[00:02] <nacc> everson: is it possible when run as root, it's using root's home directory to search for profiles (I assume gnome-terminal must save them somewhere in ~)
[00:02] <nacc> everson: also, why are you running gnome-terminal as root?
[00:02] <squinty> django_, first is Windows using the whole hard drive?  If yes, you will need to shrink it first before installing.  re along side or something else, it depends on how you want to set it up.  Using "something else allows the user to set the partitions and their sizes etc according to their personal preferences.  If not worried about that, then use "install along side"
[00:03] <django_> errr afk
[00:09] <explodes> "fsck" starts up in a black screen on boot, and stays there forever (2 days last time i was patient)
[00:10] <explodes> I need to do a fresh install anyway, it's been a few years
[00:12] <at54tl> Good evening
[00:12] <thehippie> explodes: What version are you booting into?
[00:12] <explodes> 15.04 i believe
[00:12] <explodes> maybe 15.10
[00:13] <at54tl> I would like help setting up an Apache https server please.
[00:13] <squinty> 15.04 is eol
[00:13] <explodes> I'm still going to do a fresh install, but last time I had problems with unetbootin and UEFI - I forget what I had to do in my BIOS to get it to start up correctly
[00:13] <chris__w> I wish you could go from 15.04 to 16.04. Two upgrades is just sooo time consuming
[00:14] <at54tl> can anyone help me please?
[00:14] <squinty> !lamp | at54tl
[00:16] <at54tl> I have set up LAMP but for some reason I can't access https externally only internally
[00:16] <at54tl> any advice?
[00:17] <nacc> chris__w: well, the idea is if you chose to be on 15.04, you should have upgraded to 15.10 some time ago
[00:17] <nacc> chris__w: that's the idea behind hte development releases, at least
[00:17] <chris__w> nacc: Yeah, I was lazy. I paid the price for it
[00:17] <nacc> chris__w: :) (or maybe :/)
[00:19] <at54tl> my website is https://www.lpsys.net
[00:19] <at54tl> Port 80 and 443 has been opened
[00:20] <at54tl> but I can't access https
[00:21] <andy__> hello
[00:22] <at54tl> I need help with my Ubuntu Lamp
[00:22] <at54tl> hi
[00:22] <nacc> !patience | at54tl
[00:23] <nacc> at54tl: can you access it locally? (like on the server directly)
[00:24] <explodes> omg
[00:24] <at54tl> yes I can access it locally
[00:24] <at54tl> :)
[00:24] <at54tl> but not externally
[00:25] <nacc> at54tl: is your webserver listening on the public IP on the appropriate port (`netstat -pan` as root will tell you)
[00:26] <at54tl> It's port forswarded through my router.
[00:26] <nacc> at54tl: do you see the https request at all?
[00:27] <thehippie> at54tl: Ports are open through the router and no firewall running right?
[00:28] <at54tl> yes no firewall port is opened through the router
[00:31] <thehippie> at54tl: Run "telnet localhost 443"
[00:31] <thehippie> at54tl: If telnet connects, then run "iptables -L -n"
[00:33] <at54tl> ok
[00:33] <at54tl> iptables v1.4.21: can't initialize iptables table `filter': Permission denied
[00:34] <nacc> probably need sudo
[00:35] <at54tl> http://paste.ubuntu.com/16330448/
[00:35] <at54tl> I pasted the output
[00:36] <explodes> nice - two drives have failed, that's why i'm having a hard time
[00:36] <explodes> could this be an indication of a mobo failure?
[00:36] <at54tl> any thoughts?
[00:37] <squinty> explodes,   run Disks and see Smart data to make sure your disks are failing
[00:37] <thehippie> at54tl: It looks fine to me. What is the web server provider? They might have a secondary firewall built in.
[00:37] <explodes> squinty: one is failing by Smart
[00:38] <at54tl> I run it at home
[00:38] <explodes> the other is no longer recognized as a disk
[00:39] <at54tl> so what can I do?
[00:39] <OerHeks> explodes, could be mobo/controller, or powersupply or just the drives
[00:39] <squinty> explodes:  usually just a case of hardware failure, afaik.  can't really recall any situations where motherboard would cause such failures but others milage might vary on that topic
[00:40] <explodes> For my new boot disk, I should dd to /dev/sdb not /dev/sdb1, right?
[00:40] <squinty> right
[00:40] <explodes> Why is unetbootin even recommended
[00:40] <at54tl> hello?
[00:41] <squinty> explodes:  works for me  :-)
[00:41] <thehippie> at54tl: I'm thinking, running out of ideas
[00:41] <explodes> squinty: do you have UEFI?
[00:41] <at54tl> ok thanks
[00:42] <squinty> explodes, no  :P
[00:45] <thehippie> at54tl: Honestly, if it isn't a firewall issue then probably something in your httpd-ssl.conf
[00:46] <at54tl> ok
[00:46] <thehippie> Do you have Listen 443 in there?
[00:47] <at54tl> yes
[00:48] <thehippie> Do you get an error at all?
[00:49] <at54tl> http://paste.ubuntu.com/16330896/
[00:49] <at54tl> there it is
[00:50] <thehippie> at54tl: Set your error log to "debug" level. And see if you get an error that can narrow this down.
[00:50] <at54tl> where to do I do that?
[00:51] <thehippie> at54tl: http://paste.ubuntu.com/16331001/
[00:53] <thehippie> at54tl: Restart Apache once you set the error level
[00:53] <at54tl> I put those entries in ports.conf ?
[00:56] <thehippie> at54tl: sudo nano /etc/apache2/apache2.conf
[00:57] <thehippie> Look through that file, should have a LogLevel section
[00:58] <thehippie> The default is "warn" i believe
[01:02] <at54tl> ok I have put in the debug statements
[01:03] <thehippie> Errors are good. Give us an idea where we need to look
[01:06] <at54tl> <IFModule mod_ssl.c>
[01:06] <at54tl>    ErrorLog /var/log/apache2/ssl_engine.log
[01:06] <at54tl>    LogLevel debug
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[01:08] <amitab> Installed 16.04 on my NuC 5i5RYK and getting weird screen tearing every so often
[01:08] <amitab> Intel HD 6000 I believe is the integrated graphics
[01:08] <azizLIGHT> holy crap how do u turn off the screen reader?!
[01:09] <azizLIGHT> how do i turn off orca screen reader please
[01:10] <azizLIGHT> its reading everything and theres no dialog box for it to shut it off
[01:10] <thehippie> haha top right of the desktop
[01:10] <azizLIGHT> thehippie: i dont see anything there related to orca?
[01:10] <thehippie> to remove forever, go to Start>Search "Orca Screen reader">Right-click> Uninstall
[01:11] <squinty> azizLIGHT,  Orca can be enabled and disabled using the Alt + Super + S keyboard shortcut. Orca can also be enabled and disabled using the same shortcut key at the login screen. The super key is also known as the Windows key.   https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Accessibility
[01:11] <thehippie> ^
[01:11] <azizLIGHT> phew, i have default key binding on that one
[01:11] <azizLIGHT> omg no i dont
[01:11] <azizLIGHT> hes still reading
[01:11] <squinty> lol
[01:11] <thehippie> LOL
[01:11] <squinty> panic time!! :P
[01:11] <azizLIGHT> ahaha this is too funny
[01:12] <azizLIGHT> wow hes reading my unity panel stuff now
[01:12] <azizLIGHT> 43 degrees CPU
[01:12] <thehippie> jeeezzz
[01:14] <azizLIGHT> "screen reader off" wow
[01:14] <azizLIGHT> i did it
[01:14] <thehippie> Congratz
[01:14] <azizLIGHT> that was interesting haha
[01:16] <administrador> ello. I am using ubuntu 14.04. Why all of a sudden I can't access my HDDs? I can see them on /media/myname/ but for some reason I need to be root
[01:17] <wymillerlinux> Switch root's password: sudo su -, passwd
[01:18] <wymillerlinux> administrador: I don't know why you see your hard disks tho...
[01:18] <administrador> wymillerlinux, Is that gonna make my HDDs visible?
[01:19] <wymillerlinux> if your the root user, i think so
[01:19] <Bashing-om> administrador: What file systems and who owns the mount points ?
[01:19] <administrador> wymillerlinux, but I dont want to open them as root, I have files that need to be accessed by other programs
[01:21] <administrador> Bashing-om, one of them is ext4 and the other one is fat32 or NTFS
[01:21] <administrador> Bashing-om, I don't know who own the mounting points
[01:21] <wymillerlinux> administrador: good point, you can always open programs as root with 'sudo myprogram' with myprogram being the program you need to be running
[01:22] <wymillerlinux> but you probs don't want to do that lol
[01:22] <administrador> No, I don't know what happened, probably a program I installed, I dunno
[01:23] <administrador> you think I could just chmod 777 to the HDD?
[01:23] <Bashing-om> administrador: Are the hard drives .. internal ..or external ? what returuns ' ls -al /media/<username)/<device> ?
[01:24] <wymillerlinux> administrador: sure, or you could 755 your drives if only you want access to your drives
[01:25] <Bashing-om> administrador: fat and NTFS are not POSUX complient .. chmod no workie .
[01:25] <administrador> Bashing-om, drwx------  2 root root 4096 may  9 18:12 Arte
[01:25] <administrador> and I can't see the other one
[01:26] <administrador> I can't even open disks app
[01:27] <Bashing-om> administrador: Internal drives ? such that the mount is established in the /etc/fstab file ?
[01:28] <administrador> Bashing-om, They are internal, but I do not know anything about /etc/fstab thing...
[01:28] <administrador> there is nothing in /etc/fstab.d file
[01:29] <wymillerlinux> administrador: personally, i'd check the power and the data (IDE/SATA) cables are plugged in and the bios to make sure your drives are there
[01:29] <Bashing-om> administrador: ' cat /etc/fstab | nc termbin.com 9999 ' . Pass the link back here and we see how they are mounted .
[01:30] <explodes> administrador: did you reboot already to see if something switched? if you're in terminal, are a different user?
[01:30] <explodes> oh, root:root, huh
[01:31] <administrador> http://termbin.com/88mk
[01:31] <wymillerlinux> Bashing-om: gnome disks should see the disks, right? said disks don't have to be mentioned in /etc/fstab do they??
[01:31] <administrador> explodes, same user.
[01:32] <explodes> inb4 i just nuked all my backup drives
[01:33] <wymillerlinux> the drives, it's not even there. only your install drive and your swap...
[01:34] <Bashing-om> administrador: There is no provision in fstab to mount the "internal" hard druves .. do they exist to the system ' sudo fdisk -lu ' . To know what we are working with .
[01:35] <Bashing-om> administrador: Correct in that the file manager should be aware of them .
[01:36] <administrador> http://pastebin.com/5n9nYGTE
[01:37] <explodes> what is the name of 16.04?
[01:37] <explodes> i.e. trusty
[01:37] <administrador> I use Lubuntu 14.04 64bits
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[01:37] <explodes> Xenial Xyrus???
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[01:38] <wymillerlinux> explodes: something like that, i'd double check on that spelling lol
[01:39] <explodes> that name is ridiculous
[01:39] <explodes> I like it..
[01:44] <wymillerlinux> explodes: right?!
[01:50] <administrador> Fixed
[01:50] <administrador> I ust had to reboot.
[01:50] <administrador> Talk about stability :/
[01:52] <OerHeks>  
[01:52] <Bashing-om> administrador: Good deal . I guess the GVFS system got confused .
[01:52] <OerHeks> administrador, if this happens again, do a memtest86 run
[01:53] <explodes> uhh wtf.
[01:53] <explodes> How do I restore my the default ubuntu backup system??
[01:53] <OerHeks> explodes, no need for that language
[01:55] <phukboi> anybody else had issues with the google chrome .deb on 16.04?
[01:55] <phukboi> i can't get it to install with either software center or dpkg
[01:55] <HackerII> why would anyone answer to a nick like that
[01:56] <phukboi> herro?
[01:57] <explodes> The "Backup" program has no "restore" option, am I correct?
[01:57] <eniacpx> Is it possible to remove all the crazy DNS management and revert back to good old resolv.conf?
[01:58] <phukboi> nvm the dependency is all fucked up
[01:59] <OerHeks> phukboi,  no need for that language here
[01:59] <phukboi> OerHeks: calm down
[01:59] <phukboi> don't get all excited
[02:00] <wymillerlinux> phukboi: i use gdebi, way better than dpkg
[02:00] <OerHeks> phukboi, follow the channel rules, and you'll be fine, don't talk to me like that.
[02:01] <wymillerlinux> phukboi: gdebi installs local packages and finds dependencies for said package
[02:01] <lsblk> Why isn't my ssh server logging files anymore? My log file got too large, so I deleted it, recreated auth.log to start over... and yet it isn't logging and I don't know why.
[02:02] <phukboi> thanks wymillerlinux
[02:02] <phukboi> people are too excitable in here
[02:02]  * _exploit0 sleepy
[02:03] <_exploit0> mode _exploit0 +x
[02:03] <wymillerlinux> phukboi: anytime, behave yourself, alright?
[02:04] <mcc> Hello… I have an ubuntu box which is about a thousand years old and has been through multiple dist-upgrades
[02:05] <_exploit0> ?
[02:05] <mcc> I find if I say `sudo apt-get install python-virtualenv`it says `Package python-virtualenv is not available, but is referred to by another package.`
[02:06] <mcc> If I search google for what to do, they say to run `sudo add-apt-repository universe` … if i do this it says `add-apt-repository: command not found`
[02:07] <OerHeks> mcc uncomment it in sources.list, or in the updatetool> sources
[02:09] <mcc> there is not such a line in my /etc/apt/sources.list
[02:09] <mcc> what's updatetool
[02:11] <OerHeks> not sure what version you are using, but there should be a line like deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ <version> universe
[02:11] <OerHeks> or type sources in dash, and the update tool should show up
[02:15] <Rhorse> mcc: when's the last time you updated that box?
[02:15] <mcc> i figured it out thanks
[02:15] <mcc> rhorse: 14.04
[02:17] <Rhorse> mcc: frequent updates are the key, I've found
[02:17] <Rhorse> weekly updates
[02:18] <mcc> oh
[02:18] <mcc> i do apt-get upgrade regularly, i just mean i haven't dist-upgraded since 14.04
[02:18] <SonikkuAmerica> !dist-upgrade | mcc
[02:19] <SonikkuAmerica> it's also called [ apt full-upgrade ] now
[02:19] <mcc> ok
[02:21] <Rhorse> The newest versions of swc are good at reminding when updates are available. Still, a nightly cron job is probably the safe choice.
[02:35] <django_> Hey
[02:37] <django_> I'm installing Ubuntu and want dual boot with Windows
[02:37] <django_> So I click something else, then what
[02:38] <rock> Something else?
[02:38] <thehippie1> then "sudo shutdown"
[02:38] <OerHeks> django_, the answer that has been given, first make space on windows, then install alongside
[02:39] <rock> Once i had chosen to install on entire disk and i loosed the window disk..:(
[02:39] <django_> OerHeks: how do I make space for Windows?
[02:39] <django_> Err on Windows
[02:39] <rock> Go to disk management and allocate some free space for ubuntu
[02:39] <OerHeks> in windows, diskmanagment. select the disk, and you can shrink it.
[02:40] <OerHeks> it calculates the max too, very handy
[02:40] <rock> OerHeks provide him some link
[02:40] <django_> Ok
[02:42] <OerHeks> !install
[02:42] <OerHeks> tons of that stuff, easy to find
[02:43] <phukboi> d
[02:45] <rock> Django_  which system you are using?
[02:45] <django_> Rock w8
[02:46] <rock> Sorry i meant company name?
[02:47] <django_> Toshiba
[02:48] <rock> Ok then go for dual boot
[02:48] <rock> It will be easy
[02:48] <wyoung> Nah don
[02:48] <django_> Rock thank the lord!!!
[02:48] <wyoung> 't
[02:50] <wyoung> Dual boot is the worst, just install Linux and run windows in a VM if you need
[02:50] <rock> Wyoung i am using since years
[02:51] <wyoung> you are using what?
[02:51] <rock> Dual boot
[02:51] <wyoung> nah it is the worst
[02:51] <rock> Ok..but i found it useful
[02:52] <django_> https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/VnYB9ooV/
[02:52] <django_> how is that for the windos partition
[02:52] <wyoung> rock: using VMs is the best
[02:52] <wymillerlinux> wyoung: depends on what you use each os for
[02:53] <django_> rock is tht correct?
[02:53] <wyoung> wymillerlinux: There are use cases where VMs is not appropriate?
[02:54] <django_> is unallocated correct??
[02:54] <reisio> wyoung: there's basically no case where a VM _is_ appropriate
[02:55] <wyoung> reisio: really?
[02:55] <wymillerlinux> wyoung: yeah but it's controversial
[02:55] <reisio> wyoung: why would you seek out overhead
[02:55] <django_> ok i gues its right
[02:56] <wyoung> reisio: negligable when you weigh up the advantages
[02:56] <wymillerlinux> wyoung: personally, i'd use a VM
[02:57] <reisio> wyoung: you may be confusing sticking your head in the sand and repeating "short term gratification is better than long term efficiency" with an advantage
[02:57] <wymillerlinux> reisio: true
[02:58] <wyoung> reisio: I call automatic failover of a VM to another physical machine an advantage
[02:58] <reisio> also, that only works in magical scenarios where it _does_ work in the short term, and you don't invest time and effort debugging hardware virtualization
[02:58] <reisio> wyoung: that is not unique to hardware virtualization
[02:58] <reisio> at all
[02:59] <wyoung> reisio: the ability to jungle VMs between machines is also great when you need to service physical hardware
[02:59] <reisio> wyoung: how's that matter if you have the failover you just spoke about?
[02:59] <reisio> (answer: it doesn't)
[02:59] <wyoung> reisio: that was the failover I was just talking about
[02:59] <wyoung> another example of its use
[03:00] <reisio> that isn't failover, that's moving stuff after it's failed :p
[03:00] <reisio> you can move metal installs just as simply
[03:00] <Rhorse> How much memory you need for smooth function in VM?
[03:00] <reisio> Rhorse: depends on the host & guest, but not much, really
[03:00] <reisio> particularly since, as previously alluded to, when using hardware virtualization, people expect it to have crappy performance
[03:01] <wyoung> Rhorse: depends, you can do full blown virtualisation or paravirtualisation
[03:01] <reisio> because it will unavoidably be less performant
[03:01] <Rhorse> I see
[03:02] <wyoung> Rhorse: very little overhead though
[03:02] <wyoung> Rhorse: but compared with the advantages it's nothing
[03:02] <Rhorse> wyoung: and you install Windows into VM how..?
[03:02] <booh> I update my 12.04.03 with dist-upgrade and grub-install give me error failed to get canonical path. Also, with df -hm I have /dev/disk/by-uid/e234324-ac3234324.. instead of /dev/md0
[03:03] <booh> I didn't reboot.. I wait to be sure..
[03:03] <wymillerlinux> Rhorse: if you're thinking of running a terminal server, it REALLY doesn't take much, less than one gig of ram
[03:03] <django_> Ok I made a partition now how do I install Ubuntu
[03:04] <booh> Update-grub or grub-install give me this error.  Normaly I do grub-install /dev/sdc2 and /dev/sdd2 before rebooting.. never had problems.
[03:04] <django_> I made the usb and booter into Ubuntu
[03:04] <reisio> Rhorse: it's pretty transparent most of the time, just tell your VM to boot the install media
[03:04] <Rhorse> wymillerlinux: thinking more of a place to run the occasional windows app...PokerStars...photoshop, etc..
[03:04] <munch_28> Can anyone help me with finding Wine directory so I can modify a file for wow?
[03:05] <wyoung> Rhorse: boot off a boot disc within the VM
[03:05] <wymillerlinux> Rhorse: Gotcha. In that case, follow reisio instructions
[03:05] <wyoung> Rhorse: or use an existing image
[03:05] <Rhorse> I see
[03:06] <drama> munch_28,  how did you install wine
[03:06] <wyoung> munch_28: ~/.wine
[03:06] <Rhorse> So, the boot is virtual as well. Cool...
[03:06] <wyoung> generally
[03:06] <wyoung> Rhorse: of course :)
[03:06] <wymillerlinux> munch_28: press ctrl + h to reveal the hidden files and folders and you should find a .wine folder in your home directory
[03:07] <munch_28> wymillerlinux: Thanks
[03:07] <munch_28> wyoung: Thank you as well
[03:07] <munch_28> drama: PPA for newest one
[03:08] <munch_28> Ubuntu Software Center for the older version
[03:08] <django_> https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/9FjfLhwm/1462849693.JPG
[03:08] <munch_28> But I think a duplicate WTF file exist which is causing an issue, and it isn't by default "running out of the box" like I was told it would because it's trying to use DX11
[03:08] <drama> munch_28, ls -a    - do you have a .wine directory?
[03:09] <munch_28> drama: I see it via terminal that way, but not by ctrl+h in the GUI File "Explorer"
[03:10] <wyoung> munch_28: Nautalus
[03:11] <django_> will someone help??
[03:11] <wyoung> munch_28: make sure you have keyboard focus on it too
[03:11] <munch_28> wyoung: right, well it 's still not showing, despite other things that were originally hidden being shown after hitting ctrl+h
[03:12] <wyoung> hmmmm
[03:12] <wymillerlinux> django_: i'll help you one sec
[03:12] <drama> munch_28, look in that 'folder'
[03:12] <munch_28> ok, so what book should I read to know how to work this OS? I feel like I'm completely lost
[03:12] <munch_28> drama: look in what folder?
[03:13] <wyoung> munch_28: any book about linux if you want to know how to use the command line interface.
[03:14] <wyoung> munch_28: but you probably want to look into wine specifically as that is the application you want to know where it is storing its files
[03:14] <wyoung> munch_28: that isn't related to the OS specificallu
[03:14] <jmario> I dont like wine,   I prefer some alternatives softwares!
[03:14] <reisio> I prefer switching to superior open source software, so I don't ever have to switch again
[03:15] <wyoung> jmario: so do I, I prefer to use a Windows VM
[03:15] <munch_28> wyoung: I keep hearing that as an alternative....
[03:15] <wyoung> reisio: Sounds like make believe
[03:15] <munch_28> Is wine really that bad?
[03:15] <django_> https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/Dmoy6LCa/1462850125.JPG
[03:15] <reisio> wyoung: it's more like what I did in 2005
[03:16] <wyoung> munch_28: depends what you want to do.  For gaming I use wine.  For office apps I use a VM
[03:16] <reisio> munch_28: no, Wine is actually a much better implementation of win32 than Windows
[03:16] <wymillerlinux> django_: sorry that took a while lol, that looks about right
[03:16] <reisio> it's merely less ideal than native, & open source
[03:16] <django_> wymillerlinux: do I just hit ok?
[03:16] <munch_28> And I asked if I need to read a book about the OS because issues like me not being able to get into the Program Files (x86) folder is kinda holding me up to do something that should be simple but I feel like I'm missing some little bit of info
[03:16] <wymillerlinux> django_: yeah
[03:17] <django_> Ok
[03:17] <wyoung> munch_28: that has nothing to do with the OS though
[03:17] <munch_28> wyoung: No?
[03:17] <wyoung> munch_28: It is an application you are running within it
[03:17] <wymillerlinux> django_: if you have the free space selected
[03:17] <django_> wymillerlinux: no root file system is defined
[03:17] <booh> I dist-upgrade my 12.04 and I have: grub-install error: failed to get canonical path of with uid here instead of /dev/md0 or /dev/sdc2  don't know what to do... I affraid to reboot...
[03:17] <wyoung> munch_28: well do a search for it then, find / -type d -iname '*program*files*'
[03:17] <django_> https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/EDn2zjHc/1462850272.JPG
[03:18] <munch_28> wyoung: Well, for instance, using another one (downloaded dolphin) still gave me issues because despite resolving switching the default, using applications will still bring up the default
[03:18] <munch_28> Natilus? you said?
[03:18] <wyoung> munch_28: that is the name of the file manager
[03:18] <wyoung> munch_28: type that in a terminal what I pasted above
[03:18] <wyoung> munch_28: you can use nautalus to search if you want to
[03:19] <reisio> s/nautalus/nautilus/
[03:19] <wyoung> munch_28: I find it quicker to use the keyboard then constantly switching to the mouse
[03:19] <reisio> s/nautilus/files/
[03:19] <reisio> s/files/the file manager/
[03:19] <reisio> s/gnome/clowns/
[03:19] <wymillerlinux> django_: there should be a dropdown for root filesystem, i can't remember exactly
[03:19] <wyoung> s/reisio//
[03:19] <reisio> nooooo
[03:19] <wyoung> :D
[03:20] <munch_28> wyoung: that's what I'm talking about. It's like I need to know a program language to use this OS just to find a file
[03:20] <munch_28> because I don't know how to open the default file manager in administrative mode
[03:21] <wyoung> munch_28: that isn't a programming langauge, and you can search via GUI if you want to
[03:21] <wyoung> munch_28: it will probably be in your home directoty
[03:21] <wyoung> directory*
[03:22] <wyoung> munch_28: so you don't need to open it as root
[03:22] <wymillerlinux> django_: i'm wrong, click the plus button then appears a dialouge where you can set the parameters of the new parition(s)
[03:23] <wymillerlinux> including the root filesystem which is /
[03:23] <django_> Got it
[03:24] <wymillerlinux> django_: awesome, once you configured your parition(s), you can then hit ok
[03:24] <django_> Yehhhhh
[03:24] <wyoung> munch_28: I just told you the command line way of doing it because you can just copy and paste that without having you point and click, which you cant copy and paste
[03:25] <wyoung> munch_28: unless you know a way to copy and paste point and click commands over IRC?
[03:25] <munch_28> Does opengl not support advanced graphic settings in games that DX9 or 11 does?
[03:26] <wymillerlinux> munch_28: it should...?
[03:26] <wymillerlinux> munch_28: i'm not a opengl programmer lol
[03:26] <munch_28> Got wow up, but a lot of graphic settings are just off
[03:26] <wyoung> munch_28: The NVIDIA drivers allow you to do that
[03:26] <wyoung> munch_28: unless you are stupid enough to buy an ATI / AMD
[03:26] <azizLIGHT> is there a way to reset the mouse cursor
[03:26] <wyoung> s/stupid/uninformed/
[03:27] <azizLIGHT> i cant see it anymore
[03:27] <munch_28> wyoung: .....I have the NVIDIA, and have been using proprietary drivers
[03:27] <azizLIGHT> its not there when i move the mouse
[03:27] <wyoung> munch_28: Nice work!
[03:27] <reisio> azizLIGHT: you see output in a terminal if you cat /dev/input/mice and move the mouse?
[03:27] <wyoung> munch_28: open the nvidia control panel then and take a look
[03:27] <munch_28> wyoung: heh, thanks. At least fixed that issue. My fault, wrong directory folder
[03:27] <wyoung> munch_28: for directx settings open up the wine control panel
[03:27] <munch_28> wyoung: cool beans, thanks
[03:28] <wyoung> munch_28: click on the ubuntu button then type in nvidia :)
[03:28] <munch_28> wyoung: eh....Dx9, not sure about that
[03:36] <azizLIGHT> reisio: i dunno what happened, but i can see the mouse now
[03:36] <reisio> azizLIGHT: cool beanses
[03:53] <booh> I upgrade 12.04 and now grub say: Failed to get canonical path
[03:53] <booh> don't know what to do before rebooting to be sure it will work..
[03:53] <reisio> heh, canonical path, that's funny
[03:53] <dosen> How can I use this repository? http://repo.opensourceiran.ir/repo/ubuntu/
[03:53] <booh>  error: failed to get canonical path of `/dev/disk/by-uuid/e39994d5-a3c6-4371-8b5b-822c6816ea36'
[03:54] <dosen> Is this ok? "deb http://repo.opensourceiran.ir/repo/ubuntu xenial universe"
[03:55] <booh> I would like to do a do-release-upgrade to 16.04 but... it says that there is no new release.
[03:56] <booh> (I'm on 14.04)
[03:56] <YankDownUnder> booh, Have you added the proper PPA for doing the upgrade - and as well, have you checked in your package manager that you're setup and configured properly for an upgrade (distribution upgrade)?
[03:56] <booh> I'm on server.
[03:56] <Tonvin> nn/
[03:58] <goddard> is the intel-microcode worth installing?
[03:59] <YankDownUnder> booh, https://help.ubuntu.com/lts/serverguide/installing-upgrading.html => Have you read through this?
[04:00] <Bashing-om> goddard:  See ' apt show intel-microcode ' and you decide .
[04:02] <booh> Just not sure I should repair the grub error before do-release-upgrade.... maybe the upgrade will fix the grub error...
[04:04] <dax> goddard: yes.
[04:04] <goddard> dax: if you don't mind sharing, why do you say yes?/
[04:04] <YankDownUnder> booh, When the machine is being upgraded, the system will update the boot.
[04:05] <dax> goddard: because it patches bugs found in Intel CPU microcode, and bugs are bad.
