| allee | Hi, is yakkety daily iso already good enough for aVM test install or better xenial iso + kubuntu-devel-release-upgrade? | 09:06 |
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| soee_ | clivejo: why almost all packages in xenial plasma staging have dependency wait ? | 10:03 |
| allee | yakkety daily works: does not reboot after install. but boots after reset. So if there a need to test something in yakkety ping me. | 10:23 |
| soee_ | allee: did you tested in VB ? | 10:26 |
| allee | soee_: just installed from iso and logged in right now.. No further testing of daily iso. | 10:28 |
| allee | do staging pkg still need debuging testing? | 10:28 |
| soee_ | i see, i was not able to install it in VB | 10:29 |
| soee_ | allee: i think Frameworks 5.21 and Plasma 5.6.3 are ready for tests in YY but wait for clivejo to confirm that | 10:30 |
| allee | soee_: 2 days ago I ended up in console. Todays daily work | 10:30 |
| allee | soee_: a that would be cool, mean I can verify bugs and pkgs are recent enough to report them at b.k.o. Hug to everyone involved! You all do great job! | 10:33 |
| soee_ | seems like all is green: https://launchpad.net/~kubuntu-ppa/+archive/ubuntu/staging-plasma/+packages?field.series_filter=yakkety | 10:37 |
| mamarley | soee_: I don't think it is ready. My test VM won't install plasma 5.6.3 due kactivities 5.21 not being available. | 10:37 |
| soee_ | so in Plasma staging ppa you have both Plasma 5.6.3 and Frameworks 5.21 | 10:37 |
| soee_ | i see | 10:38 |
| BluesKaj | Howdy folks | 10:38 |
| allee | BluesKaj: morning | 10:38 |
| BluesKaj | 'Morning allee | 10:39 |
| soee_ | Ubuntu 16.10 (Yakkety Yak) Will Soon Be Powered by Linux Kernel 4.6 | 10:54 |
| BluesKaj | soee_, ok , latest Linus release? | 10:56 |
| allee | soee_: I hope this will fix the broken VB guest compilation failure in y ;-) | 10:58 |
| BluesKaj | qemu-kvm failed here as well | 11:03 |
| soee_ | allee: you are using YY on test machine ? | 11:17 |
| renee77 | hey all | 11:21 |
| renee77 | My laptop stopped working now on tablet does someone now how I can install vim and gcc on it on touch channel no reaction I donot know where to ask else :( | 11:22 |
| clivejo | mamarley: i think I see what Id done (or didnt do) in plasma-workspace I was pulling in the old kactivities package, but thats dead now and I need to pull in plasma-intregation | 11:22 |
| mamarley | Ah, OK. | 11:23 |
| clivejo | whats why it was loooking for kactivities | 11:23 |
| mamarley | (I wasn't trying to complain; I was just cautioning people against trying to install it and then ending up with a broken system.) | 11:23 |
| soee_ | mamarley: that is the best in testing ;D | 11:23 |
| allee | soee_: yakkety run in Virtualbox 5.0.20. Hosting laptop is xenial | 11:24 |
| soee_ | to end up with broken system and fixing it in the next step ::) | 11:24 |
| clivejo | mamarley: thats what we need! Testing Testing Testing | 11:24 |
| soee_ | allee: i tried daily 2 days ago and couldn't go further than 2nd step as "next" button was not working .. | 11:25 |
| allee | renee77: this is a development channel. Better try #kubuntu | 11:25 |
| clivejo | the swap to the new kactivitymanagerd thing is confusing me | 11:25 |
| renee77 | lol I know this is dev :) | 11:25 |
| renee77 | I'll hope to join soon | 11:25 |
| soee_ | allee: renee77 wants to be dev :) | 11:25 |
| * allee hides | 11:26 | |
| renee77 | ?me smiles @ allee | 11:26 |
| clivejo | mamarley: for some reason my YY system is working without activities! | 11:26 |
| allee | soee_: I did a zsync this morning to get a fresh YY is | 11:26 |
| allee | o | 11:27 |
| clivejo | did yofel rebuild FW5.21 last night | 11:27 |
| clivejo | I kinda passed out :/ | 11:28 |
| renee77 | I was hoping to get some practice on pad because laptop bleeps anoyingly saying cmos battery needs replacement did replace not wanted results | 11:28 |
| yofel | I just fixed a bunch of things, should be ~done now | 11:28 |
| clivejo | ah hi yofel | 11:28 |
| * yofel passed out a bit later | 11:28 | |
| clivejo | yofel: do you understand this kactivitymanagerd thing? | 11:28 |
| yofel | I read that it got moved | 11:28 |
| clivejo | looks like some parts are still in frameworks and some are now in plasma | 11:29 |
| renee77 | So thought should try on ubuntu tablet but do not know which channel for support | 11:29 |
| clivejo | renee77: I think #ubuntu-touch | 11:29 |
| renee77 | Ok I'll try again :D thank you @clivejo | 11:30 |
