kaisoz | Hi there | 08:48 |
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NeKit | is it possible to load Ubuntu Touch for tablets in emulator? | 09:54 |
Tempuserid | Recomendations for a decent irc client for Ubuntu touch? The web client and the m10 browser don't play nicely if you switch away | 10:04 |
swalladge | Tempuse have you tried an irc app? (I had xchat or something similar installed out of the box) | 10:59 |
swalladge | Haven't actually tried it yet though - i tested sshing into a server with weechat running in a tmux session which worked ok, but same prablom with internet cutting as soon as switched away | 11:00 |
swalladge | (Although it kept the connection while in desktop mode whirhwas pretty cool) i hope they add settings to enable that in tablet/phone mode as well | 11:01 |
renee77 | hi is there a way to install g++ on tablet? | 11:13 |
renee77 | and vim only vi is availleble | 11:14 |
renee77 | someone here? | 11:16 |
renee77 | someone not enjoying sun here? | 11:35 |
renee77 | I really would like some help, I am on ubuntu tablet. I know I can use sudo, but I wont receive updates then. And I was wondering it should be possible to use vim and gcc/g++ without loosing updates? | 11:37 |
renee77 | By the way sdcard is only been seen in desktop mode | 11:38 |
brunch875 | I don't think you'll lose updates. At least it didn't happen to me when I started apt-getting stuff | 12:02 |
brunch875 | Man, thunderbird is a pretty great IM client. No wonder why empathy is gone now. | 13:53 |
brunch875 | I wonder if we'll get this on utouch | 13:53 |
brunch875 | cause I really like dekko :| | 13:53 |
Acou_Bass | empathy is gone? since when | 13:53 |
brunch875 | It's not installed by default anymore | 13:53 |
Acou_Bass | aww lame, i liked it hehe | 13:54 |
brunch875 | I like the online-accounts setup | 13:54 |
brunch875 | set stuff system-wide instead of on each application | 13:54 |
Acou_Bass | i do hope ubuntu touch gets a good IM app | 13:54 |
Acou_Bass | thats one thing i loved about sailfishOS, the messaging app supported so many protocols all right there in one app | 13:54 |
brunch875 | Yeah! | 13:54 |
brunch875 | I'd rather have some sort of empathy in ubuntu too | 13:55 |
brunch875 | have telegram in there | 13:55 |
Acou_Bass | the telegram app/scope is great | 13:55 |
Acou_Bass | trouble is, i dont use telegram and no one i know does either XD | 13:55 |
brunch875 | huhu! I use telegram a lot | 13:56 |
brunch875 | strongly dislike whatsapp | 13:56 |
Acou_Bass | i dont know anyone who uses whatsapp either | 13:56 |
Acou_Bass | all my friends use FB chat | 13:56 |
brunch875 | Interesting... | 13:56 |
brunch875 | I hate fb chat since they closed down the apis | 13:56 |
brunch875 | I'd much rather have everyone using gtalk | 13:57 |
Acou_Bass | weirdly, the new API is actually better for 3rd-party clients, it supports history/group chats far better than the old xmpp one | 13:57 |
brunch875 | there's a new api? | 13:57 |
Acou_Bass | yeah, pidgin supports it as do a few others | 13:57 |
brunch875 | ... :o | 13:57 |
brunch875 | I'm surprised! | 13:57 |
brunch875 | Thunderbird is lagging behind, then! | 13:57 |
brunch875 | No support for new facebook API | 13:57 |
Acou_Bass | as i said its not XMPP, but it supports the group chats far better + actually has history | 13:57 |
brunch875 | And you say pidgin supports it? | 13:58 |
brunch875 | I stopped using pidgin with the introduction of empathy back then | 13:58 |
brunch875 | wanted to give it a try and I kinda sticked to it | 13:58 |
Acou_Bass | ahh maybe the facebook thing is still a plugin, but i imagine itll get merged into pidgin at some point if not already | 13:59 |
brunch875 | ¿Do you use pidgin yourself? | 13:59 |
Acou_Bass | nah i use bitlbee hehe | 13:59 |
Acou_Bass | which also has the plugin ;D | 13:59 |
NeKit | how much is Ubuntu Tablet usable for things like simple code editing? | 13:59 |
brunch875 | I don't have the tablet, but it should be pretty decent | 13:59 |
brunch875 | I mean, it comes with vim core installed | 14:00 |
brunch875 | I remember using apt-get for a bunch of stuff | 14:00 |