[04:05] <ygorl> how do i always run a script at startup in ubuntu server 14.04 ?
[04:06] <booh> YankDownUnder, I was on 14.04.03.  I've done dist-upgrade but now I'm stuck because of an error with grub...
[04:06] <booh>  error: failed to get canonical path of `/dev/disk/by-uuid/e39994d5-a3c6-4371-8b5b-822c6816ea36'
[04:06] <booh> not sure I should upgrade the release to 16.04 or fix the grub error first...
[04:09] <booh> ok seems that 14.04 to 16.04 is not ready...
[04:10] <philuk86> booh: reinstall grub.
[04:11] <booh> grub-install ?  doesn't work
[04:11] <Tonvin> exit
[04:11] <Tonvin> exit
[04:12] <philuk86> are you logged in and have terminal?
[04:15] <demon_spork> Does anyone know where I can get a KVIRC package that was compiled without KDE dependency? It is a compile time option for KVIRC to not require KDE dependencies, but I would love it if someone maintains a repo with it already compiled like that
[04:16] <booh> I'm looged
[04:17] <booh> I'm logged in ssh
[04:17] <booh> my / is on /dev/md0
[04:18] <booh> but df -hm give /dev/disk/by-uuid/..... for my / instead of /dev/md0.  For my /home, I have /dev/md1 with df -hm
[04:19] <philuk86> sudo mkdir /mnt
[04:19] <philuk86> sudo mount /dev/md0 /mnt
[04:20] <philuk86> sudo mount --bind /dev /mnt/dev
[04:20] <philuk86> sudo mount --bind /dev/pts /mnt/dev/pts
[04:20] <philuk86> sudo mount --bind /proc
[04:21] <philuk86> sudo mount --bind /sys /mnt/sys
[04:21] <philuk86> sudo chroot /mnt
[04:21] <philuk86> grub-install /dev/md0
[04:22] <philuk86> grub-install --recheck /dev/md0
[04:22] <philuk86> update-grub
[04:22] <philuk86> try that^
[04:24] <booh> grub-install: warning: File system `ext2' doesn't support embedding.
[04:24] <booh> grub-install: warning: Embedding is not possible.  GRUB can only be installed in this setup by using blocklists.  However, blocklists are UNRELIABLE and their use is discouraged..
[04:24] <booh> grub-install: error: will not proceed with blocklists.
[04:24] <booh> md0 should be in ext4
[04:26] <philuk86> paste /etc/fstab
[04:28] <booh> http://paste.ubuntu.com/16337581/
[04:29] <philuk86> which disks are in your / raid?
[04:29] <booh> md0: sdc2, sdd2   md1: sda1, sdb1
[04:29] <booh> md0 = /
[04:29] <booh> md1 = /home
[04:30] <philuk86> you need to install grub on each of the disks not on the raid itself
[04:30] <booh> I tried already
[04:30] <philuk86> ok so grub-install /dev/sdc
[04:31] <booh> grub-install: error: failed to get canonical path of `/dev/disk/by-uuid/e39994d5-a3c6-4371-8b5b-822c6816ea36'.
[04:31] <booh> same for /dev/sdd
[04:32] <philuk86> try.. ls -l /dev/mapper
[04:34] <booh> total 0
[04:34] <booh> crw------- 1 root root 10, 236 May  9 22:41 control
[04:34] <booh> (I exited from the chroot by the way)
[04:34] <mrr411> hey there guys and galls got a problem I reset bios and need to do fresh install of Ubuntu but when i set boot order to usb and restart I keep getting no boot disk has been detected or the disk as failed but I have used this usb before and I know it works
[04:40] <Heero151> Why is 'get' not working in my terminal, but i can pull uo the manual
[04:41] <akki101> hello!
[04:41] <Heero151> Cant find the package 'get'
[04:41] <akki101> quit
[04:42] <Bashing-om> !details
[04:49] <booh> I can try a reboot?
[04:49] <philuk86> hang on
[04:49] <philuk86> what does mdadm --detail /dev/md0
[04:51] <booh> http://paste.ubuntu.com/16337998/<
[04:52] <philuk86> thats your ext4 280GB?
[04:53] <booh> md0 is in EXT4
[04:53] <philuk86> look at the uuids
[04:54] <philuk86> they are different, in your /etc/fstab your root is on e39994d5 but this device is 67d48678
[04:54] <booh> sdc1 = swap 16G, sdc2 = raid, sdc3 = small ? something... I think 100MB for grub maybe?  sdc4 = extra 680G ext4 no use at this moment.
[04:54] <booh> yes.  I don't know why.
[04:55] <philuk86> try mdadm --detail /dev/md1
[04:55] <philuk86> this should be your home and uuid e0e4a553
[04:56] <philuk86> it cant install grub if you dont have a partition on your disk with the correct uuid
[04:56] <philuk86> paste the output for md1 lets check that one
[04:57] <booh> http://paste.ubuntu.com/16338124/
[04:57] <booh> look in madm.conf, the sub-uuid
[04:58] <philuk86> do they match?
[04:58] <philuk86> ls -l /dev/disk/by-uuid
[04:59] <philuk86> do you see your root partition e39994d5-a3c6-4371-8b5b-822c6816ea36?
[05:00] <booh> no
[05:00] <booh> no md partitions their.
[05:00] <booh> there.
[05:00] <philuk86> in here .. ls -l /dev/disk/by-partuuid/
[05:00] <philuk86> ?
[05:02] <booh> no
[05:02] <philuk86> ok i think this is the problem then
[05:02] <booh> no md partitions there
[05:02] <philuk86> none?
[05:02] <booh> none
[05:03] <booh> in fstab, there are sub-uuid also...
[05:03] <booh> and they are good
[05:03] <philuk86> they match ?
[05:04] <booh> yes... the sub ones
[05:04] <philuk86> sub?
[05:04] <booh> sorry I am so tired...
[05:04] <booh> in fstab it's the md ones
[05:05] <philuk86> but when i compare your fstab and the ones in the mdadmin output they are not the same
[05:07] <booh> http://paste.ubuntu.com/16338315/   <--- their in blkid
[05:12] <philuk86> if the system doesnt boot how are you logged in?
[05:13] <booh> I didn't reboot
[05:13] <booh> I didn't reboot since I do the dist-upgrade
[05:13] <philuk86> oh
[05:13] <booh> 7 packages didn't installed...
[05:14] <booh> I just do a dist-upgrade from 14.04 to 14.04...
[05:14] <philuk86> im not sure if the partition with the correct uuid exists or grub doesnt see it properly
[05:17] <philuk86> booh try reboot, you can always mount it with a livecd to try and reinstall grub within a chroot
[05:23] <booh> uuid in mdadm and blkid uuid are the same.
[05:23] <philuk86> booh: did you see this http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1681190&page=3
[05:23] <booh> uuid in fstab and blkid md uuid are the same.
[05:24] <booh> no didn't see it.
[05:24] <philuk86> btw grub will see ext4 as ext2
[05:24] <booh> ok
[05:24] <philuk86> booh: that topic sounds similar to yours
[05:24] <booh> yes I saw an error with md/0
[05:25] <booh> I didn't reboot yet ;-)
[05:25] <wyoung> ext4 can be mounted as ext2 (just without the extra features that ext4 provides such as journalling and probably extended attributes and ACLs)
[05:25] <wyoung> not sure about the latter though
[05:25] <wyoung> Lipp! The thing that people don't like me to give them
[05:26] <philuk86> booh: ok well check the thread
[05:28] <philuk86> booh: your brave to use software raid
[05:29] <booh> raid1
[05:29] <booh> First time I have problems
[05:29] <booh> the problem is not the raid but the bad update of ubuntu
[05:30] <philuk86> you dont need to use dist-upgrade
[05:31] <booh> I read the thread but... don't know what to do exactly
[05:31] <booh> it's very old you know
[05:32] <philuk86> booh: in general i would recommend putting /boot on a seperate partition
[05:34] <philuk86> booh: there is a gui app called disk repair https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Repair
[05:34] <philuk86> booh: you can install that and give it a try
[05:48] <c0nfuseki> sorry if this is in the wrong place, but i have just come back to my computer and see that i have been booted from channels for 'join flooding'. i have no idea what is going on.
[05:48] <booh> strange... reboot works normaly.
[05:49] <nchambers> c0nfuseki, it just means your client was randomly disconnecting and reconnecting very quickly
[05:49] <c0nfuseki> you man like rebooting the computer?
[05:49] <nchambers> no
[05:50] <c0nfuseki> thank you for replying. from some of the messages i recieved -- it's like as if i mortally offended someone
[05:50] <nchambers> its very annoying when you let your client do that
[05:53] <glitchd> hello all
[05:53] <c0nfuseki> i am using xchat... so here would be some setting to prevent rejoining?
[05:53] <glitchd> having a weird problem tonight
[05:53] <nchambers> Don't use xchat
[05:53] <nchambers> use hexchat
[05:53] <glitchd> plugged in hdmi then sound went nuts
[05:54] <glitchd> i lost sound from speakers, but it still works in headphones
[05:54] <glitchd> ive already removed and reinstalled alsa and pulseaudio
[05:55] <glitchd> when i remove pulse, audio plays thru both regardless of if headphones are plugged in or not
[05:55] <glitchd> when i reinstall pulse, audio only plays through headphones
[05:55] <glitchd> no sound through speakers when headphones are removed
[05:56] <glitchd> anyone have any possible insight as to why this is happening or how to fix it?
[05:57] <booh> How to remove a spare drive in mdadm?
[05:58] <cpaelzer> glitchd: whenever pulseaudio failed me I was usually able to reconf on the fly with pavucontrol - maybe it can help you as well
[05:59] <TheSilentLink> System Info: Model: iPhone SE · iOS: 9.3.1 · RAM: 1.96 GB · Diskspace: 27.88 GB · GPU: PowerVR GT7600 · Screen Resolution (Portrait): 1136x640 · Battery: 100% · Uptime: 2 days · Client: Mutter 1.3.6 (Build 1612909)
[05:59] <glitchd> cpaelzer, pavucontrol is not helping..
[06:00] <cpaelzer> :-/
[06:00] <glitchd> cpaelzer, my thoughs exactly
[06:00] <glitchd> thoughts*
[06:01] <cpaelzer> glitchd: any success with the different profiles in the pavucontrol "Configuration" Tab ?
[06:01] <EriC^^> glitchd: did you try settings > sound?
[06:01] <cpaelzer> I've had a few cases where I just had the wrong profile there
[06:02] <glitchd> cpaelzer, nope=(
[06:03] <cpaelzer> Clearly EriC^^ s advise to run through your desktops system sound config can be good as well, but I use KDE which rarley somebody else does so no experience to share there
[06:03] <cpaelzer> booh: there is a --remove in mdadm, check its manpage for details on it
[06:04] <glitchd> EriC^^, i dont have that menu option..
[06:04] <cpaelzer> booh: but its should just be "mdadm <array> --remove <spare>"
[06:04] <EriC^^> glitchd: which de are you using?
[06:04] <glitchd> EriC^^, xubuntu 15.10
[06:05] <EriC^^> glitchd: try multimedia > volume control
[06:08] <glitchd> EriC^^, yes that is there, pulseaudio volume control and gnome alsa mixer
[06:08] <glitchd> pulseaudio volume control shows that something is playing with the notification bars, but there is no audio coming out of the speakers
[06:09] <glitchd> *volume level bars..?
[06:09] <EriC^^> try to press ctrl+alt+f1 and login
[06:09] <EriC^^> alt+f7 brings you back to the gui
[06:11] <glitchd> EriC^^, why would i log into an extra tty?
[06:22] <mrr411> any one here?
[06:22] <c0nfuseki> i am
[06:22] <mrr411> I installed new ubuntu 16.4 then inserted new graphix card
[06:23] <mrr411> getting the system is running low graphix mode
[06:23] <mrr411> any idea how to install the right driver from the terminal
[06:23] <mrr411> I can get to that but not into ubuntu
[06:23] <mrr411> i tried reinstalling gdm like google searches sugested but that did not help
[06:24] <hateball> mrr411: What card are you using?
[06:24] <mrr411> its an AMD
[06:24] <hateball> mrr411: And previously?
[06:24] <mrr411> dont reamember the exact card right now
[06:24] <mrr411> motherboard
[06:25] <mrr411> wsa using motherboard graphix
[06:25] <mrr411> the card is compatable i was using it before with 14 and stuff just had to do fresh nstalle
[06:26] <mrr411> install
[06:26] <hateball> mrr411: if you run "ubuntu-drivers devices" does that show the card?
[06:26] <mrr411> how do i run that
[06:26] <hateball> mrr411: also, "lspci |grep VGA" will give the exact card model
[06:26] <glitchd> welp im back again..
[06:26] <hateball> mrr411: run in a terminal
[06:27] <kiran_> I love hexchats,gives me the old linux mint feel
[06:27] <mrr411> so just sudo ubuntu-drives devices
[06:27] <glitchd> EriC^^, maybe this will shed some light on the issue, this is the output from "aplay -l"
[06:27] <glitchd> glitchd@Xubuntu1510:~$ aplay -l
[06:27] <glitchd> **** List of PLAYBACK Hardware Devices ****
[06:27] <glitchd> card 0: PCH [HDA Intel PCH], device 0: 92HD87B2/4 Analog [92HD87B2/4 Analog]
[06:27] <glitchd>   Subdevices: 0/1
[06:27] <glitchd>   Subdevice #0: subdevice #0
[06:27] <glitchd> card 0: PCH [HDA Intel PCH], device 3: HDMI 0 [HDMI 0]
[06:27] <glitchd>   Subdevices: 1/1
[06:27] <glitchd>   Subdevice #0: subdevice #0
[06:31] <mrr411> be right back going to see if i still have the box for the card
[06:33] <uruk7> how to save session and desktops in ubuntu 15.10
[06:33] <mrr411> it came up with a bunch of stuff but i dont understand any of it
[06:35] <uruk7> save programs opens
[06:35] <mrr411> hateball: sent you a IM
[06:35] <mrr411> how do you tag some on in a message on here ?
[06:35] <hateball> !who | mrr411
[06:35] <hateball> !pm | mrr411
[06:36] <mrr411> he second comand you sugested came up with a munch of things but non i understand and the first one just says intell mictocode
[06:36] <hateball> mrr411: I know pretty much nothing about AMD gpus, but I am guessing you either have a defunct /etc/x11/xorg.conf (can be removed)
[06:37] <hateball> mrr411: or perhaps the module needed for the card is blacklisted for some reason
[06:37] <mrr411> there is a xserver-xor-vidio-mouceau - distro free builtin
[06:38] <mrr411> hateball! oh i have a gforce gt 630 !!!!!
[06:39] <hateball> ...
[06:39] <mrr411> i just saw it in the notes
[06:40] <mrr411> how do i find out what to download from terminal for that card?
[06:42] <mrr411> well im out probably be back tomorow im to tired for this now
[06:42] <mrr411> night
[06:42] <hateball> Oh well, patience is a virtue
[06:42] <Bashing-om> MrRobot7: http://www.nvidia.com/download/driverResults.aspx/101423/en-us for your card .
[06:43] <glitchd1> sry for the spam everyone...wont happen again, definatly pressed buttons before i thought about it
[06:44] <dax> apologies for the over-zealous killbot. one's not generally supported to get removed from the entire network for forgetting to pastebin
[06:46] <glitchd1> cpaelzer, u still around?
[06:46] <max12345> hey there, my software updater is bugging me about updates. The package to be updated is something I actually would rather uninstall, how can I do this? (sorry, didn't see my message appear, did it get through?)
[06:47] <dax> max12345: (the message you just sent got through. any before then did not)
[06:47] <glitchd1> max12345, sudo apt-get remove --purge packagename
[06:47] <max12345> ty
[06:48] <glitchd1> max12345, np
[06:50] <max12345> (btw, the software updater could use a button for this) :)
[06:50] <glitchd1> can anyone help me sort out this sound problem im having? xubuntu 15.10..
[06:50] <lyze> max12345, Well … it's a updater not a uninstaller :P
[06:51] <kiran_> How do you install wine for ubuntu?
[06:51] <glitchd1> kiran_, software center
[06:51] <lyze> !info wine | kiran_
[06:51] <max12345> lyze: that's true but the "rejecting an update" could use more differentiation than "delay for now".
[06:51] <glitchd1> im only getting sound through my headphones and not my speakers, can someone help me fix this?
[06:52] <kiran_> is it configure wine?
[06:52] <max12345> glitchd1: do you use pavucontrol?
[06:53] <max12345> it's the default sound manager if iirc
[06:53] <glitchd1> kiran_, you can install wine with the software center
[06:53] <kiran_> all that shows up is configure wine, is that it?
[06:53] <glitchd1> max12345, not specifically, but it is installed
[06:54] <glitchd1> kiran_, are u sure wine isnt already installed?
[06:56] <max12345> do you use some kind of usb thing with your headphones or do you use the standard audio jacks? the sound manager has a default audio output, if your system has trouble recognizing the usb thingy that might be your problem.
[06:58] <glitchd1> max12345, no everything is normal, meaning standard audio jacks, headphones, mic.
[07:00] <glitchd1> max12345, right now its playing but it thinks its coming from the headphone but the headphones are unplugged. if i plug them in, they work, but then unplugging them does not restore sound. i have to go into volume control and switch input to headphones(unplugged) to get the speakers to work.
[07:00] <cdidd> kernel upgrade broke nvidia drivers https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nvidia-graphics-drivers-361/+bug/1574838
[07:00] <cpaelzer> glitchd1: I'm around again - but I was out of immediate ideas before
[07:01] <glitchd1> cpaelzer, right on, i got a short ban for spamming without thinking
[07:01] <cdidd> I don't understand how it's a thing. To not test such thing on a LTS distro.
[07:01] <glitchd1> cpaelzer, lol
[07:01] <glitchd1> cpaelzer, still trying to figure this out..
[07:02] <glitchd1> cpaelzer, right now i have sound playing thru the speakers, but it thinkis its coming from the headphone, which are unplugged, and if plug them in the remove them im stuck in the same situation again..
[07:05] <cpaelzer> glitchd: just use pastebinit to avoid spam next time
[07:05] <cdidd> Could someone please explain to me why this bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nvidia-graphics-drivers-361/+bug/1574838 is not literally thousands upon thousands of comments?
[07:05] <cpaelzer> glitchd: what got you to the working speakers now=
[07:06] <cdidd> It's like latest kernel and current nvidia-361, it should be hundreds of thousands people affected.
[07:06] <Android> Command to upgrade from 15.10 to 16.04 without running update-manager.
[07:06] <Android> Quick
[07:06] <glitchd> cpaelzer, just fudging with settings really, trying things left and right
[07:06] <cpaelzer> Android: do-release-upgrade ?
[07:07] <glitchd> cpaelzer, then i went into volume control and plugged in my headphones and it switched to headphones as the output, so then i unplugged them and it switch the speakers so i switched it back to headphones(unplugged) and sound started coming out of the speakers
[07:08] <glitchd> cpaelzer, but i have to do that each time i plug in and remove the headphones
[07:08] <cpaelzer> glitchd: so SW is currently set to "Headphone unplugged" and sound comes out of your speakers now
[07:08] <glitchd>  cpaelzer and really, thats a pain in the ass
[07:09] <glitchd> cpaelzer, yes.
[07:10] <cpaelzer> glitchd: long in the past with some weird headphones I had some success with changing sinks http://askubuntu.com/questions/71863/how-to-change-pulseaudio-sink-with-pacmd-set-default-sink-during-playback
[07:10] <Android> if I script some commands in a file with .sh format and run that without typing commands repetitively for a task, would that work?
[07:10] <cpaelzer> glitchd: it is essentially a more raw interface to what pavucontrol gives you
[07:10] <glitchd> cpaelzer, http://i.imgur.com/eNS96Dy.png
[07:10] <cdidd> how to tell dkms system to not remove/rebuild modules from old kernels?
[07:11] <cpaelzer> glitchd: but sometimes you might find something in there that helps to get it to use the right profile and sinks
[07:11] <fxrupr> glitchd: i always had problems with sound on trusty whenever plugging/unplugging headphones, my solution was from this dude > yktoo.com/en/software/indicator-sound-switcher
[07:12] <glitchd> cpaelzer, fxrupr all this happened tonight when i was trying to get audio to go thru my hdmi so i could watch a movie on kodi thru my tv and i havent been abel to figure out what happened
[07:12] <glitchd> this system has been running fine for a while now
[07:12] <glitchd> this is the first real problem ive had
[07:13] <fxrupr> glitchd: hmmm
[07:13] <glitchd> fxrupr, major hmmm...
[07:13] <glitchd> cpaelzer, did u check that link?
[07:14] <Android> if I script some commands in a file with .sh format and run that without typing commands repetitively for a task, would that work?
[07:14] <cpaelzer> glitchd: well it seems another way to change pulse audio profiles, could be a nice shortcut for you if you can't solve the root cause to switch between outputs
[07:16] <glitchd> cpaelzer, im just so lost on what it could be since everything was fine a few hours ago
[07:16] <glitchd> cpaelzer, then i had to plug in that damn hdmi cord
[07:16] <glitchd> cpaelzer, fml
[07:19] <Android> Just yes or no????
[07:19] <Unlock> hi, welcome to  http://www.cosos.cn/community/forum.php?fromuser=Vie
[07:30] <glitchd> cpaelzer, screw it lol im wiping and reinstalling tomorrow.
[07:30] <glitchd> cpaelzer, not going to 16.04 tho, gonna stay on 15.10
[07:30] <glitchd> cpaelzer, have a good nite=)
[07:34] <bqkashmir> hi all
[07:34] <radiotoubab> yo
[07:34] <Android> bqkashmir : you kashmiri?
[07:35] <bqkashmir> indeed, not very imaginative with the nick but I settled on it
[07:37] <goskydiving> good morning all :-)
[07:37] <Android> if I script some commands in a file with .sh format and run that without typing commands repetitively for a task, would that work?
[07:37] <Android> Anyone come on??
[07:39] <Myrkur> hi guys, I'm having quite a problem with my ubuntu installation...
[07:39] <Myrkur> I just installed it and after reboot all I can see is a flashing "_"
[07:39] <goskydiving> I need help dual-booting my computer. I cannot get it to boot to the ubuntu dvd. I have tried downloading another iso, and burning it on a different computer, and I still have the same problem. I also tried changing the boot order in my bios and it still ignores the dvd drive and just boots to windows
[07:40] <sgronblo> hello. any idea how to enable bluetooth on the ubuntu desktop login screen?
[07:43] <Android> goskydiving : Does your computer detects the OS ?
[07:43] <IonutVan_> goskydiving, sometimes there 2 places in bios where you have to select the boot drive. Perhaps you can just activate "Boot Selection Menu" during the boot time and select from there?
[07:43] <IonutVan_> there are*
[07:43] <sgronblo> this time i had to first log in with my guest user and then add the bluetooth keyboard and then log out and then my bluetooth keyboard can be used during login, but its a bit annoying
[07:43] <Android> if I script some commands in a file with .sh format and run that without typing commands repetitively for a task, would that work?
[07:45] <goskydiving> IonutVan_: I have been selecting the dvd drive from the boot selection menu and it still ignores the optical drive. Any other ideas? :-/
[07:45] <IonutVan_> goskydiving, try to see if you cd/dvd is bootable on a different machine or in a vmware/virtualbox perhaps?
[07:46] <goskydiving> Android: windows sees the files on the dvd when i view it, but my computer refuses to boot the dvd, and that's where my confusion is ... :-(
[07:47] <Myrkur> I only get a flashing _ at boot, isn't that a grub issue ?
[07:47] <goskydiving> IonutVan_: I'm going to try that. goodnight everyone
[07:54] <Android> Myrkur : Probably.
[07:54] <Android> Myrkur : If you have a live usb, try running from that.
[07:56] <Myrkur> Android: I just installed it with the live usb
[07:56] <Myrkur> could I repare grub from the live?
[07:57] <Android> Yes
[07:57] <Myrkur> Cool, will you help me to do so?
[07:58] <Donitzo> Can you remind me, was it possible to pick a desktop environment when installing ubuntu?
[07:58] <Donitzo> like in the debian installer
[07:58] <Android> re able to run live usb on that system.
[07:59] <Android> *Are
[07:59] <Android> *Are you
[07:59] <Donitzo> yes
[07:59] <Myrkur> ok Android well, don't ask me why but since I plugged my live usb the grub loaded
[08:00] <Donitzo> ah, nvm
[08:01] <Android> Donitzo : You have the option to reinstall the system. But that might erase your data on the disk for previous OS.
[08:01] <Android> I did the same a few weeks back.
[08:02] <Donitzo> The system isn't installed yet, but I'd prefer not to install Unity in the first place
[08:02] <Donitzo> That's the current desktop environment right?
[08:02] <Donitzo> much more prefer xfce
[08:05] <Android> You can simply do that after installing the OS for any environment.
[08:05] <Donitzo> Yes, but that is a lot of extra bloat on the system
[08:05] <Donitzo> if I can't deselect it
[08:05] <Myrkur> ok Android so grub only loads when I put my live usb...
[08:08] <Android> Myrkur : Could'nt get you completely. If you see the option for you OS on grub, just select that and try a reinstall.
[08:08] <Android> That works in most of the cases unless it is some hardware requirement issue.
[08:09] <Myrkur> yes but i'm afraid it uses the live grub...
[08:09] <ducasse> Donitzo: install from the server image, there you can select what desktop to install.
[08:09] <Myrkur> yeah could be...
[08:10] <Donitzo> thanks for the suggestion ducasse
[08:11] <Android> Myrkur : Just install the OS and state what happens.
[08:11] <Myrkur> ok
[08:11] <ducasse> Donitzo: no problem. you can also use the xubuntu image if xfce is what you want.
[08:12] <cicko> does fix for screen tearing for intel hd graphics by making a 20-intel.conf still work on ubuntu 16.04?
[08:16] <lotuspsychje> cicko: is this a clean install or upgrade?
[08:16] <cicko> clean install lotuspsychje
[08:16] <lotuspsychje> cicko: your system up to date also?
[08:17] <cicko> it is
[08:17] <lotuspsychje> cicko: liveusb mode also does the screen tearing?
[08:17] <cicko> lotuspsychje I've got this screen tearing on every ubuntu-based os, however this could be fixed by creating this file before
[08:18] <Takumo> So, does Xenial only ship with PHP ≥ 7.0 ?
[08:18] <lotuspsychje> cicko: perhaps making a new bug would be interesting for this
[08:18] <lotuspsychje> Takumo: yes, wich version do you need?
[08:19] <Takumo> lotuspsychje: ~> 5.6.0
[08:19] <lotuspsychje> Takumo: well its recommended to use package versions, meant for your specific ubuntu version, so better not mix
[08:19] <lotuspsychje> Takumo: so if you need lower php version, install a lower ubuntu version
[08:20] <cicko> lotuspsychje I have found another way to fix this, by autostarting compton, but there seems to be a delay, how to start program without a delay?
[08:20] <Takumo> lotuspsychje: I would if the whole job wasn't to "upgrade to latest verison of ubuntu"
[08:20] <lotuspsychje> cicko: im not familliar with compton, sorry
[08:21] <lotuspsychje> Takumo: what do you mean by that?
[08:21] <cicko> lotuspsychje I'm just wondering how to start any program immediately after booting
[08:21] <lotuspsychje> cicko: check systemd perhaps
[08:22] <cicko> lotuspsychje running that says: Trying to run as user instance, but $XDG_RUNTIME_DIR is not set.
[08:23] <Myrkur> Android: i ran boot-repair which reinstalled grub and now everything's ok
[08:25] <Takumo> lotuspsychje: the job as agreed by the client was to replace their existing systems with new ones running xenial to be ready for next year when precise goes out of support
[08:26] <lotuspsychje> Takumo: how about php version from 14.04?
[08:26] <Takumo> if I can get it installed on xenial, but can't really tell the client that we're now not upgrading to xenial after they've signed off the job to upgrade to xenial.
[08:28] <lotuspsychje> Takumo: right, and whats the reason you cant work with php7 ?
[08:29] <Takumo> lotuspsychje: the application we're running for the client doesn't function correctly under PHP 7 :/
[08:29] <Takumo> and its a vendored package
[08:29] <lotuspsychje> Takumo: perhaps talk to the #ubuntu-server channel about it, they might know a workaround for this
[08:30] <lotuspsychje> !pinning | Takumo another way/use at own risk
[08:30] <Takumo> k
[08:30] <knoppix> hali halo
[08:45] <WoodyPC> What is a better irc chat to use? I am using chatzilla plugin for Firefox.
[08:45] <DrRipple> Magical
[08:46] <lotuspsychje> WoodyPC: irssi, hexchat,weechat
[08:46] <WoodyPC> What do yall use?
[08:46] <Noob> How i can check how much more mkfs.ext4 takes time? Some kind of indicator
[08:47] <WoodyPC> going to check those now.
[08:47] <insidious> Anyone know the reason why after adding the themes in usr/share/theme it doesn't show the themes in appearence?
