[08:48] <kaisoz> Hi there
[09:54] <NeKit> is it possible to load Ubuntu Touch for tablets in emulator?
[10:04] <Tempuserid> Recomendations for a decent irc client for Ubuntu touch? The web client and the m10 browser don't play nicely if you switch away
[10:59] <swalladge> Tempuse have you tried an irc app? (I had xchat or something similar installed out of the box)
[11:00] <swalladge> Haven't actually tried it yet though - i tested sshing into a server with weechat running in a tmux session which worked ok, but same prablom with internet cutting as soon as switched away
[11:01] <swalladge> (Although it kept the connection while in desktop mode whirhwas pretty cool) i hope they add settings to enable that in tablet/phone mode as well
[11:13] <renee77> hi is there a way to install g++ on tablet?
[11:14] <renee77> and vim only vi is availleble
[11:16] <renee77> someone here?
[11:35] <renee77> someone not enjoying sun here?
[11:37] <renee77> I really would like some help, I am on ubuntu tablet. I know I can use sudo, but I wont receive updates then. And I was wondering it should be possible to use vim and gcc/g++ without loosing updates?
[11:38] <renee77> By the way sdcard is only been seen in desktop mode
[12:02] <brunch875> I don't think you'll lose updates. At least it didn't happen to me when I started apt-getting stuff
[13:53] <brunch875> Man, thunderbird is a pretty great IM client. No wonder why empathy is gone now.
[13:53] <brunch875> I wonder if we'll get this on utouch
[13:53] <brunch875> cause I really like dekko :|
[13:53] <Acou_Bass> empathy is gone? since when
[13:53] <brunch875> It's not installed by default anymore
[13:54] <Acou_Bass> aww lame, i liked it hehe
[13:54] <brunch875> I like the online-accounts setup
[13:54] <brunch875> set stuff system-wide instead of on each application
[13:54] <Acou_Bass> i do hope ubuntu touch gets a good IM app
[13:54] <Acou_Bass> thats one thing i loved about sailfishOS, the messaging app supported so many protocols all right there in one app
[13:54] <brunch875> Yeah!
[13:55] <brunch875> I'd rather have some sort of empathy in ubuntu too
[13:55] <brunch875> have telegram in there
[13:55] <Acou_Bass> the telegram app/scope is great
[13:55] <Acou_Bass> trouble is, i dont use telegram and no one i know does either XD
[13:56] <brunch875> huhu! I use telegram a lot
[13:56] <brunch875> strongly dislike whatsapp
[13:56] <Acou_Bass> i dont know anyone who uses whatsapp either
[13:56] <Acou_Bass> all my friends use FB chat
[13:56] <brunch875> Interesting...
[13:56] <brunch875> I hate fb chat since they closed down the apis
[13:57] <brunch875> I'd much rather have everyone using gtalk
[13:57] <Acou_Bass> weirdly, the new API is actually better for 3rd-party clients, it supports history/group chats far better than the old xmpp one
[13:57] <brunch875> there's a new api?
[13:57] <Acou_Bass> yeah, pidgin supports it as do a few others
[13:57] <brunch875> ... :o
[13:57] <brunch875> I'm surprised!
[13:57] <brunch875> Thunderbird is lagging behind, then!
[13:57] <brunch875> No support for new facebook API
[13:57] <Acou_Bass> as i said its not XMPP, but it supports the group chats far better + actually has history
[13:58] <brunch875> And you say pidgin supports it?
[13:58] <brunch875> I stopped using pidgin with the introduction of empathy back then
[13:58] <brunch875> wanted to give it a try and I kinda sticked to it
[13:59] <Acou_Bass> ahh maybe the facebook thing is still a plugin, but i imagine itll get merged into pidgin at some point if not already
[13:59] <brunch875> ¿Do you use pidgin yourself?
[13:59] <Acou_Bass> nah i use bitlbee hehe
[13:59] <Acou_Bass> which also has the plugin ;D
[13:59] <NeKit> how much is Ubuntu Tablet usable for things like simple code editing?
[13:59] <brunch875> I don't have the tablet, but it should be pretty decent
[14:00] <brunch875> I mean, it comes with vim core installed
[14:00] <brunch875> I remember using apt-get for a bunch of stuff
[14:00] <NeKit> I was trying to find some videos on YouTube, but at most seen GIMP running
[14:00] <brunch875> So probably you can also get some plugins like YCM
[14:03] <NeKit> it can probably run most of desktop apps, or?
