[00:04] <clivejo> cant get activities to work not at all
 On YY?
[00:15] <clivejo> yeah
[00:22] <valorie> hi folks, back from mother's day activities -- wanted to report a successful upgrade to YY on my other "old" laptop
[00:22] <valorie> 16.04 is working like a dream on this one (the new new laptop)
[09:51] <soee_> !info plasma-desktop xenial
[09:52] <ahoneybun> mm
[09:54] <ahoneybun> soee_ what time is it for you?
[09:54] <soee_> almost midday - 12:00
[09:55] <ahoneybun> almost 6am here
[09:55] <soee_> :]
[09:56]  * ahoneybun should try XCOM 
[09:59] <soee_> hihi :)
[09:59] <soee_> Plasma 5.6.4 tomorrow i think -.-
[09:59] <ahoneybun> mm
[10:00] <soee_> and probably new Frameworks this week
[10:00] <ahoneybun> the thing with plasma is I would take stable over the newest
[10:00] <soee_> 5.6.3 is stable 
[10:00] <ahoneybun> it is tagged as it but is it really
[10:01] <soee_> for me is :)
[10:02] <ahoneybun> mm
[10:04] <ahoneybun> people are reporting mulit monitor issues in 5.5.5 but say it is fixed in 5.6
[10:05] <soee_> uhm
[10:07] <soee_> still the same issue with TV connected via HDMI is blinking all the time :/
[10:07] <ahoneybun> I don't see that in 5.5.5
[10:08] <soee_> maybe it is somehow related to hybrid graphics
[10:08] <ahoneybun> always something related to that
[10:20] <clivejo> I think Plasma 5.6.3 boots faster than 5.5.5
[10:57] <ahoneybun> soee_ mm XCOM has crap framerate as well
[10:58] <soee_> :/
[10:58] <ahoneybun> playable but not the same as on Windows
[11:04] <ahoneybun> clivejo 5.5.5 has gotten slow on my SSD for some reason
[11:04] <ahoneybun> I think it is the Ubuntu SDK
[11:39] <BluesKaj> Hi folks
[11:44] <soee_> Hi BluesKaj
[11:44] <soee_> wanna test Plasma 5.6.3 on Xenial ?
[11:44] <BluesKaj> hi soee_ , on Yakkety atm
[11:45] <soee_> oh, so you can test it there to :)
[11:45] <BluesKaj> ok , ppa?
[11:45] <soee_> BluesKaj: ppa:kubuntu-ppa/staging-plasma 
[11:46] <soee_> it contains both Plasma and Frameworks
[11:46] <BluesKaj> right, that's good 
[11:47] <soee_> BluesKaj: there is also optional plymouth theme if you want to try
[11:47] <soee_> the package is called: plymouth-theme-breeze
[11:49] <BluesKaj> ok , 250 some upgrades ...this should be interesting
[11:52] <soee_> BluesKaj: one thing to check after upgrade on YY it to see if Activities works for you, clivejo mentioned that this is broken for  him on YY
[11:52] <soee_> but works fine for me on XX
[12:01] <soee_> interesting entry from minutes plasma meeting: jens is working on  "design for kube mail"
[12:01] <soee_> so the new mail client in planed ?
[12:12] <yofel> as long as it's better than this "Mail"app in win10 I'm happy
[12:13] <BluesKaj> ok soee_ i haven't rebooted yet, but the activities manager is blank alltho the control module is fine and my activities do switch ok. I have them tied to their own fav apps in the special applications settings as well as the system settings>desktop behavior>acivities settings
[12:13] <soee_> clivejo: ^
[12:14] <soee_> yofel: will we put 5.6.3 in backports or wait for 5.6.4 ?
[12:14] <yofel> backport when done
[12:19] <soee_> yofel: so we only have problem with this labguage file right?
[12:19] <soee_> and it should be ready for backports ?
[12:20] <clivejo> yofel: kwayland is 4:5.6.3 in plasma and is due to be moved to frameworks in 5.22, can we get rid of the epoch?
[12:20] <yofel> only be rename
[12:20] <yofel> like source and all binaries
[12:21] <yofel> soee_: dunno, clive is the expert there
[12:21] <clivejo> so it becomes 4:5.22?
[12:22]  * clivejo chokes
[12:22]  * clivejo is NO expert!
