=== liulanghan_ is now known as liulanghan [02:32] hello [02:33] shame that man is apparently not included in ubuntu touch? weird === JanC is now known as Guest97342 === JanC_ is now known as JanC [03:42] hey [03:42] i need help with a 2012 ASUS Nexus 7 [03:57] so the question I'm facing now is... how do I set up chroot on this thing [04:06] "failed to run /bin/bash': no such file or directory. Well, here's to more learning [04:40] hi all [04:40] :D [04:42] I am putting ubuntu-touch on my nexus 7 2013 wifi [04:42] :) [04:42] aka flo [05:23] what's the recommended way to install programs (programs that aren't ubuntu touch apps from the app store)? [05:23] for example if i wanted to install pip or ruby or mosh... [05:47] swalladge: Does apt work? [05:57] apparently i have to set the system to read/write to use that, and then i loose updates... [05:57] (new user here) [05:58] there doesn't seem to be a proper way to install packages as user on linux at the moment... [06:29] hrm [06:30] I haven't setup Ubuntu Touch yet myself, that's a bis disheartening to hear [06:30] I wonder how much of Ubuntu Touch is affected by Android decisions, since I think it's designed to sit on top of an Android kernel / libhybris, etc [06:35] yeah i was hoping it would keep the installing/upgrading via apt-get, but it seems to have gone the way of android - OTA updates, no root access by default, sandboxed apps, weird display server so it cuts out all X11 apps... :( [06:36] the whole convergence thing is a great idea - running a full linux system with a touch based interface optimsed for small screens as well [08:45] swalladge: That sucks :( . A jailbroken iPhone even has root access! [08:50] swalladge: there are other options, it's not quite as bleak as you make out [08:50] swalladge: you can for example create a small chroot on your phone/tablet and use ruby/pip inside that [10:01] ¿Does anyone here have the M10? [10:13] hi, how do i bring the keyboard on screen when gedit or libreoffice is in focus? [10:16] popey: Is there a way to have Ubuntu Touch behave as a normal Debain distro? [10:17] keysaway: it is not possible yet. you have to use a bluetooth/usb keyboard [10:19] okay ^^ [10:24] brunch875: i have one on order [10:24] wew I don't use tablets but I really want to know how it is like [10:25] I've never used tablets because slow + non-desktop apps [10:25] well the M10 won't help with the first part of that equation [10:25] hardware covers the first and this project covers the second :P [10:27] i bought mine mostly as a vote of confidence in the idea. really waiting for better hardware. [10:27] 1.3GHz... that's a bit low [10:27] the MediaTek CPU in the M10 is so slow. it scores about ~20 in the JetStream JavaScript benchmark (vs ~220 on my desktop i5) [10:28] doesn't that give issues with android too? [10:29] I mean, ubuntu is big with the desktop applications [10:29] but android has all the java bloat ;p [10:31] yeah its not great in general. but I guess we should be happy that BQ was willing to get behind an ubuntu edition tablet at all [10:32] I'm pretty happy about BQ [10:32] whole family has a phone with that brand [10:34] altker128: we haven't designed it to be like that, but someone else could make a more traditional image if they want [10:35] I've just realized my laptop has a sim card slot [10:35] I also spotted SMS and phone indicators on unity [10:36] I think I'll grab some spare card to test it [10:36] "Enable mobile broadband", stuff like that [10:37] texting and placing phone calls from laptop is some very interesting concept of this 'convergence' :p [11:05] brunch875: It's probably for a 3G/4G modem/data connection [11:17] mobile broadband is for dongles [11:17] and built in mobile data [12:19] mm does libertine only handle arm deb files or should it take amd64 ones? [12:20] it sees the deb file but it does nothing when I click it [12:38] ahoneybun, if you have an arm64 libertine container, it will only take arm64 binaries, likewise with armhf [12:38] so it won't take amd64? [12:38] an amd64 container will take amd64 binaries, and i386 binaries if you enable multi-arch [12:39] you can not run amd64 or i386 binaries on ARM hardware [12:39] mm [12:39] alright thanks bregma :) [12:40] unless there is a working CPU emulator like QEMU that will do the trick, but I've only met with grief whenever I try that [12:41] Fellows the "framework" option on manifest what is used for? [12:41] When developing scopes? [12:43] I try to build an ionic application for ubuntu phone but I get the following error: paste.ubuntu.com/16278113/ [12:43] When I try to verify the click package [13:07] pc_magas: framework should be something like ubuntu-sdk-15.04.4 - like these http://termbin.com/ftjn (taken from /usr/share/click/frameworks [13:08] popey, Thanks [13:08] np === M-davidar is now known as davidar [13:10] Hello is anyone familar with bonding two usbinternet connections to one in order to get faster internet? [13:11] But the problem is by defauls ionic adds a zillion folders and I do not know hot to build it as ubuntu scope. I tried many thinkgs to figure out but I get WAY to much folders that I think are unessesary. I compared it with a simple HTML5 application I have made through SDK. I noticed that ionic adds and cpp files and I do not know why! [13:12] string__: sounds like a question for #ubuntu [13:13] Ok popey thank you [15:08] wtf. i can't seem to create a new sms chat in rc-proposed now. messaging-app says "you need to select a sim card" but i only have one sim card, and it's working fine otherwise (calls, data, and reply in existing sms chats) [15:13] be happy it didnt tell you to use whatsapp :P [15:14] hi there [15:14] anyone alive to help? [15:15] well after the latest update, my wireless is freezing, i need to switch it off then on to make it work. It's happening regularly now. [15:15] ogra_: yes, well, i actually need working sms [15:16] any ideas? [15:16] bqphone: ota 10.1? [15:16] yes [15:17] at home and at work same thing [15:17] bqphone: did you wait long enough, that your wifi is able to rescan? [15:18] well its like i open something and in the middle it freezes [15:18] bqphone: or tried disable wifi, to be able to re-scan your ssid [15:18] or when i am checking for updates, it keep on searching or when i open website i get the no internet page [15:19] so when i turn wifi off then on everything works normal, [15:19] thats normal behaviour [15:19] wifi needs time to be able to rescan when you move [15:19] well even in same location? [15:20] it wasn't like that before update [15:20] if your connected to a iwif, it should not be freezing [15:20] wifi [15:20] its freezing often now [15:20] i mean internet not the phone [15:21] i keep needing to turn it off and on to make it work again [15:21] turn phone off, or wifi? [15:21] wifi [15:21] how often does it freeze after you re-enable it? [15:22] well its like when i put the phone near me [15:22] and check in few minutes, i need to do that again [15:22] hmmm [15:22] bqphone: and you sure there's nothing wrong with your wifi signals itself? [15:23] its happening everywhere now [15:23] i also got a bq 4.5 works like a charm on ota 10.1 here [15:23] and i am near my modem so the signal is full [15:23] bqphone: you tested on several wifi points? [15:23] was working perfectly also and sudenly its annoying [15:23] yea, at home at work and in cafe [15:23] ah, messaging-app was fixed 10 hrs ago, but that isn't in the latest image [15:23] same story [15:24] bqphone: ok, here what you can try, to set your phone to defaults again [15:24] bqphone: see if it makes a difference [15:24] okay [15:24] bqphone: if not working: check the bugs url in our topic [15:24] bqphone: if your bug isnt there, make a new one [15:25] bqphone: you can also check whats going on from terminal with tail -f /var/log/syslog [15:25] okay [15:25] bqphone: check some wifi errors there [15:28] well terminal has just got an update and its not opening, i guess its time to restart the phone [15:33] i used the tail -f, should i get an error message? [15:35] bqphone: play with your wifi now: disable/re-enable [15:35] bqphone: youl get messages in the syslog [15:39] QObject::disconnect:Unexpected null parameter [15:39] before it wlan0: CTRL-EVENT-SCAN-Started [15:39] is that useful info? :) [15:41] bqphone: not sure, how to debug myself..best to check if there exists a bug already, if not file a new bug [15:43] well thanks for your help lotus [15:44] bqphone: did you refrsh phone? [15:44] to defaults? [15:50] how do i do that? [15:50] bqphone: system settings [15:51] bqphone: backup your stuff before you do ok, pictures, files,etc [15:51] you mean reset it? [15:52] will do that later [21:16] um, did anyone else get this with a BQ Aquaris E4.5: phone turns off, won't start; I plug it in, says battery is at 29%, still won't start (shows me a battery with a hourglass on it) [21:16] then on subsequent checks battery percentage drops (20, 17, 16%...) [21:17] mkay, eventually it went back to 17% and now it boots [21:55] anyone recently (and successfully) followed the instructions at https://developer.ubuntu.com/en/phone/devices/porting-new-device/ to set up a development environment? [22:23] Anyone know if there is a way mount exfat partitions on ubuntu touch?