[00:00] <Almaterrador> I am supposed to tell what value the variable i takes in every iteration of for
[00:01] <eelstrebor> squinty, that's not my issue with interface names even though i noticed ethX is no longer used
[00:01] <k1l> Almaterrador: if that is a homework #bash might be better suited for fundamental understanding on for; do statements.
[00:01] <Almaterrador> oh I see
[00:02] <Almaterrador> yes it is homewor
[00:02] <Almaterrador> I'll go to that channel
[00:02] <Almaterrador> thancs
[00:04] <heppo> hey #ubuntu, I really messed up with my attempt at dual booting with Windows 10 UEFI. I enabled legacy boot and installed from that, and I think my current ubuntu install is BIOS booting too since efibootmgr says efi variables are not supported on this system
[00:05] <heppo> So Ubuntu boots just fine from GRUB, but WIndows has some kind of problem when I try to boot to it
[00:05] <Majora320> what problem?
[00:05] <heppo> I think grub is booting Windows in BIOS mode: is there any way to fix this?
[00:06] <Codfection> why u chose to go with legacy instead of UEFI?
[00:06] <heppo> so I could boot the flash drive basically
[00:06] <heppo> I set it up in the bios that it would legacy boot, and failing that UEFI boot (to windows 10)
[00:07] <heppo> however, I am now unsure I can access the BIOS settings!
[00:07] <heppo> I'm using a new Ideapad and I can only find instructions to get into the bios by advanced rebooting into Windows
[00:08] <Codfection> why would u wanna dual boot.. instead of installing ubuntu only
[00:08] <Codfection> and running windows in vm
[00:08] <Majora320> faster
[00:08] <heppo> but my video games!
[00:08] <Majora320> ^^^
[00:08] <Codfection> so just use windows
[00:08] <Codfection> and use ubuntu in vm
[00:09] <Majora320> faster
[00:09] <k1l> Codfection: dualboot is not an issue.
[00:09] <heppo> alternatively, I am also wondering if there is a way for Ubuntu to trigger a boot into the UEFI firmware
[00:15] <heppo> looks like a simple attempt at fixing this is to install grub-efi
[00:16] <heppo> I'm going down for a reboot now: let's hope it'll work
[00:20] <kittykitty> back again about my gpt stuff. Just trying to use testdisk now to set the right FS on the disk. Windows sees the disk as raw too now
[00:22] <kittykitty> also rn, testdisk is filling swap but i still have 7gb of ram, what on earth is it doing??
[00:39] <deezed> Hello guys! I was trying to install bumblebee here by running 'sudo apt-get install bumblebee bumblebee-nvidia primus linux-headers-generic' and then reboot. But when I rebooted my startx wasnt loading. Then I logged in on tty1 and run a 'dpkg-reconfigure -a'. Now I got my startx to work, but everything is really big, it seems that my video card is completly miss-configured. Can anybody help me?
[00:42] <heppo> oh no, I've really messed up with this dual booting thing
[00:42] <simtexx> I tried to install perrblock and failed... what is another decent peer2peer blocker?
[00:43] <simtexx> oh and am i able to run tmac on ubuntu?
[00:43] <heppo> I tried following the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEFI#Converting_Ubuntu_into_UEFI_or_Legacy_mode to convert my legacy boot into UEFI boot
[00:44] <heppo> by firmware is set to try legacy boot first, then UEFI boot
[00:44] <heppo> however, boot-repair aborted the operation because I was not booting in EFI mode
[00:45] <heppo> So it seems I'm stuck with legacy-boot ubuntu
[00:45] <heppo> Does anyone know how to install an EFI boot ubuntu fron Legacy boot?
[00:46] <deezed> Hey guys, my video settings are really messed up after installing bumblebee. Does anyone know what can I do?
[00:46] <simtexx> Does anyone know if i can install tmac on ubuntu and also what is another decent peer2peer blocking programm?
[00:49] <heppo> is there any command to access the UEFI firmware settings?
[00:54] <Bashing-om> heppo: efibootmgr might help .
[00:55] <heppo> I installed efibootmgr
[00:55] <heppo> "EFI variables are not supported on this system"
[00:55] <WoodyPC> I  opened the Additional Drivers tab and there are 5 different drivers there for my Asus Geforce 8400 1GB video card. One of them is the "open source" driver I am already using. I tried the rest of them and they work great. Except When I reboot or shut down the computer. At that time the screen with ubuntu logo and 4 dot that highlight and some kind of shutdown text. Says things are shutting...
[00:55] <WoodyPC> ...down. Just curious, But is this something I need to worry about?
[00:56] <heppo> so my problem is how to convert (if it's even possible to do so) to a UEFI Ubuntu from an EFI Ubuntu
[00:56] <heppo> *from A BIOS Ubuntu
[00:56] <heppo> sorry
[00:57] <gruviovifo> I did what was adviced here but it didn't work; http://askubuntu.com/questions/17647/target-filesystem-doesnt-have-requested-sbin-init
[00:57] <Bashing-om> heppo: That ^ to me indicates you are not booted in EFI mode, or maybe the install is not EFI ??
[00:57] <heppo> Correct
[00:58] <mcphail> WoodyPC: If you use the proprietary drivers, you'll get horrible text rather than nice graphical logo on startup and shutdown. Don't worry about it
[00:58] <heppo> what I'm trying to do is get it to do is convert it to UEFI from within the legacy mode it is currently in
[00:58] <gruviovifo> when i go on the file manager and try to mount I get the following:  mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/sda2, missing codepage or helper program or other error
[00:59] <WoodyPC> mcphail: Is that text, Ubuntu loading and unloading the proprietary drivers?
[00:59] <gruviovifo> http://pastebin.com/ZYi1MArm
[01:00] <mcphail> WoodyPC: no. The proprietary driver doesn't do kernel modesetting yet, so isn't compatible with Plymouth in graphical mode. It looks ugly, but hey ho
[01:02] <WoodyPC> mcphail: So my shutdown just looks funky using the proprietary drivers. it is not going to crash my system, right?
[01:02] <mcphail> WoodyPC: it shouldn't do any harm at all
[01:04] <WoodyPC> mcphail: ok..Just wondering. It only happens when I use the proprietary drivers. The open source doesn't do that. That is why I switched back to them, just to be on the safe side.
[01:04] <gruviovifo> http://pastebin.com/ftqHAKik this is not working, remove dirty bit
[01:06] <gruviovifo> http://pastebin.com/bUEC5yFY
[01:08] <mcphail> WoodyPC: apparently the newest nvidia driver supports kernel modesetting. I don't know if it supports your card, and would suggest you stick with the open source drivers or the default repository proprietary drivers
[01:09] <WoodyPC> mcphail: okey dokey. Thanks
[01:18] <gruviovifo> help I can't mount on boot up
[01:18] <gruviovifo> http://pastebin.com/rSDysUZk
[01:21] <Bashing-om> gruviovifo: " The util fdisk doesn't support GPT. Use GNU Parted. "  Else install gdisk. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1439794 .
[01:21] <book_> my boys any of you familiar with plex and ubuntu permissions
[01:22] <gruviovifo> Bashing-om, what does that mean? it had never given me that output before
[01:22] <gruviovifo> I am sorry, i am a newbie
[01:22] <yisus> hello
[01:22] <book_> I've got an mac os x journaled drive that can be read by my ubuntu machine however when I open plex to find my media it see's the attached drive but is unable to navigate further to access contents of drive
[01:23] <debidi> book_: permissions issue?
[01:23] <book_> thats what i thought I've edited the nano file to give plex access
[01:24] <book_> still nothing I've read something about fstab
[01:24] <Bashing-om> gruviovifo: 'fdisk' is for the legacy partitioning , the new GPT partitioning requires a different tool . One such tool is 'gdisk' . similar to the old fdisk .
[01:24] <yisus> somebody knows visual basic?
[01:25] <yisus> an interpreter for visual basic? somebody knows about that?
[01:25] <book_> should i create a mount point? really unsure about this really hoping to get this fixed
[01:26] <gruviovifo> Bashing-om, I am sorry but I am unclear as to what I am supposed to do, sudo-apt get gdisk ?
[01:26] <debidi> yisus: like the one integrated w/ openoffice ?
[01:26] <book_> unfortunately the drive was portioned to OS X journaled a while ago and it already full of media
[01:27] <sundavenom> hello
[01:27] <FManTropyx> hi
[01:27] <sundavenom> i'm from indonesia
[01:27] <FManTropyx> ok
[01:27] <sundavenom> where are you from?
[01:28] <sundavenom> i'm bad in english
[01:28] <book_> nice dude
[01:28] <Bashing-om> gruviovifo: What is the issie you need to mess with the partitions ? And ' sudo apt install gdisk ; is the correct syntax .
[01:28] <gruviovifo> Bashing-om, when I boot up it doesnt mount
[01:28] <gruviovifo> I  get Target filesystem doesn't have requested /sbin/init
[01:29] <gruviovifo> this doesn't work either http://askubuntu.com/questions/17647/target-filesystem-doesnt-have-requested-sbin-init
[01:30] <Bashing-om> gruviovifo: File system error ? ... What is the exact circumstance and the errors provided ? Maybe a file system check repair is in order ?
[01:30] <MannyLNJ> Evening. I need to create a VPN into home so I can read ebooks that calibre pulls down. I've found quite a few different guides but don't understand them. Anyone willing to walk me through this?
[01:33] <gruviovifo> Bashing-om, mount: mounting on /sys on /root/sys failed: No such file or directory mount: mounting /proc on /root/proc failed: No such fileor directory No initi found Try passing init = bootarg
[01:34] <Bashing-om> gruviovifo: Yeah ,, be good to see what the hard drives are partitioned as .. are you dual booting ? How many hard drives ? Terminal commad ' sudo parted -l ' will suffice for this info .
[01:35] <Bashing-om> command*
[01:35] <gruviovifo> Bashing-om, http://pastebin.com/aK8FckFb
[01:36] <FredTheNoob> Hi there, I think have little problem, have 2 version of the same pkg: gnome-control-center on Ubuntu 16.04, happends that I can access both, new one by command line, old one by GUI desktop menu... I want to get newest by default... I'd tried this tutorial http://www.webupd8.org/2016/03/use-gnome-318-google-drive-integration.html .. thks guys
[01:41] <Bashing-om> gruviovifo: That shows a single hard drive of 1000GB, with only ubuntu installed . A EFI system .. and I have no experience with EFI. I would think however if grub were re-installed would resolve your problem .
[01:41] <gruviovifo> Bashing-om, great! how do I do that if i cannot boot without livecd?
[01:43] <Bashing-om> gruviovifo: You re-install grub from that liveDVD . Others here will have to direct that action . I do not have the experience to be comfortable to advise .
[01:43] <gruviovifo> ok
[01:46] <Bashing-om> gruviovifo: Eric^^ is our current EFI guru .. not online at this time .. wait and see who else responds . A prod each half hour is acceptable .
[01:46] <gruviovifo> Bashing-om, thank you man, I appreciate it, it was quite upsetting to suddenly not be able to boot up
[01:48] <Bashing-om> gruviovifo: Have heart . Situation does not look dire .. and maybe even re-installing grub is overboard. Those who know will advise the better .
[01:50] <gruviovifo> Bashing-om, thank you :)
[01:54] <smellsLikeGoatSp> Hi, I have a very n008 question. I found a client-server tcp tutorial. I tested it using a raspberry pi running ubuntu mate as a server. IP address of local internet. I mean to use it while connected only via ethernet. what would be the ip in that case? I am sorry if I did not phrase it very correctly
[01:55] <blaster> smellsLikeGoatSp, for a public IP, it depends on the network it's connecting to.
[01:56] <MannyLNJ> smellsLikeGoatSp, are asking for the internal IP address of ETH0 or thre public ip?
[01:56] <blaster> Are the client and server on the same network?
[01:59] <gl1tch> smellsLikeGoatSp <<< 127.0.0.1 is this local internet?
[01:59] <edmen> Cuando intento instalar un programa utilizando pacman no va a funcionar
[01:59] <MannyLNJ> edmen please post in english here.
[02:00] <smellsLikeGoatSp> MannyLNJ: probably internal at this point
[02:00] <OerHeks> ifconfig | grep inet # this will show you your network ip and more
[02:01] <smellsLikeGoatSp> gl1tch: I used 127.0.0.1 but did not work
[02:01] <smellsLikeGoatSp> this is where I code the code from: http://www.cs.rpi.edu/~moorthy/Courses/os98/Pgms/socket.html
[02:01] <MannyLNJ> smellsLikeGoatSp, then iyt's the IP asigned to ETH0 you can do ifconfig to find it]
[02:03] <Dreamer_Laptop> MATE is amazing on my laptop!
[02:03] <mezzidossantos> any one know where i can get smtps?
[02:04] <Rhorse> Dreamer_Laptop: Can you post some links to screenshots for us?
[02:06] <Rhorse> mezzidossantos: I think you want the package smmtp....
[02:07] <smellsLikeGoatSp> MannyLNJ: so something like b8:27:eb:09:b2:61
[02:07] <MannyLNJ> smellsLikeGoatSp, THat would be an IPV6 address we want the IPV4
[02:08] <OerHeks> mezzidossantos, Why enable SMTPS since it's depreciated? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SMTPS
[02:08] <Dreamer_Laptop> Rhorse, it's a fresh install, so it's the initial desktop, I will get around to personalizing
[02:08] <Dreamer_Laptop> :)
[02:09] <smellsLikeGoatSp> MannyLNJ: Link encap:Local Loopback        inetaddr:127.0.0.1  Mask:255.0.0.0 ?
[02:09] <mezzidossantos> no no i need smtp servers for mass mailing
[02:10] <MannyLNJ> No not loopback smellsLikeGoatSp
[02:10] <MannyLNJ> somthing like eth0      Link encap:Ethernet  HWaddr 00:23:5a:06:d5:21         inet addr:192.168.1.104  Bcast:192.168.1.255  Mask:255.255.255.0
[02:12] <smellsLikeGoatSp> MannyLNJ: line after HWaddr X:XX:XX:XX:XX:XX goes " inet6 addr: fe80:: [...] "
[02:12] <smellsLikeGoatSp> MannyLNJ: bear in mind that all I did at this stage was connecting my laptop to the pi with an ethernet cable
[02:12] <MannyLNJ> smellsLikeGoatSp, if you don't have an IPV4 address I  am out of my league and can't help.
[02:12] <Rhorse> Dreamer_Laptop: how does it differ from Unity?
[02:13] <fenix_peregrino> hellow guys, does someone know how to flash my BIOS or update its software?
[02:13] <smellsLikeGoatSp> MannyLNJ: I believe one can ssh into a pi using an ethernet connection. I remember I could never figure out how to establish the address. clearly this is not my area of competence. thanks for the help!
[02:15] <ch_> hellou andf herlp... my keryboaerdf
[02:15] <ch_> it cverazy
[02:15] <ch_>  how imaker dfoer cvhanger this dferom terminal?
[02:17] <OerHeks> fenix_peregrino, depends on what brand/type machine, did you check the vendor homepage?
[02:17] <OerHeks> and your manual?
[02:17] <Bashing-om> ch_: Try : ' sudo dpkg-reconfigure keyboard-configuration ' .
[02:17]  * squinty wonders what use a terminal is going to do when it relies on a working keyboard in the first place?
[02:18] <Bashing-om> squarecircle: Yeah ,, there is that ... hummmm
[02:18] <fenix_peregrino> OerHeks: not yet; the only reason I want to do this is because I have a weird lost of 200MB on my RAM. I don´t know why
[02:18] <edmen> Is it possible to get ubuntu with KDE
[02:18] <ch_> Bashing-om: itery thanks...
[02:18] <fenix_peregrino> OerHeks: I have 6000MB of RAM and when I put the details on Ubuntu it says I have 5.8. Why is the reason of this?
[02:19] <Bashing-om> ch_: A keyboard app indicator icon in the top panel ?
[02:19] <mezzidossantos> ji
[02:19] <mezzidossantos> i need smtp
[02:19] <OerHeks> fenix_peregrino, oh oke, onboard video can take some ram
[02:19] <OerHeks> looks like your gpu used 256 mb
[02:19] <kawhi> hi i can't extract rar files. when i try to install unrar or rar it gives me a no installation candidate error
[02:19] <MannyLNJ> Evening. I need to create a VPN into home so I can read ebooks that calibre pulls down. I've found quite a few different guides but don't understand them. Anyone willing to walk me through this?
[02:20] <zykotick9> fenix_peregrino: you also might want to check the difference between "free -m" and "free -k"...
[02:20] <fenix_peregrino> OerHeks: I thought of that. How can I check this?, I mean in fact I would like to eliminate the actual graphic driver cause online games such as Dota2 have FPS lag all the time.
[02:21] <fenix_peregrino> zykotick9: what do you mean?, how can I check the difference
[02:21] <OerHeks> fenix_peregrino, see zykotick9 answer
[02:21] <fenix_peregrino> zykotick9: I don't know the commands
[02:21] <OerHeks> perform both commands, and paste the output on paste.ubuntu.com and share the url
[02:22] <OerHeks> "free -m" and "free -k"
[02:22] <zykotick9> fenix_peregrino: sorry.  those are the commands, the stuff in the quotes...
[02:22] <ch_> Bashing-om: i cvan't
[02:22] <fenix_peregrino> zykotick9: Oh lol, sorry for the ignorance
[02:22] <zykotick9> fenix_peregrino: i'm just trying to point out, the "free -k" _might_ be closer to your actual ram size...
[02:24] <fenix_peregrino> zykotick9: this is the output: http://pastebin.com/5a7mwNVY
[02:25] <zykotick9> fenix_peregrino: thank... i feel bad about this, but sorry i don't actually go to pastebin.com you might consider paste.ubuntu.com in the future ;)  but it's up to you.  best of luck.
[02:25] <squinty> kawhi: make sure you have the multiverse repo ticked on
[02:25] <kawhi> squinty: it is i even did apt-get update for good measure
[02:25] <jadenpete> Who wants a laugh? I was experimenting with xwinwrap... https://youtu.be/QnRh6CS6hLc
[02:25] <fenix_peregrino> zykotick9: ok no problem, give me a sec. Sorry, why is this?; does pastebin.com has viruses or something like that?
[02:26] <OerHeks> fenix_peregrino, you pasted 2 x free -m
[02:27] <zykotick9> fenix_peregrino: if you're interested, i pasted #debian's pastebin.com factoid to http://paste.ubuntu.com/16314239/
[02:27] <Bashing-om> ch_: " Bashing-om> ch_: A keyboard app indicator icon in the top panel ?" .
[02:27] <fenix_peregrino> zykotick9: https://paste.ubuntu.com/16314241/
[02:27] <squinty> kawhi,  strange    just installed unrar here without any problems on 16.04
[02:28] <zykotick9> fenix_peregrino: and the "free -k" shows 6G of ram ;)
[02:28] <kawhi> squinty: i'll try ticking and unticking the multiverse and apt-get update again and see if it changes anything
[02:28] <Ben64> zykotick9: no it doesn't
[02:29] <zykotick9> Ben64: ok, it shows 6056828 k
[02:29] <squinty> kawhi,  or try another server
[02:29] <fenix_peregrino> zykotick9: yes I noticed that. Its weird, I dont know why when I put "Details" it says 5.8 of RAM; I would like that all the RAM could be use when playing online games, is this possible?
[02:29] <Ben64> zykotick9: yep, which is 5914MB
[02:29] <Ben64> fenix_peregrino: it's because things are taking your ram, like the kernel and other bits. don't worry
[02:29] <kawhi> squinty: did you use a local server or the main server?
[02:30] <zykotick9> Ben64: which is what you'd expect from 6GB of RAM?!?!  my 8GB shows as 7968m, i'm not calling the manufacturer ;)
[02:30] <fenix_peregrino> Ben64: oh now I understand, thank you very much. So it isn't a virus or any weird stuff?
[02:30] <Ben64> zykotick9: no. 6GB of ram is exactly and only 6144MB
[02:31] <Ben64> fenix_peregrino: nope, totally normal
[02:31] <fenix_peregrino> Ben64: perfect, thanks!
[02:31] <squinty> kawhi, canadian.
[02:31] <OerHeks> fenix_peregrino, i have 6 gb too, but different hardware ofcourse .. http://paste.ubuntu.com/16314264/
[02:31] <kawhi> squinty: okay thanks for the heads up
[02:32] <squinty> kawhi,  might also want to take a quick peek at /etc/apt/sources.list to see if multiverse is there
[02:32] <squinty> kawhi, yw
[02:32] <fenix_peregrino> OerHeks: perfect, I just was worried that something a little bit more complex was using that 200 MB of RAM
[02:32] <kawhi> squinty: just did that too and it is right there so maybe it's a server thing
[02:33] <fenix_peregrino> OerHeks: in that case I should probably flash my BIOS but I dont know how lol
[02:33] <squinty> kawhi, sure sounds like it
[02:35] <ch_> Bashing-om: not woerk dfoer mer, it cvondfigueraterdf in spanish but weritre in this dfoerm.. hoereriblre..
[02:36] <ch_> Bashing-om: i vcant wierter in ther tererminal
[02:36] <MannyLNJ> Evening. I need to create a VPN into home so I can read ebooks that calibre pulls down. I've found quite a few different guides but don't understand them. Anyone willing to walk me through this?
[02:36] <Ben64> MannyLNJ: why vpn
[02:37] <MannyLNJ> Ben64, calibre can only share to the local network
[02:38] <tekisui> ni hao
[02:39] <Ben64> MannyLNJ: that can't be true
[02:40] <MannyLNJ> Ben64, I have not found an option to work outside the local network
[02:40] <Ben64> you need to open a port for it
[02:43] <MannyLNJ> Ben64, do you know what port because I know only of 8080 which you use for it's GUI but if I want to import into my kindle app it will only work over the local network
[02:44] <Ben64> don't know the port
[02:49] <basil2x>  waves from upstairs.
[02:49] <mrabhi> any suggestions to this question http://askubuntu.com/questions/768853/e-unable-to-fetch-some-archives-maybe-run-apt-get-update-or-try-with-fix-mis
[02:50] <fenix_peregrino> guys does someone know why I have frame per second lagging when playing video games?
[02:51] <ipatrol> ok, I clearly have a major problem
[02:51] <ipatrol> how do I force ntfsresize to shrink a filesystem so I can install Ubuntu on it? No, I can
[02:51] <ipatrol> 't run chkdsk in Windows, because that OS has evidently failed
[02:52] <Ben64> ipatrol: that's the only sure way
[02:52] <ipatrol> Ben64: ok, out of the question, as I just said
[02:52] <ipatrol> Windows just blue screens immediately
[02:52] <Ben64> well it's the only sure way, as I just said
[02:53] <ipatrol> Ben64: if I just said it's not possible, it's pointless to repeat it
[02:53] <ipatrol> what
[02:53] <ipatrol> 's an unsure way then?
[02:53] <Ben64> by running ntfsfix, but you might lose data or the partition or something
[02:54] <ipatrol> Ben64: I ran it, and it didn't fix the problem
[02:54] <Ben64> then you know what you need to do
[02:54] <ipatrol> apparently 128 nodes are double-referenced
[02:54] <ipatrol> Ben64: no, I don't
[02:54] <Guest25244> hola
[02:54] <Ben64> you need to run chkdsk
[02:54] <basil2x> If the Windows OS has failed, shouldn't you rescue your data and strat from scratch anyway?
[02:55] <tekisui> format c:/u
[02:55] <ipatrol> Ben64: saying the same thing over and over again isn't going to make it happen
[02:55] <Ben64> i'm just telling you the fact
[02:55] <ipatrol> Ben64: and I'm saying if you don
[02:55] <ipatrol> '
[02:55] <basil2x> If you have rescue disk from Windows, you can run chkdsk from that.
[02:55] <ipatrol> t have any useful advice, don't give useless advice
[02:56] <ipatrol> basil2x: I don't
[02:56] <Ben64> it's the ONLY way, getting all uppity isn't going to help
[02:56] <anonymous_> hola
[02:56] <ipatrol> it's an old computer that I've been tasked with extending its life by using Linux
[02:56] <basil2x> Right.  Rescue your data and start from scratch.
[02:56] <ipatrol> Ben64: then your answer should be "it's not possible"
[02:57] <Ben64> just wipe the drive and install linux, done
[02:58] <basil2x> If your Windows is hosed, where's the point leaving it there?
[02:58] <ipatrol> Ben64: it's not my machine
[02:59] <ipatrol> basil2x: for all I know it might be fixable, but it's not functional at this moment
[02:59] <Ben64> then join ##windows for help with that
[03:00] <ipatrol> Ben64: I have not the time, nor the authority to do that. The owner asked to install Ubuntu, and that's what I intend to do
[03:00] <anonymous_> UNA pregunta al usar instalar linux, em una particion del disco no se borra el otro sistea operativo
[03:00] <Ben64> yet you're not installing ubuntu
[03:01] <ipatrol> Ben64: I need to resize the partition so I can install Lubuntu in it
[03:01] <Ben64> it's broken, you refuse to attempt to fix it, so you need to decide what you're going to do
[03:01] <Ben64> give up, or do something
[03:01] <basil2x> !sp anonymous_
[03:01] <basil2x> Or not.
[03:01] <ipatrol> Ben64: I'm not refusing, I'm saying it's not literally possible
[03:01] <Ben64> !es | anonymous_
[03:01] <Ben64> ipatrol: not with that attitude
[03:02] <ipatrol> Ben64: is there any way to force ntfsresize to do what I want, even at the risk of data loss?
[03:02] <Ben64> why not just delete the partition then
[03:03] <basil2x> Did you even try 'ntfsresize --help' ?
[03:03] <anonymous_> aguante windows que se joda mac
[03:03] <ipatrol> Because I'm hoping to minimize data loss, the partition has the OS and the user's data
[03:03] <Ben64> yeah then you should fix it
[03:03] <anonymous_> morite ubuntu aguante windows
[03:04] <ipatrol> basil2x: after it first detected the error, it literally stopped working. As in, it just printed the version and exited.
[03:04] <ipatrol> I'm presuming it's supposed to do that
[03:04] <basil2x> There's a --force option
[03:04] <basil2x> But it's probably a VERY BAD IDEA to use it.
[03:05] <gl1tch> just mount the partition with a live distro and save all important files, and then reformat and re-install is what i would do
[03:05] <SQL> never a bad time to --force things
[03:05] <ipatrol> gl1tch: I'm downloading a Knoppix ISO right now to see what I can do
[03:06] <Ben64> you can do that from the ubuntu live
[03:06] <ipatrol> no, that failed to load
[03:06] <gl1tch> use rufus to make the usb
[03:06] <ipatrol> well, first the kubuntu USB failed to load, the Lubuntu liveCD did, but it doesn't have recovery tools
[03:07] <basil2x> Get the main release live.
[03:07] <basil2x> The sub releases are always a bit iffy, ime.
[03:07] <ipatrol> too bulky
[03:08] <basil2x> Bulky?  It fots on a DVD, or a 4GB USBthingy.
[03:08] <basil2x> fits*
[03:08] <ipatrol> no, RAM-wise
[03:08] <basil2x> RAMwise?
[03:09] <SQL> ramWISE!
[03:09] <ipatrol> I only have about 512M of RAM
[03:09] <basil2x> For truly tiny RAM, Puppy linux might be your only option.
[03:09] <ipatrol> a possibility
[03:09] <basil2x> Pain in the bum distro, but operated in very little RAM.
[03:09] <ipatrol> though 512 should be enough for a light Ubuntu
[03:09] <ipatrol> *512M
[03:10] <basil2x> Possibly, but if you want it to do more than boot and look pretty.....
[03:10] <ipatrol> lol
[03:11] <ipatrol> I've used Puppy before, but when I suggested that to the owner, he said he tried, and didn't much care for it
[03:11] <SQL> I've run Debian VM's with as little as 128Mb
[03:12] <SQL> 512 should be PLENTY for light buntu
[03:12] <basil2x> And did they do anything fun?  Or just sit there?
[03:12] <r3_> anyone know of a good GPS module for raspberry pi?
[03:13] <SQL> basil2x: both were nameservers
[03:13] <ipatrol> oh, that's trivial
[03:13] <Bashing-om> ipatrol: 512 gigs of ram is the lower limit for Lubuntu . The heavy wirght distros need 2 Gigs of ram for a good experience .
[03:13] <ipatrol> Bashing-om: megs, you mean
[03:13] <Bashing-om> weught*
[03:14] <basil2x> I'd imagine this person wants to do summat like use FireFawkes.
[03:14] <SQL> learn to love lynx I guess LOL
[03:14] <Bashing-om> ipatrol: Yeah .. sorru 512 megs .. for Lubuntu .
[03:14] <ipatrol> basil2x: He knows a lot about various Linux distros, but surprisingly, he wouldn't know bash scripting if it hit him in the face
[03:15] <ipatrol> or for that matter, that the shell is even called bash
[03:15] <gl1tch> what's a good arch fork with installer other then manjaro?
[03:15] <ipatrol> gl1tch: this isn't #arch
[03:15] <ipatrol> !arch | gl1tch
[03:15] <gl1tch> ok
[03:15] <basil2x> Right.  Then he's going to want summat he can just jump in and use.
[03:16] <basil2x> HaikuOS?  It supposedly can use as little as 32MB RAM.
[03:16] <basil2x> Nut it's reeley uglee.
[03:17] <ipatrol> well, he likes Ubuntu, and I suggested Lubuntu and he agreed
[03:18] <basil2x> You might, just possibly, get by with a large enough SWAP
[03:18] <basil2x> But be prepared to wait simply ages for aught to happen.
[03:19] <ipatrol> he knows it's an old computer, I don't think he's expecting a miracle
[03:19] <ipatrol> I downloaded the minimal Lubuntu ISO and I have it on disk
[03:19] <basil2x> Well, I'm thinking he's gonna expect better than limping.
[03:19] <ipatrol> *a disc
[03:20] <gl1tch> he could try i3 WM
[03:20] <ipatrol> basil2x: well, the more data I can recover, the more swap I can dedicate
[03:20] <basil2x> Can you mount the win partition in the live media?
[03:21] <basil2x> and save the data to a USB thingy?
[03:21] <ipatrol> basil2x: I only get a tiny ash shell from the installer, and no recovery tools
[03:22] <basil2x> Did you try a simple copy command?
[03:23] <basil2x> OH... it's the MINIMAL... nvm.
[03:23] <basil2x> You'll need a proper live DVD to do rescue.
[03:23] <ipatrol> basil2x: and I don't have the time right now to torrent an entire live DVD, plus, I don't think this computer has a DVD reader
[03:23] <basil2x> But then you can reboot and install from the minimal after the rescue, if you really want.
[03:24] <ipatrol> however, my Knoppix torrent just finished
[03:24] <basil2x> Knoppix might do for the rescue.
[03:24] <ipatrol> oh, wait, it does have a DVD player. Still, CDs are cheaper
[03:24] <basil2x> I'd recommend against trying to install it, though.  Proper hell, when I tried.
[03:26] <epicdiamonds> Does anyone know how to get a .desktop file to execute a shell script?
[03:26] <ipatrol> I don't intend to install it
[03:26] <ipatrol> epicdiamonds: sh /path/to/script
[03:26] <ipatrol> on the Exec line
[03:27] <ipatrol> and set the Terminal line to true
[03:27] <epicdiamonds> Ive tried that and it opens a terminal instantly and closes.
[03:27] <ipatrol> epicdiamonds: oh, you want it kept open
[03:28] <goans> hello
[03:28] <epicdiamonds> @ipatrol: Actually I just want it to execute the shell script and not require a terminal.
[03:28] <ipatrol> epicdiamonds: most shell scripts act oddly without a terminal
[03:29] <ipatrol> wait one min, brb
[03:31] <epicdiamonds> @ipatrol:I cant use the actual executable of the program I'm using because I have to specify portable libraries to it in the script.
[03:31] <goans> Here have nothing happy?
[03:31] <ipatrol> epicdiamonds: so it's a wrapper script
[03:32] <epicdiamonds> @ipatrol: have no idea what wrapper means but sure
[03:32] <ipatrol> you said it just exited, did you try running it in a terminal and seeing if it returned any errors?
