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pitti | Good morning | 06:26 |
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seb128 | hey pitti! had a good trip back? enjoyed the sunny sunday & recovered from the week? | 06:34 |
pitti | bonjour seb128 ! | 06:34 |
pitti | seb128: indeed I did! we spent the entire Sunday outside; watching the canoo & kajak international contest on the wild water canal, I played basketball outside, did some gardening, and we re-coated our patio furniture | 06:36 |
pitti | seb128: almost no jetlag problems this time, sun helps :) | 06:36 |
pitti | I think I by and large figured this out | 06:36 |
seb128 | great :-) | 06:37 |
pitti | seb128: et toi, as-tu eu un bon week-end aussi ? | 06:38 |
seb128 | oui, plutôt bon | 06:38 |
seb128 | we were in the North of France, spending the w.e and picking up some fournitures, was quite sunny&warm | 06:39 |
seb128 | bah, just looked at the forecast | 06:40 |
seb128 | rainy started on wednesday and like 13°C next w.e | 06:40 |
seb128 | starting | 06:40 |
* seb128 needs to go play tennis tonight while it's still nice | 06:41 | |
pitti | seb128: oh, I had assumed you had some fixed times in the week for tennis | 06:41 |
pitti | seb128: is your partner flexible as well, or do you just play with whoever happens to be on the court? | 06:42 |
seb128 | I've fixed times from training | 06:42 |
duflu | pitti: Morning.... and question: How to I find out the error report ID of a crash just submitted? | 06:42 |
duflu | I get no URL information. Just .uploaded added | 06:42 |
seb128 | but then I know some people who like to play one or two time a week and are flexible on the days | 06:42 |
seb128 | we usually play at 7pm or 8pm | 06:43 |
seb128 | hey duflu | 06:43 |
duflu | Morning seb128 | 06:43 |
seb128 | duflu, you have a link to your reported issues in unity-control-center -> privacy | 06:44 |
seb128 | duflu, or you can open 'http://errors.ubuntu.com/user/'$(printf $(sudo cat /sys/class/dmi/id/product_uuid) | sha512sum) | 06:44 |
pitti | duflu: in control center's "security & privacy" (or similar) -> Diagnosis you have a "show earlier reports" | 06:44 |
pitti | this leads you to the URL that seb128 mentioned | 06:44 |
duflu | Sweet, thanks seb128 + pitti | 06:44 |
seb128 | yw! | 06:44 |
pitti | that page became a whole lot more useful during the error tracker sprint | 06:44 |
seb128 | pitti, oh, nice, I didn't visit for a while | 06:45 |
seb128 | good work :-) | 06:45 |
happyaron | seb128: https://launchpad.net/~happyaron/+archive/ubuntu/ppa/+sourcepub/6404038/+listing-archive-extra | 06:59 |
seb128 | hey happyaron! how are you? | 06:59 |
happyaron | but not quite sure about the version to use, in 16.10 there's -1build1 | 06:59 |
happyaron | great, :) | 06:59 |
seb128 | happyaron, thanks, going to have a look to that today | 07:00 |
seb128 | the version you used looks good | 07:00 |
Sweet5hark | moin | 07:00 |
seb128 | also did you see the n-m bug I assigned you? we might want to cherry pack that specific patch | 07:00 |
seb128 | hey Sweet5hark, wie gehts? | 07:00 |
happyaron | seb128: yes I've read that | 07:01 |
Sweet5hark | Im fine, how about you? | 07:01 |
seb128 | I'm good thanks | 07:02 |
seb128 | going to grab some coffee outside, bbiab | 07:29 |
* duflu seconds that | 07:34 | |
desrt | hello desktop! | 07:46 |
* desrt is back from the mosel | 07:46 | |
pitti | hey desrt! | 07:50 |
desrt | hello pitti | 07:51 |
desrt | your country is pretty | 07:51 |
pitti | desrt: some parts are indeed, the Mosel region for sure is | 07:51 |
pitti | desrt: did you get enough wine? :-) | 07:51 |
desrt | bleh | 07:51 |
desrt | i don't need to drink for another week, i think | 07:51 |
desrt | although i also brought many bottles with me :) | 07:52 |
