[11:16] <Saviq> pstolowski, bug #1154207 :P
[11:17] <pstolowski> Saviq, uhm.. seeing that you commented on it on 2013-11-14 makes me sad
[11:22] <Saviq> pstolowski, I suppose it should be possible for us to override the logger to include timestamps or something - but I *really* feel this should be upstart's job... suppose journalctl would give us that
[11:25] <pstolowski> Saviq, is it realistic to expect any upstart development?
[11:25] <Saviq> pstolowski, no
[11:26] <Saviq> especially since the bug was not received kindly I'd say
[11:26] <pstolowski> i think there was a session on UOS about fully replacing upstart
[11:26] <pstolowski> (long-term)
[11:32] <pstolowski> Saviq, i'd prefer an imperfect solution right now than a perfect one in 1 year from now
[11:32] <Saviq> pstolowski, sure, I know
[11:55]  * greyback reboots to try fix microphone
[12:02] <greyback> curses, powertop autotune on startup screws up my mic
[12:02] <greyback> or more correctly, enaling power management for my intel sound card breaks my mic
[17:28] <mhall119> willcooke: Saviq: ChrisTownsend: bregma: FYI, I wrote down all my workarounds for using Unity 8 on my laptop: http://mhall119.com/2016/05/dogfooding-unity-8/
[17:33] <ChrisTownsend> mhall119: Very cool, thanks for that.
[17:39] <Saviq> mhall119, one correction: yakkety isn't a good target for this, we're not releasing into it atm, just to overlay for both vivid and xenial
[17:39] <Saviq> mhall119, also, the hybris silo is https://requests.ci-train.ubuntu.com/#/silo/31
[17:40] <Saviq> not 53 (I believe Simon moved it over)
[17:41] <bregma> URL bookmarked for reference
[17:41] <greyback> ditto
[17:42] <mhall119> Saviq: thanks, I'll make those updates
[17:44] <bregma> heh, we often play ci-train whack-a-mole with silos, which is one reason we avoid making them public (the other is that the software in them has not yet passed testing, pretty much by definition)
[18:23] <willcooke> nice one, thanks mhall119 - are there any bugs to go with it already?
[18:36] <mhall119> I filed some against webbrowser-app already, but there are more I need to file
[19:44] <drench> unity always crashed
[19:51] <Saviq> ohkay
[19:54] <ltinkl> I think he crashed