17:09] <ducasse> ktosiek: ps ax | grep Xorg
[17:09] <antiPoP> ducasse, from 15.10, but I just hax xubuntu-base, not the full desktop
[17:11] <ducasse> antiPoP: well, your system sounds broken to me. you could try to reinstall xubuntu-core.
[17:11] <nicomachus> kltrg: sorry, I can't help beyond that. I just use ssh with the -X option if I need a graphical display.
[17:11] <kltrg> nicomachus, Thanks nevertheless.
[17:12] <kltrg> Is someone here to help with checking if I got the installation of X on Ubuntu Server right?
[17:12] <rantic> huh?\
[17:12] <OerHeks> kltrg, ps -ef | grep X   and look for a process just named "X" / or run "xdpyinfo" and see if it returns an zero
[17:13] <antiPoP> ducasse, how do I reinstall xubuntu minimal
[17:13] <antiPoP> ?
[17:13] <Kubius> Hello
[17:13] <rantic> kltrg: I'm late to the party but during the installation did you consult https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ServerGUI ?
[17:13] <ducasse> antiPoP: apt-get install --reinstall xubuntu-core
[17:13] <antiPoP> that onlu reisntall a package
[17:13] <OerHeks> some make funny lines > pidof X && echo "yup X server is running"
[17:13] <Kubius> I'm having a somewhat hard to find issue
[17:13] <rantic> kltrg: I guess the only 2 packages you'd want are xorg and xauth
[17:14] <Kubius> [   22.521156] dell_smm_hwmon: unable to get SMM Dell signature
[17:14] <antiPoP> in tasksel there is a metapackage, xubuntu-minimal-install
[17:14] <Kubius> every time I start up, that message pops up
[17:14] <Kubius> from what I've read I think that means the system is unable to control the fans
[17:14] <kltrg> OerHeks, ps doen’t give me an Y process and xdpyinfo gives me "xdpyinfo:  unable to open display ""."
[17:14] <Kubius> I'm trying to get this machine error-free before the weekend, and I have no idea how to resolve the issue
[17:15] <ducasse> kltrg: ps ax | grep Xorg
[17:15] <antiPoP> sudo apt-get install xubuntu-core^
[17:15] <MonkeyDust> OerHeks  pidof shows the same as pgrep
[17:15] <kltrg> ducasse,  3110 pts/2    S+     0:00 grep --color=auto Xorg
[17:16] <ducasse> kltrg: then X isn't running.
[17:17] <kltrg> ducasse, How can I start it? startx doesn’t give me error messages
[17:17] <ducasse> kltrg: errors would probably be in the X log file.
[17:17] <genii> Kubius: Can you manually load the module with: sudo modprobe dell_smm_hwmon force=1   ..after it's booted?
[17:18] <genii> work, afk
[17:18] <kltrg> Oh! I just found this process in ps "root      3939  3938  4 19:17 tty7     00:00:00 /usr/bin/X -nolisten tcp :0 -auth /tmp/serverauth.M6bJEx1khc" Is this the X process you were looking for?
[17:18] <ducasse> kltrg: yes, that's an X server.
[17:19] <Kubius> genii: Ran command, [  516.289372] dell_smm_hwmon: unable to get SMM Dell signature
[17:20] <kltrg> ducasse, I can’t find suspicious entries in the Xorg log file.
[17:21] <ducasse> kltrg: why do you need X locally on a server when you can run X programs over SSH?
[17:22] <kltrg> ducasse, I’d like to install a desktop environment on that server and access it via the network.
[17:23] <kltrg> Here is my Xorg.0.log: http://pastebin.com/TkgpAYAh
[17:23] <genii> Kubius: Looks like thats a sub-module of i8k module. Try loading that one with the force=1
[17:23] <ducasse> kltrg: your funeral ;) you can set up lightdm to start X and a VNC server for you, you know. that way you log in over the LAN via VNC.
[17:24] <Kubius> genii: tried "sudo modprobe i8k force=1", tried finding i8k in dmesg, nothing showed up
[17:24] <kltrg> ducasse, Sorry but I don’t understand. VNC is new to me. What would be your approach?
[17:25] <kltrg> ducasse, Sorry, I have to leave quickly. Can I come back to you? Are you here frequently?
[17:25] <ducasse> kltrg: set up lightdm as I said. if you hang on I can look for an example file I used to use.
[17:25] <qwtq> hola'
[17:26] <ducasse> kltrg: I'll be here a couple of hours now and again tomorrow.
[17:26] <kltrg> ducasse, Great. Let’s talk again then. I really appreciate your help.
[17:26] <ducasse> kltrg: I'll look for my example file for you.
[17:26] <qwtq> alguien que hable español?
[17:26] <kltrg> Thanks. Bye.
[17:27] <qwtq> help?
[17:27] <nacc> !ask | qwtq
[17:28] <ducasse> cd -
[17:30] <genii> Kubius: Does: lsmod | grep i8k   ...show a result?
[17:30] <Kubius> No
[17:30] <genii> Apologies on lag, work is quite busy today :-/
[17:31] <OerHeks> no apologies needed, genii, we are glad you have work :-)
[17:32] <therealtbe> is there a way to limit my upload speed?
[17:34] <ducasse> therealtbe: tc ?
[17:34] <iLembus> Sometimes i can delete files using the ESC keys and sometimes i cant
[17:34] <iLembus> when i can do it it shows "Move to trash" in the context menu ; when unavailable it just sais "Delete".
[17:34] <iLembus> Is this expected ubuntu behaviour?
[17:34] <iLembus> ESC key doesn't work other global hotkeys also stop working (i. e. Amarok music player)
[17:37] <iLembus> yea ok it seems to be a problem with trash folder owner
[17:37] <iLembus> i'll just chown that thing to me
[17:37] <genii> Kubius: Looks like bug 1509578
[17:38] <Kubius> genii: so I'm pretty much just screwed?
[17:38] <genii> Kubius: Your system does boot though, yes?
[17:38] <Kubius> Yes, it does
[17:39] <Kubius> I just don't know it has any ability to throttle up its fans in response to thermals
[17:39] <Kubius> or... even check the thermals
[17:39] <Kubius> and I'm concerned about this because I'm supposed to be giving this box to someone else soon
[17:39] <Kubius> who is only just apt enough to use Linux
[17:40] <genii> Kubius: Looks like there's also a few bugs against the i8k module filed at kernel.org, so a deeper issue seems to be at work here across different linux
[17:40] <Kubius> mmk
[17:41] <genii> Kubius: For instance, https://bugzilla.kernel.org/show_bug.cgi?id=100121
[17:41] <Kubius> I repasted the CPU recently, so hopefully it'll do OK despite the lack of fan throttle control
[17:42] <Kubius> well
[17:42] <Kubius> I'ma shove off
[17:42] <Kubius> bye
[17:47] <ipatrol> I'm trying to get the printing functions on a Canon PIXMA MG6300 to work
[17:47] <ipatrol> On 64 bit xenial
[17:48] <VickyAlee> hey all
[17:48] <rfleming> Hey VickyAlee
[17:50] <chromesettings> join
[17:50] <deus_> hi guys. got a little problem and maybe the united penguin force can help me
[17:50] <deus_> got myself a fresh Ubuntu 16.04 install. I have a High DPI monitor so i wanted to have a greater mouse sensitivity
[17:51] <deus_> sadly i cant find that in the system settings.
[17:51] <deus_> under "mouse/touchpad" it only has the bar for double click speed
[17:51] <kristian_on_linu> hi all
[17:51] <deus_> anyone knows whats up with that ?
[17:51] <mcphail> deus_: that's a known bug which doesn't seem to get any love
[17:52] <mcphail> deus_: as a workaround, install the lxinput package, open the lxinput app and adjust the sliders
[17:52] <deus_> mcphail, so how can i get this changed ?
[17:52] <mcphail> deus_: there is a bug report somewhere. Think it is upstream in GNOME
[17:53] <deus_> ah thx man! will try it and get back to you
[17:53] <ducasse> deus_: or just use xset.
[17:53] <ipatrol> mcphail: upstream GNOME bug == teeth pulling exercise
[17:54] <mcphail> ipatrol: I suspect you're correct
[17:54] <kristian_on_linu> I use kernel 4.6.0-rc5 on Ubuntu 14.04.4 because I had some wifi issues
[17:55] <kristian_on_linu> this seems to fix the wifi, but I got a login loop so I installed LXDM ... I can now log in, but I don't really get a desktop, just a mouse pointer
[17:55] <deus_> mcphail, ducasse thx guys! helped out! does that little program now appear in the system settings or do i have to start it over terminal?
[17:55] <kristian_on_linu> how can I make LXDM start the default Ubuntu desktop (Unity?)?
[17:55] <deniljoseph> i cant install kde connect here is the error log http://pastebin.com/dJ5sNFQy
[17:56] <mcphail> deus_: your settings will persist across reboots, but you have to launch it again if you suspend/resume
[17:56] <ipatrol> kristian_on_linu: LXDM and Unity are two seperate DEs
[17:56] <nacc> deniljoseph: what version of ubuntu?
[17:56] <deniljoseph> 14.04
[17:56] <ipatrol> you pick one or the other, not one launches the other
[17:56] <deniljoseph> nacc
[17:56] <deus_> well that sucks...
[17:57] <deus_> so every time i shut down my pc i have to reset those settings? or only if i lock it down?
[17:57] <nacc> deniljoseph: are you using any PPAs?
[17:57] <ipatrol> deus_: unless you write a systemd script to launch it
[17:57] <ducasse> ipatrol: lxdm is a display manager, so that's wrong.
[17:57] <mcphail> deus_: shut down/reboot is fine. Suspend/resume and your settings will be temporarily forgotten
[17:57] <deniljoseph> whats that nacc
[17:57] <kristian_on_linu> ipatrol, no ... LXD*E* and Unity are ...
[17:58] <kristian_on_linu> LXDM is just the login manager, afaik
[17:58] <ipatrol> ducasse: I don't think lxdm is compatible with GTK/Unity though
[17:58] <ipatrol> kristian_on_linu: no, ldm is the login manager
[17:58] <deus_> ah ok.. well good that i dont suspend my main machien then ^^ but seriously.. how is THAt a bug that isnt a main priority? i can imagine new users instantly jmping ship because of something so basic being not there
[17:58] <nacc> !ppa | deniljoseph
[17:58] <mcphail> deus_: tell me about it
[17:59] <kristian_on_linu> ipatrol, login managers are/should be independent of DEs
[17:59] <ducasse> ipatrol: why on earth not? it just launches the X session.