[03:32] <epicdiamonds> @ipatrol: it executes fine in terminal
[03:34] <ipatrol> epicdiamonds: usually that means one or more programs in the shell script are expecting access to the standard streams, and don't handle it well when they've been closed
[03:35] <basil2x> RIP Reg Grundy :(
[03:35] <ipatrol> `nohup` can fix that sometimes
[03:35] <epicdiamonds> @ipatrol: Strange, I ended up just copying the libraries to the system so I could execute the executable
[03:36] <ipatrol> epicdiamonds: did you try for the exec line, "nohup sh /path/to/script"?
[03:36] <IngoPan> hi
[03:38] <Abe_> hello my nvidia driver (nvidia-352) that I install over on the "Additional Drivers" gives me a black screen after restart "I cannot go into tty anymore if I install this driver"... I have an nvidia prime setup :( hope somebody can help out http://paste.ubuntu.com/16314683/
[03:38] <ipatrol> !nvidia
[03:38] <epicdiamonds> @ipatrol: just tried and it does nothing.
[03:39] <ipatrol> epicdiamonds: when you run it in the terminal, does it return the shell to you immediately? or does it hold on to it until you close the program being wrapped?
[03:39] <epicdiamonds> @ipatrol: it holds until i close the app
[03:42] <ipatrol> epicdiamonds: and with no errors?
[03:42] <ipatrol> or other messages?
[03:43] <epicdiamonds> @ipatrol: it has messages
[03:43] <ipatrol> epicdiamonds: can you put them in a pastebin for us?
[03:43] <Rhorse> I've heard nvidia drivers don't play nice with any framebuffer. You can read this on the wiki iirc
[03:44] <epicdiamonds> @ipatrol: sure
[03:44] <epicdiamonds> @ipatrol: would the >> output them to a text file?
[03:45] <ipatrol> epicdiamonds: yeah, or you can copy them with ctrl-shift-c from the terminal and paste them
[03:47] <LayZphp> Does anybody know if there is an issue with php7 and mongodb?
[03:48] <epicdiamonds> @ipatrol: http://pastebin.com/YZZgU02Q
[03:49] <ipatrol> LayZphp: I recall someone saying that MongoDB isn't good for holding important data
[03:50] <LayZphp> ipatrol: Any reason why or a reference? MongoDB is kind of "in" right now...
[03:50] <ipatrol> epicdiamonds: try this line for Exec: nohup /path/to/script 2> /dev/null
[03:51] <ipatrol> LayZphp: some blog post I read, I wouldn't give it much credence though, since the writer is the author of a competing NoSQL system
[03:51] <epicdiamonds> @ipatrol: still won't launch
[03:51] <LayZphp> haha, nice. Thanks for the heads up tho. I'll look into it.. as I was considering it for some pretty important data.. .transaction history and such
[03:52] <ipatrol> epicdiamonds: try sh -c "nohup /path/to/script & 2> /dev/null"
[03:54] <kk_> dkfj
[03:54] <kk_> exit
[03:56] <epicdiamonds> @ipatrol: thx for helping, turns out it wasnt executing because i was using the "./" command and it wasnt able to find my executable if the script wasnt executed in its folder
[03:56] <kk_> hi
[03:59] <ipatrol> epicdiamonds: that was going to be my next question, if all the paths were absolute
[04:01] <epicdiamonds> @ipatrol: whats the difference between the ./ command and exec
[04:02] <LayZphp> So everything looks to like I have php7 installed (i'm on ubuntu 16) but when I run this composer command, its saying that I'm on 5.5.9. When I say php -v it spits out 7... any advice?
[04:02] <Ben64> epicdiamonds: ./ is the directory you're currently in
[04:02] <ipatrol> epicdiamonds: ./script.sh tells the shell to execute that script in a subshell
[04:03] <ipatrol> exec ./script.sh executes it in the same shell
[04:05] <epicdiamonds> @ipatrol: the last problem im running into is satisfying dependencies of library on certain distro's i try to run my portables on
[04:09] <ipatrol> ok, well, I really need to call it quits for the night. ciao
[04:20] <OerHeks>  
[04:20] <nik> hi
[04:22] <rew> I've been using Ubuntu since like 2013 so over 3 years now. 12.04 was my first Linux OS. i liked it alot. now i use 14.04 LTS. i love it. ive tried every flavor of ubuntu available and pretty much HATE all of them. they all have some quirks that just make them not worth it unless I was specifically needing that OS for some reason. then I would work these quirks kinks out. 16.04 is pretty bad so far. I hope canonical just put this OS out ahead of time and will go
[04:22] <rew> back and fix it as we get into the summer. for now im gonna have to spend all day today putting 14.04 LTS back onto all my systems. no hot soup for you.! no jk.
[04:24] <OerHeks> rew spend all day? ubuntu can be installed in 30 minutes.
[04:26] <rew> i have many many pc here its ok though i have nothing else to do// one thing i have is time./ OerHeks... other than that i have had nothing but a love affair with 14.04 LTS so no probs. i can use 14.04 for the next few years no worries at all.
[04:28] <rew> oh and one little thing./ i have so many pc here amd intel laptops home built towers etc. and i have found that Unetbootin works better in general than "startup disk creator". if that helps anyone idk/ just saying. also as far as persistence i just use <9999> as my value and for some reason that always works for me.
[04:29] <dreamon> yesterday I installed 16.04. It worked fine. in evening I i set notebook in standby. today I woke up from suspend. my mousepointer is gone. I can click on things but the mousepointer itself is hidden.
[04:31] <JMichaelX> is anyone else here experiencing problems with mame in 16.04? for me, games pause or lock up frequently
[04:34] <nik> hi
[04:35] <OerHeks> JMichaelX, i find 1 bug for mame, not sure this applies to you to https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/mame/+bug/1562705
[04:37] <OerHeks> hmm i don't think it is relevant at all, ftbfs failed to build from source
[04:45] <JMichaelX> OerHeks: i found this: http://mametesters.org/view.php?id=5898
[04:46] <JMichaelX> after reading that, i disabled multithreading (sadly) in my mame.ini, and everything seems to be woeking now
[04:46] <JMichaelX> working*
[04:46] <OerHeks> oke, -mt disabled
[04:46] <JMichaelX> yup
[04:47] <OerHeks> mame needs some tlc
[04:47] <JMichaelX> that sure appears to be the case
[04:49] <OerHeks> JMichaelX, still worth to file a bugreport, pointing to that tread on mametesters. sure there will be others experiencing the same issue
[04:50] <Abe_> hello my nvidia driver (nvidia-352) that I install over on the "Additional Drivers" gives me a black screen after restart "I cannot go into tty anymore if I install this driver"... I have an nvidia prime setup :( hope somebody can help out http://paste.ubuntu.com/16314683/
[04:51] <Abe_> it is an Nvidia-Prime Setup
[04:57] <Rose> # -*- coding: utf-8 -*-
[04:58] <gouda> #crickets
[04:59] <gouda> Hypothetically, if I were to be a dummy, where would I open up a task manager?
[05:00] <thomedy> heres a weird thign
[05:01] <thomedy> i downloaded chrome from dl.google.com... it comes as a .deb... so i go to install from gui... it starts but wont finish... so then i go commando and sudo dpkg "file_name" and not only will it not run it wont auto tab out the file name as if im trying to lie to my computer and the file isn't really there but ls gets it
[05:01] <thomedy> also how come ubuntu just cant cant cant run dvd's
[05:01] <thomedy> ever
[05:01] <gouda> wuts a dvd?
[05:03] <thomedy> good point... but how come anyway
[05:08] <OerHeks> !dvd
[05:08] <thomedy> i realize the 'dvd' legalities
[05:09] <thomedy> but there are solutions and they never workf or me
[05:09] <OerHeks> just install libdvd-pkg and restart your mediaplayer
[05:09] <thomedy> libdvdcss2 isn't on my dir's and i cant seem to get it
[05:09] <OerHeks> but first, install restricted extras for codecs and stuff
[05:10] <Rhorse> thomedy: isn't google-chrome in the official repos? I think it is....
[05:11] <thomedy> chromium is
[05:11] <thomedy> nd when i do sudo apt-get install google-chrome- nothing shows up at all
[05:11] <Jordan_U> thomedy: sudo dpkg -i /path/to/file.deb && sudo apt -f install
[05:12] <rew> does ubuntu still use apt-get in 16.04? i thought it was only< sudo apt install > now
[05:12] <k1l_> rew: it got both
[05:12] <OerHeks> rew both are valid
[05:12] <rew> ahight cool
[05:12] <k1l_> but apt is more cool with progressbar etc :)
[05:12] <thomedy> -i got the job done
[05:12] <thomedy> what is the -i
[05:12] <rew> woot!
[05:12] <Jordan_U> Rhorse: thomedy: Chromium is in the dwfault repositories, chrome is not because it's proprietary.
[05:12] <rew> shorthand for <install>
[05:13] <Rhorse> thomedy: what you can do if the .deb will not work automagically, is unpack it and install the files into a directory of your choice. Chrome is self-contained, so everything goes into one parent directory, and all the other directories are off of the parent directory, including the binary executable blob. It's pretty easy to do. Deb is just an arch
[05:13] <Rhorse> ive file.
[05:13] <Jordan_U> thomedy: Short for "install".
[05:13] <k1l_> thomedy: "man dpkg" will tell that -i is for install.
[05:14] <thomedy> okay thank you i didn't know that about -i and now chrome is done
[05:15] <Jordan_U> Rhorse: That is not an appropriate solution to thomedy's problem. Please do more to check the validity of your advice and its applicability to the problem at hand before giving it.
[05:15] <thomedy> any thoughts on the dvd's
[05:15] <Jordan_U> thomedy: Did you follow the instructions on the page ubottu linked to?
[05:17] <thomedy> no i iddn't even se it but im in it now so i might have alredy checked it out still im looking at it
[05:20] <Guest91110> 16.04: First problem I had was after I logged in, it froze on the ubuntu logo and purplish screen. I tried to fix this by purging nvidia drivers, now I can't even get to the login page because my computer doesnt recognize my graphics cards or something. HELPPP
[05:22] <Guest91110> What shows up: Your screen, graphics card, and input device settings could not be detected correctly. You'll need to configure these yourself. HELP
[05:23] <Ben64> well why did you purge nvidia? which graphics cards do you have
[05:24] <Guest91110> I spent DAYS looking for an answer and that's what everyone said to do
[05:24] <Guest91110> and honestly not sure, I have a Dell XPS 13 L321X
[05:24] <Ben64> extremely unlikely that everyone said to just purge nvidia and it'll work
[05:24] <someone235> Hi, I can't connect to the wifi from Ubuntu: I can see the network, but the connection fails everytime. In windows and another Ubuntu PC it works OK. Does anyone have a suggestion how to solve this problem? This is my wireless info: http://pastie.org/private/womfogvzuahb2qh9g0na
[05:25] <Guest91110> I found it on OMG Ubuntu site
[05:25] <Guest91110> any idea what to do?
[05:26] <Ben64> Guest91110: no, optimus systems aren't my jam
[05:27] <Guest91110> no idea what an optimus sytem is but ok
[05:28] <rew> someone235: have you tried searching for a fix on the debian network manager issue? there is a command that you can point your network specifically and it might be the same fix worth a try
[05:28] <iLembus> i cannot install packages on my ubuntu
[05:28] <iLembus> i have broken packages
[05:28] <iLembus> http://pastebin.com/raw/qkjVCjgf
[05:29] <iLembus> synaptic doesnt show any ; how do i find out which one is broken?
[05:30] <someone235> rew, no. I don't really know what to search.
[05:30] <rew> https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=185742 someone235 its a long shot ... hold on there might be something here that helps but let me search for somthing more specific
[05:31] <Rhorse> someone235 what front end are you using to connect, networkmanager?
[05:31] <keesh> can anyone recommend some must apps
[05:31] <someone235> Rhorse, yes
[05:31] <iLembus> how do i find a broken package?
[05:32] <someone235> rew, Rhorse btw, I forgot to mention that until recently the wifi worked just fine.
[05:32] <Rhorse> someone235: what has happened, or what did you do in between the time it worked, and now?
[05:33] <someone235> Rhorse, nothing special. One day it just stopped working.
[05:33] <hateball> someone235: have you tried booting an older kernel?
[05:33] <hateball> Sometimes regressions happen
[05:34] <someone235> hateball, no
[05:34] <Rhorse> hateball: someone235 or a newer kernel...
[05:34] <Ben64> rew: you have PPAs messing your stuff up
[05:36] <hateball> someone235: well, I'd reboot and hold left shift to get into grub menu, pick an older kernel to boot from. See if wifi works then
[05:36] <someone235> Rhorse, hateball I don't think so. A new kernel cannot be installed without asking you, right?
[05:36] <rew> on 16.04 i added repo's that are messing me up Ben64?
[05:36] <Ben64> rew: indeed
[05:39] <someone235> hateball, it doesn't help
[05:40] <Rhorse> someone235: try deleting the connection and then creating it again. Sometimes this works.
[05:41] <iLembus> I get this Error message in apt-get "Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages."
[05:41] <iLembus> i have no hold packages
[05:41] <iLembus> none
[05:41] <iLembus> and synaptic doesnt show any broken one either
[05:42] <Rhorse> someone235: otherwise you can manually configure wpa_supplicant on the command line, and connect by modifying wpa_supplicant.conf, if you are comfortable with cli stuff.
[05:42] <rew> Ben64: ok then... good thing i was distracted with some chores around the place here. i havent started rolling back to 14.04 yet. ill burn another 16.04 usb and do a fresh install without adding any ppa's this time. i dont need them anyway good call.
[05:42] <Ben64> whoops, my messages to rew were meant for iLembus
[05:42] <rew> oh
[05:43] <Ben64> not sure how i mixed you up
[05:43] <someone235> Rhorse, it doesn't help. And I still see the same error on dmesg (No association and the time event is over already...)
[05:43] <Ben64> don't even see a question from you rew
[05:44] <Ben64> iLembus: you have 3rd party repositories enabled that are messing up your packages
[05:44] <hateball> someone235: you could have automatic security updates enabled, that would update a kernel as well
[05:45] <hateball> someone235: at any rate you have logs in /var/log/apt/history*
[05:45] <Rhorse> someone235: I would try to manually configure wpa_supplicant and then use wpa_gui or wpa_cli to connect. This takes some preparation, but is not really hard if you type in the correct commands.
[05:46] <rew> its ok Ben64 i was saying earlier that i has some issue non specific but i need to rule out at least on 2 of my pc here that its not that third party PPA for me as well.
[05:47] <Rhorse> Yes, I would update at least to 4.4x. 4.2x is not a commonly used kernel, afaik...
[05:48] <someone235> hateball, this is history.log: http://pastie.org/private/efksvmanjy4rzffnlm2kca
[05:48] <someone235> hateball, it doesn't look like I've installed any new kernel
[05:49] <someone235> Rhorse, yes, I would like to try that
[05:51] <neuhxy> Hello
[05:52] <hateball> someone235: Are you on 15.10?
[05:52] <neuhxy> I have installed ubuntu 16 mate in raspberry pi 3
[05:53] <hateball> someone235: also, note there are several history files, they are logrotated so you'll need to zcat them
[05:53] <rew> good for u neuhxy ... ur like, the coolest geek
[05:54] <ubuntu> guys i am always getting a black screen I am on live CD again :(
[05:54] <someone235> hateball, yes
[05:55] <Abe_> after nvidia install
[05:55] <rew> if you delete the "network connection" in edit connections. you should shut down and reboot cold
[05:55] <rew> then use command line to connect
[05:55] <Abe_> how can I remove the driver from live CD or I need to reinstall again D-:
[05:55] <rew> http://askubuntu.com/questions/461825/connect-to-wifi-from-command-line
[05:55] <rew> someone235: ^
[05:56] <Abe_> with my older ubuntu version where my driver actually worked with
[05:57] <Abe_> boot-- black screen -- "nvidia optimus" I really want my drivers working again
[06:00] <rew> Abe_: have u tried booting from external live ISO image ?
[06:00] <rew> er i mean... installing from that live session
[06:02] <rew> http://askubuntu.com/questions/41681/blank-screen-after-installing-nvidia-restricted-driver Abe_ have you tried researching this issue yet?
[06:03] <someone235> rew, it says "iface" is unknown parameter, and then says "The Wi-Fi network could not be found."
[06:08] <rew> not much more i can say... my solution is always reinstall a fresh OS from live external and try it from scratch. 16.04 lts and do it while connected to internet with ethernet if possible
[06:09] <rew> someone235: just keep reading the ubuntu forums until some guru pops in and gives you the magic key
[06:12] <phucktank> Hey I have a problem where my mouse and keyboard doesn't work on boot. I have to unplug and replug and then they start working. Any idea what is going on?
[06:16] <someone235> rew, thx. This is my output from wpa_supplicant: http://pastie.org/private/r8vpeiszsuixpq8wrlgvw  . Does it somehow help?
[06:17] <Rose> # -*- coding: iso-8859-1 -*- # farmconfig.py: from MoinMoin.config.multiconfig import DefaultConfig class FarmConfig(DefaultConfig):     url_prefix = '/wiki'     show_hosts = True     underlay_dir = '/where/ever/common/underlay'     # ...
[06:33] <iLembus> Ben64, i added ppas indeed
[06:33] <iLembus> Ben64, but it broke after i installed and uninstalled unity3d-editor via .deb file
[06:34] <iLembus> Ben64, unity-editor has no ppa and i havent added any ppas near the time when it broke
[06:39] <Ben64> iLembus: ok but your problem is all the 3rd party stuff
[06:47] <GoldCraft> some one i need seriosly fucking help
[06:48] <lyze> just ask c;
[06:48] <GoldCraft> when i open my terminal or firefox i cant move aroound the windows or maximize or minimize im in school right need need it
[06:48] <GoldCraft> ubuntu 16.04
[06:48] <lyze> Does it have a window border ... so close, minimize ... buttons?
[06:49] <GoldCraft> yes it does have the button but i can't access them there like freezen but im still able to use the programs
[06:49] <GoldCraft> please
[06:50] <lyze> Ehh ... restart the window manager?
[06:50] <GoldCraft> hoow
[06:51] <lyze> alt+f2 -> type "unity"
[06:51] <GoldCraft> k
[06:51] <GoldCraft> there are many unity program
[06:51] <GoldCraft> s
[06:51] <lyze> apparently just press enter
[06:51] <GoldCraft> k
[06:51] <lyze> or type into a terminal: "unity --replace" ... should do the same trick
[06:53] <OerHeks> unity --reset
[06:53] <yellabs-r2> hello there
[06:53] <Krisostoomus> hello
[06:54] <Krisostoomus> how are you doing?
[06:54] <yellabs-r2> does anyone know people who are working on the : http://tour.ubuntu.com/en/ ?
[06:54] <yellabs-r2> from the ubuntu community
[06:56] <Krisostoomus> u bu nt u
[06:56] <iLembus> Ben64, ok I'll need look further
[06:56] <iLembus> Ben64, thanks but i need to go now
[06:56] <iLembus> cya all
[06:57] <ThisIsTheory> huh?
[06:57] <Anastasia19> How do I contact Anonymous
[06:57] <Spookan> Anastasia19: You dont, they contact you.
[06:58] <dax> Anastasia19: Ubuntu support only here, thanks
[06:58] <Anastasia19> I was contacted by Anonymous a few weeks ago
[06:59] <GoldCraft> Hey is the dude that helped me before her?
[06:59] <GoldCraft> here
[06:59] <GoldCraft> lyze?
[06:59] <lyze> hm
[07:00] <GoldCraft> thanks didnt work :P found out that when my mouse is in my laptop it freezez the windows can you tell me why?
[07:00] <lyze> aw … and huch?
[07:00] <lyze> No … I can't?! x)
[07:00] <GoldCraft> k :P its wered
[07:01] <OerHeks> usb2 mouse in usb3 port?
[07:01] <GoldCraft> ?
[07:01] <dax> yellabs-r2: doubt it, but the relevant repository is https://github.com/ubuntudesign/tour.ubuntu.com if you have a bug report or something
[07:01] <Anastasia19> Someone claiming to be Anonymous contacted me asking what do I want from them. I couldn't elaborate it that time but now I can.
[07:01] <dax> Anastasia19: #ubuntu is for Ubuntu technical support. Please take non-support chatter elsewhere, thanks.
[07:01] <OerHeks> Anastasia19, wrong channel
[07:02] <stevenm> anyone here ever to actually use the VLAN function of nm-applet successfully on 14.04?
[07:02] <GoldCraft> can anyone tell me why steam wont start?
[07:02] <Spookan> Anastasia19: You have ##Chat for offtopic chat.
[07:02] <yellabs-r2> ok, yeah i guess thats the right way to go, but if any one working on that project ( ubuntu tour )  is here , give me a knock
[07:03] <Anastasia19> Anonymous contacted me in this channel
[07:03] <GoldCraft> could anyone tell me why steam wont open in ubuntu 16.04
[07:04] <hateball> GoldCraft: Do you get any errors at all?
[07:04] <hateball> Run it from a terminal
[07:05] <GoldCraft> no
[07:05] <GoldCraft> hateball it just wont start
[07:06] <GoldCraft> im trying reinstalling steam again
[07:07] <GoldCraft> anonymous@Anonymoushackingpc:~$ steam
[07:07] <GoldCraft> Running Steam on ubuntu 16.04 64-bit
[07:07] <GoldCraft> STEAM_RUNTIME is enabled automatically
[07:07] <GoldCraft> [2016-05-09 09:06:59] Startup - updater built Mar 31 2016 19:10:48
[07:07] <GoldCraft> SteamUpdateUI: An X Error occurred
[07:07] <Jack3k3> I have win10 installed on my main SSD in my laptop, but it also has a 20gb mSata ssd that was originally meant for when the laptop had a magnetic hard drive (which I replaced with the SSD). I want to install linux on this 20gb mSata ssd, if I do it from a live cd will it mess up my windows bootloader, AND, if I want to remove linux later, will it be straightforward to do without breaking the windows bootloader
[07:07] <GoldCraft> X Error of failed request:  BadValue (integer parameter out of range for operation)
[07:07] <hateball> GoldCraft: Usually means you're not using a supported GPU driver
[07:07]  * dax sighs at "anonymoushackingpc"
[07:07] <hateball> !paste | GoldCraft
[07:07] <hateball> GoldCraft: So, do you use nVidia or AMD GPU?
[07:08] <lyze> Jack3k3, if you install the bootloader (grub) on that 20GB mSata and not on your main SSD, then it wont mess up your win bootloader from that ssd
[07:08] <GoldCraft> with a gpu
[07:08] <GoldCraft> im using an AMD apu
[07:08] <OerHeks> yellabs-r2, https://design.canonical.com/2016/02/trimming-the-fat-from-the-ubuntu-online-tour/ with a name https://launchpad.net/~barry-mcgee
[07:08] <Jack3k3> lyze, ok great, thanks, ill give it a go
[07:09] <GoldCraft> dude im using and amd gpu.
[07:10] <lyze> Jack3k3, after you've installed it, you need to change the boot order in your bios. so it'll boot from your 20gb HD and not from your SSD c:
[07:10] <hateball> !who | GoldCraft
[07:11] <hateball> GoldCraft: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2322415&p=13479531#post13479531
[07:11] <GoldCraft> !HATEBALL what do i do
[07:11] <Jack3k3> lyze, so when I do that, grub will come up and let me chose windows or linux?
[07:12] <lyze> Jack3k3, yup!
[07:12] <Jack3k3> also, there wont be additional complications due to UEFI will there?
[07:12] <hateball> GoldCraft: You read the link I gave you, and try running the command
[07:12] <lyze> Urgh
[07:12] <GoldCraft> were is tht link
[07:12] <lyze> I … don't think so if you going to create a new uefi partition. but I#d recommend asking somebody else since I#m really unsure with that uefi thing
[07:13] <GoldCraft> found it ty hateball
[07:13] <firman> I was open the document viewer and when i scrolling down the whole system is freezing, then i chek kern.log i found this error message, what i should to do for fix that? Sorry my english
[07:13] <firman> http://paste.ubuntu.com/16315843/
[07:14] <hateball> firman: sr0 is usually a dvd/cdrom, is that where you're opening the document from?
[07:14] <yellabs-r2> dank je OerHeks
[07:15] <firman> hateball, i am using laptop without cd/dvd rom, its just on my hdd
[07:15] <GoldCraft> !MEATBALL!! it seems that it can be forced opened i dont understand the code but still LD_PRELOAD='/usr/$LIB/libstdc++.so.6' DISPLAY=:0 steam right now its updating
[07:30] <zhangb> 你好
[07:30] <firman> hateball, i got something, i'am using huawei mobile wifi, its sometimes recognized as cd-rom, right? But iam just open the pdf from my hard disk
[07:31] <Jordan_U> !cn | zhangb
[07:32] <prova> Hi everyone! Could you suggest me how to install a minimal KDE + Plasma 5 over the mini.iso?
[07:32] <Executioner> Jordan_U: you missed it by a second
[07:33] <Executioner> !cn | zhangb
[07:34] <wander_> Hi
[07:34] <OerHeks> prova, according to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallingKDE install kde-plasma-desktop
[07:35] <wander_> I am using ubuntu mate and i can't quit the tilda terminal anymore :SSS
[07:36] <Optiprism> When installing something via apt does each user share the same programs or does each user account have to apt get their own programs
[07:37] <prova> OerHeks, kde-plasma-desktop is not in xenial repositories
[07:37] <lyze> it'll get installed system wide Optiprism
[07:37] <OerHeks> prova oh, then you might want to reask in #kubuntu
[07:37] <prova> ty
[07:38] <Dumle29> Every time I hook up my charger, my laptop just gets stupidly slow
[07:38] <wander_> Power settings messed up??
[07:38] <Dumle29> after 2 minutes of it being plugged in or so, everything starts to take 2 seconds. As soon as I unplug it it's back to normal
[07:38] <Jordan_U> Dumle29: Anything interesting in dmesg when you plug in your phone?
[07:38] <wander_> Weird
[07:39] <Dumle29> Jordan_U: phone?
[07:39] <Dumle29> wander_: where can I check my power settings?
[07:39] <Dumle29> It's an ultrabook, but it doesn't feel anywhere near hot enough to be thermally throttling
[07:40] <wander_> Please try this : https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PowerManagement/ReducedPower
[07:40] <wander_> It could be any part of power saving
[07:40] <Jordan_U> Dumle29: Sorry, I'm not sure how I misread that :)
[07:41] <Jordan_U> Dumle29: Anything interesting in dmesg when you plug in your charger?
[07:43] <Optiprism> Any ideas how I can start vlc from the terminal? Whenever I open a video with "vlc video.mp4" it fails to display any video and only plays sound
[07:43] <Jordan_U> Optiprism: Are you starting vlc from a gnome-terminal or from a tty? Can you open other graphical apps from the same terminal window?
[07:44] <Optiprism> err the default ubuntu x-terminal I think
[07:45] <Optiprism> And I can do gedit
[07:46] <Dumle29> Jordan_U: Nothing in dmesg when I plug it in
[07:47] <Jordan_U> Optiprism: And if you open vlc then open the file from within vlc you see the video as expected?
[07:47] <Jordan_U> Optiprism: Please pastebin the output of "vlc /path/to/video".
[07:48] <prova> Are there any differences between server and mini ISO?
[07:49] <wander_> Jordan, if you think it MIGHT be over heating please install psensor by using the command : sudo apt-get install psensor
[07:49] <OerHeks> prova, yes, size. the installer can do the same things. but the mini iso needs internet to install, server can be used offline
[07:49] <ducasse> prova: there are packages on the server iso, but i think that's it.
[07:49] <wander_> Then start it up and you've got all your tempratures
[07:49] <severi> aloa
[07:49] <Jordan_U> wander_: I think that was intended for Dumle29.
[07:49] <prova> No kernel differences?
[07:50] <Dumle29> wander_: Did that. it's sitting at a nice 39-40C
[07:50] <OerHeks> prova, no.
[07:50] <prova> OerHeks, ducasse thanks
[07:50] <wander_> I am sorry, yeah that seems fine, so that's not the problem
[07:50] <Dumle29> wander_: Also tried the pm-powersave false.
[07:50] <Dumle29> no dice
[07:51] <Dumle29> wait wat. Now it suddenly got fast again. And I didn't remove the charger
[07:51] <Dumle29> and now it's back to super slow
[07:51] <Optiprism> here's the pastebin http://pastebin.com/TNDatXpR
[07:51] <wander_> Interesting, what is the model of laptop do you have?
[07:55] <Dumle29> wander_: HP envy 13 d-086
[07:55] <Dumle29> wander_: I just might've found something
[07:55] <Dumle29> wander_: watch -s 1 'cat /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0/cpufreq/scaling_governor' says powersave with the power plugged in
[07:56] <Dumle29> eh, it does the same with it out
[07:56] <Optiprism> I solved it by reinstalling vlc
[07:59] <Dumle29> wander_: Hmm, my charger is a 45w charger. shouldn't that be more than enough?
[07:59] <Jack3k3> lyze, wanted to say thanks, it worked perfectly! i manually created the efi and other partitions on the second hdd, specified grub to load on the second hdd, installed, and on reboot it still loads directly to windows unless i hit F12 to select the 2nd hdd to load ubuntu
[07:59] <Jack3k3> exactly as i wanted it!!
[07:59] <lyze> Jack3k3, awesome! :D
[07:59] <Jack3k3> im shocked it worked so easy haha :) feels good!
[08:00] <lyze> I'm glad that I could help c:
[08:00] <lyze> Have fun!
[08:00] <Jack3k3> ty
[08:04] <sgronblo> Hello, does anyone have experience with HD video on a 1GB ubuntu system? Will it play flawlessly?
[08:05] <Jordan_U> sgronblo: That depends on your GPU and GPU drivers, and to a certain extent your CPU, more than it does to the amount of RAM you have.
[08:08] <sgronblo> Jordan_U: right, I am considering buying an Intel Compute Stick which would be mainly used for playing HD videos at a trade show. Just not been able to find any online writings about how well it works for that purpose.
[08:09] <sgronblo> I feel like it should have enough juice, but would just love to hear someone confirm that it is enough.
[08:09] <OerHeks> sgronblo, example: kodi can play hd video, with just 1 gb > http://kodi.wiki/view/supported_hardware#Linux and a nice videocard ofcourse
[08:10] <OerHeks> i could not find other confirmation
[08:11] <ducasse> sgronblo: the rpi boxes has played hd video with far less.
[08:12] <Jack3k3> anyone know if its possible to edit files on a usb that had an iso written to it?
[08:12] <Jack3k3> in ubuntu i can see all the files on the usb but I can't make any edits/deletetions etc
[08:13] <sgronblo> ducasse: right, thats a good point
[08:14] <OerHeks> Jack3k3, the ubuntu iso on usb is read-only, so the answer is no
[08:14] <ducasse> sgronblo: they don't have powerful *anything*, yet they stll play hd video just fine. you really don't need much these days. a compute stick should be plenty.
[08:25] <sveinse> I have a server running 15.04. What is the approach to upgrade this to 16.04? Upgrade via 15.10?
[08:26] <OerHeks> sveinse, yes, though i would reinstall.
[08:26] <sveinse> OerHeks: Why?
[08:27] <OerHeks> Unless you have a complicated install, it would be faster.
[08:28] <sveinse> OerHeks: Well, it takes considerable time getting all services and configurations resetup
[08:28] <ducasse> sveinse: a lot of iy can probably just be copied across.
[08:28] <sveinse> So there has to be a reasoning to why you want to spend the extra hours
[08:29] <sgronblo> ducasse: cool, thanks for your opinion
[08:33] <Dumle29> So my cpu usage jumps from around 8-20% when on battery, to 40-120% on AC power...
[08:33] <Dumle29> wat
[08:36] <phucktank> Hello, None of my HID devices work on boot. They work in windows and in the BIOS but do not work in any distro of linux until i unplug them and re plug them. I have tweaked every setting in my BIOS a thousand times. any ideas?
