=== N3X15_ is now known as N3X15 [00:04] cant get activities to work not at all [00:09] On YY? [00:15] yeah [00:22] hi folks, back from mother's day activities -- wanted to report a successful upgrade to YY on my other "old" laptop [00:22] 16.04 is working like a dream on this one (the new new laptop) === N3X15_ is now known as N3X15 === N3X15_ is now known as N3X15 === N3X15_ is now known as N3X15 === mgraesslin_ is now known as mgraesslin [09:51] !info plasma-desktop xenial [09:51] plasma-desktop (source: plasma-desktop): Tools and widgets for the desktop. In component universe, is optional. Version 4:5.5.5-0ubuntu1 (xenial), package size 1575 kB, installed size 7751 kB [09:52] mm [09:54] soee_ what time is it for you? [09:54] almost midday - 12:00 [09:55] almost 6am here [09:55] :] [09:56] * ahoneybun should try XCOM [09:59] hihi :) [09:59] Plasma 5.6.4 tomorrow i think -.- [09:59] mm [10:00] and probably new Frameworks this week [10:00] the thing with plasma is I would take stable over the newest [10:00] 5.6.3 is stable [10:00] it is tagged as it but is it really [10:01] for me is :) [10:02] mm [10:04] people are reporting mulit monitor issues in 5.5.5 but say it is fixed in 5.6 [10:05] uhm [10:07] still the same issue with TV connected via HDMI is blinking all the time :/ [10:07] I don't see that in 5.5.5 [10:08] maybe it is somehow related to hybrid graphics [10:08] always something related to that [10:20] I think Plasma 5.6.3 boots faster than 5.5.5 [10:57] soee_ mm XCOM has crap framerate as well [10:58] :/ [10:58] playable but not the same as on Windows [11:04] clivejo 5.5.5 has gotten slow on my SSD for some reason [11:04] I think it is the Ubuntu SDK [11:39] Hi folks [11:44] Hi BluesKaj [11:44] wanna test Plasma 5.6.3 on Xenial ? [11:44] hi soee_ , on Yakkety atm [11:45] oh, so you can test it there to :) [11:45] ok , ppa? [11:45] BluesKaj: ppa:kubuntu-ppa/staging-plasma [11:46] it contains both Plasma and Frameworks [11:46] right, that's good [11:47] BluesKaj: there is also optional plymouth theme if you want to try [11:47] the package is called: plymouth-theme-breeze [11:49] ok , 250 some upgrades ...this should be interesting [11:52] BluesKaj: one thing to check after upgrade on YY it to see if Activities works for you, clivejo mentioned that this is broken for him on YY [11:52] but works fine for me on XX [12:01] interesting entry from minutes plasma meeting: jens is working on "design for kube mail" [12:01] so the new mail client in planed ? [12:12] as long as it's better than this "Mail"app in win10 I'm happy [12:13] ok soee_ i haven't rebooted yet, but the activities manager is blank alltho the control module is fine and my activities do switch ok. I have them tied to their own fav apps in the special applications settings as well as the system settings>desktop behavior>acivities settings [12:13] clivejo: ^ [12:14] yofel: will we put 5.6.3 in backports or wait for 5.6.4 ? [12:14] backport when done [12:19] yofel: so we only have problem with this labguage file right? [12:19] and it should be ready for backports ? [12:20] yofel: kwayland is 4:5.6.3 in plasma and is due to be moved to frameworks in 5.22, can we get rid of the epoch? [12:20] only be rename [12:20] like source and all binaries [12:21] soee_: dunno, clive is the expert there [12:21] so it becomes 4:5.22? [12:22] * clivejo chokes [12:22] * clivejo is NO expert! [12:22] you are! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BKorP55Aqvg [12:23] IKR [12:23] my expert advice is to use English :P [12:24] ok , activities are all back to normal here after installing frameworks and plasma 5.63, and plymouth-theme-breeze ...all seems fine so far. BTW I do like the new splash screen, the old one was becoming boring. soee_ :-0 [12:24] :) [12:25] say THANK YOU to clivejo [12:25] an expert! [12:25] thanks clivejo! :-) [12:26] clivejo is Dr. Williamson https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B7MIJP90biM [12:28] ;) [12:29] :P [12:32] clivejo: so for BluesKaj activities work on YY [12:33] yup [12:33] you must have something broken a bit, can you check on fresh account ? [12:34] BluesKaj: btw. i noticed yetserday then when shutting down for a moment teh blue plymouth is also visible [12:34] do you have the same ? [12:35] soee_, sorry i didn't notice , went to the