[04:54] <magespawn> good morning
[04:59] <mazal> Morning magespawn
[04:59] <mazal> How goes ?
[05:06] <pavlushka> Good Morning!
[05:06] <mazal> Lo pavlushka
[05:07] <pavlushka> howdy mazal !
[05:11] <anton_may> mornings all
[05:13] <mazal> Morning anton_may
[05:20] <magespawn> good and you mazal?
[05:22] <mazal> Busy but ok thanx magespawn
[05:31] <magespawn> hi pavlushka anton_may 
[05:32] <pavlushka> Hi magespawn , how are you?
[05:32] <magespawn> all good, nice sunny day, and you/
[05:32] <magespawn> ?
[05:34] <pavlushka> can anybody help me with how to file a test case on this http://packages.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/milestones/361/builds/117794/testcases/1681/results ?
[05:35] <pavlushka> magespawn: I good as well, !
[05:35] <pavlushka> magespawn: thanks!
[05:38] <magespawn> pavlushka: have you completed your test?
[05:39] <pavlushka> magespawn: on going but already revealed the issues
[05:39] <magespawn> do you have an account on launchpad?
[05:40] <pavlushka> magespawn: if you just can confirm me which one to fill, critical bugs or just bugs for this case?
[05:40] <pavlushka> magespawn: yes, I have account in LP.
[05:40] <pavlushka> Hello Cryterion ! Morning!
[05:41] <Cryterion> Morning
[05:41] <magespawn> then you login, after login there is a place at the bottom to file the test results
[05:42] <pavlushka> magespawn: what's wrong with the given link?
[05:43] <paddatrapper> Morning everyone
[05:43] <magespawn> nothing that i can see, that is just the results page, to be able to submit you have to login on the right hand side
[05:43] <magespawn> hi Cryterion paddatrapper 
[05:45] <pavlushka> magespawn: I was already logged in while I asked, :)
[05:46] <magespawn> strange, when i log in the page changes, with the test report form is at the bottom of the page
[05:51] <pavlushka> magespawn: that's what I was asking about but figured already, thanks!
[05:52] <magespawn> ahh right, sorted then?
[05:55] <pavlushka> Cryterion: how are you?
[05:55] <pavlushka> your router issue solved?
[06:03] <theblazehen> morning all
[06:04] <theblazehen> International internet _still_ down at office :(
[06:06] <pavlushka> hello theblazehen !
[06:06] <theblazehen> hey pavlushka
[06:06] <pavlushka> theblazehen: Morning, How are you?
[06:06] <theblazehen> pavlushka: I'm alright and you?
[06:07] <pavlushka> theblazehen: I am alright, thanks!
[06:09] <thatgraemeguy> morning peoples
[06:11] <theblazehen> hi thatgraemeguy
[06:20] <theblazehen> Anyone here have issues reaching international sites? for example theblazehen.com, mirrors.theblazehen.com, en.wikipedia.org, archlinux.org
[06:21] <thatgraemeguy> nope, all working for me
[06:22] <theblazehen> http://pastebin.com/UANky9Sn <- traceroute
[06:22] <thatgraemeguy> http://pastebin.com/raw/nRgVfH1x <mine
[06:22] <theblazehen> Strange, I can also reach international from home
[06:23] <theblazehen> Currently using a ssh socks proxy to home, but no one in the office here has access to international internet..
[06:23] <thatgraemeguy> adsl?
[06:24] <theblazehen> Yeah, adsl I think
[06:24] <theblazehen> Let me see if I can do some kind of traceroute with tcp maybe..
[06:24] <thatgraemeguy> probably isp issue
[06:25] <theblazehen> Yeah
[06:25] <thatgraemeguy> my adsl dead, can't test with that :-/
[06:25] <paddatrapper> theblazehen: I had that issue last night. Imporved after a while though
[06:25] <theblazehen> "All Traffic will go over Wireless by Default.
[06:25] <theblazehen> High Priority Traffic will go over ADSL."  in our wiki. Not sure if icmp is classed as high priority
[06:25] <theblazehen> pavlushka: Hmm, okay
[06:25] <thatgraemeguy> are you not the network admin?