| clivejo | but it is a Sunday, most people are at the sea side licking icecreams | 11:30 |
| renee77 | ahhh :D | 11:30 |
| renee77 | I started with itterations now :D | 11:30 |
| * clivejo day dreams of nice sunny May weather | 11:31 | |
| renee77 | lol me want to assist soon enjoying sun in garden | 11:31 |
| clivejo | its raining here | 11:32 |
| clivejo | wet and miserable | 11:32 |
| renee77 | aii here it is 27 degrees nice and sunny | 11:32 |
| clivejo | if only | 11:33 |
| renee77 | come over if your fit you can swim over ;) | 11:33 |
| clivejo | come where? | 11:33 |
| renee77 | nl | 11:33 |
| clivejo | thats a long swim | 11:34 |
| renee77 | not uK | 11:34 |
| renee77 | srrt | 11:34 |
| renee77 | srry | 11:34 |
| clivejo | next island over | 11:34 |
| renee77 | lol | 11:34 |
| renee77 | oops | 11:34 |
| renee77 | ok trying ubuntu touch now | 11:34 |
| renee77 | thanks :D | 11:35 |
| clivejo | are there any tools to visualise these dependencies? | 11:37 |
| clivejo | yofel: how do we pull in those new breeze-grub and plymouth theme? | 11:41 |
| yofel | add them to the seed and remove the existing ones | 11:45 |
| yofel | (you can't do that) | 11:45 |
| clivejo | hum | 11:45 |
| clivejo | Setting up plymouth-theme-breeze (5.6.3-0ubuntu1~ubuntu16.10~ppa12) ... | 11:45 |
| clivejo | update-alternatives: error: alternative path /lib/plymouth/themes/breeze/breeze.plymouth doesn't exist | 11:45 |
| clivejo | thats not good | 11:46 |
| yofel | nope | 11:46 |
| clivejo | grub seems to work :/ | 11:46 |
| clivejo | mamarley: can you do an apt update and try installing plasma-workspace now | 11:51 |
| clivejo | humm | 11:57 |
| clivejo | The following packages have unmet dependencies. | 11:57 |
| clivejo | kde-spectacle : Depends: libkf5screen6 (>= 5.1.1) but it is not going to be installed | 11:57 |
| clivejo | weird | 12:09 |
| clivejo | Activities are working again | 12:09 |
| clivejo | but my panel keeps jumping to the wrong screen | 12:09 |
| clivejo | despite moving it back and the KickOff menu seems to always open on it too | 12:09 |
| clivejo | eak | 12:13 |
| clivejo | now thats weird! | 12:13 |
| clivejo | mamarley: let me know how you get on | 12:13 |
| yofel | clivejo: the lib needs a transition (i.e. spectacle a no-change-rebuild | 12:17 |
| yofel | and a dep-bump on the new version | 12:17 |
| soee | bleh, can someone confirm that we can't remove file son the phone from Dolphin using KDEConnect? | 13:32 |
| clivejo | yofel: did you just copy FW5.21 YY into plasma-staging? | 13:46 |
| allee | soee: kdeconnect in xenial or yy? | 13:48 |
| soee | x | 13:51 |
| allee | soee: in x I did delete right now a complete audiobook (dir+files) with shift-del | 13:52 |
| yofel | clivejo: no | 13:53 |
| soee | :/ | 13:53 |
| allee | which pkg provides the lockscreen? (I try to figure out why icons of sddm /usr/share/sddm/faces/ and lockscreen are diverent) | 14:03 |
| clivejo | FW5.22 about to be publish by KDE | 14:04 |
| clivejo | a new package kwayland | 14:04 |
| clivejo | is that a move of the plasma/kwayland package to frameworks? | 14:05 |
| clivejo | or a brand new package to mess up the naming of packages | 14:06 |
| yofel | that's something you probably want to ask on the packagers ML | 14:06 |
| allee | which pkg provides the lockscreen? (I try to figure out why icons of sddm /usr/share/sddm/faces/ and lockscreen are different) | 14:07 |
| clivejo | I think our package is kscreenlocker | 14:09 |
| clivejo | the source | 14:09 |
| clivejo | https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kscreenlocker | 14:10 |
| clivejo | allee: I lost my sddm plasma theme | 14:11 |
| clivejo | I got it back by "sudo apt install sddm-theme-breeze" | 14:13 |
| allee | That's installed here too. But login icons are picked from /usr/share/sddm/faces/ | 14:14 |
| allee | default icons were always different in plasma5 AFAIR | 14:15 |
| allee | Okay. login screen: /usr/share/sddm/faces/default.icon (PNG) and lockscreen obviously like file:///usr/share/icons/breeze/actions/24/user-identity.svg | 14:31 |
| allee | Now PNG != SVG and only oxygen comes with png variants. breeze only with SVG :-( | 14:32 |
| soee | wrr 200 MB upload to Youtube = 35 min :/ | 15:08 |
| mamarley | clivejo: It is installing, though it removed the "kactivities" package as part of that. | 15:18 |
| mamarley | clivejo: It is installing, though it removed the "kactivities" package as part of that. | 15:19 |
| mamarley | Oops, sorry. | 15:19 |