[14:03] <brunch875> most?
[14:04] <brunch875> I'm strongly skeptical about that
[14:04] <Acou_Bass> ive only used libertine (the XMir container thingy) on nexus 4, and it runs anything i throw at it
[14:04] <Acou_Bass> obvious things like steam or whatevre aside of course
[14:04] <brunch875> is it so?
[14:04] <brunch875> I must admit I am impressed then!
[14:04] <Acou_Bass> it doesnt run everything perfectly, and there are a few annoying bugs
[14:05] <Acou_Bass> like in libreoffice sometimes the menus up top dont work right
[14:05] <brunch875> Have you tried some coding platforms like eclipse?
[14:05] <brunch875> does that work?
[14:05] <Acou_Bass> didnt try it, i dont code xD i did try emacs though
[14:05] <brunch875> :D
[14:05] <Acou_Bass> i couldnt figure out where emacs actually saves its configurations though
[14:05] <Acou_Bass> so didnt get too far with it
[14:05] <brunch875> I can't wait until it arrives on the uphone
[14:06] <brunch875> damn, now you're getting my hopes up
[14:06] <brunch875> I thought only about 40% the stuff would work
[14:06] <NeKit> I thought of getting Unity 8 running on mine x86 tablet, but desktop version doesn't seem to work even on laptop
[14:06] <Acou_Bass> like i sid its not perfect... dont expect miracles, but by the time it actually hits stable, i imagine it should be working pretty well xD
[14:07] <brunch875> I also hope that Qt gets stronger
[14:07] <Acou_Bass> remember youre basicaly just running the 'legacy' app in a container, the only bit thats a bit fiddly is the XMir compatability layer
[14:08] <brunch875> my biggest concern is the ARM architecture shutting down all old programs due to dependencies
[14:08] <Acou_Bass> so theres not much reason to assume things wont work unless theyre fairly heavy on the graphics and so the xmir thing messes it up
[14:08] <Acou_Bass> that could be an issue i guess hehe, but i thought ubuntu had fairly good ARM support in its repos
[14:09] <brunch875> To be honest, as long as I can get opencv to work exactly the same as in my laptop, I'll be all set to go
[14:09] <brunch875> + vim with plugins and crap like that
[14:09] <Acou_Bass> opencv?
[14:09] <brunch875> open computer vision
[14:09] <brunch875> libraries for programming eyes on the pc :D
[14:09] <Acou_Bass> does vim run in libertine? or is it ntive
[14:10] <brunch875> what's libertine?
[14:10] <Acou_Bass> the legacy app container thing
[14:11] <brunch875> eeeuh I suppose it'll work in both sides
[14:11] <Acou_Bass> like i said my main problem with libertine is i dont know where the config files get stored, so getting vim plugins working on it might be a bit fiddly
[14:11] <Acou_Bass> thats why i gave up on emacs withit
[14:11] <brunch875> it should all get put in /opt, right?
[14:11] <brunch875> either in /opt or at home
[14:11] <Acou_Bass> no the containers are stored in your /home
[14:11] <brunch875> that's where I'd look at
[14:11] <Acou_Bass> but i dunnno if the containers mount /home/phablet as the homedir for the applications
[14:12] <Acou_Bass> or if it has its own /home dir inside it
[14:12]  * brunch875 has no idea
[14:12] <Acou_Bass> im probably over-thinking this, but i have no idea either
[14:12] <Acou_Bass> :P
[18:09] <hello_there> Anyone here? 😃
[18:12] <brunch875> Of course!
[19:10] <Acou_Bass> heey folks, im trying to use sshfs to mount my ubuntu touch phone easily (my USB port is a bit flaky, so figured this would be easiest) however i keep getting connection reset by peer... anything i can do here?
[19:15] <popey> Acou_Bass: does it reset when the phone locks and the cpu suspends?
[19:20] <Acou_Bass> nope it just says connection reset by peer instantly
[19:20] <Acou_Bass> ahhh wait, its working now - it was a local known_hosts problem :) XD
[19:21] <Acou_Bass> i should probably go into town this week and find a dodgy dealer who will fix this USB port
[19:28] <sebsebsebb> at last in here on this tablet. Convergence!