[12:22] <soee_> you are! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BKorP55Aqvg
[12:23] <yofel> IKR
[12:23] <clivejo> my expert advice is to use English :P
[12:24] <BluesKaj> ok , activities are all back to normal here after installing frameworks and plasma 5.63, and plymouth-theme-breeze ...all seems fine so far. BTW I do like the new splash screen, the old one was becoming boring. soee_ :-0
[12:24] <soee_> :)
[12:25] <soee_> say THANK YOU to clivejo
[12:25] <soee_> an expert!
[12:25] <BluesKaj> thanks clivejo!  :-)
[12:26] <yofel> clivejo is Dr. Williamson https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B7MIJP90biM
[12:28] <soee_> ;)
[12:29] <clivejo> :P
[12:32] <soee_> clivejo: so for BluesKaj activities work on YY
[12:33] <BluesKaj> yup
[12:33] <soee_> you must have something broken a bit, can you check on fresh account ?
[12:34] <soee_> BluesKaj: btw. i noticed yetserday then when shutting down for a moment teh blue plymouth is also visible
[12:34] <soee_> do you have the same ?
[12:35] <BluesKaj> soee_, sorry i didn't notice , went to the kitchen to get a cofffee when I rebooted
[12:35] <soee_> :D
[12:35] <BluesKaj> I'll check 
[12:36] <soee_> yofel: btw
[12:36] <soee_> [11:48] <soee_> was there some bug in Folder View widget where the widget was rendered to small and not even 1 icon was fully visible ?
[12:36] <soee_> [11:49] <Sho_> i think before 5.5 there was a temporary regression with the default size
[12:36] <soee_> [11:49] <Sho_> not aware of other problems
[12:36] <yofel> still there in 5.5
[12:37] <soee_> we shoudl check YY daily when 5.6 lands in archive
[12:37] <yofel> we should, but don't hold your breath
[12:39] <soee_> someone knows hwo to resize vda partition from command line
[12:40] <BluesKaj> soee_, no plymouth visiable here at all upon shut down , althon reboot grub has a new look , and the white plasma progress bar appears on a blue screen for a few secs , then after login the new splash screen appears 
[12:41] <BluesKaj> those are the changes that I see
[14:29] <mamarley> soee: Regarding your screen blinking, I think it might not be a KDE issue: https://launchpad.net/bugs/1547619.
[14:29] <mamarley> Oh wait, he's not here.
[14:59] <acheron88> plasma 5.6.3 in staging is at least testable now I assume?
[15:00] <mamarley> I am running it right now.
[15:02] <acheron88> great :) I assume Xenial or Yakkety are both at the same status for that. 
[15:02] <BluesKaj> yup ,it's running nicely so far 
[15:02] <BluesKaj> on yakkety here
[15:03] <clivejo> yofel: ping
[15:03] <acheron88> still on Xenial here, but it looks complete in the ppa
[15:03] <yofel> clivejo: hm?
[15:03] <clivejo> 5.22 is available in depot, would it be ok to have a go at staging it?
[15:07] <yofel> go ahead, I made a change for the default changelog entry to add the version to it (like maxy does it) so I would be curious if that works
[15:08] <clivejo> Ive moved kwayland-dev over to frameworks in KA and bumped the version to 5.22 locally
[15:08] <clivejo> can I push that to KA ?
[15:24] <yofel> sure
[15:24] <yofel> without plasma fully done there's no point in upload fw, so might as well do 5.22
[15:45] <clivejo> todays the first day its been over 20C here and Im sweating like its some kind of heat wave!
 mamarley so the problem with b
 linking screen has source in kernel and I thought maybe 4.6 will fix it but seems not
 :/
 @Cliff are you staging 5.22?
[15:51] <clivejo> I am
[15:51] <clivejo> and trying to fix some KCI stuff
[15:51] <clivejo> yippeee sonnets fixed
 What is wrong with KCI?
[15:54] <clivejo> nothing, Scarlett has done a great job in patching it up
[15:54] <clivejo> but the software coming from KDE is constantly changing and we need to package that
[15:57] <clivejo> if we can keep up with those changes as they happen, packaging should be as simple as running a script
[15:58] <clivejo> hi slhk
[15:59] <ovidiuflorin> hello world
[15:59] <clivejo> hi ovidiuflorin
[15:59] <clivejo> dont often see you on IRC these days!