Laney | morning! | 08:03 |
flexiondotorg | Morning. | 08:04 |
Laney | haha | 08:04 |
* Laney pictures a stern flexiondotorg sitting behind a desk | 08:04 | |
willcooke | morning all | 08:05 |
* flexiondotorg is not feeling stern :-) | 08:05 | |
flexiondotorg | But does need some advice. | 08:05 |
flexiondotorg | Debian is now GTK 3.20. | 08:05 |
flexiondotorg | Ubuntu 16.10 is currently 3.18. | 08:05 |
flexiondotorg | I've packages mate-themes 3.20 for Debian. | 08:06 |
flexiondotorg | But obviously don't want those to sync to Ubuntu, just yet. | 08:06 |
flexiondotorg | How can I version/name mate-themes in Ubuntu to prevent the Debian sync replacing them? | 08:06 |
flexiondotorg | Just add -0ubuntu1 suffix, or something else? | 08:06 |
flexiondotorg | Laney, seb128 Any suggestions? ^^^ | 08:07 |
Laney | It won't sync if there's 'ubuntu' in the version string | 08:07 |
flexiondotorg | OK. Perfect. | 08:07 |
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seb128 | hey desrt Laney willcooke flexiondotorg | 08:16 |
desrt | moin, seb | 08:16 |
flexiondotorg | o/ | 08:16 |
seb128 | flexiondotorg, what laney said | 08:16 |
seb128 | things are autosynced only when they are exact copies | 08:17 |
seb128 | if there is a local diff it needs to be manually handled | 08:17 |
Laney | sort of, it determines it by version | 08:17 |
Laney | so if you do 'buildX' then it will be overwritten | 08:17 |
Laney | even if it wasn't actually a rebuild | 08:17 |
Laney | hi seb128! | 08:18 |
seb128 | hey Laney | 08:18 |
seb128 | right | 08:18 |
seb128 | sorry should have been more specific ;-) | 08:18 |
Laney | good weekend? | 08:18 |
seb128 | Laney, had a good w.e? | 08:18 |
Laney | heh | 08:18 |
seb128 | quite, though we had to pick furnitures and drive around with those | 08:19 |
Laney | summer arrived all at once | 08:19 |
seb128 | would have prefered to spend that time enjoying the sun | 08:19 |
seb128 | yeah | 08:19 |
seb128 | here it came | 08:19 |
seb128 | but it's going away | 08:19 |
Laney | we went to the allotment | 08:19 |
Laney | did some digging and planting | 08:19 |
seb128 | it's still nice but their forecast rain from wednesday and like 13°C for the w.e | 08:19 |
seb128 | nice | 08:19 |
Laney | and then to a bbq, where it stormed about 5 minutes after we lit it | 08:19 |
seb128 | :-( | 08:19 |
Laney | so ended up inside | 08:19 |
Laney | and yesterday it was hot again so walked into town to have lunch at a cafe | 08:20 |
Laney | but yeah, looks like it is dead from tomorrow http://www.bbc.co.uk/weather/ng5 | 08:21 |
pitti | hey Laney, good morning! | 08:31 |
davmor2 | Laney: you got arrested and sent to prison \o/ and they say our tax money doesn't pay for law and order......oh wait you just mean inside your house don't you ;) | 08:34 |
Laney | davmor2: I know which one serves the better food | 08:37 |
davmor2 | Laney: Prison right | 08:44 |
willcooke | seb128, https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=765664 | 08:52 |
ubot5 | Gnome bug 765664 in User Interface ".view style cannot be overridden by external CSS" [Normal,Resolved: fixed] | 08:52 |
seb128 | willcooke, great! | 08:53 |
willcooke | seb128, I guess this means we have to back port a fix? Or we could just use my "patch"? | 08:53 |
seb128 | willcooke, they included the fix in 3.20.2 it seems, https://git.gnome.org/browse/gnome-calendar/log/?h=gnome-3-20 | 08:54 |
seb128 | so we just need to SRU the update | 08:54 |
seb128 | I'm going to have a look to that today | 08:54 |
willcooke | oh, nice one, thanks seb128 | 08:54 |
seb128 | yw | 08:54 |
seb128 | thanks for following up on that | 08:54 |
willcooke | nw | 08:54 |
willcooke | I /think/ that might also fix issues I've seen with progress bars | 08:54 |
willcooke | the .view class is making things look wrong | 08:55 |