[08:47] <Noob> Now it has done almost 1h 30min and 16gb usb stick
[08:47] <de-facto> WoodyPC id recomment #hexchat its really nice
[08:48] <lotuspsychje> insidious: you can use unity-tweak-tool to manage themes if you like
[08:48] <lotuspsychje> !themes | insidious
[08:48] <insidious> do i have to install that?
[08:48] <lotuspsychje> insidious: yes
[08:49] <AlanJenkins> hey guys, I am trying to secure a server against the https drown attack, my understanding of Drown is that if older encryption methods are turned off the server should be secure yet despite only having TLS1.2 enabled the server I am trying to secure is still weak. Anyone have any experience with this?
[08:49] <de-facto> insidious press Alt + F2 enter "r" hit enter, then fire up tweak tool
[08:49] <lotuspsychje> AlanJenkins: perhaps the #ubuntu-server channel can advise you on it?
[08:49] <insidious> ok ill try it
[08:49] <AlanJenkins> lotuspsychje: ok mate will try there
[08:50] <AlanJenkins> thanks
[08:50] <lotuspsychje> AlanJenkins: also make sure your server is always up to date
[08:50] <lotuspsychje> !usn | AlanJenkins and recent security flaws here
[08:50] <de-facto> insidious well thats at least how it works under gnome, not sure how to reload unity though (you might need to relogin)
[08:52] <AlanJenkins> server is up to date as far as it can be for trusty
[08:53] <AlanJenkins> so short of making my own packages there are no updates
[08:53] <de-facto> AlanJenkins you can fire https://www.ssllabs.com/ssltest/ at your server to get more info if you like
[08:54] <insidious> that didn't work
[08:54] <k1l> AlanJenkins: do you have a a CVE number for that security issue?
[08:55] <Lloyd___> Hi! I recently upgraded to 16.04 and am having an unfixable (so far) problem with my audio not working. I've tried a whole bunch of things to no avail. Can someone help shed some light on this?
[08:55] <de-facto> insidious which desktop environment do you use there?
[08:55] <insidious> xfce
[08:57] <de-facto> insidious hmm i dont have much experience with that but maybe you can ask in #xubuntu about restarting XFCE (i guess it may be needed for the new themes to show up). also make sure their layout structure is like the others in that dir and the version is supported
[08:57] <Android> Hey after "do-release-upgrade". Doesn't installation automatically starts?
[08:57] <insidious> restarting xfce?
[08:57] <EriC^^> Android: it downloads the sources.list and some stuff and asks if you want to continue
[08:58] <AlanJenkins> k1l: CVE-2016-0800
[08:58] <de-facto> Lloyd___ have you tired fiddling with pavcontrol and alsamixer? looked for the drivers in dmesg and such?
[08:58] <Android> It downloaded the OS files (1200 MB) approx.
[08:58] <AlanJenkins> but trusty is apparently not weak yet https://www.ssllabs.com/ssltest/analyze.html says the server is
[08:58] <EriC^^> Android: that sounds about right
[08:58] <AlanJenkins> it is running nginx, and is fully up to date
[08:58] <ikonia> AlanJenkins: how is it weak ?
[08:58] <EriC^^> Android: it should unpack them and configure too
[08:59] <ikonia> AlanJenkins: just being "up to date" is not enough, it has to be configured correctly too
[08:59] <k1l> AlanJenkins: ubuntu servers are not affected: https://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-security/cve/2016/CVE-2016-0800.html
[08:59] <EriC^^> Android: and probably ask you a bunch of config questions
[08:59] <AlanJenkins> ikonia: it has been configured too
[08:59] <AlanJenkins> https://www.ssllabs.com/ssltest/analyze.html?d=beta.uneekclothing.com&hideResults=on
[08:59] <Lloyd___> I've gone into the alsamixer and made sure everything is up, as well as gone into the sound settings to check if it picks up th sound card. Any suggestions?
[08:59] <k1l> AlanJenkins: see the comment from the security team: mdeslaur> openssl in Ubuntu is compiled with no-ssl2
[08:59] <k1l> AlanJenkins: so you are not using a ubuntu server?
[08:59] <ikonia> AlanJenkins: so what is it saying is weak then - how is it doing the test
[09:00] <lotuspsychje> !sound | Lloyd___
[09:00] <de-facto> AlanJenkins you also can try to develop a secure config with https://mozilla.github.io/server-side-tls/ssl-config-generator/   but make a backup of your config dir before
[09:00] <Android> But there were some errors watch this http://pastebin.com/iSsxN5Kq
[09:00] <WoodyPC> hey yall, You know in Windows there is: accounts\username\apdata...etc...etc... right. Well in Ubuntu, What is the equivalent?
[09:00] <AlanJenkins> de-facto: I did just that yet it is still showing as vulnerable using that test
[09:00] <AlanJenkins> it is doing my head in =/
[09:00] <ikonia> AlanJenkins: what is it flagging as open
[09:01] <lotuspsychje> WoodyPC: /home/your-user
[09:01] <EriC^^> Android: press enter
[09:01] <Android> it exits
[09:01] <AlanJenkins> only red on the page other than the bit saying that it is vulnerable against drown is this: Vulnerable (same key with SSL v2) <- does it want me to get a new SSL cert or?
[09:01] <EriC^^> Android: aha try sudo dpkg --configure -a
[09:01] <EriC^^> Android: and sudo apt-get -f install
[09:01] <lotuspsychje> WoodyPC: ctrl+h to show hidden files in your /home folder
[09:02] <ikonia> AlanJenkins: how did you make your certificate ?
[09:02] <WoodyPC> lotuspsychje: That was next question.
[09:02] <WoodyPC> lotuspsychje: How do I delete hidden files?
[09:03] <AlanJenkins> ikonia: I believe it was generated by Plesk when someone else setup the server
[09:03] <lotuspsychje> WoodyPC: can you tell us first whats your end goal?
[09:03] <de-facto> AlanJenkins did you try the strict settings on that generator? legacy may include some insecure settings afaik
[09:03] <k1l> AlanJenkins: what ubuntu is on that machine?
[09:03] <AlanJenkins> k1l: trusty
[09:03] <sexytime> is there a list of bloatware out there that i could remove from an ubuntu server installation?
[09:03] <AlanJenkins> aka 14.04
[09:03] <Android> Errors encountered with squid3. Should I run "sudo apt-get -f install" now.
[09:03] <k1l> AlanJenkins: the CVE you posted doesnt affect ubuntu since the packages for openssl are not compiled to support that attack
[09:03] <EriC^^> Android: yeah
[09:04] <ikonia> AlanJenkins: plesk.....there is your answer there
[09:04] <ikonia> then
[09:04] <k1l> AlanJenkins: make sure "sudo apt update && sudo apt full-upgrade" got all packages intsalled
[09:04] <lotuspsychje> sexytime: what are you trying to uninstall exactly?
[09:04] <AlanJenkins> ikonia: yes I know but I am just securing it for someone else (removing that is not an option for them as they are not techy)
[09:04] <sexytime> lotuspsychje, well say i got a new box. and i installed ubuntu server on it. i would like to remove everything that i wont be using the server for. in this case. all im going to run in this box is a nodejs server
[09:05] <ikonia> AlanJenkins: then you'll need to work around it
[09:05] <sexytime> keeping this in mind. how would you recommend i go about removing the stuff i do not care for
[09:05] <insidious> de-factso: thanks i had  check the layout and version got other ones to work with the same file structure.
[09:05] <AlanJenkins> and they will not take the fact that the libs used by ubuntu are not vulnerable, they will keep moaning until https://www.ssllabs.com/ssltest/analyze.html gives a decent rating
[09:05] <WoodyPC> lotuspsychje: Sure. I am playing some games that save data under you username and if you want to start the game over, (as if you have never played), You have to delete the data file for that game.
[09:05] <Android> Does "sudo apt-get -f install" installs the failed software updates??
[09:05] <AlanJenkins> guessing I should try regen the SSL certs manually next
[09:05] <de-facto> insidious glad to hear :)
[09:05] <lotuspsychje> sexytime: i think ubuntu server is already pretty vanilla to start with, buildup what you really need
[09:06] <sexytime> lotuspsychje, ah ok thanks i just needed that confirmation
[09:06] <AlanJenkins> as as far as I can tell nginx and config + openssl should be fine
[09:06] <Android> Or failed software installations?
[09:06] <Noob> Is it normal that mkfs.ext4 is making lot of lines with y char? 1h 47min now doing that format on usb 16gb.
[09:06] <lotuspsychje> sexytime: see also the #ubuntu-server channel
[09:06] <EriC^^> Noob: no, that sounds like somehow the program "yes" is running
[09:06] <de-facto> sexytime just do the install itself as minimal as you can, then add stuff as you need it (thats always a good strategy imho ;)
[09:06] <Android> By the way, done. Now?
[09:07] <EriC^^> Noob: did you run mkfs.ext4 /dev/sdX && yes ?
[09:07] <akik> sexytime: we are fortunate that bloatware which i think you refer to from windows-land does not exist in ubuntu
[09:07] <sexytime> de-facto, i havent installed ubuntu servers before. im assuming during the installing it will ask me about additional stuff i want and i can just untick them?
[09:07] <EriC^^> Noob: is this from a script?
[09:07] <sexytime> akik haha right-o
[09:07] <Android> By the way, done. Now?
[09:07] <Noob> IT asked me something and i wrote yes to it
[09:08] <lotuspsychje> WoodyPC: sure, you can find saved games files in your /home hidden dirs
[09:08] <EriC^^> Noob: maybe it just asked you that it's done or something?
[09:09] <de-facto> sexytime yeah just install sshd and add everything else later maybe? at least then you know what you install and where to look for configs. Also you might want to scan it with nmap and look with "sudo netstat -tulpn" so you are sure you know everything listening
[09:09] <EriC^^> Noob: try to press shift+home and then go down a bit and see what it asked and paste here if possible
[09:09] <Android> Now, how do I install it after squid3 has been installed.
[09:09] <akik> Noob: not sure what you did but there's a command 'yes' which outputs a string until you stop it. e.g. "yes y"
[09:10] <R0binh00d> Trying to figure out if I should go for Xubuntu or Mate Desktop. Any quick pointers? or personal view points?
[09:10] <R0binh00d> thanks
[09:10] <Noob> No. It was just starting. Asking something with hmm..shift home wont work
[09:10] <akik> Noob: mkfs should display its progress on screen as it goes
[09:10] <EriC^^> Noob: when it asked you did you have a shell prompt? like user@something:/$
[09:10] <WoodyPC> lotuspsychje: They are in my Downloads/Games directory. Under each game folder
[09:10] <sexytime> de-facto, im assuming in the installer there is option to untick sshd ?
[09:11] <sexytime> in the installer of the ubuntu server i mean
[09:11] <lotuspsychje> R0binh00d: the users choice really
[09:11] <Noob> I will close it. I can do it again. Lets try again wait
[09:11] <lotuspsychje> R0binh00d: ask yourself what flavor you really need?
[09:11] <sexytime> mango
[09:11] <EriC^^> Noob: ok try ctrl+c
[09:11] <de-facto> sexytime i guess so but you need some way to access it later (the most secure/common would be sshd)
[09:11] <R0binh00d> lotuspsychje, yeah you are right. Which one do you use by the way?
[09:11] <sexytime> de-facto, i think i will keep sshd
[09:11] <lotuspsychje> R0binh00d: 16.04 64bit with unity
[09:12] <Android> EriC^^ : Done. Now?
[09:12] <lotuspsychje> R0binh00d: xubuntu and mate are lighter in use
[09:12] <Android> How to install?
[09:12] <R0binh00d> So if you just booted your system, and nothing else is running, how much RAM would be in use?
[09:12] <EriC^^> Android: try dpkg -l | grep -v ^ii | nc termbin.com 9999
[09:12] <Noob> There isnt any partition..maybe i have to add partition first
[09:12] <EriC^^> Android: install what?
[09:13] <Android> 16.04
[09:13] <EriC^^> Noob: what did you run it on earlier?
[09:13] <Noob> If 16 gb is taking too long
[09:13] <lotuspsychje> R0binh00d: unity eats more ram then xfce, how much ram do you have?
[09:13] <EriC^^> Noob: it shouldn't take too long, just like 30secs or so
[09:13] <WoodyPC> lotuspsychje: So, How do delete these types of directories? They are hidden and read/only. Remember, these are games, They don't have anything to do with changing Ubuntu or anything serious.
[09:14] <Noob> I just took new usb 16 gb and wanted to format it
[09:14] <de-facto> Noob are you in gparted doing this?
[09:14] <EriC^^> Noob: do it from gparted ^
[09:14] <Noob> Terminal..not in gparted
[09:14] <Android> http://termbin.com/yiw8
[09:14] <EriC^^> Noob: create a fresh partition table, then make 1 16gb partition, and format it
[09:14] <Android> Now what's this?
[09:14] <lotuspsychje> WoodyPC: in your /home folder cant harm, but make sure you dont delete config files instead of savedgames files
[09:14] <EriC^^> Noob: ok, use gdisk/fdisk cfdisk/cgdisk
[09:14] <Android> EriC^^ : Now what's this?
[09:15] <lotuspsychje> WoodyPC: better lookup your specific game, how its stores its files exactly first
[09:15] <EriC^^> Android: those are packages that have been removed but the configuration files are still there, doesn't seem to be any unconfigured or half-installed ones though
[09:15] <de-facto> Noob it shouldnt take hours, more like seconds or minutes even if the usb is slow. be carefull though you choose the correct device, i guess you dont want to format your hdd accidently...
[09:16] <EriC^^> Android: the install seems ok
[09:16] <Android> Now, installed?
[09:16] <EriC^^> Android: yes type lsb_release -a
[09:17] <Ange7> hey
[09:17] <django_> whats the best irc client
[09:17] <Ange7> i have a problem to upgrade my ubuntu :
[09:17] <Ange7> dpkg: error processing archive /var/cache/apt/archives/srvadmin-hapi_8.3.0-1_amd64.deb (--unpack):
[09:17] <Ange7>  subprocess new pre-installation script returned error exit status 127
[09:17] <Noob> Iwhat is good partition table type? Msdos?
[09:17] <lotuspsychje> django_: users choice really
[09:17] <EriC^^> django_: gui there's hexchat xchat, cli there's irssi weechat are most common
[09:17] <de-facto> django_ "the best" depends on your needs i guess
[09:17] <Ange7> how can i fix it ?
[09:17] <EriC^^> Noob: msdos is ok
[09:18] <Spookan> django_: I use Xchat and its ok. Try it out.
[09:18] <Lloyd___> de-facto: I have installed aoss, alsaplayer, mpg321 and still no sound.
[09:18] <lotuspsychje> Ange7: did you add ppa's of any kind?
[09:18] <R0binh00d> lotuspsychje, I have a 8 gigs, another one with 16 gigs, and one with 4 gigs ... I want to keep just one DE on alll
[09:18] <lotuspsychje> R0binh00d: thats plenty! use any DE you want :p
[09:18] <Ange7> lotuspsychje: huh ? i don't know ?
[09:19] <lotuspsychje> Ange7: tell us the full story please
[09:19] <Android> Cool, doesn't seems to be a change in environment though. Requires restart?
[09:19] <R0binh00d> lol
[09:19] <lotuspsychje> !details | Ange7
[09:19] <Ange7> i try to do upgrade of my server and i have one error during upgrade,
[09:19] <de-facto> Lloyd___ hmm so are you sure you got drivers for your sound device working? enabled the correct channels in alsamixer (sometimes they are muted or so)? played with pavcontrol for pulse audio?
[09:19] <Ange7> so i can't upgrade my server
[09:19] <Ange7> i don't know why
[09:19] <lotuspsychje> Ange7: wich server version to wich?
[09:20] <Ange7> ubuntu 14.04 server
[09:20] <lotuspsychje> !ltsupgrade | Ange7
[09:20] <lotuspsychje> Ange7: not advised yet to upgrade
[09:20] <Noob> Ok when this is ready i will use dd to copy/clone old usb stick to this new one. I have to umount it first
[09:20] <Ange7> i just make : apt update && apt upgrade
[09:20] <Lloyd___> de-facto I have enabled all the channels in alsamixer. What command should I use to check if the correct sound driver is installed
[09:20] <Ange7> now i have one error
[09:21] <lotuspsychje> Ange7: oh, you have server 14.04 and want to update your packages?
[09:21] <EriC^^> Noob: if you're using dd you don't need to make a partition table or anything first, dd will copy everything
[09:21] <Ange7> yes
[09:21] <lotuspsychje> Ange7: can you pastebin the full output of your update & upgrade command?
[09:21] <Ange7> sure
[09:22] <de-facto> Lloyd___ you can look for messages about sound devices in "dmesg" but i guess if you see your channels in alsamixer you already have drivers for it then
[09:22] <Noob> Lol then i did this whole thing for nothing. Well i learn something new :)
[09:22] <EriC^^> Noob: true :)
[09:23] <Ange7> lotuspsychje: http://pastebin.com/hQdPjFBQ
[09:23] <WoodyPC> lotuspsychje: I opened my Downloads/Games/"gamename" and used ctrl h and I can see the protected "savegame" directory. In my game help file it says to delete this folder. I need to know the terminal command to delete a hidden/readonly file?
[09:24] <Lloyd___> de-facto, I have looked at dmesg and it picks up the sound devices.
[09:24] <lotuspsychje> Ange7: think you have ppa's added in there...
[09:25] <de-facto> Lloyd___ ok then its some kind of config issue i guess
[09:25] <lotuspsychje> Ange7: check your sources.list and purge ppa's first before you update
[09:25] <Ange7> How can i do this ?
[09:25] <lotuspsychje> !sources | Ange7
[09:25] <Ange7> (i don't know what is ppa)
[09:25] <lotuspsychje> !ppapurge | Ange7
[09:25] <tothbbalint> Hello! I would like to ask a question about apache, I am on Ubuntu 15.04. I would like to experiment with some php project I have just cloned from Github. and it would need to generate some .xls files, but it says it has a file write permission error. I am not too familiar with linux file permissions, could you please give me some help what are the important aspects in this situation?
[09:26] <lotuspsychje> !eol | tothbbalint
[09:26] <lotuspsychje> tothbbalint: install a supported ubuntu version from topic please
[09:26] <Lloyd___> de-facto what do you suggest? The issue was from a clean install of Ubuntu 16.04. So I think another fresh install won't really fix anything.
[09:27] <Android> Anybody knows for how to expand partition without using live usb?
[09:27] <Android> partition for /home
[09:27] <Ange7> lotuspsychje: my /etc/apt/sources.list : http://pastebin.com/SFk8RpTq
[09:28] <tothbbalint> lotuspsychje thank you, I will do that, but regardless of that, could someone please help me solve this?
[09:28] <EriC^^> Android: pastebin your sudo parted -l output
[09:28] <Ange7> lotuspsychje: and in my source.list.d/ i have multiple file which contains totaly : http://pastebin.com/hDintbMa
[09:29] <de-facto> Lloyd___ not really sure i cant use my internet browser from here right now, in your place id try to google about your sound chip and play with alsamixer and pavcontrol
[09:29] <Lloyd___> de-facto Ok cool I'll keep looking. Thanks
[09:30] <Ange7> lotuspsychje: http://pastebin.com/td1emeXG
[09:30] <lotuspsychje> Ange7: you should know yourself wich ppa's youve added right, think mariadb and such?
[09:30] <Android> Take a look http://pastebin.com/R6sR6hFY .
[09:31] <lotuspsychje> Ange7: this package seems not in official repos neither srvadmin-hapi
[09:31] <Android> But it's on dual boot with wind10
[09:31] <Ange7> lotuspsychje: mariadb, rethinkdb, dell.linux,
[09:32] <lotuspsychje> Ange7: remove all those ppa's first the sudo apt update
[09:32] <lotuspsychje> then
[09:32] <Ange7> linux.dell.com.sources.list       logentries.list.save       newrelic.list                ondrej-php5-5_6-trusty.list.save  puppetlabs-pc1.list       rethinkdb.list.save
[09:32] <Ange7> linux.dell.com.sources.list.save  mongodb-org-3.2.list       newrelic.list.save           phalcon-stable-trusty.list        puppetlabs-pc1.list.save
[09:32] <Ange7> logentries.list                   mongodb-org-3.2.list.save  ondrej-php5-5_6-trusty.list  phalcon-stable-trusty.list.save   rethinkdb.list
[09:32] <EriC^^> !pastebin | Ange7
[09:32] <Ange7> lotuspsychje: i can't remove ppa ? :x
[09:32] <lotuspsychje> !ppapurge | Ange7
[09:32] <EriC^^> Android: how big is your home currently?
[09:33] <Android> 24.4 GB
[09:33] <Android> Sorry, that's for contents
[09:34] <Ange7> can't install ppa-purge cause try to upgrade srvadmin-hapi
[09:34] <EriC^^> Android: what about size?
[09:34] <EriC^^> Android: try df -h /home
[09:34] <Android> free space 2.9 GB approx.
[09:35] <Android> 29 GB
[09:35] <EriC^^> so it's about 28gb
[09:35] <Android> ya
[09:35] <EriC^^> Android: ok, i guess it's /dev/sda7 then
[09:35] <EriC^^> i think you're going to have to do it from a live usb, after backing up your stuff
[09:36] <EriC^^> Android: you need to shrink /dev/sda6 a little and move /home (sda7) back a little
[09:37] <EriC^^> wait a sec
[09:37] <EriC^^> Android: there's something very odd about your partitions
[09:37] <EriC^^> line number 14, 340-341 for swap1, then 492 to 500 for swap2
[09:37] <EriC^^> there's like 150gb space that isn't allocated
[09:37] <Ange7> lotuspsychje: how can i get the ppa name ?
[09:38] <EriC^^> Android: if you delete swap1, you could extend /home and have the 150gb
[09:38] <Android> But, /home is a subdirectory of /. Then, how is it possible.
[09:38] <Android> Means separate partitions for them.
[09:38] <WoodyPC> I need to be able to delete a "hidden/read only directory in my downloads/games directory. I used ctrl h to see it, but it is protected. Using Terminal: How do I delete this 1 directory?
[09:39] <EriC^^> Android: home is on a separate partition, it's just mounted under the other filesystem "/"
[09:39] <EriC^^> Android: if you extend /home 's partition then it'll have that much more space
[09:40] <Android> using GParted
[09:40] <Android> But there is a problem
[09:40] <EriC^^> Android: wait dont do it from a live system
[09:40] <Android> Then, use live usb?
[09:41] <EriC^^> Android: you should back up first just in case
[09:41] <EriC^^> yeah
[09:41] <EriC^^> you could do it from a live session (not using gparted though) but the backup part is essential here
[09:41] <Android> Sorry, didn't got that. That's why I'm here.
[09:41] <Tegu> modifying partitions is somewhat risky (especially shrinkin but that's not the case here)
[09:41] <EriC^^> backup your stuff in /home to somewhere else and then do it
[09:42] <EriC^^> Android: can you back it up to one of the other partitions you have? or another hdd maybe?
[09:42] <TikityTik> i'm having issues of having firefox freezing up on ubuntu
[09:42] <TikityTik> where the window doesn't respond at all
[09:42] <Android> Ok, I'm trying.
[09:42] <EriC^^> TikityTik: try running firefox from a terminal to get some feedback
[09:43] <ozberk> hi guys need help  about nvdia drivers I coudn't install it and to be honest  I have no damn idea about why
[09:43] <EriC^^> ozberk: what'd you try and what happened
[09:44] <ozberk> EriC^^, I tried to install it with standart driver installer in ubuntu yet when I click the Nvdia driver it rejected the option and throw it back to the X.Org driver option somehow
[09:45] <TikityTik> EriC^^, how? Do I have to use -g?
[09:45] <EriC^^> TikityTik: just type firefox in a terminal
[09:45] <EriC^^> TikityTik: ah nevermind, seems not to give output anymore
[09:45] <ozberk> afret that I tried to install it manually and it says too many technical details about the nouveaou driver then cancel the installation
[09:46] <EriC^^> TikityTik: try firefox -jsconsole
[09:47] <EriC^^> ozberk: try sudo ubuntu-drivers devices autoinstall
[09:47] <TikityTik> EriC^^, what should I look for?
[09:48] <EriC^^> TikityTik: any kind of errors, has it frozen yet?
[09:49] <ozberk> EriC^^, what should I do
[09:49] <TikityTik> yeah. 404 not found for some images
[09:49] <TikityTik> and some warnings
[09:51] <EriC^^> ozberk: let it install the recommended one
[09:53] <ozberk> EriC^^, I don't belive I can explain myself clear here. I tried to install recommended one but when I click the reccomended driver it's wait a while then back to the X.Org driver like nothing happened
[09:54] <ozberk> EriC^^, I can't even click the install button
[09:54] <EriC^^> ozberk: try from the terminal to see any errors
[09:54] <EriC^^> sudo ubuntu-drivers autoinstall
[09:56] <ozberk> EriC^^, I tried it downloaded a zip file from Nvdia and excract it but then the installation app told me thet it can't do the operation while the GDM is still running. I tried to run with ctrl+alt+F1 and then it worked untill it gave me another error about the nouveaou driver
[09:56] <de-facto> aaw
[09:57] <ozberk> there should be an error log yet I have no idea where it is
[09:57] <EriC^^> ozberk: try the ubuntu one in the repos first
[09:57] <EriC^^> try the command above it should say any errors
[09:57] <ozberk> EriC^^, what do you mean
[09:59] <EriC^^> ozberk: open a terminal and type sudo ubuntu-drivers autoinstall
[10:00] <ozberk> EriC^^, let me try
[10:00] <daniel__> Hello, I am on Ubuntu 14.04 LTS, I am trying to upgrade to 16.04LTS, when I do update-manager -d I get the upgrade option to 16.04 but when the banner for the upgrade shows up it says it is 16.04 development release? Isn't the final release out yet?
[10:01] <ozberk> EriC^^, it gives me some errors but they are accutaly Turkish. I'll make a pastebin file then I will translate them for you ok ?
[10:01] <daniel__> I tried different official mirrors to no avail
[10:01] <ozberk> EriC^^, give me a minute
[10:02] <EriC^^> ozberk: type LANG=C sudo ubuntu-drivers autoinstall
[10:02] <EriC^^> it'll say them in english
[10:02] <ozberk> EriC^^, seriously there is a command like that exists oh God
[10:02] <Android> Hey, done with backup. Now guide me for shrinkage.
[10:02] <de-facto> !ltsupgrade | daniel__
[10:02] <Android> But there is a problem with GParted
[10:02] <daniel__> de-facto, thank you very much, I didn't know about that
[10:03] <Android> Eric^^
[10:03] <anonymous> Hello
[10:03] <ozberk> EriC^^, GOTCHA MAKİNG THE PASTEBİN FİLE FROM UBUNTU PASTEBİN LET ME DO THİS
[10:03] <EriC^^> Android: ok, you need to unmount /home, so you're going to have to do this from the tty logged in as root (if you absolutely can't get a live usb session going)
[10:03] <ozberk> whops sorry
[10:03] <anonymous> can anyody help me?
[10:03] <de-facto> daniel__ but 16.04 is released
[10:03] <daniel__> de-facto, yes, looks like that in the web site, but I wanted an upgrade instead of new install :P
[10:03] <Guest83844> anybody?
[10:04] <Android> That asks for login.
[10:04] <Android> What's exactly that?
[10:04] <ozberk> EriC^^, http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/16344186/ here is the errors
[10:05] <Android> What to enter in login for tty4
[10:06] <EriC^^> Android: that's the login prompt, you're going to need to enable the root account temporarily to login to that, since root's home is just /root and you can have /home unmounted while using it
[10:06] <EriC^^> ozberk: ok
[10:07] <GoldCraft> so could i get some help please?
[10:07] <GoldCraft> somebodt
[10:08] <EriC^^> Android: open a terminal still in gui and type "sudo passwd"
[10:09] <EriC^^> ozberk: try LANG=C sudo apt-get install lib32gcc1
[10:09] <Android> Done
[10:09] <EriC^^> ozberk: which ubuntu are you using?
[10:09] <EriC^^> Android: ok set the root password
[10:09] <EriC^^> Android: you're using another pc right?
[10:09] <ozberk> EriC^^, ubuntu 16.04
[10:10] <ozberk> 64 bit
[10:10] <Android> another pc for what?
[10:10] <EriC^^> Android: one for chatting here one that you're doing this on?
[10:10] <EriC^^> or it's the same one?
[10:10] <EriC^^> ozberk: this seems like a fix http://askubuntu.com/questions/765448/ubuntu-16-04-nvidia-gpu-driver-can-not-use-proprietary-driver
[10:11] <EriC^^> give it a shot
[10:11] <Android> Oh ! You mean for unmounting /home ??
[10:11] <Android> Is it>
[10:11] <ozberk> hmmmmm
[10:12] <Android> I can use another pc if you say ?
[10:13] <EriC^^> Android: well you need to exit the gui and use tty1
[10:13] <Android> exit ? shut down?