[15:59] <ovidiuflorin> clivejo: there's a bug in plasma-nm that blocks me from using any VPN. it's uspposed to be fixed in 5.21 or 5.22
[16:00] <ovidiuflorin> how can I help to get that in xenial faster?
 Use staging ppa :)
[16:00] <ovidiuflorin> frameworks 5.21
[16:00] <clivejo> you can try the plasma-staging PPA
[16:00] <clivejo> its got FW5.21 and Plasma5.6.3
[16:00]  * ovidiuflorin is affraid to use staging on work computer
[16:01] <clivejo> oh, then hold off!
[16:01] <clivejo> only for testing!
[16:01] <ovidiuflorin> what's the next step in order to get it into backports?
[16:01] <ovidiuflorin> just testing?
[16:01] <ovidiuflorin> then I'll start a VM
[16:01] <ovidiuflorin> or a dualboot
 I'm using it on the work machine :)
[16:02] <clivejo> but you like to live dangeriously!!
[16:02] <ovidiuflorin> experience has taught me not to do that anymore
[16:02] <ovidiuflorin> especially when something breaks, and there's nothing I can do to fix it in 5 minutes and the boss is screaming
[16:03] <ovidiuflorin> so I'm only gonna play on my personal computer
[16:03] <clivejo> very wise
[16:03] <ovidiuflorin> and after weeks of testing, I'll upgrade the work computer
[16:03] <ovidiuflorin> still on wily at work
[16:03] <clivejo> thats the problem with shiney and new!
[16:03] <ovidiuflorin> where the damn VPN works....
[16:04] <ovidiuflorin> so, can I help in any way to get that in backports?
[16:04] <ovidiuflorin> for xenial?
[16:04] <clivejo> if VPN is broken in xenial we need to look into that
[16:04] <ovidiuflorin> link to bug in one moment
[16:04] <clivejo> xenial is our flagship!
[16:05] <ovidiuflorin> https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=362847
[16:05] <clivejo> if you can cherry pick the fix so it can be added into xenial
[16:05] <ovidiuflorin> actually https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=362141
[16:05] <ovidiuflorin> I've asked about the version
[16:06] <ovidiuflorin> and they said 5.21 or 5.22
[16:06] <ovidiuflorin> I'm not sure about the cherry picking
[16:06] <ovidiuflorin> because I'm affraid of code dependencies...
[16:06] <ovidiuflorin> I've tried 3 different VPN connection types
[16:06] <ovidiuflorin> all fail with the same error
[16:07] <clivejo> https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=362141#c2
[16:07] <ovidiuflorin> and from what they say, it's all over the place
[16:09] <clivejo> ovidiuflorin: https://quickgit.kde.org/?p=networkmanager-qt.git&a=commitdiff&h=93faf9ec94826c5d753aa090313472800ee41b86
[16:09] <ovidiuflorin> https://quickgit.kde.org/?p=networkmanager-qt.git&a=commitdiff&h=93faf9ec94826c5d753aa090313472800ee41b86
[16:09] <clivejo> if thats the fix, theres not much to it!
[16:09] <ovidiuflorin> ah
[16:09] <ovidiuflorin> you've beaten me to it
[16:09] <ovidiuflorin> seems to fit the description
[16:10] <ovidiuflorin> how does the cherry picking work then?
[16:10] <clivejo> make a patch with that diff and test it
[16:10] <clivejo> well that is cherry picking
[16:10] <ovidiuflorin> getting the patch I know how to do
[16:10] <clivejo> that piece of code is the cherry that will hopefully fix the code
[16:10] <ovidiuflorin> the rest is what puzzles me
[16:11] <clivejo> add it into the debian packaging and rebuild it
[16:11] <clivejo> yofel: would that warrant an SRU?
[16:11] <ovidiuflorin> SRU?
[16:12] <clivejo> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/StableReleaseUpdates
[16:12] <ovidiuflorin> I have to set-up my packagng env again... new system
[16:12] <yofel> if someone can write up a testcase, yes
[16:12] <clivejo> well need to see if the patch works first I guess
[16:13] <yofel> should be fairly easy as I think I suffer from that as well
[16:13]  * ovidiuflorin is lost again...