willcooke | i.e. progress bars are not filled in | 08:55 |
seb128 | in gnome-calendar you mean? | 08:56 |
seb128 | or the update-manager one | 08:56 |
seb128 | because that commit ^ is in gnome-calendar, it's not going to fix other softwares | 08:57 |
seb128 | they might have similar issues though | 08:57 |
seb128 | willcooke, btw working with the oem guys on the u-s-d issue, the segfault they hit seems to be bug #1503758 | 08:59 |
ubot5 | bug 1503758 in unity-settings-daemon (Ubuntu) "/usr/lib/unity-settings-daemon/unity-settings-daemon:5:XIQueryDevice:xdevice_get_dimensions:input_info_find_size_match:get_mappable_output_info:do_touchscreen_mapping" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1503758 | 08:59 |
willcooke | ahhh, nice one, thanks seb128 | 09:00 |
Laney | hey pitti (sorry, missed your message)! | 09:01 |
darkxst | hey willcooke seb128 Laney | 09:35 |
seb128 | hey darkxst, how are you? | 09:36 |
darkxst | seb128, good, though its been a crazy week, Ali just stormed off from Ubuntu GNOME | 09:36 |
seb128 | oh, waouh, why? | 09:36 |
darkxst | well there was some in-fighting between him and the marketing team, but I think the final straw was when I constructively criticized his UOS presentation | 09:38 |
seb128 | :-/ | 09:39 |
darkxst | and the earlier suggestions to simplify the convoluted mess he has made on the wiki and team structures | 09:39 |
darkxst | there are 180 wiki pages :( | 09:40 |
darkxst | willcooke, was there any updates on the gtk+ theme stuff for 3.20? | 09:41 |
darkxst | I did browse through the adwaita changes, look like a shed load of search + Replace commits | 09:42 |
willcooke | darkxst, no update. Just "yeah, lots of work" | 09:42 |
seb128 | flexiondotorg said they might be able to help | 09:43 |
seb128 | their themes are derivated/close from ours and have been getting fixes | 09:43 |
seb128 | so we might be able to cherrypick/apply those to ours | 09:43 |
seb128 | though I'm not sure I understood the specifics of their themes, they have several variants and I'm unsure they fixed yet the ones derivated from ours | 09:43 |
darkxst | seb128, I am not all up to date with what they are doing with regards to gtk3 themes | 09:46 |
seb128 | darkxst, http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2016/05/06/%23ubuntu-desktop.html#t15:00 for reference | 09:47 |
seb128 | lunch, bbiab | 09:47 |
darkxst | seb128, right, doesnt sound like their themes are ported | 09:50 |
flexiondotorg | seb128, willcooke darkxst Ubuntu MATE is transitioning MATE 1.14 to GTK3 in 16.10. | 09:51 |
flexiondotorg | This requires that we update Ambiant-MATE to fully support MATE in GTK3. | 09:52 |
flexiondotorg | We have going to first update Ambiant-MATE to GTK 3.18 and then to 3.20. | 09:52 |
darkxst | hey flexiondotorg | 09:52 |
flexiondotorg | From previous experience, this will take some weeks to complete and won't be started until after the Fedora 24 release. | 09:52 |
flexiondotorg | Because I'll be working with MATE Fedora maintainers on this. | 09:53 |
darkxst | flexiondotorg, well there won't be a 3.20 transition until ubuntu themes are done | 09:53 |
darkxst | you say your patches will apply there also? | 09:54 |
flexiondotorg | But Ambiant-MATE is 99% the same as AMbiance. So once we've done the GTK 3.20 work, merging to Ambiant should be trivial. | 09:54 |
flexiondotorg | I am happy to prepare a merge proposal for Ambiance. | 09:54 |
flexiondotorg | Although I've been asked to prepare Ambiance merge proposal 3 times in the past and they were all rejected. | 09:55 |
flexiondotorg | So I'll be seeking agreement to proceed before I work on a merge proposal this time around :-) | 09:55 |
flexiondotorg | Laney, seb128 Trevinho Ubuntu MATE added solid-csd support to Ambiant-MATE during 16.04. | 09:56 |