[10:13] <EriC^^> you can use tty2 with irssi if you want
[10:14] <ozberk> EriC^^, ok I'm trying now I will let you know about the results but I have to say you helped me really well about this thank you. You also rescued me about this language problem with LANG=C
[10:14] <EriC^^> Android: have you ever used irssi?
[10:14] <Android> no.
[10:15] <dopstar> im using irssi now :)
[10:15] <EriC^^> Android: it's the same as other irc clients
[10:15] <vijaikumar> i like weechat :D
[10:15] <EriC^^> Android: press ctrl+alt+f2 then login as root, type apt-get install irssi then type irssi
[10:15] <EriC^^> when it loads type /server irc.freenode.net
[10:16] <Espada> Hi, how can i build qr code plz don't say search in google i don't wan't a payment service, and i want to be able to build customized qr codes. Thank you :)
[10:16] <EriC^^> then /join #ubuntu as usual, just use alt+1 alt+2 .. to switch between windows
[10:16] <TvL2386> as an update strategy, would one execute 'apt-get upgrade' or 'apt-get dist-upgrade'?
[10:17] <Espada> in the internet you have to pay for the numbers of scans for example or for how many time your code still avaible...
[10:17] <EriC^^> ozberk: ok, no problem
[10:17] <dopstar> TvL2386: dist-upgrade for your own box
[10:18] <de-facto> Espada google "github qr code library" this is not really ubuntu specific
[10:18] <dopstar> TvL2386: otherwise, still dist-upgrade (with caution), if you are nervous, rather do just update
[10:18] <OerHeks> Espada, gtqr or qreator
[10:18] <OerHeks> !inf qreator
[10:19] <OerHeks> !info qreator
[10:19] <de-facto> ah there you go, didnt know such a thing existed :P
[10:19] <TvL2386> thx dopstar
[10:20] <akik> Espada: there's also qrencode
[10:20] <Espada> i have installed qrencode
[10:20] <OerHeks> !rootirc
[10:20] <root___> Hey done
[10:20] <EriC^^> root___: ok, type /nick <newnick>
[10:21] <WoodyPC> Would like to know the Terminal command for deleting a hidden/read only directory?
[10:21] <EriC^^> root___: press ctrl+alt+f1, then login as root and type service lightdm stop
[10:21] <EriC^^> root___: press alt+f2 to get back to irssi
[10:21] <EriC^^> WoodyPC: rm -r .hiddendir
[10:21] <Espada> Thank you all
[10:22] <akik> WoodyPC: a hidden directory is just a directory with a dot in front. a read only directory is just something you don't have write permissions on
[10:22] <WoodyPC> got it. thanks
[10:22] <freekoray> hey guys
[10:22] <alex___> Hello, is there a way to find out, why my nfs4 mounts are mounted using 4.0 and not 4.1? (Xenial)
[10:23] <freekoray> i finally installed beats audio on ubuntu
[10:23] <freekoray> sound is perfect now
[10:24] <akik> freekoray: what's beats audio on ubuntu?
[10:24] <Android> Hey what that happened? After lightdm stop
[10:24] <EriC^^> Android: what do you mean?
[10:24] <Android> An error occured and I'm unable to switch back to tty
[10:25] <Android> Mouse pointer gone.
[10:25] <freekoray> akik: i meant i have installed beats audio driver on ubuntu
[10:25] <EriC^^> Android: hmm you still have gui?
[10:25] <ozberk> EriC^^, thank you now it works like a charm
[10:25] <ozberk> EriC^^, like a CHARM
[10:25] <EriC^^> ozberk: great
[10:25] <EriC^^> hehe
[10:26] <akik> freakyy: what's the package name?
[10:26] <Twirl> Hi, anyone knows if there is a way to get the php 7.0 from the official repos?
[10:26] <Twirl> because i don't want to add an unofficial ppa just for that
[10:26] <OerHeks> Twirl in what ubuntu version?
[10:26] <EriC^^> Android: is ctrl+alt+f1 and f2 still working?
[10:26] <Android> After lightdm stop command. It automatically switched to GUI and I'm unable to get back (ctlr + alt + F2) does nothing.
[10:27] <Twirl> OerHeks: 14.x
[10:27] <Android> no
[10:28] <EriC^^> Android: that's odd
[10:28] <OerHeks> Twirl,  there is no official ppa, just the ondrej ppa which is widely accepted https://launchpad.net/~ondrej/+archive/ubuntu/php
[10:29] <Android> An error occured and even mouse pointer gone. What exactly lightdm stop does?
[10:29] <Twirl> OerHeks: alright then
[10:29] <EriC^^> Android: try to restart the pc, when it starts hold shift to get grub, then press e over ubuntu and add "text" after quiet splash
[10:29] <Twirl> OerHeks: ty
[10:29] <EriC^^> Android: it should stop the display manager that launches your gui session
[10:29] <EriC^^> Android: i guess we should have done service lightdm restart
[10:30] <EriC^^> Android: anyways restart and add "text" you should boot to a tty with no lightdm
[10:30] <EriC^^> then login as root and start irssi
[10:30] <ozberk> EriC^^, your article also solved a deadly problem about the steam which could not be installed for the dependecities issues like the nvdia drivers. I tried to runs sudo apt-get install steam again . now it is installing
[10:31] <EriC^^> ozberk: cool
[10:32] <GoldCraft> anyone know how to get amd driver i need to run this command each time to start steam ): LD_PRELOAD='/usr/$LIB/libstdc++.so.6' DISPLAY=:0 steam
[10:32] <GoldCraft> i relly need the drivers so i dont need to do that
[10:32] <Ben64> have you tried the "Hardware Drivers" tool
[10:33] <GoldCraft> how
[10:33] <Ben64> what version of ubuntu are you on
[10:33] <GoldCraft> 16.04
[10:34] <Ben64> open the software center, its in one of the drop down menus
[10:34] <GoldCraft> and another thing is evry time i put my mouse into the laptop i cant move any prgorams it like freezes and when i unplug it evry thing works fine
[10:34] <Ben64> software sources -> additional drivers maybe
[10:34] <Android> Hey Eric^^ : I switched to another pc can you just repeat what to do after restart
[10:35] <zzmb> upgraded to 16.04 now audio stop working
[10:35] <Android> Please quick
[10:35] <EriC^^> Android: ok, hold shift, when you get grub press e over
[10:35] <EriC^^> ubuntu, and go to the line that says linux /boot/vmlinuz .. quiet splash and add "text"
[10:35] <EriC^^> then press ctrl+x to boot
[10:35] <GoldCraft> cant find anything with that name
[10:36] <BrAsS_mOnKeY> why is root Orc bad or anything root when not need is is a bad idea?
[10:36] <zzmb> it was working before upgrade
[10:36] <BrAsS_mOnKeY> irc*
[10:36] <EriC^^> BrAsS_mOnKeY: cause programs can have bugs/vulnerabilities and if you can get a program to do something you want with root privileges = gameover
[10:36] <EriC^^> BrAsS_mOnKeY: so when root isn't needed it's better not to use it
[10:37] <Ben64> GoldCraft: it's in there
[10:37] <EriC^^> less is more kind of thing
[10:37] <Ben64> k bye
[10:37] <Android> done
[10:37] <EriC^^> Android: ok, did it boot to tty1?
[10:37] <BrAsS_mOnKeY> meaning using sudo?
[10:38] <EriC^^> BrAsS_mOnKeY: same thing sudo is running a program as root usually
[10:38] <sexytime> if i have a user say user1. and i want to restrict this user to his home directory, i use chroot. how can i restrict this user to home directory + another directory that i can specify?
[10:38] <sexytime> i have root access to this box
[10:38] <Android> no
[10:39] <EriC^^> Android: it booted to the login screen?
[10:39] <sexytime> that user will only be restricted to his own home space and another directory
[10:39] <EriC^^> gui one?
[10:39] <Android> yes
[10:39] <EriC^^> Android: ok, np don't login
[10:39] <EriC^^> Android: press ctrl+alt+f1 and login
[10:39] <BrAsS_mOnKeY> so ry to use package-common as much as possible.
[10:40] <BrAsS_mOnKeY> try*
[10:40] <EriC^^> Android: which ubuntu version are you using?
[10:41] <Android> 16.04
[10:41] <EriC^^> Android: ok, type systemctl stop lightdm
[10:42] <BrAsS_mOnKeY> so if I'm the main operator create a guest account, EriC^^ ?
[10:42] <EriC^^> BrAsS_mOnKeY: for what purposes?
[10:42] <BrAsS_mOnKeY> to not use root.
[10:42] <EriC^^> BrAsS_mOnKeY: no use your normal user account
[10:42] <source47> hi guys, i am having some problems running update-grub inside a lxc container (ubuntu 15.10). when i run it i get i get /usr/sbin/grub-probe: error: failed to get canonical path of `/dev/sda1'.
[10:42] <BrAsS_mOnKeY> ok.
[10:43] <Android> Wait man, pressing e lets you edit commands then its still GUI and ctrl+alt+f1  does nothing
[10:43] <BrAsS_mOnKeY> so can I use Ubuntu for free for commercial use?
[10:43] <Android> here'
[10:43] <ducasse> source47: you don't need grub in a container.
[10:44] <EriC^^> Android: after you added text did you press ctrl+x ?
[10:44] <Android> added text?
[10:45] <de-facto> Android did switching with Ctrl + Alt + F1 (all at once) ever worked on that box?
[10:45] <EriC^^> Android: yeah, "text" after quiet splash
[10:46] <Android> quiet splash after e?
[10:46] <EriC^^> Android: are you in grub right now?
[10:46] <Android> Ya
[10:46] <EriC^^> ok, after quiet splash type "text"
[10:47] <Android> quiet splash ? I'm confused now.
[10:48] <EriC^^> Android: at the bottom there should be a line that says linux /boot/vmlinuz ...
[10:48] <EriC^^> is there?
[10:49] <Nene1> hello all
[10:49] <Nene1> i have a quick question
[10:50] <Nene1> Unattended Upgrades removes any packages currently installed??
[10:50] <EriC^^> you mean if it's like dist-upgrade?
[10:50] <lovetruth> hello
[10:50] <Android> Wait, I'm confused. After I entered grub, I pressed e. That takes me to a page that says set params.
[10:51] <lovetruth> I am looking for some good ERP software which: *is opensource; *uses sql; *can do document management/tracking -> preferably, using the already in use samba server as storage (already have a directory/file structure for the files...); *has some web interface; *if possible, with email notification of users that they have new document to review/approve
[10:51] <lovetruth> ubuntu server 14.04 here
[10:51] <EriC^^> Android: did you press e over ubuntu?
[10:51] <lotuspsychje> lovetruth: perhaps the #ubuntu-server channel might know something?
[10:51] <lovetruth> thx lotuspsychje  :)
[10:51] <EriC^^> Android: it should say insmod linux insmod ... then a bunch of stuff and linux and initrd at the bottom
[10:52] <Android> ya over ubuntu
[10:52] <Android> ya it's there
[10:53] <Android> insmod in between
[10:53] <EriC^^> Android: ok, go to the line that says linux /boot/vmlinuz and press ctrl+e it should take you to the end of the line
[10:53] <Nene1> Unattended Upgrades removes any packages currently installed??
[10:53] <EriC^^> Android: after quiet splash add "text" so it's quiet splash text somethingelse ..
[10:53] <Nene1> EriC^^: any idea??
[10:54] <Clever1> Hello Everyone, can anyone help me with this: http://imgur.com/GNMywQj , the shared folder is on windows and other ubuntu pc are ok when i open the shared folder.
[10:54] <Android> after "quiet splash", there is variable $something
[10:55] <Android> after that add "text"?
[10:55] <lovetruth> unfortunately, no one on ubuntu-server is answering... like they're not there?...
[10:55] <EriC^^> Android: add "text" before the $something
[10:55] <Clever1> Any help?
[10:55] <Android> done
[10:55] <EriC^^> Android: press ctrl+x
[10:56] <EriC^^> Nene1: i dont know for sure
[10:56] <Android> then
[10:56] <Clever1> Hello Everyone, can anyone help me with this: http://imgur.com/GNMywQj , the shared folder is on windows and other ubuntu pc are ok when i open the shared folder. ??
[10:56] <Android> GUI login screen
[10:56] <lotuspsychje> !patience | Clever1
[10:56] <Android> oh got that
[10:57] <EriC^^> Nene1: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticSecurityUpdates
[10:57] <Clever1> ubottu i dont know how can i search that problem mate
[10:57] <Android> now in tty2
[10:57] <EriC^^> Android: ok cool
[10:57] <EriC^^> Android: type systemctl stop lightdm
[10:57] <EriC^^> login as root only dont use your username
[10:59] <Android> done
[10:59] <EriC^^> Android: ok, now unmount the /home partition
[10:59] <EriC^^> Android: umount /home
[10:59] <Android> done
[10:59] <EriC^^> Android: make sure it's not there anymore
[11:00] <EriC^^> type df -h it shouldn't be in the list
[11:00] <EriC^^> or lsblk
[11:00] <Nene1> thanks EriC^^
[11:00] <Android> yo
[11:00] <EriC^^> Nene1: no problem
[11:00] <Android> now
[11:00] <EriC^^> Android: all gone?
[11:01] <Android> no
[11:01] <EriC^^> Android: did it say anything after umount /home ?
[11:01] <Android> no
[11:01] <Android> "/dev/sda6" present
[11:01] <EriC^^> Android: where?
[11:01] <EriC^^> in df -h ?
[11:02] <Android> but that's the root "/" directory
[11:02] <Android> np
[11:02] <EriC^^> yeah
[11:02] <EriC^^> sda7 is home
[11:02] <Android> now
[11:02] <hugo> good morning.
[11:02] <EriC^^> so /home isn't in df -h?
[11:03] <Android> yeah
[11:03] <EriC^^> Android: ok, type cfdisk /dev/sda
[11:03] <EriC^^> Android: first type parted /dev/sda unit B print | nc termbin.com 9999
[11:03] <EriC^^> and paste the link here, it'll be good in case the proverbial hits the fan
[11:04] <Android> No internet connectivity on that system now. I was connected with sonicwall that requires authentication.
[11:05] <EriC^^> Android: ok, np type "parted /dev/sda unit B print > /var/pt.backup"
[11:05] <Android> Btw, I typed cfdisk /dev/sda
[11:06] <Android> entered into partition table.
[11:06] <Android> Now exit?
[11:06] <EriC^^> Android: yeah press q
[11:06] <lovetruth> one of the most important requirements for the erp software is to be able to do tracking (where the doc is)/review (view and change something if needed, with any software the user chooses - this is why the ERP should have cifs/samba support for file storage, with directory structure of documents chosen by me)/approval (view and eventually send/etc the document). I should be able to set some serial workflow for the document, user-ba
[11:07] <hugo> I'm trying to install open babel but I keep getting this error: http://paste.ubuntu.com/16344888/
[11:08] <lotuspsychje> hugo: why not installing the one from repos?
[11:08] <OerHeks> !info openbabel
[11:08] <OerHeks> on their site: Open Babel (currently 2.3.1)
[11:08] <OerHeks> so get ours :-D
[11:08] <lovetruth> like: document created on samba server, folder X/y/Z. User A notified, has to review. User A finnished, User B notified. User B now reviews... etc, User C, etc. Some admin users can view at least where the document is, where the workflow stoped, etc...
[11:08] <hugo> oh, perhaps that's easier. dumb me xD
[11:08] <hugo> thanks
[11:09] <lotuspsychje> lovetruth: there is also a #samba channel if you like
[11:10] <OerHeks> lovetruth, do you have an actual question?
[11:10] <Android_> Sorry, I got disconnected.
[11:10] <EriC^^> Android_: no problem
[11:11] <EriC^^> Android: type "parted /dev/sda unit B print > /var/pt.backup"
[11:11] <Android_> done'
[11:11] <Android_> now?
[11:11] <EriC^^> then type cat /var/pt.backup to see if the info is tehre
[11:11] <Android_> done
[11:11] <EriC^^> ok
[11:11] <EriC^^> cool
[11:11] <EriC^^> type cfdisk /dev/sda
[11:12] <EriC^^> then delete the home partition
[11:12] <Android_> opens partition table
[11:12] <EriC^^> as well as the first linux swap that's 1gb
[11:12] <Android_> sda7 i think?
[11:12] <EriC^^> yeah
[11:12] <Android_> done
[11:12] <EriC^^> also delete sda8
[11:13] <EriC^^> your swap is 8gb right?
[11:13] <EriC^^> the one you're using right now?
[11:13] <Android_> done
[11:13] <Android_> ya
[11:13] <Android_> sda5
[11:13] <Android_> now?
[11:14] <Android_> done now?
[11:14] <EriC^^> Android_: ok recreate the /home partition
[11:15] <EriC^^> press enter for the starting sector
[11:15] <Android_> donw'
[11:15] <EriC^^> and keep pressing enter, hex code 83 press enter
[11:15] <EriC^^> then write and exit
[11:16] <Android_> wait to recreate partition enter on "free space (170G)"
[11:16] <Android_> ?
[11:16] <EriC^^> press enter
[11:17] <Android_> yea
[11:17] <Android_> now?
[11:17] <EriC^^> write the table
[11:17] <Android_> how/
[11:17] <EriC^^> press write
[11:18] <Android_> no option
[11:18] <Android_> shows Partition size 170G
[11:18] <EriC^^> ok at the bottom it should say write somewhere
[11:19] <Android_> did it but says partition table altered
[11:20] <Android_> after write and typed yes to confirm
[11:20] <EriC^^> Android_: ok, exit cfdisk
[11:20] <EriC^^> Android_: type partprobe
[11:21] <Android_> error
[11:21] <EriC^^> what error
[11:22] <Android_> Partitions 8 on sda have been written but unable to inform kernel
[11:22] <Android_> as they may be in use
[11:23] <Android_> Suggests to reboot at the end line
[11:23] <Android_> before making further changes.
[11:23] <EriC^^> hm
[11:23] <Android_> But I don't think that's required
[11:24] <EriC^^> type lsblk | grep SWAP
[11:24] <akik> Android_: i've never been able to re-read the partition table if / is mounted off that disk and make changes to the partitions
[11:24] <Clever1> EriC^^ do you have any idea how to solve this: http://imgur.com/GNMywQj
[11:24] <EriC^^> akik: i've always been able to, til now
[11:25] <Android_> shows sda 1,2,3,5,6,8
[11:25] <Android_> What the hell is that>
[11:25] <EriC^^> what
[11:25] <EriC^^> Android_: type lsblk
[11:25] <EriC^^> what does it say next to [SWAP]
[11:26] <EriC^^> Clever1: i think you need the password?
[11:26] <Android_> next to swap?
[11:26] <EriC^^> yeah
[11:27] <Android_> there are two [swap] enteries under Mount Point
[11:27] <EriC^^> aha
[11:27] <EriC^^> so sda8 was in use
[11:27] <EriC^^> :/
[11:27] <Android_> What that causes?
[11:27] <EriC^^> ok, type swapoff -a
[11:28] <EriC^^> i'd think nothing
[11:28] <Android_> done
[11:28] <Android_> now?
[11:28] <EriC^^> if it attempts to write to that region your /home filesystem isn't extended to there yet
[11:28] <EriC^^> ok, try partprobe again
[11:28] <Android_> done
[11:28] <Android_> now>
[11:29] <EriC^^> Android_: ok, now run a fsck on home
[11:29] <EriC^^> what's the name of the partition now?
[11:29] <paul98> i was upgrading from 15.10 to 16.4, i done a yum update /upgrade then run sudo update-manager -d and run it through that, half way through i closed the terminal down and now the package manager has hung half way through upgrading packages
[11:30] <Ben64> paul98: yum?
[11:30] <Android_> type fsck?
[11:30] <EriC^^> Android_: e2fsck -f /dev/sdaX
[11:30] <paul98> yes
[11:30] <EriC^^> type lsblk to get the name of it
[11:31] <Ben64> paul98: you're aware that Ubuntu doesn't use yum?
[11:31] <Android_> No such file
[11:31] <paul98> oh man
[11:31] <paul98> i meant apt-get
[11:31] <OerHeks> Clever1, nice, you are on windows or mac, seeing xlite voip client :-D .. so the fix is, join ##windows op the apple channel
[11:31] <paul98> i need to change servers to ubunutu to make it easier! i run centos servers and ubuntu desktops! :(
[11:31] <EriC^^> Android_: type lsblk and get the name of the new home partition, it should be 170gb
[11:31] <EriC^^> sda6 sda7 etc
[11:32] <EriC^^> then use it in e2fsck -f /dev/sd..
[11:32] <Android_> nothing of size 170 GB
[11:32] <Android_> 5 partitions
[11:33] <Android_> and one rom
[11:33] <EriC^^> hmm which is the home you'd think?
[11:34] <paul98> i was upgrading from 15.10 to 16.4, i done a apt-get  update /upgrade then run sudo update-manager -d and run it through that, half way through i closed the terminal down and now the package manager has hung half way through upgrading packages
[11:34] <paul98> thats better! :)
[11:34] <Android_> I'm bit confused but home was on sda 7, but deleted, now five partitions and none appear to be home
[11:34] <EriC^^> Android_: did you recreate it?
[11:34] <EriC^^> Android_: type cfdisk /dev/sda
[11:35] <Android_> now?
[11:35] <EriC^^> yeah
[11:35] <Android_> sda 1,2,3,4,5,6
[11:35] <EriC^^> ok any 170gb ones
[11:36] <Android_> free space (170 G),
[11:36] <EriC^^> which one?
[11:36] <EriC^^> oh free space
[11:36] <EriC^^> ok press new on that
[11:36] <EriC^^> and create a partition
[11:37] <Android_> size?
[11:37] <EriC^^> press enter
[11:38] <Android_> what was the previous size?
[11:38] <EriC^^> 20something gb
[11:38] <Android_> I created 40 Gb now
[11:38] <EriC^^> ok
[11:39] <Android_> that says failed to parse size
[11:39] <EriC^^> type "40G"
[11:39] <Android_> done
[11:39] <EriC^^> you're going to use the rest of the space for another distro or something similar?
[11:40] <Android_> Did not decide yet
[11:41] <EriC^^> ok, cool you'll have 130gb to do something with later
[11:41] <Android_> ok
[11:41] <EriC^^> after you're done press on type
[11:41] <EriC^^> and type 83
[11:41] <EriC^^> then write the changes and exit
[11:42] <Android_> done
[11:42] <Android_> I think its done?
[11:42] <EriC^^> yeah, type partprobe
[11:42] <EriC^^> then lsblk
[11:42] <ubuntuguy> Hi
[11:43] <Android_> done
[11:43] <Android_> shows that
[11:43] <EriC^^> ok
[11:43] <Android_> reboot now?
[11:43] <EriC^^> no
[11:43] <EriC^^> btw i think it was 30gb before, not 20-ish in case it makes a difference with you
[11:44] <Android_> np
[11:44] <EriC^^> ok, type e2fsck -f /dev/sdaX
[11:44] <EriC^^> replace X with the name you got from lsblk
[11:45] <Android_> says mounted cant continue
[11:45] <Android_> aborting
[11:45] <EriC^^> which name did you use?
[11:45] <Android_> unmount that
[11:45] <Android_> ?
[11:46] <EriC^^> no nothing is mounted i think
[11:46] <Android_> name was not just sda7 but somethingsda7
[11:47] <Android_> does it requires full name
[11:47] <EriC^^> it's /dev/sda7 ?
[11:47] <EriC^^> if it's /dev/sda7 then e2fsck -f /dev/sda7
[11:47] <EriC^^> it shouldn't be mounted in lsblk
[11:47] <Android_> says mounted
[11:47] <EriC^^> the stuff to the far right are any mountpoints
[11:49] <Android_> if you type lsblk, it shows Mountpoint "part /home"
[11:49] <Android_> for sda7
[11:49] <EriC^^> hmm
[11:49] <EriC^^> ok type umount /home
[11:49] <Android_> done
[11:49] <EriC^^> try the command again
[11:49] <Android_> done
[11:50] <Android_> now done?
[11:50] <EriC^^> resize2fs /dev/sda7
[11:51] <Android_> can't uder VT100 emulation
[11:51] <ubuntuguy> Is there a mate room ?
[11:51] <Android_> *under
[11:51] <ubuntuguy> Had issues wit mate desktop
[11:51] <Android_> set window size
[11:51] <Android_> now/
[11:51] <Android_>  please a little quick man
[11:52] <Android_> now>
[11:53] <EriC^^> Android_: i've no idea
[11:53] <EriC^^> i'm asking in ##linux cause google hasn't much results
[11:53] <OerHeks> ubuntuguy, #ubuntu-mate
[11:53] <bobby_> hi iam new to chat box
[11:54] <lotuspsychje> bobby_: you joined the ubuntu support channel
[11:54] <Android_> It's basically for resizing thepartition right?
[11:54] <sbine> you're welcome bobby_
[11:54] <bobby_> thanks
[11:55] <Android_> What if I don't?
[11:55] <bobby_> so what do we do over hear
[11:55] <Android_> Or you have no idea?
[11:55] <Android_> Where have you gone man??
[11:55] <lotuspsychje> bobby_: this channel is for ubuntu questions
[11:55] <OerHeks> bobby_, tiPp: read the topic of the channel, this is ubuntu support
[11:56] <EriC^^> Android_: you dont what?
[11:56] <sbine> Here that's speak about ubuntu, like lotuspsychje tell you bobby_
[11:56] <bobby_> okey
[11:56] <Android_> resize
[11:56] <de-facto> i dont understand why it woudl need something else than vt100... maybe you coudl trick it with something like export TERM=xterm into thinking it does not run under vt100?
[11:56] <bobby_> i got it
[11:56] <EriC^^> Android_: home will still be 30gb as it was
[11:57] <EriC^^> Android_: type blkid
[11:57] <EriC^^> Android_: you need to remove the line for the extra swap you had since it's deleted now
[11:57] <EriC^^> you need to remove it from /etc/fstab
[11:57] <bobby_> i have some tech problem while doing programming in arduino Uo
[11:57] <BluesKaj> Howdy folks
[11:58] <Android> Sorry got disconnect but saying that is it really required to resize e2fs
[11:58] <bazhang> ##programming bobby_
[11:58] <Android> ??
[11:58] <EriC^^> Android: type "blkid"
[11:58] <Android> done
[11:58] <bobby_> okey i got solution
[11:59] <EriC^^> Android: ok, there should be a line that says type=swap
[11:59] <Android> ya
[11:59] <EriC^^> Android: that uuid is for the swap, you need to type nano /etc/fstab
[11:59] <EriC^^> and put a "#" before the line pertaining to swap that ISN'T that uuid
[11:59] <Android> done
[11:59] <Guest81940> hi
[11:59] <EriC^^> done what
[12:00] <Guest81940> i find that i cannot install matlab to xubuntu 16.04
[12:00] <EriC^^> de-facto: yeah, it's odd :/
[12:00] <Guest81940> any one can help me ?
[12:00] <Android> after last cmd it shows two swaps
[12:00] <EriC^^> de-facto: i can't find any errors like it on google either O.
[12:00] <EriC^^> O.o
[12:01] <bazhang> !info matlab
[12:01] <Android> cmd : nano etc/something
[12:01] <Android> now?
[12:01] <Android> I shows two swaps
[12:01] <EriC^^> Android: it should show only 1..
[12:01] <Guest81940> but there are no problem in 14.04
[12:01] <EriC^^> Android: ok type lsblk , which one is 8gb?
[12:02] <Android> exit how>
[12:02] <Android> ??
[12:02] <EriC^^> ctrl+x
[12:02] <Android> sda5
[12:03] <Android> 7.9
[12:03] <Android> g
[12:03] <Android> now?
[12:03] <Android> ya thats one hete
[12:03] <Android> *here'
[12:04] <Android> if sda5 is the only one
[12:04] <hellknight> is the support for ZFS on Ubuntu 16.04 production ready?
[12:04] <bobby_> can i get matlab 32 bit any version plz
[12:04] <ducasse> hellknight: yes
[12:04] <hellknight> I'm thinking of deploying to one of our backup servers.
[12:05] <hellknight> ducasse: that's great.
[12:05] <ducasse> hellknight: fully supported.
[12:05] <Android> hey that says swap was on sd8
[12:05] <Android> nano cmd
[12:05] <hellknight> currently we have FreeBSD 10 installed on that server. Will move it to 16.04 as soon as our team agrees on it
[12:06] <OerHeks> bobby_, tutorial: https://www.quora.com/How-do-I-download-and-install-MATLAB-on-Ubuntu-14-04
[12:06] <Android> where have you gone man?
[12:06] <Android> ??
[12:06] <akik> ducasse: can you put your root fs on zfs?
[12:06] <OerHeks> our wikipage is down https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MATLAB
[12:06] <hellknight> akik: I think that we need to create a separate /boot for that. I may be wrong
[12:06] <ducasse> akik: not out of the box.
