[09:06] <allee> Hi, is yakkety daily  iso already good enough for aVM test install or better xenial iso + kubuntu-devel-release-upgrade?
[10:03] <soee_> clivejo: why almost all packages in xenial plasma staging have dependency wait ?
[10:23] <allee> yakkety daily works:  does not reboot after install.  but boots after reset.   So if there a need to test something in yakkety ping me.
[10:26] <soee_> allee: did you tested in VB ?
[10:28] <allee> soee_: just installed from iso and logged in right now..  No further testing of daily iso.    
[10:28] <allee> do staging pkg still need debuging testing?
[10:29] <soee_> i see, i was not able to install it in VB
[10:30] <soee_> allee: i think Frameworks 5.21 and Plasma 5.6.3 are ready for tests in YY but wait for clivejo to confirm that
[10:30] <allee> soee_: 2 days ago I ended up in console.  Todays daily work
[10:33] <allee> soee_:  a that would be cool, mean I can verify bugs and pkgs are recent enough to report them at b.k.o.   Hug to everyone involved! You all do great job!
[10:37] <soee_> seems like all is green: https://launchpad.net/~kubuntu-ppa/+archive/ubuntu/staging-plasma/+packages?field.series_filter=yakkety
[10:37] <mamarley> soee_: I don't think it is ready.  My test VM won't install plasma 5.6.3 due kactivities 5.21 not being available.
[10:37] <soee_> so in Plasma staging ppa you have both Plasma 5.6.3 and Frameworks 5.21
[10:38] <soee_> i see
[10:38] <BluesKaj> Howdy folks
[10:38] <allee> BluesKaj: morning
[10:39] <BluesKaj> 'Morning allee
[10:54] <soee_> Ubuntu 16.10 (Yakkety Yak) Will Soon Be Powered by Linux Kernel 4.6
[10:56] <BluesKaj> soee_, ok , latest Linus release?
[10:58] <allee> soee_:  I hope this will fix the broken VB guest compilation failure in y ;-)
[11:03] <BluesKaj>  qemu-kvm failed here as well
[11:17] <soee_> allee: you are using YY on test machine ?
[11:21] <renee77> hey all
[11:22] <renee77> My laptop stopped working now on tablet does someone now how I can install vim and gcc on it on touch channel no reaction I donot know where to ask else :(
[11:22] <clivejo> mamarley: i think I see what Id done (or didnt do) in plasma-workspace I was pulling in the old kactivities package, but thats dead now and I need to pull in plasma-intregation
[11:23] <mamarley> Ah, OK.
[11:23] <clivejo> whats why it was loooking for kactivities
[11:23] <mamarley> (I wasn't trying to complain; I was just cautioning people against trying to install it and then ending up with a broken system.)
[11:23] <soee_> mamarley: that is the best in testing ;D
[11:24] <allee> soee_:  yakkety run in Virtualbox 5.0.20.  Hosting laptop is xenial
[11:24] <soee_> to end up with broken system and fixing it in the next step ::)
[11:24] <clivejo> mamarley: thats what we need!  Testing Testing Testing
[11:25] <soee_> allee: i tried daily 2 days ago and couldn't go further than 2nd step as "next" button was not working ..
[11:25] <allee> renee77: this is a development channel.  Better try #kubuntu
[11:25] <clivejo> the swap to the new kactivitymanagerd thing is confusing me
[11:25] <renee77> lol I know this is dev :)
[11:25] <renee77> I'll hope to join soon
[11:25] <soee_> allee: renee77 wants to be dev :)
[11:26]  * allee hides 
[11:26] <renee77> ?me smiles @ allee
[11:26] <clivejo> mamarley: for some reason my YY system is working without activities!
[11:26] <allee> soee_: I did a zsync this morning to get a fresh YY is
[11:27] <allee> o
[11:27] <clivejo> did yofel rebuild FW5.21 last night
[11:28] <clivejo> I kinda passed out :/
[11:28] <renee77> I was hoping to get some practice on pad because laptop bleeps anoyingly saying cmos battery needs replacement did replace not wanted results
[11:28] <yofel> I just fixed a bunch of things, should be ~done now
[11:28] <clivejo> ah hi yofel
[11:28]  * yofel passed out a bit later
[11:28] <clivejo> yofel: do you understand this kactivitymanagerd thing?
