[00:02] mmmmmm [00:03] sgclark: try installing plasma-desktop now [00:03] k [00:03] I think I need to disable mergers [00:03] I seem to have broken plasma-discover [00:03] its just triggering them at midnight UTC [00:04] I am stuck on mergers until yofel sets up a user with push rights in jenkins [00:04] sgclark: could not read Username for 'https://git.launchpad.net': No such device or address (Git::GitExecuteError) [00:05] clivejo: yes I am very aware of the error [00:05] because we don't have an LP user with commit push rights [00:05] ah [00:05] I am done fighting with it for now [00:06] cause only council has the rights and password for kubuntu-ci-bot [00:06] is kubunbu-ci not a user? [00:06] * sgclark turn off mergers [00:06] clivejo: kubuntu-ci-bot it but I do not have the password [00:06] KC does [00:07] and they are ignoring my pleas for help [00:07] uploads to the PPA, so it must have the key installed on KCI? [00:08] clive I fought with it for 2 days straight and could not get it to work. Auth failure every time. [00:09] I need a break. and help from folks that hold magical passwords. I am done fighting in the dark lacking tools [00:10] hmm no pasma upgrades available [00:10] plasma [00:11] clivejo: no plasma to try [00:11] have you plasma PPA enabled? [00:11] yes [00:11] oh [00:12] duh [00:12] apt update? [00:12] I don't know what those other updates were [00:12] I am on xenial [00:12] ... [00:12] I would not get these [00:12] nope! [00:12] must have been older stuff [00:12] just yakkety [00:12] yeha [00:12] sorry [00:12] is it all green? [00:13] although when its tested, should be ready to backport [00:13] Im not quite happy with it yet [00:13] I made discover go red [00:13] if you want testers toss it in landing and we can fcall for testers [00:13] doh! [00:13] np [00:13] it was complaining about not finding a dep [00:13] I am far from ready with apps, all seem to be broken installs [00:14] so I added it and now its not building a pile of files [00:14] that makes NO sense [00:14] eek [00:14] Ill just do a git revert me thinks [00:18] * clivejo should I add the staging PPA? [00:19] * clivejo opens Muon very slowly [00:20] sgclark: i think new Plasma is more important for users than Apps :) so it would be nice to have it backported when it will be possible [00:20] * clivejo looks for his trout [00:21] soee_: have you yakkety yet? [00:21] clivejo: no :) [00:22] why not? [00:23] clivejo: because there is nothing fancy yet, not merges from debian etc. [00:24] i think i will jump with first alpha [00:24] oh dear, what have I done! [00:25] -.- [00:25] if you dont see me ever again, youll know why [00:26] plasma went boom [00:26] well that is interesting no? [00:26] soee_: I dont know yet [00:26] its installing now [00:26] :D [00:27] I think Im more stupid than brave! [00:28] 22% [00:28] yy upgrade ? [00:28] or Plasma 5.6 ? [00:28] Im on YY [00:28] Plasma 5.6.3 [00:28] clivejo: I am curious, have you used that backport script? [00:28] 40% [00:29] i would say lucky you :) [00:29] yes, back in xenial I think [00:29] soee_: frameworks are backported, I expect plasma won't take long [00:29] but probably needs mod to work with LP move [00:29] clivejo: ok. maybe try it with plasma when ready [00:29] oh [00:30] dang [00:30] right nm [00:30] eakk [00:30] 100% [00:30] I will let yofel keep the python stuff. I have my hands full with ci [00:31] sgclark: i have Frameworsk installed since you strted them on Xenial [00:32] cool [00:32] clivejo is working on plasma, so butter him up for the backports lol [00:32] is frameworks working ok in xenial? [00:32] * sgclark drowns in apps [00:33] clivejo: shouold be. let me check [00:33] sgclark: shouldn't we remove Wily from those Staging ppas ? [00:33] soee_: yeah and from CI. on my Gigantic TODO list [00:33] * sgclark drowns some more and checks xenial backports [00:34] klear in the dev-tools should help with that [00:34] the Frameworks have problem only with oxygen5-icon-theme but i think yofel might fix it? [00:35] : error processing archive /var/cache/apt/archives/libkf5runner-dev_5.21.0-0ubuntu1~ubuntu16.10~ppa1_amd64.deb (--unpack): [00:35] trying to overwrite '/usr/share/kdevappwizard/templates/runner.tar.bz2', which is also in package kapptemplate 4:15.12.3-0ubuntu1 [00:36] I think thats a deal breaker [00:36] anyways, Ill try rebooting. If Im not back in five mins, its broken my system! [00:38] * soee_ goes to bed .. nn [00:42] holy moley [00:42] it works! [00:42] KDE Plasma Version 5.6.3 [00:42] Kubuntu 16.10 [00:42] nice [00:42] * clivejo does happy dance [00:43] sgclark: did you get my krunner message? [00:43] seems like they are busting up that kapptemplate into main packages [00:43] ^^ [00:43] I would add a breaks/replaces on kapptemplate [00:44] Yay! [00:44] * mamarley looks forward to a Xenial backport. :) [00:44] * sgclark does too [00:45] Speaking of Xenial, I accidentally updated one of my systems from the frameworks staging PPA. It seems to work fine, FWIW. [00:46] I just update extra-cmake-modules in xenial [00:54] strange disconnection to my bouncer [00:54] woah, you folks have been working HARD! [00:54] <3 and kisses and {{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{hugs}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}} [00:55] I blame Scarlett! [00:55] * valorie heads off to visit the parental unit [00:55] cracking the whip [00:55] it's odd to see the occasional green [00:55] what's magic there? [00:55] valorie: are you on YY? [00:55] nope [00:56] Yeah, great job! [00:56] mamarley !!! [00:56] once I buy my son's "old" laptop so i have a backup again [00:56] I'll jump on this one [00:56] did you install YY? [00:56] clivejo: On a VM. [00:56] can you add plasma staging and install 5.6.3? [00:57] clivejo: Sure. [00:58] I have to go to bed, but can you look into that krunner package install problem and give feedback to sgclark? [00:58] Sure. [00:58] pretty pls, with sugar on top :) [01:02] night night all [01:08] valorie: no magic. most of the fails are dependency issues, it will take some time for the CI to "catch up" and plus clivejo and I fixing packages like mad. [01:08] * sgclark cracks the whip [01:09] uploaded a new oxygen-icons hopefully fixes the issue [01:09] I tried to upgrade Yakkety with the plasma-staging and frameworks-staging PPAs but I can't install plasma-workspace because it depends on kactivities which can't be installed because it depends on qml-module-org-kde-activities which can't be installed because it depends on libkf5activities ~ppa1 and ~ppa2 is installed. [01:10] hmm [01:11] ok I can fix that [01:11] ty [01:11] No problem. Thank you for all your work! === mamarley is now known as Guest52160 === mamarley_ is now known as mamarley === N3X15_ is now known as N3X15 === N3X15_ is now known as N3X15 === N3X15_ is now known as N3X15 [04:30] nice to see the green! [07:33] good morninr [07:34] sgclark: oxygen5-icon-theme installed fine on Xenial, thank you for this fix === N3X15_ is now known as N3X15 [08:43] clivejo: will you backport 5.6.3 ? [08:46] <@Clifford>: Gimme a chance to get it tested in Yakkety [08:49] <@Clifford>: Yofel: ping [08:57] mamarley: any feedback? [09:14] clivejo: hm? [09:14] <@Sick_Rimmit>: Moring Soee [09:14] <@Sick_Rimmit>: o/ [09:16] * yofel tries to generate l10n [09:17] hiho Sick_Rimmit> [09:18] uh reading the #plasma it seems that the desktop long loading time will be fixed in 5.6.4 by reverting one commit [09:19] yay, wgrant_ fixed launchpad [09:20] actually [09:20] wgrant: thanks a lot! [09:22] soee_: which one? [09:22] ah, I see [09:23] sounds like we want to SRU that [09:23] yofel: I tried to build l10n-sv and engb for xenial from yakkety source locally, and it went well. Not