[12:06] <de-facto> Android what exactly was the error you got or your resize2fs command?
[12:07] <akik> ducasse: ok so it's not as fully supported that i'd wish
[12:07] <ducasse> akik: it's not supported in the installer, no.
[12:07] <EriC^^> Android: ok, so sda5 is swap
[12:07] <EriC^^> Android: type blkid /dev/sda5
[12:07] <Android> donew
[12:08] <EriC^^> get the uuid, and type nano /etc/fstab and put a "#" before the line that has swap in it and doesn't have that uuid
[12:09] <Android> none as such but ya it shows one swap on sda8
[12:09] <bobby_> OerHeks thanks man
[12:09] <Android> Sense ambiguous
[12:10] <Android> put a #?
[12:10] <bobby_> OerHeks_i will check it out
[12:10] <EriC^^> Android: i just tried it on a usb i have, creating a smaller partition, making it bigger, and running resize2fs from tty1 logged in as root and it worked
[12:10] <EriC^^> so it's kind of odd
[12:10] <EriC^^> 16.04 here as well
[12:10] <bobby_> OerHeks_, i will check it out
[12:11] <OerHeks> bobby_, i remember 32-bit is the only version available to students, but maybe it is available now
[12:11] <Android> I see sda8. Now that's odd
[12:11] <EriC^^> nothing on google that's remotely similar either
[12:11] <Android> Deleted sda8 then how possible?
[12:11] <Myrkur> could someone give me a hand with my sftp configuration ?
[12:11] <EriC^^> Android: in /etc/fstab are there 2 swap entries?
[12:12] <Android> yeaahhhhhh
[12:12] <Android> Now?
[12:12] <EriC^^> Android: ok, the one that doesn't have the uuid you saw for sda5
[12:12] <EriC^^> put a "#" before it
[12:12] <EriC^^> then press ctrl+o to save
[12:12] <bobby_> OerHeks_, what i got to know is 32 bit still bugs are running
[12:12] <Android> both swaps have a uuid
[12:13] <Android> lol
[12:13] <Android> Is it odd?
[12:13] <Android> UUID is for what>
[12:13] <Android> ??
[12:13] <Android> purpose I mean.
[12:14] <auronandace> Android: it is a unique identifying number to correspond to a partition
[12:14] <Android> Oh then that's amibuous.
[12:14] <Android> Nee*ambiguous
[12:15] <ubuntu841> Hii frineds !!
[12:15] <Android> Where are you man?
[12:15] <auronandace> Android: do you know what ambigous means?
[12:15] <Android> lol
[12:15] <Android> it's ambiguous
[12:16] <ubuntu841> some numbers are comming after booting the machine .. I had resqued grub but I am not able to start my machine
[12:16] <ubuntu841> there is no grub prompt .. instead some no. are displaying
[12:16] <Android> Btw, hey just resolve this issue and I think I am done
[12:16] <Android> Please quick I've got a few minutes left.
[12:17] <Android> aaja bhai
[12:17] <auronandace> Android: telling people to be quick is less likely to get you any help, everyone here is a volunteer
[12:18] <ubuntu841> Android ,auronandace are u talking with me ?
[12:18] <EriC^^> Android: ok it's simple
[12:18] <EriC^^> the uuid is used to know which swap to use
[12:19] <EriC^^> the uuid that corresponds to /dev/sda5 's leave it
[12:19] <EriC^^> the other uuid, put a "#" before it so it's not used anymore
[12:19] <Android> # before uuid sure?
[12:19] <EriC^^> yes
[12:19] <EriC^^> #uuid=37492874923
[12:20] <cyclist_2> Hi, there! I am having a hard time getting vnstat to change the day the month rotates; I already addressed the issue on the configuration file, but it is not working as intended [it continues to treat day 1 as the start of the month, when I want to set a different day]; Is anyone here with knowledge to share about this subject?
[12:20] <lovetruth> OerHeks: yes, I do have an actual question. :) i was gone, sorry for late answering... my question is just above that text... :)
[12:20] <EriC^^> not the uuid of /dev/sda5 which you got before, as i said
[12:20] <lovetruth> here it is: I am looking for some good ERP software which: *is opensource; *uses sql; *can do document management/tracking -> preferably, using the already in use samba server as storage (already have a directory/file structure for the files...); *has some web interface; *if possible, with email notification of users that they have new document to review/approve
[12:20] <Android> done
[12:20] <EriC^^> Android: ok, press ctrl+o to save, then ctrl+x to exit
[12:20] <Android> done
[12:21] <EriC^^> and type mount -a to test if the swap is being used right and /home is being mounted
[12:21] <EriC^^> try mount -a , then swapon -a
[12:21] <EriC^^> then type lsblk you should see a [SWAP] and /home under mountpoints
[12:22] <Android> ya
[12:22] <EriC^^> can somebody be kind enough to send the first few letters of the /etc/shadow for root?
[12:23] <EriC^^> Android: ok right now the /home has been extended as a partition but the filesystem is still just 30gb, so you need to use a live usb and run resize2fs /dev/sd.. on it to get full use of it
[12:24] <blackwolf> is that possible to set ubuntu background with feh?
[12:24] <EriC^^> Android: we'll disable the root account
[12:24] <akik> EriC^^: by default there is no password for root it's just !
[12:24] <OerHeks> lovetruth, not sure which one, maybe this url is any help http://www.linuxlinks.com/article/20091129070817552/ERP.html
[12:24] <EriC^^> akik: just root:!:...
[12:24] <EriC^^> ?
[12:24] <akik> EriC^^: yes
[12:24] <auronandace> blackwolf: yes, i use it with i3
[12:25] <EriC^^> akik: ok, thanks
[12:25] <EriC^^> Android: type exit
[12:25] <EriC^^> then log in as your normal user
[12:25] <Android> why can't I use 40gb
[12:25] <EriC^^> from tty1
[12:25] <EriC^^> Android: cause there's a weird error about using resize2fs from tty1
[12:25] <blackwolf> auronandace: what should someone do to background be permanent?
[12:25] <lovetruth> OerHeks: the site got me this error: ERR_CONNECTION_TIMED_OUT
[12:26] <auronandace> blackwolf: i put mine in my .profile
[12:26] <EriC^^> Android: try it again from a live usb
[12:26] <django_> hey all
[12:26] <Myrkur> hey
[12:26] <django_> id like a command that opens up a file.py in sublime text3
[12:26] <Android> oh god! means I wasted 3 hours
[12:26] <Myrkur> where could I find help about sftp
[12:26] <Android> ??
[12:27] <Myrkur> I mean sshd_config with sftp
[12:27] <Android> I dont' have a live usb that's why I was here. Now?
[12:27] <Myrkur> I'm sorry Android ?
[12:27] <Android> Not any other way?
[12:28] <EriC^^> Android: no, it's pretty much done, the partition is extended already and swap deleted etc. all you need to do is run resize2fs on it
[12:28] <Myrkur> ok sorry
[12:28] <EriC^^> Android: did you exit yet
[12:28] <Android> no
[12:28] <EriC^^> ok
[12:29] <EriC^^> so still logged in as root?
[12:29] <Android> Ya
[12:29] <EriC^^> try umount /home
[12:29] <Android> done'
[12:29] <EriC^^> then resize2fs /dev/sd.. for home
[12:29] <EriC^^> and type the error you get word for word
[12:29] <FManTropyx> howdy
[12:30] <GnomeKris> So I have an ntfs hdd in my pc that I'd like to make ext4. I don't have enough room anywhere else for the data that's on the drive. How can I go about doing this?
[12:30] <Android> resize: Can't set window size under VT100 emulation.
[12:30] <auronandace> GnomeKris: any free space left on that drive itself?
[12:30] <GnomeKris> Plenty
[12:31] <GnomeKris> I could triplicate all the data and still have space
[12:31] <Android> does that makes the error clear
[12:31] <Android> ?
[12:31] <auronandace> GnomeKris: then you can shrink the current partition on it and make a new partition then transfer the data from one to the other
[12:31] <ohadb> Hello. I am having problem with using nested ssh session. what does it mean? I have a machine (A) that has ssh access to another machine (B) that has ssh access to another machine (C). I need machine A to perform an operation on C. I need to do it in a script. non interactively. can anyone advise?
[12:31] <EriC^^> Android: are you typing resize2fs or resize!?
[12:32] <GnomeKris> That makes sense. I'll give it a shot.
[12:32] <GnomeKris> Thanks
[12:32] <Android> resize e2fs
[12:32] <EriC^^> Android: it's one word
[12:32] <EriC^^> resize2fs
[12:34] <source47> hi guys, i am getting timedatectl command not running on ubuntu 15.10 in lxc. its giving Failed to create bus connection: No such file or directory
[12:35] <source47> any ideas?
[12:35] <source47> i have systemctl working
[12:35] <source47> and there is a binary timedatectl
[12:35] <ikonia> they are two very different commands for different purposes
[12:36] <source47> k
[12:36] <source47> ikonia: i need timedatectl working basically
[12:37] <ikonia> source47: you're using a container, the time will probably be set from the host
[12:37] <ikonia> what is it exactly you are trying to ?
[12:37] <source47> ikonia: i am running 'timedatectl'
[12:37] <ikonia> yes, I understand that
[12:37] <source47> it works fine on a ubuntu 16.04 container
[12:37] <ikonia> but why - what is your end goal
[12:38] <ikonia> ahh 16.10
[12:38] <ikonia> 15.10
[12:38] <ikonia> sorry - I missed that
[12:38] <source47> my end goal is to have it run on 15.10
[12:38] <source47> like it does everywhere else
[12:38] <ikonia> are you basically trying to set the system time/date ?
[12:39] <antonio_> wow mates good
[12:39] <source47> i just need to run it. its part of a base install for an application stack.
[12:39] <source47> so short answer, i need that running.
[12:39] <ikonia> source47: you just run it then
[12:39] <ikonia> it will error - but what do you care, if you just need to run it
[12:39] <source47> then i get "Failed to create bus connection: No such file or directory"
[12:39] <ikonia> correct, but who cares, you just need to run it, that is a run and it will move on
[12:40] <source47> ok, i need to run it *normally*
[12:40] <source47> i care :-)
[12:41] <ikonia> is dbus running ?
[12:41] <antonio_> test
[12:42] <goof> the command "bash" returns "/home/user/newfolder: no such file or directory" - how can I remove this directory from the bash listing?
[12:43] <ikonia> look at your .bashrc and .bash_profile
[12:43] <source47> nope. i cant find it running: ps -ef | grep dbus | grep -v grep
[12:43] <source47> how can i run it?
[12:43] <ikonia> source47: so there is your problem
[12:43] <antonio_> test again
[12:43] <source47> isnt it there on a default install of ubuntu 15.10 ?
[12:43] <ikonia> source47: it's not just about 15.10
[12:43] <ikonia> the host also matters
[12:44] <source47> how do u mean?
[12:44] <mcphail> antonio_: please don't use this room for tests. This is the Ubuntu supoort channel
[12:44] <mcphail> *support
[12:44] <goof> ikonia: thanks .bashrc worked
[12:44] <ikonia> source47: found a bug for you https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/systemd/+bug/1477130
[12:45] <source47> ikonia: thanks. i saw that alraedy
[12:48] <source47> ok nm. it works. had to apt-get install dbus for some reason
[12:54] <GnomeKris> I was unaware that it would take forever and a day to resize an ntfs partition...
[12:59] <auronandace> GnomeKris: the bigger they are and the more data on it the longer it will take
[13:00] <GnomeKris> auronandace, I guessed as much. It's a 360ish gb hdd with about 140gb data
[13:00] <GnomeKris> all steam games
[13:03] <GnomeKris> So, with 14.04, can I cycle through workspaces from 1>2>3>1>2 or back like 3>2>1>3>2, using the ctrl+alt+arrow keys? Because so far, it stops at either end, and I'd rather just keep rolling through.
[13:03] <goof> I have an xsession error "/usr/sbin/lightdm-session: 29: .: Can't open /home/g/torch/install/bin/torch-activate" - how can I fix this without installing torch?
[13:03] <OerHeks> GnomeKris, hold the windows key for shortkeys
[13:04] <ikonia> goof: make the file ?
[13:04] <goof> ikonia: the directory exists
[13:04] <ikonia> goof: it'a file
[13:04] <ikonia> it's trying to open the file
[13:05] <GnomeKris> OerHeks, I'm not sure what you mean, but I've just tried a few different things with the windows key, none of which produced the results I am looking for.
[13:05] <goof> ikonia: how can I make that?
[13:05] <ikonia> it's a file
[13:05] <ikonia> just touch it
[13:06] <ikonia> although why won't you use torch ?
[13:06] <OerHeks> GnomeKris, i read 'ctrl + alt + arrow keys' to move beween them
[13:06] <OerHeks> and keeps rolling, there is no such option
[13:07] <GnomeKris> There needs to be that option, for those of us who use static workspaces.
[13:07] <GnomeKris> I only ever need three at max. So I turn it to static, and would like to be able to just cycle through in a continuous loop...
[13:08] <curlyears> mronin, peeps
[13:08] <curlyears> *moan*  I have computer headaches again
[13:09] <OerHeks> GnomeKris, i think you need to write a script yourself with xdotool or wmctrl > http://askubuntu.com/questions/377901/auto-switch-workspaces
[13:09] <Optiprism> What does the .d stand for? For example in init.d
[13:09] <curlyears> I was ytping a message into IRC yesterday morning, and my keyboard and mouse just died.  I finally figured out thaat the 5V fuse for my rear USB ports mush have blown, because now that I'm plugged into thefront USB ports, thiungs light up and work
[13:10] <OerHeks> Optiprism, deamon
[13:10] <Optiprism> Oh I see
[13:10] <GnomeKris> If I could, I would. I have no idea where to even begin with that. Thanks though OerHeks.
[13:10] <OerHeks> GnomeKris, there are 2 examples, edit them to your situation?
[13:11] <GnomeKris> I'm looking at them now. I may be able to do something with them, with enough time and research. haha
[13:12] <curlyears> in any case, I tried to boot into 16.04 Live-DVD mode, and kept getting this weird error message:  mumMR not foudn  error reading hd0 and then it would dump me into a grub prompt.  After hitting reset 4 or 5 times, it successfully started a cli sesseion which allowed me to get into Liive-DVD, so here I am wondering what happened?
[13:13] <curlyears> Are there known problems with the desktop 16.04 iso, or is this something unique to me?
[13:13] <auronandace> curlyears: how old is this computer your trying to use? sounds like you got hardware issues
[13:14] <curlyears> auronandace: I built it fromo brand new parts purc hased at tigerdirect in august.  worked just fine until late December, when all this trouvble started
[13:15] <curlyears> it's an 8 core FX8300 AMD64 processor chip, 24GB RAM, 3.4TB HDD, and a BluRay rewritable
[13:16] <curlyears> snd just for the information of it, no, the 16.04 iso is not written on a BlueRay disc, it's written on a normal DVD rewritable
[13:17] <auronandace> curlyears: wow, that is a beefy system. sometimes using brand new hardware like that you'll need to wait till the support for drivers and such make it though to the kernel development
[13:18] <curlyears> auronandace: yeah, but for example the Gigabyte tech informed me when I was seeking tech support for my MB that this MB is an older model,  no longer sold.
[13:19] <curlyears> the latest update for the BIOS flash firmware is dated mi-2013
[13:19] <auronandace> curlyears: an older model motherboard that supports 24gb of ram? that doesn't quite add up to me
[13:19] <curlyears> 3013 isn't THAAT old
[13:19] <curlyears> 2013
[13:20] <auronandace> i agree
[13:20] <curlyears> in any case networking and video seem to be stable under 16.04 (so far) so that's good news
[13:21] <curlyears> I have this much "beef" because I am going to be doing a .lot of 3D CAD in supporrt of my 3D printer
[13:22] <tapacenbal> i, Is a NVMe SSD bottlenecked with a 16 PCI-E lanes CPU ?
[13:22] <akik> curlyears: you mentioned that you thought usb connectors were non-working. maybe you should investigate that further?
[13:22] <amundsen> hi
[13:23] <amundsen> i'm not being able to watch youtube videos in ubuntu 16.04. does anybody know why this could happen ?
[13:23] <OerHeks> tapacenbal, that is more a question for #hardware
[13:24] <tapacenbal> cannot talk there
[13:24] <OerHeks> amundsen, did you install restricted extras for codecs and flash and such?
[13:24] <curlyears> \akik:  like I said, neither kb nor mouse light up or work when plugged into rear panel USB ports.  When I plug them into the front panel USB ports, the light up and work.   NOTE:  this failure, whatever it is, happened while I was running and typing
[13:24] <OerHeks> !register | tapacenbal
[13:24] <OerHeks> some channels needs registering your name
[13:24] <tapacenbal> ok thanks
[13:25] <akik> curlyears: try inserting an usb stick into the rear ports and check kernel log (dmesg) if there's a problem
[13:25] <beginner_> hi, i'm trying ubuntu 16.04 on a machine with an rtl8192se (version B, i think) wireless card. connection with my AP is established, dns/gateway/etc. is set correctly, a correct ip is assigned (dhcp works), but i cannot ping the AP, nor anything but localhost ... i've been using 14.04 before (and other distros), all kernel 3.x - no problem at all with those.
[13:25] <amundsen> OerHeks, yes i did
[13:25] <beginner_> any idea what might be wrong?
[13:26] <beginner_> issues with linux 4.x maybe?
[13:26] <GnomeKris> I just installed unity-tweak-tool and gnome-tweak-tool via sudo apt-get install, and neither one shows up in my dash? It did prompt me to switch display managers during the install, is that the problem? Because I'm still using GDM, should I have switched to LightDM?
[13:27] <ikonia> beginner_: why do you think it's a kernel problem ?
[13:27] <ikonia> there is nothing in what you've sasid that even suggests the kernel
[13:27] <curlyears> hmm... when I plug a USB stick in there, it shows up on my launch bar
[13:28] <curlyears> strange.  I am booted under 16.04 Live-Dvd, but a uname -a shows its  is runnung under 14.04
[13:28] <ikonia> curlyears: explain
[13:29] <curlyears> ikonia: explain what, exactly?
[13:29] <ikonia> how you think it's 14.04 from uname -a
[13:32] <curlyears> ikonia: output from uname -a:  Linux ubuntu 4.2.0-27-generic #32~14.04.1-Ubuntu SMP Fri Jan 22 15:32:26 UTC 2016 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[13:32] <beginner_> ikonia: wildly guessing, since this is the first 4.x kernel i've run on the machine. as i said, all the older distros had no problems and they were all 3.x
[13:33] <GnomeKris> Do I have to switch to LightDM in order to use unity tweak tool?
[13:33] <ikonia> curlyears: that's 16.05
[13:33] <ikonia> 04
[13:33] <ikonia> beginner_: so wild guessing isn't helpful - if you don't know, don't guess, just ask
[13:34] <ikonia> beginner_: it's more likley icmp is being blocked at a firewall
[13:34] <curlyears> then why this string: 14.04.1-Ubuntu
[13:34] <Pici> curlyears: the 14.04 in that doesn't have anything to do with the release you're currently running. its just a version identifier for the kernel build itself. (also 14.04 didn't ship with a 4.2.x kernel)
[13:34] <MrKeuner> hi, how can I list packages that doesn't get security updates?
[13:34] <ikonia> curlyears: build host
[13:34] <curlyears> somewhat misleading, to say the least
[13:35] <curlyears> OK, so I was mistaken on that.  My USB issue remains valid
[13:35] <beginner_> ikonia: shouldn't that affect others machines, too? no problems so far, multiple devices, multiple OSes, everything works fine. also, no router config changes at all. and no firewall set up whatsoever.
[13:35] <curlyears> I mean, it's fairly obvious how I made the mistaken identity
[13:36] <ikonia> beginner_: not if the fireall is local to the box you're running it on
[13:36] <ikonia> curlyears: not missleading in the slightest
[13:37] <ikonia> curlyears: if you don't know how to read the output of command - don't use the defailts of the output
[13:37] <curlyears> ikonia:  if ypu say so
[13:37] <curlyears> nnow, about this USB problem:   #hardware?
[13:37] <BrAsS_mOnKeY> When installing Ubuntu, is it NOT recommended to install third-party software for graphis and wi-fi hardware, flash, mp3, and other media?
[13:37] <ikonia> curlyears: well, you don't know how to read the output - and you made assumptions without checking, so dont' use data y ou don't understand
[13:37] <BrAsS_mOnKeY> graphics*
[13:38] <tinyhippo> can someone exlain how Snap packages work
[13:38] <curlyears> ikonia:   yes, as you say.
[13:39] <beginner_> ikonia: (a) just tried another distro, also with very recent kernel/drivers -> exactly the same issue. (b) running them all as live systems from an usb stick, no changes made by me. so shouldn't be a local fw (?)
[13:39] <tinyhippo> in my brain, it works like this: Application X needs library Y v3.5, Application Z also requires library Y, but v3.6, Application A needs library Y - therefore it installs Applications A X and Z, and both Library Y v3.5 and 3.6?
[13:39] <Pici> tinyhippo: yes, but within a container.
[13:39] <ikonia> beginner_: live sticks have firewalls
[13:39] <Pici> tinyhippo: er. I mean each snap package installs all of its dependencies in a container.
[13:40] <curlyears> off to #hardware for a while
[13:40] <beginner_> ikonia: seems badly configured if i cannot access any network resources at all (like the internet)? also, never had problems with previous live versions ... strange. how to disable it (ubuntu 16.04)?
[13:40] <ikonia> beginner_: ping is not "cannot access network resoruces"
[13:41] <Hoang134> what the problem with you ? beginner
[13:41] <ikonia> beginner_: what network resources can you not access ?
[13:41] <beginner_> ikonia: well ping is one thing i've tried. basically every application trying to access the network fails. cannot pingn othe
[13:41] <beginner_> ... sorry
[13:41] <RealPanV> Hello! I am thinking of installing elementary. Where should I go?
[13:42] <ikonia> beginner_: so thats very doubtful
[13:42] <beginner_> ikonia: cannot reach/ping other machines, network shares, etc. pp.
[13:42] <RealPanV> Since this chat only supports its official flavours.
[13:42] <ikonia> RealPanV: elementrary website shows all the support details
[13:42] <RealPanV> Oh thanks!
[13:42] <ikonia> beginner_: so it's more likley you're not on the network
[13:42] <Hoang134> @Real: You should try
[13:42] <RealPanV> How could I forget that
[13:42] <beginner_> ikonia: BUT as i said gateway/dns/etc is correctly set to the router's ip. i've got a nice, valid dhcp-assigned ip as well.
[13:43] <tinyhippo> Pici: so you end up with duplicates?
[13:43] <beginner_> ikonia: also the network manager (and ifconfig/iwconfig) say i'm connected
[13:43] <Pici> tinyhippo: yes.
[13:43] <ikonia> beginner_: so look at your connection details
[13:44] <Pici> tinyhippo: as least insofar as I understand it. #snappy has more details.
[13:44] <beginner_> ikonia: at what specifically?
[13:44] <lwappleby> SDR RECEIVER ? UPDATE USEING GNU
[13:45] <RealPanV> This will be a noob-y question but I am trying to install Ubuntu on a specific partition, on an external hard drive. But whenever I try it, it says that this partition isn't root or a similar message that I cannot provide (official Ubuntu). Should I flag the partition as root first?
[13:46] <ash_workz> `apt-get update` is complaining about how Pinta doesn't have GPG... I think?
[13:47] <GnomeKris> Why can't I enable canonical partners in software&updates?
[13:47] <ikonia> beginner_: your ip, your netmask, your gateway, yor dns
[13:47] <phillyj> can someone  help me remove all my nvidia drivers?
[13:47] <ducasse> beginner_: also check that the default route is correctly set.
[13:48] <Hoang134> ls
[13:48] <RealPanV> phillyj: You dont want any other drivers right?
[13:49] <Hoang134> Anybody use weechat?
[13:50] <ubuntu-studio> can someone tell me what ubuntu version is most user friendly
[13:50] <derbie> Hello! Can someone please help me out with fixing this issue, i can't google a solution for it http://pastebin.com/2DiVUrQ2
[13:50] <OerHeks> phillyj, go into the driver tool, and select nouveau, then run sudo apt-get autoclean or autoremove in terminal
[13:50] <gargamel> gargamel, hey
[13:50] <beginner_> ikonia, ducasse: everything looks very fine, checked multiple times before asking here ... (checked again few seconds ago :D)
[13:50] <gargamel> pmatulis, morning
[13:50] <ikonia> beginner_: what is your current machine ip
[13:51] <BrAsS_mOnKeY> trying to ubuntu on vm and select download update while installing but it doesn't have internet for some reason.
[13:51] <Hoang134> exit
[13:51] <pmatulis> gargamel, morning
[13:52] <erwan_> heya
[13:53] <beginner_> ikonia: 192.168.0.101 (according to ifconfig, seemingly assigned via dhcp). router is 192.168.0.1, every other machine 192.168.0.10x. default route and dns is set to 192.168.0.1. netmask 255.255.255.0
[13:53] <erwan_> is there anyone here that is confident with cloud-init ?
[13:53] <RealPanV> BrAsS_mOnKeY: I believe you need to do something in the VM settings, I think you can't use the same network card at the same time with your normal OS and the VM if I am correct.
[13:53] <ikonia> beginner_: and what is the exact command you are using
[13:53] <RealPanV> I have to use VMs for a long time so I cant provide anything more
[13:53] <erwan_> I'm facing a strange issue when it tries to setup ssh and complain the user doesn't exist while it is supposed to create it
[13:54] <derbie> Hello! Can someone please help me out with fixing this issue, i can't google a solution for it http://pastebin.com/2DiVUrQ2
[13:54] <gargamel> pmatulis, ha
[13:54] <BrAsS_mOnKeY> Thank you RealPanV.
[13:55] <OerHeks> beginner_, some strange connection issues can be solved by restarting the router, have you tried that?
[13:56] <beginner_> OerHeks: no way, connection is needed by other machines on the network. (and works 100% fine for them ...)
[13:56] <ikonia> beginner_: and what is the exact command you are using
[13:56] <RealPanV> BrAsS_mOnKeY: Did I actually help? My pleasure.
[13:58] <beginner_> ikonia: network manager gui "connection information" thingy. ifconfig, iwconfig, etc. all say the same
[13:59] <ikonia> beginner_: the exact ping command
[14:00] <Dumle29> So if my laptop has been suspended, and then opened again, putting in the charger makes it dog slow
[14:01] <Dumle29> like, really really slow
[14:01] <Dumle29> a restart fixes it, but I
[14:01] <Dumle29> But I'd prefer a more permanent fix :/
[14:01] <Dumle29> any tips?
[14:01] <beginner_> ikonia: well ... "ping 192.168.0.1", "ping www.google.com", "ping 192.168.0.10x" (other machine's IP, network storage etc., reachable from the network)
[14:02] <beginner_> ikonia: i can also just open firefox -> cannot reach *anything*. no matter which host name or ip, which port, protocol, etc.
[14:02] <popey> Dumle29: leave top running and see what's eating the cpu? (I suspect I know the answer - either the kswapd process or one of the idleinject ones)
[14:03] <GnomeKris> Created my new ext4 partition, now trying to copy/paste from the ntfs to ext4, I can't paste. The option is grayed out in gui
[14:03] <ikonia> beginner_: so that suggests you're not on the network
[14:03] <popey> GnomeKris: gparted doens't work like that. you can copy like-for-like partitions
[14:04] <popey> GnomeKris: or you could use a tool like rsync or cp to do a file based copy
[14:04] <popey> GnomeKris: but if you use parted, it will expect target to be the same as source.
[14:04] <GnomeKris> I'm just using the files application gui
[14:04] <Dumle29> popey: A onedrive daemon
[14:04] <beginner_> ikonia: yes .... that is my problem. the connection is there, connection setup (dhcp, gateway, etc. etc.) seems to work fine, connection seems steady after that, but i cannot reach anything on the network ...
[14:04] <GnomeKris> cp would probably work best though huh?
[14:04] <Dumle29> popey: But only rarel
[14:04] <Dumle29> rarely
[14:05] <beginner_> ikonia: seems the same problem (same symptoms at least) have occurred some times before (found some posts from 2010 and 2013 - they all said to upgrade kernel/driver, haha ...).
[14:05] <ikonia> beginner_: is this a wireless network ?
[14:05] <Dumle29> popey: Maybe some sort of weird powersaving state glitch?
[14:05] <GnomeKris> like "cp -r source/directory/* /destination/directory"
[14:05] <GnomeKris> or so?
[14:05] <popey> GnomeKris: I'd use cp -a
[14:05] <GnomeKris> -a is archive though?
[14:06] <beginner_> ikonia: yeah.
[14:06] <GnomeKris> I want recursive and to retain permissions
[14:06] <ikonia> beginner_: so thats the first thing I'd be looking at is verifying if you are actually on that wireles network still
[14:06] <ikonia> a simple test is to re-request a new ip from dhclient
[14:06] <popey> GnomeKris: yes, read the man page
[14:06] <GnomeKris> I'll be taking ownership and creating a permanent mount point for the new partition when I'm done.
