[08:48] Hi there [09:54] is it possible to load Ubuntu Touch for tablets in emulator? [10:04] Recomendations for a decent irc client for Ubuntu touch? The web client and the m10 browser don't play nicely if you switch away [10:59] Tempuse have you tried an irc app? (I had xchat or something similar installed out of the box) [11:00] Haven't actually tried it yet though - i tested sshing into a server with weechat running in a tmux session which worked ok, but same prablom with internet cutting as soon as switched away [11:01] (Although it kept the connection while in desktop mode whirhwas pretty cool) i hope they add settings to enable that in tablet/phone mode as well [11:13] hi is there a way to install g++ on tablet? [11:14] and vim only vi is availleble [11:16] someone here? [11:35] someone not enjoying sun here? [11:37] I really would like some help, I am on ubuntu tablet. I know I can use sudo, but I wont receive updates then. And I was wondering it should be possible to use vim and gcc/g++ without loosing updates? [11:38] By the way sdcard is only been seen in desktop mode [12:02] I don't think you'll lose updates. At least it didn't happen to me when I started apt-getting stuff [13:53] Man, thunderbird is a pretty great IM client. No wonder why empathy is gone now. [13:53] I wonder if we'll get this on utouch [13:53] cause I really like dekko :| [13:53] empathy is gone? since when [13:53] It's not installed by default anymore [13:54] aww lame, i liked it hehe [13:54] I like the online-accounts setup [13:54] set stuff system-wide instead of on each application [13:54] i do hope ubuntu touch gets a good IM app [13:54] thats one thing i loved about sailfishOS, the messaging app supported so many protocols all right there in one app [13:54] Yeah! [13:55] I'd rather have some sort of empathy in ubuntu too [13:55] have telegram in there [13:55] the telegram app/scope is great [13:55] trouble is, i dont use telegram and no one i know does either XD [13:56] huhu! I use telegram a lot [13:56] strongly dislike whatsapp [13:56] i dont know anyone who uses whatsapp either [13:56] all my friends use FB chat [13:56] Interesting... [13:56] I hate fb chat since they closed down the apis [13:57] I'd much rather have everyone using gtalk [13:57] weirdly, the new API is actually better for 3rd-party clients, it supports history/group chats far better than the old xmpp one [13:57] there's a new api? [13:57] yeah, pidgin supports it as do a few others [13:57] ... :o [13:57] I'm surprised! [13:57] Thunderbird is lagging behind, then! [13:57] No support for new facebook API [13:57] as i said its not XMPP, but it supports the group chats far better + actually has history [13:58] And you say pidgin supports it? [13:58] I stopped using pidgin with the introduction of empathy back then [13:58] wanted to give it a try and I kinda sticked to it [13:59] ahh maybe the facebook thing is still a plugin, but i imagine itll get merged into pidgin at some point if not already [13:59] ¿Do you use pidgin yourself? [13:59] nah i use bitlbee hehe [13:59] which also has the plugin ;D [13:59] how much is Ubuntu Tablet usable for things like simple code editing? [13:59] I don't have the tablet, but it should be pretty decent [14:00] I mean, it comes with vim core installed [14:00] I remember using apt-get for a bunch of stuff [14:00] I was trying to find some videos on YouTube, but at most seen GIMP running [14:00] So probably you can also get some plugins like YCM [14:03] it can probably run most of desktop apps, or? [14:03] most? [14:04] I'm strongly skeptical about that [14:04] ive only used libertine (the XMir container thingy) on nexus 4, and it runs anything i throw at it [14:04] obvious things like steam or whatevre aside of course [14:04] is it so? [14:04] I must admit I am impressed then! [14:04] it doesnt run everything perfectly, and there are a few annoying bugs [14:05] like in libreoffice sometimes the menus up top dont work right [14:05] Have you tried some coding platforms like eclipse? [14:05] does that work? [14:05] didnt try it, i dont code xD i did try emacs though [14:05] :D [14:05] i couldnt figure out where emacs actually saves its configurations though [14:05] so didnt get too far with it [14:05] I can't wait until it arrives on the uphone [14:06] damn, now you're getting my hopes up [14:06] I thought only about 40% the stuff would work [14:06] I thought of getting Unity 8 running on mine x86 tablet, but desktop version doesn't seem to work even on laptop [14:06] like i sid its not perfect... dont expect miracles, but by the time it actually hits stable, i imagine it should be working pretty well xD [14:07] I also hope that Qt gets stronger [14:07] remember youre basicaly just running the 'legacy' app in a container, the only bit thats a bit fiddly is the XMir compatability layer [14:08] my biggest concern is the ARM architecture shutting down all old programs due to dependencies [14:08] so theres not much reason to assume things wont work unless theyre fairly heavy on the graphics and so the xmir thing messes it up [14:08] that