[16:14]  * ovidiuflorin heads over to https://notes.kde.org/p/kubuntu-packaging
[16:14]  * yofel wonders if we covered patching in there
[16:14]  * ovidiuflorin is presented with a 502 bad gateway...
[16:14] <clivejo> nope!
[16:15] <clivejo> patching is another can of worms
[16:15] <yofel> it should really just be a git-format-patch for the source commit, then a quilt import into the package
[16:15] <yofel> the SRU procedure would be the bulk of the work
[16:15]  * yofel remembers that clivejo wanted to do SRUs lately ^^
[16:17] <clivejo> are you remembering corrently?!?
[16:17] <yofel> of couuurrsseeeeee....
[16:17] <clivejo> LOL
[16:18]  * ovidiuflorin is going nuts....
[16:18] <clivejo> humm
[16:18] <clivejo> Im stuck
[16:18] <clivejo> Uploading oxygen-icons5_5.22.0.orig.tar.xz: 227800k/227801k
[16:18] <clivejo> for like 5 mins
[16:18] <yofel> -.-
[16:18] <yofel> yeah, that likes to happen
[16:19] <yofel> ofc. it happens with oxygen
[16:19] <clivejo> this happened will calligra and I had to use sftp
[16:19] <sgclark> morning
[16:19] <yofel> ovidiuflorin: need help...?
[16:19] <sgclark> ty yofel
[16:19] <clivejo> how do I force sftp
[16:20] <clivejo> hi sgclark
[16:20] <ovidiuflorin> the notes site is down
[16:20] <yofel> sgclark: thanks for all the work you do
[16:20] <ovidiuflorin> I don't know how to setup my system and what to do
[16:20] <ovidiuflorin> do you guys have a setting up script?
[16:21] <clivejo> for what?
[16:21] <yofel> wasn't that supposed to be docker?
[16:21] <yofel> eventually
[16:21] <yofel> But I get a gateway error too
 Thinks ovidiuflorin wasn't listening in the last packaging party when quilt and patches was discussed!
[16:25] <ovidiuflorin> no I wasn't 
[16:25] <ovidiuflorin> I was working on the website
[16:31]  * clivejo starts upload again with sftp
 :)
[17:58] <mamarley> For some reason http://qa.kubuntu.co.uk/ppa-status/frameworks/build_status_5.22.0_yakkety.html is showing a bunch of stuff red despite it having compiled successfully…
[17:59] <mamarley> Oh wait, those are 5.21 packages.  Hmm, why are they showing up at all then?
[18:07] <clivejo> mamarley: because I havent uploaded the 5.22 version yet
[18:07] <mamarley> Ah, OK.
[18:07] <mamarley> D'oh, I can see where it says that now.  Oops.
[18:07] <clivejo> failied due to merge markers in the change log I think
[18:44] <clivejo> yofel sgclark: the script thinks krunner is part of frameworks, was this moved?
[18:45] <yofel> a part of it is in frameworks at least I think
[18:45] <sgclark> afaik it has always een a framework
[18:45] <sgclark> been
[18:46] <clivejo> oh its in portingaids :/
[18:46] <clivejo> http://download.kde.org/stable/frameworks/5.21/portingAids/
[18:47] <clivejo> how does the script manage that?
[18:48] <clivejo> krunner: failed to fetch tarball from depot
[19:12] <soee> hiho
[19:24] <sick_rimmit> Hola
[19:25] <sick_rimmit> Kubuntu Dojo
[19:25] <sick_rimmit> https://www.kubuntu.org/news/kubuntu-dojo-ninja-developer-training/
[19:25] <sick_rimmit> I've proof read it 3 times, but I always make mistakes
[19:31] <soee> sick_rimmit: have you seen muon bug we reported yesterday?