[17:59] <deniljoseph> i dnt think so
[17:59] <ipatrol> kristian_on_linu: should be, not that they are
[17:59] <kristian_on_linu> lxdm is, as far as I can see
[17:59] <deniljoseph> nah i m not using any of these @ nacc
[17:59] <deus_> mcphail, ducasse thx again guys. at least i can now play "enter the gungeon" competentely ^^
[17:59] <kristian_on_linu> so the question is, how do I make it start Unity?
[18:00] <mcphail> deus_: problem is, most mice (and most of the GNOME devs' mice) are correctly detected and bring up the sensitivity settings. We are the unlucky few
[18:00] <deus_> mcphail really? its a roccat mouse 0o i thought those would have some of the best support
[18:01] <deniljoseph> nacc any solution
[18:01] <ipatrol> deus_: support is generally proportional to how many *developers* use a particular piece of hardware
[18:01] <ducasse> kristian_on_linu: I think you can specify the default session to start in ~/.Xsession or something similar
[18:01] <kyle__> So, anyone know how to get the modules for the other cpu-speed-governors on ubuntu 16.04?  Is my only choice to build them myself?
[18:02] <ipatrol> roccat is a gaming mouse, if I understand correctly.
[18:02] <deniljoseph> any one plz help i cnt install kde connect on my ubuntu 14.05 here is the error http://pastebin.com/dJ5sNFQy
[18:02] <nomoney4me_> hi all
[18:02] <deus_> mcphail, ipatrol yeah... thats one of the major backsides of developement that doesnt actually "sell" a product. say what you want about FOSS, but if the devs dont actually follow the philosophy to the letter.. it can become pretty sloppy in some areas =(
[18:03] <mcphail> deus_: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-control-center/+bug/1132063
[18:03] <deus_> i think i already stumpled across that report in a google search
[18:03] <nacc> deniljoseph: i just spun up a lxc container with trusty and kdeconnect seems to be installing fine
[18:03] <deus_> wasnt it from 2015 ?
[18:03] <nacc> deniljoseph: are you running stock ubuntu or one of the derivatives?
[18:04] <ipatrol> deus_: Red Hat does in fact sell a product, and support is their bread and butter, but unless you purchase support from Canonical, you're not going to get that
[18:04] <mcphail> deus_: 2013
[18:04] <deus_> ah yeah just looked
[18:04] <michaelrose> so will 16.04 or 16.10 support installing directly to zfs?
[18:05] <nacc> michaelrose: not 16.04
[18:05] <nacc> michaelrose: i assume "installing directly" you mean as the root fs
[18:05] <michaelrose> nacc, yes
[18:05] <nacc> michaelrose: i don't think anything has been declared as to 16.10
[18:05] <deus_> i kinda thought its already been put to sleep since there was no comment younger than 2013. but i am not knowledgeable enough on the bug-patching process in gnome/unity
[18:06] <tgm4883> I don't think grub supports booting from ZFS does it?
[18:06] <nacc> tgm4883: i think it does actually
[18:06] <EriC^^> me too
[18:06] <nacc> tgm4883: well, not sure if ubuntu's does, but there is some guidelines online for doing it
[18:06] <EriC^^> it does for btrfs i think
[18:06] <michaelrose> I have a zfs root, ext boot
[18:06] <nacc> it's just not supported by ubuntu
[18:06] <ipatrol> deus_: latest comment was last week
[18:06] <mcphail> deus_: it is marked as "in progress". Might be worth poking the assigned dev
[18:06] <michaelrose> I think its now possible to have a zfs boot now too
[18:06] <nacc> tgm4883: but i really don't know
[18:07] <deus_> ipatrol, 0o really? mom maybe i oversaw that
[18:07] <mcphail> "You can always get me on IRC. Just highlight me and I'll usually see it. I will also respond to emails."
[18:07] <gumbo> so
[18:07] <gumbo> how do i make a partition  larger
[18:08] <gumbo> im on ubuntu 14.04 ive read some things but its still unclear
[18:08] <deus_> ipatrol, mcphail OH! the comments are in descending order! dont see that oiften 0o
[18:08] <mcphail> deus_: best way. Top posting is evil
[18:08] <ipatrol> deus_: that's typical for bugtrackers
[18:09] <CarlFK> how can I install this package, but use the ubuntu repos for the dependencies, https://packages.debian.org/sid/voctomix-core
[18:09] <ducasse> gumbo: backup first, then boot from a CD or USB and use gparted.
[18:09] <deus_> ipatrol, mcphail well again im not that experienced with that progress ^^ and its still pretty uncommon. so a noob like me might get confused ^^
[18:09] <ipatrol> and imageboards, and forums, and mailing lists, and pretty much everything else that isn't Reddit
[18:09] <gumbo> alright=/
[18:10] <ducasse> CarlFK: gdebi
[18:10] <buntunoob> Anyone knows of a terminal that will log everything you write to it?
[18:10] <CarlFK> ducasse:  ive heard of that.  do I need to wget or will it take http://http.us.debian.org/debian/pool/main/v/voctomix/voctomix-core_0.3.1-1_all.deb
[18:10] <gumbo> that seems more like a personal keylogger buntunoob
[18:10] <ipatrol> buntunoob: ~/.bash_history
[18:10] <gumbo> ^
[18:11] <ducasse> CarlFK: you need to wget it.
[18:11] <buntunoob> gumbo, going through training, I'd like to have a way to go back to the shit I write.
[18:11] <deus_> ipatrol, mcphail well once again thank you guys! you helped me out a lot
[18:11] <nacc> CarlFK: dont' do that.
[18:11] <deus_> ipatrol, mcphail cya
[18:11] <CarlFK> lol
[18:11] <nacc> CarlFK: as in, don't install random debian .debs
[18:11] <mcphail> deus_: generally, sensible tech people post at the bottom of lists/emails. Allows you to keep reading things in correct order
[18:12] <buntunoob> ipatrol, tried that. Issue is that it takes me to the history of the machine I'm SSHed to :(
[18:12] <gumbo> you could do this
[18:12] <kyle__> CarlFK: The number of places I see curl <some random url>|sudo scares me.
[18:12] <ducasse> buntunoob: script
[18:12] <gumbo> like history >> file
[18:12] <michaelrose> basically latest version in funtoo which is 2.02-beta3 can support an exclusively zfs system so logically its feasible on ubuntu as well too bad its not supported in the installer because you lose a good bit of the benefit of zfs if you can't use it for your root fs
[18:12] <ipatrol> kyle__: https://curlpipesh.tumblr.com/
[18:13] <CarlFK> um.. i'm not sure this qualifies as random.   I kinda helped package it: http://layer-acht.org/thinking/blog/20160428-voctomix/
[18:13] <nacc> CarlFK: no, i mean if it's not pacakged for Ubuntu, then .... don't install a Debian .deb
[18:13] <nacc> mixing versions is not a good idea
[18:13] <nacc> CarlFK: fine, random was a poor choice of words, "arbitrary"
[18:14] <nacc> michaelrose: no, the point of zfs on ubuntu is primarily for data-storage, particular for lxc/lxd
[18:14] <buntunoob> ducasse, do I need to run 'script' only once, or does it have to be done in each individual terminal instance (tab), and each machine I SSH to^
[18:14] <michaelrose> really depends on your use case doesn't it?
[18:14] <ipatrol> kyle__: unfortunately, the reason why people do it is because in the absence of a single package manager, it's a very portable way to distribute software
[18:14] <CarlFK> nacc: not installing it is a worse idea.
[18:15] <tgm4883> Snaps!
[18:15] <ducasse> buntunoob: in each tab/terminal instance
[18:15] <nacc> tgm4883: :)
[18:15] <michaelrose> someone should make a very basic cli zfs installer wouldn't be terribly hard
[18:15] <nacc> michaelrose: there are online guides for how to do it
[18:15] <BrAsS_mOnKeY> help, i'm getting a different hash on my ubuntu iso than from their site.
[18:15] <nacc> michaelrose: just not supported
[18:15] <BrAsS_mOnKeY> any ideas why?
[18:15] <rfleming> BrAsS_mOnKeY, bad download
[18:16] <michaelrose> yep it would be super easy to turn a guide into a basic shell script
[18:16] <buntunoob> ducasse, gneh. Thanks!
[18:16] <BrAsS_mOnKeY> ok
[18:16] <tgm4883> BrAsS_mOnKeY: your download is broken. I'd feed it into a torrent and have that fix it
[18:16] <tgm4883> or zsync
[18:16] <kyle__> ipatrol: Yeah, but it's almost half-way acceptible for a dev box, but people suggest installing things to production that way.
[18:16] <kyle__> And it makes me cry.
[18:16] <BrAsS_mOnKeY>  tgm4883, how?
[18:16] <ipatrol> michaelrose: which, again, goes back to the curl-pipe-sh problem
[18:16] <nacc> michaelrose: let me just say installers aren't shell scripts :)
[18:16] <tgm4883> BrAsS_mOnKeY: which ISO is it
[18:16] <rfleming> nacc, they can be :)
[18:16] <michaelrose> but shell scripts can be installers
[18:17] <BrAsS_mOnKeY> 16.04
[18:17] <ipatrol> the thing about using a guide as opposed to an installer script, is that the end user knows, sees, and verifies each stage of the process
[18:17] <tgm4883> BrAsS_mOnKeY: are you currently on ubuntu?
[18:17] <CarlFK> what happened to the bash helper that would tell me what package something was in?  now I just get -bash: gdebi: command not found
[18:17] <nacc> rfleming: heh, ok, you got me. ubuntu's installer is not a shell script :)
[18:17] <BrAsS_mOnKeY> no
[18:17] <BrAsS_mOnKeY> win 10
[18:18] <ipatrol> it's time consuming and inconvenient, but it's secure as long as you have somewhat of an idea of what those commands do
[18:18] <michaelrose> CarlFK, you can do that with apt I thought
[18:18] <nacc> michaelrose: so, what i was trying to say earlier, was that hte "supported" use-case of zfs for ubuntu 16.04 is datastore. You can of ocurse do whatever you want ... but support isn't present :)
[18:18] <michaelrose> nacc, makes sense
[18:18] <nacc> CarlFK: command-not-found, iirc
[18:18] <tgm4883> BrAsS_mOnKeY: is the iso AMD64?