NeKit | I was trying to find some videos on YouTube, but at most seen GIMP running | 14:00 |
brunch875 | So probably you can also get some plugins like YCM | 14:00 |
NeKit | it can probably run most of desktop apps, or? | 14:03 |
brunch875 | most? | 14:03 |
brunch875 | I'm strongly skeptical about that | 14:04 |
Acou_Bass | ive only used libertine (the XMir container thingy) on nexus 4, and it runs anything i throw at it | 14:04 |
Acou_Bass | obvious things like steam or whatevre aside of course | 14:04 |
brunch875 | is it so? | 14:04 |
brunch875 | I must admit I am impressed then! | 14:04 |
Acou_Bass | it doesnt run everything perfectly, and there are a few annoying bugs | 14:04 |
Acou_Bass | like in libreoffice sometimes the menus up top dont work right | 14:05 |
brunch875 | Have you tried some coding platforms like eclipse? | 14:05 |
brunch875 | does that work? | 14:05 |
Acou_Bass | didnt try it, i dont code xD i did try emacs though | 14:05 |
brunch875 | :D | 14:05 |
Acou_Bass | i couldnt figure out where emacs actually saves its configurations though | 14:05 |
Acou_Bass | so didnt get too far with it | 14:05 |
brunch875 | I can't wait until it arrives on the uphone | 14:05 |
brunch875 | damn, now you're getting my hopes up | 14:06 |
brunch875 | I thought only about 40% the stuff would work | 14:06 |
NeKit | I thought of getting Unity 8 running on mine x86 tablet, but desktop version doesn't seem to work even on laptop | 14:06 |
Acou_Bass | like i sid its not perfect... dont expect miracles, but by the time it actually hits stable, i imagine it should be working pretty well xD | 14:06 |
brunch875 | I also hope that Qt gets stronger | 14:07 |
Acou_Bass | remember youre basicaly just running the 'legacy' app in a container, the only bit thats a bit fiddly is the XMir compatability layer | 14:07 |
brunch875 | my biggest concern is the ARM architecture shutting down all old programs due to dependencies | 14:08 |
Acou_Bass | so theres not much reason to assume things wont work unless theyre fairly heavy on the graphics and so the xmir thing messes it up | 14:08 |
Acou_Bass | that could be an issue i guess hehe, but i thought ubuntu had fairly good ARM support in its repos | 14:08 |
brunch875 | To be honest, as long as I can get opencv to work exactly the same as in my laptop, I'll be all set to go | 14:09 |
brunch875 | + vim with plugins and crap like that | 14:09 |
Acou_Bass | opencv? | 14:09 |
brunch875 | open computer vision | 14:09 |
brunch875 | libraries for programming eyes on the pc :D | 14:09 |
Acou_Bass | does vim run in libertine? or is it ntive | 14:09 |
brunch875 | what's libertine? | 14:10 |
Acou_Bass | the legacy app container thing | 14:10 |
brunch875 | eeeuh I suppose it'll work in both sides | 14:11 |
Acou_Bass | like i said my main problem with libertine is i dont know where the config files get stored, so getting vim plugins working on it might be a bit fiddly | 14:11 |
Acou_Bass | thats why i gave up on emacs withit | 14:11 |
brunch875 | it should all get put in /opt, right? | 14:11 |
brunch875 | either in /opt or at home | 14:11 |
Acou_Bass | no the containers are stored in your /home | 14:11 |
brunch875 | that's where I'd look at | 14:11 |
Acou_Bass | but i dunnno if the containers mount /home/phablet as the homedir for the applications | 14:11 |
Acou_Bass | or if it has its own /home dir inside it | 14:12 |
* brunch875 has no idea | 14:12 | |
Acou_Bass | im probably over-thinking this, but i have no idea either | 14:12 |
Acou_Bass | :P | 14:12 |
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hello_there | Anyone here? 😃 | 18:09 |
brunch875 | Of course! | 18:12 |
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Acou_Bass | heey folks, im trying to use sshfs to mount my ubuntu touch phone easily (my USB port is a bit flaky, so figured this would be easiest) however i keep getting connection reset by peer... anything i can do here? | 19:10 |
popey | Acou_Bass: does it reset when the phone locks and the cpu suspends? | 19:15 |
Acou_Bass | nope it just says connection reset by peer instantly | 19:20 |
Acou_Bass | ahhh wait, its working now - it was a local known_hosts problem :) XD | 19:20 |