[19:50] <sick_rimmit> No soee not looked at Bugs since last week
[19:51] <ronnoc> sick_rimmit: was great to read to read that post & it's a great idea
[19:53] <sick_rimmit> ronnoc: Bless you thanks, I hope the punct and grammar was ok
[19:53] <sick_rimmit> not my strong point
[19:54] <ronnoc> yepp. only thing I see on 1st pass that could be cleaned up are the bullet points under "why it rocks" - some have periods after them and some don't :)
[19:55] <ronnoc> but the message and the fact that this is a real thing are far more important
[19:58] <sick_rimmit> I'll fix them now, I have it open in edit
[20:00] <sick_rimmit> done
[20:03] <ronnoc> nice
[20:06] <sick_rimmit> Ooo yes and we have the Kubuntu party 3 the Friday before
[20:07] <sick_rimmit> https://www.kubuntu.org/news/kubuntu-party-3/
[20:07] <sick_rimmit> They are fun :-D
[20:37] <valorie> sick_rimmit: when I click the dojo G+ link, it says I need an invitation, with a button: request an invitation
[20:38] <valorie> also, reviewed and spiffed a bit the past two stories, the party and the dojo
[20:38] <valorie> thanks for writing them, Rick
[20:44] <clivejo> all the cool kids are doing it?!?
[20:45] <clivejo> such lies!
[20:46] <sick_rimmit> OK, so we're getting a little older, that's more massaging the truth than outright lies
[20:46] <clivejo> I think Phil is the youngest !
[20:47] <sick_rimmit> valorie: Oh thanks so much, I try my level best to do em good, but I am more of a talker than a writer
[20:48]  * soee writes on the wall: 5.6.4 Bugfix Tue 2016-05-10 and hides
[20:50] <clivejo> tomorrow?
[20:50] <soee> seems so https://community.kde.org/Schedules/Plasma_5
[20:51] <soee> and after this one month without updates :)
[20:51] <clivejo> soee: you should be bug manager!
[20:52] <clivejo> Testing and QA Manager
[20:52] <soee> if the bugs total number will be < 10 than sure :D
[20:52] <valorie> the cool kids and even the old ladies!
[20:53] <soee> maybe ill jump to YY after we have this all backported to Xenial
[20:53] <valorie> I am always willing to edit stories, blog posts, etc.
[20:53] <valorie> any time
[20:53] <clivejo> I really want apps 16.04
[20:53] <valorie> my YY upgrade went really smoothly
[20:53] <clivejo> I cant stand Kontact at the moment
[20:53] <soee> ;(
[20:53] <valorie> I'm wondering if I should add the landing PPA to it and test that too
[20:54] <clivejo> valorie: theres not much has changes in YY KDE wise
[20:54] <valorie> I've not tried kmail/kontact again
[20:54] <valorie> yeah
[20:54] <clivejo> but if you can add staging plasma and test Plasma 5.6.3 that would be great
[20:55] <valorie> what is the ppa name?
[20:55] <valorie> ppa:kubuntu-ppa/staging-plasma ?
[20:55] <clivejo> the more people we can get on it and testing the better it should get
[20:55] <clivejo> https://launchpad.net/~kubuntu-ppa/+archive/ubuntu/staging-plasma/
[20:55] <clivejo> yup
[20:56] <valorie> that will get me the newest frameworks as well?
[20:56] <clivejo> ish
[20:56] <clivejo> 5.21
[20:56] <soee> one red so far in Frameworks 5.22.0
[20:56] <valorie> wooooo, that sounds great!
[20:56] <clivejo> I had to copy in FW5.21 to get Plasma 5.6.3 to build
[20:56] <valorie> so our re-do of the work process is ~nearly done?
[20:57] <clivejo> but really hammer and test it
[20:57] <clivejo> also install the new breeze plymouth theme
[20:57] <valorie> well, that means *using* that computer, and I so fancy my new one!
[20:57] <valorie> perhaps today I should move this one to YY as well
[20:58] <valorie> and test here
[20:58] <valorie> loving the high-dpi screen
[20:58] <valorie> nice keyboard
[20:58] <valorie> etc
[20:58]  * clivejo is thinking of customising it to say Kubuntu 16.10 - Plasma 5.6.3
[20:58] <valorie> Sysinfo for 'valorie-GT60-2PC': Running inside KDE Plasma 5.5.5 on Ubuntu 16.04 LTS (Xenial Xerus) powered by Linux 4.4.0-22-generic, CPU: Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-4810MQ CPU @ 2.80GHz at 3052-3535/3800 MHz, RAM: 23839/24030 MB, Storage: 288/967 GB, 264 procs, 47.08h up
[20:58] <valorie> amazing machine really
[20:59] <soee> nice :)
[20:59] <valorie> son's "old" gaming laptop which I bought Saturday
[20:59] <soee> you can compile stuff on it so fast now :D
[20:59] <clivejo> you bought it?