[06:26] <theblazehen> paddatrapper:  Before this I was getting ~60% packet loss, which gradually increased to 100
[06:26] <theblazehen> thatgraemeguy: Nah not me myself. I mostly work on other things
[06:27] <thatgraemeguy> ah, best you speak to the network admin then, sounds like they are doing weird stuff, nobody here is going to get close to being able to help
[06:27] <thatgraemeguy> used to work at a place that was forever trying to micromanage traffic over multiple ISPs, it was always a mess
[06:28] <theblazehen> thatgraemeguy: Yeah. Last hop in the traceroute is ~190 ms away, thought it's possible that it could be more than just our isp
[06:28] <theblazehen> thatgraemeguy: I'm thinking we might be doing VOIP and SSH over the ADSL, with http etc over wireless
[06:41] <magespawn> theblazehen: would the traffic be seperated by port? like 22 for ssh
[06:42] <theblazehen> magespawn: I'm seeing now, it looks like everything goes over our new fiber line, so will call tem
[06:42] <theblazehen> theM8
[06:42] <theblazehen> them*
[06:42] <theblazehen> hey Kilos
[06:42] <magespawn> ahh right, so likely an isp problem
[06:43] <magespawn> good morning Kilos 
[06:47] <Kilos> hi magespawn theblazehen inetpro anton_may thatgraemeguy paddatrapper and other lurkers
[06:47] <mazal> More oom
[06:47] <Kilos> hi mazal 
[06:48] <thatgraemeguy> morning
[06:51] <Kilos> sjoe
[06:51] <Kilos> you got fibre magespawn ?
[06:52] <magespawn> no not me, not yet anyway
[07:17] <Squirm> Morning
[07:23] <anton_may> lo Kilos
[07:26] <theblazehen> hey anton_may, Squirm
[07:26] <theblazehen> So udp works. Yay!
[07:26] <theblazehen> worst case just use my vpn
[07:28] <anton_may> lo theblazehen
[08:07] <Langjan> Nothing broke Kilos, any fresh news? 
[08:07] <Langjan> and hi all
[08:07] <theblazehen> hi Langjan
[08:08] <Langjan> hi theblazehen 
[08:09] <mazal> Môre oom Jan
[08:09] <mazal> Wat's stukkend ?
[08:09] <Langjan> nou doen jy dit...lmga!
[08:09] <mazal> hahahaha
[08:09] <Langjan> hoe gaan dit mazal 
[08:10] <mazal> Okerig en daar ?
[08:10] <Langjan> goed dankie, koelerig
[08:22] <Langjan> Chasing sheep Kilos ?
[08:30] <theblazehen> hey mazal
[08:31] <theblazehen> heh. 1.4 second lag to dedicated server hosting bouncer
[08:31] <theblazehen> Running everything to a socks proxy through ssh at home
[08:32] <theblazehen> 1 mbit - whatever speed the isp doesn't want to give me - whatever bandwidth ACKs take is my connection speed here
[08:32] <theblazehen> cpu on router is at 8% busy doing the encryption :)
[08:33] <mazal> Hi theblazehen
[08:44] <Kilos> hi Langjan 
[08:45] <Kilos> that and checking on moving and repairin fences
[08:45] <Kilos> now new yet otherwise, but so much work here
[08:47] <Kilos> cut fences are the  bane of my life
[08:47] <Kilos> and im happy you didnt break anything for a change
[08:47] <Kilos> hehe
[08:48] <Langjan> yes a change is as good as a holiday...ḟor Kilos 
[08:48] <Kilos> lol
[08:49] <Langjan> you doing ok Kilos ?
[08:49] <Kilos> yes ty
[08:49] <Langjan> good
[08:49] <Langjan> visa?
[08:49] <Kilos> just head doesnt like physical stuff
[08:49] <Kilos> hows things your side
[08:50] <Langjan> did you knock it?
[08:50] <Kilos> still with vaccu peeps
[08:50] <Langjan> fine thks just very dry
[08:50] <Kilos> no man inside not outside
[08:50] <Langjan> lmga, fine all sides, top and bottom also
[08:50] <Kilos> lol
[08:52] <Langjan> and with you?
[08:53] <Kilos> with me what?
[08:53] <Langjan> all the sides
[08:53] <Kilos> just my head hassles
[08:53] <Kilos> inside
[08:53] <Langjan> did you knock it or what?
[08:53] <Kilos> everything else is piekfyn
[08:53] <Kilos> man
[08:54] <Kilos> dont you even know
[08:54] <Langjan> headaches?
