[00:00] <ouroumov> Ubuntu MATE on patreon is currently @ 1024$
[00:00] <ouroumov> A nice, round number
[00:01] <SonikkuAmerica> Power of 2
[00:18] <colbyls> Hello, I am currently using mint mate. Planning to swithch to ubuntu16.x LTS. I want to continue to use gtk2-mate as my desktop as I have made substantial theme modifications which will take some time (or never be able) to port to gtk3. Is the current, 16.0x LTS  mate release compatable with gtk2 themes
[00:19] <ouroumov> colbyls, yes
[00:20] <colbyls> thank you
[00:20] <ouroumov> The GTK3 drive concerns 16.10 and 17.04
[00:21] <colbyls> OK. I'm guessing that as long as I am on 16.x LTS I will have a bit of time to work on converting my themes etc.
[00:21] <ouroumov> If you stick to LTS, at least two years yes
[00:22] <colbyls> That's what I was hoping. Thank you again and I'm going to start my download; bye
[01:17] <pilne> i'm still getting used to apt instead of apt-get... not sure if i like it yet lol
[01:20] <ouroumov> I haven't noticed much past a cosmetic difference :/
[01:20] <ouroumov> Plus well, 4 less characters
[02:52] <michael_> hello everyone
[02:53] <michael_> anyone else having screen tearing issues? :( I'm using NVIDIA GTX GeForce 750 with Compton Marco and it works fine, but when I go to reboot machine, I'll get tearing again. The settings saved to Marcon Compton, but get screen tearing. Screen tearing will go away if switch away from Compton Marco and back...
[03:54] <YankDownUnder> Screen tearing?
[03:54] <YankDownUnder> Hmm...right...
[04:24] <rajiv_> How to resume a download from "wget"?
[04:33] <SonikkuAmerica> rajiv_: [ wget -c $SITE ]
[04:34] <SonikkuAmerica> where $SITE is the place you're downloading it from.
[04:41] <rajiv_> Whenever i install ubuntu-mate 16.04 lts, then after 10 minutes of the start of the install the screen turns off. When i move the mouse the screen turns on again. Anybody please tell me why this is happening?
[05:08] <rajiv1> Whenever i install ubuntu-mate 16.04 lts i386, then exactly 10 minutes after the start of the install , the screen turns off. After moving the mouse slightly the screen turns on again. Why this is happening? Is it normal?
[05:12] <alkisg> rajiv1: it's called "screen saver"
[05:14] <rajiv1> alkisg: screen saver works during the installation process as well!
[05:16] <rajiv1> Ok. thankyou:)
[05:17] <alkisg> :)
[11:34] <chemaher76> helow
[11:52] <TwoNotes> No audio out of RPi3 headphone jack, even with "bcm2835" port selected.  USB works
[12:03] <sireorion> hey guys.. is it possible to bridge networks in U-M?
[12:04] <gordonjcp> sireorion: you can in any Linux
[12:04] <gordonjcp> what the desktop looks like doesn't have any effect on that
[12:05] <sireorion> gordonjcp: i have tryed in debian and its so f***ng hard to get it right
[12:05] <sireorion> is there any gui apps that can do it?
[12:15] <gordonjcp> no idea
[12:15] <gordonjcp> I can't think why you'd use a GUI for bridging two networks
[12:15] <gordonjcp> or how you'd use a GUI, for that matter
[12:15] <sireorion> does U-M have "network-manager"
[12:16] <gordonjcp> sireorion: what exactly are you trying to do?
[12:16] <ubuntu-mate> +1
[12:16] <ubuntu-mate> Hola
[12:16] <sireorion> im trying to bridge from Wifi to ethernet
[12:16] <ubuntu-mate> Buenos dias
[12:16] <sireorion> que tal?
[12:17] <ubuntu-mate> Saludos sireorion
[12:17] <sireorion> Trate de escribir en Inglés aquí
[12:18] <gordonjcp> sireorion: you just do brctl addbr br0 to create it
[12:18] <gordonjcp> then brctl addif br0 eth0 wlan0
[12:18] <gordonjcp> or whatever your devices are called
[12:18] <sireorion> just remember im a noob at this
[12:18] <sireorion> so ill write that in the terminal?
[12:26] <gordonjcp> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/NetworkConnectionBridge
[12:26] <gordonjcp> ^ have a read of that
[14:25] <Guest77022> i cant bridge my wifi from network manger
[14:31] <mrkelley> I'm working on upgrading my current 14.04 Mate to 16.04. I see there was a major bug filed (#1555237), but it looks like it got resolved. Is the upgrade process known to be stable yet, or is a full reinstall still the best option?
[15:03] <Artemis3> mrkelley, if you can backup/reinstall, that should always be preferred :) (or have /home elsewhere and be careful)
[15:24] <mrkelley> Well, I have /home on a separate partition on all my machines. And I can certainly do a full reinstall. I guess mostly I was wondering if anyone had tried the in-place upgrade yet, that's all. I've got the image, so I can do a re install easily enough. I did an upgrade on one of my standard Canonical servers, but it's a bit different on Ubuntu Mate, so I just wanted to know if anyone had tried it yet.