flexiondotorg | Is this something you'd be interested in for light-themes? | 09:56 |
flexiondotorg | I know there is a discussion about Compiz and GTK Frame Extents going on and not sure what path you're likely to take. | 09:57 |
darkxst | flexiondotorg, part of the problem is with larsu left, no one experienced with theming on the -desktop team | 09:58 |
flexiondotorg | I'm not experienced, but I know a man who is. | 09:59 |
flexiondotorg | Wolfgang Ulbrich, MATE developer, has a deep understanding of GTK theming and the difference between GTK version. | 09:59 |
darkxst | flexiondotorg, sponsors don't just upload random code they don't understand, well they shouldnt | 10:00 |
flexiondotorg | It is Wolfgang who will be doing to heavy lifting on this. He is a Fedora maintainer, which is why the start is delayed until after Fedora 24 is out. | 10:00 |
flexiondotorg | Wolfgang maintains all the upstream MATE themes. While I don't know all the intricacies and differences between theming GTK3 versions, I will be learning the ropes this cycle. | 10:01 |
andyrock | Morning all | 10:03 |
seb128 | hey andyrock, how are you? | 11:31 |
ximion | Laney: looking at https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/appstream-glib/+bug/1576780 would also be helpful :) - it's a low-priority bugfix, but one that's pretty helpful for 3rd-party rpo providers | 11:33 |
ubot5 | Ubuntu bug 1576780 in appstream-glib (Ubuntu) "Needs to implement the full DEP-11 icon spec for compatibility with 3rd-party repos" [Medium,Fix committed] | 11:33 |
Trevinho | flexiondotorg: I could have a look to that... | 11:34 |
Laney | mmm | 11:34 |
Laney | I'm doing sponsoring tomorrow | 11:34 |
Laney | so will look then | 11:34 |
Trevinho | flexiondotorg: in case unity is running with its own decorations, we also add a class to the window (unity-csd), that could help you in ensuring that your css rules aren't applied when unity is running | 11:35 |
flexiondotorg | Trevinho, Thanks. | 11:43 |
flexiondotorg | Although, the solid-csd stuff is required in some cases. For example, running deja dup that is shipped with Ubuntu 16.04. | 11:44 |
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andyrock | Hey seb128... Sorry lunch time | 12:39 |
andyrock | Tired | 12:39 |
andyrock | Busy weeken | 12:39 |
andyrock | Weekend | 12:39 |
seb128 | andyrock, no worry, was the same for me (lunch) | 12:39 |
andyrock | You? | 12:39 |
seb128 | oh | 12:39 |
seb128 | too much party-ing? ;-) | 12:40 |
seb128 | I was a bit tired this morning but juice, coffee, some food and I'm better now | 12:40 |
andyrock | Studying actually XD | 12:40 |
seb128 | I had a busy w.e as well, had to drove around to pick up furnitures and move those and it was quite warm | 12:40 |
andyrock | It s not fun when there are 20 degrees outside | 12:41 |
seb128 | yeah... | 12:42 |
seb128 | ximion, Laney, does https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/apt/+bug/1562733/comments/12 makes sense to you? | 13:36 |
ubot5 | Ubuntu bug 1562733 in apt (Ubuntu) "apt signature requierements prevent updates from some repositories" [High,In progress] | 13:36 |
Laney | seb128: does it make sense in what way? | 14:06 |
Laney | if you're asking about the Post-Invoke bit, you should talk to ximion | 14:06 |
seb128 | Laney, sorry fail to understand the question | 14:06 |
seb128 | "it might make sense to move the hook from APT::Update::Post-Invoke-Success to APT::Update::Post-Invoke so it runs even if the update errors" | 14:06 |
seb128 | I was asking if that makes sense to you | 14:07 |
seb128 | let me try to rephrase... | 14:07 |
seb128 | do you think the suggestion done there ^ is a logical one? | 14:07 |
seb128 | or something we should do | 14:07 |