[08:54] <Langjan> know what?
[08:54] <Kilos> yes head was split open in 98 and where bones grew back together it has pinched all nerve endings
[08:55] <Langjan> permanent aches since then?
[08:55] <Kilos> so my headaches are 24/7 from sore to worse
[08:56] <Langjan> eish! must be terrible
[08:56] <Kilos> yes spent 5 years on workmans compensation synap forte 600mg 3 times a day and 20 grandpas
[08:57] <Kilos> then they went broke and i have lived without pain killers since then
[08:57] <Langjan> whew! Those things will wreak havoc elsewhere, just as well
[08:57] <Kilos> yes that too
[08:57] <Kilos> but im ok if i can sit by pc all day
[08:58] <Kilos> physical stuff aggravates it
[08:58] <Langjan> does it also help to sort of forget the pain?
[08:58] <Kilos> one actually gets used to the pain
[08:58] <mazal> That's interesting , I would think pc's screens would make headaches worse
[08:59] <Kilos> becomes part of life
[08:59] <Kilos> no things move slowly here
[08:59] <Langjan> but not pleasant at all...
[08:59] <Kilos> music videos make is worse
[08:59] <mazal> Fortunately oom don't do youtube
[08:59] <Kilos> fast movements on tv suck
[09:00] <Kilos> yeah mazal 
[09:00] <mazal> Youtube videos tend to make me seasick
[09:00] <mazal> I can never watch too many reviews all at once
[09:00] <Kilos> all the flashing images are painful to watch
[09:01] <Kilos> otherwise im fine
[09:01] <Kilos> hehe
[09:01] <Kilos> i can irc all day
[09:01] <mazal> My eyes get too tired of all the reading
[09:01] <Langjan> Kilos, I a fascinated, also perplexed by your comment that wipe and install on whole disk will not wipe windoze installation  
[09:01] <mazal> By 1pm I can feel my eyes are sore
[09:01] <Kilos> it will man Langjan 
[09:01] <Kilos> i was joking
[09:01] <Langjan> 1pm or 1 am?
[09:02] <mazal> 1pm
[09:02] <Kilos> then no more win hassles
[09:02] <mazal> Oom Langjan , I work in it so am in the screens since 6:30am
[09:02] <Langjan> Jy moenie sulke grappe maak nie, ek glo mos wat jy se man!
[09:02] <Kilos> skuus oom
[09:02] <Kilos> didnt i say hehe at the end
[09:03] <Langjan> lmga, maar ja ek sou dit probeer
[09:03] <Kilos> oh Langjan here is something you can do
[09:03] <Langjan> cant remember, maybe you did
[09:03] <Langjan> what?
[09:03] <Kilos> systemback
[09:03] <Kilos> mazal tell him
[09:03]  * mazal weier
[09:03] <Kilos> tell him pretty please
[09:04] <Langjan> wat nou?
[09:04] <Kilos> Langjan 
[09:04] <Langjan> ja Kilos ?
[09:04] <mazal> Langjan, systemback is an app that makes a live bootable iso of your current system as it is. When you re-install with it all your apps and even configs and updates are already there and don't need to be redone
[09:04] <Kilos> i have made a boorable iso with systemback i can plug in any pc and see exactly what i see here on this laptop
[09:05] <Langjan> sounds great
[09:05] <Kilos> wonderful tool
[09:05] <mazal> And yeah that too , can be used as a live system for troubleshooting purposes
[09:06] <Kilos> https://www.google.co.za/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=1&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0ahUKEwizsZPZk8_MAhULMz4KHfvVAAEQFggbMAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Fubuntuhandbook.org%2Findex.php%2F2014%2F07%2Finstall-backup-tool-systemback-1-0-ubuntu-14-04%2F&usg=AFQjCNFtsP_59kSDlw3L9QfSEnEP4mYdPw&sig2=2T9oheRfFteNHg96c3oj5g
[09:06] <Langjan> is it in the repos?
[09:06] <mazal> I broke my install last week Wednesday , re-installed with that , 30minutes and everything back the way it was
[09:06] <Kilos> go read
[09:06] <Langjan> oh ok
[09:06] <mazal> Just putting back actual data like docs , pics etc. that remains then
[09:06] <Langjan> So why refuse to tell mazal ?
