[02:32] <grasstype> hello
[02:33] <grasstype> shame that man is apparently not included in ubuntu touch? weird
[03:42] <Fishbone96> hey
[03:42] <Fishbone96> i need help with a 2012 ASUS Nexus 7
[03:57] <grasstype> so the question I'm facing now is... how do I set up chroot on this thing
[04:06] <grasstype> "failed to run /bin/bash': no such file or directory. Well, here's to more learning
[04:40] <mattwj2002> hi all
[04:40] <mattwj2002> :D
[04:42] <mattwj2002> I am putting ubuntu-touch on my nexus 7 2013 wifi
[04:42] <mattwj2002> :)
[04:42] <mattwj2002> aka flo
[05:23] <swalladge> what's the recommended way to install programs (programs that aren't ubuntu touch apps from the app store)?
[05:23] <swalladge> for example if i wanted to install pip or ruby or mosh...
[05:47] <altker128> swalladge: Does apt work?
[05:57] <swalladge> apparently i have to set the system to read/write to use that, and then i loose updates...
[05:57] <swalladge> (new user here)
[05:58] <swalladge> there doesn't seem to be a proper way to install packages as user on linux at the moment...
[06:29] <altker128> hrm
[06:30] <altker128> I haven't setup Ubuntu Touch yet myself, that's a bis disheartening to hear
[06:30] <altker128> I wonder how much of Ubuntu Touch is affected by Android decisions, since I think it's designed to sit on top of an Android kernel / libhybris, etc
[06:35] <swalladge> yeah i was hoping it would keep the installing/upgrading via apt-get, but it seems to have gone the way of android - OTA updates, no root access by default, sandboxed apps, weird display server so it cuts out all X11 apps... :(
[06:36] <swalladge> the whole convergence thing is a great idea - running a full linux system with a touch based interface optimsed for small screens as well
[08:45] <altker128> swalladge: That sucks :( .  A jailbroken iPhone even has root access!
[08:50] <popey> swalladge: there are other options, it's not quite as bleak as you make out
[08:50] <popey> swalladge: you can for example create a small chroot on your phone/tablet and use ruby/pip inside that
[10:01] <brunch875> ¿Does anyone here have the M10?
[10:13] <keysaway> hi, how do i bring the keyboard on screen when gedit or libreoffice is in focus?
[10:16] <altker128> popey: Is there a way to have Ubuntu Touch behave as a normal Debain distro?
[10:17] <kurros> keysaway: it is not possible yet. you have to use a bluetooth/usb keyboard
[10:19] <keysaway> okay ^^
[10:24] <popey> brunch875: i have one on order
[10:24] <brunch875> wew I don't use tablets but I really want to know how it is like
[10:25] <brunch875> I've never used tablets because slow + non-desktop apps
[10:25] <kurros> well the M10 won't help with the first part of that equation
[10:25] <brunch875> hardware covers the first and this project covers the second :P
[10:27] <kurros> i bought mine mostly as a vote of confidence in the idea. really waiting for better hardware.
[10:27] <brunch875> 1.3GHz... that's a bit low
[10:27] <kurros> the MediaTek CPU in the M10 is so slow. it scores about ~20 in the JetStream JavaScript benchmark (vs ~220 on my desktop i5)
[10:28] <brunch875> doesn't that give issues with android too?
[10:29] <brunch875> I mean, ubuntu is big with the desktop applications
[10:29] <brunch875> but android has all the java bloat ;p
[10:31] <kurros> yeah its not great in general. but I guess we should be happy that BQ was willing to get behind an ubuntu edition tablet at all
[10:32] <brunch875> I'm pretty happy about BQ
[10:32] <brunch875> whole family has a phone with that brand
[10:34] <popey> altker128: we haven't designed it to be like that, but someone else could make a more traditional image if they want
[10:35] <brunch875> I've just realized my laptop has a sim card slot
[10:35] <brunch875> I also spotted SMS and phone indicators on unity
[10:36] <brunch875> I think I'll grab some spare card to test it
[10:36] <brunch875> "Enable mobile broadband", stuff like that
[10:37] <brunch875> texting and placing phone calls from laptop is some very interesting concept of this 'convergence' :p
[11:05] <altker128> brunch875: It's probably for a 3G/4G modem/data connection
[11:17] <popey> mobile broadband is for dongles
[11:17] <popey> and built in mobile data
[12:19] <ahoneybun> mm does libertine only handle arm deb files or should it take amd64 ones?
[12:20] <ahoneybun> it sees the deb file but it does nothing when I click it
[12:38] <bregma> ahoneybun, if you have an arm64 libertine container, it will only take arm64 binaries, likewise with armhf
[12:38] <ahoneybun> so it won't take amd64?
[12:38] <bregma> an amd64 container will take amd64 binaries, and i386 binaries if you enable multi-arch
[12:39] <bregma> you can not run amd64 or i386 binaries on ARM hardware
[12:39] <ahoneybun> mm
[12:39] <ahoneybun> alright thanks bregma :)
[12:40] <bregma> unless there is a working CPU emulator like QEMU that will do the trick, but I've only met with grief whenever I try that
[12:41] <pc_magas> Fellows the "framework" option on manifest what is used for?
[12:41] <pc_magas> When developing scopes?
[12:43] <pc_magas> I try to build an ionic application for ubuntu phone but I get the following error: paste.ubuntu.com/16278113/
[12:43] <pc_magas> When I try to verify the click package
[13:07] <popey> pc_magas: framework should be something like ubuntu-sdk-15.04.4 - like these http://termbin.com/ftjn (taken from /usr/share/click/frameworks
[13:08] <pc_magas> popey, Thanks
[13:08] <popey> np
[13:10] <string__> Hello is anyone familar with bonding two usbinternet connections to one in order to get faster internet?