Laney | I think two things | 14:13 |
seb128 | Laney, I guess you reply means you have no opinion on using Post-Invoke-Success vs Post-Invoke then, let's wait for ximion | 14:13 |
Laney | thing one is that ximion said there was some reason to not prefer it | 14:14 |
Laney | thing two is that it isn't actually as unconditional as it sounds | 14:14 |
Laney | E: Some index files failed to download. They have been ignored, or old ones used instead. | 14:14 |
Laney | laney@raleigh> ~ | 14:14 |
Laney | I added an echo 'hello' in there | 14:14 |
Laney | no echo | 14:14 |
seb128 | using Post-Invoke? | 14:15 |
Laney | yes | 14:16 |
seb128 | k | 14:16 |
seb128 | Laney, thanks for the input, and sorry for the question not being clear and for being grumpy when you said so, I'm going to try to be more specific next time :-) | 14:17 |
Laney | I just didn't know which part of his reply you were asking about | 14:18 |
Laney | Post-Invoke works with W: but not E: AFAICT | 14:18 |
seb128 | Laney, sorry, I overlooked that the comment started with the apt fix merge ... I wouldn't have pinged you about that since it seems Julian is on it and I guess it would rather be a mvo/infinity thing to comment on | 14:19 |
seb128 | I should have asked on #ubuntu-devel | 14:24 |
seb128 | Laney, juliank confirms what you said | 14:24 |
Laney | np | 14:25 |
Laney | I commented on it | 14:25 |
seb128 | thanks | 14:26 |
Laney | sorry my internet is shitting up | 14:31 |
Laney | I hope that launchpad is going to let me re-submit that comment | 14:33 |
Laney | oh it did work | 14:33 |
seb128 | it did yes | 14:33 |
mitya57 | larsu, hi, could you please take a look at bug 1502476? Looks like the patch to add menu on Unity broke it on many other desktops… | 14:57 |
ubot5 | bug 1502476 in totem (Ubuntu) "Totem menubar is displayed in fullscreen mode during gnome-flaskback session" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1502476 | 14:57 |
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larsu | mitya57: interesting case... there's nothing unity specific about this patch | 16:17 |
larsu | all it does is enable a traditional menu bar | 16:17 |
larsu | which unity pulls out into the global one | 16:17 |
larsu | but other desktops don't | 16:18 |
larsu | and there's no way to access the menu bar widget from totem, because gtk manages the menu | 16:18 |
larsu | desrt: what do you think about this ^? Should totem unset "show-menubar" when it goes into fullscreen? | 16:19 |
larsu | that probably breaks the global menu, though | 16:19 |
willcooke | hey larsu :) | 16:26 |
larsu | hi willcooke! How are you? | 16:26 |
willcooke | hot!! | 16:26 |
larsu | I know that! | 16:26 |
larsu | ;) | 16:26 |
willcooke | ohhhhhh, you | 16:26 |
seb128 | hey larsu :-) | 16:31 |
seb128 | willcooke, well, at least your line didn't melt down like Laney's ;-) | 16:31 |
willcooke | ha! | 16:31 |
larsu | haha | 16:31 |
larsu | bon soir seb128! | 16:31 |
Laney | all those bits flowing | 16:31 |
seb128 | larsu, how are you? enjoy the sunny weather has well? | 16:32 |
seb128 | oh, Laney haz bits! | 16:32 |
larsu | yes! Really really nice | 16:32 |
Laney | yeah I've been hiding | 16:32 |
larsu | hi Laney! | 16:32 |
Laney | trying to make lightdm test mode work | 16:32 |
Laney | #fail | 16:32 |
Laney | hey larsu! | 16:32 |
seb128 | :-/ | 16:32 |
Laney | what go | 16:32 |
larsu | seb128: coreos is having a conference here and there are lots of nerds around :) | 16:33 |
seb128 | I though robert_ancell was keeping an eye on that | 16:33 |
seb128 | no cookie for him! | 16:33 |
seb128 | larsu, nice :-) | 16:33 |
Laney | does it work for you? | 16:33 |
Laney | lightdm --test-mode | 16:33 |
seb128 | no :-/ | 16:36 |
seb128 | complains that it can't delete /var/lib/lightdm-data/lightdm | 16:36 |