[09:07] <mazal> Just lus to hassle Kilos oom :)
[09:07] <Langjan> ok so still need to backup pics and docs
[09:07] <Kilos>  van der merwe blood
[09:07] <mazal> Hassling Kilos is part of my contract
[09:07] <Langjan> lmga
[09:07] <Kilos> i actually have pics as well
[09:07] <mazal> Is payback for the fighting me about my games lol
[09:07] <Kilos> everything looks same
[09:07] <Kilos> haha
[09:08] <Langjan> what about vbox?
[09:08] <mazal> Oom Kilos , barry also started fighting me
[09:08] <Kilos> lol mooi
[09:08] <mazal> I merely suggested a trip to PTA yesterday and he was on my case :(
[09:08] <Kilos> i dont use vbox
[09:09] <Kilos> Langjan try it and see
[09:09] <mazal> Here comes trouble :P
[09:09] <Kilos> it has quite a few options i chose the live iso one
[09:10] <Kilos> lemme go work a while again
[09:10] <Langjan> Well I will have t decide if I must use backups as now or systemback or both?
[09:12] <Langjan> go well Kilos 
[09:13] <Kilos> ty you too
[09:13] <Langjan> thks
[09:16] <Langjan> bye for now mazal 
[09:16] <Kilos> Langjan 
[09:16] <Langjan> let me go break something
[09:16] <Langjan> hi Kilos 
[09:17] <Kilos> systemback can be used to install exactly what you have there on another pc
[09:17] <Kilos> should fit on an 8g stick
[09:18] <Kilos> but to have stuff backed up on another storage is always safe
[09:18] <mazal> Langjan,
[09:18] <mazal> Still here ?
[09:18] <Langjan> irrespective of size? Are you not limited to the sixe of the stick? Like my system is 80Gb 
[09:18] <Langjan> yes mazal 
[09:18] <mazal> Never replace your current backup , do that as well
[09:19] <Langjan> No I will keep that, thks
[09:19] <mazal> If one process fails you must have a fallback
[09:20] <Langjan> but how do you load 80 Gb on a 8 GB stick?
[09:20] <mazal> You can't
[09:20] <Kilos> make the iso and see what size it is
[09:20] <Langjan> ok will do thks
[09:21] <Kilos> mine was only 4.7g
[09:21] <Kilos> good luck
[09:21] <Kilos> wbb
[09:21] <mazal> I prefer not to let it transfer data as well
[09:21] <Kilos> Maaz watch them
[09:21] <Maaz> OK Kilos I'll keep an eye on them for you
[09:21] <mazal> My data I backup with normal backup procedures
[09:21] <mazal> I use systemback only for the system itself
[09:21] <Langjan> thks, makes sense
[09:22] <mazal> Then upon breakdown I install the system and copy my data back manually
[09:23] <mazal> That way it keeps the size of the iso low enough for in case you need to fit it on dvd. And data changes daily , if you do the trasfer data option then you must make a new iso every day
[09:23] <magespawn> mazal how often do you back up, daily?
[09:23] <mazal> magespawn, yes
[09:23] <mazal> Sometimes twice a day
[09:23] <mazal> Depends how much docs etc. changed
[09:24] <magespawn> how much data is it?
[09:24] <mazal> Is mostly docs and savegames that I backup daily
[09:24] <mazal> My /home folder and all in it
[09:24] <magespawn> in gigs approx how much?
[09:25] <mazal> Lemme check for you
[09:25] <mazal> 16gig here
[09:25] <mazal> My home machine will be much more though
[09:26] <magespawn> what do you prefer to back up to, and how many do you keep
[09:26] <Langjan> where do you see the size? 
