[06:17] <Kilos> helloooo africa
[11:36] <melodie> hi
[11:36] <melodie> Kilos !!!
[11:36] <melodie> I have to "see" you!
[11:36] <melodie> bonjour tout le monde
[11:36] <Kilos> hi melodie
[11:36] <Kilos> how are you?
[11:36] <melodie> Kilos you might have the so missing Burkina Faso in your lists in a near future!
[11:37] <melodie> this is what I've come to tell you
[11:37] <Kilos> oh my what is happening
[11:37] <melodie> do you have someone in your team who can translate for you?
[11:37] <melodie> from French
[11:37] <Kilos> yes but not today only tomorrow
[11:37] <melodie> well in Toulouse, one hour drive from my home, we have a 4 days Fablabs festival
[11:37] <melodie> yes, no hurry
[11:38] <melodie> you know what Fablabs are, don't you?
[11:38] <Kilos> nope
[11:38] <Kilos> i am just an irc cruiser trying to revive locos that have become inactive
[11:39] <melodie> There are places meant to unleach the people's creativity, and help each other create projects using open source tools
[11:39] <Kilos> ok
 i am just an irc cruiser trying to revive locos that have become inactive || and you can also inspire the creation of new ones, don't you?
[11:40] <Kilos> yes i try
[11:40] <melodie> Well at Ougadougou, they have created a whole building using the ancesters methods of the nubien vault
[11:40] <melodie> to make the Fablab inside
[11:40] <Kilos> cool
[11:40] <melodie> they asked money to the crowd at Kisskissbank and received over 7000 euros to make it
[11:41] <Kilos> great
[11:41] <melodie> now the initiator of the project is at the Fablabs festival in Toulouse, and one of the members of my newly created LUG in my area is a friend of his, and will bring him along in our very 1st grand opening meeting inauguration in 2 weeks !
[11:42] <melodie> and the guy who initiates this fablab is also a Linux user! \o>
[11:42] <melodie> \o/ !
[11:42] <Kilos> yay
[11:42] <melodie> so I'll tell him about your african network and ask him to reach to you and join in!
[11:42] <melodie> That's not all
[11:43] <Kilos> wonderrful ty
[11:43] <melodie> no problem my greatest pleasure :D
[11:43] <melodie> and it's not all
[11:43] <Kilos> you have been a busy lady
[11:43] <Kilos> tell more
[11:43] <melodie> it's probably very hot in your place lately?
[11:43] <Kilos> nope winter is coming fast
[11:44] <melodie> omg
[11:44] <Kilos> what?
[11:45] <Kilos> northern hemisphere is getting summer now
[11:45] <melodie> in Burkina Faso there is also a guy who I know who leads a Spirulina farm, he just returned from there (I've seen him at his home neaby mine, with his wife) and they have 46°C there now.
[11:45] <Kilos> oh my
[11:46] <melodie> I asked him how he bears it, he told me he didn't. then asked him how natives bear it, he sayd, litterally "they don't. They die. Just they don't know what they are dying from"
[11:46] <Kilos> 46°c is hot
[11:47] <melodie> now I see this guy who creates the fablab at Ouagadougou and his co-creators have knowledge about the Nubien vault construction method ( see http://www.lavoutenubienne.org/en ) and this is very important for all countries where it's very hot, because it's ecologic, very strong, and keeps the temperature low when it's hot, and higher when it's cold!
[11:48] <melodie> so when my friend says "they die", he talks about hundreds of people dying and the rest around are helpless :-[
[11:49] <Kilos> yes
[11:50] <melodie> this is where I can give it a hinch : I'll make them both contact each other. My friend has his spirulina farm not far from Ouagadougu, and they have to meat and work together to share their respective knowledge!
[11:50] <Kilos> that link is very slow
[11:50] <melodie> yes, it can be, it's far from you
[11:50] <Kilos> the answer to most problems is in working together
[11:51] <melodie> do you want me to send you the pdf of the Ouagadougou project by mail? Or is there someone in your organisation who you would want me to send it? (someone with more bandwidth credits)
[11:51] <melodie> Kilos and connecting the relevant people in that purpose
[11:52] <Kilos> how big is it melodie
[11:52] <melodie> you know my dear, I'm myself searching for a lasting solution to earn my living, while doing what I love, which is helping finding solutions to issues. And I am aging too, so I'd better find it fast.
[11:52] <melodie> let me check
[11:52] <melodie> it's 1,6 Mio, (1 703 466 octets)
[11:53] <melodie> 7 pages, textes and pictures
[11:53] <Kilos> what is that in megabytes
[11:53] <melodie> This is about 1.7 MB
[11:53] <melodie> almost
[11:53] <Kilos> thats fine love
[11:53] <melodie> so I send it to you by mail?