| mamarley | sudo systemctl reboot | 15:20 |
| mamarley | Darnit! | 15:20 |
| mamarley | clivejo: It installs and starts! | 15:21 |
| * mamarley can't wait to have it on Xenial. :) | 15:21 | |
| soee | mamarley: almost ready for Xenial http://qa.kubuntu.co.uk/ppa-status/plasma/build_status_5.6.3_xenial.html | 15:34 |
| soee | me want lab liek that: http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=wild-linux-40&num=1 :_ | 16:06 |
| mamarley | soee: Except not, because plasma-integration is FTBFS: https://launchpad.net/~kubuntu-ppa/+archive/ubuntu/staging-plasma/+build/9706055 | 16:33 |
| mamarley | plasma-workspace build-depends on that, and then a bunch of other stuff build-depends on various packages from plasma-workspace. | 16:34 |
| mamarley | clivejo: ^Did you see that? | 16:34 |
| soee | mamarley: what is FTBFS? | 16:37 |
| mamarley | soee: plasma-integration. I linked to the build page. | 16:38 |
| mamarley | clivejo: It looks like it built against kwayland 5.5.5, which appears the be the problem. A no-change rebuild should make it compile. | 16:40 |
| mamarley | Also, the build-dep version needs to be bumped, I would think. | 16:40 |
| clivejo | !info kwayland-dev | 18:54 |
| ubottu | kwayland-dev (source: kwayland): development files for kwayland. In component universe, is optional. Version 4:5.5.5-0ubuntu1 (yakkety), package size 47 kB, installed size 444 kB | 18:54 |
| soee | :( | 18:59 |
| mamarley | soee: kwayland 5.6.3 was built successfully in the PPA, but plasma-integration apparently built first and got 5.5.5. | 19:00 |
| clivejo | yup | 19:00 |
| clivejo | Im adding a min version to kwayland-dev | 19:00 |
| clivejo | thanks for the tip off mamarley | 19:00 |
| mamarley | No problem :) | 19:00 |
| clivejo | uploaded | 19:02 |
| mamarley | Thank you! | 19:02 |
| clivejo | wonder why its not showing on the status page | 19:02 |
| mamarley | We really appreciate your work. :) | 19:02 |
| clivejo | Ive pushed it to yakkety too# | 19:03 |
| clivejo | I should add kwayland-dev to the build deps list | 19:03 |
| clivejo | so our scripts can bump that | 19:04 |
| clivejo | humm, it is there | 19:05 |
| clivejo | wonder why it didnt pick it up | 19:06 |
| mamarley | The rebuild seems to have worked, anyway. | 19:06 |
| clivejo | but why isnt plasma-integartion showing on the status page - http://qa.kubuntu.co.uk/ppa-status/plasma/build_status_5.6.3_xenial.html | 19:08 |
| mamarley | Yeah, that's odd. | 19:08 |
| clivejo | see if it appears when it gets published | 19:09 |
| mamarley | Stupid slow publisher. | 19:09 |
| * mamarley kicks LP. | 19:09 | |
| * clivejo kicks it too | 19:09 | |
| soee | well i must bought clivejo some tasty food and drink for his work :) | 19:10 |
| soee | *buy | 19:10 |
| clivejo | soee: you coming to Ireland? | 19:10 |
| clivejo | I once seen a chart with all these deps laid out visually, but I cant find it, anyone know where it is? | 19:12 |
| soee | clivejo: no but it is not a reason to sposor some stuff when you come to some sprint or conference ;) | 19:13 |
| clivejo | I dunno about that | 19:13 |
| * soee is irritated by GoogleMaps ... :< | 19:15 | |
| clivejo | soee: use OSM! | 19:16 |
| clivejo | mamarley: did I hear somewhere that you work on quassel? | 19:16 |
| mamarley | clivejo: I have made a few contributions. | 19:16 |
| soee | clivejo: so if plasma-integration is fixed the rest packages should be build fine ? | 19:17 |
| clivejo | is there anything newer than v0.12.2 ? | 19:17 |
| clivejo | soee: Id hope so! | 19:17 |
| clivejo | but packaging is never simple! | 19:17 |
| mamarley | clivejo: Yep, 0.12.4. "sudo apt-add-repository ppa:mamarley/quassel" | 19:18 |
| clivejo | for YY? | 19:18 |
| mamarley | For all supported Ubuntu releases. | 19:18 |
| clivejo | ooooo# | 19:18 |
| * soee uses konversation | 19:18 | |
| clivejo | did you apply to maintain the packaging? | 19:19 |
| mamarley | clivejo: Not yet. Too busy doing IT work for my family. | 19:19 |
| clivejo | are you a Kubuntu Member? | 19:20 |
| mamarley | Nope | 19:21 |
| clivejo | Ill have to get valorie on to you! | 19:22 |
| clivejo | soee: what is bothering you about Google Maps? | 19:25 |
| soee | i have fixed it already, i am creating package for one cms and map was not working, solved it already | 19:27 |
| clivejo | soee: seriously use OpenStreetMap :) | 19:27 |
| clivejo | o/ KurousagiMK2 | 19:42 |
| KurousagiMK2 | I'm here | 19:44 |
| clivejo | just waving and saying hello :) | 19:45 |