[08:37] <SwedeMike> phucktank: look for errors related to USB support at boot (in dmesg). If they start working after you remove them and plug them back in again, it sounds like the problem is related to when the USB subsystem is starting up at boot.
[08:39] <phucktank> unable to read config index 0 descriptor/start: -71 AND usb 3-13: can't read configurations, error -71 are the errors I get in dmesg but Googling i can't find anything
[08:42] <NoCode> Hi, I'm setting up fail2ban, should I be enabling each service in the config that I don't use? For instance, I don't really use FTP, but someone might try to log into such a service. Enabling it with a max try of 1 would ban the IP for 10 minutes or however long it is set, correct?
[08:50] <Abe_> No sound in .sh game, which libraries am i missing for gaming?
[08:51] <Abe_> i got my Nvidiaprime stetup working again with my old kernel
[08:51] <Abe_> Nvidia*-Prime
[08:54] <Abe_> how do i change grub to load my old kernel instaed of the nw one?
[08:54] <Abe_> new*
[08:55] <Abe_> I need kernel 3.13-0-32 to boot up 4.2 doesn't work
[08:55] <fub> Hi. I am trying to create a minimal ubuntu server vmware image to share with a friend. I downloaded the ubuntu server install cd and installed it. The vmware image is now already 2.5GB, is there a better way to do this so I can keep this small?
[08:55] <Abe_> I always have to change it when grub boot's up
[08:56] <Wobbo> At 16.04 Evoltion hase no translation. So I think that only need [/usr/share/locale-langpack/nl/LC_MESSAGES/evolution-3.18.mo]. But where and how can i find this?
[08:58] <Abe_> having  ubuntu 14.04.1
[09:03] <brunch875> ctrl+shift + drag move creates a link. That's pretty neat.
[09:04] <Abe_> I need kernel ver. 3.13-0-32 to boot up 4.2 doesn't work... i always need to check 3.13 to boot up with "shift".. i need this one as standard
[09:04] <Abe_> on boot up*
[09:05] <Abe_> or can i just delete the new kernel version that i don't need with synaptic?
[09:15] <laro> Hi everyone, one question, in a 3 NICs setup, in order to benefit from bondig (duplex speed), do I need the switch to have 802.3ad support?
[09:15] <akik> i was able to install ubuntu-desktop under kubuntu but now there's only the desktop without any panels. which package provides the dash etc. ?
[09:18] <erwan_> hi there
[09:19] <erwan_> Just trying to bootstrap a xenial in a chroot and I reach that error
[09:19] <erwan_> Setting up keyboard-configuration (1.108ubuntu15) ...
[09:19] <erwan_>  /bin//setupcon: 806: /bin//setupcon: /bin//../bin/ckbcomp: not found
[09:19] <erwan_> googling it shows a very old bug
[09:19] <erwan_> while the same build procedure worked for 14.04
[09:19] <erwan_> I really wonder what is wrong here
[09:19] <erwan_> if some have ideas
[09:20] <plasmoduck> hi
[09:25] <akik> it looks like installing ubuntu-desktop and unity didn't install the window manager as i can't move the windows
[09:44] <akik> i was able to fix it with /usr/bin/compiz --replace &, /usr/bin/dconf reset -f /org/compiz/ and /usr/bin/setsid unity
[09:44] <akik> adding an additional startup script with those three commands
[09:45] <danielja> Hi, I have a question. I was trying to get a windows 10 VM to work on my ubuntu laptop. I used the virtual machine manager, with KVM and vt-x enabled. It worked, but it all seemed very slow. Is this normall? I am running a i5-4200m 8gb ram and an ssd.
[09:46] <ThisIsTheory> anyone know how I can load this on ubuntu:
[09:46] <ThisIsTheory> http://ais.informatik.uni-freiburg.de/tursi/downloads.html
[09:47] <hateball> ThisIsTheory: The instructions are right there
[09:47] <danielja> ThisIsTheory: have you installed java?
[09:48] <ThisIsTheory> I don't know if I have java
[09:49] <ThisIsTheory> and I don't know how to follow those directions
[09:49] <stratos> type "java -version"
[09:49] <danielja> ThisIsTheory: If you have downloaded the jar file you can type in terminal: "java -jar tursi.jar"
[09:49] <ThisIsTheory> java -jar /path/to/tursi.jar
[09:49] <ThisIsTheory> sorr
[09:49] <ThisIsTheory> y
[09:49] <ThisIsTheory> java version "1.8.0_91"
[09:49] <danielja> yes, so it should work
[09:50] <ThisIsTheory> java -jar tursi.jar
[09:50] <ThisIsTheory> Error: Unable to access jarfile tursi.jar
[09:50] <danielja> sudo java -jar tursi.jar?
[09:50] <danielja> :P
[09:51] <ThisIsTheory> same error still dan
[09:51] <ThisIsTheory> danieli,
[09:52] <danielja> Is the jar file in your current directory?
[09:52] <danielja> You can find out by typing "ls" in your terminal
[09:53] <ThisIsTheory> I don't see it in the ls
[09:53] <Cedara> Ubuntu 16.04, fresh install: finally could install the third party deb for vivaldi via nautilus. However, I cannot see vivaldi listed in the software center. Could someone explain this for me?
[09:53] <ThisIsTheory> danieli,
[09:53] <danielja> ThisIsTheory: Ah theres your problem ;)
[09:54] <ThisIsTheory> I figured as much, but what should I do?
[09:54] <ThisIsTheory> :)
[09:54] <danielja> ThisIsTheory: navigate to the path where you downloaded it using the cd command.
[09:54] <danielja> ThisIsTheory: so for me that would be: cd /home/daan/Downloads
[09:55] <ThisIsTheory> it is in the downloads folder inside of the home directory
[09:55] <danielja> Probably
[09:57] <ThisIsTheory> what is the CD command?
[09:57] <ThisIsTheory> I tried cd home/me/Downloads
[09:58] <Fuchs> ThisIsTheory: /home
[09:58] <stratos> you can run "cd" without arguments to go to your home folder
[09:58] <andre___> cd /home/me/Downloads
[09:58] <stratos> then type "cdd Downloads" to go into the subfolders where downloads are stored
[09:58] <Fuchs> ThisIsTheory: but you can replace /home/me with just ~, so cd ~/Downloads   should work  (also the tab key helps)
[09:58] <stratos> cd*
[09:59] <ThisIsTheory> that worked Fuchs :)
[09:59] <danielja> Anybody can answer my question?
[09:59] <stratos> and list your current folder with "pwd"
[10:01] <ThisIsTheory> it is working
[10:01] <ThisIsTheory> !!!
[10:01] <ThisIsTheory> thanks every body
[10:03] <Fuchs> you're welcome :)
[10:05] <ratrace> Hello. It takes almost a minute between clicking the Chromium icon and Chromium opening, on Ubuntu 16.04/Unity. It's not cold start either. And on xfce, same machine, not ubuntu, it opens within 2-3 seconds. Is something misconfigured?
[10:08] <stratos> chromium starts in one sec on my 16.04. Although the first time it probably took more than a min.
[10:08] <ThisIsTheory> anybody know enough CS or interest in Turing Machines to help me use the attached file in the http://ais.informatik.uni-freiburg.de/tursi/downloads.html
[10:08] <ThisIsTheory> website
[10:08] <ThisIsTheory> in miscellaneous
[10:08] <ThisIsTheory> the examples
[10:09] <ThisIsTheory> and how to load it in
[10:13] <NessaDevil> HI people. I have a problem with my ubuntu installation. Please have a look at this screenshot. http://bit.ly/276Wars
[10:15] <OerHeks> NessaDevil, use an other image site, this is just a spam url
[10:16] <OerHeks> imgur.com
[10:17] <NessaDevil> ok :)
[10:17] <Spookan> Yeah, didnt work for me.
[10:17] <OerHeks> i fear those short url garbage
[10:22] <OerHeks> see, spam and tries somewhere else...
[10:27] <boughani> hello
[10:28] <GooblyGon> Does anyone know if anyone has implemented a version of fortune that gives random Linux commands and tips and tricks instead of old quotes?
[10:28] <GooblyGon> I could probably make it myself, but I was wondering if anyone knew of an implementation alraedy
[10:30] <OerHeks> GooblyGon, there are several fortune lists, see http://askubuntu.com/a/704665
[10:31] <GooblyGon> Does that answer my question?
[10:31] <pcazman> my alsa sound mixer keeps on muting itself on start ups or reboots--does anyone know why or how can I prevent this from happening?
[10:32] <OerHeks> GooblyGon, did you read it?
[10:32] <GooblyGon> Did YOU?
[10:33] <GooblyGon> I'm adding you to my ignore list
[10:33] <OerHeks> ... i did put effort to find it.
[10:33] <OerHeks> LoLz
[10:33] <GooblyGon> Do you even understand what I'm asking?
[10:37] <Takumo> Quick question, how do I ensure I install nginx from the nginx repo and not the ubuntu one?
[10:38] <OerHeks> Takumo, if that repo has newer versions, our repos are ignored.
[10:38] <nodedfree> hi! i'm trying to rsync between local machine and mounted storage on remote server (w/ root user in remote server), but it doesn't copy, any idea why?
[10:38] <stratos> i think you can apt-get simulate first with the -s option
[10:38] <Takumo> OerHeks: oh yeah its a bit confusing sometimes checking the output of `apt-cache showpkg`
[10:38] <Takumo> but that's now showing 1.10
[10:39] <OerHeks> !info nginx
[10:40] <Takumo> interesting, however it did select the nginx repo
[10:40] <kilbith> hello, i don't see an option on hexchat to keep it in the notification zone on ubuntu (unlike other distros), is it normal ?
[10:40] <ducasse> GooblyGon: apt-cache show fortunes-debian-hints fortunes-ubuntu-server
[10:40] <OerHeks> Takumo, see https://launchpad.net/~nginx/+archive/ubuntu/stable?field.series_filter=xenial i guess the same version
[10:41] <OerHeks> kilbith, install the Hexchat Indicator Plugin
[10:41] <OerHeks> not installed standard with hexchat
[10:42] <kilbith> why do i need a plugin even...
[10:42] <kilbith> should be default
[10:42] <kilbith> but thanks for the info ;)
[10:42] <OerHeks> good point, no answer to that
[10:42] <OerHeks> restart hexchat after install :-)
[10:44] <ducasse> kilbith: i'm guessing the reason it's so people who don't need that plugin don't have to install it.
[10:45] <GooblyGon> ducasse, exactly the kind of the thing I'm looking for. Thanks!
[10:45] <r00trunner> Does the adobe connect add in exist for linux? I want to share my screen, but it seems to be impossible... Any suggestions?
[10:45] <ducasse> GooblyGon: they were in the link OerHeks kindly pointed you to...
[10:47] <nodedfree> how can i allow rsync access remote server's mounted device by fuse ??
[10:48] <yossarianuk> Hi - I am going to be using KVM for VM's  (16.04_- I tried creating the network bridge using network-manager I can see the following constantly  the following messages in dmesg
[10:48] <yossarianuk> br0: port 1(enp3s0f1) received tcn bpdu - br0: topology change detected, propagating
[10:49] <kilbith> OerHeks, the options doesn't appear after restart
[10:49] <kilbith> see : https://github.com/hexchat/hexchat/issues/1447
[10:50] <Bechara> Help me upgrade from ubuntu 15.04 (a corpse version) to ubuntu 16.04 setting up from the same version.
[10:50] <Bechara> Please quick
[10:51] <geirha> !eolupgrades
[10:51] <Bechara> I know but how do i get upgrade from within the system for that.
[10:52] <Bechara> What do I mean is that, it is gonna help me preserve current configs.
[10:53] <luke> nick /davos
[10:53] <davos> lol still working out the kinks
[10:53] <Bechara> I saw a checkbox for upgrades in settings but how do I get that.
[10:53] <OerHeks> kilbith, the plugin was already there, click on the email envelope...
[10:53] <Bechara> There is no option to download/setup
[10:54] <Bechara> Anybody alive for me.
[10:54] <kilbith> OerHeks, aaah ok thanks
[10:54] <Ben64> Bechara: you're not making a lot of sense
[10:54] <Bechara> What ?
[10:54] <geirha> Bechara: Yes. If the upgrade tries to overwrite a config file in /etc, you will be prompted about it and asked what to do (keep mine, install new one, edit manually, etc)
[10:55] <Ben64> Bechara: you asked how to upgrade, geirha gave you a link on EOL upgrades, and now you're asking what exactly?
[10:56] <kilbith> OerHeks, this doesn't propose me to /hide/ the window and reduce it to the tray icon
[10:56] <Bechara> You mean I would have to use a live usb and while installation it would prompt me for that.
[10:57] <Ben64> Bechara: no, you do the upgrade like it says in the link you were given
[11:00] <llwalahoop> Hi!
[11:00] <Bechara> Where do I find the sources.list page.
[11:00] <sobczyk> are there any plans to update to qt 5.6 in xenial?
[11:01] <llwalahoop> Please help, I messed up my repositories or sources.list or something and synaptic doesn't run anymore. How can I fix this?
[11:02] <kilbith> llwalahoop, sudo find / -iname sources.list
[11:02] <llwalahoop> I was trying to install tails installer and something went wrong. Is there a way to revert to the old list?
[11:03] <kilbith> if you did a backup, yes certainly
[11:03] <Bechara> I'm required to update sources.list but where exactly to find that.
[11:03] <k1l_> llwalahoop: tails is another OS and when you install that (or migrate to that) you leave the official ubuntu territory.
[11:05] <kilbith> llwalahoop, try that : sudo cp -v /usr/share/doc/apt/examples/sources.list /usr/apt/sources.list
[11:05] <ducasse> Bechara: /etc/apt
[11:05] <llwalahoop> k1l_: The installation instructions tell me to install tails installer from a ppa which i tried to add. After this addition synaptic gives an error.
[11:05] <k1l_> llwalahoop: you can run "grep ^ /etc/apt/sources.list /etc/apt/sources.list.d/* | nc termbin.com 9999" and show the url here
[11:05] <Bechara> How to update?
[11:05] <ducasse> Bechara: read the link you were given and follow the steps.
[11:06] <k1l_> !eolupgrades | Bechara
[11:06] <k1l_> Bechara: ^ this link describes what to do and where that is
[11:07] <Bechara> Oh! man, it still needs some guidance as it is not providing direct commands.
[11:08] <Bechara> For instance, look at first step to upgrade sources.list but how?
[11:08] <k1l_> Bechara: you are on 15.04? that should upgrade to 15.10 with the regular commands
[11:08] <rainbowtux> Hi all, I have a question concerning Debian packaging: if a config file is present in an older version but not in a newer version, what is the proper way to have it removed on update?
[11:08] <k1l_> Bechara: "sudo do-release-upgrade" doesnt work?
[11:09] <Bechara> just a second
[11:09] <Bechara> Lol, it did
[11:09] <Bechara> Sorry didn't
[11:10] <k1l_> Bechara: what did it say? did it say an error?
[11:10] <k1l_> Bechara: please run  "cat /etc/update-manager/release-upgrades | nc termbin.com 9999" in terminal and show that url
[11:11] <Bechara> Ya
[11:11] <llwalahoop> k1l_: http://termbin.com/z0ho
[11:12] <Bechara> http://termbin.com/3lhd
[11:12] <k1l_> llwalahoop: "sudo apt update | nc termbin.com 9999"
[11:13] <Bechara> for me too?
[11:13] <k1l_> Bechara: no.
[11:13] <Bechara> Then>
[11:13] <Bechara> ?
[11:13] <Bechara> http://termbin.com/3lhd
[11:13] <k1l_> Bechara: please show the error that "sudo do-release-upgrade" brings you on paste.ubuntu.com
[11:15] <llwalahoop> k1l_: E: Malformed line 57 in source list /etc/apt/sources.list (dist parse)
[11:15] <llwalahoop> E: The list of sources could not be read.
[11:15] <llwalahoop> Use netcat.
[11:16] <Bechara> http://pastebin.com/uzh3zRv9
[11:17] <matt1_> Hi all.
[11:17] <llwalahoop> k1l_: This is what I get in terminal. I'm running 14.04 so I don't have a stable apt, but apt-get.
[11:17] <k1l_> llwalahoop: "sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list" then go down and remove the both lines from that hexchat ppa. ppas dont belong into that file. after that press ctrl+o and then ctrl+x
[11:17] <Bechara> Just a piece I think enough to illust.
[11:18] <Bechara> http://pastebin.com/uzh3zRv9
[11:18] <llwalahoop> k1l_: Where should they be then?
[11:18] <k1l_> Bechara: "grep ^ /etc/apt/sources.list /etc/apt/sources.list.d/* | nc termbin.com 9999" and show the url here
[11:18] <matt1_> I'm having a little trouble with my external monitor connected via USB-C and was wondering if anyone could help? It's a 4k monitor, and it detects the correct resolution, but the monitor says there is no video output if I select the max resolution. It works fine under lower resolutions, and it works in Windows. I'm running 16.04
[11:19] <k1l_> llwalahoop: you added them already to the correct place in /etc/apt/sources.list.d/ folder.
[11:19] <k1l_> llwalahoop: dont do that manually, use add-apt-repo and ppa-purge to manage ppas.
[11:19] <llwalahoop> Ok, I'll try that. Thanks a lot, k1l_ !
[11:21] <Guest31208> how to run c programme in termianl
[11:21] <matt1_> If anyone has any ideas it would be much appreciated!
[11:23] <Guest31208> how to run c programme in termianl
[11:23] <Bechara> Hey, look at this too http://pastebin.com/SwwTGmCu before I ran "grep ^ /etc/apt/sources.list /etc/apt/sources.list.d/* | nc termbin.com 9999"
[11:24] <Bechara> Guest31208 : use gcc
[11:25] <llwalahoop> k1l_: Brilliant, everything works as should :)
[11:25] <k1l_> Guest31208: compile the source code with gcc, then run your app
[11:25] <Guest31208> compilatin coamnd
[11:25] <Bechara> gcc filename.c
[11:25] <k1l_> Guest31208: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/4635794/how-to-run-a-c-program-on-ubuntu
[11:26] <Bechara> Hey, look at http://pastebin.com/SwwTGmCu before I ran "grep ^ /etc/apt/sources.list /etc/apt/sources.list.d/* | nc termbin.com 9999"
[11:26] <matt1_> Hm, only thing I can find on the issue is that it works in Mint, butnot in Ubuntu!
[11:26] <k1l_> Bechara: that are 2 total different outputs. press y on the last one
[11:26] <seto> quick question
[11:27] <Bechara> what basically grep is for ?
[11:27] <k1l_> Bechara: for searching and listing text lines.
[11:27] <seto> what command has replaced this sudo systemctl <<<< im configuring a vpn server and get command not found on the systemctl
[11:28] <k1l_> seto: systemctl is a systemd command. that is used since 15.04 on ubuntu. so for 14.04 you need to use "sudo service"
[11:28] <seto> ty
[11:28] <Mika_> Hello. which commandline program is good if you want to get fast overall hdd health information. badblocks takes whole day etc...
[11:29] <k1l_> Mika_: look at the smart tools
[11:29] <Mika_> k1l_: ok
[11:29] <k1l_> Mika_: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Smartmontools
[11:29] <Mika_> k1l_: but that is only for hdd which have S.M.A.R.T
[11:29] <k1l_> Mika_: yes
[11:30] <k1l_> which are all todays hdds. except for cheap usb cases
[11:30] <llwalahoop> k1l_: I tried to add the ppa but I can't make it work. I think it is a question of 'syntax'. Can you help me with this? The repo I'm trying to add is 'ppa:tails-team/tails-installer'
[11:30] <Bechara> After the downloads finish. Would I be able to directly install or use a live usb?
[11:30] <k1l_> !addppa | llwalahoop
[11:30] <seto> not that ither
[11:31] <k1l_> Bechara: that is a online update. it will install all new packages and after a reboot at the end you are on the new version
[11:31] <Mika_> k1l_: Ok, i have lot of different age disk. Oldest are like 2006.
[11:31] <seto> im doing this all over ssh so not sure if that makes a difference or not
[11:32] <k1l_> Mika_: they should support that
[11:32] <Mika_> k1l_: cool, anyway i go to read more about smarttools...thanks :)
[11:32] <k1l_> Mika_: but some device controllers like cheap usb adapters dont support that.
[11:32] <matt1_> k1l_: Sorry to bother! Any ideas on my display issue? No worries if not.
[11:32] <Bechara> If the downloads get interrupted? Would it restart or continue?
[11:32] <k1l_> matt1_: sorry. dont know about usb-c connections for video
[11:33] <k1l_> Bechara: not automatically. but it would be best if the upgrade doesnt get interrupted.
[11:33] <matt1_> k1l_: Ok thanks, no problem. I'm hoping a fix is going to come out, the non-native resolution is given me a bit of a headache!
[11:33] <El_Presidente> hi
[11:35] <kesd> hi guys
[11:36] <kesd> zenity --info -- text href link?
[11:39] <andygraybeal> i'm using deja dup to backup my harddrive, and i don't know if it has completed... everytime i come back to my computer after i start the backup it has shuttoff.  i'm going to use rsync.. since deja is a little frustrating.
[11:39] <BluesKaj> Hi folks
[11:51] <GhOst4> ubuntu
[11:56] <wander_> Woop Woop
[11:56] <wander_> Back back
[11:56] <ozan> hai guys
[11:57] <petapetapeta> Hi! I am trying to resolve all DNS requests ending with .consul on port 8600 instead of port 53. How would I do this?
[12:03] <Atomic_JNute> Hello
[12:07] <Atomic_JNute> Do anybody know kali's channel?
[12:07] <k1l_> !kali | Atomic_JNute
[12:13] <the-erm> Does anyone have any good suggestions for a skype alternative?  16.04 is out and the package on their site is for 12.04.   12.04's EOL is August/September 2017, and I need a reliable way to communicate with clients overseas.
[12:14] <gruviovifo> help, I cannot boot up ubuntu, when i try and boot up on safety mode it tells me it cannot mount the hard drive partition, i am on the live cd, i cannot mount partition from here either, i am a newb, thanks
[12:14] <qis> Which ubuntu version do I need to get access to GCC 6.1?
[12:15] <qis> (Preferably server but desktop will do too)
[12:16] <Bechara> Hey help me with wireshark common
[12:19] <the-erm> gruviovifo: do you know how to open a terminal?
[12:19] <gruviovifo> yes
[12:20] <the-erm> what's in ls /dev/sd*
[12:20] <gruviovifo> the-erm, permission denied
[12:20] <the-erm> hmm odd.
[12:21] <k1l_> gruviovifo: "sudo parted -l | nc termbin.com 9999"
[12:21] <gruviovifo> http://pastebin.com/RhScM0Zh
[12:21] <the-erm> what does that pipe do?
[12:22] <gruviovifo> http://pastebin.com/iPMxa0Em
[12:22] <lyze> the-erm, it uploads the output to termbin.com ... which is like a pastebin but directly from the terminal ... see termbin.com for information
[12:22] <k1l_> that pipe the output from the first command to the second command. in fact it lists the hdd/partition list to netcat which loads it up on a paste service site and gives yout the url
[12:23] <the-erm> I said :ls /dev/sd*
[12:24] <the-erm> gruviovifo: ls /dev/sd* | nc termbin.com 9999
[12:24] <the-erm> Try that one ...
[12:24] <GoldCraft> HELP
[12:24] <gruviovifo> http://termbin.com/ddw2
[12:25] <the-erm> Good news you have sda1, 2 and 3
[12:25] <GoldCraft> i dualbooted with windows and in windows i made a partion BUT cant open it in ubuntu HELP im in the middle of school help please
[12:25] <gruviovifo> why is that good news? when i click on the hard drive on the file manager it doesnt mount
[12:25] <lerner> some applications (ocrfeeder, krop) cannot be started from the gui. I have to open them from cli. why?
[12:25] <the-erm> Are you expecting 2 drives, if so there should be an sdb*
[12:26] <Codfection> where is tweetdeck in linux / ubuntu ??
[12:26] <gruviovifo> i think there's swap logical and another one if i remember correctly
[12:26] <GoldCraft> somebody i relly need help
[12:26] <the-erm> gruviovifo: df | nc termbin.com 9999
[12:26] <GoldCraft> my teacher is gonna kill me if he finds out i cant do anything
[12:26] <gruviovifo> http://termbin.com/007o
[12:27] <backbox> hi
[12:27] <GoldCraft> backbox help mmeeeee
[12:27] <GoldCraft> i dualbooted with windows and in windows i made a partion BUT cant open it in ubuntu HELP im in the middle of school help please
[12:27] <backbox> what????
[12:28] <GoldCraft> yes
[12:28] <GoldCraft> i cant open a partion i made in windows
[12:28] <backbox> why did you do that?
[12:28] <GoldCraft> i cant open it in ubuntu
[12:28] <GoldCraft> beacuse to have all my school things in
[12:28] <GoldCraft> now i cant acces it
[12:28] <the-erm> gruviovifo: pwd | nc termbin.com 9999
[12:28] <backbox> so may be you must do repartition
[12:28] <GoldCraft> this is what it says
[12:28] <GoldCraft> Error mounting /dev/sda6 at /media/anonymous/School: Command-line `mount -t "ntfs" -o "uhelper=udisks2,nodev,nosuid,uid=1000,gid=1000" "/dev/sda6" "/media/anonymous/School"' exited with non-zero exit status 14: The disk contains an unclean file system (0, 0).
[12:28] <GoldCraft> Metadata kept in Windows cache, refused to mount.
[12:28] <GoldCraft> Failed to mount '/dev/sda6': Operation not permitted
[12:28] <GoldCraft> The NTFS partition is in an unsafe state. Please resume and shutdown
[12:28] <GoldCraft> Windows fully (no hibernation or fast restarting), or mount the volume
[12:29] <gruviovifo> http://termbin.com/uaqu
[12:29] <k1l_> GoldCraft: shut off the "fake fast boot" setting for that partition inside windows
[12:29] <the-erm> gruviovifo: mkdir mnt-tmp
[12:29] <the-erm> gruviovifo: mount /dev/sda1 mnt-tmp
[12:29] <the-erm> cd mnt-tmp
[12:29] <backbox> i think you must use mini tool partition wizard
[12:30] <GoldCraft> @kill cant access windows. dual boot failed somehow
[12:30] <the-erm> If that works then run ls
[12:30] <k1l_> GoldCraft: http://winaero.com/blog/how-to-disable-or-enable-fast-startup-in-windows-8-1/
[12:30] <the-erm> the drive is now mounted
[12:30] <the-erm> to mnt-tmp
[12:30] <gruviovifo> http://pastebin.com/VFwaqC2y
[12:30] <zerox> Hi.
[12:30] <the-erm> I don't have much time ... I have things to do.
[12:31] <k1l_> GoldCraft: then use "sudo ntfsfix /dev/sdXY" but that could lead to dataloss.
[12:31] <zerox> I have two machines residing on the same home network, one can access https://tp.m-team.cc/, and can download torrent with transmission-daemon.
[12:31] <zerox> The other one can't.
[12:31] <zerox> Details: https://asciinema.org/a/45007
[12:31] <backbox> dose any one know about DARK WEB????
[12:31] <gruviovifo> the-erm, when i click on it on the file manager nothing shows up
[12:32] <k1l_> backbox: this channel is only for ubuntu support.
[12:32] <GoldCraft> @K1l if im restarting in the middle of the class and going into bios it will say a high bib cant do that
[12:32] <gruviovifo> wait, efi shows up, then some applications but thats it
[12:32] <mquin> GoldCraft: http://askubuntu.com/questions/145902/unable-to-mount-windows-ntfs-filesystem-due-to-hibernation
[12:32] <the-erm> gruviovifo: oh ... crap I don't have much experience with efi ...
[12:32] <mquin> at the very least I'd hope you can mount it read-only to get access to your files
[12:33] <BrAsS_mOnKeY> so I have win 10 and running ubuntu on vbox.  I have wireshark but trying to figure out how to monitor wifi.  I have ac router.
[12:35] <the-erm> Too bad there isn't an easy way to share the screen out of the box.
[12:36] <soee_> any idea how can i resize vda partition to use all free space ?
[12:36] <the-erm> troubleshooting in irc can be difficult
[12:36] <GoldCraft> guys none of that works but when i come home and if i install ubuntu instead of windows all ubuntu okay will it then place all the partions in one main partion?
[12:36] <the-erm> I think sda1 is the boot partition.
[12:36] <gruviovifo> ok
[12:38] <the-erm> gruviovifo:  so run cd ~; umount mnt-tmp and try sda2
[12:38] <gruviovifo> /home/ubuntu/mnt-tmp is not in the fstab (and you are not root)
[12:38] <the-erm> doh
[12:38] <chrisss123456> I'm running 15.04, and would like to upgrade to 16.04LTS. Software manager doesn't suggest it, and sudo apt-get dist-upgrade shows nothing. Any ideas?
[12:39] <the-erm> whats the output of df now?  df | nc termbin.com 9999
[12:39] <gruviovifo> http://termbin.com/ztai
[12:40] <the-erm> umount /home/ubuntu/mnt-tmp
[12:40] <the-erm> that should work.
[12:40] <gruviovifo> /home/ubuntu/mnt-tmp is not in the fstab (and you are not root)
[12:40] <the-erm> sudo umount /home/ubuntu/mnt-tmp
[12:41] <gruviovifo> ok
[12:41] <the-erm> sudo mount /dev/sda2 mnt-tmp
[12:41] <the-erm> ls mnt-tmp | nc termbin.com 9999
[12:42] <the-erm> What we're doing with the mount command is to mount the 2nd partition on the device sda to the folder mnt-tmp
[12:42] <gruviovifo> the-erm,  first one didnt do anything, i copied the second one but nothing happens
[12:43] <the-erm> df | nc termbin.com 9999
[12:43] <gruviovifo> http://pastebin.com/h6U9WFVw
[12:43] <gruviovifo> http://termbin.com/l7ary
[12:44] <the-erm> That's not good ... 2nd partition is jacked.
[12:44] <the-erm> Did you by chance try and format it to zfs?
[12:44] <gruviovifo> no
[12:44] <gruviovifo> not as far as i know
[12:45] <the-erm> Perhaps we should start with the question ... have you tried to install ubuntu onto this drive?
[12:45] <gruviovifo> ubuntu was already installed all of a sudden the laptop wouldnt boot up
[12:45] <gruviovifo> so when i went on safety mode
[12:46] <gruviovifo> it said that it couldnt mount
[12:46] <the-erm> So you previously had it working, but now it's not?
[12:46] <gruviovifo> target  file system doesnt have requested /sbin/init
[12:46] <gruviovifo> is what it said
[12:47] <gruviovifo> yep
[12:47] <the-erm> So to confirm ... you've managed to boot into ubuntu without a live cd/usb
[12:47] <gruviovifo> no
[12:48] <gruviovifo> when i boot up on safety mode
[12:48] <gruviovifo> i get a black screen saying target file system doesnt have requested /sbin/init
[12:48] <gruviovifo> no init found
[12:49] <the-erm> gruviovifo: does this look familiar http://askubuntu.com/questions/17647/target-filesystem-doesnt-have-requested-sbin-init
[12:49] <gruviovifo> i did that
[12:49] <gruviovifo> didnt work
[12:49] <the-erm> ok.
[12:49] <the-erm> Well the problem is with sda2
[12:50] <the-erm> sudo fsck /dev/sda2
[12:50] <gruviovifo> why?
[12:50] <the-erm> Because we couldn't mount sda2
[12:50] <the-erm> :)
[12:50] <the-erm> That's the one with the bad superblock.
[12:50] <gruviovifo> http://pastebin.com/FNfmzZP9
[12:51] <the-erm> This is definitely beyond my skill set.
[12:52] <Kasmodan> \quit
[12:52] <Kasmodan> quit
[12:52] <the-erm> I always get worried when I start running fsck ... I shouldn't but I do, and the thought of hosing your system scares me.
[12:52] <Kasmodan> \quit
[12:52] <Myrtti> Kasmodan: /
[12:52] <the-erm> Is there any data on this drive that you don't want to loose?