[09:26] <mazal> I backup to a 2nd internal drive. That drive gets backed up to an external as well once a week. I keep one seperate backup for every day of the week
[09:27] <mazal> I have a auto cron one that runs to same folder , and 7 manual ones that I run manual each to their own destination folder
[09:27] <mazal> And all that once a week to an external
[09:28] <mazal> I'm paranoid , I know :)
[09:28] <mazal> Langjan, in file browser go up 1 level from your home. You should see your username as a folder , right-click that and choose properties
[09:29] <mazal> And the system iso I only do once a week
[09:29] <mazal> Just to get all updates and added apps in
[09:30] <Langjan> mazal, in "recent"
[09:30] <mazal> Langjan, nope
[09:30] <mazal> Open file broweser
[09:30] <mazal> You will be standing in your home
[09:30] <mazal> Go up 1 level
[09:30] <mazal> In the tree
[09:31] <mazal> Then you will see the user folders
[09:32] <Langjan> youve lost me maz
[09:32] <Langjan> mazal, 
[09:32] <magespawn> mazal i also understand, i also like to keep mine on different media like dvd/bluray/flash drive, and in the cloud and physically offsite
[09:33] <mazal> Physicall offsite is actually the real right way
[09:34] <magespawn> luckally i am not moving that much data that is critical
[09:36] <mazal> I once lost everything and since then I am a bit overkill when it comes to backups hehehehe
[10:32] <Squirm> Morning
[10:38] <mazal> Hi Squirm
[10:46] <mazal> kewl , I added a application menu entry for the first time ever :)
[10:46] <mazal> Installed baobab and was nowhere to be found in the menus so created one
[11:04] <mazal> maaz tell Kilos I did something new in K , but didn't break anything this time :)
[11:04] <Maaz> mazal: Okay, I'll tell Kilos on freenode
[11:18] <Kilos> what mazal 
[11:18] <Maaz> Kilos: By the way, mazal on freenode told me "tell Kilos I did something new in K , but didn't break anything this time :)" 13 minutes and 54 seconds ago
[11:21] <mazal> I added an application launcher entry for an app that wasn't listed there
[11:21] <mazal> First time I needed to do that
[11:21] <mazal> Kilos, ^^
[11:22] <Kilos> ah
[11:23] <mazal> maaz tell LangJan Too see a good breakup of folder sizes install the baobab app. To see just home type the command du -hs /home/username or other folder if needed
[11:23] <Maaz> mazal: Got it, I'll tell Langjan on freenode
[11:30] <Kilos> hi GnikLlort 
[11:30] <GnikLlort> oh hi :)
[11:31] <Kilos> hi Squirm long time no see
[11:32] <GnikLlort> my old laptop sorta died
[11:35] <Squirm> Kilos: Yeah, in and out
[11:35] <Squirm> Not really on irc much anymore
[11:35] <Kilos> oh my GnikLlort thats not good
[11:36] <GnikLlort> Kilos, got myself a new one tho :D
[11:36] <Kilos> cool
[11:39] <magespawn> GnikLlort: sort of died?
[11:39] <Kilos> lol
[11:39] <GnikLlort> cpu melted
[11:39] <Kilos> ouch
[11:39] <Kilos> how can that happen
[11:40] <GnikLlort> cpu fan died
[11:40] <magespawn> that will do it
[11:40] <GnikLlort> think a wire came loose then poof
[12:15] <magespawn> back
[12:15] <Kilos> wb
[12:15] <Kilos> what broke
[12:21] <chesedo> GnikLlort: was it running linux when this happened?
[12:22] <GnikLlort> yes, think I didnt get all the drivers tbh
[12:23] <chesedo> oh, cause from experience i've seen linux down stepping the cpu when it overheads (fan stops)
[12:23] <theblazehen> GnikLlort: The bios should have kept it running
[12:23] <theblazehen> Unless specifically told what to do (via fancontrol script etc) it should just run
[12:24] <GnikLlort> oh
[12:24] <chesedo> s/head/heat/
[12:24] <GnikLlort> but that laptop was old asf
[12:25] <theblazehen> GnikLlort: Still. I have a 16 year old desktop that manages fine..
[12:25] <theblazehen> 17 actually
[12:25] <GnikLlort> hmm
[12:25] <GnikLlort> then a wire must have failed
[12:26] <GnikLlort> broken or stuff
[12:26] <GnikLlort> when I took it to matrix thy said its cooked
[12:26] <GnikLlort> need to replace everything
[12:26]  * chesedo rolls eyes
[12:26] <GnikLlort> I then just got a new one
[12:34] <nlsthzn> *yawn* - hangover after night shift quick change ... sup all?
[12:35] <theblazehen> hey nlsthzn
[12:35] <chesedo> not much, just studies nlsthzn
[12:36] <chesedo> although chan has been busy today...
[12:36] <nlsthzn> chesedo: cool... keep it up.  
[12:36] <nlsthzn> hope all are well
[12:36]  * chesedo has nothing to do with chan business :P
[12:37] <nlsthzn> meant keep up the studies :p
[12:38] <magespawn> nlsthzn: do you have to work the day shift after a night shift, or do they give some down time in between?