[15:40] <Guest77022> do i have to disconnect from wired and wifi to do an bridge?
[16:14] <draco_> I have ubuntu 15.10 installed on my machine and for a while I heard many good things about Ubuntu Mate. Is there an official way of installing whole mate desktop from ubuntu mate project on existing installation?
[16:16] <draco_> if I will install ubuntu-mate-desktop, will that be vanilla mate or mate from ubuntu mate project?
[16:20] <nomic> erm
[16:20] <nomic> 16.10 is a long term release now
[16:20] <nomic> = stable -- install that one, not 15.10
[16:20] <nomic> 15.10 runs out of support shortly
[16:21] <nomic> you can upgrade from 15.10 by typing "upgrade" , I think it is
[16:21] <nomic> oh -- you have UBUNTU 15.10
[16:21] <nomic> MATE IS SMALLER
[16:21] <nomic> oops caps
[16:21] <nomic> draco
[16:21] <nomic> you want it dual boot?
[16:22] <nomic> you can install it alongside your ubuntu
[16:47] <user> hello
[16:49] <ouroumov> lo user
[16:49] <user> Where do I post an error/bug with one of the default themes in mate?
[16:50] <ouroumov> Hm, not sure.
[16:51] <ouroumov> What version of MATE is it?
[16:52] <user> The problem is that, if I change SYSTEM>PREFERENCES>LOOK AND FEEL>APPEARANCE to either of the YuYo themes, when I go to APPLICATIONS>ACCESSORIES>DISKS, the volume I click on disappears in the center.
[16:52] <user> 16.04
[16:53] <user> It works in every other theme but YuYo
[16:54] <ouroumov> Is Yuyo included by default in UM16.04? I'm asking 'cause I don't see it on my machine.
[16:54] <user> yes it is
[16:54] <ouroumov> In that case, I think the best place to report it would be the launchpad bug tracker
[16:55] <user> ok thanks
[16:55] <ouroumov> user, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-mate
[17:19] <ariadna-bb> Hi, I've just finished to install Ubuntu Mate 16.04 AMD64 on my old PC.
[17:33] <sarper> Guys I have tried many distros maybe more than 50 and found out that Ubuntu Mate is the best of all!
[17:52] <Akuli> I like devuan more
[17:52] <Akuli> you don't realize how much systemd slows down most other distros until you try it
[20:34] <FireBeard> hello
[20:35] <FireBeard> I just have a question how 'mate' is pronounced, because I pronounce it like 'I like you, mate'
[20:35] <FireBeard> but I hear it pronounced as maté etc?
[20:37] <ouroumov> Yes
[20:37] <ouroumov> MAH TÉ
[20:39] <FireBeard> ouroumov: ridiculous !
[20:39] <FireBeard> I'll just say mate, as in mate
[20:39] <FireBeard> :/
[20:39] <sixwheeledbeast> Ma-Tay  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yerba_mate
[20:40] <FireBeard> it JUST sounds so pretentious to spell it mate, but not pronounce it like it is spelled :/
[20:40] <FireBeard> stupid imho
[20:40] <FireBeard> what do you think, mate
[20:40] <FireBeard> :]
[20:41] <sixwheeledbeast> It's not English, so makes perfect sense IMO
[20:41] <FireBeard> true, I bet most people who use Mate don't have English as their first, second or even third language ;)
[20:41] <sixwheeledbeast> Tomate-o ... tomato
[20:41] <sixwheeledbeast> ;)
[20:42] <FireBeard> I just think it's stupid
[20:42] <FireBeard> to MAKE people call it MA-TAY
[20:42] <FireBeard> it's spelled mate
[20:42] <FireBeard> besides, the word 'mate' sounds friendly, because it means friend
[20:42] <FireBeard> :p
[20:42] <ouroumov> So? I don't go sounding "ussaaaaah" when I say U.S.A
[20:43] <FireBeard> those are loose letters
[20:43] <FireBeard> so u s a
[20:43] <FireBeard> it's not a word, nor is it pretending to be, they are letters
[20:43] <ouroumov> meh
[20:43] <FireBeard> :D
[20:44] <ouroumov> details
[20:44] <FireBeard> so, how's ouroumov ?
[20:44] <ouroumov> It sounds russian :o
[20:44] <FireBeard> it's your name
[20:44] <ouroumov> Indeed
[20:44] <ouroumov> But it's read ala ruskyy
[20:44] <FireBeard> My real name is Fjodor
[20:45] <FireBeard> also russian
[20:45] <ouroumov> "ou rou mof"
[20:45] <FireBeard> ok, not asking anymore about your name then, sorry
[20:45] <ouroumov> =)
[20:45] <FireBeard> I just asked you how you were tho
[20:45] <FireBeard> I myself am OK
[20:47] <ouroumov> Oh
[20:47] <ouroumov> I'm doing quite good. Thanks. =)
[20:51] <FireBeard> ...