[12:52] <BrAsS_mOnKeY> /part
[12:52] <BrAsS_mOnKeY> :)
[12:53] <gruviovifo> the-erm, yes, otherwise i would have just reinstalled
[12:53] <gruviovifo> if i could access the data i would just copy it and do a clean reinstall
[12:53] <the-erm> What version of ubuntu?
[12:54] <gruviovifo> er
[12:54] <UbuntuDude> what is the different between wifi vs wifi-hw and wwan vs wwan-hw? that is what nmcli shows me!!!
[12:54] <gruviovifo> 14.04.3
[12:55] <the-erm> Ok good ...
[12:55] <UbuntuDude> btw, my pc has no wimax yet nmcli still shows wwan enabled!! what is that?
[12:56] <the-erm> gruviovifo: I'm not 100% sure what to do at this point.
[12:57] <ridders24> hi I'm trying to recover files which have been deleted inside a ecryptfs users area. Does photorec and extundelete do the same thing?
[12:58] <the-erm> I'm not sure if we should fix the errors or not since it's ufi ...
[13:00] <the-erm> http://pastebin.com/FNfmzZP9 is sitting there waiting for a Y/N ...
[13:00] <the-erm> Is there anyone else in the room that can give some advice on this situation?
[13:01] <gruviovifo> so i say y ?
[13:01] <the-erm> It's your decision.
[13:01] <the-erm> I can't pull that trigger.
[13:01] <the-erm> We're talking about loosing data here.
[13:02] <the-erm> If there is mission critical data on the drive I'd get a 2nd opinion.
[13:02] <the-erm> Are you trying to dual boot?
[13:02] <gruviovifo> no
[13:02] <gruviovifo> i have only ubuntu
[13:02] <the-erm> ok.
[13:03] <the-erm> have you heard of spnrite ?
[13:03] <the-erm> How old is the drive?
[13:04] <gruviovifo> the-erm, no, im a noob
[13:05] <bioakbmc> hello
[13:05] <hapster> Hi. I'd just like to ask if wine games will still work with Mir?
[13:07] <chrisss123456> I'm running 15.04, and would like to upgrade to 16.04LTS. Software manager doesn't suggest it, and sudo apt-get dist-upgrade shows nothing. Any ideas?
[13:08] <the-erm> I'm checking another irc room right now ... looking for other smart people.
[13:08] <the-erm> :)
[13:08] <Fuchs> chrisss123456: dist-upgrade doesn't update past versions, the command is named a bit misleading
[13:08] <Fuchs> chrisss123456: you could use the update-manager with the -d option
[13:09] <k1l_> chrisss123456: you need to go to 15.10 first.
[13:09] <Pici> Fuchs: from 15.04 you need to ^
[13:09] <Fuchs> chrisss123456: or adapt the sources.list and then do a dist-upgrade. I'd recommend a backup in either case
[13:09] <gruviovifo> the-erm, thank you
[13:09] <k1l_> chrisss123456: use "sudo do-release-upgrade " in cli. dont use the -d switch. that is for developer and will hose your system
[13:09] <Fuchs> Pici: update manager should do that, and if you edit sources: no, no you don't
[13:10] <chrisss123456> k1l_: It says No new release :/
[13:10] <Pici> Fuchs: well, sure, but with the systemd migration I prefer to play things safe and let the upgrade manager handle any extra steps that need to be peformed.
[13:10] <k1l_> chrisss123456: "lsb_release -d" lists what version number?
[13:10] <Fuchs> Pici: that's why I recommended the backup :)
[13:10] <hateball> !eolupgrade
[13:10] <Fuchs> Pici: anyway, btdt, it does work, but that was a fairly standard configuration  (at work)
[13:10] <chrisss123456> k1l_: Description:       Ubuntu 15.04
[13:11] <k1l_> Fuchs: we dont advice users in here to ruin their systems on purpose.
[13:11] <Fuchs> k1l_: neither did I
[13:11] <chrisss123456> Fuchs: None of the commands give anything indicative of an upgrade...
[13:11] <chrisss123456> k1l_: thoughts?
[13:12] <k1l_> chrisss123456: what is the output of "tail -n 1 /etc/update-manager/release-upgrades"
[13:13] <Fuchs> chrisss123456: technically you could adapt the sources and go with a dist-upgrade, at one point it's questionable though whether you shouldn't just backup your personal data and put that back on a fresh installation of 16.04   (and that backup is recommended in either case)
[13:13] <chrisss123456> k1l_: Prompt=lts
[13:14] <k1l_> chrisss123456: ok, that is the issue
[13:14] <chrisss123456> k1l_: Ok. What does it mean?
[13:14] <k1l_> chrisss123456: is this a desktop version?
[13:14] <chrisss123456> k1l_: Laptop :P
[13:14] <the-erm> gruviovifo: it looks like sudo fsck /dev/sda2 is our only option at this point ...
[13:15] <k1l_> we need to set this to "normal" instead of ruining your system like other users in here suggested with developer upgrades or fiddeling with the sources that will result in a ruined system
[13:15] <gruviovifo> the-erm, ok
[13:15] <k1l_> chrisss123456: go to systemsettings -> software and updates. then change your "look for system upgrades" from "LTS only" to "every release"
[13:15] <Rochvellon> you get the update to another LTS in June/July when the first Service Release is available
[13:15] <gruviovifo> the-erm, http://pastebin.com/9q7qTd5k
[13:16] <the-erm> you might not want to pipe it :)
[13:16] <jeeger> Greetings! I'm running ubuntu inside vagrant, and I  occasionally don't have an internet connection. Starting my VM then takes about 3 minutes, due to cloud-init-nonet waiting for a long timeout. Is there a way to shorten or disable this timeout?
[13:16] <k1l_> Rochvellon: he doesnt. he is on 15.04 which is no LTS. so there will be no lts upgrade
[13:16] <jerrfry> Does anyone know the difference between Virtualbox shipped with Mint rather than Ubuntu? virtual machines can be completely full screened in mint, while in ubuntu they do not adjust to moniter size...
[13:16] <the-erm> Is it mounted in df
[13:16] <Rochvellon> k1l_: kk
[13:16] <chrisss123456> k1l_: Done.
[13:17] <gruviovifo> the-erm, i didnt understand that last part
[13:17] <Fuchs> jerrfry: two guesses:  1) the virtualbox guest additions not being installed  2) the GPU driver
[13:17] <k1l_> chrisss123456: now your update-manager or do-release-upgrade should prompt for the upgrade
[13:17] <jerrfry> thanks
[13:17] <chrisss123456> Running do-releas-upgrade and it seems to work! :) thanks so much! no idea why that would have stopped it... 16.04 is LTS! I'll do it after backing up.
[13:17] <the-erm> gruviovifo: I was referring to the | nc
[13:17] <compdoc> there is also the unity desktop vs the mint desktop
[13:18] <gruviovifo> what now?
[13:18] <Fuchs> compdoc: that should theoretically not matter in this case
[13:18] <gruviovifo> e2fsck: Cannot continue, aborting.
[13:18] <k1l_> chrisss123456: this will bring you to 15.10. after that you can upgrade again to the 16.04
[13:18] <the-erm> I know ...
[13:19] <the-erm> what is the output of df
[13:19] <the-erm> if /dev/sda2 shows up it's mounted
[13:19] <chrisss123456> k1l_: Ah, that must be it.
[13:19] <chrisss123456> Will do! Thanks! :)
[13:20] <the-erm> df | nc termbin.com 9999
[13:21] <Fuchs> err? Why df?  mount, without parameters, should show all mounted filesystems
[13:21] <gruviovifo> the-erm, http://pastebin.kubuntu-de.org/629
[13:21] <the-erm> I like the format of df
[13:21] <the-erm> also ... I didn't know mount did that.
[13:21] <Fuchs> it's somewhat it's main purpose ;p
[13:22] <Fuchs> *its, even
[13:23] <the-erm> Fuchs: do you have any experience with the error "target file system doesnt have requested /sbin/init" ?
[13:23] <the-erm> gruviovifo: is having a challenge.
[13:23] <Fuchs> the-erm: getting that out of grub, or when?
[13:23] <the-erm> gruviovifo?
[13:24] <gruviovifo> how do you mean?
[13:24] <gruviovifo> when i boot up
[13:24] <gruviovifo> on safety mode
[13:24] <gruviovifo> otherwise it doesn't boot up
[13:24] <gruviovifo> i just get a black screen
[13:24] <the-erm> It's a system with eufi on it, and from the output I've seen there's a bad superblock on sda2
[13:25] <Fuchs> then fsck is definitely a good idea. From a live system, as I assume that sda2 is /
[13:25] <the-erm> fsck should fix it, but it is claiming sda2 is in use..
[13:25] <Fuchs> then mount   (without parameters) should show why and where, if not:  lsof  definitely will
[13:25] <the-erm> No gruviovifo is on a live cd.
[13:26] <the-erm> ... why didn't I think of lsof ... doi
[13:27] <the-erm> I unfortunately have to step away
[13:28] <Fuchs> gruviovifo: can I see the output of   mount    and    lsof | grep sda     please?
[13:28] <Fuchs> (similar to what you did above, just replace "df"  with the above commands each)
[13:29] <gruviovifo> http://pastebin.kubuntu-de.org/630
[13:29] <gruviovifo> the-erm, thanks for all your help~
[13:31] <gruviovifo> http://pastebin.kubuntu-de.org/631
[13:33] <Fuchs> okay, that is odd
[13:33] <Fuchs> it's not mounted regularly, but gvfs might be using it
[13:35] <Fuchs> gruviovifo: can I see a    gvfs-mount --list     please?
[13:36] <gruviovifo> http://pastebin.kubuntu-de.org/632
[13:37] <tim241> does someone knows how to reverse su in a shell script?
[13:37] <Fuchs> gruviovifo: okay, and an fdisk -l    please  (that's a lower case L)
[13:37] <Fuchs> tim241: reverse su?
[13:37] <tim241> yea I mean:
[13:37] <Fuchs> tim241: su can be used to run commands as any user, it's just the default behaviour to take root when none is given
[13:37] <gruviovifo> Fuchs, if I enter fdisk -l nothing happens
[13:37] <tim241> dont be su anymore in a script
[13:37] <gruviovifo> it goes back to prompt
[13:38] <tim241> after running as root
[13:38] <zykotick9> gruviovifo: add "sudo" so "sudo fdisk -l"
[13:38] <Fuchs> gruviovifo: that is ... interesting. You don't have LVM or other special setups, do you?
[13:38] <sdaaw> !pastebin
[13:38] <zykotick9> Fuchs: i'd guess it's a VM or something, based on that /cow for /
[13:38] <gruviovifo> http://pastebin.kubuntu-de.org/633
[13:38] <Rumbles> hmmmm, my boss has put 16.04 on a laptop with xfce, he's just handed it to me and asked me to fix it because his cursor has disappeared.... if you mouse over something the colours change, but there is no cursor icon... reboot fixed temprarily, but it reoccured, any suggestions as to how to fix this issue?
[13:38] <Fuchs> tim241: yeah, you can su(do) stuff as whatever user you like, you just have to specify it
[13:39] <Fuchs> zykotick9: that would make it a bit super tricky, then
[13:39] <zykotick9> Fuchs: just a guess.... ask the Origional Poster
[13:40] <Fuchs> ah, GPT
[13:40] <gruviovifo> i didnt do anything
[13:40] <sdaaw> please guys, my CASE only return 0 : http://paste.ubuntu.com/16318053/
[13:40] <Fuchs> gruviovifo: um, are you sure you are supposed to have an sda2, not sda1?
[13:41] <Pici> sdaaw: this sounds like a better question for #bash
[13:41] <sdaaw> Pici: ok sorry :-(
[13:41] <gruviovifo> Fuchs, I don't understand the question, very noob, sorry, i have a 1tb hard drive from what i understand
[13:41] <Fuchs> gruviovifo: anyway:  sudo parted /dev/sda print    this, please
[13:42] <Fuchs> if there is no sda2, only sda1, you probably only have to run fsck on that one   (even if that was the wrong one, fsck should not break anything, else it will warn you)
[13:42] <gruviovifo> http://pastebin.kubuntu-de.org/634
[13:42] <tim241> my script: http://pastebin.com/91BRj1Ff
[13:42] <Fuchs> huh, okay. Odd. Really odd.
[13:44] <Fuchs> gruviovifo: the best thing I could recommend is booting something that doesn't attempt to mount your disk and then run fsck from there
[13:44] <gruviovifo> how do i do it?
[13:44] <Fuchs> gruviovifo: so basically a rescue system that doesn't put you into a full graphical session
[13:45] <gruviovifo> is there another way of doing that? i dont want to be stuck without access to here
[13:46] <Fuchs> gruviovifo: none that I'd recommend, really. you don't have a second computer at hand then, I guess?
[13:46] <gruviovifo> Fuchs, nope, that's why this is crucial to me
[13:47] <gruviovifo> is there no way of just accessing the partition copying and apsting some files and then reinstalling?
[13:47] <Fuchs> gruviovifo: anyway, booting something like system rescue cd  (named like that) and just logging in as root (should be the default), then  fsck /dev/sda2  should do the trick, and fsck will tell you when something is wrong and ask you what to do, you can abort if unsure
[13:47] <Fuchs> gruviovifo: not if you can't mount it, I'm afraid. And it looks like you can't. I wonder though why something like gvfs would try to access it, fail and keep blocking the device
[13:48] <gruviovifo> gvfs?
[13:48] <Fuchs> a virtual file system layer for gnome, ignore the details
[13:49] <Fuchs> short version is: something is trying to access the disk, so fsck refuses to fix it (because that indeed could damage it), so you'd need to boot into an environment where this isnt' the case and run fsck
[13:49] <Fuchs> afterwards you should be able to use your system normally as before
[13:49] <rangergord> Hi. How can I tell if the latest Ubuntu has the driver for the RTL8723AU wifi chip?
[13:49] <gruviovifo> Fuchs,  ok so how do i do that, boot without accessing the disk, etc
[13:50] <lyze> Fuchs: regarding the problem with gruviovifo , couldn't you boot into a normal ubu live cd and kill the gui?
[13:50] <lyze> rangergord, install a live cd, boot from that, try it out would be probably not the best solution, but it works
[13:50] <lyze> * download a live cd
[13:51] <rangergord> lyze: was hoping for a faster way, but OK, thx
[13:51] <lyze> ah alright ... perhaps somebody else knows a faster solution ^v^
[13:51] <gruviovifo> I am on a livecd
[13:55] <curlyears> morning
[13:56] <Fuchs> gruviovifo: just booting into the above mentioned live system (which isn't an ubuntu, but as you need one single command: not an issue) should work
[13:57] <Fuchs> gruviovifo: you might not have a graphical user interface, but all you need to do is login as root  (empty password) and execute the fsck command  (fsck /dev/sda2)  and follow the instructions on screen
[13:57] <gruviovifo> ok so where do i get this live system
[13:58] <curlyears> I am still having a problem getting a DVD to burn )-:
[13:58] <Rumbles> dd to USB instead?
[13:58] <django_> hey
[13:59] <curlyears> I have tried the burner that came with the 14.04.4, no work.  I have tries xfburn, no work.  Not sure what to do.
[13:59] <django_> any one have a lenovo? idk how to disable fn key!!
[13:59] <user123> download your distribution, after the boot prompt there is a window where you can choose live installation, is all is working well because drivers are installed in kernel you can with one mouseclick installation on harddisk begin
[13:59] <tim241> take a hammer smash the fn key done
[14:00] <gruviovifo> Fuchs, this https://www.system-rescue-cd.org/Sysresccd-manual-en_Downloading_and_burning ?
[14:00] <a40ntistos> Hello everyone, I neeed your help please :)
[14:00] <Fuchs> gruviovifo: exactly :)
[14:00] <gruviovifo> can i access this chatroom from my phone?
[14:01] <vijaikumar> gruviovifo, try irccloud
[14:01] <curlyears> xfburn, in particular behaves oddly:  i load a disc into the tray and close it.  I run xfburn,  xfburn comesip, complains that theree is no optical drive available.  I check, the optical cdrive is  being listed as busy.  I unmount it and try again, and xfburn still says no optical drive, check, and it's busy, beingg held by xfburn ?
[14:02] <curlyears> what is your problem, a40ntistos ?
[14:02] <gruviovifo> Fuchs, is there a way of getting that for free?
[14:02] <Fuchs> gruviovifo: isn't it?
[14:02]  * curlyears loves free
[14:03] <gruviovifo> https://www.osdisc.com/products/linux/systemrescuecd?affiliate=sysresccd
[14:03] <Fuchs> gruviovifo: ouch, nevermind, let's take a different one then, there are plenty
[14:03] <goans> hello
[14:03] <gruviovifo> https://www.system-rescue-cd.org/Download ?
[14:03] <goans> i am a new ubuntu
[14:03] <a40ntistos> curlyears:  It is a strange one :) Everytime that speaker works on my laptop (16.04) when the song or video finished I'm hearing a voice from the speaker
[14:04] <Fuchs> gruviovifo  http://gparted.org/livecd.php   should do, and has a GUI, but as far as memory serves not gnome, so it should not give you the same issue
[14:04] <a40ntistos> curlyears: like a static electrism voice
[14:04] <curlyears> ah, they're seeling you pre-written media, gruviovifo .  you should be able to d/l an .iso from somewhere for free
[14:05] <gruviovifo> Fuchs, i am downloading the iso but i am on the livecd....how does this work out?
[14:05] <gruviovifo> i take out the livecd and...
[14:05] <ducasse> curlyears: the easiest way to debug burning would probably be with a cli tool in verbose mode.
[14:05] <curlyears> a40ntistos, uhm, your laptop is haunted?
[14:05] <Fuchs> gruviovifo: create USB media, maybe?
[14:05] <gruviovifo> no usb
[14:06] <a40ntistos> curlyears: lol :)
[14:07] <curlyears> a40ntistos, seriously, I have no clue, but then I am not much with audio  on the cimouter anyway.  I listen to music on a good old analog stereo system
[14:07] <Fuchs> gruviovifo: arg. Okay. Otherwise then. Boot the live CD into rescue mode, let me quickly see how this is done on more recent ones
[14:07] <a40ntistos> curlyears: when the sound works everything is ok, after that is like the speaker can't properly close? or somethng like that
[14:08] <gruviovifo> Fuchs, I am getting irrc cloud to be able to access this chatroom from her
[14:08] <curlyears> the problem is that once the application stops outputting the sound, there is no source for it.  Is it a voice, or just crackling noises?
[14:09] <user123> have you run dmesg in the terminal?
[14:09] <curlyears> if it's just crackling noise, it could be that the sound chip or the ouput amplifier are fried
[14:10] <Fuchs> gruviovifo: technically you should be able to reboot the live CD and instead of "try Ubuntu" just hit CTRL+ALT+F1, log in as root (should be empty password, I think) and issue the fsck command
[14:10] <user123> there is a sound tool in terminal , didn t know the name yet
[14:11] <curlyears> fuchs:  really?  I was unaware of that capability
[14:12] <MacroMan> Is there a utility similar to AutoHotKey available for Linux?
[14:12] <user123> cat /proc/asound/cards im terminal eingeben
[14:12] <curlyears> that ubuntu install .iso is one impressive piece of technology
[14:12] <MacroMan> Basically want to define my own hotkeys to send pre-defined keyboard input
[14:13] <gruviovifo> i got irccloud and logged in as yrittaja but it is not letting me send the messages for some reason
[14:13] <yrittaja> Trial
[14:13] <gruviovifo> haha great
[14:13] <curlyears> yrittaja, there you go
[14:13] <user123> https://wiki.ubuntuusers.de/Sound_Problembehebung/#Installation look on this page
[14:14] <yrittaja> Ok Fuchs, let me know what to do when you re ready
[14:14] <user123> i am going off, bye
[14:14] <Fuchs> yrittaja: well, if you manage to log in on the terminal (CTRL+ALT+F1, but after a reboot and _without_ going into the graphical session) technically a   fsck /dev/sda2   should do the trick
[14:15] <gruviovifo> with the livecd?
[14:15] <gruviovifo> can you break down step by step what i should do Fuchs
[14:15] <Fuchs> with the livecd
[14:16] <Fuchs> gruviovifo:  1) reboot  2) do _not_ select "try ubuntu" or log in graphically  3) instead, see if CTRL+ALT+F1 puts you on a terminal with a login prompt 4) if yes, log in as root,  (that is the username) with no password  5) if that works:  fsck /dev/sda2
[14:16] <Fuchs> gruviovifo: I'm afraid I have to go to a meeting now, pretty sure that others can help too though, if you tell them that all you need to do is fsck /dev/sda2
[14:17] <TollsPaid> quick question: if i want windows, ubuntu dual boot, what should i have first on the boot priority? HDD or Windows Boot Manager?
[14:17] <gruviovifo> ok
[14:18] <simple_nick> hi
[14:18] <simple_nick> E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11: Resource temporarily unavailable) E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[14:18] <lerner> some applications (ocrfeeder, krop) cannot be started from the gui. I have to open them from cli. why?
[14:18] <simple_nick> i am getting this error, when updating ubuntu
[14:18] <yrittaja> Thanks Fuchs
[14:19] <kiran_> Did you guys know there's ubuntu shirts?
[14:20] <yrittaja> Fuchs ctrl alt f1 did not put me on terminal
[14:21] <kiran_> Ubuntu software center have nothing useful now...
[14:21] <kiran_> has*
[14:21] <yrittaja> Ok entered c for command line
[14:21] <hpvs17e> simple_nick,  close the software center, synaptic or any other software managers you have open,  try updating again.  if the problem is stll there then  sudo rm /var/lib/dpkg/lock   in a terminal.
[14:25] <kiran_> How do you get microsoft core fonts on ubuntu?
[14:26] <lyze> !info ttf-mscorefonts-installer
[14:28] <TollsPaid> quick question: if i want windows and ubuntu dual boot, what should i have first on the boot priority? HDD or Windows Boot Manager?
[14:28] <ducasse> lerner: they probably don't have .desktop files.
[14:28] <lyze> The hdd wherr you have grub installed in TollsPaid
[14:28] <lyze> windows boot manager doesnt recognize linux
[14:28] <TollsPaid> thanks lyze
[14:29] <yrittaja> I tried to run fsck from grub didnt work, can anyone help me with what Fuchs was helping me with please?
[14:29] <TheSilentLink> hello whats the best terminal program for lubuntu?
[14:29] <Guest2024> hey! how can i find the package containing the unicode symbols for shift tab caps etc. that onboard uses ?
[14:29] <TollsPaid> i think my laptop overrides boot priority though -.-
[14:29] <Amm0n> Hello, i'm using the grub crypt modules to encrypt a /boot partition, it's working fine except for the time it needs to unlock a keyslot. After i typed the pw it takes 10+ sec to open the keyslot. Anyone got an idea how to debug this?
[14:29] <platzhirsch> I have troubles with cryptab. Which UUID should I put into /etc/crypttab? The one of the bootloader or the main partition? Because I get prompted for a password when I boot my machine
[14:29] <curlyears> I am flummoxed. I tried the instructions at ubuntu.com on h ow to burn an iso.  I place a fresh DVD blank in slot. close tray, navigate to my .iso file in my Downloads dir, right-click it, select "write to disk" and it comes up with my ios filename in the file to burn window, but claims there are no options available for device to burn to
[14:30] <ducasse> TheSilentLink: roxterm is very nice.
[14:31] <juser> curlyears, are you dual boot windows and ubuntu?
[14:31] <curlyears> the DVD recognizes and reads already written discs, so what the ???
[14:31] <Amm0n> platzhirsch, what are you trying to achive?
[14:31] <TheSilentLink> ducasse, ok thanks will try it out!
[14:32] <curlyears> every DVD burning package I try is failing in simialr fashion.  It must be something I am ding wrong, but I can't figure it out
[14:32] <platzhirsch> Amm0n: I get Please enter passphrase for disk cryptswap1 on none! at boot up and I can continue by pressing enter
[14:33] <platzhirsch> I want to get rid of this message. From googling I learned the UUID in /etc/crypttab needs updating
[14:33] <ducasse> TheSilentLink: if you don't like it, take a look at rxvt-unicode. it lacks session support, though, if you need that.
[14:34] <Fuchs> yrittaja: you are not supposed to run it from GRUB, you need to run the live CD
[14:34] <Amm0n> platzhirsch, the UUID of the swap partition
[14:34] <TheSilentLink> ducasse, no its great plus the multiple tabs so useful which was lacking from the default one. Whats session support by the way?
[14:34] <platzhirsch> Amm0n: oh right!
[14:35] <Fuchs> yrittaja: if you can't get to a terminal from that screen: meh, go for "try ubuntu", and try to switch to a terminal (same key combo) as soon as possible and hope that whatever blocks the disk hasn't kicked in yet
[14:35] <yrittaja> Fuchs, if I just do a reinstall will it work?
[14:35] <Fuchs> yrittaja: yes, but you'll obviously lose all data
[14:35] <platzhirsch> Amm0n: well that's the one in there
[14:35] <Fuchs> yrittaja: assuming you format the disk, which you'll have to do
[14:35] <ducasse> TheSilentLink: things like Xfce needs it if you want to start up some terminals automatically when you log in. but of course there are ways around that.
[14:35] <platzhirsch> still getting this message. Can I use the UUID of the whole disk?
[14:36] <TheSilentLink> ducasse, o ok so it starts the terminal at login and starts to run code right?
[14:36] <yrittaja> Fuchs are you gushing out right now? Let me make a call
[14:36] <ducasse> TheSilentLink: it can, if you configure it to.
[14:37] <TheSilentLink> ducasse, o ok thanks new to linux!
[14:37] <Fuchs> yrittaja: I am mostly away currently. As said: the thing you need to do is run that one simple fsck command, the problem is: the disk can't be in use for that. So you somehow have to achieve that.
[14:37] <ducasse> TheSilentLink: you're welcome :)
[14:37] <Amm0n> platzhirsch, are you trying to create an encrypted swap partition or entire root?
[14:38] <platzhirsch> Amm0n: neither, I just installed Ubuntu with home directory encrypted
[14:38] <curlyears> every DVD burning package I try is failing in simialr fashion.  It must be something I am ding wrong, but I can't figure it out
[14:38] <curlyears> can someone assist me in burning the 16.03 iso to a DVD uder 14.04.4?
[14:39] <yrittaja> Ok Fuchs, i am good for a reinstall according to fred
[14:39] <curlyears> hello??????
[14:40] <juser> curlyears, hello
[14:40] <lotuspsychje> !patience | curlyears
[14:40] <auronandace> curlyears: i like using xfburn, that alwayworks for me
[14:40] <auronandace> curlyears: how are you burning the image?
[14:40] <platzhirsch> Amm0n: seems to be a system bug, but I assumed it has been fixed since people struggle with this since 14.04
[14:40] <curlyears> juser: I feel as if I am being ignored or something
[14:41] <Amm0n> platzhirsch, isn't this just ecryptfs? i have no idea what ubuntu is doing there
[14:41] <platzhirsch> Amm0n: yeah should be
[14:41] <juser> I have burned iso images without trouble.
[14:41] <curlyears> lotuspsychje, are you seriously teling me no one active in here knows how to burn and iso DVD?
[14:41] <curlyears> juser:  so have I, but I can't seem to get it to work this time
[14:42] <lotuspsychje> curlyears: lets not discuss that here, feel free to join #ubuntu-discuss
[14:43] <curlyears> lotuspsychje, :  I am TRYING to get technical support for a issue I am having, bnot chitchatting
[14:43] <lotuspsychje> curlyears: then have a little patience, and dont use this channel for chitchat
[14:43] <juser> curlyears, I have been using ubuntu less than a week so I should not be giving advice.
[14:43] <curlyears> and furthermoe, nno one EVER responds in #ubuntu-offtopic
[14:44] <EriC^^> what's your issue
[14:44] <Amm0n> platzhirsch, you could add a keyfile to open the encrypted swap and store it at a save location, or use a swapfile in this encrypted home
[14:45] <curlyears> lotuspsychje, "patience?"   I've been asking this since yesterday afternoon
[14:45] <lotuspsychje> curlyears: again, lets not discuss that here
[14:45] <jonah> hi can anyone please help me out with a permissions/chown problem
[14:45] <EriC^^> curlyears: are you a milf?
[14:45] <juser> curlyears, stupid question: are you sure the DVD drive is a burner?
[14:46] <curlyears> lotuspsychje, then stop giving me ubotto lectures about being patient. i HAVE been
[14:46] <jonah> I've ran a script by accident from root dir instead of the right dir and it's mashed a few things up,just trying to track down what it will have changed if anyone can please help
[14:46] <curlyears> jonah: what was the script, and what did it access?
[14:47] <ducasse> curlyears: I posted a reply to you a little while ago.
[14:47] <jonah> curlyears: thanks for helping! The script was this one: https://doc.owncloud.org/server/8.0/admin_manual/installation/installation_wizard.html#setting-strong-directory-permissions
[14:47] <curlyears> ducasse:  possibly I  missed that while I was persuing other suggested solutions
[14:47] <jonah> curlyears: what I can't figure out though is it threw up loads of errors before I realised and hit ctrl-c, errors basically saying dir not found and file does not exist
[14:48] <Pici> /25/25
[14:48] <jonah> curlyears: because I put the ocpath as '/' instead of just empty ''
[14:48] <jonah> curlyears: so what I can't understand is how it managed to change anything if when it looked for say /lib it gave the error //lib not found...
[14:48] <ducasse> curlyears: the easiest way to debug burning would probably be with a cli tool in verbose mode.
[14:49] <ducasse> curlyears: try wodim, for example.
[14:49] <platzhirsch> Amm0n: yeah :)
[14:49] <curlyears> well, jonah, that script is  a little above my paygrade, sorry\
[14:49] <jonah> curlyears: it started running, a load of folders don't exist errors sprang up and I was like "oh sh**" and hit ctrl-c
[14:50] <jonah> curlyears: then I couldn't run any commands etc
[14:50] <juser> jonah, that's why you make backups.
[14:51] <EriC^^> jonah: the script isn't cwd dependent
[14:51] <EriC^^> you're good
[14:51] <jonah> juser: i know, and i do have backups, but i did some work this mornign that i'd rather not lose and also just the time trying to restore everything, i've got over 1tb all zipped up as backup so it would be pretty slow. I'd hoped someone might be able to help isolate what files have changed so I can adjust them back...
[14:52] <curlyears> cd DownloadsI have never even heard of wodim, and doing wodim --help | more scrolls the help screen so fast I never see the top  of it, which more should prevent
[14:53] <jonah> EriC^^: well after I ran it nothign worked any more! well I couldn't run commands and also i host a few sites on apache with it and they gave forbidden errors...
[14:53] <EriC^^> jonah: the script doesn't care which dir you're in when you execute it
[14:53] <EriC^^> it uses ${ocpath}/path and ${ocpath}=/var/www/owncloud
[14:53] <hpvs17e> curlyears,  wodim --help | less
[14:53] <ducasse> curlyears: read the man page, just scroll down to the 'examples' section :)
[14:53] <juser> curlyears, pipe to less instead
[14:54] <jonah> EriC^^: yeah what a killer. But what I don't understand is I set the 'ocpath' as '/' so when I ran the script it complained that //app/somefile for example wasn't found. So I'm not sure how it could change anything if it was trying // for everything??
[14:54] <EriC^^> if it said dir not found you probably have some missing files there or something like that
[14:54] <juser> curlyears,  wodim --help | less
[14:54] <juser> less is better than more
[14:54] <EriC^^> joar_: why'd you set ocpath to "/" ?
[14:55] <hpvs17e> curlyears,  "less" provides page up and page down
[14:55] <EriC^^> jonah: it'd change a shit load
[14:55] <jonah> EriC^^: well you set the path and then it changes everything in that path and in apps/ config/ data/ themes/ etc - but if it errored on //apps does not exist, I don't get how it broke my system...
[14:55] <EriC^^> specifically these 2 lines
[14:55] <EriC^^> find ${ocpath}/ -type d -print0 | xargs -0 chmod 0750
[14:55] <EriC^^> find ${ocpath}/ -type f -print0 | xargs -0 chmod 0640
[14:55] <EriC^^> pretty much game over
[14:56] <jonah> EriC^^: really? even though it was find$// as I say?