| KurousagiMK2 | :) | 19:45 |
| clivejo | seems a lot of you are waiting for plasma 5.6.3! | 19:45 |
| KurousagiMK2 | already use | 19:47 |
| clivejo | oh? | 19:47 |
| clivejo | Neon?> | 19:47 |
| KurousagiMK2 | from "Kubuntu Staging Plasma" I work without problems... | 19:50 |
| clivejo | are you on Yakkety? | 19:50 |
| KurousagiMK2 | yes | 19:50 |
| clivejo | ah, nice | 19:50 |
| clivejo | any hiccups? | 19:50 |
| clivejo | bar the kactivities mess :) | 19:51 |
| KurousagiMK2 | plymouth-theme-breeze not work | 19:51 |
| clivejo | yeah, I must look at that | 19:51 |
| clivejo | you dont happen to know what might be wrong? | 19:52 |
| KurousagiMK2 | update-alternatives: error: alternative path /lib/plymouth/themes/breeze/breeze.plymouth doesn't exist | 19:55 |
| clivejo | theres a file /usr/share/plymouth/themes/breeze/breeze.plymouth | 19:56 |
| soee | plasma-workspace is fine now .. weee :) | 19:58 |
| * clivejo pokes the 386 builds | 19:59 | |
| clivejo | ah | 20:06 |
| clivejo | hi DarinMiller | 20:14 |
| clivejo | KurousagiMK2: can you try this package - https://launchpad.net/~kubuntu-ppa/+archive/ubuntu/staging-plasma/+build/9709701 | 20:17 |
| KurousagiMK2 | installed without problems | 20:20 |
| soee | clivejo: ok ill test Xenial now | 20:20 |
| DarinMiller | hi clivejo! | 20:21 |
| soee | clivejo: will be removed: kactivities kde-spectacle libkf5screen6 libkwinglutils7 | 20:22 |
| soee | clivejo: and new one: kactivitymanagerd libkf5screen7 libkwineffects8 libkwinglutils8 libkwinxrenderutils8 pam-kwallet-init plasma-integration | 20:22 |
| soee | is it fine ? | 20:22 |
| soee | kactivities and kde-spectacle worries me | 20:23 |
| soee | apt-cache policy kactivities says i have installed and only availabel version: 5.18.0-0ubuntu1 | 20:25 |
| soee | and kde-spectacle belongs to apps i think, why it wants to remove it ? | 20:26 |
| soee | Frameworks deps ? | 20:26 |
| mamarley | soee: clivejo: It looks like some stuff needs to get recompiled against libkf5screen7, which is what is causing kde-spectacle to get removed. | 20:29 |
| clivejo | kactivities is replaced | 20:30 |
| soee | clivejo: by what? | 20:30 |
| clivejo | kactivitymanagerd | 20:31 |
| soee | dd | 20:32 |
| clivejo | and spectacle is part of apps which Im not allowed to touch | 20:32 |
| soee | clivejo: so other things are fine (the remove and new files list)? | 20:33 |
| clivejo | looks right | 20:34 |
| mamarley | I upgraded and rebooted. Plasmashell won't start, but it won't tell me why. | 20:34 |
| soee | mamarley: krunner works ? | 20:34 |
| mamarley | Yes. | 20:34 |
| soee | so if you try to start plasmashell from cli does it work ? | 20:35 |
| mamarley | It just returns immediately to the prompt with no explanation. | 20:35 |
| mamarley | Also, all the autostart apps I had set up work, so Quassel and Thunderbird did launch. | 20:35 |
| clivejo | mamarley: XX or YY? | 20:36 |
| clivejo | cause plasma-desktop in XX still hasnt been published | 20:37 |
| soee | clivejo: vut this kde-spectacle is the 15.12.3 version - not 16.04 | 20:37 |
| clivejo | soee: yes | 20:37 |
| clivejo | apps 16.04 are WIP as well | 20:37 |
| soee | clivejo: yes and that is why i said 15.12.3 - this is current master and seems like kde-spectacle in this verion has to be updated to work with libkf5screen7 ? | 20:38 |
| soee | plasma-desktop for XX is publish imo | 20:39 |
| soee | ah not, sorry | 20:39 |
| clivejo | Im still seeing a cog next to it | 20:39 |
| mamarley | clivejo: Xenial. However, I rebooted and now Plasma is working again. Odd. | 20:40 |
| mamarley | The KDE startup time was also insanely fast. | 20:40 |
| clivejo | soee: I dont really know,I need help from yofel I think | 20:40 |
| clivejo | lib transition still confuses me | 20:40 |
| mamarley | It looks like kde-spectacle depends on libkf5screen6, but the new plasma brings in libkf5screen7. | 20:41 |
| clivejo | mamarley: correct | 20:41 |
| mamarley | Probably whichever application package kde-spectacle is in needs recompiling. | 20:41 |
| clivejo | yes and spectacle is in the application layer/suite | 20:42 |
| clivejo | which Scarlett is working on | 20:42 |
| clivejo | so I dont want to step on anyones toes | 20:42 |
| mamarley | Not even just a no-change rebuild of the 15.12.x version? | 20:43 |
| clivejo | but rebuild to where? | 20:43 |
| clivejo | that version is in the archive | 20:44 |
| soee | mamarley: i had it once or twice such situation in the past when plasmashell starts after second reboot/login after updates | 20:44 |