Acou_Bass | i should probably go into town this week and find a dodgy dealer who will fix this USB port | 19:21 |
sebsebsebb | at last in here on this tablet. Convergence! | 19:28 |
brunch875 | Jesus | 20:55 |
brunch875 | my utouch just died out of the blue | 20:55 |
brunch875 | won't power on | 20:55 |
brunch875 | no led when plugged in either | 20:55 |
brunch875 | sadface :c | 20:55 |
Acou_Bass | 0,o | 20:55 |
popey | hold power button longer than you think you need to | 20:56 |
brunch875 | but there's no charging led anymore either :S | 20:56 |
brunch875 | what the hell | 20:56 |
brunch875 | popey is the phone necromancer | 20:57 |
popey | what charger you using? | 20:57 |
brunch875 | I tried multiple | 20:57 |
brunch875 | battery is full | 20:57 |
popey | which device? | 20:57 |
brunch875 | E4.5 | 20:57 |
brunch875 | it's back to normal now | 20:57 |
popey | :) | 20:58 |
popey | holding power worked? | 20:58 |
brunch875 | yes | 20:58 |
popey | awesome | 20:58 |
k1l | popey is the phonewhisperer | 20:58 |
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brunch875 | damn, you can't imagine how thankful I am for this | 20:58 |
brunch875 | I was setting up my alarm :P | 20:58 |
brunch875 | I thought it was properly dead since LED gets turned on when plugging whilst powered off | 20:59 |
k1l | but most smartphones do have a "hold power (+ vol up or down) for 30 seconds" firmware feature. | 20:59 |
brunch875 | I suppose it was just in a deep ubuntu slumber | 20:59 |
Acou_Bass | at first i was worried you had the nexus 4 red light of death (which is usually an easy fix but one that everyone bricks it over) | 21:00 |
Acou_Bass | but then i realised you said no LED... ;0 | 21:01 |
brunch875 | yeah, I only now after a year realized uphone displays no lead while charging when awake :p | 21:01 |
brunch875 | lead = led | 21:01 |
Acou_Bass | ;D | 21:02 |
Acou_Bass | id be curious to see what the LED light actually does thats useful, the nexus one is apparently quite active under android | 21:02 |
popey | turns out you can poke the LED in /sys/ somewhere to make it do whatever you want | 21:02 |
brunch875 | that's pretty neat | 21:03 |
brunch875 | I'll play with that tomorrow | 21:03 |
popey | i wrote a script to send random values that makes it disco freakout :) | 21:03 |
Acou_Bass | XD epic | 21:03 |
jfmcarreira | heyyy guys | 21:14 |
jfmcarreira | is it possible to flash ubuntu touch without ubuntu distro? | 21:14 |
Acou_Bass | yeah i did it with arch | 21:15 |
Acou_Bass | ubuntu-device-flash is in the AUR (three times...) as is phablet-tools | 21:18 |
stakewinner00 | Acou_Bass, have you used the ubuntu sdk in arch too? | 21:18 |
Acou_Bass | i havent | 21:18 |
stakewinner00 | i think will be interesting to port the sdk to other distros... | 21:18 |
Acou_Bass | im not much of a coder myself so havent actually tried to do anything besides use the automagic scope builder thingy, which i ran in a chroot hehe | 21:19 |
jfmcarreira | Acou_Bass: what if those tools are not part of the pkg system? | 21:21 |
Acou_Bass | well... i dunno what id do in that situation - luckily for me they were :P | 21:22 |
jfmcarreira | Acou_Bass: :) | 21:22 |
Acou_Bass | but surely a drastic solution such as a container would work? is it possible to pass adb over to a container? | 21:23 |
Acou_Bass | hm, quick curiosity question time - is there any way to tell ubuntu touch what to do when i press my bluetooth headset buttons? for some reason the back/forward buttons seem to turn volume up/down | 21:32 |
mimecar | hi | 21:45 |
Acou_Bass | ahoy | 21:46 |
Gostdog | Hi there | 22:08 |
Gostdog | i've touch on my nexus 7 but there is no gimp or libreoffice installed. How do i do that? | 22:10 |
jfmcarreira | anyone here trying ubuntu touch with multi room? | 22:22 |
jfmcarreira | multirom* | 22:22 |
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swalladge | so if i turn on read/write system to use apt-get i have two questions: 1. can i temporarily disable it to get system/ota updates (or force the updates)? 2. if i break the entire system, is there an official image i can flash back on for factory default? | 23:27 |
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