[11:28] <yofel> I read that it got moved
[11:29] <clivejo> looks like some parts are still in frameworks and some are now in plasma
[11:29] <renee77> So thought should try on ubuntu tablet but do not know which channel for support
[11:29] <clivejo> renee77: I think #ubuntu-touch
[11:30] <renee77> Ok I'll try again :D thank you @clivejo
[11:30] <clivejo> but it is a Sunday, most people are at the sea side licking icecreams
[11:30] <renee77> ahhh :D
[11:30] <renee77> I started with itterations now :D
[11:31]  * clivejo day dreams of nice sunny May weather
[11:31] <renee77> lol me want to assist soon enjoying sun in garden
[11:32] <clivejo> its raining here
[11:32] <clivejo> wet and miserable
[11:32] <renee77> aii here it is 27 degrees nice and sunny 
[11:33] <clivejo> if only
[11:33] <renee77> come over if your fit you can swim over ;)
[11:33] <clivejo> come where?
[11:33] <renee77> nl
[11:34] <clivejo> thats a long swim
[11:34] <renee77> not uK
[11:34] <renee77> srrt 
[11:34] <renee77> srry
[11:34] <clivejo> next island over
[11:34] <renee77> lol
[11:34] <renee77> oops
[11:34] <renee77> ok trying ubuntu touch now
[11:35] <renee77> thanks :D
[11:37] <clivejo> are there any tools to visualise these dependencies?
[11:41] <clivejo> yofel: how do we pull in those new breeze-grub and plymouth theme?
[11:45] <yofel> add them to the seed and remove the existing ones
[11:45] <yofel> (you can't do that)
[11:45] <clivejo> hum
[11:45] <clivejo> Setting up plymouth-theme-breeze (5.6.3-0ubuntu1~ubuntu16.10~ppa12) ...
[11:45] <clivejo> update-alternatives: error: alternative path /lib/plymouth/themes/breeze/breeze.plymouth doesn't exist
[11:46] <clivejo> thats not good
[11:46] <yofel> nope
[11:46] <clivejo> grub seems to work :/
[11:51] <clivejo> mamarley: can you do an apt update and try installing plasma-workspace now
[11:57] <clivejo> humm
[11:57] <clivejo> The following packages have unmet dependencies.
[11:57] <clivejo>  kde-spectacle : Depends: libkf5screen6 (>= 5.1.1) but it is not going to be installed
[12:09] <clivejo> weird
[12:09] <clivejo> Activities are working again
[12:09] <clivejo> but my panel keeps jumping to the wrong screen
[12:09] <clivejo> despite moving it back and the KickOff menu seems to always open on it too
[12:13] <clivejo> eak
[12:13] <clivejo> now thats weird!
[12:13] <clivejo> mamarley: let me know how you get on
[12:17] <yofel> clivejo: the lib needs a transition (i.e. spectacle a no-change-rebuild
[12:17] <yofel> and a dep-bump on the new version
[13:32] <soee> bleh, can someone confirm that we can't remove file son the phone from Dolphin using KDEConnect?
[13:46] <clivejo> yofel: did you just copy FW5.21 YY into plasma-staging?
[13:48] <allee> soee: kdeconnect in xenial or yy?
[13:51] <soee> x
[13:52] <allee> soee: in x I did delete right now a complete audiobook (dir+files) with shift-del
[13:53] <yofel> clivejo: no
[13:53] <soee> :/
[14:03] <allee> which pkg provides the lockscreen?  (I try to figure out why icons of sddm /usr/share/sddm/faces/ and lockscreen are diverent)
[14:04] <clivejo> FW5.22 about to be publish by KDE
[14:04] <clivejo> a new package kwayland
[14:05] <clivejo> is that a move of the plasma/kwayland package to frameworks?
[14:06] <clivejo> or a brand new package to mess up the naming of packages
[14:06] <yofel> that's something you probably want to ask on the packagers ML
[14:07] <allee> which pkg provides the lockscreen? (I try to figure out why icons of sddm /usr/share/sddm/faces/ and lockscreen are different)
[14:09] <clivejo> I think our package is kscreenlocker
[14:09] <clivejo> the source
[14:10] <clivejo> https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kscreenlocker
[14:11] <clivejo> allee: I lost my sddm plasma theme
[14:13] <clivejo> I got it back by "sudo apt install sddm-theme-breeze"
[14:14] <allee> That's installed here too.   But login icons are picked from /usr/share/sddm/faces/
[14:15] <allee> default icons were always different in plasma5 AFAIR
[14:31] <allee> Okay.  login screen:  /usr/share/sddm/faces/default.icon  (PNG) and  lockscreen obviously like file:///usr/share/icons/breeze/actions/24/user-identity.svg
[14:32] <allee> Now PNG != SVG and only oxygen comes with png variants.  breeze only with SVG :-(
[15:08] <soee> wrr 200 MB upload to Youtube = 35 min :/
[15:18] <mamarley> clivejo: It is installing, though it removed the "kactivities" package as part of that.