[18:18] <ducasse> CarlFK: I think it's called command-not-found. gdebi is in gdebi-core
[18:18] <rfleming> nacc, that's true
[18:18] <nacc> michaelrose: and hopefully as time goes on, things will get added for zfs
[18:18] <michaelrose> on another topic has any other distro not ubuntu based indicated they intent to support snappy?
[18:19] <BrAsS_mOnKeY> ye
[18:19] <BrAsS_mOnKeY> ss
[18:19] <BrAsS_mOnKeY> looks like sexting :D
[18:19] <rfleming> michaelrose, oracle has made (literally) billions on zfs, I think it's pretty good already :)
[18:19] <BrAsS_mOnKeY> ubuntu-16.04-desktop-amd64
[18:19] <tgm4883> BrAsS_mOnKeY: ok, then so you'll need to grab whatever torrent software you trust in windows 10, then grab the torrent file from http://releases.ubuntu.com/16.04/ubuntu-16.04-desktop-amd64.iso.torrent then open the torrent software, and the torrent file and "save" it in the same location as your broken ISO file. It should  (if it's decent torrent software)
[18:19] <tgm4883> check what is downloaded already and redlownload the broken parts
[18:19] <CarlFK> Setting up command-not-found (0.3ubuntu16.04) ...  ; juser@cnt3:/etc/voctomix$ gdebi ; -bash: gdebi: command not found
[18:19] <tgm4883> usually, i'd just use zsync, but IDK if there is a windows way to do that
[18:19] <michaelrose> rfleming, yep its great
[18:20] <BrAsS_mOnKeY> i did resume on a broswer download
[18:20] <BrAsS_mOnKeY> but it pieced it back together
[18:20] <rfleming> BrAsS_mOnKeY, whatever works for you
[18:20] <michaelrose> CarlFK, what you are looking for is apt-file
[18:20] <ipatrol> kyle__: to a point, running any software you found off the internet is insecure. Much of the security of Linux comes from package managers being a sort of walled garden.
[18:20] <ducasse> CarlFK: you need to re-parse the bash startup scripts
[18:20] <tgm4883> BrAsS_mOnKeY: a browser download doesn't checksum the file.
[18:21] <ducasse> CarlFK: or just log out and in again
[18:21] <michaelrose> apt-file update to update its database, then apt-file find somefile
[18:21] <rfleming> BrAsS_mOnKeY, you may need to re-download the image, or use a bit torrent client, if the browser download keeps failing
[18:21] <BrAsS_mOnKeY> i downloaded the is iso from ubuntu.com
[18:21] <CarlFK> \o/ The program 'gdebi' is currently not installed. You can install it by typing: sudo apt install gdebi-core
[18:21] <tgm4883> BrAsS_mOnKeY: so?
[18:21] <BrAsS_mOnKeY> this internet connection is so slow.. itd take too long.  Id rather try to torrent software.
[18:22] <ipatrol> otherwise you could get any id10t to run an installer script under sudo that is then free to put in a rootkit
[18:22] <nacc> michaelrose: two different things; apt-file will let you query the database of pacakge contents; command-not-found is a shell extension (sort of) that will try to lookup in the cnf database when a command is not found and tell you what pakcage provides the command
[18:22] <rfleming> BrAsS_mOnKeY, if you think that is best, then go ahead.
[18:22] <tgm4883> BrAsS_mOnKeY: yes, torrent is the better way to get it
[18:22] <michaelrose> both useful
[18:22] <BrAsS_mOnKeY> i'll try utorrent
[18:23] <BrAsS_mOnKeY> something about torrents make me suspicious. lol
[18:23] <tgm4883> the only way a browser download is useful is if your network blocks torrents
[18:23] <michaelrose> ipatrol, there always ends up being a tradeoff between degrees of security and convenience
[18:23] <BrAsS_mOnKeY> something about torrents that seems suspicious, rater.
[18:23] <BrAsS_mOnKeY> rather*
[18:23] <tgm4883> BrAsS_mOnKeY: no reason to be suspicious of torrents if you get the .torrent file from a trusted source
[18:23] <michaelrose> BrAsS_mOnKeY, only to the uninitiated torrents are heavily used to distribute free software
[18:24] <ipatrol> michaelrose: always
[18:24] <tgm4883> For linux ISOs, IMHO   zsync > torrent > direct download
[18:24] <michaelrose> it fits in very well with open source software because you are helping distribute the software you are benefiting from
[18:25] <michaelrose> its a very basic simple way you can give back a little
[18:25] <ipatrol> tgm4883: zsync is only better than torrents if you already have an older ISO
[18:25] <squinty> BrAsS_mOnKeY, http://www.ubuntu.com/download/alternative-downloads
[18:25] <nvms> didn't know about zync.. very nice
[18:25] <tgm4883> ipatrol: you mean you don't have a cron job that zync's the latest daily :)
[18:25] <nvms> zsync*
[18:25] <deniljoseph> naac i m running ubuntu 14.04 lts
[18:26] <ipatrol> tgm4883: no...
[18:26] <deniljoseph> nacc
[18:26] <nacc> deniljoseph: did you manually install any packages or anything?
[18:26] <deniljoseph> i m running ubuntu 14.04 lts
[18:27] <deniljoseph> i installed the bcm drivers
[18:27] <michaelrose> I always end up running a combination of distro provided software, software provided by alternative repo, software installed via language specific package managers eg pip and app provided addon system eg vim plugins and firefox addons, and a small ammount of stuff built by me
[18:27] <deniljoseph> nacc thts all i installed from the iso
[18:27] <michaelrose> if you think about it the ultimate attack surface is enormous
[18:28] <deniljoseph> and installed everything else from the app store
[18:28] <rubiksmomo> Any idea why I get a blank black screen for minutes until the login screen appears when using nvidia?   lightdm.log: http://paste.ubuntu.com/16226354/   x-0-greeter.log: http://paste.ubuntu.com/16226364/   x-0.log: http://paste.ubuntu.com/16226370/
[18:28] <Yamikan> ce génocide
[18:29] <BurntToast> Q: I have a remote machine whose HD has gone read only (cant sudo or su root).  Any thoughts on rebooting it without either?  I wonder be able to physically power cycle it for a few days.
[18:29] <nacc> deniljoseph: hrm, can you run `apt-get install kdeconnect libqca2 libc6 libkcmutils4 libkdecore5 libkdeui5 libkio5 libqjson0 libqt4-dbus libqt4-declarative libqt4-network libqtcore4 libqtgui4 libstdc++6` and do not say 'yes', but pastebin the output?
[18:29] <deniljoseph> nacc any idea
[18:29] <deniljoseph> k lemme run
[18:30] <nacc> deniljoseph: basically, i'm trying to tell apt to forcibly install the conflicting pacakges, and see what is actually conflicting
[18:30] <nacc> deniljoseph: apt won't recursively tell us by itself, unofrtunately
[18:30] <nacc> deniljoseph: but almost certainly it's something below it that's conflicting
[18:31] <deniljoseph> nacc here is the log
[18:31] <deniljoseph> http://pastebin.com/Uf9enxA1
[18:32] <deniljoseph> nacc
[18:32] <administrador> Hi. Has anyone succesfully instaled AMD's GPUPRO Beta drivers ? i can only get  so far: http://pastebin.com/xeDw3W7L Any idea on how to solve this? I am using Lubuntu 14.04 64bits
[18:33] <spupy> hi, does the ubuntu live CD include gparted? if not, can I install it while running the live cd? (well, usb, actually)
[18:33] <nacc> deniljoseph: ok, add 'kde-runtime' to the list
[18:33] <lyze> spupy, Don't know. Yes you can
[18:33] <tgm4883> spupy: no it doesn't, but yes you can
[18:34] <spupy> lyze, tgm4883: thanks for the answers!
[18:34] <lyze> spupy, if you boot into "try ubuntu" mode and not into "install mode" then you can use the terminal as usual (sudo apt-get install gparted) to install it c:
[18:34] <squinty> spupy,  usually includes gparted  don't really see why it would be excluded from the current release
[18:36] <squinty> spupy,  gparted is not part of the default full install though, so if you need it after installing then you will need to install gparted (using apt, apt-get etc)
[18:36] <rubiksmomo> Any idea why I get a blank black screen for minutes until the login screen appears when using nvidia?   lightdm.log: http://paste.ubuntu.com/16226354/   x-0-greeter.log: http://paste.ubuntu.com/16226364/   x-0.log: http://paste.ubuntu.com/16226370/
[18:38] <deniljoseph> nacc
[18:38] <squinty> rubiksmomo, Start a reboot and hold down the Shift key. Press the e key on getting the GRUB bootloader. Using arrow keys navigate to and delete quiet and splash. Press Ctrl and X at the same time to continue booting   that will give a test display of the boot up and you might be able to see where it is hanging then
[18:39] <deniljoseph> nacc
[18:39] <deniljoseph> http://pastebin.com/kGpf1bQQ
[18:39] <deniljoseph> more errors again
[18:39] <deniljoseph> :|
[18:40] <rubiksmomo> squinty, I have empty command line in grub file. Still just blank/black screen for 10-30min on every boot
[18:40] <arun_> Hello guys, please help me connect my bluetooth headset with my PC. I am able to connect but its not wokring
[18:41] <deniljoseph> nacc i gtg will look into this tomorrow bye tx for the help anyway :)
[18:41] <antiPoP> ducasse I fixed it thanks
[18:42] <ducasse> rubiksmomo: 'systemd-analyze blame' will show you what startup tasks takes a long time
[18:42] <ducasse> antiPoP: good, you're welcome :)
[18:43] <squinty> rubiksmomo,  maybe look for long time gaps in dmesg then.  dmesg | less  to page through it
[18:43] <rubiksmomo> ducasse, systemd-analyze: command not found. Running Ubuntu 14.04.4 LTS 64bit
[18:44] <rubiksmomo> squinty, Where's the time?
[18:44] <ducasse> rubiksmomo: oh, sorry, then. only available for >=15.04
[18:44] <squinty> rubiksmomo, 14.04 does run systemd
[18:44] <squinty> doesn't
[18:44] <squinty> rubiksmomo, on the far left
[18:45] <rubiksmomo> squinty,  dmesg: http://paste.ubuntu.com/16244618/
[18:45] <squinty> rubiksmomo,  sorry but I don't have the time right to be wading through dmesg
[18:47] <ducasse> rubiksmomo: looks like network configuration takes all that time
[18:48] <rubiksmomo> ducasse, Yes indeed. I have to wait for a long time for it to connect to my WiFi hotspot (which isn't always on)
[18:48] <Skizu> I'm getting 404 when trying to install mailutils
[18:49] <ducasse> rubiksmomo: well, you could set it up to not automatically start the network on boot.