[14:56] <jonah> EriC^^: and not find$/
[14:56] <EriC^^> jonah: yup
[14:57] <EriC^^> it would go through everything
[14:57] <nacc> jonah: // and / are the same directory
[14:58] <nacc> meaning you just changed everything under /'s permissions
[14:58] <nacc> jonah: meaning, everything's permissions...
[14:59] <EriC^^> jonah: did you run it with sudo?
[14:59] <jonah> nacc: ah ok so // is root dir. but is //apps/ still /apps/ - cos as I say it did complain a lot about folders not existing when I ran it...??
[14:59] <curlyears> ok, weird.  The system thinks my 14,04.4 iso disc is in the drive, but it's npt, there's a blank disc in.  I am certain, because I am looking at my 14.04 disc right now.  why would it still be listed in /media/tkeller/
[14:59] <jonah> EriC^^: yes I think I did unfortunately, even worse I may have already done sudo su and then ran it!!
[15:00] <EriC^^> jonah: those were probably the later script stuff, that look for ${ocpath}/stuff , how long did you let it run?
[15:00] <EriC^^> jonah: backup much?
[15:00] <jonah> EriC^^: it ran for maybe 5 seconds maybe 10 at the most before I hit ctrl c
[15:00] <ducasse> curlyears: did you cleanly unmount it?
[15:00] <EriC^^> hmm, that's not too bad
[15:00] <nacc> jonah: if // and / are the same, then yes, //apps and /apps are the same
[15:00] <jonah> EriC^^: yes I do have full backups, but just I did a load of work this morning and didn't want to lose it
[15:01] <EriC^^> jonah: take a look in /bin to see the permissions
[15:01] <EriC^^> try ls -l /bin/umount
[15:01] <curlyears> ducasse;   I thought I did.  describe a 'clean unmount' of a DVD for me
[15:01] <EriC^^> it should be setuid
[15:01] <EriC^^> -rwsr-xr-x
[15:01] <ducasse> curlyears: just a successful umount ;)
[15:02] <curlyears> I tried to rm -r the drive from /media/tkeller, but it failed, complaining it is a read only fs
[15:02] <curlyears> n, I didn't execute an explicit umount
[15:02] <ducasse> curlyears: won't do it. look in the output from 'mount'
[15:03] <jonah> EriC^^: ok done ls -l /bin/umount and I've got "-rwsr-xr-x 1 root root Sep 2 2015 /bin/umount"
[15:03] <EriC^^> jonah: looks good
[15:03] <jonah> EriC^^: the system seems to boot ok but I can't run commands
[15:04] <jonah> EriC^^: I've got the raid mounted with a livecd at the moment
[15:04] <EriC^^> jonah: what does it say when you try
[15:04] <yrittaja> Fuchs:  doing clean install, thx for all your help
[15:04] <jonah> EriC^^: I also tried to run ls -lRt | more which I thought would just show me the files altered today but can't see a lot that's changed and not sure where to look...
[15:05] <jonah> EriC^^: i appreciate this Eric by the way, as I'm sure it can be saved, like I say if I could just track down which files got adjusted in that 10 seconds it would save me loads of agro trying to reinstall the server and put all the data back...
[15:06] <ducasse> curlyears: if the cd shows up in the 'mount' listing, you need to run 'sudo umount /Æmedia/tkeller' - you might need the '-f' option if you have removed the disc.
[15:07] <EriC^^> jonah: try sudo find / -mtime 1
[15:07] <EriC^^> it shows the files modified in the last 24 hours
[15:07] <EriC^^> jonah: hmm i think chmod's don't count
[15:08] <jonah> EriC^^: ah that doesn't give me anything - and it could be because I'm mounted up in a livecd??
[15:08] <EriC^^> jonah: try ls -ld /
[15:08] <EriC^^> on the root filesystem
[15:08] <ducasse> curlyears: i'm also guessing this is why cd burning didn't work, the system saw the drive as busy from a disc that had been removed but not unmounted.
[15:09] <jonah> EriC^^: the other thing is i have a few partitions. currently i'm in the partition that has bin and most of the os stuff
[15:09] <EriC^^> jonah: aha, which was the main one?
[15:09] <juser> ducasse, count also type  umount /dev/sr0  ( or whatever the device is )
[15:09] <jonah> EriC^^: that command gives me just one line "drwxr-xr-x root root 4096 Apr 5 17:06 . "
[15:10] <EriC^^> ok
[15:10] <EriC^^> jonah: try sudo find / -type f -perm 0640
[15:11] <SchrodingersScat> could maybe also look for those with the group www-data where it shouldn't be?
[15:12] <nik> hi gays
[15:12] <dmto> sup ferg
[15:12] <nik> *guys
[15:12] <dmto> fag*
[15:12] <ducasse> juser: yes, but since he had posted the mount point above i used that.
[15:13] <jonah> EriC^^: ah wow, that's just given me loads of files! in ./boot ./lib ./etc/ and sub dirs of those!
[15:13] <EriC^^> jonah: aha, those are bad ones
[15:13] <EriC^^> jonah: try sudo find / -type d -perm 0750
[15:13] <nik> anyone install ms office 2010 by Wine?
[15:13] <EriC^^> that might be good cause it runs after the first find
[15:14] <Pici> !appdb | nik
[15:15] <jonah> EriC^^: I could restore just those files maybe from backup?? with the second command I get loads of permissions denieds outputted, if I run with sudo on the front of the command I don't get any output at all...
[15:15] <EriC^^> ok, yeah
[15:15] <EriC^^> from the backup do this
[15:15] <jonah> EriC^^: oh yeah sorry you did say to put sudo, yes no output on that second command at all
[15:16] <curlyears> I don't understand.  I put the 14.04 disc back in, and it shows in the launcher that it's mounted, and only one instance of it exists in /media/tkeller, but when i try to sudo umount <path to filesystem name in /media/tkeller>  it complains that it is "busy"  but nothing is using it
[15:16] <EriC^^> getfacl -Rpn /bin /whereever > permissions
[15:16] <EriC^^> jonah: then run sudo setfacl --restore=/where/you/saved/permissions
[15:17] <ducasse> curlyears: try umount -f
[15:17] <EriC^^> jonah: use sudo with both commands just in case
[15:17] <EriC^^> some dirs can't be read without sudo or something
[15:18] <curlyears> duscasse:  umount2: Device or resource busy
[15:18] <curlyears> umount: /media/tkeller/Ubuntu 14.04.4 LTS amd64: device is busy.
[15:18] <curlyears>         (In some cases useful info about processes that use
[15:18] <curlyears>          the device is found by lsof(8) or fuser(1))
[15:18] <curlyears> umount2: Device or resource busy
[15:18] <jonah> EriC^^: oh no but I don't think I've saved what any permissions should be?? I have the backups of those folders but how do I transfer the correct original permissions over?
[15:18] <jonah> EriC^^: they'd tar files so it may take me a while also to pull them off the backup NAS
[15:19] <EriC^^> jonah: untar them, then use the commands above
[15:19] <ducasse> curlyears: please pastebin multiline output. did you try something like 'sudo umount -f /dev/sr0'?
[15:19] <EriC^^> getfacl -Rpn /dir > permissions , and setfacl --restore=permissions
[15:20] <curlyears> *zaz* I have forgotten way too much.  Then again, how things are done in ubunyu has changed a fair lot in 3 years
[15:21] <ducasse> curlyears: not mounting and unmounting devices ;) i'm guessing you have gvfs installed, and it mounts cd's when you insert them, but you didn't unmount it before ejecting.
[15:21] <ducasse> curlyears: that's just a guess, though.
[15:21] <pw1337> assalamualaikum
[15:22] <lotuspsychje> !arabic | pw1337
[15:22] <chillpill_>  Translation failed
[15:22] <donofrio> is it me or are others have great success with powerpc (I've gotten four or more notebooks running 16.10 with sound) just need to get 3d acceluated working on various Radeon chipsets and I'm good to go.... ;)
[15:22] <lotuspsychje> donofrio: #ubuntu+1 for yakkety support please
[15:22] <donofrio> very happy with 16.10 powerpc (thank you to all)
[15:22] <donofrio> oih ok
[15:23] <pw1337> !arabic
[15:23] <chillpill_> Usage: !translate FromLanguage ToLanguage Word or Phrase to translate
[15:23] <pw1337> !English
[15:23] <pw1337> !indonesia
[15:24] <jonah> EriC^^: ok great thanks just pulling the backup over now. It's 1.7gb over wifi so will let you know when I get it over!
[15:24] <curlyears> ducssewhat is a gvfs, and is it in a default 14.04.4 install?
[15:25] <EriC^^> !translate english french i'm a bot please kick me
[15:25] <chillpill_>  Translation failed
[15:25] <k1l_> chillpill_: please turn off that script
[15:25] <jonah> EriC^^: ah I see so I can pull the backup onto my laptop, run the first command and it saves what the permissions should be? Then I don't need to restore the actual backup files - I just copy the saved permissions file to my raid and run the second command?!
[15:25] <EriC^^> somebody kick chillpill_ or tell him ^
[15:26] <EriC^^> jonah: yes, precisely
[15:28] <ducasse> curlyears: virtual file system layer, probably installed as part of most desktop environments.
[15:28] <jonah> EriC^^: ok that's magic if it works for me, then you are a god!! but if there are loads of files and sub folders of /lib or /bin for example, how do I save them all and not just the perms for that folder?
[15:29] <curlyears> OK, and how do I umount the gvfs?
[15:29] <curlyears> how do i even identify it?
[15:29] <dimitris> hello everyone, can any one help me adding facebook birthdays to my calendar app? i am using elementary os freya btw
[15:30] <curlyears>  away from kb..physical therapist here
[15:30] <bazhang> !elementary | dimitris
[15:30] <bazhang> chillpill_, bot or script
[15:30] <juser> curlyears, did you try umount /dev/sr0
[15:31] <juser> curlyears, what is the device you aretrying to use?  /dev/sr0 ?
[15:33] <EriC^^> jonah: it's recursive :)
[15:35] <jonah> EriC^^: wow that really is clever and extremely powerful. I love linux despite being in this mess!
[15:37] <OnceMe> why my laptop gets often wifi disconnects, actually it doesnt disconnect but rather shows there is no internet, but on my ethernet net works fine and on my phone via wifi aswell...?? its 14.04
[15:37] <OnceMe> I have realtek ethernet card
[15:38] <Android> Hello
[15:40] <Android> How to upgrade from 15.10 to 16.04 from within 15.10
[15:40] <k1l_> Android: run "update-manager"
[15:48] <Android> \help
[15:49] <lotuspsychje> Android: did you try the command k1l_ gave you?
[16:03] <karsgassd> hi
[16:03] <BrAsS_mOnKeY> I have wireshark in ubuntu on vm.  How can i monitor wifi traffic?
[16:04] <OerHeks> BrAsS_mOnKeY, you asked that before, check if your wifi adapter AND driver support that .. and in a VM, goodluck, i think not.
[16:05] <BrAsS_mOnKeY> i have 11.802sc.  it should
[16:05] <BrAsS_mOnKeY> ac*
[16:06] <BrAsS_mOnKeY> not sure how to check my adapter or driver though
[16:06] <bazhang> BrAsS_mOnKeY, what in a vm, wifi?
[16:06] <BrAsS_mOnKeY> yes bazhang
[16:06] <devil__> hola
[16:06] <bazhang> BrAsS_mOnKeY, theres no actual hw in a vm you realize
[16:07] <BrAsS_mOnKeY> bazhang, but can't i bridge or something or use the vm instead of the host?
[16:07] <BrAsS_mOnKeY> to manage the wifi
[16:07] <bazhang> no
[16:07] <ducasse> BrAsS_mOnKeY: we went over this, wireshark needs access to the actual driver.
[16:07] <BrAsS_mOnKeY> there is a bridge option in vm settings
[16:08] <BrAsS_mOnKeY> ducasse, how do i do that?
[16:08] <jonah> EriC^^: hi sorry to bother you, just i'm now at the point of restoring the perms back but just wondered, do I cd into the dir such as boot, then run the restore command selecting that backup perms file to restore, or do I restore the bootperms file in the dir above boot on the raid? just want to make sure I get it right first
[16:08] <OerHeks> That is the point, the VM should speak with the wifiadapter directly
[16:08] <bazhang> BrAsS_mOnKeY, it simply will NOT work
[16:08] <ducasse> BrAsS_mOnKeY: short answer: you don't
[16:08] <OerHeks> but wel told you that before
[16:08] <BrAsS_mOnKeY> lol
[16:09] <kittykitty> i broke my gpt and some ntfs data the other day on a windows disk and then deleted the gpt information. Anyone able to help me get stuff working again with testdisk? It's not super important but it really sucks ahah. I think i might have written over the first partition, it was only tiny. Maybe got the first couple of sections in the 2nd partition which had all of the data in. Before i was messing around with testdisk, it was shown as unalloca
[16:09] <kittykitty> ted
[16:10] <bazhang> kittykitty, what version of ubuntu is involved
[16:10] <kittykitty> bazhang, 14.04. It's really not an ubuntu specific problem though
[16:10] <bazhang> kittykitty, sounds like ##windows , honestly
[16:11] <metroins> Hi, can anybody tell me the command to find the largest folders on my hd?
[16:11] <kittykitty> I had a file with the partition information on the other day from testdisk but i deleted it aahah. I cant find the right file with extundelete though
[16:12] <kittykitty> bazhang, i just accidently wrote over stuff with dd is all
[16:12] <c^> metroins  sudo apt-get install gdmap
[16:12] <c^> kidirstat + k4dirstat work too
[16:12] <metroins> c^: thank you
[16:13] <kittykitty> bazhang, Im doing a drive image and just opened it with a hex editor and theres certainly still data there, i can see the ntfs stuff on it
[16:13] <ewa> Hi, I'm looking for someon who play LOL and know to fix my shop in game. Prefer language: polish, but I can try in english too
[16:13] <craptalk> is there any android programming editor in linux besides eclipse and android studio? seeking for the lighter one
[16:13] <mcphail> ewa: you're in the wrong channel. This is for Ubuntu support
[16:14] <kittykitty> anyone actually know how to use testdisk??
[16:14] <ewa> mcphail ok, can you tell me wher I have to go? Ofcourse I have ubuntu
[16:15] <mcphail> craptalk: you can go as light as you like. I did all my android programming in vim
[16:15] <ducasse> kittykitty: i would make an image of the entire disk before starting.
[16:15] <craptalk> mcphail: what?
[16:15] <craptalk> serious man?
[16:15] <kittykitty> ducasse, i should've done that before i started ahahah. I dont even think i have the backup gpt anymore either
[16:15] <mcphail> craptalk: of course.
[16:15] <craptalk> it has its own file structure
[16:15] <craptalk> no way man
[16:16] <craptalk> you really create everything from scratch?
[16:16] <ducasse> kittykitty: yeah, then I don't really know how best to proceed, do you have backups?
[16:16] <mcphail> craptalk: up to you. When I was hacking on android it was very quick to edit with vim and build with ant
[16:16] <mcphail> craptalk: the point being, you can use any tool you like
[16:16] <lotuspsychje> !alis | ewa
[16:17] <kittykitty> ducasse, It's windows. I'm more concerned about being able to boot without getting an installer and just installing it again. Who keeps precious stuff on windows anyway?? :P
[16:17] <EriC^^> jonah: hmm
[16:17] <fearnothing> hi folks, I need some help troubleshooting an issue, or at least pinpointing the cause
[16:17] <EriC^^> where is the backup mounted and the original?
[16:17] <ewa> ubottu: thank you!
[16:17] <fearnothing> I gave an old PC of mine to my dad that I'd installed ubuntu on
[16:18] <fearnothing> it keeps crashing with corrupted graphics
[16:18] <craptalk> mcphail: the thing comes in my mind is that when you created a project on android it has plenty of files in it, so that it can be running on the device later on, like manifest.xml and so on. and if you use vim, you gotta create all of that? are you sure?
[16:18] <EriC^^> jonah: -p uses absolute paths
[16:18] <ducasse> kittykitty: i don't think ubuntu is the best environment for fixing a broken ntfs anyway.
[16:18] <fearnothing> how can I confirm what component it is that has failed?
[16:18] <kittykitty> ducasse, better than the windows cmd from the recovery disk surely? Windows said they were there but are RAW, just like ubuntu
[16:18] <derbie> Hi! I've dropped virtualbox and installed ubuntu alongside windows. I sometimes take breaks from work to play some video games. Everytime i get back i have to spend a few minutes of clicking and typing to get my env back to where i was
[16:19] <derbie> Is there any way i can "save the session" so that when i boot next time, everything is as it were?
[16:19] <jaythelinuxguy> fearnothing have you run a memory test on it?
[16:19] <mcphail> craptalk: this is going very offtopic for this channel, but the Android SDK came with all project files for ant. I think they've move on to maven (or something) now. There is no need to use an IDE. If you don't want to use eclipse, use something else
[16:19] <craptalk> also for the point being, does it suppose to be automatically added the file structures and we can just edit the main class? i mean it is not java only programming where you can just use a single class?
[16:19] <fearnothing> can't remember but I think I have
[16:19] <fearnothing> there's a built in memtest in ubuntu isn't there?
[16:20] <craptalk> mcphail: maven?
[16:20] <jaythelinuxguy> fearnothing yes. Generally if you run that for ten minutes and it doesn't show errors, then memory isn't the issue
[16:20] <fearnothing> yeah it's just memtest86 bundled right?
[16:20] <jaythelinuxguy> fearnothing correct
[16:21] <fearnothing> I can't remember if he's done that, will have to check when he gets home
[16:21] <fearnothing> what about graphics card
[16:21] <mcphail> craptalk: not sure what android is using now. i heard they'd moved away from ant, so suppose they're porbbaly using maven or gradle. I haven't hacked on android since the 2.x days
[16:21] <jaythelinuxguy> fearnothing did it ever work when you first installed it?
[16:21] <fearnothing> jaythelinuxguy - it appears to run fine for a while, when I installed I didn't run it for that long, only a couple of hours
[16:22] <mcphail> craptalk: whatever langusage you develop for, it is worthwhile knowing the tools your IDE is using underneath. then you won't be locked in
[16:22] <craptalk> mcphail: well, gradle it is
[16:22] <jaythelinuxguy> fearnothing sounds like either RAM or the video card, I had a similar issue before
[16:22] <fearnothing> there could easily have been something wrong when I installed it that I just didn't run it long enough to discover
[16:22] <fearnothing> yeah I just want a way of confirming before replacing the graphics card
[16:22] <jaythelinuxguy> fearnothing nvidia, intel, ati?
[16:23] <fearnothing> AMD HD5850
[16:23] <jaythelinuxguy> Does it have intergrated graphics
[16:23] <fearnothing> nope
[16:23] <fearnothing> :(
[16:23] <jaythelinuxguy> The only way I know of to test the video card is to try another video card and see if the issue persists
[16:23] <EriC^^> jonah: you could cd to the dir before them, and do getfacl -Rn * > permissions and it should give the paths saved as dir/subdir, and run the setfacl accordingly
[16:23] <fearnothing> ah, so it's unlikely to leave clues in any log files?
[16:24] <jaythelinuxguy> fearnothing you may find something in the Xorg logs in /var/log
[16:24] <jaythelinuxguy> But you also may not, it depends on the nature of the issue
[16:24] <EriC^^> jonah: check permissions to see how it saved them after running getfacl and maybe just test it first on a couple of files
[16:25] <Mao> hi can someone please  explain me what that means ? after sudo aptitude upgrade i get upgrades and on the bottom "Current status: 0 (-9) upgradable" thx in advance
[16:25] <lotuspsychje> evening MonkeyDust
[16:25] <fearnothing> yeah I guess if it's an issue that's affecting the output after the final point the software touches it, the software isn't likely to have any clues
[16:25] <jaythelinuxguy> I would definitely check the Xorg logs and /var/log/syslog for clues
[16:25] <fearnothing> mm now I have to find a way of remoting into his box
[16:26] <jaythelinuxguy> fearnothing is his screen so distorted that you can't see anything at all?
[16:26] <fearnothing> jaythelinuxguy - when the issue occurs, yes.
[16:26] <fearnothing> but reboot and it'll be fine for a while
[16:26] <wyre> hi guys! I cannot remove proprietary driver of Nvidia
[16:26] <jaythelinuxguy> fearnothing try having him install teamviewer
[16:26] <wyre> when I try do that is installed previous version
[16:26] <wyre> how can I remove totally?
[16:27] <fearnothing> jaythelinuxguy - thanks, I'll do that
[16:27] <jaythelinuxguy> If the screen looks fine for you in teamviewer but distorted for him, that may be a clue that it's the card
[16:27] <lotuspsychje> wyre: tell us the whole story first, wich ubuntu version? wich driver version?
[16:27] <jaythelinuxguy> That's because transferring the screen over the internet shouldn't require the card
[16:27] <wyre> ubuntu 16.04
[16:27] <wyre> nvidia 340
[16:27] <fearnothing> good point
[16:27] <lotuspsychje> wyre: wich card chipset?
[16:27] <jaythelinuxguy> At least as far as I know
[16:27] <wyre> because nvidia 361 didn't work
[16:27] <wyre> nvidia 610M
[16:27] <wyre> gforce, sorry
[16:27] <fearnothing> and if the card is causing some kind of crash, that should show up in logs
[16:28] <lotuspsychje> wyre: optimus card?
[16:28] <MonkeyDust> hi lotuspsychje
[16:28] <wyre> lotuspsychje,
[16:28] <wyre> yes
[16:28] <wyre> I'm in recovery mode
[16:28] <lotuspsychje> wyre: you need nvidia-prime also
[16:28] <wyre> because my sistem doesn't load
[16:28] <jaythelinuxguy> fearnothing I would hope so, but there's no absolute rule as far as I know. I think I've seen a video card crash not show up in the logs but you should still always check the logs first
[16:28] <lotuspsychje> wyre: you can try sudo ubuntu-drivers autoinstall
[16:29] <fearnothing> if I find the card is broken, can you recommend a reliable card to replace it? just needs to be able to do 1080p output, and play web video, nothing fancy
[16:29] <lotuspsychje> wyre: sudo ubuntu-drivers list, to see which ones are available
[16:29] <wyre> lotuspsychje, but I wanna remove priprietary driver
[16:29] <lotuspsychje> wyre: you want to fallback on nouveau only?
[16:29] <fearnothing> I'm looking at various GeForce passive cooling options
[16:29] <Guest35957> hol
[16:30] <wyre> lotuspsychje, yes
[16:31] <lotuspsychje> wyre: try sudo apt purge nvidia*
[16:31] <mcphail> fearnothing: GT210 can do 1080p output and accelarated video. Very very very cheap. Often passive cooling
[16:31] <Mao> hi can someone please  explain me what that means ? after sudo aptitude upgrade i get upgrades and on the bottom "Current status: 0 (-9) upgradable" thx in advance
[16:32] <fearnothing> mcphail, yes those are the ones I'm looking at right now; how are the drivers for reliability?
[16:32] <floam412> hey guys, so I just posted this on /r/linux4noobs https://www.reddit.com/r/linux4noobs/comments/4ik0eh/trackpad_on_my_asus_laptop_wont_work_after/ ... could anybody possibly help me out from here? I've tried looking up my problems on askubuntu and nothing is seeming to show up?
[16:32] <mcphail> fearnothing: proprietary drivers are rock solid
[16:32] <fearnothing> sweet :) thank you
[16:32] <lotuspsychje> Mao: perhaps some no longer needed packages need to be uninstalled?
[16:32] <mcphail> fearnothing: but don't expect gaming performance
[16:33] <Mao> ok thank you
[16:33] <fearnothing> he's unlikely to play anything more demanding than a pinball game :P
[16:33] <wyre> lotuspsychje, with ubuntu-drivers autoinstall is asking me for a password to create a new user nvidia-persistance
[16:33] <n1md4> hi, ubuntu.
[16:33] <wyre> what password should I give it?
[16:35] <floam412> can anyone help me out with my trackpad problems I listed above? Any help would be greatly appreciated.
[16:35] <n1md4> i have a laptop with dual dp sockets, and want to use them to connect to two hdmi monitors.  connecting 1 is simple; plug in, it works, but if i connect the 2nd video comes up, but it starts doing strange things - display settings box hangs, mirroring where it thinks it isn't.  Disconnecting the 2nd cable brings the displays back to life.
[16:35] <n1md4> any ideas why this happens?  expected behavour?  should i not be able to run 2 displays like this?
[16:36] <n1md4> any ideas will be useful
[16:37] <auronandace> n1md4: are you specifying a resolution on each monitor?
[16:39] <n1md4> auronandace: not really getting a chance, it hangs (i think) whilst detecting the displays; as the settings are called.
[16:39] <yogesh> what is the best things to time pass on internet?
[16:39] <yogesh> are*
[16:39] <OtterCoder> yogesh: Learn a new language, programming or otherwise.
[16:39] <MonkeyDust> yogesh  watch the narnian cat
[16:40] <EriC^^> listen to justin bieber
[16:40] <auronandace> n1md4: my guess would be it is trying to default to the highest resolution possible and your graphics card can't cope with the laptop display and 2 hdmi monitors
[16:40] <n1md4> it's a gtx980m should be good
[16:41] <yogesh> ottercoder: i want to learn big data like hadoop or something but i dnt know fromwhere to lear?
[16:41] <yogesh> learn*
[16:41] <n1md4> auronandace: unless i'm wrong, and the card can't support that.
[16:41] <yogesh> monkeyDust: wts that?
[16:41] <OtterCoder> yogesh: https://hadoop.apache.org/docs/r2.7.2/hadoop-project-dist/hadoop-common/SingleCluster.html
[16:42] <yogesh> whats that?
[16:42] <Pici> !alis | yogesh
[16:43] <auronandace> n1md4: you can try setting a low resolution on your 1st hdmi display then plug in the second to see if it works
[16:45] <OtterCoder> So, I've got a bit of an issue with dual monitors. I'm running Ubuntu 16.04 on a Thinkpad P50 Laptop with Nvidia Quadro. When I plug into an LG 24M47H via HDMI, I get a weird extended desktop, instead of two separate screens, and windows fly offscreen.
[16:47] <lotuspsychje> wyre: not sure how it works yet.. http://docs.nvidia.com/deploy/driver-persistence/index.html#persistence-mode
[16:47] <floam412> https://www.reddit.com/r/linux4noobs/comments/4ik0eh/trackpad_on_my_asus_laptop_wont_work_after/ ... can anyone help me?  Haven't been able to find out answers on askUbuntu
[16:47] <auronandace> OtterCoder: display settings should allow you to select what you want the additional monitor to do (mirror, extend etc)
[16:47] <lotuspsychje> wyre: there's also a manpage for nvidia-persistenced
[16:48] <OtterCoder> auronandace: It doesn't have an option for splitting the desktop, which is the expected behavior.
[16:49] <n1md4> auronandace: setting the res low, then connecting that 2nd ext monitor really broke things
[16:50] <OtterCoder> Sorry, lost the window while messing with monitor settings.
[16:51] <lotuspsychje> floam412: can you check if this bug is related for you? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1520519
[16:51] <OtterCoder> auronandace: It displays all sorts of weird behavior. For example, when I try to snap a window to full screen on the second monitor, it jumps to the built in screen.
[16:52] <OtterCoder> auronandace: That is, on extend, not mirror.
[16:54] <asad_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/16320820/
[16:54] <asad_> i'm unable to install these packages.
[16:55] <OerHeks> asad how? ppa?
[16:55] <OerHeks> asad and what ubuntu version etc?
[16:55] <asad_> OerHeks, ubuntu 16.04
[16:55] <jair> hello hello
[16:55] <jair> I am having a very small but very annoying issue with the latest version of vlc 2.2.2 in my Ubuntu Xenial 16.04 LTS
[16:56] <jair> I only see this version available for the 16.04 LTS
[16:56] <jair> 2.2.2
[16:56] <jair> basically no matter what setting I change on the preferences the VLC will not open the movie in full screen...
[16:56] <OerHeks> asad_,  nope, not available, what are you trying to do?
[16:57] <lotuspsychje> jair: other players behave the same?
[16:57] <auronandace> jair: press f once it is playing
[16:57] <jair> Hello OerHeks thanks for the help
[16:57] <jair> the other player "videos" or totem shows the video full screen no problem
[16:57] <asad_> OerHeks, actually it's just this lib32bz2-1.0
[16:57] <jair> auronandace: tried many things but let me play again the video here
[16:58] <asad_> OerHeks, I need to install it for android studio.
[16:58] <lotuspsychje> jair: can you open vlc from terminal and see what kind of errors arise when you play?
[16:58] <Michal_amateur> Hello, can somebody help me? I have game, I have backgroud image size 150x150 and I want multiple this picture to size for example 2000x2000.
[16:58] <jair> auronandace: nope, the player become full screen but blue around the movie
[16:58] <jair> however the movie still small
[16:59] <lotuspsychje> jair: what kind of video file are you trying to play?
[16:59] <jair> lotuspsychje: let me try
[16:59] <jair> lotuspsychje: I have two types, one is a matroska and the other one mp4
[17:00] <OerHeks> asad_, try libbz2-1.0:i386
[17:00] <dublag> bonjour
[17:00] <lotuspsychje> !fr | dublag
[17:00] <floam412> how do I enable my trackpad to be turned on?  Just installed Ubuntu 16.04 on my laptop and it won't work when I use it on the hard drive, but when I use a live USB it works perfectly fine..
[17:00] <jair> I have another machine here running linux mint 2.1.6 and works nicely
[17:00] <floam412> Is there something I need to do on the terminal?
[17:00] <jair> lotuspsychje: let me get the logs hold on please to run the vlc using the command line
[17:01] <asad_> OerHeks, is that the same package?
[17:01] <OerHeks> asad, see http://askubuntu.com/questions/637113/unable-to-locate-package-lib32bz2-1-0
[17:01] <OerHeks> yes, seems so\
[17:01] <floam412> I've tried looking at software & updates and there doesn't seem to be anything that looks like I need to upgrade anything in terms of my trackpad
[17:01] <dublag> Pb avec affichage: gros pixels rectangulaires blanc&gris apparaissent aléatoirement obligeant à rebouter - Carte msi gtx660
[17:01] <OerHeks> as android is just 32 bit, find the 32 bit packages
[17:02] <Michal_amateur> Hello, can somebody help me? I have game, I have backgroud image size 150x150 and I want multiple this picture to size for example 2000x2000.
[17:02] <dublag> J'ai même parfois un blocage: tout est figé à l'écran sauf la souris mais impossible d'activer quoique ce soit.
[17:02] <lotuspsychje> !fr | dublag
[17:02] <Pici> !fr | dublag
[17:03] <jair> lotuspsychje: here is the output: http://paste.debian.net/683092/
[17:03] <jair> lotuspsychje: that is trying to play the movie full screen .mkv
[17:03] <jair> I will try an .mp4
[17:03] <lotuspsychje> jair: are your graphics drivers installed correctly?
[17:05] <jair> lotuspsychje: similar error: http://paste.debian.net/683094/
[17:05] <goddard> my chromium all of a sudden has a changed shortcut
[17:05] <jair> lotuspsychje: hmm I will think so, this is a fresh ubuntu install xenial 16.04 LTS 64bit
[17:05] <lotuspsychje> jair: did you install another vlc version perhaps?
[17:05] <jair> lotuspsychje: nope
[17:06] <jair> lotuspsychje: but I will double check about the graphics
[17:06] <goddard> and when I type shift+w it looks like this W~
[17:06] <jair> lotuspsychje: perhaps there is a version of kernel for my laptop
[17:06] <goddard> what is going on?
[17:06] <jair> I am using the thinkpad X1 carbon 2016 latest
[17:06] <derjur> jair: i just bought one too
[17:07] <derjur> great little laptop
[17:07] <derjur> you running 16.04?
