[01:20] <administrador> Hi. I am using Lubuntu 14.04 64bits. So, all of a sudden Pcmanfm did not launch, I reset the panel and stuff I could find in the internet and now in the menu I only have a run and logout option, I am in Lubuntu Netbook edition since it is the only DE I could login, not LXDE or Openbox I could login, How do I reset all Lubuntu?
[03:12] <aidrocsid> Any of y'all know the difference between Lubuntu and Peppermint? Is it just pre-installed programs?
[05:11] <administrador> I am using Lubuntu 14.04 64bits. I have installed the amdgpu-pro_16.15.2-277429 driver and  Vulkan, rebooted but I do not know how to access a GUI to change my monitor resolution
[05:11] <administrador> hello everyone.
[05:38] <administrador> anyone?
[15:07] <suncokret> how lubuntu 16.04 works? is it better to install it now or to wait some time?
[18:46] <d9500> is there any method to change wallpapers in lubuntu-lxqt independent of changing the whole theme?
[18:47] <d9500> or are the lxqt theme and the wallpaper tied together for now?
[20:52] <n-iCe> hi
[21:52] <stairsandflowers> hello!  i use a latin american keyboard layout, with Ñ key included, which is working. since upgrading to 16.04, the key beside the letter P, which allows for typing accented vowels, does not work. pressing it + a vowel doesn't return á, é, í, ó or ú, just the vowel itself. how can i re-enable the dead key? there is no "latin american, with dead keys" option in my keyboard settings. apologies for such a noob question
[22:13] <n-iCe> stairsandflowers: a mi me funciona
[22:14] <stairsandflowers> (se permite el español en este channel?) and how do you set it up?
[22:14] <n-iCe> ááááá
[22:14] <n-iCe> sí funciona
[22:15] <n-iCe> es que justo ahora estoy en ubuntu
[22:15] <n-iCe> pero en la instalacion le di
[22:15] <n-iCe> spanish latin america
[22:15] <stairsandflowers> so did i.
[22:15] <n-iCe> n osera tu tecla que no sirve
[22:15] <n-iCe> que pasa si la aprietas
[22:15] <stairsandflowers> funciona si uso otro layout. (us, international with dead keys)
[22:16] <n-iCe> que raro
[22:16] <n-iCe> a mi me va bien
[22:16] <stairsandflowers> no ocurre nada. si luego presiono una vocal aparece sin acento.
[22:16] <stairsandflowers> sep. antes funcionaba bien.
[22:16] <stairsandflowers> y no he cambiado nada.
[22:16] <n-iCe> Pero sí he usado lubuntu
[22:17] <stairsandflowers> mi setup esta en spanish, latin american  ya.
[22:18] <n-iCe> No se me ocurre nada
[22:18] <stairsandflowers> me haria falta la opcion spanish latam with dead keys. si la us funciona, deberia haber una para latam quizas
[22:18] <n-iCe> Mas que ve a teclado
[22:18] <stairsandflowers> no lo se
[22:18] <n-iCe> Fijate que sea la primera opción
[22:18] <n-iCe> Y default
[22:18] <stairsandflowers> asi es, es la primera y es defaut
[22:18] <stairsandflowers> default
[22:20] <n-iCe> prueba el live cd
[22:20] <n-iCe> a ver sí ahí funciona
[22:20] <n-iCe> que algo no se haya instalado
[22:20] <n-iCe> com los idiomas
[22:20] <n-iCe> las actualizaciones
[22:21] <stairsandflowers> hm, esta todo actualizado
[22:21] <stairsandflowers> el idioma al menos
[22:21] <stairsandflowers> ya lo revise antes.
[22:29] <stairsandflowers> no se si me he perdido de algo, mi firefox se colgo
[22:32] <n-iCe> que raro jaja
[22:32] <n-iCe> No
[22:33] <n-iCe> Nada, funciona bien, está raro que a ti no.
[22:34] <stairsandflowers> si, lo se
[22:34] <stairsandflowers> muy rarp
[22:34] <stairsandflowers> raro
[22:35] <stairsandflowers> ademas, soy bastante nueva en lo que es lubuntu. tampoco es que conozco ajustes avanzados con los que experimentar.
[23:08] <pod_> helllllooooo
[23:08] <pod_> ugh, i need some help to sway me back to lubuntu :s
[23:09] <pod_> i thought i would try mint, and i'm not liking the cinammon or xcfe and feeling like i should jsut re-do it with lubuntu
[23:11] <n-iCe> reinstall
[23:11] <pod_> you think so? :D
[23:11] <pod_> i miss the days of old with fvwm, mwm, etc on sun sparcs
[23:12] <pod_> also
[23:12] <pod_> is it just me, or is firefox jsut a steaming pile?