[15:19] <mamarley> clivejo: It is installing, though it removed the "kactivities" package as part of that.
[15:19] <mamarley> Oops, sorry.
[15:20] <mamarley> sudo systemctl reboot
[15:20] <mamarley> Darnit!
[15:21] <mamarley> clivejo: It installs and starts!
[15:21]  * mamarley can't wait to have it on Xenial. :)
[15:34] <soee> mamarley: almost ready for Xenial http://qa.kubuntu.co.uk/ppa-status/plasma/build_status_5.6.3_xenial.html
[16:06] <soee> me want lab liek that: http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=wild-linux-40&num=1 :_
[16:33] <mamarley> soee: Except not, because plasma-integration is FTBFS: https://launchpad.net/~kubuntu-ppa/+archive/ubuntu/staging-plasma/+build/9706055
[16:34] <mamarley> plasma-workspace build-depends on that, and then a bunch of other stuff build-depends on various packages from plasma-workspace.
[16:34] <mamarley> clivejo: ^Did you see that?
[16:37] <soee> mamarley: what is FTBFS?
[16:38] <mamarley> soee: plasma-integration.  I linked to the build page.
[16:40] <mamarley> clivejo: It looks like it built against kwayland 5.5.5, which appears the be the problem.  A no-change rebuild should make it compile.
[16:40] <mamarley> Also, the build-dep version needs to be bumped, I would think.
[18:54] <clivejo> !info kwayland-dev
[18:59] <soee> :(
[19:00] <mamarley> soee: kwayland 5.6.3 was built successfully in the PPA, but plasma-integration apparently built first and got 5.5.5.
[19:00] <clivejo> yup
[19:00] <clivejo> Im adding a min version to kwayland-dev
[19:00] <clivejo> thanks for the tip off mamarley
[19:00] <mamarley> No problem :)
[19:02] <clivejo> uploaded
[19:02] <mamarley> Thank you!
[19:02] <clivejo> wonder why its not showing on the status page
[19:02] <mamarley> We really appreciate your work. :)
[19:03] <clivejo> Ive pushed it to yakkety too#
[19:03] <clivejo> I should add kwayland-dev to the build deps list
[19:04] <clivejo> so our scripts can bump that
[19:05] <clivejo> humm, it is there
[19:06] <clivejo> wonder why it didnt pick it up
[19:06] <mamarley> The rebuild seems to have worked, anyway.
[19:08] <clivejo> but why isnt plasma-integartion showing on the status page - http://qa.kubuntu.co.uk/ppa-status/plasma/build_status_5.6.3_xenial.html
[19:08] <mamarley> Yeah, that's odd.
[19:09] <clivejo> see if it appears when it gets published
[19:09] <mamarley> Stupid slow publisher.
[19:09]  * mamarley kicks LP.
[19:09]  * clivejo kicks it too
[19:10] <soee> well i must  bought clivejo some tasty food and drink for his work :)
[19:10] <soee> *buy
[19:10] <clivejo> soee: you coming to Ireland?
[19:12] <clivejo> I once seen a chart with all these deps laid out visually, but I cant find it, anyone know where it is?
[19:13] <soee> clivejo: no but it is not a reason to sposor some stuff when you come to some sprint or conference ;)
[19:13] <clivejo> I dunno about that
[19:15]  * soee is irritated by GoogleMaps ... :<
[19:16] <clivejo> soee: use OSM!
[19:16] <clivejo> mamarley: did I hear somewhere that you work on quassel?
[19:16] <mamarley> clivejo: I have made a few contributions.
[19:17] <soee> clivejo: so if plasma-integration is fixed the rest packages should be build fine ?
[19:17] <clivejo> is there anything newer than v0.12.2 ?
[19:17] <clivejo> soee: Id hope so!
[19:17] <clivejo> but packaging is never simple!
[19:18] <mamarley> clivejo: Yep, 0.12.4.  "sudo apt-add-repository ppa:mamarley/quassel"
[19:18] <clivejo> for YY?
[19:18] <mamarley> For all supported Ubuntu releases.
[19:18] <clivejo> ooooo#
[19:18]  * soee uses konversation
[19:19] <clivejo> did you apply to maintain the packaging?
[19:19] <mamarley> clivejo: Not yet.  Too busy doing IT work for my family.
[19:20] <clivejo> are you a Kubuntu Member?
[19:21] <mamarley> Nope
[19:22] <clivejo> Ill have to get valorie on to you!
[19:25] <clivejo> soee: what is bothering you about Google Maps?