[18:49] <rubiksmomo> ducasse, OK, how? And how do I start the network then?
[18:50] <Jordan_U> Skizu: Try running "sudo apt update" then try "sudo apt install package" again.
[18:51] <ducasse> rubiksmomo: you using network manager?
[18:51] <rubiksmomo> ducasse, I don't know. It connects automatically when it finds my WiFi hotspot (with delay up to 15min or so)
[18:52] <Skizu> Jordan_U: Thank you and wish me luck
[18:52] <hyper_ch> hi there, I have trouble installing mysql-server... it keeps aborting
[18:53] <ducasse> rubiksmomo: click the network manager applet, select edit connections, select your network id, general, uncheck automatically connect.
[18:53] <hyper_ch> https://paste.simplylinux.ch/view/8f5e9b3c
[18:53] <hyper_ch> also, why is the terminal in german when I have set the language to english
[18:54] <Skizu> Jordan_U: I have a simple webbox, need to send emails such as new user and such, not a dev ops guy really, but been thrown this job
[18:54] <Skizu> Would you be able to point me in the right direction
[18:54] <EriC^^> hyper_ch: did you log out and back in?
[18:54] <BrAsS_mOnKeY> ok i downloaded utorrent
[18:55] <rubiksmomo> ducasse, OK. So now the login screen should appear right away and I have to connect WiFi manually?
[18:55] <hyper_ch> EriC^^: no, but why did the terminal get german in the first place
[18:55] <EriC^^> maybe you installed with german locale?
[18:56] <hyper_ch> I did, but selected en_US.utf8 as default
[18:56] <ducasse> rubiksmomo: it should, yes, and you need to connect manually.
[18:57] <rubiksmomo> ducasse, I'll try it. Thanks.
[18:57] <ducasse> rubiksmomo: np. hope it works, I never use network manager myself.
[19:00] <arunpyasi> Hello guys, please help me connect my bluetooth headset with my PC. I am able to connect but its not wokring
[19:01] <ducasse> arunpyasi: is the package pulseaudio-module-bluetooth installed?
[19:01] <Rubiksmomo> There is still a long delay before the login screen appears, even I disabled WiFi autoconnect
[19:02] <Skizu> Rubiksmomo: That's due to network resolution
[19:02] <Skizu> Aka trying to resolve a network, the delay is the time out
[19:02] <arunpyasi> ducasse: yes, its installed already
[19:02] <Rubiksmomo> It has a 15min timeout?
[19:02] <Rubiksmomo> Or so
[19:06] <Rubiksmomo> Any idea how to avoid the 10-30min delay till the login screen appears when using nvidia?
[19:07] <ducasse> arunpyasi: maybe it's not loaded, or you need to enable the bluetooth output device with pavucontrol.
[19:08] <chrisml> how do i purge and remove the apt repo as in 4th para - https://launchpad.net/~mc3man/+archive/ubuntu/trusty-media ?
[19:08] <nick_name_123451> Is there an automated way to install windows after Ubuntu?
[19:08] <OerHeks> nick_name_123451, no.
[19:09] <arunpyasi> ducasse: I can see the bluetooth device there but it doesn't work
[19:09] <OerHeks> nick_name_123451, we suggest strongly to install windows first.
[19:10] <nick_name_123451> OerHeks, I already have a computer with an ubuntu install
[19:10] <squinty> chrisml,  should be able to use the purge command listed at the very bottom of that page
[19:10] <ducasse> arunpyasi: is it muted? that's the last suggestion i've got, sorry. try google.
[19:11] <chrisml> ducasse thank you. then apt-get update?
[19:11] <chrisml> sorry squinty not ducasse ;D
[19:11] <rajiv_> what is the command for completely remove a program?
[19:11] <squinty> chrisml,  yes run update after
[19:11] <chrisml> squinty ta
[19:12] <squinty> rajiv_,  sudo apt purge <package name>
[19:12] <OerHeks> nick_name_123451, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsDualBoot#Install_Ubuntu_after_Windows
[19:12] <Skizu> Urg why can't I send mail god damn i
[19:12] <rajiv_> squinty: thank you.
[19:13] <OerHeks> !language | Skizu no need for that.
[19:13] <squinty> rajiv_,  check your home directory for left over files and use your file manager to delete them.  ie  .<package name>
[19:15] <Skizu> I cry all the time
[19:16] <BrAsS_mOnKeY> well.. i did the torrent thing but it still has the same sha256sum hash
[19:17]  * Skizu it was at this moment he knew... sending a mail is damn hard
[19:18] <ducasse> BrAsS_mOnKeY: did you say you were doing this under windows? if so, where did you get the checksum tool? could be bogus.
[19:18] <BrAsS_mOnKeY> online sha256sum.exe
[19:19] <BrAsS_mOnKeY> i think its legit because windows has built in program and it said the same thing
[19:19] <BrAsS_mOnKeY> certutil -hashfile (file)
[19:19] <BrAsS_mOnKeY> and it gives same hash so it must be correct
[19:20] <ducasse> BrAsS_mOnKeY: which image is this, and what checksum do you get?
[19:21] <BrAsS_mOnKeY> ubuntu-16.04-desktop-amd64
[19:22] <BrAsS_mOnKeY> 4bcec83ef856c50c6866f3b0f3942e011104b5ecc6d955d1e7061faff86070d4 *ubuntu-16.04-desktop-amd64.iso
[19:22] <Dumle29> anyone with some linux CAD experience? I'm in need of a program that can take a step file, and export it to dxf, with some specific settings.  DXF R14, lines arcs lwpolylines, and mm units.
[19:22] <ducasse> BrAsS_mOnKeY: that's what I get also.
[19:22] <SonikkuAmerica> BrAsS_mOnKeY, ducasse - what mirror?
[19:23] <Dumle29> I've yet to find some cad I can get to settings like that
[19:23] <bekks> BrAsS_mOnKeY: And whats the issue with that file?
[19:23] <ducasse> SonikkuAmerica: I grabbed mine from releases.ubuntu.com, no idea what that resolved to.
[19:23] <SonikkuAmerica> ducasse: nvm, I was looking at MD5.
[19:24] <SonikkuAmerica> SHA256 is correct.
[19:25] <BrAsS_mOnKeY> well.. im getting a different has from their site sha256sum
[19:25] <BrAsS_mOnKeY> hash*
[19:25] <BrAsS_mOnKeY> but apparently mine is good :)
[19:26] <rajiv_> Is it necessary to restart the computer after completely removed a package by using the command "sudo apt purge <package name>?
[19:26] <ducasse> BrAsS_mOnKeY: the file should be good, where on the site did you get the other hash?
[19:27] <BrAsS_mOnKeY> http://releases.ubuntu.com/xenial/
[19:28] <teward> BrAsS_mOnKeY: "their site"  <-- what "site" is this?  Are we talking about the hash sums on releases.ubuntu.com, or the hash sum generated by the tool you used online?
[19:28] <ducasse> BrAsS_mOnKeY: looks good to me...
[19:29] <BrAsS_mOnKeY> ubuntu, teward
[19:29] <lyze> rajiv_, normally not
[19:29]  * BrAsS_mOnKeY tases teward :D
[19:30] <BrAsS_mOnKeY> i'm getting fcb989c06b1631e621e02bd060c732baa22db319dc4eba88a22cd821cca31825 *sha256sums
[19:31] <teward> BrAsS_mOnKeY: why are you trying to sha256sum the hash sums file
[19:31] <rajiv_> lyze: How would i know if i need a restart after doing that?
[19:31] <teward> BrAsS_mOnKeY: your output there shows the hash sum of the sha256sums file - NOT the ISO
[19:31] <teward> BrAsS_mOnKeY: what tool are you using to generate that sum?
[19:31] <BrAsS_mOnKeY> two
[19:32] <BrAsS_mOnKeY> sha256sum.exe for windows and Certutil (built into windows)  Both give that hash
[19:32] <lyze> rajiv_, totally depends on the package. but if it's some small packages, apache2 or something more smaller then. you don't need to do a thing there. If it's for example something gui related, graphics card drivers. then you'd need to restart the x server... or simply restart the computer then c:
[19:33] <ducasse> BrAsS_mOnKeY: but that's the hash for the wrong file :)
[19:33] <teward> BrAsS_mOnKeY: you're checking the hashes on the wrong file
[19:33] <teward> BrAsS_mOnKeY: you need to generate a hash sum for the ISO
[19:33] <teward> NOT the 'sha256sums' file
[19:33] <BrAsS_mOnKeY> Well... i thought i did
[19:34] <tgm4883> BrAsS_mOnKeY: what's the exact command you use to hash the file?
[19:34] <BrAsS_mOnKeY> certutil -hashfile (file) sha256
[19:35] <tgm4883> BrAsS_mOnKeY: well if that's the command, you aren't hashing anything really. I'm thinking you need to replace "file" with the filename of the ISO
[19:35] <rubiksmomo> I'm running Ubuntu 14.04.4 LTS 64bit on HP Omen with GeForce GTX 960M + Intel. Any idea why I get a blank black screen for 10-30min until the login screen appears when using nvidia? Also takes ages for Ubuntu to detect&connect to my WiFi hotspot.  lightdm.log: http://paste.ubuntu.com/16226354/   x-0-greeter.log: http://paste.ubuntu.com/16226364/   x-0.log: http://paste.ubuntu.com/16226370/   dmesg: http://paste.ubuntu.com/16244618/
[19:36] <BrAsS_mOnKeY> and for the iso, sha256sum ubuntu-16.04-desktop-amd64.iso
[19:36] <BrAsS_mOnKeY> ad it gives the same hash that you have
[19:36] <BrAsS_mOnKeY> and*
[19:36] <teward> BrAsS_mOnKeY: rely on sha256sum and not certutil
[19:36] <tgm4883> BrAsS_mOnKeY: can you screenshot the output of that command?
[19:36] <tgm4883> I'm confused as to what you are saying
[19:37] <MonkeyDust> BrAsS_mOnKeY  what are you struggling with?
[19:37] <teward> tgm4883: MonkeyDust: he's getting different output of hash sums - sha256sum.exe shows correct, certutil shows wrong.
[19:37] <teward> but he's not using it right i believe
[19:37] <teward> for certutil
[19:37] <BrAsS_mOnKeY> MonkeyDust, matching the sha256sum from the ubuntu site with the iso sha256sum
[19:38] <tgm4883> teward: so sha256sum.exe shows the same hash as what's on the website?
