[03:20] <KU_newbie> hello all
[03:20] <KU_newbie> does 16.04 not work properly in vbox VMs?
[04:18] <user|97366> how do I get my display driver to update
[04:19] <user|97366> I go to my driver manager and dont see any driver options
[04:48] <user|74161> Hi there, can someone tell me the system requirements for kubuntu 14.04 and 16.04, please?
[07:40] <prova>  Hi everyone! Could you suggest me how to install a minimal K desktop enviroment over a "mini.iso" xenial installation?
[07:42] <hateball> prova: plasma-desktop is probably the smallest meta-package
[07:43] <hateball> prova: whereas kubuntu-desktop is the full experience
[07:45] <prova> Is plasma-desktop the same as kde-plasma-desktop for previous releases?
[07:47] <prova>  @hateball
[07:47] <akik> anybody tested installing unity in a kubuntu installation? it complains of account plugins for facebook and google coming from two different packages
[07:55] <hateball> prova: afaik yes
[07:55] <prova> hateball, Thanks
[07:58] <akik> here's a possible fix for my problem http://askubuntu.com/questions/621284/unmet-dependencies-when-trying-to-install-kde-plasma-5-3-on-ubuntu-15-04 it talks about removing the conflicting packages before installation of the other de
[07:59] <valorie> 15.04 is no longer supported, akik
[08:00] <akik> valorie: i just mentioned the solution for the current problem
[08:00] <valorie> right, and sometimes that works
[08:00] <akik> the same in here http://askubuntu.com/questions/764542/help-installing-kubuntu-desktop-on-ubuntu-16-04
[08:01] <valorie> there is usually a reason for the conflict however
[08:01] <valorie> and sometimes it means an error in packaging
[08:03] <valorie> you are right though, that askubuntu page seems to have a reasonable discussion
[08:09] <akik> i'll test it in virtualbox
[08:11] <akik> other way round though, installing unity to under kubuntu
[09:13] <akik> i was able to install ubuntu-desktop under unity but now there's only the desktop without any panels
[09:13] <akik> sorry ubuntu-desktop under kubuntu
[09:13] <akik> which package is providing the dash etc. ?
[09:14] <soee_> akik: i think this is not right channel for this question, jump to #ubuntu
[09:14] <akik> ok
[10:46] <hazamonzo> Howdy
[10:50] <soee_> hiho hazamonzo
[10:50] <hazamonzo> soee_: Hey there
[10:50] <hazamonzo> I think today is the day Im going to take up smoking again...
[10:55] <soee_> no ...
[11:08] <hazamonzo> So im looking for the location of the sticky notes data in KDE
[11:08] <hazamonzo> Im told its in ~/.kde/share/config/plasma-appletsrc
[11:09] <hazamonzo> But I don't have the plasma-appletsrc  in that directory
[11:09] <hazamonzo> Any other places to check?
[11:09] <hateball> it was, in KDE4
[11:09] <hateball> it should be under ~/.local/ somewhere with plasma 5, not sure where exactly
[11:09] <hateball> if you know a phrase from a note you can grep for it
[11:11] <hazamonzo> hateball: Good thinking
[11:13] <hazamonzo> hateball: /.local/share/plasma_notes
[11:13] <hazamonzo> Thanks mate
[11:17] <hateball> hazamonzo: :)
[11:25] <yossarianuk> can anyone say why I get the following in dsmeg when I setup a network bridge using network-manager (for bridge br0)
[11:25] <yossarianuk> [ 1271.540537] br0: port 1(enp3s0f1) received tcn bpdu
[11:25] <yossarianuk>  [ 1271.540548] br0: topology change detected, propagating
[11:25] <yossarianuk>  with stp enabled?
[11:25] <yossarianuk>  however if I add the bridge just by editing /etc/network/interfaces (old ubuntu method) I do not see any messages
[11:25] <yossarianuk>  i.e - if I use this method (and enable stp) I do not see the messages -> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KvmWithBridge
[11:25] <yossarianuk>  however I want to use network-manager do easily change netowrk profiles
[11:27] <hazamonzo> So check this. I went to update kubuntu last night and it went terrible. Im getting a Kernal Panic - Unable to Mount file system. From what i've read it its either a case of a bad upgrade ot running out of diskspace?
[11:28] <hazamonzo> Its making for a fun Monday at the office! :)
[11:28] <yossarianuk> hazamonzo: can you try a previous kernel ?