[14:07] <GnomeKris> I did, that's why I'm asking. I should rephrase...Why archive?
[14:07] <paws> how can i install xml parser and mb string in ubuntu 16.04 ?
[14:07] <popey> GnomeKris: look at the very next line
[14:08] <GnomeKris> --attributes-only?
[14:08] <popey>        -a, --archive
[14:08] <popey>               same as -dR --preserve=all
[14:08] <gargamel> pmatulis, bro :)
[14:08] <GnomeKris> ah
[14:08] <popey>                 ^ the next line
[14:09] <GnomeKris> I missed that some how
[14:09] <popey> yes, I know :)
[14:09] <GnomeKris> I plan on wiping out the ntfs partition entirely. -a will accomplish what I'm after without loss of data?
[14:10] <beginner_> ikonia: you think i'm very stupid, don't you. well i cannot blame you but in fact, everything seems in place, even the wireless network i'm (allegedly) connected to. (network name, AP's mac address/bssid, ...)
[14:10] <beginner_> ikonia: just ran "dhclient -r wlp7s0" and "dhclient wlp7s0", got the same ip again.
[14:10] <popey> GnomeKris: if you copy everything, sure
[14:11] <GnomeKris> I plan to use a wildcard copy. like "cp -a /source/directory/* /dest/directory/"
[14:11] <GnomeKris> popey^^
[14:11] <ikonia> beginner_: I never said you where stupid at all
[14:11] <ikonia> beginner_: what are you talking about
[14:13] <popey> GnomeKris: I'd just cp -a source/directory /dest/directory
[14:13] <popey> GnomeKris: so you pick up hidden files in the source
[14:13] <beginner_> ikonia: i know. you just talk to me like most people talk to rather unknowledgable /unintelligent or plainly stupid people. as i said, cannot blame you, since what i'm telling seems dumb. but hey i cannot explain it either, hence why i came here :D
[14:13] <GnomeKris> No wildcard needed then?
[14:13] <ikonia> beginner_: I'm not going to engage with your futher, I've been nothing but polite and given you debug / walk through advice to work out the problem
[14:13] <GnomeKris> and it'll copy recursive directories?\
[14:14] <popey> GnomeKris: depends what's in the folder. try it and see
[14:14] <paws> how can i install xml parser and mb string in ubuntu 16.04 ? I did apt-get install php-xmlrpc but it still not working.. do i have to change anything in the php.ini ?
[14:14] <popey> paws: php-xml-parser isn't it?
[14:14] <GnomeKris> true, it's copy, not cut, so it's not like the source is going anywhere yet.
[14:14] <GnomeKris> excuse me, it's copy, not move.
[14:15] <popey> paws: also php-mbstring
[14:16] <paws> i did that popey
[14:16] <paws> ohhh php-xml-parser i see
[14:17] <paws> lol
[14:17] <beginner_> ikonia: i tried to be polite, too. thanks anyways, have a nice day. :-)
[14:18] <paws> what about php ZIP support? what do i need for that?
[14:18] <popey> paws: php-zip
[14:18] <popey> paws: apt-cache search php | grep zip
[14:18] <akik> beginner_: can you list "ip addr list" and "ip route list" in a pastebin?
[14:19] <akik> i know it can be hard without network :)
[14:21] <curlyears> OK, those guys in #hardware definitely knnow their stuff, but their suggestions re: my problem were pretty lame
[14:22] <beginner_> akik: sorry doing that "setting up an old laptop" on the side, no time for usb-stick-copy-paste-carrying-stuff" :-(
[14:22] <beginner_> maybe later or tomorrow, gotta get some work done
[14:22] <MacroMan> If I set the permission of files on a network drive, does Windows see those permissions?
[14:27] <cannibal> hi
[14:28] <cannibal> none of my shortcut keys work
[14:29] <cannibal> using ubuntu mate
[14:29] <Frede___1> How do i connect to a wireless accesspoint in ubuntu using the command line?
[14:30] <nomic> https://www.raspberrypi.org/documentation/configuration/wireless/wireless-cli.md  SETTING WIFI UP VIA THE COMMAND LINE
[14:30] <nomic> http://askubuntu.com/questions/461825/connect-to-wifi-from-command-line
[14:30] <nomic> connect to wifi from command line  ^
[14:30] <curlyears> Windoes and linux use entirely different file permisssions protocols, but if the user the networkl shares through ghas permissions to files, then the Windows user can usse them.  If not, they're protected from the Windows user (IIRC)
[14:31] <curlyears> nomic:  did you know there is a #raspberrypi channel?
[14:31] <lotuspsychje> !who | curlyears
[14:32] <phillyj> I want to remove my old 14.4 installation on my SSD boot drive (file system) and install 16.04. I have USB live-install ready. Do I just run the live-USB so that I can start from scratch?
[14:32] <EriC^^> phillyj: do you need anything from your old installation?
[14:33] <phillyj> i have my /home on another HDD, EriC^^
[14:33] <curlyears> good point, lotuspsychjelot:  are you aware of any "filter driver" sorts of things under ubuntu that would correctly use the USB ports on tyhe front panel, but not correctly use the USB ports on the rear panel?
[14:33] <nomic> oh
[14:33] <EriC^^> phillyj: ok, you can get the list of installed programs if you want and auto reinstall them later
[14:33] <nomic> can't join automatically curlyear
[14:34] <phillyj> EriC^^: so I can just run my live-USB and it will show me what to do, right?
[14:34] <curlyears> nomic:   what do you mean?
[14:34] <EriC^^> phillyj: do you want to keep them?
[14:35] <phillyj> EriC^^: no
[14:35] <nomic> i kno, curlyears
[14:35] <nomic> that there is a raspberry pi channel
[14:35] <EriC^^> phillyj: ok, just run the live usb and choose to erase the disk and fresh install if just 1 hdd is in there, or manually partition
[14:35] <curlyears> nomic:  n what do you mean by "can't join automatically?"
[14:35] <EriC^^> from the Something else menu
[14:36] <cannibal> my ctrl and alt keys are mapped to shift for some reason
[14:36] <cannibal> how can i fix this
[14:38] <OerHeks> cannibal, what did you do to map them to shift?
[14:39] <t1mp> hello
[14:39] <t1mp> I just received my brand new Dell XPS13 with Ubuntu
[14:40] <t1mp> I like to upgrade it from 14.04 to 16.04.. according to https://wiki.ubuntu.com/XenialXerus/ReleaseNotes that should be almost automatic when I enable notifications for new LTS versions, but update manager tells me there are no updates
[14:40] <t1mp> I guess that notification will only come for 16.04.1?
[14:40] <lotuspsychje> !ltsupgrade | t1mp
[14:41] <cannibal> oer
[14:41] <t1mp> so if I want it now, I have to upgrade to 15.10 first?
[14:41] <cannibal> OerHeks,  nothing
[14:41] <t1mp> and then to 16.04?
[14:41] <lotuspsychje> t1mp: clean install
[14:41] <cannibal> OerHeks, if i try to change shutdown shortcut to ctrl alt del it sees the keys as shift + del
[14:42] <t1mp> lotuspsychje: why? Is it likely to break if I upgrade to 15.10 (which the software updater offers), and then to 16.04?
[14:42] <t1mp> I finally have a laptop with ubuntu pre-installed and now I have to do a clean install
[14:42] <lotuspsychje> t1mp: not very recommended to go from lts to non-lts liek that
[14:43] <akik> t1mp: have you made a backup of it? it could have some custom dell installed software in it
[14:43] <lotuspsychje> t1mp: wait the LTS way on 16.04.1 perhaps
[14:43] <kiran_> Is there a package manager for ubuntu?
[14:43] <t1mp> akik: I didn't make a backup, but there are some dell packages and ppas installed
[14:43] <akik> t1mp: 14.04 is supported until 2019 btw
[14:44] <t1mp> kiran_: apt, and there are graphical tools too
[14:44] <polyxena> I've recently installed 16.04lts.  Installed xpad (note taking program) from repos.  "search your computer" does not find it.  Why?
[14:44] <Olotila> is there a command to find out location in network wise?
[14:44] <t1mp> akik: yeah, but I need 16.04, for ubuntu phone development and I like to play with lxd
[14:44] <Olotila> I am in NAS
[14:44] <GnomeKris> Can I claim ownership of a new partition with "sudo chown -R kristopher:kristopher /media/partion/"
[14:44] <GnomeKris> or so?
[14:44] <lotuspsychje> polyxena: dash doesnt show xpad?
[14:45] <Guest248> exit
[14:45] <polyxena> if dash=search your computer, then no.
[14:45] <Hulio> hi
[14:45] <lotuspsychje> polyxena: what happens when you start xpad from terminal?
[14:46] <polyxena> it starts fine
[14:46] <Hulio> hi how to make ubuntu auto login?'
[14:46] <Hulio> i need it automatic login
[14:46] <Hulio> is there a way to change it from terminal?
[14:46] <lotuspsychje> polyxena: does the icon show on your launcher after launch?
[14:46] <polyxena> yes
[14:46] <EriC^^> Hulio: go to settings > accounts
[14:47] <EriC^^> and turn automatic login on
[14:47] <lotuspsychje> polyxena: stick it to persisent on your launcher then?
[14:47] <polyxena> lotuspsychje:  will try it
[14:48] <akik> GnomeKris: yes that works fine
[14:48] <Hulio> thanks dude
[14:48] <lotuspsychje> polyxena: does xpad show in /usr/share/applications ?
[14:48] <EriC^^> Hulio: no problem
[14:48] <akik> GnomeKris: there's probably your username in between media and the partition
[14:48] <polyxena> lotuspsychje:  worked.  thanks.
[14:48] <Hulio> EriC^^, you're genieus
[14:48] <Hulio> EriC^^, you're very smart man
[14:49] <lotuspsychje> !cookie | EriC^^
[14:49] <GnomeKris> akik, I didn't mean to exclude that part.
[14:49] <GnomeKris> my bad
[14:53] <t1mp> ah, if I configure update manager to warn for LTS release only, update-manager -d gives me the option to go from 14.04 to 16.04 LTS
[14:53] <t1mp> let's try that.
[14:53] <k1l> !ltsupgrade | t1mp
[14:53] <t1mp> yes, I saw that. But I prefer not to wait until the automatic upgrade in july :)
[14:54] <akik> t1mp: that was the warning
[14:54] <polyxena> can "search your computer" display programs as list and not icons?
[14:54] <t1mp> someone needs to test if it works ;)
[14:54] <tytan> Hello everyone. I just saw that Bethesda is working on bringing DOOM on vulkan. I huess this means it could potentially be played on linux based operating systems. How do I install Vulkan in Ubuntu 16.04? =)
[14:54] <akik> t1mp: backups are good in this case :)
[14:55] <t1mp> well I got the laptop 1h ago, so not much data on it that I can lose
[14:56] <akik> t1mp: time is of value too, not having to figure out why your hw is not working after the default installation
[14:56] <Switches> @t1mp aslong as you have read the https://wiki.ubuntu.com/XenialXerus/ReleaseNotes and have backups of anything you should be good to go.
[14:56] <OerHeks> polyxena, install classicmenu-indicator to get a gnome2.x like menu on the top panel right side
[14:56] <OerHeks> !info classicmenu-indicator
[14:56] <lotuspsychje> tytan: seems like usefull here: https://launchpad.net/~canonical-x/+archive/ubuntu/vulkan
[14:57] <tytan> lotuspsychje: Oh, thank you very much! =]
[14:57] <lotuspsychje> tytan: there is also #gamingonlinux if you wanna be up to date on gaming news/linux
[14:57] <tytan> nice to know
[14:58] <akik> tytan: i saw a news article that someone got doom 4 running under wine, smoothly
[14:58] <Switches> @tytan they aren't releasing for Linux and as Vulkan isn't platform specific (and still very early beta). I doubt it will run natively. But maybe Wine will have it
[14:59] <OerHeks> tytan, you have been watching Doom running on GTX 1080 with Vulkan API ?
[14:59] <polyxena> OerHeks:  thanks.  I'll try that.
[14:59] <tytan> OerHeks: That's what I've seen on the internet, yes. I currently have a GTX 980 Ti which is fine too ^^
[15:00] <OerHeks> tytan, it is awesome indeed, 200 fps https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5T_zaNqAqzY
[15:01] <tytan> OerHeks: I dualboot with Windows 7 at the moment and I played the open beta. If it runs on linux natively, it would be awesome
[15:01] <tevin> django
[15:01] <tevin> #django
[15:01] <phillyj> i'm install 16.04 and am setting the partitions. Why did the installation want to make changes to my LIVE-USB? It is putting the swap in it...
[15:02] <someone235> Can anyone please help me with this? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2323825&p=13486642#post13486642
[15:02] <lotuspsychje> phillyj: are you only seeing your liveusb media instead of your internal harddisk?
[15:02] <OerHeks> someone235, typo > nnameserver
[15:02] <curlyears> hmmm
[15:03] <someone235> OerHeks, I don't think it's typo, I think it's new line
[15:03] <phillyj> lotuspsychje: no, all my HDDs are seen; I  have 1 SSD and 3 HDD on my PC
[15:04] <someone235> OerHeks, I've checked resolve.conf and it's written OK.
[15:04] <lotuspsychje> phillyj: try the auto partioning on your ssd?
[15:04] <OerHeks> someone235, and resolve.conf should not be editted when using networkmanager, AFAIK
[15:05] <phillyj> lotuspsychje: after setting my SSD with mount point and clicking "Install Now", I am asked to allow putting SWAP on my live-usb. I didn't select such an option
[15:05] <lotuspsychje> phillyj: are you not manually partitioning?
[15:06] <phillyj> lotuspsychje: yes
[15:06] <phillyj> lotuspsychje: i selected to install by "something else"
[15:06] <lotuspsychje> phillyj: try going back and automatic partition your ssd
[15:06] <someone235> OerHeks, it doesn't work even after I'm stopping networkmanager and then starting again
[15:07] <akik> someone235: there's a place in network manager for your dns servers
[15:07] <phillyj> lotuspsychje: what is automaticpartition?
[15:07] <lotuspsychje> phillyj: do you want your ssd installed fully with ubuntu?
[15:07] <firman> Anyone want to give me explanation about this error log? http://paste.ubuntu.com/16346705/
[15:07] <phillyj> lotuspsychje: yes
[15:07] <someone235> akik, OerHeks, Actually, I don't see how it's related to my issue. 8.8.8.8 is Google dns server. How it can help me connect to wifi?
[15:08] <OerHeks> someone235, this post handles dns and networkmanager, use networkmanager and leave resolv.conf, or set it static yourself and remove networkmanager..
[15:08] <OerHeks> http://askubuntu.com/questions/623940/network-manager-how-to-stop-nm-updating-etc-resolv-conf
[15:08] <phillyj> lotuspsychje: it should have the / mount point; my /home will be on another HDD
[15:08] <OerHeks> someone235, akik is right, use the networkmanager gui to setup your wifi, auto dhcp and manual dns
[15:09] <someone235> OerHeks, yes, but how setting dns server should help me in the first place?
[15:10] <akik> someone235: you  should first check whether you get an ip address from your access point and can not ping it. not sure why it was given as a first choice at ubuntu forums
[15:10] <jka_> anyone
[15:10] <lotuspsychje> !partitioning | phillyj
[15:11] <OerHeks> someone235, YOU came here with a dns issue > http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2323825&p=13486642#post13486642
[15:11] <lotuspsychje> firman: having wifi issues?
[15:11] <OerHeks> don't turn it around ..
[15:12] <n1md4> hi.  does any one know of a hardware testing 'distro' i want something i can put on usb/cd boot a machine with, it run a bunch of tests, and prints pass or fail
[15:12] <n1md4> anything like that?
[15:12] <someone235> OerHeks, sorry, I didn't mean to use the #
[15:12] <jka_> k
[15:12] <jka_> hello
[15:12] <lotuspsychje> n1md4: put ubuntu on an usb, if hardware fails, logs will show
[15:12] <someone235> OerHeks, I meant to ask about the problem in the top post
[15:13] <jka_> any server establishing tutorials
[15:13] <lotuspsychje> !server | jka_
[15:13] <jka_> links to them
[15:13] <n1md4> lotuspsychje: yeah, i'm thinking of a minimal ubuntu, with some choice tools
[15:13] <jka_> @ubottu thx
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[15:14] <lotuspsychje> n1md4: there are some good testing packages out there like bonnie++
[15:14] <lotuspsychje> n1md4: depending what hardware specific you like to test
[15:14] <n1md4> lotuspsychje: right, that's what i was thinking, i'd like to memtest, bonnie+, and cpu burn
[15:14] <GnomeKris> http://pastebin.com/20ymtVkL Is this all I need in fstab to make the mount point permanent?
[15:15] <n1md4> well, as much hardware as possible; excluding anything to do with video; not interested in that.
[15:15] <erwan_> n1md4, cpuburn doesn't perform any benchmark but a heating test
[15:15] <lotuspsychje> n1md4: you want it for 1 machine or several?
[15:15] <MrKeuner> can I see which packages are not under security-updates maintenance?
[15:15] <n1md4> erwan_: just a suggestion, I'd love to hear more.
[15:16] <jesk> hi
[15:16] <n1md4> lotuspsychje: several, it can be quite generic
[15:16] <someone235> akik, I don't have an IP address
[15:16] <firman> no but its found in kern.log after random freeze, and i downloading something with uget(with aria2), lotuspsychje
[15:16] <someone235> akik, I'm not connected to the access point
[15:16] <phillyj> lotuspsychje: hmm, never mind, i think. this USB has a linux-swap in it for some unknown reason
[15:16] <lotuspsychje> !details | firman
[15:16] <OerHeks> MrKeuner, that will be none, i guess?
[15:17] <jesk> when trying to install Ubuntu Server 16.04 LTS the installer says "Failed to retrieve the preconfiguration file.....file:///cdrom/preseed/ubuntu-server.seed".
[15:17] <lotuspsychje> jesk: perhaps the #ubuntu-server channel might know this?
[15:17] <jesk> when I skip this error I have to install manually but then it fails to detect my NICs
[15:17] <OerHeks> jesk, check the md5sum of the iso ?
[15:17] <OerHeks> !md5sum
[15:18] <akik> someone235: when you do "rfkill list" does it say that something is blocked?
[15:19] <firman> whole system is freeze, keyboard, mouse, screen all of them not responding, i did nothing and cant do anything except press and hold the power button, i am ran ubuntu 15.10 with asus x200ma, huawei mobile wifi used as wired device, lotuspsychje
[15:20] <jesk> the md5 sum is ok
[15:20] <lotuspsychje> firman: was this an upgrade or clean install?
[15:20] <jesk> is there anything what the server OS can do what the normal ubuntu distri cant?
[15:20] <jesk> no clue about the differences
[15:20] <firman> clean install, lotuspsychje
[15:20] <rick6860> can someone help me navigate the install of Miro media player?
[15:21] <someone235> akik, nothing is blocked
[15:21] <lotuspsychje> firman: have you tried a 16.04 liveusb yet?
[15:22] <akik> someone235: can you list the wireless networks with "sudo iwlist your_interface scan" ?
[15:22] <akik> someone235: maybe try restarting the access point?
[15:23] <firman> not i dont yet, in this country, connection not fast and i waiting for some major bug fixed, its still in downloading process
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[15:23] <lotuspsychje> firman: ok wanna pastebin your syslog with us?
[15:24] <lotuspsychje> firman: since when did 15.10 start to freeze?
[15:24] <firman> oke, on whats point its exactly? xorg, dpkg or auth lotuspsychje?
[15:25] <lotuspsychje> firman: pastebin /var/log/syslog please
[15:25] <firman> oke, <lotuspsychje>
[15:25] <someone235> akik, I don't have direct access to the router
[15:26] <akik> someone235: can you try connecting through your cell phone?
[15:26] <someone235> you mean to use it as hotspot?
[15:26] <akik> someone235: yes
[15:27] <akik> someone235: that way you can test where the problem could be
[15:28] <rick6860> how do I Add the PPA as a source.?
[15:28] <OerHeks> !addppa
[15:28] <BrAsS_mOnKeY> PPA! O.O
[15:30] <tjvc> Should I avoid using the service command to control systemd services in Ubuntu 16.04?
[15:31] <akik> tjvc: yes
[15:31] <MrKeuner> OerHeks, not correct. there may be packages you installed from other repositories, packages that end their life of support, etc.
[15:31] <akik> tjvc: systemctl is the one
[15:33] <tjvc> akik: Thanks. Is there a reason why service still works though, for example for Apache?
[15:33] <akik> tjvc: can you see /etc/init.d/apache on your system?
[15:34] <tjvc> akik: Yes.
[15:34] <akik> tjvc: ok so service is reading that file
[15:35] <phillyj> i finished installing 16.04 but I want to use my old /home that is on my other HDD. How do I move it?
[15:35] <R0binh00d> Some of the service scripts may still be present in the directory structure so that service will read them use them, but thn again with systemd, that should not be the default method of dealing with services
[15:35] <R0binh00d> so akik I agree with you ...
[15:36] <akik> then there are some compatibility layers in systemd for init scripts
[15:36] <lotuspsychje> !movehome | phillyj
[15:36] <someone235> akik, I don't find toothpick in order to put the micro sim in my smartphone. Do you have other idea?
[15:37] <akik> someone235: hehe that was my best choice for checking whether the wireless in your laptop works
[15:37] <R0binh00d> yo lotuspsychje you still here? When do you sleep man? :-)
[15:37] <lotuspsychje> !life | R0binh00d
[15:38] <tjvc> akik: Ah OK, just reading up on this. Looks like systemd is backwards compatible with SysV init scripts, which I guess explains why systemctl also works.
[15:39] <phillyj> lotuspsychje: i have my old files on my other HDD (/home). I just want to have my file system keep all those files and use that as the "new" /home
[15:39] <someone235> akik, I'll go to the grocery to buy a toothpick :)
[15:40] <R0binh00d> !love | lotuspsychje
[15:40] <lotuspsychje> R0binh00d: sorry im already taken :p
[15:41] <R0binh00d> :P
[15:42] <fub> I want to install a minimal ubuntu on a working machine at home, so I choose to take the ubuntu server image. My cpu supports 64bit (intel core i5), but I can only find amd64 images, do they also work?
[15:42] <lotuspsychje> fub: amd64 is the 64bit image
[15:42] <firman> lotuspsychje, pleas wait, "bad gateway"
[15:43] <lotuspsychje> fub: its just a general name for it
[15:43] <somsip> !minimal | fub (is the most minimal)
[15:43] <fub> somsip: is there an advantage of this over the server image?
[15:43] <lotuspsychje> firman: can you tell me when 15.10 started to freeze?
[15:43] <somsip> fub: depends how minimal you want it to be
[15:43] <fub> It's not because of the size, I just dont want a GUI etc installed by default
[15:43] <fub> somsip: I want to install only what I need
[15:44] <ioria> !mini
[15:45] <somsip> fub: that's what the minimal install offers
[15:45] <fub> somsip: so what the difference to the server version?
[15:45] <somsip> fub: server installs some server packages AIUI
[15:45] <firman> its random, but ussualy when i runing firefox too long
[15:46] <ioria> fub, for starter, it's a net install
[15:46] <firman> when watching livestreaming, youtube, vlc, document viewer, lotuspsychje
[15:46] <lotuspsychje> firman: did it always was like this? or did you have better times on 15.10?
[15:47] <fub> all right, then I hope it detects my wlan adapter, it's an Alfa AWUS30H so it can pull packages.
[15:47] <fub> is there any way to check this before?
[15:47] <lotuspsychje> fub: mini is pretty advanced, you might encouter unwanted stuff
[15:47] <somsip> fub: not sure - never used minimal with wifi. I'd suggest care should be taken
[15:47] <fub> lotuspsychje: unwanted stuff? :D
[15:48] <firman> its was happens from i install it. never change, but many issue such freeze when lid off can solved by google, lotuspsychje, i think its because my computer is not on verified list in ubuntu device
[15:48] <lotuspsychje> fub: like installing needed network packages etc
[15:48] <firman> sorry for english :)
[15:49] <fub> lotuspsychje: as long as there is a module for my wlan adapter I'm fine with this
[15:49] <lotuspsychje> firman: perhaps install a lighter ubuntu flavor, or buy a 16.04 usb stick from ubuntu's website (if you have slow internet)
[15:49] <ioria> fub, it gives you the choice to manual configure your adapter , if not happen automatically , as you said the problem could be the module
[15:50] <firman> okay, thx, ill try your advice lotuspsychje
[15:50] <somsip> fub: possiblilty is to install to a VM first to check
[15:50] <lotuspsychje> fub: a good idea could be putting some drivers on usb already for your specific chipset?
[15:50] <firman> and thanks for your attention, its meaning a lot, lotuspsychje
[15:51] <fub> It's based on the Realtek RTL8187 chipset, I think this is built in.
[15:51] <fub> I will try it
[15:51] <lotuspsychje> firman: 15.10 is gonna end support on the near future, so best to choose another version
[15:52] <firman> okay, i got it, lotuspsychje
[15:52] <lotuspsychje> fub: another way is installing a regular ubuntu flavor, and stripping it down to you needs as you wish (purge)
[15:52] <soutce47> hi guys, i am running ubuntu 15.10 in a lxc container and i am getting problems running localed: systemd-localed.service: Failed at step NETWORK spawning permission denied
[15:53] <soutce47> the above comes from journalctl
[15:53] <soutce47> generally localectl status just hangs then times out
[15:53] <soutce47> any ideas what i can do allow permission for network spawning?
[15:54] <phillyj> whats the desktop environment on 16.4 known as?
[15:54] <EriC^^> phillyj: unity
[15:54] <somsip> phillyj: unity
[15:55] <firman> one more question lotuspsychje, which better between upgrade and clean install?
[15:55] <lotuspsychje> firman: well for your case, clean install as upgrade needs faster connection
[15:56] <lotuspsychje> firman: let the 16.04 download finish and burn the iso on stick, then clean install
[15:56] <firman> okay... :D lotuspsychje
[15:57] <lotuspsychje> firman: how fast is your 'slow' connection exactly?
[15:58] <jak2000> hi all
[15:58] <lotuspsychje> jak2000: welcome, how can we assist you?
[15:59] <jak2000> i need create a variable(environment) named: CONECTOR_HOME and point to: /home/jak/conector  how do it?
[16:00] <firman> in midnight to 6:00 am 60 kbps, and then slower, lotuspsychje
[16:00] <somsip> jak2000: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EnvironmentVariables
[16:00] <lotuspsychje> firman: ok thats slow..better choose the safest clean install way
[16:02] <fub> lotuspsychje: so.. it looks like he does not even try to connect to the wireless lan, just trying to set up the dhcp stuff
[16:02] <firman> yeah, its better, lotuspsychje
[16:03] <fub> I opened a shell in the installer and wrote the /etc/network/interfaces, but there is no ifconfig to activate the interface
[16:03] <Pici> /25/25
[16:03] <ioria> fub, no, you have start the installation and follow it
[16:03] <ioria> *to
[16:04] <fub> ioria: I did, but there is no step for setting up a wireless connection
[16:04] <fub> ioria: I'm trying the minimal install
[16:04] <BrAsS_mOnKeY> how to I leave tty1?
[16:04] <BrAsS_mOnKeY> do*
[16:05] <lotuspsychje> fub: thats the unwanted stuff i meant :p
[16:05] <BrAsS_mOnKeY> tty2, i mean
[16:05] <aliefchandra> testing koneksi
[16:05] <fub> hehe okay
[16:05] <fub> then I'm going to use the server install
[16:05] <fub> does this have the wireless stuff?
[16:05] <lotuspsychje> fub: server install should handle network better yes
[16:05] <ioria> fub, mmm, you need a cable connection, then
[16:06] <lotuspsychje> fub: but ask yourself first, do you really need ubuntu server?
[16:06] <fub> lotuspsychje: I dont want to install all the GUI stuff. I want to install i3 later
[16:07] <fub> so I think the server install is cleaner, isnt it?
[16:07] <lotuspsychje> fub: why dont you strip down a xubuntu or so, purge all unwanted stuff and set i3 to autologin?
[16:07] <braycep> #join ubuntu-cn
[16:07] <lotuspsychje> fub: xubuntu or lubuntu are pretty light by default
[16:07] <fub> lotuspsychje: mhh
[16:07] <lotuspsychje> fub: installing i3 on a server sounds a bit weird...
[16:08] <fub> lotuspsychje: yeah this is not going to be a server :>
[16:08] <lotuspsychje> fub: thats what i mean..
[16:08] <R0binh00d> %c
[16:08] <ducasse> fub: if you want a really minimal install and don't mind a little manual work, you can use debootstrap.
[16:08] <jak2000> somsip: how to know where is installed java? thanks
[16:08] <somsip> fub: the correct (but tricky) way would be to use minimal. The easier (but messier) way would be to strip down from a simple install. To use server install on a desktop is wrong each way
[16:08] <braycep> #join help
[16:08] <zincrokx> hi
[16:08] <R0binh00d> AME
[16:09] <fub> So when I take the desktop version and strip it down. How do I know what to strip down?