[19:38] <MonkeyDust> BrAsS_mOnKeY  why is that important? are you experiencing issues?
[19:38] <teward> tgm4883: according to BrAsS_mOnKeY, yes
[19:38] <BrAsS_mOnKeY> teward, no sha256sum.exe and certutil so the same hash that is correct with tgm4883.
[19:38] <Bashing-om> rubiksmomo: Nother thought. From grub how long does it take to boot to terminal . And once in terminal .. start the GUI . errors reportd ? how long to GUI ?
[19:38] <tgm4883> ...
[19:38] <teward> BrAsS_mOnKeY: you need to be more clear.
[19:38] <tgm4883> BrAsS_mOnKeY: I want to see a screenshot
[19:38] <BrAsS_mOnKeY> but not with downloaded sha256sum from ubuntu.com
[19:39] <BrAsS_mOnKeY> MonkeyDust, wanting to burn a live disk.
[19:39] <Nitrigaur> I'm using two monitors. Can I tie a monitor setup (1 or 2 monitors active) to different user profiles?
[19:39] <Nitrigaur> Using Ubuntu 14.04
[19:39] <BrAsS_mOnKeY> no\
[19:39] <BrAsS_mOnKeY> different
[19:39] <bekks> Nitrigaur: No.
[19:39] <ducasse> BrAsS_mOnKeY: you were comparing the hash of the checksum file to the hash of the iso.
[19:40] <nuno_nunes> Nitrigaur, ubuntu 14.04 is not supported
[19:40] <BrAsS_mOnKeY> certutil, sha256sum.exe show what tgm4883 has but different from the site when I use command sha256sum (iso)
[19:40] <rubiksmomo> Bashing-om, seconds, I don't see any errors. It just asks for the encryption key and after couple seconds I hear the login sound. Then after 10-30min when I press some button the login screen appears.
[19:40] <BrAsS_mOnKeY> ducasse, yes.
[19:40] <tgm4883> BrAsS_mOnKeY: I'm done helping until I see a screenshot
[19:40] <bekks> Nitrigaur: 14.04 is supported until 2019.
[19:40] <tgm4883> bekks: I think you mjean nuno_nunes
[19:40] <rajiv_> someone please tell me the names of some decent download managers for ubuntu.
[19:40] <bekks> tgm4883: indeed.
[19:41] <Nitrigaur> Indeed it is :-)
[19:41] <bekks> rajiv_: wget
[19:41] <tgm4883> rajiv_: bittorrent
[19:41] <rajiv_> bekks: some gui based
[19:41] <tgm4883> firefox
[19:41] <bekks> rajiv_: start a terminal, run wget :)
[19:41] <BrAsS_mOnKeY> tgm4883, i dont know how to save pic
[19:41] <BrAsS_mOnKeY> lol
[19:41] <BrAsS_mOnKeY> :)
[19:41] <BrAsS_mOnKeY> lemme try to find paint on here
[19:42] <rajiv_> gekks:gui based like IDM
[19:42] <tgm4883> BrAsS_mOnKeY: use the built in screenshot utility?
[19:42] <bekks> rajiv_: I have no clue what IDM is.
[19:42] <tgm4883> BrAsS_mOnKeY: and copy and paste it to http://imgur.com/
[19:42] <Bashing-om> rubiksmomo: Ouch, again "
[19:42] <tgm4883> or whereever
[19:42] <bekks> rajiv_: Maybe you get used to the concept that Linux doesnt need download managers, as windows does.
[19:42] <Nitrigaur> Let me phrase my question a bit differently: Is it possible to switch between monitor profiles using a bash script? I'm using the proprietary driver of nVidia
[19:42] <rajiv_> bekks: internet download manager
[19:43] <tgm4883> Nitrigaur: what do you mean, "monitor profiles"
[19:43] <EriC^^> rajiv_: uget is what you wan
[19:43] <Bashing-om>  rubiksmomo "" encryption key " . I do know know what to expect in such an environment .
[19:43] <Nitrigaur> tgm4883, I mean different setups, as in 1 or 2 monitors active.
[19:43] <EriC^^> *want, also download aria2 as it can be integrated with uget for multithreading when it's needed
[19:43] <ducasse> BrAsS_mOnKeY:
[19:44] <ducasse> Nitrigaur: xrandr, maybe?
[19:44] <OerHeks> filezilla has got a nice GUI
[19:44] <MonkeyDust> Nitrigaur  maybe with 'xdotool'
[19:44] <EriC^^> rajiv_: also if you're using firefox install the flashgot addon so you can choose to use aria2c when clicking links or uget maybe
[19:44] <rubiksmomo> Bashing-om, I'd imagine it's same as unencrypted once decrypted. I don't think the issue is encryption related as I do hear the login sound and all.
[19:44] <MonkeyDust> Nitrigaur  with it, you can program key presses
[19:45] <Nitrigaur> MonkeyDust, ah, interesting... Yes, I can see how to may work. Thank you for the suggestion!
[19:45] <MonkeyDust> !info xdotool
[19:45] <Nitrigaur> to => that
[19:45] <BrAsS_mOnKeY> http://imgur.com/ge9xBvO
[19:46] <OerHeks> rubiksmomo, is this still your issue? rubiksmomo_>	Is it a problem that my nvidia-settings is version 364.15 but my nvidia is 361.42?
[19:46] <OerHeks> (from yesterday)
[19:46] <ducasse> Nitrigaur: try xrandr too, should be easier to script
[19:47] <rubiksmomo> OerHeks, Not sure if it's related to these delays with login screen and WiFi.
[19:47] <Nitrigaur> ducasse, unfortunately xrandr is not supported by the poprietary drivers of nVidia, otherwise it would be a splendid choice.
[19:48] <OerHeks> rubiksmomo, could well be, yes
[19:48] <rubiksmomo> OerHeks, Any idea how to solve it?
[19:49] <OerHeks> install the propper nvidiasettings, and remove the old one.
[19:49] <teward> BrAsS_mOnKeY: you didn't use the command right
[19:49] <teward> BrAsS_mOnKeY: or you have a bad ISO.
[19:49] <teward> BrAsS_mOnKeY: I just torrented the ISO from releases.ubuntu.com on my Windows 10 machine.
[19:49] <reisio> well, nvidia's proprietary driver has its own magical xrandr-like tools
[19:49] <teward> BrAsS_mOnKeY: I got matching hash sums from sha256sum.exe, certutil, and the Ubuntu site.
[19:50] <BrAsS_mOnKeY> which hash did you have?
[19:50] <bekks> BrAsS_mOnKeY: More interesting, which do you have? :)
[19:50] <teward> BrAsS_mOnKeY: http://paste.ubuntu.com/16245906
[19:50] <rubiksmomo> OerHeks, "sudo apt-get install nvidia-settings" just installs 364, even I have nvidia-361 installed. How can I install nvidia-settings version 361?
[19:51] <teward> BrAsS_mOnKeY: if your hash sums do not match these that I just provided, then your ISO is either bad or incomplete
[19:51] <BrAsS_mOnKeY> teward, but tgm4883 gets the same sum as me
[19:51] <BrAsS_mOnKeY> so the iso must be correct
[19:51] <BrAsS_mOnKeY> but the sha256sum method i'm using from the file from ubuntu is incrroect
[19:51] <tgm4883> BrAsS_mOnKeY: whoa, I don't even know what sum you have, nor have I told you what sum I have
[19:51] <BrAsS_mOnKeY> incorrect
[19:51] <teward> BrAsS_mOnKeY: show me the *Exact Commands* you ran.  THE EXACT SAME COMMANDS
[19:52] <teward> BrAsS_mOnKeY: becuase I believe you're using the wrong file to generate your hash sums.
[19:52] <tgm4883> teward: +1
[19:52] <MonkeyDust> BrAsS_mOnKeY  copy paste the command you use
[19:52] <teward> BrAsS_mOnKeY: and I know that any other hash sum is invalid, because I *just* took this exact same ISO, put it onto my Ubuntu 16.04 machine, and got the same hash sum as releases.ubuntu.com and my paste.
[19:55] <ducasse> teward, tgm4883 - he was hashing the checksum file, so you're both correct.
[19:55] <teward> BrAsS_mOnKeY: fcb989c06b1631e621e02bd060c732baa22db319dc4eba88a22cd821cca31825 is the correct hash sum for the SHA256HASHES.txt file that is stored on the releases.ubuntu.com server - which lists the VALID hash sums for the ISO files
[19:55] <tgm4883> teward: while we're waiting (which I think will be awhile), can you download the sha256 sum file and hash it, see if it gets the same hash that he posted
[19:56] <teward> BrAsS_mOnKeY: and that's a valid hash number for the SHA256SUMS file (I just ran that myself)
[19:56]  * tgm4883 smacks head
[19:56] <teward> BrAsS_mOnKeY: but you ran the commands on the WRONG file - you ran it on SHA256SUMS, NOT ubuntu-desktop-16.04-amd64.iso
[19:56] <EriC^^> this is kind of funny
[19:57] <tgm4883> I'm pretty sure he actually did post the exact command he ran earlier..
[19:57] <rubiksmomo> "sudo apt-get install nvidia-settings" installs version 364, even I have nvidia-361 installed. Is it a problem? How can I install nvidia-settings version 361?
[19:57] <teward> tgm4883: the only way he's getting these hashes is if he's running the hash sum functions on the wrong file - which is the case
[19:57] <tgm4883> teward: yes, I'm glad we both agree
[20:00] <OerHeks> rubiksmomo, how about using softwarecenter?
[20:01] <rubiksmomo> OerHeks, I get to choose between 364.15 and 346.59. No matching version available.
[20:02] <Bashing-om> rubiksmomo: Maybe try ' sudo apt purge nvidia* ; sudo rm /etc/X11/xorg.conf ; sudo apt-get update ; sudo apt-get install nvidia-364 nvidia-prime ' Maybe 364 will give a better result ?
[20:03] <rubiksmomo> Bashing-om, I believe I've tried. But I'm not sure, so I'll try again. ^_^
[20:03] <Bashing-om> rubiksmomo: ^^ I am assumming on 14.04 you have " sudo add-apt-repository ppa:graphics-drivers/ppa " installed .