quite sure what sgclark ment by this comment https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kde-l10n-ru/+bug/1576455/comments/6 [09:23] Launchpad bug 1576455 in kde-l10n-ru (Ubuntu Xenial) "SRu kde-l10n-* translation packages" [Undecided,Confirmed] [09:24] Me neither, that's why I want to try it [09:24] Nice :) [09:24] bah, we need to move all that l10n stuff to gid [09:24] *git [09:24] yofel: hi [09:24] moin [09:25] so I want to fix the VCS fields in plasma and also bump the standards [09:25] VCS ===> LP Git [09:26] is this something you want to script and do all at once? [09:26] btw. I saw that skanlite was tagged 2.0.0 as the first kf5 version of it. Not quite sure how to package it though... I really need to learn this sh*t :/ [09:26] clivejo: yes, and I was kind of stuck on LP returning invalid data for that [09:26] which works now [09:27] Odur: well, you're at the perfect place then ;) [09:27] * yofel mumbles something about people not using correct l10n branches [09:27] well, she was overworked [09:28] is xenial stuck on standards-version 3.9.7 (current is 3.9.8 in yakkety)? [09:28] yofel: Yeah, I know. I just have to finish this last semester in the university. Medical school is hard :) [09:29] clivejo: we really don't care about that, but feel free to fix if no changes are required [09:29] yofel: btw. Scarlett has fixed this last package in Frameworks (the oxygen icons) :) [09:29] well I thought kill several birds with the one stone [09:29] <@Sick_Rimmit>: Odur [09:29] ah good, I never uploaded that [09:29] <@Sick_Rimmit>: I plan to run a Kubuntu Dojo next week, introducing folks to packaging [09:30] Ill have to rebuild all the packages with the new control file after you are done [09:30] clivejo: sure, but that's still the compliance version. You *did* read the the 3.9.8 changelog, yes? [09:30] Sick_Rimmit: Ok, I'll see if I have the time [09:31] <@Sick_Rimmit>: OK, there should some info on kubuntu.org early next week [09:31] <@Sick_Rimmit>: I'll update here [09:31] <@Sick_Rimmit>: too [09:31] I'll keep my eyes out for it [09:31] I didnt, but I thought the idea of standards file was so that lintian reports stuff we are doing wrong and gives us a chance to "comply" [09:31] or die [09:32] yofel: oh the bug was in Frameworks not Plasma :/ So it will be fixed in Frameworks 5.22 it seems [09:32] soee: well, I care whether it's fixed in 5.18, so as long as the review says "Ship it", I'm fine [09:32] Odur: follow Kubuntu on twitter :) [09:33] soee: No twitter here :P [09:33] :O [09:34] (And no Facebook either. Just G+, and I follow Kubuntu there) [09:34] * yofel wrote a twitter post for the twitter birthday [09:34] sounded appropriate [09:34] :) [09:34] hm, l10n is indeed busted, wft [09:39] yofel: can I upload stuff to YY? [09:39] archive you mean? [09:39] why Konversation ignores webbrowser set as default ? [09:39] yea [09:39] no, requires ~ubuntu-dev [09:40] ah thought so [09:41] yofel: np, thanks for reporting. [09:46] yofel: For https://launchpad.net/~kubuntu-ppa/+archive/ubuntu/staging-plasma/+build/9685568/+files/buildlog_ubuntu-yakkety-amd64.plasma-sdk_4%3A5.6.3-0ubuntu1~ubuntu16.10~ppa1_BUILDING.txt.gz , should I add kdevplatform-dev as a build dep? [09:48] You could if we had kdevplatform >= 4.90.90 [09:48] or do we? [09:49] we have 1.7.3 [09:50] set(KDEVPLATFORM_LIB_VERSION 8.0.0) [09:51] set(KDEV_PLUGIN_VERSION 17) [09:51] set(KDEVPLATFORM_VERSION_MAJOR 1) [09:51] set(KDEVPLATFORM_VERSION_MINOR 7) [09:51] set(KDEVPLATFORM_VERSION_PATCH 3) [09:52] * clivejo shrugs, that makes NO sense [09:53] why not, those are 3 different things [09:53] 4.90.90 [09:53] is that a version 5 beta or something? [09:54] that's the kf5 version. you need kf5 kdevplatform for kf5 dev tools [09:54] ok, so we dont have that [09:54] * clivejo ignores it [09:54] * yofel fixed l10n [09:55] what was the