| mamarley | touché | 20:44 |
| clivejo | let me see where scarlett is up to | 20:45 |
| mamarley | Anyway, that should clear itself up when Applications 16.04 gets backported, and I can live without kde-spectacle. | 20:45 |
| soee | how can you :D | 20:45 |
| clivejo | I could, in theory, see if 16.04 could be packaged and upload to plasme staging for the time being | 20:45 |
| clivejo | oh that might work | 20:47 |
| clivejo | lets try | 20:47 |
| mamarley | Another minor issue is that the "Folder View" desktop doesn't appear to be available anymore. | 20:47 |
| clivejo | is it supposed to be there? | 20:47 |
| clivejo | ie is it a packaging bug or upstream KDE? | 20:47 |
| mamarley | I guess it is possible that they removed the feature... | 20:48 |
| clivejo | would you mind asking in #plasma? | 20:48 |
| soee | maybe some extra package plasma-widgets-addons ? | 20:48 |
| mamarley | soee: Yeah, let me check that. I seem to remember this happening before at some point too. | 20:49 |
| mamarley | clivejo: The Yakkety VM has "Folder View" as an option for the desktop, so they definitely didn't remove the feature. | 20:57 |
| mamarley | I think my Plasma configuration might be buggered. I am going to wipe it and try again. | 20:57 |
| mamarley | Yep, I wiped the Plasma configuration and now "Folder View" is available again. | 21:00 |
| * soee is upgrading Xenial | 21:01 | |
| IrcsomeBot | <sgclark2> clivejo I am under the weather today so taking it off. If you need to work on an app to make thing work go ahead. | 21:03 |
| acheron88 | Think folderview option grays out when widgets are locked anyway? | 21:04 |
| mamarley | It looks like plasma-pa finally works the way I want it to regarding the default audio device on multiple-output systems. | 21:12 |
| mamarley | The new volume OSD is nice too, but I kind of miss the pop sound that kmix would make. | 21:12 |
| soee | :) | 21:12 |
| mamarley | (This is, of course, a review of Plasma 5.6 in general and not of the packaging. clivejo, you did a great job!) | 21:12 |
| soee | uhm some nvidia driver update is also downloading | 21:12 |
| mamarley | soee: Yep, ricotz added a patch for Linux 4.6 support. | 21:13 |
| soee | ah i nice, 4.6 should land soon in YY | 21:13 |
| clivejo | sgclark: Im not feeling so great today either | 21:13 |
| clivejo | hopefully get a good night sleep tonight | 21:14 |
| clivejo | @sgclark2 where are you up to with apps 16.04 | 21:17 |
| clivejo | I see initial builds on http://qa.kubuntu.co.uk/ppa-status/applications/build_status_16.04.0_yakkety.html | 21:18 |
| IrcsomeBot | <sgclark2> I don't remember sorry. Got distracted by CI | 21:18 |
| soee | ok small problems during upgrade | 21:18 |
| clivejo | soee: ? | 21:19 |
| soee | dpkg: kactivities: dependency problems, deleting by request -- plasma-desktop depends of kactivities; but: -- Package kactivities is marked to be removed. | 21:19 |
| soee | i think this will just pass no? | 21:20 |
| clivejo | do an apt update | 21:20 |
| clivejo | kactivities is not needed any more | 21:20 |
| soee | dpkg: error processing archive /var/cache/apt/archives/plasma-desktop-data_4%3a5.6.3-0ubuntu1~ubuntu16.04~ppa1_all.deb (--unpack): | 21:20 |
| soee | trying to overwrite "/usr/share/locale/pl/LC_MESSAGES/kcm_activities.mo", wich exists also in package kde-l10n-pl 4:15.12.1-0ubuntu1 | 21:21 |
| IrcsomeBot | <sgclark2> Oh pim... wants akonadi but it is there. Very confused. So most of those reds will go away when i figure that out. | 21:22 |
| clivejo | eakk language problems! | 21:22 |
| IrcsomeBot | <sgclark2> Eww | 21:22 |
| clivejo | another thing I dont understand | 21:23 |
| soee | i can force overwrite probably, but will it cause problems in the future ? | 21:23 |
| clivejo | well it needs sorted out | 21:23 |
| clivejo | but which package are they supposed to be in! | 21:23 |
| mamarley | I didn't have any of the file overwrite errors when I upgraded. | 21:24 |
| clivejo | mamarley: are you polish too? | 21:24 |
| * mamarley is 'Murican. | 21:24 | |
| clivejo | local/pl is the Polish language files | 21:25 |
| soee | ill try to reboot and see if desktop start without this one package upgraded | 21:25 |
| soee | if no ill try to force-overwrite | 21:25 |
| clivejo | I dont under why KDE are shipping them in two packages | 21:26 |
| clivejo | unsderstand | 21:26 |
| soee | :) | 21:27 |
| soee | yay Plasma is so much smoother now :) | 21:28 |