[20:59] <valorie> I think he paid almost 2K for it, I paid $350
[20:59] <valorie> quite a bargain
[21:00] <sick_rimmit> Yes, nice machine
[21:00] <clivejo> LOL not only do I give my mother my old stuff I have to do customer support for it as well!
[21:00] <valorie> the S key is a bit worn.....
[21:00] <valorie> that's it
[21:00] <sick_rimmit> clivejo: rofl
[21:00] <valorie> he's given me many a computer
[21:00] <valorie> but right now he's unemployed
[21:00]  * soee says again that Plasma 5.6 is soooo smooooth
[21:00] <clivejo> yippeeee
[21:00] <valorie> new job perhaps starting soon, but I think his savings is a bit thinner than it was
[21:01] <clivejo> but do test 5.6.3 out
[21:01] <clivejo> more eyes on it the better :)
[21:01] <soee> ok i need some light on one thing
[21:04] <mamarley> soee: I don't see any FTBFSs.  The only red thing is krunner, which is still at 5.21, indicating that 5.22 has not yet been uploaded.
[21:06] <valorie> ok, yy upgrade underway
[21:06] <valorie> this thing is so dang fast I can't believe it
[21:06] <soee> mamarley: ok
[21:06] <clivejo> stop teasing!
[21:06] <soee> hihi
[21:07] <clivejo> mamarley: krunner doesnt seem to be on depot in the correct place
[21:07] <soee> mamarley: btw. you never had this screen blinking issue ?
[21:07] <clivejo> anyone know why this is failing - http://kci.pangea.pub/job/merger_kdelibs4support/13/consoleFull
[21:08] <valorie> and restarting
[21:09] <mamarley> soee: Nope, I do not own or administrate any systems with Intel graphics and DisplayPort monitors.
[21:09] <soee> mamarley: i see
[21:26] <clivejo> any word on getting the wiki login loop fixed?
[21:27] <clivejo> we NEED documentation
[21:28] <clivejo> no point in having it locked away on KDE notes
[21:28] <clivejo> https://notes.kde.org/p/kubuntu-packaging
[21:58] <shadeslayer> anyone worked with filterdiff extensively?
[21:59] <shadeslayer> I need to figure out how to make it ignore new files
[22:00] <shadeslayer> though I presume I'll have to patch filterdiff at this point really
[22:02] <valorie> hmmm, xenial was working with my setup, but YY is giving me a fit
[22:03] <valorie> I put the ISOs I'm seeding on a Data partition next to Win10, to give me some space on /home which is on the SSD
[22:03] <valorie> now ktorrent is warning that it isn't mounted
[22:04] <valorie> ah, son is helping via telegram, sorry for the noise
[22:08] <clivejo> valorie: just upgrade xenial to yakkety
[22:08] <clivejo> sed the source file
[22:08] <valorie> I did that
[22:08] <valorie> it's when I restarted I got the problem
[22:08] <valorie> but I think I've fixed
[22:08] <clivejo> what was the problem?
[22:10] <valorie> my data partition is no longer auto-mounting
[22:10] <valorie> I think I fixed in /etc/fstab
[22:10] <valorie> now trying to mount it
[22:11] <clivejo> soee: you busy?
[22:13] <clivejo> ovidiuflorin: ping
[22:13] <valorie> restarting
[22:17] <valorie> fixxored
[22:17] <valorie> had to restart though
[22:20] <soee> clivejo: sup?
[22:27] <clivejo> can you find the LP bug for the VPN bug ovidiuflorin was talking about earlier
[22:29] <valorie> is sudo apt full-upgrade now working, or do we have to go back to dist-upgrade as https://wiki.ubuntu.com/U%2B1/common-problems says?
[22:30] <soee> !bug 362847
[22:31] <valorie> hmmm, 
[22:31] <valorie> The following packages will be REMOVED:
[22:31] <valorie>   kactivities kde-spectacle libkf5screen6 libkwinglutils7
[22:31] <valorie> I guess I can add them back.....
[22:31] <soee> https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=362847362847
[22:31] <soee> https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=362847
[22:31] <soee> https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=362141
[22:32] <valorie> ok, it's upgrading
[22:32]  * valorie goes to the hardware store
[22:32] <soee> valorie: kde-spectacle is fixed for xenial
[22:32] <soee> you are on YY ?