[12:42] <nlsthzn> magespawn: nope, as we have 12 hour shifts it wouldn't be possible... and as our normal schedule runs we have 4 days off after our last night \o/
[12:42] <nlsthzn> still a bugger to switch over even when sitting at home.. in your pj's :p
[12:42] <GnikLlort> happy to know im not the only one with 12 hour shifts
[12:43] <magespawn> nlsthzn: yup it is, 12 hours is a bit on the long side
[12:44] <nlsthzn> 4 on 4 off, so the trade off is ok I guess
[12:44] <nlsthzn> 2 day 2 night
[12:44] <nlsthzn> GnikLlort: 12 hour shifts seem to becoming the norm
[12:44] <GnikLlort> im Monday to Friday off on weekends and Public Holliday's 
[12:44] <GnikLlort> ikr
[12:45] <chesedo> are you guys in security jobs or something?
[12:46] <nlsthzn> that is a lot of hours for your week GnikLlort
[12:46] <GnikLlort> yep :(
[12:46]  * nlsthzn is in the petrochemical industry
[12:46] <nlsthzn> process operator
[12:47] <GnikLlort> I´m in Security, Site Supervisor
[12:52] <nlsthzn> :) I also got promoted to sup a few months ago 
[12:54] <GnikLlort> niceee
[12:55] <GnikLlort> I was told to expect a promotion soon
[13:03] <nlsthzn> well with oil price I can actually expect to loose my job before getting another promotion >.<
[13:04] <theblazehen> ffs, I *really* hope that my server's connection issue is the same one making us not reach internationally
[13:04] <theblazehen> nlsthzn: Ouch :(
[13:04] <theblazehen> Someone mind doing a tracepath mirrors.theblazehen.com for me?
[13:06] <magespawn> okay
[13:06] <nlsthzn> on it
[13:06] <nlsthzn> working theblazehen
[13:06] <nlsthzn> want the output/
[13:06] <nlsthzn> ?
[13:10] <theblazehen> nlsthzn: Yeah, my connection is working. I want the final hops 
[13:10] <theblazehen> Yes please
[13:10] <magespawn> https://bin.snyman.info/mmm8pnxu
[13:10] <magespawn> theblazehen ^^
[13:10] <nlsthzn> wb
[13:11] <theblazehen_web> nlsthzn: Ty. Yes, I would like the output please
[13:11] <nlsthzn> sent but it seems you timed out :p
[13:11] <theblazehen_web> Want to see if any of the hops to it are on the same as our international route
[13:11] <magespawn> https://bin.snyman.info/mmm8pnxu
[13:11] <nlsthzn> I send again
[13:11] <theblazehen_web> yeah
[13:11] <theblazehen_web> ty
[13:11] <magespawn> theblazehen ^^
[13:11] <theblazehen_web> Works fine, then boom
[13:11] <nlsthzn> https://bin.snyman.info/mmmgjpx2
[13:12] <nlsthzn> in case the pm isn't working :p
[13:12] <theblazehen_web> got it ty
[13:12] <theblazehen_web> That looks fine
[13:12] <theblazehen_web> Let me ssh in maybe..
[13:12] <theblazehen_web> if ssh works
[13:13] <theblazehen_web> I got ssh running over udp earlier today :)
[13:13] <theblazehen_web> I could do basic shell stuff, open vim etc. Scp and so on fails though, even with a lowered mtu
[13:14] <theblazehen_web> ssh login is really slow..
[13:15] <magespawn> https://bin.snyman.info/mmm2ahte
[13:15] <magespawn> the first one was traceroute
[13:15] <theblazehen_web> Thanks magespawn
[13:16] <magespawn> np did not actually know about tracepath
[13:16] <theblazehen_web> tcp is amazing..
[13:16] <theblazehen_web> Almost managed to log in with ssh with 87-90% packet loss
[13:17] <theblazehen_web> whoops, 96
[13:17] <magespawn> wow something is not right
[13:17] <theblazehen_web> It's on the last hop for me
[13:17] <theblazehen_web> 2nd last hop dropping only 1.2%
[13:17] <theblazehen_web> Hosting provider seems to have lost my account too..