| clivejo | does anyone know where the language files should actually be? | 21:30 |
| soee | yofel: ^ | 21:31 |
| clivejo | I thought kde-l10n did all the language magic | 21:31 |
| KurousagiMK2 | from changelog plasma-desktop-data breaks/replaces kde-l10n:all << 4:15.08.3-0ubuntu2~ | 21:34 |
| IrcsomeBot | <sgclark2> Yikes | 21:35 |
| IrcsomeBot | <sgclark2> That seems scary. | 21:35 |
| IrcsomeBot | <sgclark2> Dunno. Wait for yofel | 21:35 |
| KurousagiMK2 | and https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kde-l10n-nl/+bug/1572494 | 21:35 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 1572494 in kde-l10n-nl (Ubuntu) "(xenial) installation of kde-l10n-nl ruins plasma" [Undecided,Confirmed] | 21:35 |
| yofel | clivejo: they're moving stuff out of kde-l10n | 21:36 |
| yofel | needs that custom l10n logic thing in pkg-kde-tools | 21:36 |
| clivejo | yofel: how do we "manage" that? | 21:36 |
| yofel | for proper breaks/replaces | 21:36 |
| * yofel tries to remember where an example is | 21:36 | |
| yofel | clivejo: also regarding spectacle: put a 15.12 rebuild into the plasma ppa | 21:37 |
| clivejo | yofel: I did, it failed | 21:37 |
| yofel | meh | 21:37 |
| clivejo | oh, a 16.04 build failed | 21:37 |
| yofel | well, use 15.12 | 21:37 |
| clivejo | that would need a bump to libkscreen 7 | 21:37 |
| yofel | huh? | 21:38 |
| yofel | what would need a bump? | 21:38 |
| clivejo | the 16.04 packaging | 21:38 |
| clivejo | looks like it needs version 7 | 21:38 |
| yofel | of kscreen? but that's not an app? | 21:38 |
| clivejo | this is the time of day when I cant explain things ! | 21:39 |
| yofel | if you're trying to bump something to use libkf5screen7, then please don't do anything manual | 21:39 |
| yofel | library deps are the job of dh_shlibdeps and are automatic | 21:39 |
| yofel | just do a no-change rebuild and it will pick up 7 by itself | 21:39 |
| soee | :) | 21:40 |
| soee | mamarley: indeed it does nto show FolderView widget for me after upgrade | 21:41 |
| mamarley | soee: If you wipe your Plasma config, the option will come back. | 21:42 |
| soee | but this is some bug no? | 21:43 |
| soee | and what config exactly are we talking about? | 21:43 |
| yofel | clivejo: for the l10n stuff, see baloo - control and rules | 21:46 |
| yofel | and you'll need an l10n build without the files | 21:46 |
| clivejo | holy moley | 21:48 |
| clivejo | cant get my head around this tonight | 21:48 |
| clivejo | for now every uses English as default language! | 21:49 |
| clivejo | no pl for soee :P | 21:49 |
| soee | :D | 21:49 |
| soee | clivejo: will you rebuild kde-spectacle ? | 21:50 |
| clivejo | dunno, Im about bucked for tonight | 21:50 |
| clivejo | I uploaded spectacle 16.04 for YY | 21:51 |
| * clivejo is thinking how to get spectacle 15.12.3 | 21:52 | |
| clivejo | and what to version it so it installs from PPA | 21:52 |
| IrcsomeBot | <sgclark2> Apt-get source spectacle | 21:54 |
| clivejo | now it wont let me upload 15.12 cause 16.04 is newer | 21:59 |
| IrcsomeBot | <sgclark2> Delete 16.04? | 21:59 |
| clivejo | I have | 21:59 |
| clivejo | just take LP ages to "think" about it | 21:59 |
| clivejo | finally, accepted | 22:02 |
| soee | :) | 22:02 |
| clivejo | has anyone tested the breeze-plymouth? | 22:04 |
| soee | how can it be switched ? | 22:04 |
| clivejo | ie apt install plymouth-theme-breeze | 22:04 |
| clivejo | and reboot | 22:05 |
| clivejo | see what it looks like | 22:05 |
| clivejo | or if it works :/ | 22:05 |
| soee | it will remove current one ? | 22:09 |
| soee | ek i can install because of this plasma-desktop-data | 22:10 |
| soee | ok forced-overwrie it | 22:11 |
| soee | clivejo: http://paste.ubuntu.com/16312078/ | 22:14 |
| soee | yofel: ^ do you know how to fix this alternatives path? | 22:15 |
| clivejo | soee: I meant on Yakkety | 22:16 |
| soee | :/ | 22:16 |
| clivejo | trying to figure out which version people are using is so time consuming | 22:16 |
| KurousagiMK2 | plymouth-theme-breeze work. looks not very nice. | 22:17 |
| clivejo | so anyone on YY can you install the plymouth theme and see if it works? | 22:17 |
| soee | KurousagiMK2: you did ^ ? | 22:17 |
| clivejo | is it text based? | 22:18 |
| clivejo | just a progress bar and some text? | 22:18 |
| clivejo | I wasnt impressed with the grub theme | 22:19 |
| clivejo | soee: would you remove that plymouth theme from your system | 22:20 |
| KurousagiMK2 | blue background white text and spinner | 22:20 |