kitchen to get a cofffee when I rebooted [12:35] :D [12:35] I'll check [12:36] yofel: btw [12:36] [11:48] was there some bug in Folder View widget where the widget was rendered to small and not even 1 icon was fully visible ? [12:36] [11:49] i think before 5.5 there was a temporary regression with the default size [12:36] [11:49] not aware of other problems [12:36] still there in 5.5 [12:37] we shoudl check YY daily when 5.6 lands in archive [12:37] we should, but don't hold your breath [12:39] someone knows hwo to resize vda partition from command line [12:40] soee_, no plymouth visiable here at all upon shut down , althon reboot grub has a new look , and the white plasma progress bar appears on a blue screen for a few secs , then after login the new splash screen appears [12:41] those are the changes that I see === pavlushka is now known as pavlushka2 === pavlushka2 is now known as pavlushka === pavlushka is now known as z3ki === z3ki is now known as pavlushka [14:29] soee: Regarding your screen blinking, I think it might not be a KDE issue: https://launchpad.net/bugs/1547619. [14:29] Launchpad bug 1547619 in linux (Ubuntu Xenial) "Intermittent screen blinking with 4k external mini display port with 4.4 kernels" [Medium,In progress] [14:29] Oh wait, he's not here. [14:59] plasma 5.6.3 in staging is at least testable now I assume? [15:00] I am running it right now. [15:02] great :) I assume Xenial or Yakkety are both at the same status for that. [15:02] yup ,it's running nicely so far [15:02] on yakkety here [15:03] yofel: ping [15:03] still on Xenial here, but it looks complete in the ppa [15:03] clivejo: hm? [15:03] 5.22 is available in depot, would it be ok to have a go at staging it? [15:07] go ahead, I made a change for the default changelog entry to add the version to it (like maxy does it) so I would be curious if that works [15:08] Ive moved kwayland-dev over to frameworks in KA and bumped the version to 5.22 locally [15:08] can I push that to KA ? [15:24] sure [15:24] without plasma fully done there's no point in upload fw, so might as well do 5.22 [15:45] todays the first day its been over 20C here and Im sweating like its some kind of heat wave! [15:47] mamarley so the problem with b [15:47] linking screen has source in kernel and I thought maybe 4.6 will fix it but seems not [15:48] :/ [15:50] @Cliff are you staging 5.22? [15:51] I am [15:51] and trying to fix some KCI stuff [15:51] yippeee sonnets fixed [15:53] What is wrong with KCI? [15:54] nothing, Scarlett has done a great job in patching it up [15:54] but the software coming from KDE is constantly changing and we need to package that [15:57] if we can keep up with those changes as they happen, packaging should be as simple as running a script [15:58] hi slhk [15:59] hello world [15:59] hi ovidiuflorin [15:59] dont often see you on IRC these days! [15:59] clivejo: there's a bug in plasma-nm that blocks me from using any VPN. it's uspposed to be fixed in 5.21 or 5.22 [16:00] how can I help to get that in xenial faster? [16:00] Use staging ppa :) [16:00] frameworks 5.21 [16:00] you can try the plasma-staging PPA [16:00] its got FW5.21 and Plasma5.6.3 [16:00] * ovidiuflorin is affraid to use staging on work computer [16:01] oh, then hold off! [16:01] only for testing! [16:01] what's the next step in order to get it into backports? [16:01] just testing? [16:01] then I'll start a VM [16:01] or a dualboot [16:01] I'm using it on the work machine :) [16:02] but you like to live dangeriously!! [16:02] experience has taught me not to do that anymore [16:02] especially when something breaks, and there's nothing I can do to fix it in 5 minutes and the boss is screaming [16:03] so I'm only gonna play on my personal computer [16:03] very wise [16:03] and after weeks of testing, I'll upgrade the work computer [16:03] still on wily at work [16:03] thats the problem with shiney and new! [16:03] where the damn VPN works.... [16:04] so, can I help in any way to get that in backports? [16:04] for xenial? [16:04] if VPN is broken in xenial we need to look into that [16:04] link to bug in one moment [16:04] xenial is our flagship! [16:05] https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=362847 [16:05] if you can cherry pick the fix so it can be added into xenial [16:05] KDE bug 362847 in