[19:27] <soee> i have fixed it already, i am creating package for one cms and map was not working, solved it already
[19:27] <clivejo> soee: seriously use OpenStreetMap :)
[19:42] <clivejo> o/ KurousagiMK2
[19:44] <KurousagiMK2> I'm here
[19:45] <clivejo> just waving and saying hello :)
[19:45] <KurousagiMK2> :)
[19:45] <clivejo> seems a lot of you are waiting for plasma 5.6.3!
[19:47] <KurousagiMK2> already use
[19:47] <clivejo> oh?
[19:47] <clivejo> Neon?>
[19:50] <KurousagiMK2> from "Kubuntu Staging Plasma" I work without problems...
[19:50] <clivejo> are you on Yakkety?
[19:50] <KurousagiMK2> yes
[19:50] <clivejo> ah, nice
[19:50] <clivejo> any hiccups?
[19:51] <clivejo> bar the kactivities mess :)
[19:51] <KurousagiMK2> plymouth-theme-breeze not work
[19:51] <clivejo> yeah, I must look at that
[19:52] <clivejo> you dont happen to know what might be wrong?
[19:55] <KurousagiMK2> update-alternatives: error: alternative path /lib/plymouth/themes/breeze/breeze.plymouth doesn't exist
[19:56] <clivejo> theres a file /usr/share/plymouth/themes/breeze/breeze.plymouth
[19:58] <soee> plasma-workspace is fine now .. weee :)
[19:59]  * clivejo pokes the 386 builds
[20:06] <clivejo> ah
[20:14] <clivejo> hi DarinMiller
[20:17] <clivejo> KurousagiMK2: can you try this package - https://launchpad.net/~kubuntu-ppa/+archive/ubuntu/staging-plasma/+build/9709701
[20:20] <KurousagiMK2> installed without problems
[20:20] <soee> clivejo: ok  ill test Xenial now
[20:21] <DarinMiller> hi clivejo!
[20:22] <soee> clivejo: will be removed: kactivities kde-spectacle libkf5screen6 libkwinglutils7
[20:22] <soee> clivejo: and new one: kactivitymanagerd libkf5screen7 libkwineffects8 libkwinglutils8 libkwinxrenderutils8 pam-kwallet-init plasma-integration
[20:22] <soee> is it fine ?
[20:23] <soee> kactivities and kde-spectacle worries me
[20:25] <soee> apt-cache policy kactivities says i have installed and only availabel version: 5.18.0-0ubuntu1
[20:26] <soee> and kde-spectacle belongs to apps i think, why it wants to remove it ?
[20:26] <soee> Frameworks deps ?
[20:29] <mamarley> soee: clivejo: It looks like some stuff needs to get recompiled against libkf5screen7, which is what is causing kde-spectacle to get removed.
[20:30] <clivejo> kactivities is replaced
[20:30] <soee> clivejo: by what? 
[20:31] <clivejo> kactivitymanagerd
[20:32] <soee> dd
[20:32] <clivejo> and spectacle is part of apps which Im not allowed to touch
[20:33] <soee> clivejo: so other things are fine (the remove and new files list)?
[20:34] <clivejo> looks right
[20:34] <mamarley> I upgraded and rebooted.  Plasmashell won't start, but it won't tell me why.
[20:34] <soee> mamarley: krunner works ?
[20:34] <mamarley> Yes.
[20:35] <soee> so if you try to start plasmashell from cli does it work ?
[20:35] <mamarley> It just returns immediately to the prompt with no explanation.
[20:35] <mamarley> Also, all the autostart apps I had set up work, so Quassel and Thunderbird did launch.
[20:36] <clivejo> mamarley: XX or YY?
[20:37] <clivejo> cause plasma-desktop in XX still hasnt been published
[20:37] <soee> clivejo: vut this kde-spectacle is the 15.12.3 version - not 16.04
[20:37] <clivejo> soee: yes
[20:37] <clivejo> apps 16.04 are WIP as well
[20:38] <soee> clivejo: yes and that is why i said 15.12.3 - this is current master and seems like kde-spectacle in this verion has to be updated to work with libkf5screen7 ?
[20:39] <soee> plasma-desktop for XX is publish imo
[20:39] <soee> ah not, sorry
[20:39] <clivejo> Im still seeing a cog next to it
[20:40] <mamarley> clivejo: Xenial.  However, I rebooted and now Plasma is working again.  Odd.
[20:40] <mamarley> The KDE startup time was also insanely fast.
[20:40] <clivejo> soee: I dont really know,I need help from yofel I think
[20:40] <clivejo> lib transition still confuses me
[20:41] <mamarley> It looks like kde-spectacle depends on libkf5screen6, but the new plasma brings in libkf5screen7.