[20:03] <rubiksmomo> Bashing-om, sure
[20:05] <BrAsS_mOnKeY> the ubuntu website says to download the sha256sums file to comepare them with the iso sha256sum
[20:05] <OerHeks> rubiksmomo, indeed! the ubuntu driver ppa has no candidate for nvidiasettings :-( or i missed something
[20:06] <OerHeks> go with Bashing-om, install the 364 version and you will be fine
[20:07] <rubiksmomo> When fine is "having same issue as before" :)
[20:07] <EriC^^> BrAsS_mOnKeY: yeah you did get the right sha256sum right?
[20:07] <EriC^^> !hashes
[20:07] <rubiksmomo> I do appreciate all the ideas though
[20:09] <rubiksmomo> time for a reboot and another black screen ^_^
[20:11] <BrAsS_mOnKeY> tgm4883, sorry.  It wasn't you.  It was ducasse. :)
[20:11] <BrAsS_mOnKeY> my iso sha256sum is the same as ducasse's.  So it must be correct
[20:11] <Rubiksmomo> Black screen with nvidia-364 too. Should wake up after 10-30min
[20:12] <BrAsS_mOnKeY> but when I dl'd the sha256sum from ubuntu.com/release and tried to find it's hash, it was different.
[20:12] <bekks> BrAsS_mOnKeY: Is the SHA256sum for the iso file the same as shown the the text file?
[20:12] <bekks> BrAsS_mOnKeY: Only if THAT is true, you are good to go.
[20:19] <OerHeks> Rubiksmomo, i just read this post, http://askubuntu.com/questions/289459/nvidia-drivers-installed-but-not-used/308504#308504 >> what do you see when you run "  sudo update-alternatives --config x86_64-linux-gnu_gl_conf  "
[20:19] <OerHeks> Rubiksmomo, i see with my nvidia * 0            /usr/lib/nvidia-304-updates/ld.so.conf      9701      auto mode, maybe yours is off automode.
[20:20] <OerHeks> in your case, * 0            /usr/lib/nvidia-364-updates/ld.so.conf      9701      auto mode  *i think*
[20:24] <Rubiksmomo> OerHeks: Yeah, close
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[20:26] <Rubiksmomo> Oerheks: /usr/lib/nvidia-364/ld.so.conf
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[20:26] <anzuof> well did freenode staff now learn how to code?
[20:26] <pitastrudl> is that the bot doing the banning?
[20:26] <pitastrudl> nice
[20:26] <dmto> https://www.reddit.com/r/fossworldproblems/
[20:26] <bad_ip> lulz
[20:27] <bad_ip> Why's he so mad at Freenode?
[20:27] <popey> Moving on.
[20:27] <popey> Lets get back to support
[20:27] <bad_ip> It's the rules of this channel that suck, not the network
[20:27] <med_> heh
[20:27] <Cedara> Is there a guide how to remove a ppa you installed and its content?
[20:27] <Cedara> My google fu is failing me there.
[20:27] <EriC^^> !ppa-purge | Cedara useful
[20:27] <popey> Cedara: add-apt-repository -r
[20:27] <med_> probably need to look at policy on all installed packages...
[20:28] <med_> ubottu for the win
[20:29] <Cedara> it's the colour thing they showed on omgubuntu, ravefinity-project
[20:29] <Cedara> I've discovered changing the colours and trying to minimize Corebird gives compiz a fit.
[20:30] <dario__> anyone has problems with google chrome crash in 16.04?
[20:31] <Cedara> and thanks, I shall investigate that
[20:31] <BrAsS_mOnKeY> i dont see a text file for sha256sum but i do see a md5sum.txt
[20:32] <BrAsS_mOnKeY> b@ bekks
[20:39] <BrAsS_mOnKeY> ah it is correct :)
[20:40] <bekks> BrAsS_mOnKeY: So the checksum is correct. Done.
[20:41] <BrAsS_mOnKeY> was looking at the wrong release file :)
[20:41] <BrAsS_mOnKeY> hah
[20:42] <BrAsS_mOnKeY> and trying to sha256sum the the file itself.
[20:45] <gerep> My Amazon instance stopped working without any apparent reason, I need to investigate what happened with it, where should I begin? What files/logs should I look for? Thanks
[20:45] <EriC^^> gerep: /var/log/syslog maybe
[20:45] <gerep> EriC^^: Thanks ;)
[20:45] <EriC^^> no problem buddy
[20:53] <EriC^^> lsb_release -a doesn't show the release name, shouldn't it?
[20:53] <EriC^^> it just says xenial, i think trusty used to show trusty tahr?
[20:55] <therealtbe> cat /etc/lsb-release
[20:55] <Rubiksmomo> EriC^^: http://paste.ubuntu.com/16246978 =P
[20:55] <tgm4883> EriC^^: no it didn't
[20:55] <EriC^^> tgm4883: oh ok, thanks
[20:56] <therealtbe> trusty says trusty
[20:56] <EriC^^> thank you Rubiksmomo
[20:56] <Rubiksmomo> NP
[20:57] <fatex> does Cuda work on 16.04 yet? or do I need to down grade to ubuntu 15 ?
[20:57] <lerner> !cuda
[20:57] <fatex> at https://developer.nvidia.com/cuda-downloads I see ubuntu 15, but not ubuntu 16
[20:58] <lerner> !linux
[20:58] <Bashing-om> EriC^^: " sysop@1404mini:~$ lsb_release -a >> Description:    Ubuntu 14.04.4 LTS >> Codename:       trusty " .
[20:59] <EriC^^> Bashing-om: thanks
[21:00] <anonymguy> hey guys
[21:00] <anonymguy> whats up
[21:03] <neglesaks> the sky
[21:07] <chelo> hola.. alguien que habla
[21:07] <chelo> espanhol
[21:08] <qeni> chelo: english please
[21:08] <chelo> ok
[21:11] <django_> hey all
[21:11] <django_> how does ubuntu run on an asus zenbook?
[21:11] <samthewildone> I installed 16.04 but, I'm unable to boot into windows ?
[21:12] <chelo> how to install steam to ubuntu 15.04 64 bits
[21:12] <Jordan_U> samthewildone: What is the output, if any, of "sudo os-prober"?
[21:13] <auronandace> chelo: 15.04 is no longer supported
[21:13] <Jordan_U> chelo: Ubuntu 15.04 is EOL. Upgrade to 15.10 then from there to 16.04.
[21:15] <samthewildone> Jordan_U, the output says image not found once I select windows 8.1 from grub loader.
[21:16] <samthewildone> Jordan_U, can I use boot-repair ?
[21:17] <Jordan_U> samthewildone: I don't personally trust boot-repair.
[21:18] <Jordan_U> samthewildone: Can you please post a screenshot of the exact error message you see at boot?
[21:19] <samthewildone> I'll use boot-repair, not about to spend hours trying some dated method.
[21:19] <Jordan_U> samthewildone: Some dated method?
[21:20] <glass> im looking for a command to show all running services, service --status-all just shows a few is there another command?
[21:21] <tonyt> glass rty top
[21:21] <tonyt> *try
[21:21]  * zykotick9 likes htop or "ps aux"
[21:22] <Jordan_U> samthewildone: If you're really seeing "image not found" at boot then I need more information to diagnose the problem. If you're actually seeing "error: cannot load image" then you're hitting https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/grub2/+bug/1091464 and unfortunately the only work around is to disable secure boot or select Windows using your boot firmware's menu rather than grub.
[21:22] <glass> those suggestions dont do what i need i am trying to put a tail command on conky for my services
[21:23] <ivan_on_trac> Who triggers this process? apt-get -qq -y update	 -- It locks the "apt-get".
[21:23] <glass> like service --status-all | grep +
[21:23] <Jordan_U> samthewildone: I take that back, there is a work around by adding a menuetry to grub that simply exits grub so your boot firmware continues on to Windows' boot entry.
[21:24] <zach2825> i have a question, im using ubuntu 15.10. when i shutdown my computer most the time it says process is still running and it takes for ever to shut down. is there a way to see what is running?
[21:25] <nomoney4me_> question: i have wl and cfg80211 loaded in lsmod.  i followed this tutorial and it seems that it still doesnt work, manually reloading modprobe wl doesnt do anything.  I still have to
[21:25] <nomoney4me_> i still have to suspend->resume to get the scanning function to work:  reference - http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1783272&page=2
[21:26] <nomoney4me_> anyone have any ideas?
[21:34] <django_> does ubuntu store key presses?
[21:34] <django_> i freaking lost something that i was doing on chrome incognito
[21:34] <Jordan_U> django_: No.
[21:35] <nomoney4me_> django_ i did that awhile back too :( lesson learned
[21:35] <django_> Jordan_U: what about things that were copied ie i could control paste
[21:37] <Jordan_U> django_: If it's really important, you have a long shot chance if you don't select any text at all before listening to my instructions / explanation.
[21:37] <django_> what
[21:37] <Jordan_U> django_: Only the most recent text copied to the buffer is stored. So you can try pasting, but if what gets pasted isn't what you're looking for you're out of luck for the secondary paste buffer.
[21:38] <django_> bahh
[21:38] <Jordan_U> django_: X has two paste buffers, and the primary paste buffer is filled any time you select any text, which you can then paste back by pressing your middle mouse button. If neither of the two paste buffers has what you want, you are again out of luck.
[21:39] <django_> does 16.04 come with a clipboard manager?
[21:42] <Abe_> hello I need to create a configuration script to switch between Intel integrated and Nvidia Graphics card... with "sudo prime-select intel" and sudo "prime-select nvidia" ... does somebody know what I'm talking about? have one of those Hybrid pc's and I don't want to type in my password everytime
[21:42] <Jordan_U> django_: No.
[21:46] <Abe_> apparently I need to put my config script in /etc/sudoers.d/50-prime-select ...or  /usr/local/bin/
[21:47] <lpaalp1> hello
[21:47] <jamesd_> hi
[21:48] <Abe_> nevermind
[21:48] <lpaalp1> my firefox tooltips look like this: http://imgur.com/a/CnhsN (they're black and unreadable), can anyone help me fix this?
[21:48] <jamesd_> i never do, i always break rules,  at least 50 times a day...
[21:49] <lyze> lpaalp1, that's because your current theme (gtk I think?) has that kind of color. Firefox uses those.
[21:50] <lpaalp1> lyze: hmm, so it's a color scheme problem? I tried changing themes but it didn't have any effect
[21:50] <lyze> lpaalp1, have you restarted firefox?
[21:51] <lpaalp1> lyze: it worked!
[21:51] <lpaalp1> lyze: thank you
[21:51] <lyze> No problem :)
[22:00] <samthewildone> Jordan_U, it was UEFI
[22:05] <Jordan_U> samthewildone: I already knew that you were using UEFI.
