[06:05] <Kilos> hi nlsthzn magespawn kulelu88 inetpro paddatrapper chesedo- and all other early birds
[06:06] <kulelu88> yo Oom Kilos 
[06:06] <Kilos> koud ne
[06:07] <kulelu88> you must be missing the coast in winter oom
[06:07] <Kilos> definitely
[06:08] <Kilos> 10°c there is worst winter nights, here it is just the beginning
[06:10] <kulelu88> dit wil lekker wees om die heel jaar sommer to wees
[06:10] <Kilos> ja tropiese eiland beter ek dink
[06:11] <Kilos> net tsunamis wat pla
[06:13] <kulelu88> there's no tsunamis in the Indian ocean (that often).
[06:13] <Kilos> lol
[06:14] <Kilos> hurricanes and storms
[06:14] <kulelu88> not on north coast
[06:47] <kulelu88> you saw gremble yesterday? Kilos 
[06:47] <Kilos> yes he was here
[07:01] <magespawn> good morning 
[07:37] <Kilos> i go repair fences and stuff inna cold
[07:37] <Kilos> later all of ya
[08:55] <Langjan> Hi there all the geeks
[08:55] <Langjan> hoe gaan  dit?
[09:38] <paddatrapper> hey almal
[10:10] <Kilos> ai!
[10:10] <Kilos> was  working outside
[10:29] <superfly> good evening
[10:29] <superfly> paddatrapper: did you see the thunderstorm and the hail last night?
[10:30] <paddatrapper> I heard the first bit of it as I was falling asleep
[10:30] <paddatrapper> It was cool!
[10:48] <mazal> Hi
[10:57] <theblazehen> hi mazal. How are you?
[10:57] <Kilos> hi mazal theblazehen 
[11:00] <theblazehen> hi Kilos
[14:30] <Kilos> Yenrabbit hi
[15:05] <paddatrapper> Hey Yenrabbit 
[15:08] <paddatrapper> Anyone had any experience with TLP power management with Ubuntu?
[15:08] <Kilos> what is that
[15:08] <Kilos> tlp
[15:10] <paddatrapper> Power management software mainly to help prolong battery life on laptops
[15:10] <Kilos> whew someone told me about that about a year ago
[15:11] <Kilos> google how to prolong laptop battery life on ubntu
[15:11] <Kilos> ubuntu
[15:11] <paddatrapper> Yeah, I have. Now going to play with it
[15:11] <Kilos> bots are broken so cant ask tem
[15:12] <Kilos> my battery is totally broken so runs only when chargers plugged in
[15:15] <paddatrapper> My battery is still fairly new, but would like to have it last a full day of lectures and general work instead of the 4 hours I'm currently getting
[15:15] <Kilos> sjoe
[15:17] <magespawn> four hours is not too bad in my experience
[15:18] <paddatrapper> I known, just want to see if I can push it longer
[15:19] <magespawn> i see
[15:19] <Kilos> minimise all gui stuff
[15:19] <Kilos> min lighting etc
[15:20] <paddatrapper> Yup. And I have noticed that a more bloated system is more of a battery drain (as expected)
[15:21] <Kilos> you using kde hey?
[15:21] <paddatrapper> Yup, but compared to no desktop enviroment and only i3 as the WM before there is a hit on battery
[15:22] <Kilos> big diffs?
[15:22] <paddatrapper> 15-30 minutes, not too much
[15:23] <Kilos> now how does one go lighter and keep kde
[15:23] <Kilos> i know bento is much lighter but the you use openbox
[15:23] <Kilos> then
[15:24] <Kilos> ai! how to have your cake and eat it
[15:24] <paddatrapper> I'm fine with it as it is, though I'm curious to see what TLP does with it
[15:24] <Kilos> good luck
[15:25] <Kilos> if it works then tell me how when i get a new battery
[15:25] <paddatrapper> Will do
[15:25] <paddatrapper> Apparently it is simply install and forget, but we shall see
[15:25] <Kilos> sjoe
[15:26] <Kilos> maybe inetpro or superfly will know how to save max
[15:28] <Kilos> 4 hours is actually min you know
[15:29] <magespawn> for a working day
[15:31] <paddatrapper> That's running terminal (quite a few), ssh, firefox, kmail
[15:32] <Kilos> you use kmail?