[13:11] <pc_magas> But the problem is by defauls ionic adds a zillion folders and I do not know hot to build it as ubuntu scope. I tried many thinkgs to figure out but I get WAY to much folders that I think are unessesary. I compared it with a simple HTML5 application I have made through SDK. I noticed that ionic adds and cpp files and I do not know why!
[13:12] <popey> string__: sounds like a question for #ubuntu
[13:13] <string__> Ok popey thank you
[15:08] <dobey> wtf. i can't seem to create a new sms chat in rc-proposed now. messaging-app says "you need to select a sim card" but i only have one sim card, and it's working fine otherwise (calls, data, and reply in existing sms chats)
[15:13] <ogra_> be happy it didnt tell you to use whatsapp :P
[15:14] <bqphone> hi there
[15:14] <bqphone> anyone alive to help?
[15:15] <bqphone> well after the latest update, my wireless is freezing, i need to switch it off then on to make it work. It's happening regularly now.
[15:15] <dobey> ogra_: yes, well, i actually need working sms
[15:16] <bqphone> any ideas?
[15:16] <lotuspsychje> bqphone: ota 10.1?
[15:16] <bqphone> yes
[15:17] <bqphone> at home and at work same thing
[15:17] <lotuspsychje> bqphone: did you wait long enough, that your wifi is able to rescan?
[15:18] <bqphone> well its like i open something and in the middle it freezes
[15:18] <lotuspsychje> bqphone: or tried disable wifi, to be able to re-scan your ssid
[15:18] <bqphone> or when i am checking for updates, it keep on searching or when i open website i get the no internet page
[15:19] <bqphone> so when i turn wifi off then on everything works normal,
[15:19] <lotuspsychje> thats normal behaviour
[15:19] <lotuspsychje> wifi needs time to be able to rescan when you move
[15:19] <bqphone> well even in same location?
[15:20] <bqphone> it wasn't like that before update
[15:20] <lotuspsychje> if your connected to a iwif, it should not be freezing
[15:20] <lotuspsychje> wifi
[15:20] <bqphone> its freezing often now
[15:20] <bqphone> i mean internet not the phone
[15:21] <bqphone> i keep needing to turn it off and on to make it work again
[15:21] <lotuspsychje> turn phone off, or wifi?
[15:21] <bqphone> wifi
[15:21] <lotuspsychje> how often does it freeze after you re-enable it?
[15:22] <bqphone> well its like when i put the phone near me
[15:22] <bqphone> and check in few minutes, i need to do that again
[15:22] <lotuspsychje> hmmm
[15:22] <lotuspsychje> bqphone: and you sure there's nothing wrong with your wifi signals itself?
[15:23] <bqphone> its happening everywhere now
[15:23] <lotuspsychje> i also got a bq 4.5 works like a charm on ota 10.1 here
[15:23] <bqphone> and i am near my modem so the signal is full
[15:23] <lotuspsychje> bqphone: you tested on several wifi points?
[15:23] <bqphone> was working perfectly also and sudenly its annoying
[15:23] <bqphone> yea, at home at work and in cafe
[15:23] <dobey> ah, messaging-app was fixed 10 hrs ago, but that isn't in the latest image
[15:23] <bqphone> same story
[15:24] <lotuspsychje> bqphone: ok, here what you can try, to set your phone to defaults again
[15:24] <lotuspsychje> bqphone: see if it makes a difference
[15:24] <bqphone> okay
[15:24] <lotuspsychje> bqphone: if not working: check the bugs url in our topic
[15:24] <lotuspsychje> bqphone: if your bug isnt there, make a new one
[15:25] <lotuspsychje> bqphone: you can also check whats going on from terminal with tail -f /var/log/syslog
[15:25] <bqphone> okay
[15:25] <lotuspsychje> bqphone: check some wifi errors there
[15:28] <bqphone> well terminal has just got an update and its not opening, i guess its time to restart the phone
[15:33] <bqphone> i used the tail -f, should i get an error message?
[15:35] <lotuspsychje> bqphone: play with your wifi now: disable/re-enable
[15:35] <lotuspsychje> bqphone: youl get messages in the syslog
[15:39] <bqphone> QObject::disconnect:Unexpected null parameter
[15:39] <bqphone> before it wlan0: CTRL-EVENT-SCAN-Started
[15:39] <bqphone> is that useful info? :)
[15:41] <lotuspsychje> bqphone: not sure, how to debug myself..best to check if there exists a bug already, if not file a new bug
[15:43] <bqphone> well thanks for your help lotus
[15:44] <lotuspsychje> bqphone: did you refrsh phone?
[15:44] <lotuspsychje> to defaults?
[15:50] <bqphone> how do i do that?
[15:50] <lotuspsychje> bqphone: system settings
[15:51] <lotuspsychje> bqphone: backup your stuff before you do ok, pictures, files,etc
[15:51] <bqphone> you mean reset it?
[15:52] <bqphone> will do that later
[21:16] <m0n5t3r_> um, did anyone else get this with a BQ Aquaris E4.5: phone turns off, won't start; I plug it in, says battery is at 29%, still won't start (shows me a battery with a hourglass on it)
[21:16] <m0n5t3r_> then on subsequent checks battery percentage drops (20, 17, 16%...)
[21:17] <m0n5t3r_> mkay, eventually it went back to 17% and now it boots
[21:55] <bba> anyone recently (and successfully) followed the instructions at https://developer.ubuntu.com/en/phone/devices/porting-new-device/ to set up a development environment?
[22:23] <patwest> Anyone know if there is a way mount exfat partitions on ubuntu touch?