[20:52] <ouroumov> ? :o
[20:53] <FireBeard> never mind I guess, wow, I thought I was on another channel this whole time
[20:53] <FireBeard> :/
[20:53] <FireBeard> please forgive me
[20:58] <ouroumov> xD
[21:34] <FireBeard> soo...
[21:35] <FireBeard> I tried to make my old hardware still matter for maybe two years or so
[21:38] <FireBeard> seriously
[21:40] <FireBeard> get this: DO NOT EVER GET THIS MONITOR https://www.alternate.nl/LG/19-5-Monitor-20M37A/html/product/1182344?
[21:40] <chasinglogic> Does anyone know what package has mateconftool-2 in it?
[21:40] <FireBeard> seriously, it's cheap, and it COULD work for some implementations, you'd think.. but no
[21:42] <FireBeard> it's ridiculously sad, like a TN panel from about '95.
[21:44] <FireBeard> it's THAT sad
[21:46] <SonikkuAmerica> chasinglogic: Why do you need mateconf? We migrated to GSettings ages ago
[21:47] <chasinglogic> SonikkuAmerica: mostly because this old script for setting my terminal colors uses it, if gconf does the same thing then I'll just sed it out no big deal
[21:47] <SonikkuAmerica> chasinglogic: you can either use [ gsettings ] on the command line, or install dconf-tools and edit through the graphical dconf Editor
[21:47] <SonikkuAmerica> chasinglogic: Why not edit the script?
[21:47] <chasinglogic> SonikkuAmerica: That's what I meant by sed it out
[21:48] <SonikkuAmerica> ah
[21:48] <chasinglogic> Didn't know they were equivalent thanks!
[21:58] <FireBeard> soo...
[22:05] <FireBeard> timewarp complete, ready for transmission... this is the grandmix 1983
[22:12] <FireBeard> all night long...
[22:15] <FireBeard> soo...
[22:15] <ouroumov> FireBeard, you alright?
[22:15] <FireBeard> I am always alright
[22:15] <ouroumov> I have the feeling you're distressed at the lack of activity here ~
[22:16] <FireBeard> that part is true
[22:16] <FireBeard> I like activity
[22:16] <FireBeard> I like chatting
[22:17] <ouroumov> I think there's a chat channel somewhere on this network :o
[22:17] <FireBeard> there is, several
[22:17] <FireBeard> *are
[22:17] <FireBeard> anyway, I like it here
[22:19] <FireBeard> so make me go, if you want
[22:22] <FireBeard> soo... I cooled it down before you could
[22:23] <FireBeard> seriously whatever cpu, prob about 45 deg
[22:24] <FireBeard> who/what cares
[22:26] <FireBeard> seriously, not one cares??
[22:27] <FireBeard> wow
[22:29] <ouroumov> Not one has probably read you yet
[22:29] <FireBeard> how about making an XP usb boot disk
[22:29] <ouroumov> whatfor?
[22:30] <FireBeard> reinstall an XP machine
[22:30] <FireBeard> just to see how it used to work 'back then'
[22:30] <ouroumov> The goodold'days?
[22:32] <tgm4883> FireBeard: I have almost that exact model sitting on my desk right now
[22:32] <tgm4883> Mine's a 24M37H
[22:33] <FireBeard> mever mind
[22:34] <FireBeard> sorry
[22:36] <FireBeard> soo...
[22:36] <FireBeard> this is not what I wanted
[23:02] <SonikkuAmerica> Oh nuts, the terminal server is dying again.
[23:02] <SonikkuAmerica> Oh, there we go.
[23:03] <ouroumov> x2go?
[23:04] <SonikkuAmerica> wrong channel.
[23:04] <SonikkuAmerica> FireBeard: Whoa, partner...
[23:04] <SonikkuAmerica> Kind of a text wall there.
[23:05] <SonikkuAmerica> There isn't much activity here because most people will go to #ubuntu for non-MATE-related support questions.
[23:05] <SonikkuAmerica> (or to #ubuntu-offtopic for chat)
[23:09] <FireBeard> soo...
[23:28] <dna113p> ANyone ever had an issue with setting keybindings in compizconfig setting manager? THey don't seem to work for me and i'm not quite sure why
[23:30] <ouroumov> dna113p, I'm sure a lot of people have had the problem.
[23:30] <ouroumov> Compiz is a buggy piece of...
[23:34] <dna113p> I just want keys to switch around in workspace wall but noo
[23:55] <doug__> hi I think - I just installed Ubuntu on my RPI. Is a place I can go to ask questions?
[23:56] <ouroumov> hi doug__
[23:58] <ouroumov> You can ask Questions here, or on the community forums. If there's something precise you've got a problem with, ask in this section: https://ubuntu-mate.community/c/support/raspberry-pi-2
[23:59] <doug__> Thanks!  As I worry about in Windows, I want to be sure my OS is properly updated. What is the best way to do this? And of course thanks for any assistance and recommendations :)