[23:12] <pod_> i'm 41yrs old and finally bought my own computer (always had work computers)
[23:13] <pod_> and got a 6th gen core i5, 8gb ram, 2 x 1TB HDD and 1 512gb SSD
[23:13] <pod_> asus, for $450
[23:13] <n-iCe> that's just great
[23:13] <pod_> lol
[23:13] <n-iCe> lubuntu will fly there
[23:13] <pod_> i normally use chrome
[23:13] <pod_> but i loaded up firefox
[23:14] <pod_> and just go to some regular website like stupid cnn.com and firefox is back to it's usualy tricks of taking up 110% cpu time
[23:14] <pod_> and i feel like i'm on my old shitty laptop
[23:14] <pod_> :/
[23:14] <n-iCe> I have never used firefox
[23:14] <n-iCe> so no idea
[23:14] <n-iCe> I use chrome as well
[23:15] <pod_> but yeah, thinking of just going back to lubuntu, i have tried mint for the last couple days once i got past u?efi boot issues
[23:15] <n-iCe> just disable safe boot
[23:15] <n-iCe> should not affect uefi I think.
[23:15] <n-iCe> Right now I'm using Ubuntu.
[23:16] <pod_> my main issue was never-ending pcieport error messages
[23:16] <n-iCe> Wanted to try 16.04 LTS Ubuntu.
[23:16] <pod_> i spent many hours trying to figure it out, googling, on chat etc
[23:16] <pod_> nobody could help
[23:16] <n-iCe> about what
[23:16] <pod_> lemme get a paste of the error
[23:17] <pod_> pcieport 0000:00:1c:6: PCIe Bus Error: severity=Corrected, type=Physical Layer, id=00e6(Receiver ID)
[23:17] <n-iCe> but where and why you get that
[23:17] <pod_> erors like that, neverending, i couldn't boot
[23:17] <pod_> i supressed them with adding in boot command option "pci=nomsi"
[23:17] <n-iCe> cannot you disable it on bios'
[23:18] <pod_> but it turned out there was a bios/efi option for "pci-express power management" or something like that, which i disabled
[23:18] <pod_> and that got rid of it
[23:18] <n-iCe> Good
[23:18] <pod_> but all my googling, chatting, nobody came up with solution
[23:18] <n-iCe> but finally you got it working.
[23:18] <n-iCe> That's good.
[23:18] <pod_> but anyways, yes, i got it working
[23:18] <n-iCe> Anyway with that laptop, you can use any distro you want.
[23:18] <pod_> but thinking i want to go back to lubuntu
[23:19] <pod_> oh, my asus is a desktop
[23:19] <pod_> can't stand laptops, and have no need for one - i still have an old i3 laptop
[23:19] <n-iCe> oh good
[23:19] <n-iCe> :)
[23:19] <n-iCe> I can't use a desktop.
[23:19] <pod_> well, i do need a laptop, but jsut for car stuff
[23:19] <n-iCe> Can't live without my lap.
[23:20] <pod_> i'm a VW guy, and i need something to plug into the car to talk to the ecu
[23:20] <pod_> but for the house, i just want a nice simple fast desktop that i can use to play media and all my other computing needs
[23:21] <n-iCe> lubuntu should work.
[23:21] <n-iCe> all desktops are gonna be fast in that hardware.
[23:21] <pod_> thats what i was using for the last couple years
[23:21] <pod_> for work and then personal
[23:22] <n-iCe> I use Ubuntu 16.04 in a i5 3gen 8Gb RAM 250HD
[23:22] <pod_> n-iCe: except when using firefox lol
[23:22] <n-iCe> And is extremadly fast
[23:22] <n-iCe> pod_: let me open firefox to check
[23:22] <n-iCe> hold on
[23:22] <pod_> do it
[23:22] <n-iCe> don't think is that way
[23:22] <pod_> load up firefox
[23:22] <pod_> go to cnn.com
[23:22] <pod_> then run top
[23:22] <n-iCe> ok right now I am using 3.2GB RAM
[23:23] <pod_> every linux i've used over the years, firefox has always been a raging bloat
[23:23] <pod_> even this fresh install of mint 17.3
[23:23] <n-iCe> loading cnn
[23:23] <n-iCe> and RAM went to 3.5GB
[23:23] <pod_> don't forget to read all the important news !
[23:23] <n-iCe> 300MB
[23:23] <n-iCe> is not that much
[23:23] <pod_> what about cpu usage?