[11:28] <hazamonzo> Any pointers on figuring out why the file system couldn't be mounted before I start trying solutions I google?
[11:28] <Smurphy> Anyone knows a Tool I can use to anotate something on my screen ???
[11:29] <hazamonzo> yossarianuk: Good question
[11:29] <hazamonzo> yossarianuk: I haven't yet. Let me jump inot IRC on my mobile and reboot this laptop
[11:29] <yossarianuk> you can get to the grub menu by holding left shift during boot
[11:29] <hazamonzo> yossarianuk: Grub I can still get to
[11:30] <yossarianuk> worth a go
[11:30] <yossarianuk> if you can get it to boot at least you should be able to fix it.
[11:30] <yossarianuk> if not use live cd
[11:30] <yossarianuk> check things like grub menu boot devices, fstab , etc
[11:30] <hazamonzo> yossarianuk: Thats what im hoping! To be honest... i just installed a new version of Kubuntu alongside for the time being (which is what im on now)
[11:32] <hazamonzo> Right. be right back
[11:39] <BluesKaj> Hi folks
[11:40] <haza123> Hey blueskaj
[11:42] <haza123> Hey yossarianuk
[11:43] <haza123> Looks like I can get to the login screen.  Can login though.  Password is accepted but I get thrown back to the login screen after a login attempt
[11:44] <haza123> I can log in via a terminal though
[11:44] <hateball> haza123: drop to tty1, login and make sure you're the owner of ~/.Xauthority
[11:44] <haza123> Checking now
[11:44] <BluesKaj> hi haza123
[11:45] <yossarianuk> haza123: did you upgrade from an old version?
[11:45] <haza123> That's right
[11:45] <haza123> Also I have rw access on xauthority
[11:46] <yossarianuk> Do you see any updates if you do (from tty)  - sudo apt-get update ; sudo apt-get dist-upgrade ?
[11:47] <haza123> Hmm, something about dpkg being interrupted
[11:47] <yossarianuk> sounds like an incomplete upgrade
[11:47] <yossarianuk> do you have network ?
[11:48] <haza123> Just about to grab a cable. :-)
[11:49] <yossarianuk> if you do you could try 'sudo apt-get -f install'
[11:49] <yossarianuk>  I have made a forum post here about the bridging issue -> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2323900&p=13486188#post13486188
[11:50] <yossarianuk> this bug is ruining 16.04 for me ...  https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1578533
[11:52] <haza123> I had to run dpkg --configure -a before it allows me to -f install
[11:52] <yossarianuk> check what its ssaying before you press y
[11:53] <dmatt> hello guys on kubuntu 16.04, could anybody confirm that knetwalk game does not work? or is it just me?
[11:54] <hateball> dmatt: segfaults indeed
[11:55] <hateball> dmatt: seems to need qml-module-org-kde-games-core
[11:56] <hateball> dmatt: feel free to file a packaging bug against knetwalk
[11:57] <dmatt> hateball: i test it now and file afterwards
[11:58] <dmatt> hateball: yes it works now, i suppose bug should be filed on launchpad
[11:58] <hateball> !bug
[11:59] <haza123> I'm not sure exactly what is happening but the dpkg configure command is doing alot. Looks like it's continuing the installation maybe?
[12:00] <haza123> Yossarianuk. Are you UK based?
[12:02] <haza123> Also, do I want to keep a modified sddm xsession file?
[12:02] <hateball> if you're not sure, I'd go with the packaged version over a modified one
[12:02] <haza123> Okay
[12:02] <yossarianuk> haza123: yes I am
[12:03] <yossarianuk> I would let it overwtite
[12:03] <yossarianuk> espically as previously you couldn't logi
[12:08] <hazamonzo> Oh my god.....
[12:09] <hazamonzo> yossarianuk: hateball... you guys just saved my day...
[12:09] <hateball> :)
[12:09] <hateball> I dont think I did anything tho, but good that it is working :D
[12:09] <hazamonzo> I am seriously grateful!