[22:05] <samthewildone> Jordan_U, did you know I'm superman ?
[22:06] <Jordan_U> samthewildone: Do you still have an Ubuntu support question?
[22:07] <samthewildone> not anymore
[22:08] <anonymguy> hwy
[22:08] <anonymguy> quit
[22:09] <nomoney4me_> anyone having problem with broadcome 4321 not scanning with bcmwl-kernel-source on 16.04?
[22:09] <nomoney4me_> broadcom*
[22:13] <OerHeks> nomoney4me_, did you install linux-headers-generic too?
[22:15] <nomoney4me_> OerHeks: not sure, I just got a clean installation and I did "apt-get install bcmwl-kernel-source"
[22:16] <callipygous> Having issues getting Ubuntu Software Centre to load.  It just fails to open at all.  Spinning wheel is all I get...
[22:16] <Guy1524> hey guys, so I have ubuntu gnome 16.04 (upgraded from 15.10) with nvidia drivers 364.19.  All my games and programs work (even vulkan ones) except for Rust, whenever I join a server, my driver becomes really slow and I can't move my mouse.  It closes rust and fixes it self when I relog using CTRL ALT F7.  For some reason it works in xfce though
[22:16] <Guy1524> any ideas?
[22:16] <Guy1524> I don't like xfce
[22:17] <fredsua> good day.  I'm running Ubuntu 16.04 and cant figure out how to install printer Brother MFC-9460cdn over the network.
[22:18] <fredsua> I've already installed the .deb drivers on the Brother website just like i had done in  14.04 LTS
[22:18] <fredsua> and that did no work
[22:19] <fredsua> Am I missing some file?  Ubuntu 16.04 LTS 64-bit
[22:23] <fredsua> I'm running Ubuntu 16.04 and cant figure out how to install printer Brother MFC-9460cdn over the network.  I've already installed the .deb drivers on the Brother website just like i had done in  14.04 and that did no work.  Am I missing some file?  Ubuntu 16.04 LTS 64-bit
[22:23] <nacc> !patience | fredsua
[22:23] <callipygous> Having issues getting Ubuntu Software Centre to load.  It just fails to open at all.  Spinning wheel is all I get...
[22:23] <fredsua> sorry, i'm new here.
[22:24] <soSLow> Hi! My ubuntu 14.04 is being slow in general, especially on boot up.
[22:24] <soSLow> opening terminator takes 2 seconds
[22:25] <_zlate_> hi i am trying to use extglob for logrotate
[22:25] <_zlate_> however that doesnt seem to work
[22:25] <soSLow> http://pastebin.com/P4JZeuYG
[22:26] <callipygous> hmm, okay
[22:26] <soSLow> I installed it alongside windows. I had 90 GB free unallocated space. I was never asked how much space to allocate
[22:26] <callipygous> so software center loads ffrom the terminal using the comand $ software-center
[22:26] <callipygous> but won't launch from Unity's taskbar
[22:26] <callipygous> What would cause that?
[22:26] <_zlate_> Anyone has any idea how to enable extglob for logrotate
[22:27] <kisb> callipygous, check the dot desktop
[22:27] <callipygous> kisb: dot desktop?
[22:27] <fredsua> how do i reply to a question?
[22:27] <kisb> there is the launcher command that starts the application
[22:27] <soSLow> it takes me 5 seconds to load any webpage in firefox
[22:28] <MonkeyDust> kisb  here in irc?
[22:28] <MonkeyDust> fredsua  ^^^
[22:28] <squinty> fredsua, type the person's nick to whom you are replying to and then your question
[22:28] <callipygous> kisb: not sure how to access the launcher?
[22:28] <squinty> !tab | fred
[22:29] <fredsua> callipygous: how about doing a reinstall of ubuntu?
[22:30] <kisb> its /usr/share/applications/gnome-software-something.desktop
[22:30] <callipygous> fredsua: could do, but it's a fresh install
[22:30] <soSLow> can anyone help me identify why ubuntu is so slow>
[22:31] <soSLow> please :)
[22:31] <fredsua> callipygous: I would recommend downloading the file again and doing a fresh install.
[22:31] <callipygous> okay
[22:31] <callipygous> will try that
[22:31] <kisb> i would suggest just give up on software center
[22:32] <Guy1524> soSLow: try xubuntu, unity is a disaster
[22:32] <callipygous> well, it's not for me, I don't know how good syaptic is for n00bs
[22:32] <kisb> use synaptic
[22:32] <fredsua> callipygous, maybe the file you downloaded originally was missing a file
[22:32] <squinty> the new software center in 16.04 is buggy
[22:32] <soSLow> Guy1524: have you seen the specs i've pasted?
[22:32] <Guy1524> no
[22:32] <callipygous> I downloaded an iso, and checked the md5
[22:32] <callipygous> and it passed
[22:32] <soSLow> http://pastebin.com/P4JZeuYG
[22:32] <callipygous> so, I'll just try a reinstall, thanks.
[22:33] <Guy1524> beats me
[22:33] <soSLow> i'm suspecting HDD
[22:33] <soSLow> since it's booting so slow
[22:33] <kisb> callipygous, synaptic is easy
[22:33] <squinty> soSLow,  if you are on 16.04 try  systemd-analyze blame  in a terminal
[22:33] <fredsua> callipygous:  download it from the torrent site
[22:33] <soSLow> squinty: i'm on 14.04
[22:34] <squinty> fredsua, might want to try using the CUPS setup.....   enter the following in your web browser  https://localhost:631/  >  CUPS for Administrators > Adding Printers and Classes
[22:35] <fredsua> squinty:  thank you I've been looking for this site for a while now.  I'll give it a shot.
[22:35] <soSLow> do i need to have a partition for swap?
[22:36] <soSLow> i guess not
[22:37] <Bashing-om> soSLow: How much ram is installed, and do you intend to be able to hiberbate ?
[22:38] <fredsua> squinty, the site does not find the network printer either.  the printer is connected to the router and is on.
[22:40] <soSLow> Bashing-om: 8 GB RAM
[22:40] <squinty> fredsua,  system settings -> Add -> network printer   maybe try that
[22:41] <soSLow> Bashing-om: no
[22:41] <Codfection> how to hibernate instead of sleep in ubuntu?
[22:41] <Guest53756> hi
[22:41] <reisio> Codfection: why do you ask?
[22:41] <reisio> Guest53756: hi; /nick anythingplz
[22:41] <Guest53756> hello
[22:41] <Bashing-om> soSLow: Then you can get by fine with no swap . No heavy duty number crunching .
[22:43] <soSLow> Bashing-om: Promise
[22:43] <Codfection> I cant find hibernate option on ubuntu (using laptop ofc)
[22:43] <fredsua> squinty, I have, when i select "Find Network Printer" it goes into search for a long time and then it either locks up or gives me an error.
[22:44] <fredsua> squinty, doing it now and it locked up.
[22:44] <squinty> fredsua, not really up on printers   hopefully someone else can chime in
[22:44] <Codfection> Guys how to get hibernate option instead of suspend? IN UBUNTU 16.04
[22:45] <fredsua> squinty, have you had any problems installing a network printer?
[22:45] <wad> Installing a printer, but it's a model (HP Laserjet 4050tn) that doesn't show up in the list. Should I download HPLIP from hp?
[22:45] <soSLow> Bashing-om: cmake and docker will be used
[22:46] <fredsua> squinty, my printer search is still locked.  I think I maybe missing a file or lib.
[22:49] <a100_le6> hi
[22:50] <a100_le6> hi
[22:51] <Codfection> Guys how to get hibernate option instead of suspend? IN UBUNTU 16.04
[22:51] <Bashing-om> soSLow: http://paste.ubuntu.com/16248279/ ; 4 Gigs of ram, and I am not touching swap with quite a bit going on .
[22:52] <a100_le6> I don't know. I use 12.04
[22:52] <Codfection> Guys how to get hibernate option instead of suspend? IN UBUNTU
[22:52] <virtuosoj> :O get with the times man
[22:53] <a100_le6> 12.04--Cannot change beep sound on G3 iBook Clamshell
[22:53] <virtuosoj> "sudo pm-hibernate"
[22:54] <virtuosoj> @Codfection, https://help.ubuntu.com/16.04/ubuntu-help/power-hibernate.html
[22:54] <Codfection> even for hibernate I have to type command
[22:55] <virtuosoj> Codfection, apparently ubuntu tests your hardware to see if hibernate is supported. If not, they don't show the command
[22:55] <nomoney4me_> anyone know what "partially" means on this page? https://wireless.wiki.kernel.org/en/users/Drivers/b43#known_problems_limitations
[22:57] <lyze> nomoney4me_, since you are already in a irc channel … I'd suggest giving the irc channel of those guys a try? #bcm-users
[22:57] <nomoney4me_> well I did ask there, was just wondering if someone else who has dealt with them know it off of the top of their head.
[22:58] <lyze> Ah alright c:
[22:58] <nomoney4me_> but thanks for the type lyze
[22:58] <logicalor> If I have added a bunch of PPAs and I upgrade to 16.04, I'm going to face issues aren't I
[22:59] <Bashing-om> logicalor: One word, yes . disable PAAs, and see what is supported on the other side .
[22:59] <squinty> logicalor, disable them first
[22:59] <Codfection> spotify FOR UBUNTU>
[22:59] <Codfection> ?
[22:59] <logicalor> thx - I'll do that.  might wait until the weekend though :)
[23:00] <lyze> Codfection, http://www.webupd8.org/2014/05/spotify-for-linux-gets-refreshed-user.html
[23:00] <Bashing-om> logicalor: Same logic applies to any proprietary drivers that you have in use .
[23:00] <reisio> spotify works fine from a browser
[23:00] <Codfection> ty lyze
[23:01] <logicalor> ah yes - good point.  I'm running the proprietary nvidia driver.
[23:01] <Codfection> hi reisio
[23:01] <Codfection> I prefer an app
[23:02] <Bashing-om> logicalor: Graphics driver will break in the upgrade . so revert to open source prior .
[23:02] <Rhorse> There is no spotify web site afaik....
[23:02] <logicalor> maybe backing up my data and running a clean install may be the way to go.  I've done a fair bit of chopping and changing (originally kubuntu, but swapped to gnome3).
[23:03] <Rhorse> You _need_ the app for spotify - no web site like pandora
[23:03] <reisio> Codfection: you mean you prefer an additional app
[23:03] <reisio> Rhorse: no, it does have a website
[23:03] <logicalor> yeah play.spotify.com does the trick
[23:03] <Rhorse> Does it?