| soee_ | back | 22:21 |
| clivejo | oh thats the same as I had | 22:21 |
| soee_ | On G+ one user asked why we do not package KMyMoney | 22:25 |
| clivejo | I think claydoh said he has it in his PPA | 22:26 |
| soee_ | we have 4.6.6-2 in archie | 22:26 |
| clivejo | soee_: https://launchpad.net/~claydoh/+archive/ubuntu/kmymoney-daily | 22:27 |
| claydoh | soee_: the guy was looking for it, and it does not show up in either ubuntu's software center or in Discover | 22:27 |
| yofel | soee_: alternatives: not offhand | 22:27 |
| yofel | and if it doesn't show up that's missing appstream data | 22:27 |
| soee_ | claydoh: is it similar to https://skrooge.org ? | 22:27 |
| claydoh | yes but I have not used skrooge, kmm has online banking features | 22:28 |
| claydoh | i don't think skrooge does | 22:28 |
| clivejo | soee_: do an apt update and try kde-spectacle now | 22:28 |
| claydoh | kmm has been around forever, skrooge is younger | 22:29 |
| soee_ | kmymoney was updated last time 1 year ago | 22:30 |
| soee_ | clivejo: installed fine | 22:31 |
| clivejo | no errors about libkscreen? | 22:31 |
| claydoh | soee_: yup | 22:32 |
| claydoh | if i were smarter I'd find out how get the kf5 git versions put into a ppa | 22:32 |
| soee_ | clivejo: nope i had an error but it was related to plymouth-theme-breeze i had it installed | 22:33 |
| clivejo | can you remove the theme | 22:33 |
| soee_ | i did | 22:34 |
| clivejo | mustnt have if you still getting the errors | 22:34 |
| soee_ | i did after i had this error ;) | 22:35 |
| soee_ | than i removed kde-spectacle and installed again to be sure it work and it does | 22:35 |
| clivejo | :) | 22:36 |
| soee_ | rofl | 22:43 |
| soee_ | after unlocking desktop i have 'very short' notification ... http://wstaw.org/m/2016/05/09/Screenshot_20160509_004229.png | 22:43 |
| clivejo | what does it say? | 22:44 |
| soee_ | 3 times the same :/ | 22:44 |
| soee_ | ill ask tomorrow on #plasma if it is fixed | 22:44 |
| soee_ | this is probably related to 3 activities i have here | 22:45 |
| soee_ | before there were 3 separate notification with the same message | 22:45 |
| clivejo | soee_: ok can you do an apt update and install plymouth theme again, should be ppa2 now | 22:45 |
| soee_ | now one notification but 3x the same text | 22:45 |
| clivejo | but what does it same? | 22:45 |
| clivejo | say | 22:45 |
| clivejo | I think it might be locale related, cause mine doesnt do that | 22:46 |
| soee_ | it says that if i click and hold on interface element controls will show up etc. | 22:46 |
| soee_ | clivejo: do you have multiple activities? | 22:47 |
| soee_ | clivejo: seems like plymouth works now - installs fine | 22:47 |
| soee_ | i shall reboot. brb | 22:48 |
| soee | hmm the blue grub is not so nice :/ | 22:49 |
| clivejo | LOL | 22:49 |
| soee | but .. | 22:50 |
| clivejo | humm, my activity switcher was working, now its not! | 22:50 |
| soee | one moment | 22:50 |
| clivejo | Error loading QML file: file:///usr/share/plasma/plasmoids/org.kde.plasma.activitybar/contents/ui/main.qml:24:1: module "org.kde.activities" is not installed | 22:51 |
| soee | clivejo: i do love this http://wstaw.org/m/2016/05/09/20160509_004849.jpg :D | 22:52 |
| clivejo | thats the plymouth theme? | 22:52 |
| soee | yes, and feels a bit faster but that might be fault feeling | 22:53 |
| clivejo | I get the text version, its narf | 22:53 |
| soee | :/ | 22:53 |
| soee | clivejo: activities manager works fine here | 22:54 |
| soee | though it shows 2 stopped activities called Desktop (both) | 22:54 |
| clivejo | it was working, now its not :/ | 22:54 |
| soee | and this is strange | 22:54 |
| soee | oh well i removed them .. some ghost activities | 22:55 |
| clivejo | maybe its the switcher on my panel is broken | 22:55 |
| soee | but really Plasma 5.6 is so much smoother | 22:59 |
| soee | i couldn't resist https://plus.google.com/110954078302330754910/posts/iuPbEEreqpu | 23:00 |
| * clivejo shakes head! | 23:02 | |
| clivejo | !info libavcodec-extra | 23:02 |
| ubottu | libavcodec-extra (source: ffmpeg): FFmpeg library with extra codecs (metapackage). In component universe, is extra. Version 7:3.0.1-3ubuntu2 (yakkety), package size 12 kB, installed size 53 kB | 23:02 |
| clivejo | KurousagiMK2: are you seeing this package held back on your YY? | 23:03 |
| soee | uhm muon freezes | 23:08 |
| === N3X15_ is now known as N3X15 | ||
| KurousagiMK2 | yes libavcodec-extra in place http://imgur.com/0PJwWJX | 23:11 |