[20:41] <clivejo> mamarley: correct
[20:41] <mamarley> Probably whichever application package kde-spectacle is in needs recompiling.
[20:42] <clivejo> yes and spectacle is in the application layer/suite
[20:42] <clivejo> which Scarlett is working on
[20:42] <clivejo> so I dont want to step on anyones toes
[20:43] <mamarley> Not even just a no-change rebuild of the 15.12.x version?
[20:43] <clivejo> but rebuild to where?
[20:44] <clivejo> that version is in the archive
[20:44] <soee> mamarley: i had it once or twice such situation in the past when plasmashell starts after second reboot/login after updates
[20:44] <mamarley> touché
[20:45] <clivejo> let me see where scarlett is up to
[20:45] <mamarley> Anyway, that should clear itself up when Applications 16.04 gets backported, and I can live without kde-spectacle.
[20:45] <soee> how can you :D
[20:45] <clivejo> I could, in theory, see if 16.04 could be packaged and upload to plasme staging for the time being
[20:47] <clivejo> oh that might work
[20:47] <clivejo> lets try
[20:47] <mamarley> Another minor issue is that the "Folder View" desktop doesn't appear to be available anymore.
[20:47] <clivejo> is it supposed to be there?
[20:47] <clivejo> ie is it a packaging bug or upstream KDE?
[20:48] <mamarley> I guess it is possible that they removed the feature...
[20:48] <clivejo> would you mind asking in #plasma?
[20:48] <soee> maybe some extra package plasma-widgets-addons ?
[20:49] <mamarley> soee: Yeah, let me check that.  I seem to remember this happening before at some point too.
[20:57] <mamarley> clivejo: The Yakkety VM has "Folder View" as an option for the desktop, so they definitely didn't remove the feature.
[20:57] <mamarley> I think my Plasma configuration might be buggered.  I am going to wipe it and try again.
[21:00] <mamarley> Yep, I wiped the Plasma configuration and now "Folder View" is available again.
[21:01]  * soee is upgrading Xenial
 clivejo I am under the weather today so taking it off. If you need to work on an app to make thing work go ahead.
[21:04] <acheron88> Think folderview option grays out when widgets are locked anyway?
[21:12] <mamarley> It looks like plasma-pa finally works the way I want it to regarding the default audio device on multiple-output systems.
[21:12] <mamarley> The new volume OSD is nice too, but I kind of miss the pop sound that kmix would make.
[21:12] <soee> :)
[21:12] <mamarley> (This is, of course, a review of Plasma 5.6 in general and not of the packaging.  clivejo, you did a great job!)
[21:12] <soee> uhm some nvidia driver update is also downloading
[21:13] <mamarley> soee: Yep, ricotz added a patch for Linux 4.6 support.
[21:13] <soee> ah i nice, 4.6 should land soon in YY 
[21:13] <clivejo> sgclark: Im not feeling so great today either
[21:14] <clivejo> hopefully get a good night sleep tonight
[21:17] <clivejo> @sgclark2 where are you up to with apps 16.04
[21:18] <clivejo> I see initial builds on http://qa.kubuntu.co.uk/ppa-status/applications/build_status_16.04.0_yakkety.html
 I don't remember sorry. Got distracted by CI
[21:18] <soee> ok small problems during upgrade
[21:19] <clivejo> soee: ?
[21:19] <soee> dpkg: kactivities: dependency problems, deleting by request -- plasma-desktop depends of kactivities; but: -- Package kactivities is marked to be removed.
[21:20] <soee> i think this will just pass no?
[21:20] <clivejo> do an apt update
[21:20] <clivejo> kactivities is not needed any more
[21:20] <soee> dpkg: error processing archive /var/cache/apt/archives/plasma-desktop-data_4%3a5.6.3-0ubuntu1~ubuntu16.04~ppa1_all.deb (--unpack):
[21:21] <soee> trying to overwrite "/usr/share/locale/pl/LC_MESSAGES/kcm_activities.mo", wich exists also in package kde-l10n-pl 4:15.12.1-0ubuntu1
 Oh pim... wants akonadi but it is there. Very confused. So most of those reds will go away when i figure that out.
[21:22] <clivejo> eakk language problems!
 Eww
[21:23] <clivejo> another thing I dont understand
[21:23] <soee> i can force overwrite probably, but will it cause problems in the future ?
[21:23] <clivejo> well it needs sorted out
[21:23] <clivejo> but which package are they supposed to be in!
[21:24] <mamarley> I didn't have any of the file overwrite errors when I upgraded.
[21:24] <clivejo> mamarley: are you polish too?