[17:07] <lotuspsychje> jair: check sudo lshw -C video behind driver=
[17:09] <jair> lotuspsychje: just to compare, this is the output for the other vlc in linux mint working perfectly and resizing full screen... http://paste.debian.net/683095/ just to compare
[17:09] <jair> derjur: yep
[17:09] <lotuspsychje> jair: we cant compare, other hardware other system
[17:09] <jair> derjur: :)
[17:09] <jair> lotuspsychje: alright
[17:10] <goddard> my chromium all of a sudden has a changed shortcut
[17:10] <jair> lotuspsychje: checking from the command you sent me
[17:10] <goddard> and when I type shift+w it looks like this W~
[17:10] <Amm0n> jair, you're propably missing the vdpau drivers for your gpu
[17:10] <goddard> what is going on?
[17:10] <jair> Amm0n: hmm how can I confirm?
[17:13] <Amm0n> jair, should be something like nvidia-vdpau or mesa-vdpau, i'm not that familar with apt anymore, i'd search in synaptics
[17:13] <jair> lotuspsychje: I believe you are right, and I need to install the drivers for my laptop
[17:13] <jair> lotuspsychje: here is the ouput: http://paste.debian.net/683096/
[17:14] <jair> Amm0n: but I am pretty sure that the X1 carbon does not come with nvidia
[17:14] <Amm0n> ic skylake.. dunno about that
[17:15] <Amm0n> try mesa-vdpau then
[17:15] <panjim> anyone has rooted any phone?
[17:15] <Amm0n> or use mpv :P
[17:15] <jair> I think this is the graphics card: Intel HD graphics 5500
[17:15] <ducasse> !alis | panjim
[17:17] <akik> panjim: go to xda developers
[17:17] <panjim> ok ducasse
[17:17] <panjim> i am looking for consolidated list of model wise features available after rooting akik
[17:18] <bekks> panjim: before root: no root access, after rooting: root access. Thats basically what rooting is about.
[17:19] <goddard> when I type shift+w it looks like this W~
[17:19] <goddard> what is going on?
[17:19] <goddard> W~W~W~W~W~W~W~W~W~W~
[17:20] <jair> lotuspsychje: I believe I need to install the drivers for the intel card? but checking in intel website I don't see intel 5500 drivers for linux
[17:20] <MonkeyDust> goddard  someone else had a similar issue, it was ibus input related
[17:20] <panjim> ok bekks i heard usb otg can be enabled in some phones after root
[17:20] <Amm0n> jair, try sudo apt-get install i965-va-driver vainfo
[17:20] <bekks> panjim: What is "usb otg"?
[17:21] <panjim> hardware feature?
[17:21] <panjim> bekks:
[17:21] <ducasse> panjim: ok, what has that got to do with ubuntu?
[17:21] <jair> Amm0n: let me check
[17:21] <OerHeks> goddard, try sudo dpkg-reconfigure keyboard-configuration or clean your keyboard
[17:21] <bekks> panjim: I never heard of "usb otg".
[17:21] <Amm0n> jair, if this gives you no errors check it with "vdpauinfo"
[17:22] <jair> Amm0n: checking
[17:22] <goddard> OerHeks: oh that is asking me what type of keybord I have
[17:22] <jair> by the way this is the kernel I have installed in my laptop: Linux x1 4.4.0-22-generic #39-Ubuntu SMP Thu May 5 16:53:32 UTC 2016 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[17:23] <panjim> can you google abt it? bekks
[17:23] <jair> Amm0n: I wonder if I should install a different kernel
[17:23] <panjim> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USB_On-The-Go bekks
[17:24] <Amm0n> jair, err sry i pasted you something wrong :/
[17:24] <Amm0n> sudo apt-get install libvdpau-va-gl1 i965-va-driver vdpauinfo
[17:24] <Amm0n> this one is for vdpau
[17:24] <Amm0n> you don't need vainfo
[17:26] <jair> Amm0n: alright no problem I installed already restarting the laptop
[17:28] <hoangddt> #help
[17:29] <FredTheNoob> Hi guys, do you know how to fix an "ALSA lib pcm.c:7963" error?
[17:30] <rektide_> "show bluetooth status in menu bar" <-- is there any way to get a "menu bar" if i don't run Unity? (i run awesome.) i'm used to running stalonetray & getting icons, but that doesn't seem to work here- menu bar seems to be different.
[17:30] <FredTheNoob> It happens on my tvcard, with sound lag
[17:30] <tgm4883> FredTheNoob: what TV card
[17:31] <FredTheNoob> let me check
[17:31] <jair> Amm0n: rebooting
[17:32] <jair> Amm0n: I tried using the vlc player and playing the two files .mkv and the .mp4 and both are acting the same way still
[17:32] <FredTheNoob> saa7134 IR (Kworld Plus TV Analog
[17:32] <ducasse> rektide_: i3 has a status line where such things pop up, there might be something similar for awesome. or you could run something like the Xfce panel?
[17:33] <Amm0n> jair, and vdpauinfo?
[17:34] <hoangddt> hey, I can not install software with .deb extensions with Software of Ubuntu 16.04
[17:34] <bekks> hoangddt: Why not?
[17:34] <jair> Amm0n: insteresting now vlc is not even opening
[17:34] <Term1nal> Upgraded from 14.10, to 15.04, to 15.10, to 16.04 on my old vostro laptop without a hitch. First time the upgrade process hasn't left me with a non-booting system.
[17:35] <goddard> OerHeks: now when I type shift+w it looks like this "W~"
[17:35] <Term1nal> Good work folks.
[17:35] <jair> checking the vdpauinfo
[17:35] <goddard> OerHeks: it was working just fine
[17:36] <OerHeks> goddard, if resetting keyboard did not do the trick, no clue
[17:36] <hoangddt> Whenever I double click a deb file, it'd be opened in software center. then I click "install" button, it'd change to "installing" for a second but then turn back to "install" and nothing happens. It also says "This software comes from a 3rd party and may contain non-free components" at the bottom.
[17:36] <hoangddt> Ubuntu 16.04
[17:36] <bekks> hoangddt: Use dpkg -i your.deb instead.
[17:36] <squinty> hoangddt,  you can use gdebi to install .deb packages
[17:36] <jair> Amm0n: here http://paste.debian.net/683101
[17:38] <goddard> OerHeks: it types fine in KDE apps
[17:38] <goddard> OerHeks: just not the konsole
[17:38] <Amm0n> jair, doesn't look so well
[17:38] <squinty> hoangddt,  gdebi will check that all dependencies are satisfied before installing the deb
[17:38] <Term1nal> hoangddt: yes, that part is broken at the moment, install gdebi, it shall do what you wish.
[17:38] <Amm0n> jair, if you try to open vlc in terminalß
[17:39] <jair> Amm0n: hmm I am wondering if I should install one of those intel based kernel or xserver kernels instead of the generic
[17:39] <hoangddt> Thanks you. I install gdebi and I can install app .deb extension
[17:39] <jair> Amm0n: yes?
[17:39] <jair> Amm0n: what about it?
[17:39] <Amm0n> jair, any errormsg?
[17:39] <goddard> OerHeks: it was using "XFree 4" i changed it to Linux Console and not it works
[17:40] <goddard> OerHeks: still strange key bindings in Firefox
[17:40] <goddard> Typing shift+w opens the search input dialog
[17:40] <jair> Amm0n: let me paste what I get
[17:40] <goddard> as if I typed ctrl+f
[17:42] <jair> Amm0n: http://paste.debian.net/683103
[17:42] <Amm0n> jair, could be worth a try with another kernel, but i'd rather try it with mpv if you can play the files there
[17:42] <jair> Amm0n: I am getting that error
[17:43] <jair> Amm0n: and I can't see the video anymore
[17:43] <jair> Amm0n: before I could see the movie but I could not play it in full screen
[17:44] <Amm0n> jair, yes vdpau is still not working :/
[17:45] <n4pst3r> i have a problem with my mdk3 can someone help me
[17:46] <jair> Amm0n: I am wondering if I should install one of those kernels optimized for intel cards
[17:46] <n4pst3r> jair can you help me
[17:47] <jair> n4pst3r: what is your issue?
[17:48] <jair> n4pst3r: are you trying to crack wireless access points? >[
[17:48] <Amm0n> jair, as i said i could be worth a try, but try to use the mesa-vdpau drivers first: sudo apt-get install mesa-vdpau-drivers this should also remove the non working vdpau driver
[17:48] <n4pst3r> jair:no im just want to install iy
[17:49] <n4pst3r> install it
[17:49] <jair> Amm0n: OK
[17:49] <jair> OK
[17:49] <jair> n4pst3r: alright... is the package .deb or source?
[17:50] <n4pst3r> source
[17:50] <n4pst3r> jair:source
[17:51] <jair> n4pst3r: OK I am dealing with a graphical issue but after that I will be able to help
[17:51] <n4pst3r> thanks and now what i have to do
[17:51] <hoangddt> Im just install ubuntu 16.04. i type in terminal: $ pip. It said: "The program 'pip' is currently not installed. You can install it by typing: sudo apt install python-pip". Question: ubuntu 16.04 use `apt` instead of `apt-get`?
[17:52] <n4pst3r> jair:thanks and now what i have to do
[17:52] <MonkeyDust> hoangddt  yes
[17:52] <Sebastien> oh
[17:52] <Sebastien> thats weird
[17:53] <hoangddt> MonkeyDust: Is it Ok if I type `apt-get`?
[17:54] <MonkeyDust> hoangddt  yes
[17:56] <panjim> whcih server software do yuou use from phone?
[17:57] <bekks> panjim: None?
[17:57] <dax> panjim: Don't crosspost between #ubuntu and #debian. Please use the channel that actually corresponds to the distro you're having trouble with.
[17:58] <MonkeyDust> panjim  what's the output of   cat /etc/issue
[17:58] <BrAsS_mOnKeY> if I make a dpkg-reconfigure how can I go and see the changes and delete them if wanted?
[17:58] <BrAsS_mOnKeY> or see or delete groupadd
[17:59] <panjim> ok dax
[17:59] <panjim> what is that MonkeyDust
[17:59] <MonkeyDust> panjim  in a terminal, type   cat /etc/issue    what does it say
[18:00] <panjim> i dont have terminal sorry MonkeyDust
[18:01] <bekks> panjim: Why not?
[18:01] <MonkeyDust> panjim  what distro are you using?
[18:01] <panjim> android and windows MonkeyDust
[18:02] <cer> hi
[18:02] <k1l_> panjim: then please use ##windows or #android for questions. this channel is only for technical ubuntu support.
[18:02] <cer> how do i mount a local hdd with read/write right for any user in fstab?
[18:03] <panjim> ok k1l_
[18:03] <bekks> cer: you mount it as usual, and set permissions on the filesystem accordingly.
[18:03] <cer> how to set permissions on the filesystem?
[18:04] <cer> i have ufs
[18:05] <MonkeyDust> cer  you mean aufs?
[18:05] <ducasse> cer: the disk needs to have permissions set that will allow those users read/write access.
[18:06] <cer> the row in fstab is: /dev/ada1p1          /mnt/hdd         ufs         rw        0    0
[18:06] <bekks> cer: ufs is implemented read only, only.
[18:06] <cer> but only root is permited to write
[18:06] <auronandace> cer: ufs is typically used in the bsds, each one does it slightly differently
[18:07] <cer> yes im on freebsd
[18:07] <cer> sorry
[18:07] <bekks> cer: so ask the freebsd support please.
[18:07] <cer> ok, but i cant join the freebsd channel
[18:07] <auronandace> !register | cer
[18:07] <bekks> cer: Which isnt an ubuntu issue :)
[18:09] <cer> :#)
[18:14] <kalteis> eine zeile in der tabelle fixieren
[18:14] <cer> was?
[18:14] <bekks> !de | kalteis
[18:15] <BrAsS_mOnKeY> if I make a dpkg-reconfigure how can I go and see the changes and delete them if wanted?
[18:15] <bekks> BrAsS_mOnKeY: you need to rerun dpkg-configure, there is no preview.
[18:16] <BrAsS_mOnKeY> like if i ran dpkg-reconfigure wireshark-common, id use -uncommon ? :)
[18:18] <BenderRodriguez> how do I save my routing table
[18:18] <BenderRodriguez> so it is resttored at startup
[18:19] <cer>  /join #freenode
[18:20] <jair> how can I get ibus to start always after reboot my machine?
[18:24] <ipatrol> ok, now,
[18:24] <BrAsS_mOnKeY> and also if i use sudo chmod +x /usr/bin/dumpcap is there a way to undo that?
[18:25] <bekks> BrAsS_mOnKeY: Which permissions did that binary had before?
[18:26] <BrAsS_mOnKeY>  have no idea
[18:26] <BrAsS_mOnKeY> it was for wireshark after install
[18:26] <bekks> BrAsS_mOnKeY: Then why do you mess around with your binaries? :) Binaries are executable by default, so the +x was already set.
[18:27] <bekks> BrAsS_mOnKeY: Can you pastebin "cat /etc/issue" please?
[18:27] <BrAsS_mOnKeY> it was recommended from a website to install wirehark
[18:27] <BrAsS_mOnKeY> bekks, not sure where it is.
[18:27] <bekks> BrAsS_mOnKeY: Close that website immediately, since it obviously is telling you nonsense.
[18:27] <bekks> BrAsS_mOnKeY: Open a terminal and type: cat /etc/issue
[18:28] <BrAsS_mOnKeY> no such file or directory
[18:28] <bekks> BrAsS_mOnKeY: Then you are not using Ubuntu.
[18:28] <BrAsS_mOnKeY> 16.04
[18:28] <BrAsS_mOnKeY> LTS
[18:29] <rhnvrm> I'm having trouble installing docker after I upgraded my kernel to 4.4.8 to fix the suspend problem
[18:29] <rhnvrm> https://paste.gnome.org/pqe0rmxoq
[18:29] <bekks> BrAsS_mOnKeY: then you would have that file.
[18:29] <MonkeyDust> BrAsS_mOnKeY  type   lsb_release -d
[18:30] <rhnvrm> Unable to locate package linux-image-extra-4.4.8-040408-generic
[18:32] <BrAsS_mOnKeY> no command
[18:32] <bekks> BrAsS_mOnKeY: and the output of "uname -a"?
[18:32] <MonkeyDust> BrAsS_mOnKeY  no /etc/issue, no lsb_release, then you're not using ubuntu
[18:32] <mcphail> rhnvrm: these are the perils of using mainline kernels. Unless you pick one which has an -extra- package you're going to run into problems with more esoteric kernel modules
[18:32] <BrAsS_mOnKeY> i verified the download
[18:33] <BrAsS_mOnKeY> key signautures
[18:33] <BrAsS_mOnKeY> signatures
[18:34] <rhnvrm> mcphail: do you have any idea which kernel I should choose more newer than 4.4.0 that would have this -extra package?
[18:35] <mcphail> rhnvrm: I don't know. I was looking through a few last night and couldn't find one. The mainline kernel page suggests they do exist, though
[18:36] <cesso> hello
[18:36] <phillyj> Something went wrong with my desktop. I am missing the close buttons, resolution seems off. I cant see my other 3 workspaces
[18:37] <cesso> ???
[18:37] <BrAsS_mOnKeY> i'm using ubuntu on virtualbox
[18:37] <cesso> i using kali linux
[18:37] <phillyj> i dont know if it is a nvidia issue
[18:37] <cesso> in dual boot
[18:37] <phillyj> not sure what the issue is or how to look for a solution
[18:38] <cesso> ok
[18:38] <phillyj> my terminal used to have transparency, but that is missing
[18:38] <cesso> speak italia
[18:38] <k1l_> !it | cesso
[18:38] <mcphail> !kali | cesso
[18:39] <cesso> ok thans
[18:39] <rhnvrm> mcphail: it is available for wily http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/
[18:39] <cesso> thanks
[18:39] <phillyj> and my windows load on top of each other so i can't see the one previously opened
[18:39] <rhnvrm> do wily packages work with xenial?
[18:39] <phillyj> anyone know what is wrong with my desktop?
[18:39] <k1l_> rhnvrm: its not adviced to mix releases
[18:41] <OtterCoder> Hey, so I have a dual monitor working via compiz config, but when I move my mouse to the secondary monitor, the desktop on the primary monitor sort of slides over to mirror the secondary monitor. How do I disable this?
[18:42] <mcphail> rhnvrm: I wouldn't use the defauly wily kernel because it will share a namespace with the xenial kernel, potentially causing conflicts. Any mainline kernel build should be fine, though, whether t is marked as wily or xenial
[18:43] <rhnvrm> so right, as i see it my only option is to use the 4.4.0 kernel for using docker right?
[18:43] <mcphail> rhnvrm: I don't know, I'm afraid. I don't use docker. But, if it needs modules from -extra-, that may be your only hope
[18:44] <rhnvrm> mcphail: i'm not very good at this, would anyone know if 4.6.0 has -extra package in it?
[18:44] <mcphail> rhnvrm: 4.6 isn't release yet. We're still at rc stage. And the rc's don't have -extra- packages. I looked last night
[18:45] <BrAsS_mOnKeY> MonkeyDust, i'm using ubuntu downloaded from their site
[18:45] <BrAsS_mOnKeY> 16.04 LTS
[18:45] <MonkeyDust> whoever was struggling with docker, there are some 970 people on #docker
[18:45] <BrAsS_mOnKeY> i must be typing the wrong command
[18:45] <rhnvrm> I asked on docker, no one responded :)
[18:46] <BrAsS_mOnKeY> or typing in wrong place.
[18:46] <mcphail> MonkeyDust: to be fair, it is an Ubuntu kernel packaging issue
[18:46] <phillyj> hello, something is wrong with my desktop; i don't really know what the issue is or how to fix
[18:46] <OtterCoder> No ideas on the desktop viewport scrolling with the mouse?
[18:46] <Mr-Asker> hello, has xchat been deleted from the official repo in 16.04?
[18:46] <de-facto> use hexchat :)
[18:46] <DJones> Mr-Asker: Yes it has
[18:47] <phillyj> the resolution seems wrong. Windows are loading on top of each other and I cant see the close/min/max buttons
[18:47] <k1l_> Mr-Asker: yes. use hexchat now
[18:47] <Mr-Asker> i can only find xchat-gnome  and i don't like it
[18:47] <DJones> !xchat | Mr-Asker
[18:47] <BrAsS_mOnKeY> when i type cat etc/issue I get cat: issue: no such file or directory
[18:47] <mcphail> rhnvrm: you'll see that https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/MainlineBuilds?action=show&redirect=KernelMainlineBuilds suggests there are -extra- packages built for some kernels. I just can't find one
[18:47] <Pici> BrAsS_mOnKeY: its /etc/issue  the first slash is important
[18:47] <Mr-Asker> ok, i'll try hexchat
[18:47] <Mr-Asker> i'll come back
[18:48] <de-facto> !info hexchat | Mr-Asker this is almost like xchat but actively maintained they even have #hexchat in freenode
[18:48] <Amm0n> rhnvrm, you could use lxc or systemd-nspawn (if it's implemented in the 16.04 systemd version?)
[18:48] <phillyj> can someone point me in right direction on how to fix my desktop?
[18:48] <BrAsS_mOnKeY> MonkeyDust, i get Unbuntu 16.04 LTS \n \l
[18:49] <floam412> can anyone please help me figure out how to get my mouse to work on my installed ubuntu 16.04 software?
[18:49] <Brunost> what is the best way to set up a machine so that I'll use one interface for anything to/from 192.168.1.0/24 and one for anything else?
[18:49] <rhnvrm> mcphail: yes, that is surprising
[18:49] <floam412> I posted what has been going on on /r/linux4noobs here:  https://www.reddit.com/r/linux4noobs/comments/4ik0eh/trackpad_on_my_asus_laptop_wont_work_after/
[18:49] <de-facto> floam412 what does not work with your mouse? do you use nvidia-current?
[18:50] <Ntemis> can anyone help me mount win10 ntfs hdd?
[18:50] <floam412> the trackpad nor the mouse I hook up via USB
[18:50] <Ntemis> done everything
[18:50] <floam412> de-facto^
[18:50] <Ntemis> chkdisk
[18:50] <Ntemis> remove quick boot
[18:50] <rhnvrm> Amm0n: yes it is systemd. i'm not sure how lxc will work
[18:50] <Ntemis> nothing works
[18:50] <eu> oooohhh this is great again
[18:50] <ducasse> Brunost: just set up one interface on 192.168etc, and the other as a default route
[18:50] <rhnvrm> Amm0n: i need to use docker-compose
[18:51] <k1l_> Ntemis: remove the fast reboot setting on windows. then you can easily mount it on other OS.
[18:51] <Ntemis> i did
[18:51] <francois45> Hello I'm French, Who can explain me how use XChat???
[18:51] <floam412> de-facto, it's using intel
[18:51] <Ntemis> still i cant
[18:51] <Ntemis> The NTFS partition is in an unsafe state. Please resume and shutdown
[18:51] <k1l_> Ntemis: what is the error when mounting?
[18:51] <k1l_> Ntemis: are you sure you did that setting for this partition?
[18:51] <Ntemis> yeap
[18:52] <Ntemis> i read about that fix over internet
[18:52] <Mr_Asker> done, it is quite the same as xchat :)
[18:52] <floam412> de-facto I'm on a live USB boot right now so I can move around on my laptop to figure out stuff, but I'm still running into nothing.
[18:52] <BrAsS_mOnKeY> uname -a i get Linux (namme) 4.4.0.22-generic #39-Ubuntu SMP (date) x86_64(4) GNU/Linux
[18:52] <Ntemis> k1l_: http://paste.ubuntu.com/16323200/
[18:53] <francois45> Are you hacker,
[18:53] <k1l_> Ntemis: if you did that and rebooted windows that will work. i use that on my dualboot, too. make sure to set that to all the windows partitions you want to boot
[18:53] <Mr_Asker> by the way, I've installed 16.04 and trying to make everything work but i'm having loads of problems
[18:53] <de-facto> floam412 hmm no idea then, maybe you can look in cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log and ~/.xsession-errors ?
[18:53] <Ntemis> is a dual boot ssd
[18:54] <de-facto> floam412 that is on your mounted hdd from the problem boot of course then
[18:54] <k1l_> Ntemis: you could use "ntfsfix" but there is a risk of dataloss. is i recommend doing the seting on windows properly
[18:54] <MonkeyDust> BrAsS_mOnKeY  type    sudo apt install pastebinit && sudo apt update|pastebinit ... then paste rthe url here
[18:54] <floam412> de-facto any askUbuntu threads you can point me too that you are talking about? I'm still fairly new
[18:54] <Mr_Asker> i installed a program called stellarium that i had in 14.04 in my netbook. it worked well but it doesn't want to start under 16.04
[18:54] <django_> is this dangerous: curl -sL https://deb.nodesource.com/setup_4.x | sudo -E bash -
[18:54] <Ntemis> k1l_: i did try the ntfsfix too
[18:54] <Ntemis> nothing works
[18:54] <mcphail> django_: of course
[18:54] <Guesf_87875> http://101img.com/img-5730d6c1e8d4b.html
[18:54] <django_> mcphail: why
[18:55] <BrAsS_mOnKeY> MonkeyDust, i still couldn't get the lsb release -d to work
[18:55] <BrAsS_mOnKeY> but cat /etc/issue and uname -a work
[18:55] <mcphail> django_: you are running a script from the interweb as root. Good luck with that
[18:55] <floam412> de-facto yeah it's definitely a problem with something on my hard drive it seems like, because the live USB works well.
[18:56] <bekks> mcphail: thats the moment you hear that "Brace! Brace!" from the captain :P
[18:56] <MonkeyDust> Mr_Asker  fwiw, stellarium works here, on 16.04, been using it since 12.04
[18:56] <mcphail> bekks: :)
[18:56] <MonkeyDust> BrAsS_mOnKeY  type      sudo apt install pastebinit && sudo apt update|pastebinit ... then paste rthe url here
[18:56] <Mr_Asker> stellarium tells that thre is no opengl in my system. i must update my hardware or use mesa. Could anubody help me?
[18:56] <Ntemis> k1l_: found a possible solution
[18:56] <BrAsS_mOnKeY> MonkeyDust, ok, i got the lsb to work it says Description: Ubuntu 16.04 LTS now i'm going to do the new command.
[18:57] <Ntemis> powercfg /h off
[18:57] <de-facto> floam412 then compare /var/log/Xorg.0.log from hdd and liveusb
[18:57] <rfleming> Greetings!
[18:57] <rfleming> How do I find out when a package will be in the main repos?
[18:57] <de-facto> floam412 maybe you find out which driver is missing on your hdd for your touchpad then
[18:57] <rfleming> I'm referring to this comment: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/packagekit/+bug/1569292/comments/16 which says a bug has been fixed, but this version isn't in the main repo yet
[18:57] <phillyj> can someone help me fix my messed up desktop? I think its a video driver problem but not sure how to proceed
[18:58] <Ntemis> let me check this out :)
[18:58] <k1l_> django_: its heavily dangerous. you basically run "load commands from a website you dont know and give them root permissions on your system". which could do everything root is allowed to. like  installing other software. making other user accounts. installing bots or other malicious things.
[18:58] <floam412> de-facto ... I think it would be a little easier to PM, I sent you a message
[18:58] <ducasse> rfleming: it's probably in updates-proposed
[18:58] <floam412> de-facto , again I appreciate the help so far
[18:59] <rfleming> ducasse, That makes sense.  How long do packages languish there before going to main?
[18:59] <teward> rfleming: until they're verified and released to -updates
[19:00] <teward> rfleming: with regard to the bug you state, one hasn't been uploaded to -proposed, which would then need to undergo testing before it's released
[19:01] <BrAsS_mOnKeY> MonkeyDust, http://us.archve.ubuntu.com/ubuntu
[19:01] <teward> rfleming: I assume you're also taking for Xenial, in which case, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/StableReleaseUpdates is important
[19:02] <phillyj> ok guys, i'm getting somewhere now. I got this crash message "nvidiasettings crashed with SIGSEGV in XCloseDisplay()"
[19:02] <phillyj> what does that mean? and how to fix?
[19:02] <BrAsS_mOnKeY> MonkeyDust, http://paste.ubuntu.com/16323351/
[19:02] <Jordan_U> django_: It's recommended that you stick to applications available in the default repositories, as their code has been audited (to a certain extent at least) and is trusted by the Ubuntu developers.
[19:03] <milkchoco> こんにちは　HELLO
[19:03] <rfleming> teward, I understand the process, just not sure how long this usually takes.  I can't join my new LTS servers to my domain because of a bug, and I don't want to use a non-standard patch.
[19:03] <milkchoco> とりあえずログインテストしています
[19:03] <teward> rfleming: there is no "timeline"
[19:04] <Jordan_U> !jp | milkchoco
[19:04] <milkchoco> HI !>Jordan
[19:04] <teward> rfleming: first, the person it's assigned to has to upload a fix to Xenial Proposed - it may have to first be 'accepted' into -proposed
[19:05] <teward> rfleming: once accepted, it has to build.  once built, it lands in -proposed
[19:05] <Mattx> Hello! How do I disable the "global menu" and show window's menus on the window themselves?
[19:05] <teward> rfleming: once in -proposed, it needs testing, and the bug will be updated when it's in proposed.  Assuming that it gets uploaded.  There's no timeline we can give since we aren't the one working on it.
[19:05] <Mattx> I want it to work like in any other distro not running Unity
[19:06] <milkchoco> excuse me, I trying connecting test.  I have to sleep soon.>all
[19:06] <k1l_> Mattx: unity-settings-manager got a setting for that
[19:06] <rfleming> Ahh well, I guess I'll have to use the ppa for the proposed patch until it gets released to updates
[19:06] <k1l_> Mattx: wait, its named "unity-tweak-tool"
[19:06] <ioria> systemsettings -> Appearance -> Behavior
[19:06] <rfleming> teward, thanks.
[19:07] <milkchoco> but, I want to use english and talk about ubuntu .  Because , I weak use English..
[19:07] <Mattx> Hmm, I already checked there. I don't think that's what I'm looking for ioria
[19:08] <ioria> Mattx, Show the menus for a window ?
[19:08] <milkchoco> see you next opportunity
[19:08] <Mattx> ioria, I want the menu to be disapled just below the title bar
[19:09] <ioria> Mattx, oh...
[19:09] <Bashing-om> milkchoco: " talk about ubuntu " is #ubuntu-offtopic .
[19:09] <porcocoluichevie> hello... is there a way to upload somehjting with XMODEM using ubuntu?
[19:09] <porcocoluichevie> screen doesnt work
[19:10] <Pici> porcocoluichevie: you could try using minicom
[19:10] <django_> how can i install nodejs then
[19:10] <django_> Jordan_U:
[19:10] <Mattx> gosh, I can't install unity-tweak-tool, I've a problem with dictionaries-common -.-
[19:11] <Mattx> which is blocking apt-get or something
[19:11] <Mattx> https://gist.githubusercontent.com/9466cf4f9d8192ed75df92b0543a144d/raw/6e9710779c28172a97bc8c815ed5a79c6653894d/gistfile1.txt
[19:11] <mcphail> !info lrzsz | porcocoluichevie
[19:12] <milkchoco> THANKS! >Bashing-om
[19:12] <Mattx> any idea?
[19:13] <Bashing-om> phillyj: Let's take a look at the hardware, and a possule driver . Post to a pastebin the outputs of terminal commands: ' lspci -k | grep -EA2 'VGA|3D' ; sudo lshw -C display ; dpkg -l | grep -i nvidia ' . See where we go from here .
[19:14] <phillyj> ok
[19:14] <BrAsS_mOnKeY> I typed sudo app instal irssi (is this the recommended way to instal irssi?)
[19:14] <BrAsS_mOnKeY> install*
[19:14] <Bashing-om> podssule/possible **
[19:15] <Jordan_U> django_: "sudo apt install nodejs" though I'm not familiar with nodejs myself. If you really need a newer version than is avilable in the default repositories then you can manually add the ppa that https://deb.nodesource.com/setup_4.x adds or simply download, read, and understand the script at https://deb.nodesource.com/setup_4.x before running it.
[19:15] <porcocoluichevie> thank you mcphail. Unfortunately I get Device /dev/ttyUSB0 is locked so maybe I need to reboot
[19:16] <mcphail> porcocoluichevie: maybe logout/in to make sure any groups have been applied
[19:17] <tiggero> Hello!
[19:17] <n1md4> auronandace: here's a weird thing, Ubuntu's display settings hangs and crashes, as i described earlier, but arandr worked beautifully, first time!  what's that about?
[19:18] <tiggero> Is there anyone who synchronized KDE's Kontact (Adress data) with owncloud?
[19:18] <Mattx> Does anybody have a similar problem with dictionaries-common, ascepp, etc?
[19:19] <MonkeyDust> BrAsS_mOnKeY  what was your initial question again?
[19:19] <Mattx> check this output: http://bit.ly/1TAkZ4F
[19:19] <Mattx> err, this one: https://gist.githubusercontent.com/9466cf4f9d8192ed75df92b0543a144d/raw/6e9710779c28172a97bc8c815ed5a79c6653894d/gistfile1.txt
[19:19] <ioria> Mattx, i got 400: Invalid request
[19:20] <BrAsS_mOnKeY> and also if i use sudo chmod +x /usr/bin/dumpcap is there a way to undo that?
[19:20] <Mattx> I can't install any package with apt-get/aptitude, they ask me to run install -f
[19:20] <bekks> BrAsS_mOnKeY: It is a bimary and had +x before.
[19:20] <Mattx> and then install -f fails like this
[19:20] <bekks> *binary
[19:20] <Pici> Mattx: we can't see the links you're posting.
[19:20] <Mattx> no? it's gist. let me publish it again
[19:20] <BrAsS_mOnKeY> i just tried the last command you gave me MonkeyDust and now it looks different
[19:21] <BrAsS_mOnKeY> http://paste.ubuntu.com/16323641/
[19:21] <Mattx> https://gist.github.com/13b8598caa1166f4496cffeb32437edd
[19:21] <BrAsS_mOnKeY> maybe its different because i typed sudo apt install irssi
[19:21] <Mattx> Pici, ioria ^
[19:21] <ioria> Mattx, ok
[19:22] <Mattx> I don't even use any dictionary
[19:22] <BrAsS_mOnKeY> maybe i shoulded have typed that
[19:22] <BrAsS_mOnKeY> shouldn't*
[19:23] <Pici> Mattx: let me take a look
[19:23] <ioria> Mattx, apt-cache policy dictionaries-common
[19:23] <Mattx> this is aptitude install -f: https://gist.github.com/99836a211d865cbc874698e72a745d36
[19:23] <Mattx> shows more info ^
[19:24] <Pici> Mattx: what release of Ubuntu is this?