general "Cannot create any VPN connection" [Grave,Resolved: duplicate] [16:05] actually https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=362141 [16:05] KDE bug 362141 in general "Can not fully create or edit Connection" [Major,Resolved: fixed] [16:05] I've asked about the version [16:06] and they said 5.21 or 5.22 [16:06] I'm not sure about the cherry picking [16:06] because I'm affraid of code dependencies... [16:06] I've tried 3 different VPN connection types [16:06] all fail with the same error [16:07] https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=362141#c2 [16:07] KDE bug 362141 in general "Can not fully create or edit Connection" [Major,Resolved: fixed] [16:07] and from what they say, it's all over the place === ejat is now known as fenris- === fenris- is now known as ejat === ejat is now known as fenris- === fenris- is now known as ejat [16:09] ovidiuflorin: https://quickgit.kde.org/?p=networkmanager-qt.git&a=commitdiff&h=93faf9ec94826c5d753aa090313472800ee41b86 [16:09] https://quickgit.kde.org/?p=networkmanager-qt.git&a=commitdiff&h=93faf9ec94826c5d753aa090313472800ee41b86 [16:09] if thats the fix, theres not much to it! [16:09] ah [16:09] you've beaten me to it [16:09] seems to fit the description [16:10] how does the cherry picking work then? [16:10] make a patch with that diff and test it [16:10] well that is cherry picking [16:10] getting the patch I know how to do [16:10] that piece of code is the cherry that will hopefully fix the code [16:10] the rest is what puzzles me [16:11] add it into the debian packaging and rebuild it [16:11] yofel: would that warrant an SRU? [16:11] SRU? [16:12] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/StableReleaseUpdates [16:12] I have to set-up my packagng env again... new system [16:12] if someone can write up a testcase, yes [16:12] well need to see if the patch works first I guess [16:13] should be fairly easy as I think I suffer from that as well [16:13] * ovidiuflorin is lost again... [16:14] * ovidiuflorin heads over to https://notes.kde.org/p/kubuntu-packaging [16:14] * yofel wonders if we covered patching in there [16:14] * ovidiuflorin is presented with a 502 bad gateway... [16:14] nope! [16:15] patching is another can of worms [16:15] it should really just be a git-format-patch for the source commit, then a quilt import into the package [16:15] the SRU procedure would be the bulk of the work [16:15] * yofel remembers that clivejo wanted to do SRUs lately ^^ [16:17] are you remembering corrently?!? [16:17] of couuurrsseeeeee.... [16:17] LOL [16:18] * ovidiuflorin is going nuts.... [16:18] humm [16:18] Im stuck [16:18] Uploading oxygen-icons5_5.22.0.orig.tar.xz: 227800k/227801k [16:18] for like 5 mins [16:18] -.- [16:18] yeah, that likes to happen [16:19] ofc. it happens with oxygen [16:19] this happened will calligra and I had to use sftp [16:19] morning [16:19] ovidiuflorin: need help...? [16:19] ty yofel [16:19] how do I force sftp [16:20] hi sgclark [16:20] the notes site is down [16:20] sgclark: thanks for all the work you do [16:20] I don't know how to setup my system and what to do [16:20] do you guys have a setting up script? [16:21] for what? [16:21] wasn't that supposed to be docker? [16:21] eventually [16:21] But I get a gateway error too [16:24] Thinks ovidiuflorin wasn't listening in the last packaging party when quilt and patches was discussed! [16:25] no I wasn't [16:25] I was working on the website [16:31] * clivejo starts upload again with sftp [16:34] :) === pavlushka is now known as z4ki === z4ki is now known as pavlushka [17:58] For some reason http://qa.kubuntu.co.uk/ppa-status/frameworks/build_status_5.22.0_yakkety.html is showing a bunch of stuff red despite it having compiled successfully… [17:59] Oh wait, those are 5.21 packages. Hmm, why are they showing up at all then? [18:07] mamarley: because I havent uploaded the 5.22 version yet [18:07] Ah, OK. [18:07] D'oh, I can see where it says that now. Oops. [18:07] failied due to merge markers in the change log I think [18:44] yofel sgclark: the script thinks krunner is part of frameworks, was this moved? [18:45] a part of it is in frameworks at least I think [18:45] afaik it has always een a framework [18:45] been [18:46] oh its in portingaids :/ [18:46] http://download.kde.org/stable/frameworks/5.21/portingAids/ [18:47] how does the script manage that? [18:48] krunner: failed to fetch tarball from depot [19:12] hiho [19:24] Hola [19:25] Kubuntu Dojo [19:25] https://www.kubuntu.org/news/kubuntu-dojo-ninja-developer-training/ [19:25] I've proof read it 3 times, but I always make mistakes [19:31] sick_rimmit: have you seen muon bug we reported yesterday? [19:50] No soee not looked at Bugs since last week [19:51] sick_rimmit: was great to read to read that post & it's a great idea [19:53] ronnoc: Bless you thanks, I hope the punct and grammar was ok [19:53] not my strong point [19:54] yepp. only thing I see on 1st pass that could be cleaned up are the bullet points under "why it rocks" - some have periods after them and some don't :) [19:55] but the message and the fact that this is a real thing are far more important [19:58] I'll fix them now, I have it open in edit [20:00] done [20:03] nice [20:06] Ooo yes and we have the Kubuntu party 3 the Friday before [20:07] https://www.kubuntu.org/news/kubuntu-party-3/ [20:07] They are fun :-D [20:37] sick_rimmit: when I click the dojo G+ link, it says I need an invitation, with a button: request an invitation [20:38] also, reviewed and spiffed a bit the past two stories, the party and the dojo [20:38] thanks for writing them, Rick [20:44] all the cool kids are doing it?!? [20:45] such lies! [20:46] OK, so we're getting a little older, that's more massaging the truth than outright lies [20:46] I think Phil is the youngest ! [20:47] valorie: Oh thanks so much, I try my level best to do em good, but I am more of a talker than a writer [20:48] * soee writes on the wall: 5.6.4 Bugfix Tue 2016-05-10 and hides [20:50] tomorrow? [20:50] seems so https://community.kde.org/Schedules/Plasma_5 [20:51] and after this one month without updates :) [20:51] soee: you should be bug manager! [20:52] Testing and QA Manager [20:52] if the bugs total number will be < 10 than sure :D [20:52] the cool kids and even the old ladies! [20:53] maybe ill jump to YY after we have this all backported to Xenial [20:53] I am always willing to edit stories, blog posts, etc. [20:53] any time [20:53] I really want apps 16.04 [20:53] my YY upgrade went really smoothly [20:53] I cant stand Kontact at the moment [20:53] ;( [20:53] I'm wondering if I should add the landing PPA to it and test that too [20:54] valorie: theres not much has changes in YY KDE wise [20:54] I've not tried kmail/kontact again [20:54] yeah [20:54] but if you can add staging plasma and test Plasma 5.6.3 that would be great [20:55] what is the ppa name? [20:55] ppa:kubuntu-ppa/staging-plasma ? [20:55] the more people we can get on it and testing the better it should get [20:55] https://launchpad.net/~kubuntu-ppa/+archive/ubuntu/staging-plasma/ [20:55] yup [20:56] that will get me the newest frameworks as well? [20:56] ish [20:56] 5.21 [20:56] one red so far in Frameworks 5.22.0 [20:56] wooooo, that sounds great! [20:56] I had to copy in FW5.21 to get Plasma 5.6.3 to build [20:56] so our re-do of the work process is ~nearly done? [20:57] but really hammer and test it [20:57] also install the new breeze plymouth theme [20:57] well, that means *using* that computer, and I so fancy my new one! [20:57] perhaps today I should move this one to YY as well [20:58] and test here [20:58] loving the high-dpi screen [20:58] nice keyboard [20:58] etc [20:58] * clivejo is thinking of customising it to say Kubuntu 16.10 - Plasma 5.6.3 [20:58] Sysinfo for 'valorie-GT60-2PC': Running inside KDE Plasma 5.5.5 on Ubuntu 16.04 LTS (Xenial Xerus) powered by Linux 4.4.0-22-generic, CPU: Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-4810MQ CPU @ 2.80GHz at 3052-3535/3800 MHz, RAM: 23839/24030 MB, Storage: 288/967 GB, 264 procs, 47.08h up [20:58] amazing machine really [20:59] nice :) [20:59] son's "old" gaming laptop which I bought Saturday [20:59] you can compile stuff on it so fast now :D [20:59] you bought it? [20:59] I think he paid almost 2K for it, I paid $350 [20:59] quite a bargain [21:00] Yes, nice machine [21:00] LOL not only do I give my mother my old stuff I have to do customer support for it as well! [21:00] the S key is a bit worn..... [21:00] that's it [21:00] clivejo: rofl [21:00] he's given me many a computer [21:00] but right now he's unemployed [21:00] * soee says