[16:09] <lotuspsychje> fub: unwanted packages of your choice
[16:09] <somsip> jak2000: 'whereis java' will tell you where it is installed but might not be what you need
[16:09] <fub> I dont know all that additional stuff ubuntu adds for the desktop
[16:09] <fub> lotuspsychje: so then I have to go through dpkg for every single package?
[16:09] <kunifa> hello. installed gnome to ubuntu 16.04. there's no menu entry to switch users - how to enable that?
[16:09] <squinty> braycep,   /j #<channel name here>
[16:09] <braycep> #join ubuntu-cn
[16:09] <lotuspsychje> fub: sudo apt-get purge package1 package2 package3
[16:10] <lotuspsychje> fub: pretty fast :p
[16:10] <EriC^^> fub: you could download the manifest for the server and manifest for the desktop and run a quick comparison
[16:10] <squinty> braycep,  /join #ubuntu-cn
[16:10] <fub> lotuspsychje: I know, I know. But I first have to find out what to strip.
[16:10] <braycep> squinty,thank you very much
[16:10] <ducasse> fub: if you install from the desktop image, you can remove the desktop stuff and other tasks with tasksel.
[16:10] <lotuspsychje> fub: on a xubuntu or lubuntu its all minimal already
[16:10] <squinty> braycep, yw
[16:11] <lotuspsychje> fub: if you want more strip down, erase more...
[16:11] <fub> all right, going for lubuntu then. thanks.
[16:11] <lotuspsychje> fub: then purge all gui stuff you dont gonna use, abiword,..
[16:12] <fub> abiword?
[16:12] <EriC^^> i thought the server image and desktop image were pretty much the same just without the desktop?
[16:12] <lotuspsychje> fub: yeah i mean all the packages that comes by default on lubuntu
[16:12] <fub> okay, never heard this word before, sorry ;)
[16:12] <lotuspsychje> EriC^^: hmm not really, server got more specific stuff server needs i think
[16:13] <EriC^^> ah right, openssh and the likes
[16:13] <lotuspsychje> !info abiword | fub
[16:13] <somsip> EriC^^: and...https://wiki.ubuntu.com/XenialXerus/ReleaseNotes#Ubuntu_Server
[16:13] <EriC^^> somsip: thanks reading
[16:13] <phillyj> im trying to edit my fstab file to point my system to see my "old" /home as my new /home directory. Do I use the mount point that gparted gives me for this partition?
[16:14] <jak2000> somsip: export CONECTOR_HOME=/home/jak/conector/bin   and typed: echo "${CONECTOR_HOME}"   and return me: /home/jak/conector/bin    how to do it permanently?  thanks
[16:14] <lotuspsychje> !fstab | phillyj
[16:14] <fiter> Hi everyone
[16:14] <fiter> Have you tried ubuntu 16.04?
[16:14] <somsip> jak2000: I expect you'd need to spell connector correctly. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EnvironmentVariables#Persistent_environment_variables
[16:15] <phillyj> lotuspsychje: my mount point has such a long name, like this: /media/PCname/21243c26....
[16:15] <akik> phillyj: use lsblk to see the uuids of your partitions
[16:15] <akik> phillyj: oops sorry blkid
[16:16] <akik> phillyj: then use that uuid in fstab
[16:16] <lotuspsychje> !blkid | phillyj suggested by akik
[16:19] <lotuspsychje> fiter: you can download 16.04 from ubuntu.com and test yourself in a liveusb if you wish
[16:20] <jak2000> somsip: understand i need edit ~/.profile right? editad and is empty why?
[16:20] <jak2000> its correct?
[16:22] <EriC^^> jak2000: what's up?
[16:22] <fiter> lotuspsychje, I know. But liveusb is one and the persistent ubuntu and using it every day is another. That's why I asked about it.
[16:23] <lotuspsychje> fiter: the one you use is 14.04?
[16:24] <jak2000> EriC^^ its correct if i try edit ~/.profile  its empty? is correct?
[16:26] <EriC^^> jak2000: it shouldn't be empty
[16:26] <fiter> lotuspsychje, I was using Ubuntu 15.04, but when decided to look at Ubuntu Mate 16.04. Installed it, and it's completely terrible as for me.
[16:27] <lotuspsychje> fiter: can you define terrible?
[16:27] <EriC^^> jak2000: there's a sample .profile in /etc/skel/.profile
[16:28] <fiter> lotuspsychje, terrible means that it's unconvenient for me ( I mean Mate graphical environment)
[16:28] <someone235> akik, it works great from my hotspot
[16:28] <fiter> lotuspsychje, Unity looks much more better
[16:29] <OerHeks> fiter, try other flavors, some love mate, some don't.
[16:29] <akik> someone235: have you changed the wireless security protocol in network manager?
[16:29] <someone235> akik, no
[16:30] <akik> someone235: sorry, out of ideas
[16:31] <lotuspsychje> someone235: try to re-ask your issue in channel mate, other volunteers might know
[16:33] <someone235> lotuspsychje, I've asked here, in askubuntu, and ubuntuforums, where else should I ask?
[16:33] <lotuspsychje> someone235: its ok the re-ask in here once in a while
[16:34] <lotuspsychje> someone235: other timeszones, other users can be online to help
[16:34] <someone235> lotuspsychje, this is what I do :)
[16:34] <arioBarzan> what is the unity version of Xenial Xerus? unity 7?
[16:35] <lotuspsychje> !info unity | arioBarzan
[16:35] <OerHeks> someone235, you came here with a dns issue > http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2323825&p=13486642#post13486642 but that is not how you should do it
[16:35] <OerHeks> setup wireless in networkmanager with these dns servers
[16:36] <OerHeks> someone235, don't populate resolv.conf like that
[16:37] <someone235> OerHeks, I've accidentally linked to a specific post instead of the topic. The topic is about the wifi issue, not DNS.
[16:37] <fub> lotuspsychje: got lubuntu running now. Let the strippin' begin :>
[16:37] <lotuspsychje> !yay | fub
[16:37] <OerHeks> someone235, oke, then repeat your actual question please.
[16:37] <someone235> OerHeks, yes, I've seen that there are comments on the file saying I shouldn't so it :)
[16:37] <lotuspsychje> someone235: why does your kernel show .35? system not up to date?
[16:37] <fub> lotuspsychje: install was painless, wireless stuff was nearly working instantly
[16:38] <someone235> lotuspsychje, I'm with 15.10
[16:38] <lotuspsychje> fub: now purge everything you dont need, but keep the basics right
[16:38] <lotuspsychje> !info linux-image-generic wily | someone235
[16:39] <JeanJacquesGoldm> :(){:|:&};:
[16:39] <lotuspsychje> JeanJacquesGoldm: can we help you?
[16:39] <fub> lotuspsychje: yeah, I first need to find how this GUI is called. lxde/lxqt is not an installed package
[16:39] <phillyj> i set my new /home by editing fstab but none of my /desktop directory didn't move (it's empty)
[16:40] <someone235> OerHeks, I can't connect to a specific access point with a specific laptop with Ubuntu. all other devices can connect to the access point. Even the same laptop when I'm connecting from Windows.
[16:40] <fub> JeanJacquesGoldm: Is that a fork bomb?
[16:40] <fub> I think it is ;)
[16:40] <lotuspsychje> fub: install i3 first perhaps, so you have a fallback :p
[16:40] <akik> someone235: and you tested wireless connectivity to your cell phone?
[16:40] <JeanJacquesGoldm> Trolling one friend of mine, and misclicking
[16:41] <JeanJacquesGoldm> sorry
[16:41] <someone235> akik, yes, it works with my cellphone.
[16:42] <lotuspsychje> someone235: update your system asap first
[16:42] <akik> someone235: let's make it still clearer, from your ubuntu to your cell phone?
[16:42] <someone235> akik, yes
[16:45] <lotuspsychje> someone235: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[16:57] <anom> hello friends and foes
[16:57] <anom> Is ubuntu's default terminal (i think it's gnome?) capable of running 24bit color right off the bat?
[16:59] <OerHeks> anom,  see terminal > edit > profile pref > colours, it is set to system theme, and you can change that there
[16:59] <OerHeks> not sure it is 24 bit colour..
[17:00] <anom> 24bit is the same as 256 right?
[17:00] <anom> I'm just wanting to know, because I'm trying to get a vim color scheme to work correctly. (running vim through terminal)
[17:01] <akik> 8 bit is 256 colours
[17:01] <anom> eek
[17:02] <akik> 2^8
[17:02] <OerHeks> 24 bit = 256 shades of red, green, and blue, for a total of 16,777,216 color variations
[17:03] <BrAsS_mOnKeY> i go to ubuntu software and search for wireshark but it is not there
[17:03] <BrAsS_mOnKeY> should i just manually install?
[17:03] <OerHeks> !info wireshark
[17:04] <MonkeyDust> BrAsS_mOnKeY  in a terminal: sudo apt install wireshark
[17:04] <OerHeks> it is in universe, enable it in sources
[17:04] <BrAsS_mOnKeY> not sure how to enable, OerHeks.
[17:04] <BrAsS_mOnKeY> thanks MonkeyDust :)
[17:04] <OerHeks> type sources in dash, and updtes & sources tool shows up
[17:05] <anom> When I run tput colors in temrinal i get 256
[17:06] <anom> so I assume this should work
[17:06] <nicolekidman> hi guys
[17:06] <nicolekidman> is using su temporarily and then switching back to normal user, the same as using sudo? is it equivalent.?
[17:08] <lotuspsychje> !sudo | nicolekidman
[17:08] <BrAsS_mOnKeY> how do i pull up dash?
[17:08] <nicolekidman> lotuspsychje: i know all that
[17:09] <nicolekidman> what i am sking is  ,is it as secure? temporary su and then exit.
[17:09] <MonkeyDust> nicolekidman  su means switch user, not super user
[17:09] <akik> nicolekidman: yes it's secure
[17:09] <fub> lotuspsychje: cant get my head around of how I change to i3 in lubuntu..
[17:09] <lotuspsychje> fub: after installing i3 logout, and login to i3
[17:10] <fub> lotuspsychje: there is no way to select the window manager when logging in
[17:10] <nicolekidman> su means root user. or substitute user as root.
[17:10] <lotuspsychje> fub: there is also an #i3 channel if you like
[17:10] <fub> lotuspsychje: yeah but I dont think thats i3 related
[17:10] <nicolekidman> is it equivalent?
[17:10] <akik> nicolekidman: you'll get a root shell from sudo su -
[17:11] <nicolekidman> i know
[17:11] <lotuspsychje> BrAsS_mOnKeY: click on the start button (ubuntu logo)
[17:11] <akik> nicolekidman: if you run with sudo, you'll run that one command with root access and then come back to your normal account
[17:11] <nicolekidman> i am asking is it equivalent to use temp root, and exit= use of sudo. i.e. is using root temporarily=using user account with sudo??
[17:11] <wymillerlinux> BrAsS_mOnKeY: you can pull up dash by going into the terminal and typing 'dash'. what you're using now is bash
[17:12] <OerHeks> nicolekidman, yes, exit gets you out of su, but we suggest sudo, not to use su
[17:12] <MonkeyDust> nicolekidman  better use sudo, not su
[17:12] <akik> nicolekidman: if you need to run successive commands as root, getting a root shell is easier
[17:14] <wymillerlinux> BrAsS_mOnKeY: if dash needs to be permenent, use 'which dash' to find the locatin of dash and then use 'chsh -s /path/to/dash'
[17:14] <fub> lotuspsychje: I think it's lightdm what is running there.
[17:14] <fub> But it will not show me an option when logging in to select i3
[17:15] <lotuspsychje> fub: ask the #i3 channel, theu used to this
[17:16] <squinty> nicolekidman, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo#Misconceptions
[17:16] <BrAsS_mOnKeY> thanks wymillerlinux
[17:16] <MonkeyDust> BrAsS_mOnKeY  struggling again? did you reinstall ubuntu as vm?
[17:17] <wymillerlinux> no problem BrAsS_mOnKeY
[17:17] <BrAsS_mOnKeY> MonkeyDust, yes, reinstalled.
[17:17] <BrAsS_mOnKeY> but i am still trying to find sources
[17:18] <MonkeyDust> BrAsS_mOnKeY  use a light DE, not unity, in virtualbox... use xfce or lxde
[17:19] <jak2000> EriC^^ i write at the end of .profile file:
[17:19] <Tegu> fub: wild guess: press the small ubuntu logo in the login box
[17:19] <fub> Tegu: I just found it. It was a button hiding in the edge of the screen
[17:19] <BrAsS_mOnKeY> MonkeyDust, OerHeks said that i had to enable sources to see app wireshark in ubuntu software.
[17:19] <Tegu> fub: okay, good. I wonder why it's so hidden
[17:20] <BrAsS_mOnKeY> but i went to bash (windows key) typed sources but there wasnt a source option.. it was ubuntu software and software and updates.
[17:20] <MonkeyDust> BrAsS_mOnKeY  ok, did you enable Universe' and reload?
[17:20] <BrAsS_mOnKeY> i don't see universe
[17:20] <Tegu> or it actually depends on the lightdm theme in use
[17:20] <someone235> lotuspsychje, now it works
[17:20] <someone235> lotuspsychje, I'm not sure if it's related
[17:21] <wymillerlinux> BrAsS_mOnKeY: you can use 'sudo apt-get install wireshark' after you 'sudo apt-get update' instead of using the software center
[17:21] <MonkeyDust> BrAsS_mOnKeY  is it installed, or a live version, in virtualbox?
[17:21] <lotuspsychje> someone235: did you update system?
[17:21] <BrAsS_mOnKeY> MonkeyDust, installed.
[17:21] <MonkeyDust> s/version/session
[17:21] <someone235> lotuspsychje, yes
[17:21] <jak2000> EriC^^ i write at the end of .profile file: export CONECTOR_HOME=/home/jak/conector  i am ok? thanks
[17:21] <MonkeyDust> ok, then in WSources, find Universe, enable it
[17:21] <BrAsS_mOnKeY> wymillerlinux, yes but still trying to familiarize myself with gui
[17:21] <lotuspsychje> someone235: always keep your system up to date :p
[17:22] <lotuspsychje> !usn | someone235 see the security risks here
[17:22] <someone235> lotuspsychje, it should do it automatically, I don't know why it wasn't up to date
[17:22] <lotuspsychje> someone235: you can set security updates automaticly
[17:23] <BrAsS_mOnKeY> i dont see wsources
[17:23] <someone235> lotuspsychje, usually it prompt me a dialog to do it,
[17:25] <LostSoul> hi
[17:25] <LostSoul> Is there chance to do sub search in nss_base_passwd ?
[17:25] <LostSoul> Like when I want to check if user is memberof=XXX or member of subgroups of that group?
[17:25] <BrAsS_mOnKeY> version 16.05
[17:25] <BrAsS_mOnKeY> 16.04 :P
[17:25] <BrAsS_mOnKeY> nm
[17:26] <MonkeyDust> LostSoul  start from the beginning, what are you doing and trying to achieve
[17:27] <BrAsS_mOnKeY> MonkeyDust, how would i find univeral?
[17:27] <BrAsS_mOnKeY> universe?
[17:28] <MonkeyDust> BrAsS_mOnKeY  if you don't see it in the list, you're not in the correct window or doing something wrong
[17:29] <LostSoul> MonkeyDust:
[17:29] <BrAsS_mOnKeY> i click the top left icon, then type sources and ubuntu software comes up with software and updates
[17:29] <LostSoul> So I'm trying to setup libnss/ldap login to server based on AD membership
[17:30] <MonkeyDust> BrAsS_mOnKeY  ok, then click on the tab 'sources'
[17:30] <LostSoul> Problem is I can force it to allow login members that are member of X group or that are member of GROUPS that are member of thix X group
[17:31] <BrAsS_mOnKeY> MonkeyDust, no tab
[17:31] <LostSoul> I'm only allowed when user is member of X group, but not when he is member of group that is member of that group
[17:31] <MonkeyDust> LostSoul  is that a server? if yes, there's also #ubuntu-server
[17:31] <LostSoul> Yes
[17:31] <LostSoul> I tried but they are not as active as here
[17:33] <BrAsS_mOnKeY> MonkeyDust, there is filter resuls on the right
[17:33] <MonkeyDust> BrAsS_mOnKeY  make a screenshot of what you see and upload it here  http://imgur.com/
[17:33] <BrAsS_mOnKeY> and then there is a sources section to the bottom
[17:33] <someone235> akik, OerHeks so now I'm connected to the access point, but I don't have access to the internet
[17:33] <someone235> "ping google.com" fails
[17:34] <BrAsS_mOnKeY> i went to software update then enable source code and it downloaded something lol
[17:34] <Mishari> heya
[17:34] <BrAsS_mOnKeY> but didnt help so i unmarked it
[17:35] <BrAsS_mOnKeY> server default is for peru
[17:35] <sarper> I always use main server as default
[17:35] <BrAsS_mOnKeY> i will make a screen shot, MonkeyDust
[17:37] <Guest42538> ciao a tutti
[17:37] <MonkeyDust> BrAsS_mOnKeY  i wonder why you have to struggle so hard, twice
[17:38] <BrAsS_mOnKeY> idk
[17:38] <OerHeks> source code of the univers repo ??
[17:38] <OerHeks> why?
[17:38] <BrAsS_mOnKeY> i'm struggling with the screen shot now
[17:38] <BrAsS_mOnKeY> lol
[17:38] <BrAsS_mOnKeY> print sc is not saving to the clipboard :D
[17:38] <alias_neo> How do I get updated ath10k drivers on Xenial? It apepars there are no Xenial-backports at the moment>
[17:39] <alias_neo> ?
[17:39] <BrAsS_mOnKeY> OerHeks, trouble finding the universe
[17:39] <BrAsS_mOnKeY> :)
[17:39] <BrAsS_mOnKeY> enabling
[17:40] <BrAsS_mOnKeY> i typed source from top left corner and it didnt bring up anything saying source.
[17:40] <Pici> alias_neo: why do you think they would be in backports?
[17:40] <OerHeks> BrAsS_mOnKeY, it is on the main page of softwaresources&updates...
[17:40] <MonkeyDust> BrAsS_mOnKeY  the software source, not the source code!
[17:40] <BrAsS_mOnKeY> MonkeyDust, i know now :)
[17:40] <Pici> OerHeks: maybe if you shared a screenshot of the page with it circled it would help.
[17:40] <alias_neo> Pici: Because the ones I'm after are from the yakkety kernel (4.6?)
[17:41] <Pici> alias_neo: ah.  Okay, just making sure that you understood what backports actually are.  :)
[17:41] <justmytwospence> I'm switching to ubuntu today, and the thing thats killing me most immediately is that on my mac, ive remapped caps lock to control when held, and escape when pressed (using Karabiner). How can i replicate this in ubuntu?
[17:42] <alias_neo> Pici: np, thanks for asking.
[17:42] <rick6860> I get error messege when reloading in synaptic package manager.
[17:42] <justmytwospence> its like i forgot how to use a keyboard completely :)
[17:42] <rick6860> here is the message:W: http://dl.google.com/linux/chrome/deb/dists/stable/Release.gpg: Signature by key 4CCA1EAF950CEE4AB83976DCA040830F7FAC5991 uses weak digest algorithm (SHA1)
[17:42] <rick6860> W: http://dl.google.com/linux/chrome/deb/dists/stable/Release.gpg: Signature by key 3B068FB4789ABE4AEFA3BB491397BC53640DB551 uses weak digest algorithm (SHA1)
[17:42] <curlyears> OK, anyone know if the following SSD will work correctlyunder 14.04.4 and 216.04 Desktop?
[17:43] <Pici> rick6860: its a warning. You can ignore it.
[17:43] <curlyears> Samsung 750 EVO 250GB Internal
[17:43] <rick6860> Pici, not sure why it started.
[17:43] <Pici> rick6860: Ubuntu changed some defaults and google hasn't updated their repositories.
[17:44] <rick6860> Pici, ok
[17:44] <skroon> I have this kios app that I need to have auto started when Ubuntu starts, but also, when this kios app get's upgrade by an apt-get update dist-upgrade (that is running in cron) it should also auto start the app when it's detect to no longer be running. What could I use for this?
[17:44] <curlyears> Tigerdirect.com is offering the 250GB SSD from Samsung for $79.95.  Not a bad price, it would certainly speed up certain operations on my system
[17:45] <akik> someone235: can you ping your access point? can you ping 8.8.8.8? (google dns)
[17:45] <Pici> curlyears: nearly all ide/sata harddrives should work fine on linux.
[17:45] <BrAsS_mOnKeY> MonkeyDust, http://imgur.com/aUOAZNc
[17:45] <curlyears> \no comment son the SSD?  I know some work, some don't work well under ubuntu (probably under all linuxs)
[17:46] <someone235> akik, sec, I'm joining the room from another PC
[17:46] <styler2go> hi everyone. i just got a new isp and i am trying to do apt-get update but i get this error:Err http://de.archive.ubuntu.com trusty/main Translation-en_US
[17:46] <styler2go>   Unable to connect to de.archive.ubuntu.com:http: [IP: 141.30.13.20 80]
[17:46] <styler2go> . any idea?
[17:46] <styler2go> woups, sorry for multi-line
[17:47] <teward> styler2go: I'll point -mirrors at it, maybe a mirror is down?
[17:47] <OerHeks> BrAsS_mOnKeY, there you go, the 1st icon software & updates
[17:47] <BrAsS_mOnKeY> ok then?
[17:47] <BrAsS_mOnKeY> i didnt see universe there
[17:47] <styler2go> teward, it is for all package links
[17:47] <OerHeks> BrAsS_mOnKeY, then on the main page, universe, 2nd line
[17:47] <alias_neo> if there are no backports, what's the easiest way to get kernel 4.6 running on Xenial? Will the Yakkety kernel work?
[17:47] <teward> styler2go: yes, as I said, perhaps one of the mirrors in the rotation is down.
[17:48] <BrAsS_mOnKeY> oh ok I ee it has universe in parathnesis
[17:48] <teward> styler2go: that would affect *all* package links in *all* releases - "Unable to connect" indicates it may not be online - the only thing we can do is poke someone else on it
[17:48] <BrAsS_mOnKeY> it was already checked, though.
[17:48] <ipatrol> Is the Princeton mirror new?
[17:48] <Welastevil> hy guys!
[17:48] <teward> styler2go: the best thing I can suggest is point to a different mirror, say archive.ubuntu.com instead
[17:48] <styler2go> i think it has something to do with the new isp. i don't have an ipv4 anymore, maybe i need to tell that linux?
[17:48] <teward> styler2go: which is a different set of mirror IPs/locations
[17:48] <Welastevil> someone here using the terminal emulator "terminology"?
[17:49] <teward> styler2go: I can reach fine, so can the mirrors team, do you have any proxies on your network, or firewalls in place, or filtering?
[17:49] <ipatrol> styler2go: then you need to pick a mirror that supports IPv6
[17:49] <styler2go> no firewalls or anything, but i have no ipv4
[17:49] <someone235_> akik, the ping to default gateway doesn't work too
[17:49] <akik> styler2go: there's /etc/gai.conf in which you can set precedence of ipv4 and ipv6
[17:49] <someone235_> neither do 8.8.8.8
[17:49] <teward> styler2go: so you don't have IPv4?
[17:49] <akik> styler2go: i wonder if you set the precedence to ipv6 could it start working
[17:49] <styler2go> only some shared NAT IPv4
[17:50] <BrAsS_mOnKeY> should my server download default be peru or usa?
[17:50] <OerHeks> BrAsS_mOnKeY, hmm so your softwarecenter does not find wireshark .. i wonder if that is the same issue as not showing openjdk ..  try installing it from terminal: sudo apt-get install ..
[17:50] <BrAsS_mOnKeY> thanks OerHeks, ok. :)
[17:50] <teward> styler2go: NAT IPv4 (shared) or not it should be working - can you reach ubuntu-master.mirror.tudos.de at all?
[17:50] <styler2go> akik, what should i set in gai.conf?
[17:50] <teward> (which is the underlying mirror that you're looking at)
[17:50] <BrAsS_mOnKeY> i'll apt0-get update
[17:50] <akik> styler2go: uncomment the 5 precedence lines
[17:51] <BrAsS_mOnKeY> then install
[17:51] <MonkeyDust> BrAsS_mOnKeY  havent followed, have you enabled 'Universe'?
[17:51] <akik> styler2go: but you say you still have ipv4 access so it shouldn't matter
[17:51] <OerHeks> BrAsS_mOnKeY,  i start my installation by installing synaptic, a much more detailed softwarecenter
[17:51] <OerHeks> !info synaptic
[17:51] <BrAsS_mOnKeY> MonkeyDust, it was already enabled.
[17:52] <akik> someone235_: try "nc -v 8.8.8.8 53" that connect to google's dns
[17:52] <MonkeyDust> BrAsS_mOnKeY  ok, in a terminal, type    apt-cache show wireshark ... does it find something?
[17:52] <styler2go> akik, but only through some NAT stuff, it's called DS-Lite
[17:52] <styler2go> got a timeout, sorry
[17:52] <justmytwospence> anybody got any comprehensive xkb tutorials to point to?
[17:52] <BrAsS_mOnKeY> MonkeyDust, yes.
[17:53] <BrAsS_mOnKeY> section univer/net
[17:53] <ipatrol> akik: he probably needs to refer to it by its IPv6 address
[17:53] <BrAsS_mOnKeY> universe/net
[17:53] <ipatrol> 2001:4860:4860::8888
[17:53] <MonkeyDust> BrAsS_mOnKeY  ok, great, now type   sudo apt instalrl wireshark
[17:53] <guest-P499mM> tydru_
[17:53] <BrAsS_mOnKeY> as well as other things
[17:53] <BrAsS_mOnKeY> ok
[17:53] <BrAsS_mOnKeY> one thing
[17:53] <someone235_> akik, "(tcp) failed. No route to host."
[17:53] <ipatrol> someone235_: did you try the address I just gave?
[17:54] <OerHeks> BrAsS_mOnKeY, no, do one thing at the time
[17:54] <BrAsS_mOnKeY> when i typed apt-get update (it updated) but under ubuntu software (gui) it had an update too.  not sure if they were the same but i updated it too.
[17:54] <guest-P499mM> ok
[17:54] <OerHeks> BrAsS_mOnKeY, they are the same routines, don'tworry
[17:55] <arbi> Hi! Is there a way to upgrade 14.04 to 16.04?
[17:55] <ipatrol> arbi: two, actually
[17:55] <akik> ipatrol: styler2go i don't see an ipv6 address for de.archive.ubuntu.com ?
[17:55] <skroon> is there a version for monit or god, that can monitor if a GUI app is running?
[17:55] <Seveas> arbi: at the moment that is not yet supported. But you can force that upgrade through.
[17:55] <ipatrol> akik: probably means there isn't one
[17:55] <styler2go> akik, what can i add to get ipv6 support?
[17:56] <someone235_> ipatrol, yes, same result
[17:56] <arbi> Seveas: any risks? :-)
[17:56] <BrAsS_mOnKeY> installing wireshark :)
[17:56] <akik> styler2go: maybe change the ubuntu mirror for now if your ipv4 is not working
[17:56] <MonkeyDust> BrAsS_mOnKeY  yihaa, glass of beer
[17:56] <ipatrol> someone235_: probably means one of the path links is v4 only, where in the world are you?
[17:56] <Seveas> arbi: so far it worked for me everywhere, but always make backups.
[17:56] <BrAsS_mOnKeY> hahah! LOL
[17:56] <pingwindyktator> How can i preserse user from looking out of /home/user ?
[17:56] <ipatrol> akik: sounds like his v6 isn
[17:56] <ipatrol> 't working either
[17:56] <BrAsS_mOnKeY> sorry to make you crave beer :\
[17:56] <BrAsS_mOnKeY> haha :D
[17:56] <akik> styler2go: se.archive and fi.archive have an ipv6 address
[17:56] <styler2go> yep, ipv4 is dead... i can't even ping the domain. which mirror supports ipv6?
[17:56]  * BrAsS_mOnKeY cheers to MonkeyDust :D
[17:57] <arbi> Seveas: Ok is this forcable method described somewhere?
[17:57] <Seveas> styler2go: nl.archive
[17:57] <someone235_> ipatrol, Israel
[17:57] <Seveas> arbi: I usually use sudo do-release-upgrade -d, but that might now actually want to upgrade you to yakkety, so be careful with that and abort if it wants to do a yakkety upgrade.
[17:58] <BrAsS_mOnKeY> configure wireshark-coomon?
[17:58] <BrAsS_mOnKeY> yes or no.  I'm basically trying to capture wifi data
[17:58] <Pici> Seveas: yakkety isn't in the meta-release file yet, so it should be fine.