[21:24]  * mamarley is 'Murican.
[21:25] <clivejo> local/pl is the Polish language files
[21:25] <soee> ill try to reboot and see if desktop start without this one package upgraded
[21:25] <soee> if no ill try to force-overwrite
[21:26] <clivejo> I dont under why KDE are shipping them in two packages
[21:26] <clivejo> unsderstand
[21:27] <soee> :)
[21:28] <soee> yay Plasma is so much smoother now :)
[21:30] <clivejo> does anyone know where the language files should actually be?
[21:31] <soee> yofel: ^
[21:31] <clivejo> I thought kde-l10n did all the language magic
[21:34] <KurousagiMK2> from changelog plasma-desktop-data breaks/replaces kde-l10n:all << 4:15.08.3-0ubuntu2~
 Yikes
 That seems scary.
 Dunno. Wait for yofel
[21:35] <KurousagiMK2> and https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kde-l10n-nl/+bug/1572494
[21:36] <yofel> clivejo: they're moving stuff out of kde-l10n
[21:36] <yofel> needs that custom l10n logic thing in pkg-kde-tools
[21:36] <clivejo> yofel: how do we "manage" that?
[21:36] <yofel> for proper breaks/replaces
[21:36]  * yofel tries to remember where an example is
[21:37] <yofel> clivejo: also regarding spectacle: put a 15.12 rebuild into the plasma ppa
[21:37] <clivejo> yofel: I did, it failed
[21:37] <yofel> meh
[21:37] <clivejo> oh, a 16.04 build failed
[21:37] <yofel> well, use 15.12
[21:37] <clivejo> that would need a bump to libkscreen 7
[21:38] <yofel> huh?
[21:38] <yofel> what would need a bump?
[21:38] <clivejo> the 16.04 packaging
[21:38] <clivejo> looks like it needs version 7
[21:38] <yofel> of kscreen? but that's not an app?
[21:39] <clivejo> this is the time of day when I cant explain things !
[21:39] <yofel> if you're trying to bump something to use libkf5screen7, then please don't do anything manual
[21:39] <yofel> library deps are the job of dh_shlibdeps and are automatic
[21:39] <yofel> just do a no-change rebuild and it will pick up 7 by itself
[21:40] <soee> :)
[21:41] <soee> mamarley: indeed it does nto show FolderView widget for me after upgrade
[21:42] <mamarley> soee: If you wipe your Plasma config, the option will come back.
[21:43] <soee> but this is some bug no?
[21:43] <soee> and what config exactly are we talking about?
[21:46] <yofel> clivejo: for the l10n stuff, see baloo - control and rules
[21:46] <yofel> and you'll need an l10n build without the files
[21:48] <clivejo> holy moley
[21:48] <clivejo> cant get my head around this tonight
[21:49] <clivejo> for now every uses English as default language!
[21:49] <clivejo> no pl for soee :P
[21:49] <soee> :D
[21:50] <soee> clivejo: will you rebuild kde-spectacle ?
[21:50] <clivejo> dunno, Im about bucked for tonight
[21:51] <clivejo> I uploaded spectacle 16.04 for YY
[21:52]  * clivejo is thinking how to get spectacle 15.12.3
[21:52] <clivejo> and what to version it so it installs from PPA
 Apt-get source spectacle
[21:59] <clivejo> now it wont let me upload 15.12 cause 16.04 is newer
 Delete 16.04?
[21:59] <clivejo> I have
[21:59] <clivejo> just take LP ages to "think" about it
[22:02] <clivejo> finally, accepted
[22:02] <soee> :)
[22:04] <clivejo> has anyone tested the breeze-plymouth?
[22:04] <soee> how can it be switched ?
[22:04] <clivejo> ie apt install plymouth-theme-breeze
[22:05] <clivejo> and reboot
[22:05] <clivejo> see what it looks like
[22:05] <clivejo> or if it works :/
[22:09] <soee> it will remove current one ?
[22:10] <soee> ek i can install because of this plasma-desktop-data
[22:11] <soee> ok forced-overwrie it
[22:14] <soee> clivejo: http://paste.ubuntu.com/16312078/
[22:15] <soee> yofel: ^ do you know how to fix this alternatives path?
[22:16] <clivejo> soee: I meant on Yakkety
[22:16] <soee> :/
[22:16] <clivejo> trying to figure out which version people are using is so time consuming
[22:17] <KurousagiMK2> plymouth-theme-breeze work. looks not very nice.
[22:17] <clivejo> so anyone on YY can you install the plymouth theme and see if it works?
[22:17] <soee> KurousagiMK2: you did ^ ?