[15:32] <Kilos> and it works?
[15:32] <Kilos> i gave up with it
[15:35] <Yenrabbit> Sup all :) 
[15:35] <Yenrabbit> I played around with some battery saving stuff ages ago. The only problem is that I never bothered to see what works, so I have no idea which methods gave results :p
[15:46] <Kilos> paddatrapper cant you sneak a charger into some classes or are there no power plugs along the walls
[15:47] <paddatrapper> I usually do charge in between when I can, especially when I'm working in the library, but in actual lecture theatres there tend not to be plugs
[15:47] <Kilos> ai!
[15:48] <Kilos> only way then i think is to piggy back an extra battery
[15:48] <Kilos> that will give you 8 hours
[15:48] <Yenrabbit> There is an obvious solution - carry around a car battery and inverter! 
[15:48] <Kilos> lol
[15:48] <theblazehen> Yenrabbit: Exactly what I was thinking
[15:48] <theblazehen> some laptops take 12V in I think :)
[15:48] <theblazehen> Pitty about the DRM in the chargers
[15:49] <Kilos> ya no inverter needed
[15:49] <Kilos> oh i see to run the charger
[15:52] <magespawn> if ypu can work out the correct voltage and supply that the there is not need for the charger
[15:52] <magespawn> s/not/no
[15:53] <magespawn> the two i am currently using take 19v @ 32.a
[15:53] <paddatrapper> Lol perfect!
[15:53] <magespawn> sorry 3.2A
[15:53] <Kilos> ai!
[15:54] <magespawn> and generally it would be a good idea to use a deep cycle battery rather than a normal car battery
[15:55] <theblazehen> magespawn: No, DRM :/ the charger and laptop often need to authenticate each other
[15:56] <magespawn> so put 2 -4 batteries in a special cart with an inverter and take every where, you could then fit solar panels to the top to charge the batteries
[15:56] <Kilos> rofl
[15:56] <Yenrabbit> Only on newer laptops. Also, the lecturers control panel has a few unused outlets. On balance, asking permission to use those might be easier than explaining your charging system to people... 
[15:57] <magespawn> theblazehen: mine are all old, iswitch and play around with the chargers all the time
[15:58] <magespawn> with only the minor problem of lugging kgs of equipment everywhere
[15:59] <magespawn> theblazehen: i have not had a problem even with some of the newer lenovo laptops in company, with using aftermarket chargers
[16:01] <magespawn> on the slightly more practical side i did see some solar battery charges for laptops
[16:02] <magespawn> and portable batteries similar to the ones for cell phones
[16:03] <Kilos> is it not cheaper and easier to get a second laptop battery and swop when one dies
[16:04] <paddatrapper> Where's the fun in that?
[16:04] <Kilos> eeekk you want fun as well
[16:04] <Kilos> sjoe
[16:07] <theblazehen> https://media.blackhat.com/bh-us-11/Miller/BH_US_11_Miller_Battery_Firmware_Public_WP.pdf some more info
[16:53] <magespawn> thanks for that theblazehen 
[17:57] <paddatrapper> theblazehen: That paper is actually quite interesting. Had never really thought about it before
[18:03] <pavlushka> Hello every one!
[18:03] <pavlushka> hi paddatrapper !
[18:03] <pavlushka> how are you?
[18:05] <paddatrapper> Hey pavlushka. I'm goof thanks. You?
[18:05] <Kilos> haha
[18:05] <Kilos> goof
[18:05] <pavlushka> I am good too, thanks!
[18:05] <Kilos> i enjoy it when its not only me making typos
[18:06] <pavlushka> lol
[18:31] <paddatrapper> Lol, only realised now...
[19:09] <Kilos> nght all. sleep tight
[19:09] <Kilos> night as wel
[19:09] <Kilos> l
[19:09] <Kilos> sjoe
[19:32] <gremble> Good evening