[13:18] <theblazehen_web> Will see if billing dept also lost account in a weeks time :)
[13:18] <theblazehen_web> `639 packets transmitted, 26 received, 95% packet loss, time 8683ms`
[13:18] <magespawn> mtr shows lose on the last point
[13:19] <theblazehen_web> yeah. Ty. Any ideas why it's so intermittent?
[13:19]  * theblazehen_web should set up smokeping again
[13:19]  * theblazehen_web is going to see if another server with a gigabit connection can fight against 96% packet loss
[13:21] <magespawn> these are my stats for ping
[13:21] <magespawn> 55 packets transmitted, 2 received, 96% packet loss, time 53999ms
[13:21] <magespawn> rtt min/avg/max/mdev = 243.210/248.658/254.106/5.448 ms
[13:21] <theblazehen_web> ty, also 95% here
[13:21] <theblazehen_web> ssh is getting there :)
[13:21] <theblazehen_web> debug1: Remote protocol version 2.0, remote software version OpenSSH_6.6.1p1 Ubuntu-2ubuntu2.4
[13:21] <theblazehen_web> debug1: match: OpenSSH_6.6.1p1 Ubuntu-2ubuntu2.4 pat OpenSSH_6.6.1* compat 0x04000000
[13:21] <theblazehen_web> debug2: fd 3 setting O_NONBLOCK
[13:21] <theblazehen_web> debug1: SSH2_MSG_KEXINIT sent
[13:22] <magespawn> shared hosting?
[13:22] <theblazehen_web> Nope, dedicated
[13:22] <theblazehen_web> 500mbit dedicated bandwidth, burst to 1 gbit
[13:22] <theblazehen_web> 2x2 TB storage, 8 GB RAM, not too bad cpu..
[13:22] <theblazehen_web> $80 / month
[13:22] <magespawn> maybe their network is under dos or something
[13:22] <theblazehen_web> Unmetered bandwidth
[13:22] <theblazehen_web> Possible
[13:23] <theblazehen_web> http://www.us.unmetered.com/ this was them
[13:25] <theblazehen_web> I wonder if I have an IPv6 address. Might take an alternative route
[13:25]  * theblazehen_web just needs ssh to check..
[13:26]  * theblazehen_web thinks ssh is going through! :)
[13:26] <theblazehen_web> Down to 93%
[13:37] <theblazehen_web> Oh. Missed my chance to connect there :(
[13:37] <theblazehen_web> hey Na3iL
[13:37] <Na3iL> Hey theblazehen_web :)
[13:37] <theblazehen_web> while:; ssh root@mirrors.theblazehen.com; done
[13:37] <theblazehen_web> heh :(
[13:55] <theblazehen_web> I bet my idlerpg stats are going way down :(
[14:06] <theblazehen_web> Damn, I jinxed it
[14:06] <theblazehen_web> Froze when I said "Wow, perfect now. Looks like it alternates between 0 and >90% packet loss
[14:08] <theblazehen_web> Now a "more reasonable" 90%
[14:16] <theblazehen_web> I wish services would just *try harder* when there is packet loss :( I'm sure if freenode send 1 ping / second, I would probably respond to at least 3 or four of them
[14:42] <urbanslug> theblazehen_web: You ssh into root?
[14:42] <urbanslug> You crazy!
[14:42] <urbanslug> Life on the edge!
[14:43] <theblazehen_web> @urbanslug it doesn't run anything important
[14:43] <theblazehen_web> Most important is probably my irc bouncer
[14:47] <theblazehen_web> It's actually a pity. Pay for 500mbit symetrical, but max usage with my tor node is only 70 - 130 mbit / s
[15:09] <Kilos> keep chatting i need to go soak inna hot bath
[15:10] <gremble> Have fun with that Kilos 
[15:11] <paddatrapper> That sounds nice...
[16:05] <Kilos> that was so lekker
[16:05] <Kilos> soaked like a sponge
[16:08] <magespawn_out> hey Kilos 
[16:08] <Kilos> hi magespawn_out 
[16:08] <magespawn_out> i left the laptop on an logged in so no magespawn tonight
[16:11] <Kilos> ai! ty for letting us know
[16:14] <magespawn_out> just forgot to log out of chat, that all
[16:20] <mazal> Oi now I am lekka conflicted
[16:23] <magespawn_out> whats wrong now mazal?