[19:24] <phillyj> Bashing-om: http://paste.ubuntu.com/16323698/; http://paste.ubuntu.com/16323698/; http://paste.ubuntu.com/16323708/
[19:24] <Mattx> ioria, https://gist.github.com/7278de1564165e89ee36221883bfddb4
[19:24] <ioria> Mattx, vivid ?
[19:24] <BrAsS_mOnKeY> if I want to undo sudo apt install irssi, how would I delete/undo that?
[19:24] <Pici> BrAsS_mOnKeY: apt-get remove irssi
[19:24] <ioria> yep
[19:24] <BrAsS_mOnKeY> i think i should have used apt-get
[19:24] <Mattx> Pici, not sure, it has some time now. Probably 10 months?
[19:24] <MonkeyDust> Mattx  you too, what's the output of    cat /etc/issue
[19:24] <BrAsS_mOnKeY> instead of apt install
[19:24] <ioria> Mattx, you are EOL
[19:25] <Bashing-om> phillyj: look'n .
[19:25] <Mattx> Ubuntu 15.04 \n \l
[19:25] <ioria> yep
[19:25] <bekks> BrAsS_mOnKeY: In 16.04, apt replaces apt-get
[19:25] <bekks> BrAsS_mOnKeY: And what is the actual issue now?
[19:25] <ioria> Mattx, maybe upgrade
[19:25] <Mattx> I'm afraid everything will break apart if I upgrade
[19:25] <MonkeyDust> Mattx  first upgrade, then ask again
[19:26] <ioria> Mattx, you can't use that version anymore
[19:26] <MonkeyDust> Mattx  make a backup
[19:26] <Jordan_U> Mattx: Right now you have a broken system because it's insecure.
[19:26] <BrAsS_mOnKeY> well.. i feel like i don't have much conrtol of what i'm outputting on here.
[19:26] <Mattx> I never had luck with full-upgrades
[19:26] <BrAsS_mOnKeY> like if i add something i want to know how to remove it, etc
[19:26] <ioria> Mattx, ^ MonkeyDust
[19:26] <BrAsS_mOnKeY> and i don't know where these are outputting
[19:27] <BrAsS_mOnKeY> i guess i'm saying i don't want to mess something up.
[19:27] <BrAsS_mOnKeY> with these commands what where or what they are creating.
[19:27] <porcocoluichevie> mcphail: Unfortunately I rteceive many Retry 0: NAK on sector  and eventually at some point it reaches a treshold and aborts the copy :(
[19:27] <bekks> BrAsS_mOnKeY: Then you should not follow weird 3rd party websites as you already did, for wireshark.
[19:28]  * Mattx is sudoing do-release-upgrade
[19:28] <Pici> Mattx: full-upgrades/dist-upgrades should be done regularly. They are the only way to pull in kernel updates.
[19:28] <BrAsS_mOnKeY> i thought wireshark was ok?
[19:29] <Mattx> don't you guys have problems everytime you upgrade?
[19:29] <Mattx> problems as in you have to reinstall/recompile something
[19:29] <MonkeyDust> BrAsS_mOnKeY  wireshark is ok, but the ppa may not be
[19:29] <Pici> Mattx: A dist-upgrade is not a release upgrade.
[19:29] <Mattx> what upgrade should I do? release or dist?
[19:29] <k1l_> Mattx: apt full-upgrade doesnt mean you upgrade to 15.10
[19:29] <Bashing-om> phillyj: Mvidia recommends the 361 version driver: http://www.nvidia.com/download/driverResults.aspx/101423/en-us / What release are you running, so we plan on where to get this driver .
[19:29] <ioria> Mattx, if you did something weird on you system .... yes :þ
[19:29] <BrAsS_mOnKeY> I guess i should remove the ppa then
[19:29] <MonkeyDust> !info wireshark | BrAsS_mOnKeY it's in the repos
[19:29] <mcphail> porcocoluichevie: sorry - I haven't used xmodem for years. Can't remember how to debug
[19:29] <BrAsS_mOnKeY> not sure what ppa is.  I was just following instructions
[19:30] <MonkeyDust> BrAsS_mOnKeY  yes, remove the ppa
[19:30] <k1l_> Mattx: but 15.04 is not updated anyway. and is lacking a lot of important security updates.
[19:30] <bekks> BrAsS_mOnKeY: and remove all software installed from that PPA, before.
[19:30] <Mattx> Pici, should I dist or release upgrade?
[19:30] <BrAsS_mOnKeY> not sure how
[19:31] <phillyj> Bashing-om: nvidia x-server info says 340.96
[19:31] <ioria> Mattx, first backup,  the do-release-upgrade
[19:31] <Jordan_U> !upgrade | Mattx
[19:31] <k1l_> Mattx: to update to 15.10 use "update-manager " or "do-release-upgrade" on cli
[19:31] <dannymichel> Is there maybe an rsync cache or something like that? A way to speed up rsync for a directory you frequently do rsync to?
[19:31] <Pici> Mattx: what ioria said.  But in the future you should be doing dist-upgrades regularly.
[19:31] <Mattx> ok, got it
[19:32] <Bashing-om> phillyj: Yeah .. we do want the correct driver . What release is this .. 16.04 has that driver in the repo ??
[19:32] <ioria> Mattx, when  your system is stable, you can do-release-upgrade to 16.04, that is the latest
[19:32] <phillyj> 12.04.5 lts, Bashing-om
[19:33] <n1md4> hi.  i have a pci-e ssd, and want to sync my system to it to boot from, but i have an encrypted home drive i'd like to replicate too.  what's the easiest way to achive this?
[19:33] <Mattx> btw, how "regularly"?
[19:34] <phillyj> Bashing-om: it was working fine till today so maybe an update broke the driver
[19:34] <Mattx> once a week? month?
[19:34] <Bashing-om> phillyj: Ouch, that goes back a ways ... we will require our trustd PPA to get the 361 version driver . Are you comfortable with this as a solution ?
[19:34] <phillyj> yea
[19:34] <BrAsS_mOnKeY> anyway to check what software might have been install from ppa?
[19:34] <BrAsS_mOnKeY> and how to remove ppa?
[19:34] <tiggero> Can someone give me a hint what to do with a KDE Kontact error message similar to "Entry was not deleted from the server, Ressource could not be deleted" when trying to sync with Owncloud?
[19:34] <Mattx> I don't want to have much to upgrade in a single dist-upgrade so it doesn't break apart :P
[19:35] <Ben64> Mattx: that isn't how it works
[19:35] <tiggero> Trying to sync the contacts between Kontact and Owncloud
[19:35] <ioria> Mattx,  update  - upgrade - dist-upgrade (or apt update  and full-upgrade) ?  i do it every boot, no issue
[19:36] <Bashing-om> phillyj: Now nothing says we can not clean things up - from multiple install attempts .. and install the 340 version driver, See what results .
[19:36] <tiggero> Mattx, I do the same like Ioria, works fine.
[19:36] <Mattx> cool
[19:36] <phillyj> ok
[19:36] <MonkeyDust> BrAsS_mOnKeY  in system settings > updates > sources ... delete the ppa and reload
[19:37] <Bashing-om> phillyj: Which do you want .. install from the repo .. or install from PPA ?
[19:38] <phillyj> Bashing-om: whichever is better method
[19:38] <Mattx> I guess it's wise not to have a script that automatically full-upgrade on boot, and you check the list of changes. right?
[19:38] <BrAsS_mOnKeY> ok thanks
[19:38] <BrAsS_mOnKeY> done.
[19:38] <bekks> Mattx: Yes, thats wise, not to do that without reviewing it before.
[19:38] <BrAsS_mOnKeY> was my system compromised
[19:38] <BrAsS_mOnKeY> ?
[19:38] <ioria> Mattx,  /var/log/apt/history.log
[19:39] <paddyez> has anyone got this too? http://paste.ubuntu.com/16323889/
[19:39] <Bashing-om> phillyj: I do advocate to follow Nvidis's recomendation of the 361 driver. In your case to install that driver requires the use of a PPA . That is your call and only IF you are comfortable doing that .
[19:39] <paddyez> the keys are all fine
[19:39] <paddyez> I checked with apt-key
[19:40] <Mattx> ioria, you do it automatically on boot and check the history if you have any problem?
[19:40] <Mattx> that's what you meant?
[19:40] <ioria> Mattx, no, manually
[19:40] <de-facto> where does liveusb session mount a hdd when you click on it in nautilus? pathname?
[19:40] <bekks> paddyez: and gnupg is installed?
[19:40] <phillyj> Bashing-om: that's fine; I did that before, so a bit comfortable wit it
[19:40] <Mattx> oh, ok. fine. I'll take your advice. thanks!
[19:40] <paddyez> bekks: yes
[19:40] <MonkeyDust> de-facto  in a terminal, type   mount
[19:40] <ioria> Mattx, but with a bit of patience you can reverse a troublesome upgrade
[19:40] <phillyj> will have to go thru cmd line; windows are all messed up
[19:40] <paddyez> bekks: gpg --list-keys works
[19:41] <de-facto> MonkeyDust yeah but what is the path if you click on it on nautilus? /media/liveusb/<uuid>/ ?
[19:41] <BrAsS_mOnKeY> there were 4 PPAs.  I deleted them
[19:41] <Bashing-om> phillyj: K. lets clean up .. 1st - does this file exist : ' ls -al /etc/X11/xorg.conf ' ?
[19:41] <MonkeyDust> de-facto  the same as 'mount' shows
[19:42] <phillyj> Bashing-om: yes
[19:42] <de-facto> MonkeyDust i dont know what mount shows, can you tell me what the standard path for mounting in liveusb from nautilus is?
[19:42] <bekks> BrAsS_mOnKeY: And did you uninstall all software from those PPA before?
[19:43] <MonkeyDust> de-facto  type   mount   and then you know what it shows
[19:43] <de-facto> i cant its not my system
[19:44] <BrAsS_mOnKeY> i didn't uninstall, just deleted the 4 PPAs
[19:44] <BrAsS_mOnKeY> maybe i should reinstall system
[19:44] <paddyez> do you need "apt-key list" output?
[19:44] <BrAsS_mOnKeY> i didn't know how to uninstall
[19:44] <Bashing-om> phillyj: K .. we get rid of it .. and the new driver install will nake up a config file suitable for th new driver . Do : ' sudo apt-get purge nvidia* ; sudo rm /etc/X11/xorg.conf ' . Next we install the PPA source and get the 361 driver.
[19:44] <Ben64> BrAsS_mOnKeY: you were told how to uninstall...
[19:45] <BrAsS_mOnKeY> Ben64, if system settings -> updates was unistall, then yes
[19:45] <Ben64> no...
[19:45] <BrAsS_mOnKeY> updates and then removed the ppa
[19:45] <BrAsS_mOnKeY> in other software
[19:45] <bekks> BrAsS_mOnKeY: thats removing the PPA, not removing the software from the PPA.
[19:46] <BrAsS_mOnKeY> I was told how to do that
[19:46] <BrAsS_mOnKeY> maybe i missed it
[19:46] <Ben64> May 09 2016 12:24:45 <Pici>	BrAsS_mOnKeY: apt-get remove irssi
[19:46] <phillyj> Bashing-om: ok, that is done
[19:46] <BrAsS_mOnKeY> Ben64, yeah I didnt know that PPA name
[19:46] <BrAsS_mOnKeY> that was for a different program: Irssi
[19:46] <Ben64> what? thats how to remove a package
[19:46] <MonkeyDust> de-facto  ok, can't give assistance if you can't follow instructions
[19:47] <bekks> BrAsS_mOnKeY: the PPA name is irrelevant for removing software.
[19:47] <Ben64> you replace irssi with any package you want
[19:47] <BrAsS_mOnKeY> ok
[19:47] <BrAsS_mOnKeY> but
[19:47] <BrAsS_mOnKeY> so i should remove wireshark first
[19:48] <BrAsS_mOnKeY> thats the only package i'm aware of
[19:48] <bekks> BrAsS_mOnKeY: remove all software you installed from PPA.
[19:48] <BrAsS_mOnKeY> unless the ppa has a certain name.
[19:48] <de-facto> MonkeyDust i cant follow instructions because its not my computer, im helping someone, so i guess you dont know the answer then
[19:48] <paddyez> bekks: "gnupg is already the newest version (1.4.20-1ubuntu3)."
[19:48] <bekks> BrAsS_mOnKeY: you had four PPA, and installed software from them.
[19:48] <BrAsS_mOnKeY> not sure what the software is
[19:48] <Ben64> de-facto: just have them type "mount" then
[19:48] <Bashing-om> phillyj: ' sudo add-apt-repository ppa:graphics-drivers/ppa ; sudo apt-get update ; sudo apt-get dist-upgrade ; sudo apt-get install nvidia-361 ; sudo reboot ' . Let's see what the result is on the other side.
[19:48] <BrAsS_mOnKeY> how to look it up
[19:49] <bekks> BrAsS_mOnKeY: Now it is too late, since you removed the PPA.
[19:49] <bekks> BrAsS_mOnKeY: Which PPA did you use?
[19:49] <BrAsS_mOnKeY> they were something like wireshark/stable
[19:49] <BrAsS_mOnKeY> or something
[19:49] <bekks> BrAsS_mOnKeY: "or something" is far too vague.
[19:49] <mzperx> hi
[19:50] <stumar> Could I get some help please. I am running Ubuntu 14.4 & I am trying to get my Wacom tablet installed. It says that there is no tablet connected, but I do have it plugged in. What can I do?
[19:50] <BrAsS_mOnKeY> is there a way to see what software I have installed and determine from there?
[19:50] <BrAsS_mOnKeY> it should be four.
[19:51] <BrAsS_mOnKeY> and i think they basically had same or very close name
[19:51] <Ben64> BrAsS_mOnKeY: you had four ppas all for wireshark?
[19:51] <BrAsS_mOnKeY> ye
[19:51] <BrAsS_mOnKeY> ye
[19:51] <BrAsS_mOnKeY> yes*
[19:51] <stumar>  Could I get some help please. I am running Ubuntu 14.4 & I am trying to get my Wacom tablet installed. It says that there is no tablet connected, but I do have it plugged in. What can I do?
[19:51] <BrAsS_mOnKeY> but i only typed one line
[19:51] <Ben64> well that's not proper
[19:51] <Ben64> !patience | stumar
[19:54] <BrAsS_mOnKeY> ok, i found out the code.
[19:54] <BrAsS_mOnKeY> i typed sudo add-apt-repository ppa:wireshark-dev/stable
[19:54] <BrAsS_mOnKeY> installed the apt
[19:55] <BrAsS_mOnKeY> updated first then installed
[19:57] <phillyj> Bashing-om: it rebooted. In Additional Drivers, nvidia_361 is activated by not currently in use
[19:58] <dubutulemude> Hi, I'm trying to encrypt my home folder on 16.04. After installing ecryptfs-utils, I try to `adduser` but I get "Cannot get ecryptfs version, ecryptfs kernel module not loaded?". But loading the module doesn't works
[19:58] <dubutulemude> dubutulemude: "Module ecryptfs not found in directory /lib/modules/3.14.32"
[19:58] <bekks> dubutulemude: you should reboot to a current kernel.
[19:59] <dubutulemude> bekks: I rebooted the server
[19:59] <BrAsS_mOnKeY> bekks, is there a way to check software?
[19:59] <dubutulemude> bekks: but I'm gonna try to select another kernel
[19:59] <bekks> BrAsS_mOnKeY: check software for what?
[19:59] <BrAsS_mOnKeY> ppa
[20:00] <bekks> BrAsS_mOnKeY: You have been answered that question multiple times.
[20:00] <ioria> dubutulemude, you need to create a new user , install ecryptfs-utils cryptsetup and then sudo ecryptfs-migrate-home -u user
[20:00] <ioria> dubutulemude, and login right after
[20:00] <BrAsS_mOnKeY> bekks, i mean to delete the software.  I removed it but you said I should have deleted it.
[20:00] <BrAsS_mOnKeY> so is there anyway to delete it?
[20:01] <bekks> BrAsS_mOnKeY: I answered that question multiple times. Please read the backlog of our conversation.
[20:01] <BrAsS_mOnKeY> you asked me what it aid
[20:01] <BrAsS_mOnKeY> said*
[20:02] <bekks> BrAsS_mOnKeY: I did not. I asked you which PPA you had, and your answer was "or something".
[20:02] <BrAsS_mOnKeY> so now that I have a good guess of what it said, i go to terminal and remove wireshark/stable ?
[20:03] <bekks> BrAsS_mOnKeY: And you stated that you already removed all PPA, so you cannot remove a removed PPA.
[20:03] <BrAsS_mOnKeY> bekks, you wanted me to delete software before removed though.
[20:03] <BrAsS_mOnKeY> you said it was too late.
[20:03] <bekks> BrAsS_mOnKeY: Yes. "can I find out which software came from a PPA?" "No."
[20:04] <bekks> BrAsS_mOnKeY: You have been given that answer multiple times - what is unclear at that point?
[20:04] <BrAsS_mOnKeY> but there is still software you are saying, right?
[20:04] <phillyj> Bashing-om: why does it say that 361 is activated but not currently in use?
[20:04] <beaver> hello, i have a problem with apt-cache, i use : apt-cache show -o"Dir::State::Lists=/ok/data/aptdir/xenial" -o"Dir::etc::sourcelist=/ok/data/aptdir/xenial.list" -o"Dir::etc::SourceParts=/ok/data/aptdir/xenial.list.d" -o"Dir::State::status=/ok/data/aptdir/xenial.status" -o"Dir::Cache=/ok/data/aptdir/cache" lib64z1 -> i returns me back -> Impossible to find lib64z1, here is grep -R "lib64z1"
[20:04] <beaver> /ok/data/aptdir/xenial :
[20:05] <Bashing-om> phillyj: Well ! .. can you access your desktop ? and we can look at what is going on in the X layer : pastenin /var/log/Xorg.0.log .
[20:05] <bekks> BrAsS_mOnKeY: Yes, since you did not remove the software from the PPA before removing the PPA. Everything else can be read in the backlog.
[20:05] <BrAsS_mOnKeY> if i delete os, will i still be vunerable?
[20:06] <BrAsS_mOnKeY> vulnerable*
[20:06] <MonkeyDust> BrAsS_mOnKeY  type   grep -i ppa /etc/apt/sources.list
[20:06] <Pici> beaver: what architecture are you on?
[20:07] <BrAsS_mOnKeY> MonkeyDust, ok. I did that
[20:07] <phillyj> there is no Xorg log in /var, Bashing-om
[20:07] <MonkeyDust> BrAsS_mOnKeY  does it show a ppa line?
[20:07] <beaver> http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/16324149/
[20:07] <ipatrol> um, I can't share the directory, because when I try to open its FUSE directory, Nautilus re-processes it as a network share, and doesn't apply the nautilus-share extension
[20:07] <BrAsS_mOnKeY> the terminal seems froze.
[20:07] <kz_> which version is good for netbook ?
[20:08] <BrAsS_mOnKeY> no, it shows nothing.
[20:08] <Bashing-om> phillyj: That is unreal ! check again .
[20:08] <beaver> why apt-cache command me not return information
[20:08] <MonkeyDust> BrAsS_mOnKeY  what happened, to bring your ubuntu in this terrible state?
[20:08] <BrAsS_mOnKeY> MonkeyDust, it just appeared frozen, it wasn't.
[20:09] <ipatrol> kz_: do people even still use netbooks?
[20:09] <bekks> MonkeyDust: He added four PPA for istalling irssi and wireshark, followed weird howtos, etc.
[20:09] <MonkeyDust> BrAsS_mOnKeY  not just this... what was your initial question, that brings you here
[20:09] <kz_> ipatrol in my country yes :D
[20:09] <BrAsS_mOnKeY> how to remove chmod
[20:09] <ipatrol> bekks: that sounds completely unnecessary
[20:10] <bekks> ipatrol: Ack.
[20:10] <ipatrol> kz_: interesting, because netbooks are pretty much dead in the West
[20:10] <BrAsS_mOnKeY> i added a line and wanted to know how to remove it
[20:10] <BrAsS_mOnKeY> i think my ubuntu was ok
[20:10] <bekks> BrAsS_mOnKeY: you added four lines, and multiple software, and folowed weird guides.
[20:10] <phillyj> oh, sry, needed sudo. 1 minute Bashing-om
[20:10] <beaver> Pici: amd64
[20:10] <nairwolf> hi, I just have run "sudo apt update" and "apt list --upgradable", I'm running on Xubuntu 16.04 and I see some strange update 'brltty' package. I wonder why I have this package. Is it possible to know if it was installed by default, or if it's a dependacy of another package ?
[20:10] <bekks> *followed
[20:11] <BrAsS_mOnKeY> i think the ppas were the same.. i just tried the same line several times
[20:11] <MonkeyDust> nairwolf  brl means braille, for visually impaired people
[20:11] <kz_> ipatrol ise very useful to do some things
[20:11] <BrAsS_mOnKeY> i was a noob trying to install (and still am noob)
[20:11] <beaver> Pici: you know why the command does not return me any information ?
[20:11] <BrAsS_mOnKeY> i dont think irsii added any ppa though.  just when i installed wireshark with ppa line
[20:11] <nairwolf> MonkeyDust: I didn't know this package and I've found what it was by running 'apt show'. I wonder why I have this package (My vision is almost perfect)
[20:11] <Bashing-om> phillyj: The use of 'sudo' just to see the /var/log/Xorg.0.log should not be required . Ouch ??
[20:12] <ipatrol> kz_: what happened in the West is the price and size of laptops came down, eating the upper end of the market, and tablets and smartphones ate the lower end of the market
[20:12] <MonkeyDust> nairwolf  you can easily delete it, i did
[20:12] <Pici> beaver: not sure, thinking
[20:12] <nairwolf> But it's installed by default ?
[20:12] <MonkeyDust> nairwolf  and i wear glasses ;)
[20:12] <ipatrol> kz_: long story short, most Linux netbook versions re-integrated with their mainline desktop or laptop editions
[20:13] <kz_> ipatrol something like this...
[20:13] <Bashing-om> phillyj: ' cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log | pastebinit ' Works for me .
[20:13] <beaver> Pici: what i can try ?
[20:13] <kz_> i think lubunut is nice on netbook
[20:13] <phillyj> Bashing-om: sry, i typed wrong things; http://paste.ubuntu.com/16324186/
[20:13] <BrAsS_mOnKeY> http://www.ubuntumaniac.com/2016/04/how-to-install-wireshark-203-on-ubuntu.html  <-- if you scroll to the bottom , it shows you the three lines to install wireshark.
[20:13] <Bashing-om> phillyj: reading.
[20:13] <BrAsS_mOnKeY> I must have done the ppa line several times for it to have those extra ppas
[20:13] <bekks> BrAsS_mOnKeY: Forget that crap guide.
[20:14] <BrAsS_mOnKeY> ok
[20:14] <bekks> BrAsS_mOnKeY: All you need is: sudo apt install wireshark
[20:14] <BrAsS_mOnKeY> ok
[20:14] <MonkeyDust> BrAsS_mOnKeY  sudo apt install wireshark    would have been faster, easier, cleaner, safer
[20:14] <BrAsS_mOnKeY> should i reinstall os?
[20:14] <ipatrol> kz_: lubuntu is probably the best option, since it's more minimalist
[20:14] <BrAsS_mOnKeY> i'm just running a vm ubuntu
[20:14] <Bashing-om> !info linux-image-generic precise
[20:15] <ipatrol> BrAsS_mOnKeY: at this point, you've probably mucked things up to the point of needing to do that
[20:15] <ipatrol> BrAsS_mOnKeY: in the future, if you need ANY program at all, PLEASE start by searching for it in the Ubuntu Software Center
[20:15] <MonkeyDust> BrAsS_mOnKeY  but it's a good thing it's 'only' a vm
[20:16] <nairwolf> MonkeyDust: You didn't answered. It is installed by default ? It is possible to verify that, and how ?
[20:16] <beaver> !info lib64z1 xenial
[20:16] <Bbsdfs> ,
[20:16] <floam412> Hey guys, I'm having trouble running my synaptics "ETPS/2 Elantech Touchpad" driver and have different outcomes when comparing my liveusb drivers vs my hdd drivers... can anyone provide any help?
[20:16] <MonkeyDust> nairwolf  yes, it's installed by default, to make ubuntu easily accessible to all, also to visually imparired people
[20:17] <floam412> liveusb: http://termbin.com/pltr VS. hdd:  http://pastebin.com/fYa1qDu5
[20:17] <Pici> beaver: I'm not sure why you're setting those variables manually, but I have to wonder what some of the other default options are preventing you from seeing that package on your system.
[20:18] <floam412> And I don't really know if it has to do that I'm running through an intel hdd
[20:18] <nairwolf> Thank you MonkeyDust ;)
[20:19] <BrAsS_mOnKeY> I wanted to download it at the ubuntu software center, but I didnt see it.
[20:20] <bekks> BrAsS_mOnKeY: there is a search field in the software center.
[20:20] <BrAsS_mOnKeY> MonkeyDust, since its a vm, it is safer?  but now that there was PPAs installed, and i reinstall os, is there still a risk, like info out, etc.
[20:20] <BrAsS_mOnKeY> bekks, i used it.
[20:20] <nacc> floam412: it seems like some xorg drivers aren't installed in your hdd? (e.g., xserver-xorg-input-synaptics) ?
[20:21] <BrAsS_mOnKeY> I don't understand PPA so I don't know the risk of it
[20:21] <ygorl> after i edit /etc/network/interfaces , what do i need to do to apply the settings? I'm not sure service networking restarting is really doing it
[20:21] <bekks> BrAsS_mOnKeY: What do you mean by "info out?"
[20:21] <BrAsS_mOnKeY> like ip address to be explouted
[20:21] <floam412> nacc: how would I go about installing those?
[20:21] <BrAsS_mOnKeY> severs uploaed, malware, etc
[20:21] <bekks> BrAsS_mOnKeY: A VM willnot safe you from that.
[20:21] <nacc> floam412: `apt-get install xserver-xorg-input-synaptics` ?
[20:21] <bekks> BrAsS_mOnKeY: All those things may happen in your VM, too.
[20:22] <de-facto> nacc he is on liveusb right now
[20:22] <MonkeyDust> BrAsS_mOnKeY  the repos are controlled and screened by 'official ubuntu people', so they are safe ... ppa's are from external, private persons and not screened
[20:22] <floam412> nacc: so if I do that would I need to install any intel stuff that would make my computer compatible?
[20:22] <MonkeyDust> BrAsS_mOnKeY  more or less, that's the idea
[20:23] <nacc> de-facto: true; i meant run that in the hdd environment, good point.
[20:23] <nacc> floam412: i don't know what you mean by "intel stuff" or "compatible"
[20:23] <BrAsS_mOnKeY> sudo add-apt-repository ppa:wireshark-dev/stable  <-- at least the ppa looks somewhat creditable.
[20:24] <BrAsS_mOnKeY> so hopefully it  is ok.
[20:24] <Bashing-om> phillyj: Some things in the look I do not understand .. but you are yp and running on Nvidia 361 " 5.598] (II) NVIDIA(0): [DRI2] Setup complete" . What now shows ' sudo lshw -C display ' .
[20:24] <BrAsS_mOnKeY> only thing i
[20:24] <MonkeyDust> BrAsS_mOnKeY  yes, but there's no need, as wireshark is in the repos too
[20:25] <floam412> nacc: It says that it is already the newest version (1.8.2-1ubuntu3)
[20:25] <de-facto> nacc can he just chroot onto his hdd mount point and use apt on that?
[20:25] <BrAsS_mOnKeY> ok
[20:25] <nacc> de-facto: I don't think chroot will dtrt with verifying that it fixes anything, but not sure
[20:25] <BrAsS_mOnKeY> repos meaning its not available at the download center but able to install?
[20:25] <phillyj> Bashing-om: http://paste.ubuntu.com/16324280/
[20:25] <bekks> BrAsS_mOnKeY: Repos mean: official sorce for installing software.
[20:26] <nacc> floam412: hrm, for some reason, then your X server isn't seeing the same devices, which is odd; can you pastebin `dmesg` output from the live usb and the installed OS output?
[20:26] <BrAsS_mOnKeY> ok
[20:26] <bekks> BrAsS_mOnKeY: PPA are unofficial.
[20:26] <BrAsS_mOnKeY> ok
[20:26] <MonkeyDust> BrAsS_mOnKeY  no, the software center is a means to un/install a program
[20:26] <BrAsS_mOnKeY> ok
[20:26] <floam412> nacc: I'm going to PM you... a lot easier
[20:27] <BrAsS_mOnKeY> so if i reinstall os, everything should be ok, as far as PPA vulnerablities are concerned?
[20:27] <askpcguy> Im using ubuntu mate on a rasp pi and trying to script a loop to curl an html website and regex remove two lines then DIFF the results.  Every attempt I've made has not worked as I've seen by just doing the commands on the command line
[20:27] <BrAsS_mOnKeY> i'm just worried like a back door or something has been created
[20:27] <BrAsS_mOnKeY> like onto my host or something. LOL :)
[20:27] <MonkeyDust> BrAsS_mOnKeY  forget ppa for a while, first reinstall ubuntu ... why are you so focused on ppa's?
[20:28] <BrAsS_mOnKeY> i had no idea what they were, just installed it
[20:28] <BrAsS_mOnKeY> followed instrutions
[20:28] <anom> hai gaiz
[20:28] <paddyez> is my keyfile wrong? http://paste.ubuntu.com/16324229/
[20:28] <anom> Hai
[20:29] <BrAsS_mOnKeY> i don't know the extent of how unsafe or what damage has been done running the ppa even after reinstalling os.
[20:29] <Bashing-om> phillyj: Welp, that too reflects that Nvidia driver is in use . I can not say why "additional Drivers" does not agree .
[20:29] <Pici> BrAsS_mOnKeY: probably no damage.
[20:29] <BrAsS_mOnKeY> ok.
[20:30] <bekks> BrAsS_mOnKeY: Reinstalling yout OS means you create a new vm.
[20:30] <anom> Is ubuntus defefault terminal true color?
[20:30] <MonkeyDust> BrAsS_mOnKeY  no need to be paranoid, simply delete the ubuntu vm and create a new
[20:30] <anom> default*
[20:30] <BrAsS_mOnKeY> ok :)
[20:30] <phillyj> Bashing-om: should I deactivate and try to activate again?
[20:30] <MonkeyDust> BrAsS_mOnKeY  and avoid ppa's for now
[20:30] <zykotick9> anom: i'd suspect 8 colour?  256 colour terminals is the highest i've even heard of...
[20:30] <BrAsS_mOnKeY> ok
[20:31] <Bashing-om> phillyj: Sure you can try .. outside of this little quirk - all else is good ?
[20:31] <BrAsS_mOnKeY> thank you all for explaining :)
[20:32] <phillyj> Bashing-om: no, my windows still messed up. Is my window manager the problem?
[20:32] <BrAsS_mOnKeY> i'll go to virtualbox and remove ubuntu
[20:32] <anom> http://askubuntu.com/questions/512525/how-to-enable-24bit-true-color-support-in-gnome-terminal well according to this, there was a gnoe-terminal with 24bit
[20:32] <anom> this was a few years ago, 14.04, wondering if 16.04 24 bit is the default now?
[20:33] <zykotick9> anom: you _might_ be able to check with "tput colors"?
[20:33] <anom> says  256
[20:33] <anom> hmmph
[20:33] <Bashing-om> phillyj: I got another thought .. did 'nvidia-settings' also install .. been too long since I saw 12.04, in 14.04 nvidi-setting auto installs as a dependency when the driver is installed . ' dpkg -l | grep -i nvidia ' .