[22:32] <soee> if so it will be working with apps 16.04 i think (kde-spectacle)
[22:33] <soee> and kactivities were replaed by different package
[22:36] <clivejo> soee: is it not on LP?
[22:36] <soee> probably no
[22:44] <clivejo> humm
[22:44] <clivejo> ovidiuflorin: ping
[22:48] <clivejo> yofel: ping
[22:58] <clivejo> ovidiuflorin @ovidiuflorin yofel: I patched networkmanager-qt with that commit we talked about eariler and uploaded to my Xenial PPA ( https://launchpad.net/~clivejo/+archive/ubuntu/xenial/ )
[22:59] <clivejo> Im not sure it that will just work, maybe plasma-nm needs to be no change rebuild for it to work?
[22:59] <clivejo> if you guys can test it and let me know
[23:02] <claydoh> in Plasma-discover, what is read or indexed to determine what programs show? quite a few things do not show via search
[23:02] <clivejo> claydoh: I think it uses appstream
[23:02] <claydoh> yeah but what is it using to filter out what it does NOT show?
[23:03] <clivejo> probably if or if not the program has appstream data
[23:03] <claydoh> krita doesn't show, but is found using appstreamcli
[23:04] <claydoh> for one example
[23:04] <claydoh> tho another, kmymoney does  not show in either discover or appstreamcli
[23:05] <claydoh> so it is likely both missing data and bugs in discover (already reported)
[23:07] <clivejo> sorry, I dont know
[23:07] <claydoh> konversation does not show up there either, even though it is installed
[23:08] <clivejo> I just heard yofel talking about packages missing appstream data so couldnt be found in discover
[23:08]  * claydoh is seeing some feedback on this, originally thought it was just the normal non-gui stuff b eing filtered out
 soee_: the guy was looking for it, and it does not show up in either ubuntu's software center or in Discover
 and if it doesn't show up that's missing appstream data
[23:10] <clivejo> Ill have to learn it too
[23:10] <clivejo> but not tonight
[23:10]  * clivejo kicks kio
[23:32] <valorie> looks like my upgrade went fine!
[23:33] <clivejo> you sound surprised!
[23:33] <valorie> I guess I have to restart again to seem the new plasma
[23:33] <valorie> but what was the new grub screen or so to test?
[23:33] <valorie> only surprised because I wasn't here to watch it
[23:33] <valorie> lol
[23:34] <valorie> I don't like doing upgrades unattended, but my husband was most insistent
[23:34] <clivejo> apt install plymouth-theme-breeze
[23:35] <clivejo> and reboot
[23:35] <clivejo> should see the new theme
[23:35] <valorie> done, rebooting
[23:35]  * clivejo is sick of waiting on LP publisher
 ;)
 Why not sleeping?
[23:37] <clivejo> stupid flashing green cog
[23:37] <clivejo> I will
[23:38] <clivejo> just want to poke FW5.22 when kio gets published
[23:38] <clivejo> lots of builds waiting on it
[23:39] <clivejo> grrr
[23:39] <clivejo> looks like Ill have to build it again
[23:39] <clivejo> new symbols
[23:40] <valorie> that lil plasma screen is lovely
[23:41] <clivejo> be nicer with Kubuntu 16.10 on it :)
 :)
[23:41] <valorie> and although this is the fastest-booting machine I've ever used, I think the newest plasma is even faster than 5.5.5
 It is. It was much optimised.
[23:41] <valorie> when the backports to xenial is done, I'll update the travel laptop too
[23:42] <valorie> I have one XX now, and two YY
 Wee nice. Places to test new stuff ;)
[23:42] <valorie> question is, should I remove plasma-staging now that I've upgraded?
 Frameworks 5.22 and Plasma 5.6.4 are just around the corner.
[23:43] <valorie> I think I'll remove and re-add when I want to test again
 And Scarlett maybe will finish apps some time soon :)
 This combination of software will be epic in Kubuntu :)
[23:51] <clivejo> yes, always remove when done
[23:51] <clivejo> we sometime push test to those PPA's and you DO NOT want those!
[23:51] <clivejo> anyways, Im off to bed
[23:52] <clivejo> kio is driving me nuts
[23:52] <clivejo> night
[23:58] <valorie> niters clivejo
[23:59] <valorie> sweet dreams