[16:24] <mazal> magespawn_out, I have a good problem to have. I finally added minetest to this install , now I kinda want to start a new world in that , but at same time want to finish my subway project in minecraft world :P
[16:25] <magespawn_out> do both
[16:25] <mazal> Too many choices too little time
[16:25] <mazal> I agree , do both :)
[16:28] <Kilos> lol
[16:28] <Kilos> crazy gamers
[16:44] <paddatrapper> One keyboard for each! Who needs a mouse??
[16:44] <Kilos> lol
[16:44] <Kilos> mouse works lekker in minetest
[16:50] <mazal> They seriously need to add the ability of making charcoal from wood
[16:51] <Kilos> #ubuntu-community-team
[16:51] <Kilos> ai!
[16:51] <magespawn_out> ai? now what?
[17:00] <Kilos> supper time here wbb
[17:29] <Kilos> ohi superfly 
[17:29] <superfly> hi Kilos
[17:50] <paddatrapper> Gah why do people have to use Windows... Trying to package software for it is a nightmare!!
[17:50] <Kilos> eish
[17:50] <Kilos> thats not even worth an ai!
[17:54] <paddatrapper> And to make it worse python is not friendly to distributing anyway
[18:24] <superfly> paddatrapper: are you using PyInstaller?
[18:24] <paddatrapper> superfly: No...?
[18:25] <superfly> paddatrapper: You want to.
[18:25] <paddatrapper> Looking it up now
[18:25] <paddatrapper> Thank you!!!!!!
[18:25] <superfly> :-D
[18:26] <Kilos> oh my paddatrapper dont you know the fly is the python pro here
[18:26] <superfly> pyinstaller --onefile --windowed --icon <path to ico file> --name <MyAppName> <my-app-script.py>
[18:27] <paddatrapper> I was trying using a very convoluted way with a standalone python install and installing the libraries...
[18:27] <Kilos> we have 2 python experts but one blows around the world like a tumbleweed 
[18:28] <superfly> paddatrapper: I even build Windows binaries in WINE with PyInstaller :-)
[18:28] <paddatrapper> Kilos: Haha
[18:28] <paddatrapper> Nice. even better if I can do it under linux
[18:29] <superfly> test it out, but you should be able to
[18:30] <paddatrapper> Thanks. Will do
[18:30] <superfly> don't forget to install pywin32
[18:30] <superfly> paddatrapper: and you'll want this: http://www.lfd.uci.edu/~gohlke/pythonlibs/
[18:36] <paddatrapper> Is there some documentation about what do do after downloading it on Windows? And installing it on Linux
[18:37] <superfly> paddatrapper: PyInstaller?
[18:37] <paddatrapper> Yeah
[18:37] <superfly> paddatrapper: oh, and pip install it... the version on their website is not the latest version
[18:37] <paddatrapper> The Github wiki is rather sparse
[18:37] <superfly> http://pythonhosted.org/PyInstaller/
[18:39] <paddatrapper> Thanks. Sorry for the stupid questions, but seeing as I don't really want to try fight with wine tonight, would I install it using pip on windows and run it from the CLI?
[18:40] <superfly> yup
[18:40] <paddatrapper> Also how does it deal with multiple files (3 scripts and 1 resource)?
[18:41] <superfly> How do you mean?
[18:42] <paddatrapper> My application consists of 3 scripts - (run, ui, lib) and a config file. How would I combine so that it becomes a exe and a config file
[18:42] <paddatrapper> ?
[18:43] <paddatrapper> For reference: https://github.com/paddatrapper/top30
[18:43] <superfly> As I mentioned earlier. Run PyInstaller, it'll package everything into an exe, add your config file and go 
[18:44] <paddatrapper> Ok. Will give it a spin and shout if I get stuck
[18:45] <superfly> paddatrapper: we're packaging OpenLP with it, and that's a bigger app than your script ;-) 
[18:46] <paddatrapper> Good to know! Lol
[18:57] <Kilos> good luck paddatrapper 
[18:57] <Kilos> night all. sleep tight
[19:21] <mazal> Night everyone , sleep well
[19:21] <paddatrapper> night mazal
[22:08] <theblazehen> Well, haven't had any packet loss since earlier.
[22:09] <theblazehen> I know it's impossible, but it almost seems like the bad office internet gets transfered through my proxy to home and affecting my dedicated server on the end.. After all, issues only happen when I'm at the office