| clivejo | must be a Ubuntu package that needs fixing | 23:12 |
| clivejo | soee: what part of muon? | 23:13 |
| clivejo | discover still looks messed up in 5.6.3 | 23:14 |
| soee | clivejo: strange, this is pretty old bug. If you try to edit softwere sources it asks fro password and if you enter wrong one if freezes | 23:14 |
| clivejo | soee: which package are you talking about? | 23:15 |
| soee | muon | 23:15 |
| clivejo | The package manager? | 23:15 |
| soee | yes | 23:15 |
| soee | clivejo: discover will have fixed this text rendering outside slides in next update | 23:16 |
| soee | apol push fix for it few days ago | 23:16 |
| clivejo | soee: can you file a bug in LP and assign it to Rick? | 23:16 |
| clivejo | I must have never typed my password wrong cause Ive never seen that! | 23:17 |
| soee | clivejo: here https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/muon/+bugs ? | 23:18 |
| clivejo | yes, that looks right | 23:19 |
| soee | im not sure if and how can i assign it to Rick | 23:24 |
| soee | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/muon/+bug/1579585 | 23:24 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 1579585 in muon (Ubuntu) "muon freezes when we enter wrong password" [Undecided,New] | 23:24 |
| yofel | soee: there's that assign to button | 23:25 |
| yofel | then you're looking for rick-timmis | 23:25 |
| soee | yes but .. | 23:25 |
| soee | You may only assign yourself because you are not affiliated with this project and do not have any team memberships. | 23:26 |
| yofel | oh, I didn't know that's the case.. then I'll do it | 23:26 |
| yofel | requires bug control I guess | 23:26 |
| soee | i am low level wizard :/ | 23:26 |
| yofel | you might be able to subscribe him to the bug instead, that'll send him a mail too | 23:26 |
| yofel | does that work? | 23:27 |
| soee | yofel, clivejo can you reproduce it ? | 23:27 |
| yofel | can't try right now | 23:27 |
| clivejo | Ive sub'ed him to the bug | 23:27 |
| soee | clivejo: thanks | 23:27 |
| clivejo | cant seem to assign him | 23:28 |
| clivejo | soee: I cant get it to crash | 23:28 |
| soee | not crash, freeze :) | 23:29 |
| clivejo | it gives me 3 attempts to enter my password | 23:29 |
| clivejo | the says it cant continue | 23:29 |
| soee | clivejo: when trying to enter Configure Software Sources ? | 23:29 |
| yofel | hm, why was that bug not send to kubuntu-bugs o.O | 23:29 |
| yofel | *sent | 23:29 |
| clivejo | ooooo now that freezes! | 23:29 |
| clivejo | its using KDE su | 23:30 |
| yofel | huh, it's supposed to use the polkit agent | 23:30 |
| clivejo | apparently not for Configure software sources | 23:30 |
| clivejo | looks like its running a 3rd party program | 23:31 |
| yofel | oh, now the mail is there, just lag | 23:31 |
| soee | :) | 23:31 |
| yofel | oh, yeah, not for that | 23:31 |
| clivejo | /usr/bin/software-properties-kde | 23:32 |
| soee | clivejo: can you comment on the bug ? | 23:32 |
| clivejo | if you give it a wrong password it hangs | 23:32 |
| * yofel wants kdesudo back | 23:32 | |
| yofel | that worked -.- | 23:32 |
| ahoneybun | soee you built 5.6? | 23:33 |
| soee | ahoneybun: clivejo did :D | 23:33 |
| ahoneybun | sweet | 23:33 |
| soee | yup | 23:33 |
| soee | oh it is almost 6.5 years since i am on LP -.- | 23:35 |
| clivejo | its almost my first birthday! | 23:36 |
| soee | now lets track down what blocks FolderView widget from showing in widgets manager :/ | 23:36 |
| clivejo | LP birthday party! | 23:36 |
| soee | :D | 23:36 |
| snele | uptime 2 weeks... everything still work great.... great work guys. 16.04 works great for me :) | 23:38 |
| snele | only firefox leaked memory... 1.3gb doing nothing with 1 open tab :) on other hand plasmashell uses only 224 mb after two weeks of uptime which is great :) | 23:40 |
| soee | use Vivaldi :) | 23:41 |
| snele | soee: don't restart it for 2 weeks and I am sure it will leak memory too ;) | 23:42 |
| soee | ;D | 23:42 |
| snele | tho not as bad as ff i beleive :) | 23:42 |
| soee | http://wstaw.org/m/2016/05/09/Screenshot_20160509_014440.png | 23:45 |
| clivejo | Ive given up on FF | 23:47 |
| clivejo | using Opera now :/ | 23:47 |
| soee | wait wait FOlder View works fine here in the edn | 23:50 |
| soee | uhm interesting, the breeze plymouth i see also for a moment when rebooting (when desktop is going down) | 23:54 |
| soee | ok time to get some sleep, nn | 23:59 |
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