[11:53] <Kilos> you can mail it to me
[11:53] <melodie> ok I do that right away
[11:54] <Kilos> ty
[11:54] <melodie> please give me your mail address again, my mail client can't find it
[11:54] <Kilos> hehe im much older than you
[11:55] <urbanslug> haha
[11:55] <melodie> Kilos you might be, however I don't want to be stopped by age. Only society will (which in France would make me a pre-retired, which I refuse to be!)
[11:56] <Kilos> do you see it in pm melodie
[12:23] <Kilos> https://framadrop.org/r/keFdj79tAs#kEOzQwyj66NM5iC7kMKzXc1pneuTu+AlTEKAh555v8U=
[12:24] <Kilos> for the french speaking african peeps
[12:24] <Kilos> hi MarwenDo
[12:24] <MarwenDo> hi Kilos
[12:24] <MarwenDo> how are doing ?
[12:24] <Kilos> good ty and you
[12:24] <Kilos> https://framadrop.org/r/keFdj79tAs#kEOzQwyj66NM5iC7kMKzXc1pneuTu+AlTEKAh555v8U=
[12:30] <MarwenDo> i'm fine :)
[12:31] <Kilos> getting hotter by you guys now
[12:31] <Kilos> we are going into winter
[12:33] <melodie> Kilos tell them what it is : a Fablab being created in Burkina Faso, where no LUG is yet known! And the guy who is creating it is in France now, in Toulouse where there is an international Fablab Festival lasting 4 days! And this guy IS a Linux user!
[12:33] <melodie> so all you guys download that file! :D
[12:34] <melodie> and spread it around in all Africa! Yeah! \o/ !
[12:35] <Kilos> MarwenDo melodie is working to make things better for people in africa
[12:35] <MarwenDo> great :)
[12:38] <melodie> Kilos that's to say everywhere, because all have something to teach to others. Such as this Nubian Vault construction technique which is referred to in the pdf document, I've read about it before, and it's just the utmost best thing to know in any country where mud can be used for this purpose.
[12:39] <Kilos> yes
[12:39] <melodie> you can stop after the word "better". ;-)
[12:40] <melodie> "melodie is working to make things better" :D
[12:40] <Kilos> haha
[12:40] <Kilos> you have mud in france as well
[12:40] <melodie> always have
[12:40] <Kilos> hee hee
[12:40] <melodie> yes, in most places
[12:40] <melodie> some have mostly stones and rocs, so they build with stones and rocks, other places have wood, then they use wood
[12:40] <Kilos> i remember from watching old war movies
[12:41] <melodie> aha !
[12:41] <melodie> I'm still writing that mail to you
[12:41] <Kilos> no rush girl im not going anywhere
[12:45] <melodie> how do you say "inauguration" in English? Is that the same word?
[12:45] <Kilos> QA spell inauguration
[12:45] <QA> Kilos: Yup, that's a word all right
[12:46] <Kilos> hha yes same in english melodie
[12:51] <melodie> Kilos thanks my friend.
[12:51] <Kilos> anytime
[14:49] <melodie> wb MarwenDo
[14:49] <MarwenDo> hi melodie
[14:50] <melodie> :)
[14:50] <melodie> which country do you live in?
[14:51] <MarwenDo> I'm from Tunisia :D
[14:51] <MarwenDo> you ?
[14:52] <melodie> south France
[14:52] <MarwenDo> nice to meet you
[14:52] <melodie> South West that is
[14:53] <melodie> nice to meet you too
[16:29] <melodie> I'm wondering if the "no phased updates" thing that it spreading around the web as a feature actually exists and works, I have set it up on one of my machines and I'm not sure I see a difference, and in man apt.conf and in the file "/usr/share/doc/apt/examples/configure-index.gz" which is talked about in the man (man apt.conf) I don't see a clue about it? Here are the posts about phased updates:
[16:29] <melodie> http://askubuntu.com/questions/369722/update-manager-does-not-show-all-updates
[16:29] <melodie> http://www.murraytwins.com/blog/?p=127
[16:29] <melodie> someone has any idea about it?
[17:18] <Kilos> hi CraigZim
[17:18] <Kilos> hows things there
[17:26] <Kilos> melodie those links were for 13.10 i dont think that is valid anymore
[17:36] <melodie> those links where "starting from 13.10" which means we don't know if they are, or not, valid anymore. :)
[17:36] <melodie> it's possible that the docs and man were never updated either.
[17:37] <Kilos> the guys on phills channel should know
[17:42] <CraigZim> Hi Kilos sorry been busy. things here deteriorating
[17:42] <CraigZim> cash had to get
[17:42] <Kilos> everywhere lad
[17:43] <Kilos> the whole world is upside down
[17:49] <CraigZim> no cash money no notes avail money in bank
[17:49] <Kilos> oh my
[18:04] <Kilos> CraigZim how are you guys surviving
[18:07] <CraigZim> still carrying on,we always seem to find a way :)
[18:07] <Kilos> whew
[19:09] <Kilos> night africa, rest well