[23:03] <lyze> ppa's will get disabled automatically when you upgrade … at least that's what it did for me: http://i.imgur.com/K5aO7pE.png
[23:03] <logicalor> but it can be choppy
[23:03] <reisio> yup
[23:03] <reisio> and the website doesn't require gconf the way the app does :D
[23:03] <logicalor> app seems to be smoother
[23:03]  * reisio stabs gconf
[23:03] <Rhorse> Oh, OK, didn't know about that one
[23:05] <kus> sorry if you were trying to talk to me and I didn't see it ... I was not on my computer
[23:06] <reisio> not on your computer?...
[23:06] <reisio> ...where on earth were you, where else is there...
[23:12] <callipygous> Okay, reinstalled Ubuntu
[23:12] <callipygous> still having issues with software center
[23:12] <callipygous> it's beach balling
[23:12] <reisio> beach balling?
[23:13] <callipygous> yeah...I dunno that's what us mac users call it
[23:13] <callipygous> when the waiting for thing keeps going
[23:13] <reisio> oh, hahah
[23:13] <callipygous> I click "Updates" and it just keeps loading and loading
[23:13] <reisio> "doesn't load" is what that's called
[23:13] <reisio> won't finish loading, etc.
[23:14] <callipygous> yup
[23:14] <callipygous> What should I do?
[23:14] <callipygous> I mean, I could install synaptic, but how good is synaptic for n00bs?
[23:15] <Rhorse> Does apt-get work, callipygous?
[23:15] <callipygous> yeah, apt-get does work
[23:16] <fredsua> callipygous, type  sudo apt-get update
[23:16] <fredsua> callipygous, then type sudo apt-get upgrade
[23:17] <Rhorse> fredsua: callipygous maybe once apt-get gets through with updating system, software center will catch up...
[23:17] <callipygous> okay, worth a shot
[23:18] <fredsua> callipygous, hopefully that will work.
[23:18] <Rhorse> callipygous: is this 16.04?
[23:18] <callipygous> Why is Dofus no longer in Software Center
[23:18] <callipygous> ?
[23:18] <callipygous> Nor can I find Skype
[23:18] <callipygous> yes, 16.04
[23:19] <Rhorse> 32 or 64 bit?
[23:19] <callipygous> 64
[23:19] <fredsua> callipygous, duno, just get it from the website
[23:20] <callipygous> hmm Skype is 12.04 multiarch
[23:20] <callipygous> no 16.04 version, I guess it's worth a shot, tho
[23:20] <reisio> http://talky.io/ is all arch
[23:21] <fredsua> well, i was able to install the network printer using https://localhost:631/admin
[23:21] <nacc> callipygous: iirc, skype is in partner
[23:21] <bazhang> !info skype partner
[23:21] <fredsua> the problem was that my daughter had disconnected the USB cable, go figure....
[23:21] <callipygous> is in partner?
[23:22] <nacc> callipygous: you have to enable the partner repo
[23:22] <callipygous> oh ok :)
[23:22] <nacc> callipygous: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Skype ignore the multiarch bit, i think, but you do need partner enabled to see it
[23:22] <fredsua> however, when I print a test page it says that Printer Brother..... may not be connected.
[23:22] <danmulvey> hey everyone! so im trying to update flash for firefox in ubuntu 15.04 and having problems. i downloaded the update and installed it through apt, it says its installed in software center, but firefox still says i have the outdated/vulnerable version. any thoughts?
[23:23] <nacc> danmulvey: 15.04 is eol
[23:23] <reisio> danmulvey: firefox is dumb in that way
[23:23] <Rhorse> danmulvey: I always dl flash from adobe and put the thing in my .mozilla directory.
[23:23] <reisio> danmulvey: try browser-plugin-freshplayer-pepperflash
[23:23] <danmulvey> nacc: can i upgrade or do i need to do a fresh install to get up to date? also, would i do it stepwise or can i go straight from 15.04 to the current version
[23:23] <reisio> ^silly
[23:24] <danmulvey> reisio: thanks ill try that and see what happens
[23:24] <danmulvey> thanks Rhorse also
[23:24] <nacc> !eolupgrade | danmulvey
[23:24] <Rhorse> I believe the dir is .mozilla/plugin or something.... I use Chrome now wihich has all that built in.
[23:24] <nacc> danmulvey: you'll need to go -> 15.10 -> 16.04 (if you want)
[23:25] <callipygous> okay, getting more beach balling with Software Center
[23:25] <reisio> you really don't want to install it manually
[23:25] <danmulvey> nacc: alright cool, thanks. didn't realize i was so far behind!
[23:25] <fredsua> callipygous, what are you trying to install?
[23:26] <danmulvey> reisio: it also says my firefox is out of date when i go to mozillas page, but im assuming thats because im using the ubuntu packaged version right? or can i download/install the latest firefox from the mozilla site without issue (or is there a good reason for/against that?)?
[23:27] <reisio> it's because the people in charge of Firefox's GUI (and all browser's GUIs for that matter), are clowns
[23:27] <reisio> wouldn't worry about it unless it's happening on other sites / and actually keeping you from doing something
[23:27] <danmulvey> lol yeah that doesnt surprise me
[23:28] <danmulvey> alright cool, yeah the only time i noticed it was when i got the notification that i was running a potentially vulnerable flash plugin & then went to their page that checks for updates etc
[23:29] <danmulvey> i wonder if the problem with the flash update is that i just installed the new version of flash but didnt install some browser specific helper plugin or something to hook the two together?
[23:29] <danmulvey> just trying to understand what the disconnect is really
[23:31] <Annoyed> Hallo.. Anyone know why they patched samba again today? it was finally working and it's back to not working
[23:31] <backbox> hi
[23:33] <backbox> hi drone
[23:36] <callipygous> I'm not trying to install anything
[23:36] <callipygous> Software center is just beach balling, and won't let me do anything
[23:38] <YankDownUnder> callipygous, Have you tried anything else - like Synaptic or even doing an update from the terminal?
[23:39] <callipygous> YankDownUnder, yeah, I can do update from the Terminal, and have done
[23:39] <callipygous> YankDownUnder, apt-get seems to work perfectly fine
[23:40] <callipygous> Haven't tried Synaptic, tho, is it any good for newbs?
[23:40] <fredsua> callipygous, if you can't exit software center, log out and come back in, then open Terminal and type:  sudo apt-get update    followed by sudo apt-get upgrade
[23:40] <callipygous> done that, fredusa
[23:40] <callipygous> no luck
[23:40] <fredsua> callipygous, so the software center starts on its own?
[23:41] <callipygous> well, I haven't quit it yet to see if it starts again
[23:41] <danmulvey> anyone have a preference as far as password managers go?
[23:41] <callipygous> I'm afraid it won't, like before
[23:41] <reisio> danmulvey: make algorithmic passwords and you can just store them in your head
[23:41] <fredsua> quit or restart to end Software Center.
[23:42] <fredsua> callipygous, when you return, open the Software Center and install Gdebi.
[23:42] <danmulvey> reisio: ive been doing something along those lines for a while now, been kinda interested in these recently though and wondering what the "standard" is around here
[23:42] <danmulvey> mainly for my mom really
[23:42] <callipygous> Gdebi?
[23:42] <Rhorse> danmulvey: I use the password.google.com service with Chrome.
[23:43] <fredsua> callipygous, then make Gdebi your default installer of .deb files.
[23:43] <reisio> danmulvey: there's no standard; every variable you add makes it (way) stronger
[23:43] <fredsua> callipygous, that's what i've done and it works like a charm
[23:43] <callipygous> well, I restarted Software Center
[23:44] <callipygous> but I cannot do anything with it
[23:44] <reisio> danmulvey: ordinary human can handle two or three variations easily
[23:44] <callipygous> it wont' let me install anything
[23:44] <callipygous> If I click search, it just beach balls
[23:44] <Rhorse> callipygous: try reinstalling it..?
[23:44] <callipygous> I tried that
[23:44] <callipygous> didn't work
[23:45] <danmulvey> reisio: oh i meant the "standard" as far as which app people are using in ubuntu (lastpass, keepassx, etc etc)
[23:45] <Rhorse> callipygous: try making a new user and logging in under that user.
[23:45] <callipygous> Rhorse, I don't thikn that will work.  I just did a fresh install because of the issue
[23:45] <danmulvey> reisio: im familiar with using algorithms in my head to come up with passphrases, ive got a couple routines i rely on
[23:45] <callipygous> but it still happens with a fresh install
[23:45] <danmulvey> Rhorse: ill check that out, for some reason ive never actually used it
[23:46]  * reisio shrugs
[23:46] <Rhorse> callipygous: have you checked the logs to see if anything appears?
[23:46] <callipygous> which logs?
[23:47] <Rhorse> check in /var/logs for anything related? Not sure if the Software Center uses logging....
[23:49] <callipygous> Yeah, can't see anything related in /var/log
[23:52] <ichat> can anyone tell me what im to expect when i want to use zram on a 1,3ghz quadcore amd cpu with only 4gb ram,  is zram system-heavy,  does it even play nice with ubuntu.
[23:52] <Rhorse> I wonder if running it from the cli with --debug option will get you some useful output, callipygous...?
[23:53] <callipygous> doesn't work
[23:53] <Rhorse> ??
[23:53] <callipygous> Unknown option --debus
[23:53] <callipygous> Unknown option --debug
[23:55] <nacc> ichat: i think the ubuntu package might be zram-config
[23:56] <Rhorse> callipygous: are you running it as root?
[23:56] <callipygous> Is this safe to try:  http://etechedu.blogspot.com.au/2011/11/solution-to-ubuntu-software-center-not.html
[23:56] <callipygous> no, I dont' have root account enabled
[23:56] <callipygous> I just enter password when it asks
[23:56] <ichat> nacc, ty. ill give it a shot.
[23:57] <nacc> ichat: but i think zram might be targetted at very low-memory systms
[23:57] <Rhorse> callipygous: what options does it show in man page or with --help switch?
[23:57] <nacc> ichat: honestly not sure, can i ask what is prompting you to investigate it?
[23:57] <callipygous> shows --verbose
[23:57] <callipygous> tried --verbose but nothing odd appears
[23:58] <Rhorse> Could it just need a long time to sync? Maybe leave it for a couple of hours?
[23:59] <callipygous> nope, I don't think so.  It definitely has issues
[23:59] <OerHeks> callipygous, this page is a better help with apt/softwarecenter issues >> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PackageManagerTroubleshootingProcedure