[20:35] <zykotick9> Bashing-om: <sidenote, you probably already know>  you can use ^ with grep to search at start of word, so "dpkg -l | grep -i ^nvidia" will only return stuff that starts with nvidia... might cut down on results sometimes ;)
[20:37] <Bashing-om> zykotick9: Yeah .. that too can come in handy .
[20:37] <phillyj> Bashing-om: http://paste.ubuntu.com/16324370/
[20:39] <askpcguy> anybody?
[20:42] <Retina> hello
[20:42] <Retina> do you recommend ubuntu 16.04
[20:42] <Retina> is it stable or buggy?
[20:42] <bekks> Retina: It is released and considered stable.
[20:43] <tonyt> 16.04 works fine here
[20:43] <Retina> what about the bug about package install bug?
[20:44] <bekks> Retina: Define "the bug" please.
[20:44] <Bashing-om> phillyj: Hummm 364 version of nvidia-settings installed when the 361 driver version was installed .. not sure what to make of that . Cam you adjust your display from nvidia-settings ?
[20:44] <OerHeks> Retina, bug has solved, 3th party debs install problem
[20:44] <Retina> bekks I mean the bug about third-partt apps.
[20:45] <bekks> Retina: Can you link the bug report?
[20:45] <Retina> bekks no need to share the link. It is wide know but OerHeks states it is already patched.
[20:45] <Exagone313> what was this bug? I upgraded 2 days before release and didn't have any problem with third party repo
[20:45] <phillyj> Bashing-om: what do you want me to do in nvidia-settings?
[20:45] <Retina> see here: http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2016/04/ubuntu-16-04-deb-software-install-error
[20:46] <Bashing-om> zykotick9: http://paste.ubuntu.com/16324186/ line 124 and others " 5.243] (WW) Warning, couldn't open module nv " can you shed some light on what might be going on with nouveau ?
[20:47] <askpcguy> nevermind then
[20:48] <Bashing-om> phillyj: Nothing that I know of .. what is the condition of the desk top if you log into the guest account ? Maybe a config issue in your user account ?
[20:50] <yrittaja_> eventhough the settings on power are so that nothing happens when the computer is idle laptop keeps logging out and turning off the screen when it is idle after a while, how can i change this permanently?
[20:50] <phillyj> Bashing-om: guest session is Unity. WHOA...
[20:50] <phillyj> Bashing-om: after logging out of guest into my main acct, desktop looks normal
[20:51] <Bashing-om> phillyj: Ouch ! We have multiple Desktop Environments installed ?
[20:51] <phillyj> yes
[20:51] <phillyj> i think this was the xfce or something
[20:51] <phillyj> i forget
[20:52] <phillyj> ah, xubuntu
[20:52] <Bashing-om> phillyj: K, if there is a continued problem .. may gave to re-configure for the desired DE .
[20:52] <zykotick9> Bashing-om: nv is not nouveau or nvidia... it's the ancient nvidia driver
[20:52] <Bray90820> What's the latest JRE for ubuntu
[20:52] <Bashing-om> zykotick9: Thanks ! For that bit of knowledge .
[20:53] <OerHeks> Bray90820, you can easily check yourself in softwarecenter
[20:53] <yrittaja_> I go to power on settings and set it to never go into sleep mode or turn the screen off
[20:53] <phillyj> Bashing-om: after rebooting PC, issue is back. How do I configure for the "desired DE"?
[20:53] <yrittaja_> but it still does it
[20:53] <yrittaja_> I want to change this permanently
[20:54] <Bray90820> OerHeks: All i find in the software center related to are is visual VM
[20:54] <phillyj> Bashing-om: so issue only goes away when I am logged in Guest account also
[20:55] <OerHeks> Bray90820, how did you search for openjdk?
[20:55] <Bashing-om> phillyj: try ' sudo dpkg-reconfigure lightdm ' to set the default display manager.
[20:55] <Bray90820> OerHeks: By typing in jdk
[20:56] <kgirthofer> hey all - anyone have a script that takes their internet speed at interval and puts it into a file?
[20:56] <kgirthofer> i'd like to hold my isp responsible for giving me slow speeds so often
[20:59] <phillyj> Bashing-om: then what do i do?
[21:02] <loafy> howdy howdy
[21:03] <MonkeyDust> !info speedtest-cli | kgirthofer is this useful
[21:04] <OerHeks> kgirthofer, i think you want bmon or vnstat http://www.binarytides.com/linux-commands-monitor-network/
[21:05] <nacc> Bray90820: why would search for JDK when you want the JRE?
[21:05] <phillyj> Bashing-om: should i upgrade my xubuntu desktop?
[21:05] <nacc> Bray90820: search for jre and the openjdk-jre's show up. I don't know why they don't show up for 'jdk'
[21:06] <OerHeks> nacc, i think he has a clue now, openjdk
[21:06] <Bray90820> nacc: I actually want the JDK
[21:06] <Bashing-om> phillyj: A slip of the mind ... prior to " sudo dpkg-reconfigure" we need to stop X . ' sudo stop lightdm ; sudo dpkg-reconfigure lightdm ; sudo dpkg-reconfigure unity-greeter ; sudo service lightdm start '
[21:06] <nacc> OerHeks: ack, and they show up for 'openjdk' too, just not 'jdk'; unclear why
[21:07] <Bray90820> nacc: Actually nothing show3 up when I type in jre
[21:12] <nacc> Bray90820: what version of ubuntu?
[21:13] <ygorl> is there a China ubuntu mirror ?
[21:13] <Bray90820> nacc: 16.04
[21:14] <phillyj> Bashing-om: does this take a long time? I'm on the black screen saying Xubuntu 12.04 and some orange text messages
[21:14] <OerHeks> ygorl, sure
[21:14] <phillyj> some kind of terminal screen, i think Bashing-om
[21:15] <ygorl> OerHeks: do you know the address ?  actually a HK one would be fine
[21:15] <nacc> Bray90820: strange, works for me with ubuntu 16.04, ubuntu software center and 'jre'. Do you see the appropriate packages with 'openjdk' ?
[21:15] <Bashing-om> phillyj: Should not take long at all .. What is on the terminal at this time ?
[21:16] <Bray90820> nacc: Do you mean when I type in 'openjdk'
[21:16] <OerHeks> ygorl, http://wiki.linux.org.hk/w/Ubuntu_mirrors 3 sites on top
[21:16] <nacc> Bray90820: yes, does anything show up if you search for openjdk?
[21:16] <phillyj> Bashing-om: it seems to be start-up messages, last one says "*Checking battery state... [OK]"
[21:17] <Bray90820> nacc: Nothing but if I type in idk visualVM shows up
[21:17] <OerHeks> ygorl, http://ftp.cuhk.edu.hk/pub/Linux/ubuntu-releases/16.04/
[21:17] <phillyj> Bashing-om: before that it says "saned disabled; edit /etc/default/saned
[21:18] <nacc> Bray90820: that seems odd, something maybe is up with your sources, or with the USS directly, but unfortunately i need to step away; hpoefully someone else can help out
[21:18] <Bashing-om> phillyj: I do not know " visualVM " .. are you running this install in a Virtual environment ? .
[21:18] <OerHeks> Bray90820,  strange dude, here openjdk and jre show up
[21:18] <OerHeks> * when search for jdk
[21:19] <phillyj> no, bashing om
[21:23] <phillyj> Bashing-om: are the commands you gave me to reconfigure correct? I think the DE is not restarting up
[21:23] <Bray90820> nacc: OerHeks can you screenshot it for me?
[21:24] <Bashing-om> phillyj: I just can not imagine. ctl+c to terminate the current process . Reboot and at the login screen what options do you have for the desired DE ? I must be away from the keyboard for a good spell . Be back later .
[21:25] <OerHeks> !find openjdk
[21:25] <will_> -ob
[21:26] <Bray90820> OerHeks: nacc: Are boy using new or old software center?
[21:41] <reinecath> @search scott pratt
[21:46] <Bray90820> OerHeks: nacc: Are you using new or old software center to find the jdk?
[21:50] <squinty> Bray90820,  in a terminal type    aptitude search jdk   or   apt search jdk   that should show all jdk related files available from the repo's
[21:53] <boriseto> Hello, can somebody please explain me why did jayatana stopped working with a few apps on 16.04 (like Netbeans), but it works without a problem on 14.04, same version and all?
[21:53] <Bray90820> squinty: http://pastebin.com/raw/b68DewXR
[21:55] <OerHeks> I run the old softwarecenter on 15.10 .. but find it hard to believe you find no openjdk, Bray90820
[21:56] <OerHeks> oh, see, it is there
[21:56] <Bray90820> Well why doesn't it show when I type in in in the search box than
[21:56] <bprompt> boriseto:  check your java installation I'd think, since netbeans and jayatana are jvm based
[21:57] <bprompt> Bray90820:    what are you looking for again?   jvm?
[21:57] <OerHeks> Bray90820, again: how did you search for openjdk? "openjdk" should have given you a clue...
[21:58] <OerHeks> and nacc told you too..
[21:58] <vexati0n> join #ubuntu-gnome
[21:58] <Bray90820> bprompt: jre
[21:58] <vexati0n> arg
[21:59] <squinty> OerHeks, Bray90820  doesn't show up here in the new software center on 16.04 either
[21:59] <OerHeks> ..huh?
[21:59] <vexati0n> --- so I run Ubuntu Gnome Desktop, and while Unity detects my touchpad just fine and gives me all the options, Gnome Shell thinks it's a simple mouse. Any idea why that might be?
[21:59] <Bray90820> So where should I go from here
[21:59] <bprompt> Bray90820:       I do see default-jre as well as openjdk-8-jre in the search results
[21:59] <OerHeks> file a bugreport for that
[21:59] <squinty> Bray90820,  apt show openjdk
[22:00] <bprompt> Bray90820:    well, I'm looking in Synaptic search that is
[22:00] <boriseto> bprompt, using oracle java 8 on both 16.04 and 14.04, but jayatana doesn't seem to work. Oh well, will dig a little more...
[22:00] <OerHeks> squinty, did you searched for openjdk or just jdk?
[22:00] <Bray90820> squinty: N: Unable to locate package openjdk
[22:01] <squinty> OerHeks, openjdk
[22:01] <OerHeks> dang, buggy softwarecenter..
[22:02] <bprompt> boriseto:     try running it at the terminal, to see if it shows any errors
[22:02] <squinty> Bray90820,  that last command  (apt show openjdk)  should have returned quite a number of hits
[22:02] <boriseto> bprompt, will give it a try now, after logout/login
[22:03] <Bray90820> squinty: http://pastebin.com/raw/mx3R73nz
[22:04] <squinty> Bray90820,   sorry  that should have read as "apt search openjdk"
[22:05] <Bray90820> squinty: http://pastebin.com/raw/w3e8mb3h
[22:05] <bprompt> or rather apt-cache search openjdk   # /me ducks
[22:06] <willian_> hello
[22:06] <bprompt> allo
[22:06] <Guest81> oi
[22:06] <willian_> tudo bem?
[22:06] <willian_> tem brazuca aí, que bom!
[22:07] <bprompt> !br | willian_
[22:09] <macdado> good evening, i'm planning to install with dual boot win 10 on a decently recent laptop (just more than 1 year old)
[22:10] <squinty> Bray90820,  fwiw, I find a lot of the time aptitude shows a more condensed listing when doing quick searchs.  might want to try it yourself.   sudo apt install aptitude   and then look for the package you want to install.  openjdk-8-jdk  or openjdk-9-jdk  are shown here
[22:10] <macdado> are there any challenges? I remember there being something with EFI booting
[22:12] <Bray90820> squinty: How exactly do I install something with aptitude
[22:13] <squinty> Bray90820,  use apt to install    sudo apt install openjdk-9-jdk   for example.
[22:14] <squinty> Bray90820,  i only suggested searching (not installing with) aptitude due to it's more compact listing
[22:14] <Bray90820> squinty: so should I install with the softwareThen how would I install?
[22:14] <Bray90820> Sorry let me reset that
[22:15] <Bray90820> squinty: So how would I install the packages then
[22:15] <squinty> Bray90820,  just type in terminal   sudo apt install openjdk-9-jdk (if that is the one you want)  personally I don't use the jdk
[22:16] <cannibal> hi
[22:17] <cannibal> I have a problem, no matter what version of ubuntu i install keyboard shortcuts dont work like Ctrl + A
[22:17] <Bray90820> squinty: http://pastebin.com/raw/1V3mR7cs
[22:17] <squinty> Bray90820,  you can use apt to install any of the packages found in the repo's if the software center is acting up (it's buggy)  so you could do  sudo apt install firefox  for example
[22:17] <cannibal> even when installing arch the live boot terminal didnt work with ctrl c
[22:19] <Bray90820> squinty: did you see my paste after trying to install the jdk
[22:21] <squinty> Bray90820,  type  sudo apt autoremove first
[22:21] <squinty> "sudo apt autoremove"   without the quotes that is
[22:21] <OerHeks> cannibal, here too, use your mouse to select
[22:22] <OerHeks> + right click > copy
[22:23] <Bray90820> squinty: So autoremove then install?
[22:23] <squinty> Bray90820, yes
[22:23] <cannibal> I have a problem, no matter what version of ubuntu i install keyboard shortcuts dont work like Ctrl + A
[22:23] <django_> hey all
[22:24] <django_> id like to setup a dual boot, i have a laptop with windows 8
[22:24] <virtuosoj> I'm having a problem with my wifi adapter: When I first start up the computer, it works great.  After a suspend, the wifi no longer works at all until next restart.  Laptop: Lenovo Thinkpad X220  Wireless card: Intel Centrino Wireless-N 1000  Ubuntu version: 16.04
[22:25] <kbytes> django_: just insert Ubuntu and go with installation process
[22:25] <django_> kbytes: i need to do the partition
[22:25] <Bray90820> squinty: http://pastebin.com/raw/kG8d9Ax5
[22:25] <django_> on my hard drive
[22:25] <kbytes> django_: it will ask you
[22:25] <virtuosoj> django: use Windows 8's tools to shrink the Windows partition to the size you want it
[22:25] <dibs> hey all, so I removed myself from all groups :( and am now adding myself back to them but I need a list of groups I may have been in/should be in
[22:26] <django_> kbytes: oh i dont have to do it before?
[22:26] <virtuosoj> then use the tools in Ubuntu's installer to repartition the new space
[22:26] <kbytes> as virtuosoj says
[22:28] <squinty> Bray90820,  sorry but I am not familiar enough with the java packages to determine exactly what is going on with installing that package.  hopefully someone else will be able to chime in
[22:28] <Bray90820> Anyone else?
[22:30] <squinty> Bray90820,  look like it's a buglet maybe  see https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/openjdk-9/+bug/1570768
[22:31] <Abe_> hey can I change kernel version on boot? I need to save the Option too
[22:31] <Bray90820> q120_: Someone in ##java said
[22:31] <Bray90820> it looks like two packages provide the same files, without fully specifying that they conflict (and therefore without specifying that apt should not try to install both)
[22:31] <karma> hi, guys
[22:32] <squinty> Bray90820,  maybe   http://askubuntu.com/questions/769467/can-not-install-openjdk-9-jdk-because-it-tries-to-overwrite-file-aready-includ
[22:32] <Abe_> my compyter doesn't boot with kernel 4.2 :( only if I run 3.13
[22:32] <Codfection> guys how to instal virtual box in ubuntu????????>
[22:32] <cannibal> is there a fix for keyboard shortcuts not working ?
[22:33] <Codfection> cannibal, UPDATE drivers
[22:33] <cannibal> how do i do that?
[22:33] <Codfection> sorry abt capslock my laptop typo
[22:33] <virtuosoj> I'm having a problem with my wifi adapter: When I first start up the computer, it works great.  After a suspend, the wifi no longer works at all until next restart.  Laptop: Lenovo Thinkpad X220  Wireless card: Intel Centrino Wireless-N 1000  Ubuntu version: 16.04
[22:33] <Codfection> apt-get update
[22:33] <Codfection> sudo apt-get update
[22:33] <cannibal> linux noob looking to learn sorry
[22:33] <Codfection> virtuosoj, SAME problem here
[22:33] <Codfection> u using 16.04?
[22:33] <virtuosoj> yes.
[22:33] <Codfection> virtuosoj, it shows 2 arrows sign right
[22:34] <Codfection> after sometime
[22:34] <cannibal> Codfection, should i restart after it
[22:34] <cannibal> or should it take effect immediatly
[22:34] <Codfection> cannibal, write this
[22:34] <virtuosoj> after suspend, it shows an ethernet icon where the wifi indicator normally is
[22:34] <Codfection> sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[22:34] <Codfection> virtuosoj, but the wifi keeps working right
[22:34] <Codfection> just the sign changes
[22:35] <cannibal> ok done
[22:35] <virtuosoj> Codfection, no the wifi stops working completely after suspend.
[22:35] <Codfection> sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[22:35] <Codfection> virtuosoj, write the above commands
[22:35] <Codfection> on terminal
[22:35] <kbytes> what is our favorite spotify CLI client?, is there one with a VU meter?
[22:36] <cannibal> Codfection, done
[22:37] <cannibal> Codfection, do i have to restart now?
[22:37] <Codfection> cannibal, yea
[22:37] <OerHeks> kbytes, i know 1 spotify cli client, without vu meter http://ubuntuhandbook.org/index.php/2015/05/spotify-client-terminal-console/
[22:37] <Codfection> come back after restarting
[22:38] <cannibal> Codfection,  thanks
[22:38] <numbers> Hey, not sure where exactly to do this, but ubuntu site said I could mention it here:
[22:40] <numbers> I was downloading ubuntu-gnome via torrent today. 3 times, and neither hashtag matched up... Figured I'd mention it so someone can check why I kept getting bogus iso's... 160.4 -64 bit. Regular download iso checksums do match up though.
[22:40] <Bray90820> squinty: Now I am getting some other errors
[22:40] <Bray90820> http://pastebin.com/raw/VZtS39Yb
[22:40] <cannibal> Codfection, still no work
[22:41] <bprompt> numbers:    why using torrents? why not use the official iso link?
[22:41] <OerHeks> torrents should be fine..
[22:41] <cfhowlett> official torrents are the preferred download method
[22:41] <R0binh00d> In case you want to speed up downloads, use axel
[22:42] <R0binh00d> sudo apt-get -y install axel
[22:42] <cannibal> anybody else have an idea how to fix keyboard shortcuts not working?
[22:42] <cfhowlett> numbers, same incorrect hashtag each time?  and these were official torrents from ubuntu?
[22:42] <Codfection> cannibal, you might consider asking someone more professional such as OerHeks
[22:42] <bprompt> cfhowlett:    ok... that doesn't quite give an rational behind it though =)
[22:42] <R0binh00d> axel -v -a -n 25 <URL> ... downloads using 25 concurrent connections
[22:42] <R0binh00d> or use the Downthemall pluging or Firefox
[22:42] <OerHeks> cannibal, here too in terminal, use your mouse to select + right click > copy
[22:42] <cannibal> Codfection, ok thanks
[22:42] <Codfection> guys if some package is available on 14.04 and not on 16.04 .. can I install it manually?
[22:42] <bprompt> numbers:   are you just looking for a fast iso download?
[22:42] <Potato_> hey guys
[22:43] <R0binh00d> hey Potato_ I got some tomato ;-)
[22:43] <R0binh00d> j/k
[22:43] <Potato_> i wanna spin Ubuntu in a VM
[22:43] <cannibal> OerHeks, ?
[22:43] <R0binh00d> ok Potato_ so what's the challenge?
[22:43] <Potato_> do i use the recommended values ?
[22:43] <Codfection> guys if some package is available on 14.04 and not on 16.04 .. can I install it manually?
[22:43] <OerHeks> cannibal, you stated earlier that it doesn't work with terminal, that is correct.
[22:43] <numbers> i got the iso from the direct link and that was fine, but the checksums were wrong every time I tried to get it via torrent. Wasn't sure if someones posting corrupted isos on torrent through the main ubuntu-gnome links
[22:43] <cannibal> yes
[22:43] <cannibal> or firefox
[22:43] <squinty> Bray90820,  do what the error message says and type   apt-get -f install
[22:43] <Potato_> using virtualbox from oracle
[22:44] <cannibal> OerHeks, g2g
[22:44] <cannibal> sorry
[22:44] <Bray90820> squinty: I did run 'apt-get -f install' just telling you about the errors incase you knew something boy them that I didn't
[22:44] <OerHeks> numbers, i am going to check my official torrents i seed, hard to believe they are corrupt, but i let you know, brb
[22:44] <bprompt> Codfection:    yes and no, depends on the package dependencies
[22:45] <R0binh00d> Potato_, here is how I spin Ubuntu VM
[22:45] <Codfection> when I try installing through apt-get it says Unable to locate package.. bprompt
[22:45] <R0binh00d> (Which is where I am IRCing right now)
[22:45] <squinty> Bray90820,  that error message states that not all dependancies were installed so that command is need to be run to try and solve that
[22:45] <R0binh00d> and I use Ubuntu MATE, my personal specs are
[22:45] <Bray90820> yep
[22:45] <bprompt> Codfection:    right, that just means, it's not in the repository, is all :)
[22:45] <squinty> Bray90820,  so did it complete without any further errors?
[22:45] <R0binh00d> 2 Procs, 1.5 Gigs of RAM, 15G Hard Drive
[22:45] <bprompt> Codfection:   what package are you looking for anyway?
[22:46] <Codfection> bprompt, so should I install the version for 14.04 manually ?
[22:46] <Codfection> zzuf
[22:46] <Codfection> bprompt, zzuf
[22:46] <Bray90820> squinty: uh now I got a mess
[22:47] <Bray90820> squinty: http://pastebin.com/raw/JLGaZGje
[22:47] <bprompt> hmmm
[22:48] <squinty> Bray90820,  yeah same problem as before then.  might have to wait for a bug fix to come down the line.
[22:49] <Bray90820> squinty: I might just need to downgrade ubuntu
[22:49] <OerHeks> numbers, they are certainly correct, see http://i.imgur.com/JLkxjpv.png
[22:49] <squinty> Bray90820,  :(
[22:51] <Bray90820> This is a server that requires java so my family members won't be able to access the music server until java is fixed
[22:51] <Bray90820> Actually if I could get a deb of the jdk i might be able to just install that
[22:51] <bprompt> Codfection:    hmmm   I don't see any PPA for zzuf... but I do see it  for 15.10... you may be able to use that... download the .deb's and try to install manually with dpkg
[22:52] <squinty> Bray90820,  might want to try purging the 9 install and try openjdk-8-jdk
[22:52] <bprompt> Codfection:    on the other hand, if you have the .deb for the 14.04 install, try those, if anything, you can always just remove them with dpkg -r
[22:54] <Bray90820> squinty: actually I could even go a low as 7 since the dependencies for my music server are only as high as 7
[22:57] <squinty> Bray90820,  there is no 7 package available in the 16.04 repo's here... just 8 and 9.  might be available though if you are running an earlier version of ubuntu
[22:57] <Bray90820> Doesn't really matter 8 and 9 will both work just fine
[22:58] <squinty> Bray90820,  probably good to try 8 then and wait for the fix for 9 to come down the line
[22:59] <Bray90820> Honestly I will prob never end up installing 9 until I update ubuntu again :P
[22:59] <OerHeks> openjdk 8 is stable ..
[22:59] <squinty> Bray90820,  lol!
[23:00] <OerHeks> Bray90820, really, i was thinking you were not reading correctly, i am still flabergasted with this new softwarecenter
[23:01] <Bray90820> Yeah
[23:01] <Bray90820> It's well for lack of a better term not good
[23:03] <squinty> Bray90820,  btw, for installing/uninstalling deb's you could also use synaptic rather than apt, apt-get etc.
[23:03] <Bray90820> I think java is installed but now I can't load the applet in firefox
[23:11] <POwerless> hey guys
[23:13] <POwerless> theres something that has been bothering me since ive installed ubuntu. ive noticed that the color are much "stronger" than windows and thats killiing my sight. am i the only one who feels that?
[23:13] <SonikkuAmerica> POwerless: "Stronger"? Explain.
[23:13] <bazhang> POwerless, so change the theme
[23:14] <Codfection> can I know if I download something from github
[23:14] <Codfection> how can I install or run it
[23:14] <Codfection> I can find package for the same software but its outdated
[23:14] <POwerless> the color are brighter it seems to me...ive changed the theme but all of them look the same to me
[23:14] <Codfection> I know I can use dpkg -i to install package. but this one I downloaded from github is in files. so any idea?
[23:14] <OerHeks> POwerless, go into systemsettings >colour> and set the profile/calibrate monitor
[23:15] <Codfection> ?
[23:15] <OerHeks> This should be done after install, but i had to find out myself
[23:15] <Codfection> can I know if I download something from github
[23:15] <Codfection> how can I install or run it
[23:16] <Codfection> I know I can use dpkg -i to install package. but this one I downloaded from github is in files. so any idea?
[23:16] <k1l_> POwerless: you can take a look at redshift
[23:16] <k1l_> Codfection: read the readme
[23:17] <POwerless> whats red shift? i dont know much about linux universe
[23:17] <bazhang> !info redshift
[23:17] <k1l_> Codfection: and are you sure you want to install that code not using the package managementsystem?
[23:18] <k1l_> POwerless: its also known for windows. it make the screen a bit more red according to the daylight/night to not be so bright
[23:18] <Codfection> I think I dont have to install
[23:18] <Codfection> just to run
[23:18] <Codfection> but dont know how
[23:18] <Codfection> I cant install coz its not in package management right
[23:19] <Codfection> readme didnt helo thou k1l_
[23:19] <k1l_> Codfection: we cant guess what code you got there. so read the documentation from that code you do have there.
[23:19] <Codfection> its a C file
[23:19] <Codfection> something.C
[23:19] <Codfection> like that]
[23:20] <k1l_> you need to compile it first then. but that doesnt sound right at all. that is not how programs are distributed.
[23:20] <POwerless> k1l_, ill look into it
[23:21] <Codfection> its actually a command line program
[23:21] <Codfection> like sudo leafpad etcetc
[23:22] <POwerless> k1l_, wow its all VERY red now hahaha
[23:22] <Codfection> leafpad being run in terminal instead of opening new pae
[23:22] <k1l_> dont run everything with sudo.
[23:22] <pete234> I know ubuntu can be used as a live CD
[23:22] <k1l_> POwerless: yeah, that is heavy first. but your eyes will get used to it in 10 minutes and you will see they dont get tired that fast then
[23:22] <pete234> is it easy to use ubuntu as a live CD as well as save files with it?
[23:23] <pete234> like install programs and have them saved?
[23:23] <POwerless> k1l_, what if i want to cancel it? how do i do it?
[23:23] <pete234> with the live cd version?
[23:24] <k1l_> pete234: not possible with a cd. with usb that works
[23:24] <pete234> well sorry about the wording
[23:24] <pete234> :)
[23:24] <pete234> i meant witha  usb hahah
[23:24] <pete234> so that is easy to do with usb?
[23:24] <bazhang> persistent usb is it pete234
[23:24] <bazhang> !usb | pete234
[23:24] <pete234> what you mean bazhang?
[23:25] <k1l_> pete234: its called "persistence". and the usb maker got a settings to make some space on the usb for that
[23:25] <pete234> cool dude
[23:25] <bazhang> read the link above pete234
[23:25] <pete234> thanks for the information
[23:25] <pete234> that is what i was looking for man
[23:25] <pete234> thanks
[23:25] <pete234> for your help
[23:25] <bazhang> also see pendrivelinux.com pete234
[23:25] <k1l_> POwerless: kill the process.
[23:25] <pete234> cool man
[23:25] <k1l_> POwerless: i use redhisft-gtk which makes me a indicator in the panel
[23:26] <ygorl> in ubuntu server, i have changed the configuration of an interface ( by editing /etc/network/interfaces.d/eth2.cfg ) . how do i make the system recognize the new ip configuration ?
[23:26] <ygorl> ubuntu server 14.04
[23:26] <POwerless> k1l_, i killed it and its still running :S
[23:28] <k1l_> POwerless: "ps ax |grep redshift | nc termbin.com 9999"
[23:29] <POwerless> k1l_, i uninstalled it and still it didnt fix it so i just set back my colors in settings
[23:29] <k1l_> ok
[23:29] <POwerless> k1l_, now my eyes are bugged lol
[23:30] <OerHeks> ygorl, sudo ifdown eth0 && sudo ifup eth0 # where eth0 is your networkadapter
[23:30] <OerHeks> brb reboot
[23:32] <ygorl> OerHeks: i do not think that reloads the network config from what i have written in /etc/network/interfaces/*.cfg
[23:32] <ygorl> also im reading https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ifupdown/+bug/1301015
[23:32] <ygorl> what a nightmare
[23:32] <pete234> i have another question about ubuntu persistance. Is there a way to install ubunbu on usb with full disk encryption?
[23:32] <ygorl> i think its reasonable to be able to restart ( as in stop... load in the new network config... start networking ) networking
[23:33] <k1l_> pete234: that would not be a live system.
[23:33] <OerHeks> ygorl, it should ..
[23:33] <ygorl> OerHeks: read that thread ! and i just tried it about 50 times ... it does not
[23:33] <OerHeks> ygorl, you think or notice this not working?
[23:33] <k1l_> pete234: i think you could make a container to safe the data in. but not FDE
[23:33] <booh> Question about mdadm.  I have md0 with 2 drives 500GB and md1 with 2 drives 1TB.  Can I make a 1TB partition in my fifth drive and use it as spare drive for any of md0 or md1 ?
[23:34] <pete234> makes sense k1l.. i guess there isnt an option in the settings to encrypt the persistant part right?
[23:34] <pete234> without manually doing it?
[23:34] <ygorl> OerHeks: i notice right now its not working, when i change network info ( in a file ), restarting networking does not use it
[23:34] <k1l_> pete234: no. no such setting
[23:34] <pete234> thanks k1l
[23:35] <ygorl> ygorl: i can easily do it the hardway ( /sbin/ifconfig interface blah blah ) but i want to do it while writing to files in /etc/network/interfaces/
[23:35] <ygorl> lots of angry people in that thread
[23:35] <ygorl> what am i doing wrong
[23:37] <OerHeks> ygorl, sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart does not work indeed, sudo ifdown eth0 && sudo ifup eth0 should..
[23:38] <faca> hi
[23:39] <yrittaja_> IF I set the power settings to never hibernate/suspend when idle this doesnt work, how can I open the power settings and permanently set it so that it doesnt do that from the terminal using sudo?
[23:40] <yrittaja_> i just opened it by using sudo unity-control-center and the settings where set to do nothing but it still kicks me out when idle
[23:41] <OerHeks> yrittaja_, don't open unity-control-center with sudo
[23:42] <tim`> is there a way to get keyboard working on usb boot for 16.04 on mactel (11,3 macbookpro) ?
[23:42] <tim`> been wrestling this for a while :(
[23:43] <pcazman> alsa mixer keeps on muteing itself. any way I can stop it?
[23:46] <OerHeks> pcazman, open terminal: alsamixer # hit F3 playback and use arrow keys to scroll to automute, see http://www.tutonics.com/2012/10/fix-no-sound-turn-off-auto-mute-in.html ( still valid for 14.04/16.04)
[23:46] <jair> Hello all, I did installed ibus for my japanese/english keyboard and typing but the ibus needs to be started all the time I reboot the machine
[23:46] <pcazman> ok I will try thanks
[23:47] <jair> I wonder what will be the best way to configure it to start up automatically
[23:51] <everson> Hi all. As the root user, I'm trying to launch gnome-terminal with a specific profile (that of my normal user account), but it's not working. I'm using gnome-terminal --window-with-profile=everson (and this everson profile definitely exists because it is the default profile when I run gnome-terminal without having first run sudo su). Any ideas? Thanks
[23:57] <squinty> jair:  not sure if this will answer your question but I thought I would pass it along just in case.   https://help.ubuntu.com/16.04/ubuntu-help/keyboard-layouts.html
[23:58] <django_> hey all
[23:59] <django_> installing ubuntu, i want dual boot with windows..should I do nstall alongside windows or something else