[20:55] <brunch875> Jesus
[20:55] <brunch875> my utouch just died out of the blue
[20:55] <brunch875> won't power on
[20:55] <brunch875> no led when plugged in either
[20:55] <brunch875> sadface :c
[20:55] <Acou_Bass> 0,o
[20:56] <popey> hold power button longer than you think you need to
[20:56] <brunch875> but there's no charging led anymore either :S
[20:56] <brunch875> what the hell
[20:57] <brunch875> popey is the phone necromancer
[20:57] <popey> what charger you using?
[20:57] <brunch875> I tried multiple
[20:57] <brunch875> battery is full
[20:57] <popey> which device?
[20:57] <brunch875> E4.5
[20:57] <brunch875> it's back to normal now
[20:58] <popey> :)
[20:58] <popey> holding power worked?
[20:58] <brunch875> yes
[20:58] <popey> awesome
[20:58] <k1l> popey is the phonewhisperer
[20:58]  * popey makes a mark on his beadstead
[20:58] <brunch875> damn, you can't imagine how thankful I am for this
[20:58] <brunch875> I was setting up my alarm :P
[20:59] <brunch875> I thought it was properly dead since LED gets turned on when plugging whilst powered off
[20:59] <k1l> but most smartphones do have a "hold power (+ vol up or down) for 30 seconds" firmware feature.
[20:59] <brunch875> I suppose it was just in a deep ubuntu slumber
[21:00] <Acou_Bass> at first i was worried you had the nexus 4 red light of death (which is usually an easy fix but one that everyone bricks it over)
[21:01] <Acou_Bass> but then i realised you said no LED... ;0
[21:01] <brunch875> yeah, I only now after a year realized uphone displays no lead while charging when awake :p
[21:01] <brunch875> lead = led
[21:02] <Acou_Bass> ;D
[21:02] <Acou_Bass> id be curious to see what the LED light actually does thats useful, the nexus one is apparently quite active under android
[21:02] <popey> turns out you can poke the LED in /sys/ somewhere to make it do whatever you want
[21:03] <brunch875> that's pretty neat
[21:03] <brunch875> I'll play with that tomorrow
[21:03] <popey> i wrote a script to send random values that makes it disco freakout :)
[21:03] <Acou_Bass> XD epic
[21:14] <jfmcarreira> heyyy guys
[21:14] <jfmcarreira> is it possible to flash ubuntu touch without ubuntu distro?
[21:15] <Acou_Bass> yeah i did it with arch
[21:18] <Acou_Bass> ubuntu-device-flash is in the AUR (three times...) as is phablet-tools
[21:18] <stakewinner00> Acou_Bass, have you used the ubuntu sdk in arch too?
[21:18] <Acou_Bass> i havent
[21:18] <stakewinner00> i think will be interesting to port the sdk to other distros...
[21:19] <Acou_Bass> im not much of a coder myself so havent actually tried to do anything besides use the automagic scope builder thingy, which i ran in a chroot hehe
[21:21] <jfmcarreira> Acou_Bass: what if those tools are not part of the pkg system?
[21:22] <Acou_Bass> well... i dunno what id do in that situation - luckily for me they were :P
[21:22] <jfmcarreira> Acou_Bass: :)
[21:23] <Acou_Bass> but surely a drastic solution such as a container would work? is it possible to pass adb over to a container?
[21:32] <Acou_Bass> hm, quick curiosity question time - is there any way to tell ubuntu touch what to do when i press my bluetooth headset buttons? for some reason the back/forward buttons seem to turn volume up/down
[21:45] <mimecar> hi
[21:46] <Acou_Bass> ahoy
[22:08] <Gostdog> Hi there
[22:10] <Gostdog> i've touch on my nexus 7 but there is no gimp or libreoffice installed. How do i do that?
[22:22] <jfmcarreira> anyone here trying ubuntu touch with multi room?
[22:22] <jfmcarreira> multirom*
[23:27] <swalladge> so if i turn on read/write system to use apt-get i have two questions: 1. can i temporarily disable it to get system/ota updates (or force the updates)? 2. if i break the entire system, is there an official image i can flash back on for factory default?