[12:16] <BluesKaj> ok gotta reboot, testing plasma and frameworks 5.6.3
[12:18] <Smurphy> :}
[12:24] <akik> oh wow i installed ubuntu-desktop on top of kubuntu installation. now when logging into plasma i get both plasma and unity dash :P
[12:25] <akik> the startup script i made into unity is activated also in plasma system settings/autostart
[12:34] <akik> i can't believe it. disabling the autostart script from plasma disables it also in unity
[12:34] <hateball> The wonders of XDG
[12:35] <akik> so i have to make some check in the script to see which de is running
[12:36] <hateball> I'd think Unity would have somewhere to set the window manager, just like Plasma does
[12:37] <hateball> So there would be no need to use startup scripts for that
[12:38] <akik> i don't think this scenario has been tested because there were dependency errors by default
[12:40] <akik> i have to run setsid unity in the script to start up the dash
[12:41] <user|53765> have forgotten my password  help
[12:58] <slhk> Hi, why doesn't org.debian.AptXapianIndex show up in qdbusviewer? does it have to be started somehow?
[13:02] <yossarianuk> hazamonzo: glad it helped
[13:38] <MichaelP> Anyone know if there going to be any mainline kernels for 16.04 ?
[13:42] <akik> MichaelP: the normal kernel mainline 4.6.0 kernels work
[13:43] <MichaelP> akik: i think last 4.6 kernel i used in fedora had no hdmi audio
[13:47] <akik> i'll test video+audio
[13:50] <MichaelP> k
[13:54] <akik> audio+video go to my tv with hdmi now
[13:54] <akik> i'm running 4.6.0 rc2 because after that the nvidia module was not compiling
[13:55] <MichaelP> Whats the difference in generic and lowlatency ?
[13:55] <MichaelP> i running ati
[13:55] <akik> rc7 is now available
[13:56] <MichaelP> I just downloaded it... releaesed yesterday
[13:57]  * Smurphy is still not sure about upgrading to kubuntu 16.04 - will probably have to re-modify all my scripts etc.
[14:01] <akik> still the error coming from nvidia dkms
[14:01] <akik> i wonder if i should install nvidia-364 instead of nvidia-361
[14:01] <MichaelP> rebooot into kernel 4.6-rc7 see what i get
[14:15] <MichaelP> akik: kernel 4.6-rc7 no hdmi audio
[14:17] <akik> MichaelP: how do you test?
[14:18] <akik> i'm playing a video through an onkyo amp
[14:19] <MichaelP>  I played video thru vlc... mp3 thru amarok.... no sound... but switching to laptop speakers then there is sound
[14:19] <MichaelP> i going thru kenwood amp
[14:19] <akik> MichaelP: try installing pavucontrol and selecting your output device there
[14:19] <MichaelP> i did
[14:20] <MichaelP> everything works on stock kernel
[14:20] <akik> there could be another setting in pavucontrol that you need to change
[14:21] <MichaelP> really plasma don't need pavucontrol
[14:25] <akik> still working with nvidia-364 and kernel 4.6.0 rc7 *knock wood*
[14:25] <akik> last page in pavucontrol shows all possible outputs
[14:26] <BluesKaj> akik, hope you don't expect support here using a non default kernel
[14:26] <akik> no
[14:27] <BluesKaj> MichaelP, if you have intel-hda audio then yes
[14:27] <akik> intel audio doesn't use pulseaudio?
[14:31] <BluesKaj> it does because pulse is defualt , that's the only reason , intel-hde can run fine without pulse. Most audio drivers can with the exception of webaudio which needs pulse on non intel chips
[14:32] <BluesKaj> in other words, webaudio is the only drawback to running without pulse on most audio chips other than intel
[14:33] <BluesKaj> and multiple simultaneous audio sources , but personally i don't listen to more than one source at atime anyway ;-)
[14:34] <akik> i just want to make the minimum amount of changes to the system
[14:36] <BluesKaj> of coursse, but I just don't need an unecessary extra audio process going on between alsa and the audio output
[14:38] <MichaelP> guess try the old way for the hdmi audio.. at the end of the kernel line... radeon.audio=1
[14:50] <yossarianuk> is anyone running 16.04 ok in vbox
[14:51] <yossarianuk> I personally use KVM - but I have a windows using workmate who's trying to get guest additions to work - once he installs it and reboots the deskotp breaks
[14:57] <acheron88> xenial in VBox is OK here
[14:58] <BluesKaj> yossarianuk, I thought guest additons were written for VB not KVM
[14:58] <acheron88> think they're asking for a friend who DOES use VBox?