problem? [09:55] yofel: Nice job! [09:56] she accidentally edited the package name variable in the changelog, so the substitution was failing [09:57] * yofel goes back to work [09:58] yofel: so Ill hold off until you do that batch VCS update? [09:58] oh right, I wanted to do that [09:59] well Im currently running Yakkety with Plasma 5.6.3 so it seems to work :) [09:59] any new packages? [09:59] but I wanted to get the packaging sorted before trying to backport it [10:00] yeah I added them as I went [10:00] plasma-intrgration is the only one I remember [10:00] * clivejo wonders did he push that to KA [10:01] does it need new frameworks? [10:01] yes [10:01] ok, then that has to go in first [10:01] I copied them over from the staging PPA [10:01] as I needed them [10:01] maybe lets do another FW rebuild before uploading, so we don't end up in another build failure mess like a month ago.. [10:02] : error processing archive /var/cache/apt/archives/libkf5runner-dev_5.21.0-0ubuntu1~ubuntu16.10~ppa1_amd64.deb (--unpack): [10:02] trying to overwrite '/usr/share/kdevappwizard/templates/runner.tar.bz2', which is also in package kapptemplate 4:15.12.3-0ubuntu1 [10:02] I've already created packages of kdevelop5, kdevplatform etc. in my ppa [10:03] thats the only error I got on installing plasma on yakkety [10:03] well fix it ^^ [10:03] Im not allowed! [10:03] huh? [10:03] frameworks are Scarletts [10:03] it's a bit too early to push'em into release [10:03] ... [10:04] blaze: why? [10:04] because some stuff isn't working [10:04] this is the development release, live with it... [10:05] seriously, all this dev-should-always-be-stable crap is what caused all the last-minute mess in xenial [10:07] I dont understand that, surely dev version is to iron out the bugs [10:07] yofel: Why ubuntu1.1 on l10n? Yakkety is on ubuntu2. Just curious how it works :) [10:07] Odur: version has to be lower than 2, and .1 is the usual thing to do for SRUs [10:08] clivejo: well yes, but then someone in ubuntu said that people should be able to test dev with only minor hiccups and frowned upon devs that uploaded WIP stuff to dev [10:08] * clivejo mutters under his breath [10:09] and now the release team is even more angry at people breaking stuff post-beta [10:09] hence the mail that people should please upload stuff to release when they're ~done [10:09] and not do private tests for months [10:11] clivejo: I posted a message about something not installing. sgclark said she would fix it, but I haven't tested yet. I am about to do that. [10:11] what was the package [10:12] did you get the krunner conflict? [10:12] No, I can't remember what it was anymore. [10:12] dependency issue or...? [10:14] Yeah, it was dependencies. I am testing again, just a sec… [10:15] clivejo: if you've got nothing to do, fancy patching up an SRU for the plasma splash timeout? [10:17] [21:09:38] [2016/05/05] I tried to upgrade Yakkety with the plasma-staging and frameworks-staging PPAs but I can't install plasma-workspace because it depends on kactivities which can't be installed because it depends on qml-module-org-kde-activities which can't be installed because it depends on libkf5activities ~ppa1 and ~ppa2 is installed. [10:17] Still happening. :( [10:18] mamarley: what PPA's did you install? [10:18] clivejo: Staging for both plasma and frameworks. [10:19] ah [10:19] I only used plasma [10:19] yofel: Where will the l10n packages end up after building? [10:20] xenial-proposed [10:20] thx [10:20] which will probably take a couple days [10:20] no worries [10:20] yofel: plasma splash timeout? [10:21] https://git.reviewboard.kde.org/r/127848/ [10:21] or at least a 5.5 test package so we can see if it helps [10:22] er, 5.18 [10:24] so I grab plasma-frameworks 5.18 and apply that patch? [10:24] is there a LP bug? [10:27] dunno [10:27] soee: ^ ? [10:28] yofel: for SRU what