[22:18] <clivejo> is it text based?
[22:18] <clivejo> just a progress bar and some text?
[22:19] <clivejo> I wasnt impressed with the grub theme
[22:20] <clivejo> soee: would you remove that plymouth theme from your system
[22:20] <KurousagiMK2> blue background white text and spinner
[22:21] <soee_> back
[22:21] <clivejo> oh thats the same as I had
[22:25] <soee_> On G+ one user asked why we do not package KMyMoney
[22:26] <clivejo> I think claydoh said he has it in his PPA
[22:26] <soee_> we have 4.6.6-2 in archie
[22:27] <clivejo> soee_: https://launchpad.net/~claydoh/+archive/ubuntu/kmymoney-daily
[22:27] <claydoh> soee_: the guy was looking for it, and it does not show up in either ubuntu's software center or in Discover
[22:27] <yofel> soee_: alternatives: not offhand
[22:27] <yofel> and if it doesn't show up that's missing appstream data
[22:27] <soee_> claydoh: is it similar to https://skrooge.org ?
[22:28] <claydoh> yes but I have not used skrooge, kmm has online banking features
[22:28] <claydoh> i don't think skrooge does
[22:28] <clivejo> soee_: do an apt update and try kde-spectacle now
[22:29] <claydoh> kmm has been around forever, skrooge is younger
[22:30] <soee_> kmymoney was updated last time 1 year ago
[22:31] <soee_> clivejo: installed fine
[22:31] <clivejo> no errors about libkscreen?
[22:32] <claydoh> soee_: yup
[22:32] <claydoh> if i were smarter I'd find out how get the kf5 git versions put into a ppa
[22:33] <soee_> clivejo: nope i had an error but it was related to plymouth-theme-breeze i had it installed
[22:33] <clivejo> can you remove the theme
[22:34] <soee_> i did
[22:34] <clivejo> mustnt have if you still getting the errors
[22:35] <soee_> i did after i had this error ;)
[22:35] <soee_> than i removed kde-spectacle and installed again to be sure it work and it does
[22:36] <clivejo> :)
[22:43] <soee_> rofl
[22:43] <soee_> after unlocking desktop i have 'very short' notification ... http://wstaw.org/m/2016/05/09/Screenshot_20160509_004229.png
[22:44] <clivejo> what does it say?
[22:44] <soee_> 3 times the same :/
[22:44] <soee_> ill ask tomorrow on #plasma if it is fixed
[22:45] <soee_> this is probably related to 3 activities i have here
[22:45] <soee_> before there were 3 separate notification with the same message
[22:45] <clivejo> soee_: ok can you do an apt update and install plymouth theme again, should be ppa2 now
[22:45] <soee_> now one notification but 3x the same text
[22:45] <clivejo> but what does it same?
[22:45] <clivejo> say
[22:46] <clivejo> I think it might be locale related, cause mine doesnt do that
[22:46] <soee_> it says that if i click and hold on interface element controls will show up etc.
[22:47] <soee_> clivejo: do you have multiple activities?
[22:47] <soee_> clivejo: seems like plymouth works now - installs fine
[22:48] <soee_> i shall reboot. brb
[22:49] <soee> hmm the blue grub is not so nice :/
[22:49] <clivejo> LOL
[22:50] <soee> but ..
[22:50] <clivejo> humm, my activity switcher was working, now its not!
[22:50] <soee> one moment
[22:51] <clivejo> Error loading QML file: file:///usr/share/plasma/plasmoids/org.kde.plasma.activitybar/contents/ui/main.qml:24:1: module "org.kde.activities" is not installed
[22:52] <soee> clivejo: i do love this http://wstaw.org/m/2016/05/09/20160509_004849.jpg :D
[22:52] <clivejo> thats the plymouth theme?
[22:53] <soee> yes, and feels a bit faster but that might be fault feeling
[22:53] <clivejo> I get the text version, its narf
[22:53] <soee> :/
[22:54] <soee> clivejo: activities manager works fine here
[22:54] <soee> though it shows 2 stopped activities called Desktop (both)
[22:54] <clivejo> it was working, now its not :/
[22:54] <soee> and this is strange
[22:55] <soee> oh well i removed them .. some ghost activities
[22:55] <clivejo> maybe its the switcher on my panel is broken
[22:59] <soee> but really Plasma 5.6 is so much smoother
[23:00] <soee> i couldn't resist https://plus.google.com/110954078302330754910/posts/iuPbEEreqpu
[23:02]  * clivejo shakes head!
[23:02] <clivejo> !info libavcodec-extra
[23:03] <clivejo> KurousagiMK2: are you seeing this package held back on your YY?