could be an issue i guess hehe, but i thought ubuntu had fairly good ARM support in its repos [14:09] To be honest, as long as I can get opencv to work exactly the same as in my laptop, I'll be all set to go [14:09] + vim with plugins and crap like that [14:09] opencv? [14:09] open computer vision [14:09] libraries for programming eyes on the pc :D [14:09] does vim run in libertine? or is it ntive [14:10] what's libertine? [14:10] the legacy app container thing [14:11] eeeuh I suppose it'll work in both sides [14:11] like i said my main problem with libertine is i dont know where the config files get stored, so getting vim plugins working on it might be a bit fiddly [14:11] thats why i gave up on emacs withit [14:11] it should all get put in /opt, right? [14:11] either in /opt or at home [14:11] no the containers are stored in your /home [14:11] that's where I'd look at [14:11] but i dunnno if the containers mount /home/phablet as the homedir for the applications [14:12] or if it has its own /home dir inside it [14:12] * brunch875 has no idea [14:12] im probably over-thinking this, but i have no idea either [14:12] :P === JanC is now known as Guest17400 === JanC_ is now known as JanC === xiinotulp is now known as plutoniix [18:09] Anyone here? 😃 [18:12] Of course! === chrustler-1299-3 is now known as chrustler [19:10] heey folks, im trying to use sshfs to mount my ubuntu touch phone easily (my USB port is a bit flaky, so figured this would be easiest) however i keep getting connection reset by peer... anything i can do here? [19:15] Acou_Bass: does it reset when the phone locks and the cpu suspends? [19:20] nope it just says connection reset by peer instantly [19:20] ahhh wait, its working now - it was a local known_hosts problem :) XD [19:21] i should probably go into town this week and find a dodgy dealer who will fix this USB port [19:28] at last in here on this tablet. Convergence! [20:55] Jesus [20:55] my utouch just died out of the blue [20:55] won't power on [20:55] no led when plugged in either [20:55] sadface :c [20:55] 0,o [20:56] hold power button longer than you think you need to [20:56] but there's no charging led anymore either :S [20:56] what the hell [20:57] popey is the phone necromancer [20:57] what charger you using? [20:57] I tried multiple [20:57] battery is full [20:57] which device? [20:57] E4.5 [20:57] it's back to normal now [20:58] :) [20:58] holding power worked? [20:58] yes [20:58] awesome [20:58] popey is the phonewhisperer [20:58] * popey makes a mark on his beadstead [20:58] damn, you can't imagine how thankful I am for this [20:58] I was setting up my alarm :P [20:59] I thought it was properly dead since LED gets turned on when plugging whilst powered off [20:59] but most smartphones do have a "hold power (+ vol up or down) for 30 seconds" firmware feature. [20:59] I suppose it was just in a deep ubuntu slumber [21:00] at first i was worried you had the nexus 4 red light of death (which is usually an easy fix but one that everyone bricks it over) [21:01] but then i realised you said no LED... ;0 [21:01] yeah, I only now after a year realized uphone displays no lead while charging when awake :p [21:01] lead = led [21:02] ;D [21:02] id be curious to see what the LED light actually does thats useful, the nexus one is apparently quite active under android [21:02] turns out you can poke the LED in /sys/ somewhere to make it do whatever you want [21:03] that's pretty neat [21:03] I'll play with that tomorrow [21:03] i wrote a script to send random values that makes it disco freakout :) [21:03] XD epic [21:14] heyyy guys [21:14] is it possible to flash ubuntu touch without ubuntu distro? [21:15] yeah i did it with arch [21:18] ubuntu-device-flash is in the AUR (three times...) as is phablet-tools [21:18] Acou_Bass, have you used the ubuntu sdk in arch too? [21:18] i havent [21:18] i think will be interesting to port the sdk to other distros... [21:19] im not much of a coder myself so havent actually tried to do anything besides use the automagic scope builder thingy, which i ran in a chroot hehe [21:21] Acou_Bass: what if those tools are not part of the pkg system? [21:22] well... i dunno what id do in that situation - luckily for me they were :P [21:22] Acou_Bass: :) [21:23] but surely a drastic solution such as a container would work? is it possible to pass adb over to a container? [21:32] hm, quick curiosity question time - is there any way to tell ubuntu touch what to do when i press my bluetooth headset buttons? for some reason the back/forward buttons seem to turn volume up/down [21:45] hi [21:46] ahoy [22:08] Hi there [22:10] i've touch on my nexus 7 but there is no gimp or libreoffice installed. How do i do that? [22:22] anyone here trying ubuntu touch with multi room? [22:22] multirom* === ljp is now known as lpotter [23:27] so if i turn on read/write system to use apt-get i have two questions: 1. can i temporarily disable it to get system/ota updates (or force the updates)? 2. if i break the entire system, is there an official image i can flash back on for factory default?