branch I use? [10:28] xenial_archive? [10:28] yes [10:29] bug for what ? [10:29] soee: the splash timeout thing [10:29] well i think it is related to my report somehow https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=360777 [10:29] KDE bug 360777 in General "Due to faulty configuration desktop loading time is ~20 seconds longer" [Normal,Needsinfo: waitingforinfo] [10:30] soee: it on LP? [10:30] i doubt [10:30] * clivejo shakes head [10:35] yofel: should he make one? [10:35] for me to close in the SRU? [10:35] so the powers that be know its a fix for something [10:35] well, make a test package first. If it works we can create a bug and add it to the changelog [10:41] yofel: that patch seems to be applied in 5.18 [10:42] oh, then it's unrelated I guess.. [10:42] I should probably look at getting Quassel 0.12.4 SRUed since it fixes some pesky database problems, a bug causing users to receive broadcasted PM SPAM, and a core crash bug. [10:43] mamarley++ [10:43] yofel: plasma-framework 5.18 SC - http://paste.ubuntu.com/16255472/ [10:43] clivejo: what patch? [10:43] Oh wait, 0.12.4 isn't even in Yakkety yet. Who is the maintainer these days? [10:44] uh, us probably [10:45] or not [10:45] MOTU I guess [10:45] yofel: What's the process for getting it updated then? [10:46] File a bug, attach a package/debdiff and subscribe ~ubuntu-sponsors to get it uploaded [10:46] This would be more than a new debdiff though, this would be a whole new orig.tar.gz. [10:47] Pointing to a ppa is accepted too I believe [10:47] #ubuntu-motu might give you more accurate information [10:47] Ah, OK. [10:50] Would it perhaps be possible for me to become the Quassel maintainer? I have been doing the PPA for a while now and I am somewhat involved with Quassel development, so… [10:50] sure, you can apply to the DMB for package-specific upload permissions [10:51] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DeveloperMembershipBoard/ApplicationProcess [10:52] That looks do-able, though I should probably get the 0.12.4 upload done first. I'm not really sure of anyone who would endorse me though. [11:00] Hmm, I seem to have run out of time for this morning. I will work on this more over the weekend. [11:02] it is almost weekend ;) [11:03] there is also requestsync which avoids duplication of work [11:06] which would first require a package review [11:06] as our quassel package does not share a history with debian [11:07] * soee reboot [11:07] l10n uploaded [11:08] someone needs to write a 'generate-packages-from-ref.sh' [11:08] soee: is your xenial a test system? [11:08] clivejo: well i work on it but i always test things here :) [11:09] can I ask you to test something? [11:09] i am not an expert but i know how to fix thngs if something break [11:09] clivejo: sure [11:11] this is purely experimental! [11:11] in my xenial PPA there is a package building - plasma-framework 5.18.0-0ubuntu1.1~ubuntu16.04~ppa1 [11:11] it will take a while to publish [11:12] hmm but im on frameworks 5.21 [11:12] can you install it and test that login splash screen delay [11:12] * clivejo rolls eyes [11:13] is it fixed in frameworks 5.21? [11:13] i doubt, wasn't this patch proposed today ? [11:13] so it will land in 5.22 when accepted i think [11:14] hm, there is a plasma-discover repo again [11:14] well if someone with the delay bug can test that package in my PPA [11:14] yofel: user reported kdeconnect problem on 14.04 do we support it? https://paste.kde.org/pszn44wbc [11:15] clivejo: i'll try i have this bug active atm :) [11:15] soee: can you ppa purge FW5.21? [11:15] and if i have it active and im on Frameworks 5.21 [11:15] it isn;t fixed for sure in this ver [11:16] well if this fix works it can be applied to 5.21 [11:16] but Im not holding my breath [11:18] i think i have to downgrade frameworks [11:34] hmm purging ppa failed with this one [11:34] qml-module-org-kde-activities : Depends: libkf5activities5 (= 5.21.0-0ubuntu1~ubuntu16.04~ppa2) but 5.18.0-0ubuntu1 is to be installed === rdieter_ is now known as rdieter_work [11:40] ok fixed it by manually installing qml-module-org-kde-kquickcontrols_5.18.0-0ubuntu1_amd64.deb [11:40] brb [11:42] clivejo, sgclark: VCS URLs in all repositories updated [11:43] why did you move away from git.debian btw? [11:44] sitter: permission issues and lisandro__ being annoyed at people messing up [11:45] claydoh: iv installed this files from your ppa (all without dev one) [11:45] I am not sure technical solutions to social problems is all that wise, but I can understand the motivation there ^^ [11:45] rather unfortunate [11:45] it's a workaround sure, but like this we can actually get work done [11:45] it breaks plasma in sense not loading panels etc. and teh loading time is even longer [11:53] meh my panel is gone after removing this package === mgraesslin is now known as mgraesslin_ [12:11] Hiyas all [12:14] Hi BluesKaj [12:14] Hi allee [12:23] * allee !@#$% search does not work in quassel-client anymore :-( [12:29] clivejo: so, I wrote a script that should allow to re-upload packages to the PPA (or generate a new upload set) [12:29] pull KA and run ./generate-packages-from-ref -c plasma -w /tmp/generated-packages if you want to alpha-test it [12:31] yofel: hi, I found by accident: kdegraphics-strigi-plugins # qt4 Task: kubuntu-desktop, kubuntu-full [12:31] and qt4 based: baloo-utils libbaloo*4 libakondi-{kmime,kde,kabc}4 kdeconnect [12:31] allee: file a bug against kubuntu-meta please [12:32] k [12:32] doesn't need much info, just what shouldn't be there [13:18] yofel: how does the script handle ppax versions? [13:18] No chat_id set! Add me to a Telegram group and say hi so I can find your group's chat_id! [13:19] clivejo: same as gbp, -s [13:19] No chat_id set! Add me to a Telegram group and say hi so I can find your group's chat_id! [13:19] @IrcsomeBot was added by: @ovidiuflorin [13:20] No chat_id set! Add me to a Telegram group and say hi so I can find your group's chat_id! [13:20] IrcsomeBot was added by: ovidiuflorin [13:20] * yofel throws chat_id's at IrcsomeBot [13:20] IrcsomeBot is the duplicate user created by KDE sysadmins because the didn't want to get ownership of the one I made [13:21] even though I gave it to them [13:21] kubteleirc_bot was removed by: ovidiuflorin [13:22] irksome bot the correct name :-) [13:22] is [13:23] * ovidiuflorin is pissed off because of this [13:23] is anyone else experiencing the plasma login splash delay? [13:24] clivejo: I experience it on a couple of systems I maintain that have Intel GPUs. [13:25] mamarley: could you test a package for me? [13:26] where's the package? My notebook shows the splash a bit long, but that'll have to wait a couple more hours [13:26] clivejo: Tonight, once I get to my parents' house where those two systems reside? [13:26] kubuntu-meta bug filed. [13:27] mamarley: it will break your dekstop a bit imo :) [13:27] soee: did you try it? [13:27] allee: thanks [13:27] clivejo: yes [13:27] and? [13:28] clivejo: loading time is even longer, disk seems to do some hard work during booting, desktop looses all panels, wallpapers etc. so it messes something in configuration [13:29] eakk [13:29] after restoring current version my panel was not restored i had to recreate it [13:30] clivejo: maybe there is something else related to this change in newer Frameworsk that makes it fail on 5.18 ? [13:30] wonder is that the patch or the fact you downgraded [13:30] clivejo: i downgraded to frameworks in archive [13:30] than downloaded debs from launchapd and updated [13:31] yeah, but the downgrade could been to blame for the trashed desktop [13:31] debs from our ppa [13:31] well not it works fine after overwriting your packages and im on 5.18 atm. [13:31]