[23:24] <n-iCe> does not go up than 9%
[23:24] <n-iCe> not any of my 4 proccesors
[23:24] <pod_> weird
[23:24] <pod_> here i am now:
[23:24] <n-iCe> And I have chrome with 4 tabs, facebook, whatsapp yahoo and google translate
[23:24] <pod_> 1835 gl        20   0 1689820 186744  85392 S   3.3  2.3   2:20.17 cinnamon     1272 root      20   0 1359460 245724 227864 S   2.3  3.0   1:22.45 Xorg
[23:24] <pod_> crappy paste
[23:24] <pod_> but thats without firefox
[23:25] <n-iCe> checked
[23:25] <pod_> got some cinammon and xorg
[23:25] <n-iCe> firefox just using 330MB
[23:25] <pod_> i will start firefox
[23:25] <n-iCe> chrome with the tabs
[23:25] <n-iCe> is using almost 2GB
[23:25] <n-iCe> Dammit
[23:25] <pod_> lol
[23:25] <n-iCe> never checked that before
[23:25] <n-iCe> haha
[23:26] <pod_>  7055 gl        20   0 1419636 432676  91316 S  73.2  5.4   0:37.37 firefox
[23:26] <pod_>  7134 gl        20   0  974280 244652  56784 R  57.2  3.0   0:15.14 plugin-con+
[23:26] <pod_> load up firefox, go to cnn, click on a link
[23:26] <pod_> and now my computer feels like a turd
[23:26] <n-iCe> weird
[23:27] <pod_> firefox taking 73% cpu, plugin-container taking 57%
[23:27] <pod_> and slow as molasses
[23:27] <pod_> so dumb
[23:27] <n-iCe> well, download lubuntu
[23:27] <pod_> anyways... i haven't used firefox in ages, but mint came with firefox
[23:27] <pod_> so i was using it for a bit until i got my bearings
[23:28] <pod_> my linux install-fu is a bit rusty
[23:28] <pod_> but if i install lubuntu over what my current system
[23:28] <n-iCe> would be great
[23:28] <pod_> it won't delete what i've got im my /home/gl diretory right?
[23:28] <pod_> gl is my initals
[23:29] <pod_> *initials
[23:29] <n-iCe> Well youc an chose not to do it
[23:29] <n-iCe> if you installed in a different partition
[23:29] <n-iCe> if now, will be deleted
[23:29] <n-iCe> not*
[23:29] <pod_> ugh no i didn't
[23:29] <n-iCe> use the live cd, create a partition
[23:29] <n-iCe> and move all there
[23:29] <pod_> i can do that
[23:29] <n-iCe> if you don't have a usb or a external hard disk
[23:30] <pod_> i have 2 1TB drives
[23:30] <n-iCe> then don't see the problem :p
[23:30] <pod_> i only installed the linux on the 512gb SSD
[23:30] <pod_> i wanted my two regular HDDs to just be like extra disks
[23:32] <pod_> lxde doesn't have transparency in windows.. iirc
[23:33] <pod_> that was the fanciest feature i kinda liked
[23:34] <n-iCe> lxde is really basic
[23:34] <n-iCe> that's why is so fast
[23:34] <n-iCe> try ubuntu mate instead
[23:34] <n-iCe> or xubuntu if you want fancy stuff
[23:34] <pod_> i like basic
[23:35] <pod_> i have an '82 rabbit i restored, but put a turbo-diesel engine in it
[23:35] <pod_> still basic. love it
[23:37] <pod_> lubuntu has a newer kernel than mint?
[23:40] <n-iCe> I don't use mint
[23:40] <n-iCe> 4.4.0-22 is what lubuntu use
[23:40] <n-iCe> Mint should use the same, since it is Ubuntu based.
[23:44] <pod_> System:    Host: gl Kernel: 3.19.0-32-generic x86_64 (64 bit)
[23:44] <pod_> ??
[23:44] <pod_> thats what inxi -S gives me
[23:45] <n-iCe> uname -r
[23:46] <pod_> i tried that
[23:46] <pod_> also. gives me the same 3.19
[23:46] <n-iCe> that's old
[23:46] <pod_> thats nuts
[23:47] <pod_> why would the newest version of mint, which is supposedly super popular use such an old kernel?
[23:47] <pod_> ughhh
[23:47] <n-iCe> do, sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[23:47] <n-iCe> :)
[23:47] <pod_> oh yeah, i could do that...
[23:48] <pod_> i didn't even think of that
[23:48] <pod_> i jsut figured, the spankin newest version of mint which i downloaded 2 days ago should have a newer kernel than that
[23:50] <pod_> bbiaf... lubuntu downloading slow