again that Plasma 5.6 is soooo smooooth [21:00] yippeeee [21:00] new job perhaps starting soon, but I think his savings is a bit thinner than it was [21:01] but do test 5.6.3 out [21:01] more eyes on it the better :) [21:01] ok i need some light on one thing [21:04] soee: I don't see any FTBFSs. The only red thing is krunner, which is still at 5.21, indicating that 5.22 has not yet been uploaded. [21:06] ok, yy upgrade underway [21:06] this thing is so dang fast I can't believe it [21:06] mamarley: ok [21:06] stop teasing! [21:06] hihi [21:07] mamarley: krunner doesnt seem to be on depot in the correct place [21:07] mamarley: btw. you never had this screen blinking issue ? [21:07] anyone know why this is failing - http://kci.pangea.pub/job/merger_kdelibs4support/13/consoleFull [21:08] and restarting [21:09] soee: Nope, I do not own or administrate any systems with Intel graphics and DisplayPort monitors. [21:09] mamarley: i see [21:26] any word on getting the wiki login loop fixed? [21:27] we NEED documentation [21:28] no point in having it locked away on KDE notes [21:28] https://notes.kde.org/p/kubuntu-packaging [21:58] anyone worked with filterdiff extensively? [21:59] I need to figure out how to make it ignore new files [22:00] though I presume I'll have to patch filterdiff at this point really [22:02] hmmm, xenial was working with my setup, but YY is giving me a fit [22:03] I put the ISOs I'm seeding on a Data partition next to Win10, to give me some space on /home which is on the SSD [22:03] now ktorrent is warning that it isn't mounted [22:04] ah, son is helping via telegram, sorry for the noise [22:08] valorie: just upgrade xenial to yakkety [22:08] sed the source file [22:08] I did that [22:08] it's when I restarted I got the problem [22:08] but I think I've fixed [22:08] what was the problem? [22:10] my data partition is no longer auto-mounting [22:10] I think I fixed in /etc/fstab [22:10] now trying to mount it [22:11] soee: you busy? [22:13] ovidiuflorin: ping [22:13] restarting [22:17] fixxored [22:17] had to restart though [22:20] clivejo: sup? [22:27] can you find the LP bug for the VPN bug ovidiuflorin was talking about earlier [22:29] is sudo apt full-upgrade now working, or do we have to go back to dist-upgrade as https://wiki.ubuntu.com/U%2B1/common-problems says? [22:30] !bug 362847 [22:30] Error: Could not gather data from Launchpad for bug #362847 (https://launchpad.net/bugs/362847). The error has been logged [22:31] hmmm, [22:31] The following packages will be REMOVED: [22:31] kactivities kde-spectacle libkf5screen6 libkwinglutils7 [22:31] I guess I can add them back..... [22:31] https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=362847362847 [22:31] Error: kde bug 362847362847 not found [22:31] https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=362847 [22:31] KDE bug 362847 in general "Cannot create any VPN connection" [Grave,Resolved: duplicate] [22:31] https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=362141 [22:32] KDE bug 362141 in general "Can not fully create or edit Connection" [Major,Resolved: fixed] [22:32] ok, it's upgrading [22:32] * valorie goes to the hardware store [22:32] valorie: kde-spectacle is fixed for xenial [22:32] you are on YY ? [22:32] if so it will be working with apps 16.04 i think (kde-spectacle) [22:33] and kactivities were replaed by different package [22:36] soee: is it not on LP? [22:36] probably no [22:44] humm [22:44] ovidiuflorin: ping [22:48] yofel: ping [22:58] ovidiuflorin @ovidiuflorin yofel: I patched networkmanager-qt with that commit we talked about eariler and uploaded to my Xenial PPA ( https://launchpad.net/~clivejo/+archive/ubuntu/xenial/ ) [22:59] Im not sure it that will just work, maybe plasma-nm needs to be no change rebuild for it to work? [22:59] if you guys can test it and let me know [23:02] in Plasma-discover, what is read or indexed to determine what programs show? quite a few things do not show via search [23:02] claydoh: I think it uses appstream [23:02] yeah but what is it using to filter out what it does NOT show? [23:03] probably if or if not the program has appstream data [23:03] krita doesn't show, but is found using appstreamcli [23:04] for one example [23:04] tho another, kmymoney does not show in either discover or appstreamcli [23:05]