seb128 | though that doesn't seem to be what makes it fail | 16:38 |
seb128 | the greeter segfaults? | 16:38 |
seb128 | it says it sig | 16:38 |
seb128 | sig11 | 16:38 |
seb128 | so yeah, bad robert_ancell, no cookie! | 16:39 |
Laney | I see that too | 16:39 |
* larsu quietly hands robert_ancell a cookie | 16:39 | |
* Laney has a .crash | 16:39 | |
larsu | (but don't tell seb!) | 16:39 |
Laney | #0 0x00007ffa84b7fd16 in strlen () at ../sysdeps/x86_64/strlen.S:106 | 16:40 |
Laney | #1 0x00007ffa831d4204 in keyring_daemon_op (pwd=pwd@entry=0x7ffa84ebade0 <resbuf>, addr=addr@entry=0x7ffd01e905d0, op=op@entry=1, argc=argc@entry=1, argv=argv@entry=0x7ffd01e90990) at pam/gkr-pam-client.c:336 | 16:40 |
Laney | #2 0x00007ffa831d47c8 in gkr_pam_client_run_operation (pwd=pwd@entry=0x7ffa84ebade0 <resbuf>, control=<optimised out>, op=op@entry=1, argc=argc@entry=1, argv=argv@entry=0x7ffd01e90990) at pam/gkr-pam-client.c:428 | 16:40 |
Laney | #3 0x00007ffa831d587b in unlock_keyring (ph=<optimised out>, pwd=0x7ffa84ebade0 <resbuf>, password=0x0, need_daemon=0x7ffd01e909d4) at pam/gkr-pam-module.c:643 | 16:40 |
larsu | Laney's password is 0x0! | 16:41 |
Laney | hax! | 16:41 |
Laney | ok I fixed that, easy | 17:18 |
Laney | see you! | 17:18 |
willcooke | see ya Laney | 17:20 |
willcooke | sheesh, Chrome just noms alllllll the GBs | 17:21 |
davmor2 | larsu: no it's pi and who knew it ended well done Laney on that one :D | 17:22 |
davmor2 | willcooke: so does chromium and firefox although FF likes to eat you cpu too :D | 17:22 |
willcooke | Chromium wasn't as bad as this IMO | 17:23 |
willcooke | having to use Chrome beacuse my sign in is broken for me | 17:23 |
davmor2 | willcooke: no idea why it would work in one but not another unless you url cache got corrupted maybe, were you using 2 ids maybe? | 17:26 |
willcooke | gnight gang | 19:01 |
qengho | Hi hi. I found a Pandaboard on my bookshelf yesterday. I'm interested in putting some contemporary Ubuntu on it. I found some installer files, but the docs are pretty sparse and/or wrong. I'm technical and accustomed to other architectures. Help? | 19:19 |
qengho | http://ports.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-ports/dists/xenial/main/installer-armhf/current/images/generic/netboot/pandaboard/ | 19:19 |
qengho | That has two "img"s. One MLO. Some uImage and uInitrd. I suspect some of those are published, yet used to generate some larger IMG files, and why published is a mystery to me. | 19:21 |
qengho | I tried DDing the boot.img-fb to a SD card. No boot. | 19:22 |
sarnold | qengho: my pandaboard is currently running precise; I installed using the omap4 preinstalled desktop image http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/precise/release/ | 19:25 |
sarnold | qengho: .. one of these days I'm going to do-release-upgrade the thing | 19:25 |
sarnold | qengho: if you can't find any better docs, that route may work out alright | 19:26 |
flocculant | sarnold qengho : I had precise on one a while back, I did manage to get it upgraded iirc | 19:27 |
flocculant | (don't use it now) | 19:27 |
qengho | sarnold: This most specific, accurate species "OMAP4"? | 19:28 |
qengho | Er, IS this the most... | 19:28 |
sarnold | qengho: I've forgotten much of what I used to know -- I -think- that "omap4" describes all the pandaboards. I have a pandaboard ES. I can't remember if that "ES" is an important detail now :) | 19:29 |
qengho | PandaBoard ES Rev. B2, which has "OMAP4460" processor. | 19:30 |
qengho | 4460 // 1000 == 4 | 19:30 |
* qengho shrugs. | 19:30 | |
qengho | Okay. Trying it. | 19:30 |
mitya57 | larsu, I hate suggesting that, but maybe wrap some code in that patch to if (unity) { ... }? | 19:37 |
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