[10:00] <phillw> present :)
[10:00] <phillw> #startmeeting
[10:00] <meetingology> Meeting started Sun May  8 10:00:22 2016 UTC.  The chair is phillw. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology.
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[10:00] <LinDol> hi :)
[10:00] <phillw> #topic discussion about GNOME
[10:02] <phillw> this will be a bit odd, as the meeting is on a google hangout, but they hope to minute things here for future reference
[10:16] <darkxst> we are just looking at some screenshares of tello and others
[10:17] <jback> o/~
[10:20] <darkxst> #accepted try trello
[10:21] <darkxst> #chair darkxst
[10:22] <darkxst> phillw, meetingology is not listening to me!
[10:26] <phillw> darkxst: it is, just it is silent
[10:27] <darkxst> #subtopic website
[10:34] <darkxst> grvrulz, has a working prototype of the website
[10:34] <darkxst> still needs to do the popups, downloads page
[10:44] <darkxst> #action eliasps to create new launchpad teams
[10:44] <meetingology> ACTION: eliasps to create new launchpad teams
[10:49] <darkxst> #agreed on new team structure, look at using ubuntugnome-wiki for wiki access
[10:50] <darkxst> phillw, did you want to talk about the wiki stuff here on IRC, I think most are in here
[10:52] <phillw> darkxst: I mentioned my thoughts on https://docs.google.com/document/d/13941LvvPxjdeCF_dMUH8FoATVIkwziTzj0kn5qBunnw under the wiki section
[10:52] <phillw> using the 2 areas correctly is the logical choice.
[11:06] <darkxst> phillw, what about moving to a more modern wiki, ahead of ubuntu?
[11:06] <darkxst> your thoughts on that?
[11:07] <darkxst> dokuwiki and mediawiki both have proper localisation support and WYSIWYG editors, which will help greatly from the people that fear Moin Moin
[11:07] <phillw> I'm in favour of mediawiki, but as there is discussion of it and another system to replace moin for Ubuntu, I'd suggest getting involved in that discussion.
[11:08] <darkxst> phillw, its not likely to happen soon, the migration will be a nightmare
[11:08] <phillw> darkxst: well, fedora did it, and posted the script up. As to being a nightmare, quite probably!!!
[11:17] <darkxst> phillw, can you host a mediawiki site?
[11:17] <phillw> yes.
[11:17] <phillw> virt11 (hosting WP such as lubuntu.me) also has mediawiki installed
[11:18] <jback> (If needed, I can provide a VM for Ubuntu Gnome on my colocation server which is with a hosting asociation, Coloclue)
[11:20] <phillw> jback: having additional VM's are always good, excellent to back up each other on :)
[11:20] <jback> I can provide for it with root access if needed.
[11:22] <phillw> jback: I provide them, give them root access and then re-install when they blow them up! But, that's an important part of learning about servers and much better they learn on their VM than on a production machine :)
[11:22] <jback> Hah, that's exactly how things go indeed :)
[11:22] <phillw> jback: you have an invite
[11:23] <jback> phillw: hum?
[11:24] <phillw> DragonEyes should have sent you an invite (it's for #phillw) not really scary :)
[11:24] <darkxst>  #meeting hijacked by the website discussions
[11:25] <phillw> darkxst: trying to control web developers is as much a lost cause as trying to herd cats.
[11:26] <phillw> have them set up a channel / chat and let them get on with it. Throw in the odd coffee and some do-nuts until they have a site up and running.
[11:30] <darkxst> phillw, its the designers
[11:30] <phillw> darkxst: yup... those are the ones to feed coffee and do-nuts to :) ... They are much more productive that way :)
[11:31] <darkxst> phillw, they already have a channel
[11:32] <darkxst> #action phillw to look at hosting us a mediawiki instance
[11:32] <meetingology> ACTION: phillw to look at hosting us a mediawiki instance
[11:32] <darkxst> if we are going to change now is the time
[11:32] <phillw> as good as any!!!
[11:33] <darkxst> and it should offer proper translation support among other things
[11:33] <aldomann_> and membership management or something
[11:33] <aldomann_> to keep trolls away
[11:33] <darkxst> #action grvrulz to look at theming
[11:33] <meetingology> ACTION: grvrulz to look at theming
[11:34] <darkxst> (of mediawiki)
[11:35] <phillw> darkxst: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Wiki_family
[11:35] <phillw> the answer is yes.
[11:38] <phillw> darkxst: share http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu_Trusty to the group, it has the links for a pdf manual and all the translations as part of it.
[11:39] <phillw> and, we can use their code !!
[11:40] <darkxst> sure
[11:46] <jback> I can translate Dutch if we have a proper translation system in place.
[11:56] <phillw> #chair darkxst
[11:56] <meetingology> Current chairs: darkxst phillw
[12:10] <darkxst> #endmeeting
[12:10] <meetingology> Meeting ended Sun May  8 12:10:23 2016 UTC.
[12:10] <meetingology> Minutes:        http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-gnome/2016/ubuntu-gnome.2016-05-08-10.00.moin.txt
[18:57] <ozbrk> hi guys I have a mint to migrate ubuntu gnome from ubuntu whats your opinion is it stable?
[18:57] <ozbrk> are you happy with the ubuntu gnome