[15:01] <BluesKaj> acheron88, oops, my mistake :-) ..not paying close attention again
[15:03] <jasonwert> Rea
[15:03] <MichaelP> How do i uninstall the 4.6 rc7 kernel ? muon and synaptic not showing them
[15:04] <genii> MichaelP: Depends how you installed it
[15:05] <MichaelP> genii: downloaded clicked on them and guess QApt installed them
[15:07] <BluesKaj> MichaelP, http://www.yourownlinux.com/2016/03/how-to-install-linux-kernel-4-5-rc7-in-linux.html
[15:07] <acheron88> 'sudo apt-get purge' followed by the package names
[15:11] <genii> If it was a .deb file then the package manager whould still list it, just there will be no repository associated with it
[15:12] <MichaelP> sudo apt-get purge linux-headers-4.6.0-040600rc7_4.6.0-040600rc7.201605081830_all ... don't even find
[15:14] <MichaelP> shoting it to inux-headers-4.6.0 found it
[15:16] <acheron88> yes, package name != file name for apt/apt-get
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[17:22] <micha__> anyone alive?
[17:28] <Lildirt> micha__: If you have a question, usually the best thing to do is just ask it. If someone can help you, they'll hopefully chime in.
[17:29] <micha__> Lildirt: Thanks for the tip. No specific question here, just finding my way through irc again... ;)
[17:30] <Lildirt> Alrighty. :p
[17:45] <goddard> my keyboard settings are messed up in some apps like Firefox
[17:45] <akashdeep> hi...!!!
[18:45] <tiggo> Hello
[18:46] <tiggo> Is there anyone who could assist me with Synchronisation of contacts between KDE Kontact and my owncloud server?
[18:47] <tiggo> Or who has any hint on where the experts are?
[19:44] <keithzg> tiggo: Not entirely sure, although my officemate has it set up and it *mostly* "Just Works".
[19:49] <tiggo> Hi keithzg, Thanks for your answer. For me it also mostl just works.
[19:50] <tiggo> Currently however I am a little bit stuck with an error message stating that a Contact entry could not be deleted from the server.
[19:51] <tiggo> keithzg: The ressource could not be deleted. (401).
[19:51] <tiggo> Any hint?
[19:52] <keithzg> tiggo: Hmm, I'm afraid not. Do you control the ownCloud server in question? I wonder if there'd be anything helpful in the actual logs.
[19:53] <tiggo> keithzg: Yes, it's a raspi right next to me. With a fresh install of owncloud. Do you have any idea of owncloud log files, i.e. where to find them?
[19:54] <tiggo> keithzg: Owncloud 9 btw.
[19:56] <keithzg> tiggo: Depends on precisely where you have it installed to, but in the "data" folder there should be an owncloud.log file. Possibly (likely?) /var/www/owncloud/data
[19:58] <keithzg> You might need to change teh loglevel to get much from that, not entirely sure what the default is; in my /var/www/owncloud/config/config.php I have it set to 'loglevel' => '2'
[20:02] <tiggo> keithzg: I just checked. It is /data/owncloud/data.
[20:02] <tiggo> And yes, there is a logfile, but that quite strange to read.
[20:03] <keithzg> Yeah it's mostly JSON and such I believe
[20:04] <tiggo> Is there a way to make it readable?
[20:04] <tiggo> 142): Sabre\\\\DAV\\\\Server->exec()\\n#12 \\\/var\\\/www\\\/owncloud\\\/apps\\\/dav\\\/appinfo\\\/v2\\\/remote.php(29): OCA\\\\DAV\\\\Server->exec()\\n#13 \\\/var\\\/www\\\/owncloud\\\/remote.php(138): require_once('\\\/var\\\/www\\\/ownclo...')\\n#14 {main}\",\"File
[20:04] <tiggo> This is how it looks like in many lines....
[20:04] <tiggo> Not even a time stamp.
[20:05] <tiggo> At https://forum.owncloud.org/viewtopic.php?f=38&t=33274
[20:06] <tiggo> I just read "...  after you have added 'debug' => true to your config/config.php."
[20:06] <tiggo> Maybe I check that, once my update completed.
[20:16] <tiggo> keithzg: Thanks for your hints. I have to leave now. Bye.
[20:16] <tiggo> QUIT
[20:47] <Doyle> Why is it that linux network drivers for macbooks aren't included?
[23:55] <valorie> Doyle: so few mac users
[23:56] <valorie> however, there are server images; so you can install from those ISOs and then sudo apt install kubuntu-desktop to get the equivalent
[23:58] <valorie> http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/releases/xenial/release/
[23:58] <valorie> if you don't want unity, get one of the server images