[23:08] <soee> uhm muon freezes
[23:11] <KurousagiMK2> yes libavcodec-extra in place http://imgur.com/0PJwWJX
[23:12] <clivejo> must be a Ubuntu package that needs fixing
[23:13] <clivejo> soee: what part of muon?
[23:14] <clivejo> discover still looks messed up in 5.6.3
[23:14] <soee> clivejo: strange, this is pretty old bug. If you try to edit softwere sources it asks fro password and if you enter wrong one if freezes
[23:15] <clivejo> soee: which package are you talking about?
[23:15] <soee> muon
[23:15] <clivejo> The package manager?
[23:15] <soee> yes
[23:16] <soee> clivejo: discover will have fixed this text rendering outside slides in next update
[23:16] <soee> apol push fix for it few days ago
[23:16] <clivejo> soee: can you file a bug in LP and assign it to Rick?
[23:17] <clivejo> I must have never typed my password wrong cause Ive never seen that!
[23:18] <soee> clivejo: here https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/muon/+bugs ?
[23:19] <clivejo> yes, that looks right
[23:24] <soee> im not sure if and how can i assign it to Rick
[23:24] <soee> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/muon/+bug/1579585
[23:25] <yofel> soee: there's that assign to button
[23:25] <yofel> then you're looking for rick-timmis
[23:25] <soee> yes but ..
[23:26] <soee> You may only assign yourself because you are not affiliated with this project and do not have any team memberships.
[23:26] <yofel> oh, I didn't know that's the case.. then I'll do it
[23:26] <yofel> requires bug control I guess
[23:26] <soee> i am low level wizard :/
[23:26] <yofel> you might be able to subscribe him to the bug instead, that'll send him a mail too
[23:27] <yofel> does that work?
[23:27] <soee> yofel, clivejo can you reproduce it ?
[23:27] <yofel> can't try right now
[23:27] <clivejo> Ive sub'ed him to the bug
[23:27] <soee> clivejo: thanks
[23:28] <clivejo> cant seem to assign him
[23:28] <clivejo> soee: I cant get it to crash
[23:29] <soee> not crash, freeze :)
[23:29] <clivejo> it gives me 3 attempts to enter my password
[23:29] <clivejo> the says it cant continue
[23:29] <soee> clivejo: when trying to enter Configure Software Sources ?
[23:29] <yofel> hm, why was that bug not send to kubuntu-bugs o.O
[23:29] <yofel> *sent
[23:29] <clivejo> ooooo now that freezes!
[23:30] <clivejo> its using KDE su
[23:30] <yofel> huh, it's supposed to use the polkit agent
[23:30] <clivejo> apparently not for Configure software sources
[23:31] <clivejo> looks like its running a 3rd party program
[23:31] <yofel> oh, now the mail is there, just lag
[23:31] <soee> :)
[23:31] <yofel> oh, yeah, not for that
[23:32] <clivejo> /usr/bin/software-properties-kde
[23:32] <soee> clivejo: can you comment on the bug ?
[23:32] <clivejo> if you give it a wrong password it hangs
[23:32]  * yofel wants kdesudo back
[23:32] <yofel> that worked -.-
[23:33] <ahoneybun> soee you built 5.6?
[23:33] <soee> ahoneybun: clivejo did :D
[23:33] <ahoneybun> sweet
[23:33] <soee> yup
[23:35] <soee> oh it is almost 6.5 years since i am on LP -.-
[23:36] <clivejo> its almost my first birthday!
[23:36] <soee> now lets track down what blocks FolderView widget from showing in widgets manager :/
[23:36] <clivejo> LP birthday party!
[23:36] <soee> :D
[23:38] <snele> uptime 2 weeks... everything still work great.... great work guys. 16.04 works great for me :)
[23:40] <snele> only firefox leaked memory... 1.3gb doing nothing with 1 open tab :) on other hand plasmashell uses only 224 mb after two weeks of uptime which is great :)
[23:41] <soee> use Vivaldi :)
[23:42] <snele> soee: don't restart it for 2 weeks and I am sure it will leak memory too ;)
[23:42] <soee> ;D
[23:42] <snele> tho not as bad as ff i beleive :)
[23:45] <soee> http://wstaw.org/m/2016/05/09/Screenshot_20160509_014440.png
[23:47] <clivejo> Ive given up on FF
[23:47] <clivejo> using Opera now :/
[23:50] <soee> wait wait FOlder View works fine here in the edn
[23:54] <soee> uhm interesting, the breeze plymouth i see also for a moment when rebooting (when desktop is going down)
[23:59] <soee> ok time to get some sleep, nn