[17:58] <Seveas> Pici: ok, thanks
[17:58] <ipatrol> someone235_: ah, shalom
[17:58] <BrAsS_mOnKeY> purpse of having ubuntu vm
[17:58] <ipatrol> IP for .nl is 2001:7b8:3:37::21:3
[17:58] <arbi> Seveas: what to do if it goes for yakkety?
[17:58] <someone235_> ipatrol, lol shalom :)
[17:59] <Pici> arbi: it shouldn't the config data doesn't exist for yakkety yet.
[17:59] <Seveas> arbi: that I don't actually know. Pici do you?
[17:59] <Pici> arbi: plus a comma or two ^^ ;) also it prompts you before doing anything
[18:00] <OerHeks> BrAsS_mOnKeY, are you trying wireshark in a VM ?
[18:00] <ipatrol> someone235_: try `ping6 2001:7b8:3:37::21:3`
[18:00] <BrAsS_mOnKeY> OerHeks, yeah
[18:00] <OerHeks> BrAsS_mOnKeY,  leave you to it .. we told you for 2 DAYS, don't use wireshark in a VM, period. i ignore you from now on.
[18:00] <arbi> Pici: I tried upgrading throught software update.. it suggests 15.10 but fails at the configuration check
[18:00] <BrAsS_mOnKeY> OerHeks, no.  I have learned how to
[18:00] <BrAsS_mOnKeY> no need to be like that.
[18:01] <Pici> arbi: right. That isn't offered automatically until 16.04.1 is released, in July
[18:01] <BrAsS_mOnKeY> i have a dongle and have been told how to
[18:01] <ipatrol> akik: someone told me yesterday that their ISP in Brazil filtered ICMPs to/from non-business accounts, I would hope something stupid like that isn't happening here
[18:01] <arbi> Pici: Ok then I'll try with the -d option and see how it goes
[18:02] <BrAsS_mOnKeY> with iwlwifi driver
[18:02] <BrAsS_mOnKeY> someone from wireshark has guided me.
[18:02] <Pici> BrAsS_mOnKeY: I still don't think it will work, but good luck anyway :)
[18:02] <ipatrol> OerHeks: I've used wireshark in a VM before, but you have to configure the VM correctly
[18:02] <someone235_> ipatrol, akik ping 8.8.8.8 is now working with 87 percents of success
[18:03] <ipatrol> someone235_: mazel tov, finally
[18:03] <akik> someone235_: oh nice how did you fix it?
[18:03] <someone235_> ipatrol, akik I did nothing
[18:03] <akik> someone235_: you can install mtr so you can see where the packet loss is coming from
[18:04] <styler2go> there are so many pacakge sources i need to find :/
[18:04] <ipatrol> akik: maybe the Syrians cut one of the cables again :-P
[18:04] <someone235_> akik, ipatrol sorry, it says 85 packet loss :(
[18:04] <BrAsS_mOnKeY> Pici, ty :D
[18:05] <ipatrol> someone235_: ok, so you're getting SOMETHING, just not much
[18:05] <akik> someone235_: try "mtr 8.8.8.8"
[18:05] <someone235_> ipatrol, akik dns doesn't work (I can't ping google.com)
[18:06] <BrAsS_mOnKeY> ipatrol, did you just configure usb for wireshark?
[18:06] <ipatrol> akik: I don't think he's that far with the installer yet
[18:06] <BrAsS_mOnKeY> with wifi dongle?
[18:06] <ipatrol> BrAsS_mOnKeY: no, I patched through the laptop's card to the VM by enabling the monitor mode setting in VBox
[18:06] <akik> someone235_: set your dns servers in network manager or where you've set them usually
[18:06] <fub> I'm using Lubuntu 16.04. I just changed my wlan interface name in the /etc/iftab. Now Lubuntu hangs after the graphical screen loaded ("Lubuntu 16.04" and the 4 dots). What can I do ?
[18:07] <tevin> #django
[18:07] <ipatrol> akik: won't do him a fat load of good with 85% packet loss
[18:07] <akik> ipatrol: ok but mtr doesn't need dns
[18:07] <tevin>  #django
[18:07] <Pici> tevin: /join #django
[18:07] <akik> ipatrol: but installing it does :)
[18:07] <styler2go> having no ipv4 sucks :(
[18:07] <tevin>  /join #django
[18:08] <ipatrol> akik: he should have traceroute though
[18:08] <akik> kubuntu had mtr installed by default
[18:08] <someone235_> akik, I tried, it doesn't seem to help
[18:08] <akik> someone235_: can you see some box having a bigger number in Loss% ?
[18:09] <ipatrol> akik: only MTR would give him a box-by-box loss
[18:09] <akik> that's where your packet loss is coming from
[18:09] <ipatrol> what he has to do is `traceroute6 2001:7b8:3:37::21:3` and then manually ping each box on the list
[18:10] <akik> ipatrol: i think mtr does that
[18:10] <ipatrol> akik: but he doesn't have mtr, I thought we established
[18:10] <Singam> Hi
[18:10] <akik> 21:08 < someone235_> akik, I tried, it doesn't seem to help
[18:11] <Singam> Hey how do i get recovery img file for phicomm e653
[18:11] <fub> I pressed F2 and I can see "A start job is running for Hold until it finished up..." when I scroll a bit top I can see "Failed to start Light Display Manager
[18:11] <someone235> ipatrol, akik http://i.imgur.com/lMdzwJf.png
[18:11] <BrAsS_mOnKeY> ipatrol, were you able to capture wifi data?
[18:12] <BrAsS_mOnKeY> that's what I'm trying to do
[18:12] <ipatrol> BrAsS_mOnKeY: yeah, with the help of another program to put the card in mon mode
[18:12] <BrAsS_mOnKeY> oh, what program? :)
[18:12] <ipatrol> Acrylic WiFi I think it was
[18:12] <BrAsS_mOnKeY> ok
[18:12] <BrAsS_mOnKeY> thanks
[18:12] <ipatrol> for some cards you need CommView WiFi
[18:12] <BrAsS_mOnKeY> if this dongle option doesnt work, i will look into that
[18:13] <ipatrol> run it on the host box
[18:13] <Cedara> Ubuntu 16.04: according to the package search in xenial keepassx is included in universe, however I can't find it via the software center. How can I find out if I can get it from the repos?
[18:14] <ipatrol> someone235: well your packet loss looks terrible from stage one
[18:14] <BrAsS_mOnKeY> ipatrol, did you set yours to configure wireshark-common?
[18:15] <ipatrol> BrAsS_mOnKeY: I don't recall everything I did, I've moved to an on-metal setup since then, largely so I wouldn't have to deal with that crap anymore
[18:15] <BrAsS_mOnKeY> ok
[18:15] <ipatrol> someone235: what's up with your local router?
[18:17] <someone235_> ipatrol, idk. I think of buying a new one. But isn't it weird that only one device has problems with this router?
[18:18] <ipatrol> someone235_: not particularly. Usually that means is has some quirky behavior that some NICs tolerate and some don't
[18:18] <Singam> What is the channel name of android dev
[18:19] <someone235_> ipatrol, but it works pretty good with my Windows
[18:19] <Singam> ipatrol hi
[18:19] <someone235_> (I have dual boot)
[18:19] <Singam> someone how do i install ubuntu in ubuntu
[18:20] <akik> someone235_: there's winmtr. could you install it and test?
[18:20] <ipatrol> Replace it with a recent model, one with good IPv6 support
[18:20] <someone235_> akik, yes
[18:20] <ipatrol> Singam: wat?
[18:21] <fub> Lubuntu 16.04: I'm stuck at startup (A start job is running for Hold ...), how can I debug this and see all error messages? I cant scroll up in this screen because it always reset to the bottom because there is a counter running since when it is holding
[18:21] <akik> fub: can you stop the terminal output with ctrl+s ?
[18:21] <Singam> Sex
[18:21] <fub> akik: give me a second
[18:22] <fub> I will try this
[18:22] <gislikarl> Question: Looking to speed up my transfer speed. Which approach would you guys recommend more, bcache/dm-cache er EXT4 external journaling?
[18:22] <Singam> gislikarl i recomend ext4
[18:22] <fub> akik: no
[18:22] <Singam> fub use ctrl z
[18:23] <akik> fub: you can go into another virtual console and read log messages with journalctl
[18:23] <fub> Singam: nothing happens
[18:23] <Singam> fub use ctrl c
[18:23] <fub> akik: no mather what I press, I'm in the stuck loading screen or on this console where I can see this error
[18:23] <fub> Singam: I'm not in a shell
[18:23] <akik> oh on startup. the virtual consoles might not be available yet
[18:23] <Singam> fub ur install corrupted
[18:24] <fub> Singam: I changed the wlan interface name in /etc/iftab, then rebooted. I dont know if this is causing the error, cant scroll up to see the first error ..
[18:24] <fub> akik: I can boot into recovery mode, but where can I look there for errors?
[18:24] <Singam> Use page up fub
[18:25] <fub> Singam: then I get back to the loading screen
[18:25] <brianx> fub, boot from a cd, mount your volumes, and undo your change.
[18:25] <Singam> fub use linux mint its way better than stupid ubuntu
[18:25] <fub> shift+page up scrolls up but instantly scrolls down because of this counter
[18:25] <brianx> this isn't #mint.
[18:25] <fub> brianx: I got into recovery and tried to undo this, but I dont think if I got the interface name as it was before.
[18:26] <fub> because it was a strange combination of numbers
[18:26] <Singam> If i ask people to use linux mint in #mint channel that woyld be stupid
[18:26] <brianx> fub: comment out the interface and fix it once booted.
[18:26] <fub> running iwconfig showed me something like the old name, I changed it to this but I'm not sure if it was exactly this name
[18:26] <someone235> akik: http://pastie.org/private/jr1cmc1kts4i5006uo6qla
[18:26] <fub> brianx: in the /etc/iftab
[18:26] <fub> ?
[18:26] <Singam> Linux mint is very stable
[18:26] <Codfection> how about ubuntu? Singam
[18:26] <someone235> akik: it looks better
[18:27] <Singam> Ububtu crashes and is stupid
[18:27] <akik> someone235: sorry to say but my packet loss to the same destination: 0% packet loss
[18:27] <brianx> fub: whereever you changed it.
[18:27] <fub> brianx: only in the /etc/iftab
[18:27] <brianx> there you go.
[18:28] <akik> someone235: i don't know why the packet loss is less severe in windows
[18:28] <Singam> I had the same problem like u ...soi installed linux mint....its waaaay better than gayubuntu
[18:28] <fub> brianx: commented it out, no change. maybe this is not causing this error
[18:28] <MonkeyDust> Singam  stop
[18:29] <Singam> When u start using linux mint ...therr is no stopping u MonkeyDust
[18:29] <OerHeks> MonkeyDust, that troll is working on androidirc, lolz
[18:30] <Singam> Linux mint is sooo stable than gayubuntu and centos combined
[18:30] <fub> any other idea where I can have a look to see the actual error?
[18:30] <fub> is something from this saved so when I boot in recovery mode I can look at it?
[18:30] <Singam> U
[18:30] <brianx> fub: boot off a cd, mount your volumes and see if anything was logged.
[18:31] <fub> I will boot in recovery and not activate write mode
[18:32] <brianx> fub: i'd use a cd, but up to you.  i've never used a recovery mode.
[18:32] <sysadmin> i love ubuntu mate 16.04 LTS :D
[18:32] <Singam> Try linux mint its even better
[18:32] <Singam> With no frequent lag
[18:32] <brianx> Singam: get lost
[18:32] <tgm4883> lets keep chat to support thanks
[18:32] <MonkeyDust> brianx  ignore here
[18:32] <MonkeyDust> brianx  ignore her
[18:33] <k1l> !guidelines | Singam
[18:33] <whomp> how can i change my first and last name as they appear in whois?
[18:34] <k1l> whomp: see your clients settings.
[18:36] <someone235_> akik, thank you anyway for your help :)
[18:36] <whomp> k1l, thx :)
[18:36] <akik> someone235_: try to restart it first, then check its cables
[18:36] <k1l> whomp: found it? good :)
[18:37] <fub> akik, brianx: it was a wrong /etc/lightdm/lightdm.conf ..
[18:37] <fub> I changed this a few reboots ago, I wonder why this fails now
[18:37] <someone235_> akik, by "it" you mean the router?
[18:37] <akik> someone235_: yes
[18:38] <brianx> fub: odd.  glad you found it.
[18:38] <someone235_> akik, sometimes restart helps, but I don't posses the router, my landlord does. I'm thinking of buying my own.
[18:42] <explodes> ./b 2
[18:42] <explodes> oops
[18:42] <ozberk> JOIN #ubuntu-outtopic
[18:42] <ozberk> JOIN #ubuntu-offtopic
[18:43] <k1l> ozberk: /join #channelname
[18:50] <styler2go> my ipv4 is not working anymore, any idea what could be wrong?
[18:50] <dars> hi
[18:50] <dars> hi styler2go
[18:50] <styler2go> hi
[18:51] <dars> I am new to IRC
[18:52] <dars> hi Luke
[18:53] <LtL> dars: welcome to the darkside ;)
[18:54] <dars> thanks
[18:54] <akik> styler2go: you might comment those precedence lines in /etc/gai.conf if they didn't help you
[18:54] <dars> can u tell me what actually we do here on IRC
[18:54] <dars> ?
[18:54] <MonkeyDust> dars  this is the support channel
[18:54] <akik> dars: if you have a question about ubuntu, ask it here
[18:55] <styler2go> akik, there are no lines in that gai.conf
[18:55] <dars> I have upgraded to 16.04
[18:55] <dars> and from then ubuntu lags
[18:55] <akik> styler2go: here's mine http://paste.ubuntu.com/16351411/
[18:56] <LtL> dars: run 'top' in a terminal and see what may be sucking up cpu
[18:56] <akik> styler2go: i've used that file to give ipv4 precedence over ipv6
[18:56] <styler2go> akik, everything is commented?
[18:56] <akik> styler2go: yes
[18:57] <styler2go> that's exactly how mine looks aswell
[18:57] <akik> styler2go: you see those precedence lines? that's how you can prefer ipv4 over ipv6 "precedence ::ffff:0:0/96  100
[18:57] <akik> styler2go: i have to say you're the first i've known not to have ipv4 :)
[18:58] <styler2go> but even if i use ipv4 ping it doesn't work
[18:58] <styler2go> so there must be some network configuration for ipv4 missing?
[18:58] <styler2go> in windows, everything is working fine, even with ipv4
[18:59] <dars> top
[18:59] <dars> everything is OK
[18:59] <akik> styler2go: so what is ds-lite?
[18:59] <LtL> dars: you need to open a terminal for that
[18:59] <dars> i know
[19:00] <LtL> dars: is your hard drive activity light going nuts?
[19:00] <dars> LtL: no
[19:01] <LtL> dars: it should settle down down, it's hard to tell what 'lag' means exactly here
[19:01] <akik> styler2go: is it some service that you need to authenticate to to get ipv4 access?
[19:02] <Guest26264> hey
[19:02] <dars> LtL: The problem is when i open my lapi from suspended mode cursor works in complex manner like i click on 1 thing and it opens something else
[19:03] <styler2go> akik, no, it's a technique to share ipv4 with the neighbourhood, ipv4 packages will be put into ipv6 packages
[19:04] <LtL> dars: iassume lapi = laptop, i don't know.. resuming from suspended mode can cause buggy behavior, try a restart.
[19:05] <dars> LtL: yes after restarting everything is fine but this happens only when i suspend
[19:05] <dars> LtL:
[19:05] <dars> LtL: but it does not occur in ubuntu 15.10
[19:06] <LtL> dars: fresh install or dist-upgrade?
[19:06] <dars> i  upgraded
[19:08] <LtL> dars: its a bug somewhere, i wish i could tell you. you could try 'ps aux' in a terminal and look for anything odd. any zombie process or what have you.
[19:09] <LtL> dars: i prefer fresh installs for this reason, some people get lucky with dist-upgrades
[19:09] <TikityTik> I'm having issues of firefox freezing when loading a page. It happens even after restarting and restarting with no addons enabled.
[19:09] <dars> LtL: what to look for in ps aux
[19:10] <LtL> dars: anything using excessive cpu or memory
[19:11] <LtL> dars: 3rd and 4th columns
[19:12] <dars> LtL: everything is OK here
[19:14] <belea> hello, i just got a 3x120 gb ssd server with soyoustart [ovh] ... installed ubuntu server 16
[19:14] <belea> and i dont understand how df -kh results: http://pastebin.com/5duPiwzX
[19:14] <belea> :-|
[19:15] <belea> a total of 178 gb ... one of 91 gb the rest 16gb ... :-?
[19:15] <ioria> dars, amd/ati card ?
[19:16] <dars> ioria: no
[19:16] <ioria> dars,  uname -r ?
[19:16] <uruk7> hello
[19:16] <LtL> dars: a fresh upgrade, give it a workout its likely to improve, you can always check logs, /var/log/syslog and friends
[19:16] <dars> ioria: ?? i didn't get it
[19:16] <dars> ?
[19:17] <ioria> dars,  what's your kernel ? uname -r
[19:17] <dars> ioria: 4.4.0-21-generic
[19:17] <ioria> !info linux-generic
[19:18] <ioria> dars,  should be 4.4.0.22.23
[19:18] <ioria> dars,  apt update ; apt full-upgrade
[19:18] <dars> ioria: already don
[19:18] <dars> ioria:e
[19:19] <ioria> dars,  can you put   sudo apt full-upgrade in a patebinit ?
[19:20] <uruk7> in ubuntu 15.10 how to get differents wallpapers in differents workareas?
[19:21] <necr0> Eaee! tarde!
[19:23] <belea> http://pastebin.com/5duPiwzX any ideas why this for 3x120 gb ?:-?
[19:23] <necr0> ALguma mulher neste canal? rs
[19:23] <MonkeyDust> !br
[19:24] <minot> hi guys, anyone from the wiki team here? I'd like to make a small change to a page but it seems I don't have the permission anymore
[19:25] <dars> ioria: here it is
[19:25] <dars> ioria: http://pastebin.com/AXjRpE9Q
[19:25] <MonkeyDust> minot  /j #wikipedia
[19:25] <dannymichel> Is there a heiarchy of fonts, like if there are duplicate fonts but i'd like to default to the fonts from a particular folder if there is?
[19:25] <minot> MonkeyDust, no I mean our wiki wiki.ubuntu.com lol
[19:26] <Pici> minot: #ubuntu-doc should be able to help... but its a small channel, so be patient.
[19:26] <k1l> minot: they got restricted due to spam abuse.maybe #ubuntu-website is the place
[19:26] <ioria> dars,  Generating /boot/initrd.img-4.4.0-22-generic    .. reboot and check again uname -r
[19:27] <phillyj> on every startup, I now see messages like "/dev/sda1 clean...". I think the HDD is being scanned, but I dont know why. I don't need that on every startup
[19:27] <dars> ioria: what after?
[19:27] <TikityTik> I'm having issues of firefox freezing when loading a page. It happens even after restarting and restarting with no addons enabled.
[19:27] <ioria> dars,  you have the latest kernel ,,,
[19:28] <dars> ioria: so what ?
[19:28] <ioria> dars,  so the latest should have fixed your issues ... (we hope)
[19:29] <dars> ioria : ok i will do it
[19:29] <dars> ioria : Thanks for your help
[19:29] <dars> ioria:  :)
[19:29] <ioria> dars,  no problem .... you still have the vivid kernel in there
[19:29] <belea> ioria any idea about this partitioning http://pastebin.com/5duPiwzX for the 3x120gb disks? on server 16? by any chance
[19:30] <ioria> dars, linux-image-3.19.0-58-generic
[19:30] <mattfly> hi
[19:30] <dars> ioria : no
[19:30] <mattfly> hello everybody
[19:30] <ioria> belea no sorry
[19:30] <mattfly> is there any draftsight user here?
[19:31] <ioria> dars,   after reboot paste ls /boot
[19:31] <mattfly> someone who could install it on 16.04?
[19:31] <mattfly> i'm getting a failed to l0ad modules error
[19:32] <dars> ioria: i am not rebooting at this moment because i am doing work may be after some time 10-15 min
[19:32] <mattfly> i've tried the older versions
[19:32] <mattfly> 32 bits versions
[19:32] <mattfly> nothing works
[19:32] <ioria> dars,   ok,  you can paste   ls /boot ?
[19:32] <dars> ioria: OK i will
[19:33] <mattfly> can someone at least tell me a better room ro talk about draftsight and cad software on ubuntu/kinux
[19:33] <mattfly> ?
[19:33] <dars__> d
[19:33] <MonkeyDust> !find draftsight
[19:34] <belea> !partitioning
[19:35] <mattfly> theres noone in #draftsight
[19:35] <Pici> !alis
[19:35] <skay> my superkey search results have vanished for apps. where should I start with troubleshooting this?
[19:36] <akik> mattfly: there's librecad for 2d and freecad for 3d
[19:36] <Pici> mattfly: it seems to be a commercial tool.. I wouldn't expect a channel on freenode for it.
[19:36] <mattfly> yeah, but their commands are different, iguess
[19:37] <mattfly> why cant i just install draftsight?
[19:37] <phillyj> my HDD keeps getting scanned (for errors??) during boot. Why is it doing that and how to fix it?
[19:37] <mattfly> i saw so many ppl with the same issue since ubuntu 14.04
[19:37] <k1l> mattfly: do they ship a linux or even ubuntu version with that commercial program?
[19:38] <Pici> mattfly: their documentation says they only support 14.04.
[19:38] <mattfly> oh god
[19:38] <mattfly> so i cant run it on 16.04?
[19:39] <Pici> mattfly: You'd need to ask them if they support 16.04 or if they plan to support it.
[19:39] <roothorick> Firefox is straight-up crashing when trying to load many Google services. Just enter the URL and boom, bugreport dialog
[19:42] <MonkeyDust> roothorick  maybe google wants to force you to use chrome
[19:42] <roothorick> it's addon related :/
[19:44] <dars> ,
[19:45] <roothorick> ...it's NoScript
[19:45] <roothorick> I'd rather go without a browser :(
[19:46] <DArqueBishop> mattfly: honestly, your best bet is to contact Dassault Systemes and see if they even support Ubuntu 16.04 on DraftSight.
[19:51] <jgcampbell300> does anyone know if there is a way to setup ubunut with usable voice commands
[19:56] <t1mp> Cool. So far Xenial seems to work quite well on the dell xps13 :)
[19:58] <MonkeyDust> jgcampbell300  start here https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Accessibility#Voice_Recognition
[19:59] <roothorick> resetting NoScript's settings seems to have fixed it. Some kind of legacy cruft from old versions or something
[19:59] <helpubuntu> i setup Ubuntu 16.04 on my computer. Did apt-get update. I want to install a virtual machine, so i started to follow the instructions on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Xen. i did sudo apt-get install xen-hypervisor-amd64 and rebooted the machine. Now it won't start and it's stuck on the ubuntu screen, when i press the down arrow i notice it says "Reading all phsysical volumes. This may take a while... WARNING: Failed to connect
[19:59] <bekks> helpubuntu: Are you really sure you want a XEN vm?
[20:00] <helpubuntu> l scanning... and /run/1vm.1vmetad.socket: connect failed: no such file or directory
[20:00] <helpubuntu> i'm not sure bekks. the issue here is it's a fresh ubuntu install and this https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Xen#Installing_Xen guide just bricked it
[20:00] <helpubuntu> on the first step
[20:00] <helpubuntu> fyi i have encrypted hard drive on the setup options
[20:01] <t1mp> helpubuntu: I don't know anything about xen. But if you want to run only linux virtual machines, you could try lxd. It is awesome :)
[20:01] <helpubuntu> Thanks t1mp, i want it to be secure
[20:01] <helpubuntu> will take a look. So should i just reinstall ubuntu
[20:02] <helpubuntu> And i think https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Xen#Installing_Xen needs a massive warning on 16.04 systems
[20:02] <roothorick> I've noticed that running unencrypted swap confuses the grub scripts
[20:02] <roothorick> it seems to work anyway, just generates a warning. I'm using builtin hardware encryption on my SSD with ATA Security managed by the UEFI firmware, so it's just redundant
[20:03] <t1mp> helpubuntu: here is an introduction to lxd https://insights.ubuntu.com/2015/04/28/getting-started-with-lxd-the-container-lightervisor there is more info on linuxcontainers.org
[20:03] <helpubuntu> thanks##
[20:04] <t1mp> it is quite new, but if you are running Ubuntu 16.04, it can easily be installed from the archive
[20:04] <mattfly> haha
[20:04] <mattfly> i did it
[20:04] <mattfly> remember, it is possible to run draftsight on 16.04
[20:05] <roothorick> worth noting: 16.04 isn't really considered LTS caliber just yet
[20:05] <mattfly> just install libgstreamer
[20:05] <roothorick> they outright say 14.04 users should wait until 16.04.1
[20:05] <mattfly> oh really? its not lts yet?
[20:05] <mattfly> whem will it be released?
[20:05] <roothorick> it... is and isn't
[20:06] <roothorick> it's an LTS release, but not yet up to the LTS standard
[20:07] <roothorick> if it's a new install I'd probably opt for 16.04 anyway, saving headaches later is worth the risks (the upgrade process comes with its own set of potential complications; there was an issue where the GNOME variant would fail to upgrade correctly and clobber system services when you try)
[20:07] <mattfly> when?
[20:08] <roothorick> apparently the rule of thumb is the first "point release" should be up to LTS standards
[20:08] <roothorick> which is expected in July
[20:10] <roothorick> that'll be a pretty fun day for me. I have a pretty mission critical machine on 14.04. If it hits a major problem it cripples the entire house
[20:11] <Anti-Socialness> where can i download the canon scanner drivers for ubuntu 16.04?
[20:11] <ikonia> Anti-Socialness: you'll find cannon has hit and miss support on linux in general
[20:12] <ikonia> Anti-Socialness: look at the cups support for your device, and look at the hardware compatibility for linux on the cannon website of your device
[20:12] <Anti-Socialness> thanks
[20:12] <roothorick> business units tend to have pretty good support, if nothing else because they usually have a built-in postscript interpreter and some kind of standards-compliant internal server
[20:12] <roothorick> consumer grade gear... Good. Luck.
[20:13] <ozberk> why there is no opn pdf editors  that can run a scan from the scanner and save it as pdf format like adobe pdf
[20:13] <ozberk> open*
[20:14] <roothorick> for one thing, the generated "PDFs" are just bitmap images in a wrapper
[20:14] <roothorick> might as well just send PNGs
[20:15] <roothorick> if it really absolutely needs to be a PDF you could import the images into e.g. Libreoffice and export a PDF from there
[20:18] <MonkeyDust> ozberk  try modpdf, or pdfmod
[20:19] <MonkeyDust> !info pdfmod | ozberk
[20:21] <Welastevil> hi guys!
[20:21] <Welastevil> just got my new alienware! it rules)))
[20:22] <Welastevil> but somehow it is overheating ...even if Im not gaming
[20:22] <dars> dars
[20:22] <Welastevil> someone else here using an alienware?
[20:28] <kwesidev1> distupgrade from ubuntu 14.04 to 16.04 ? will it break my system??
[20:28] <ikonia> you don't distupgrade
[20:28] <k1l> !ltsupgrade | kwesidev1
[20:29] <bst11> hi Im using ubuntu 16.04 and whenever i try to install an os in virtual box it wakes with this error   "(modprobe vboxdrv failed. Please use 'dmesg' to find out why"
[20:30] <bst11> kindly help
[20:30] <ikonia> bst11: it can't load the virtual box kernel module
[20:30] <ikonia> bst11: this is normally because you've installed virtual box from an external site, rather than the virtual box package provided by ubuntu
[20:31] <bst11> well i did from the repo and received the same message after the update
[20:31] <ikonia> fro what repo
[20:31] <ikonia> from
[20:31] <bst11> the ubuntu repo
[20:32] <ikonia> bst11: try to load the module manually and you'll get a more descriptive error
[20:32] <bst11> ikonia how do i load it manually
[20:32] <ikonia> modprobe
[20:34] <bst11> ikonia missing paremeters
[20:35] <ikonia> bst11: what was the exact command you used
[20:35] <bst11> just modprobe
[20:35] <ikonia> you need to use the module name too
[20:35] <ikonia> the error message shows you the command it's running
[20:35] <bst11> okay
[20:37] <bst11> i used sudo modprobe vboxdrv': Required key not available
[20:37] <ikonia> bst11: that really doesn't sound like it's come from the ubuntu repo
[20:38] <bst11> okay then let me just purge it and try again??
[20:38] <ipatrol> I can't find the MD5 hashes for the Lubuntu-mini ISO anywhere
[20:39] <Pici> ipatrol: do you have the iso's url?
[20:39] <Ben64> afaik, there is no lubuntu mini, it's just "mini"
[20:40] <ipatrol> Pici: that I do, but they don't go to a release directory or anything
[20:40] <ikonia> that would defeat the object of "mini"
[20:40] <Pici> ipatrol: can you share this url?
[20:40] <ipatrol> or wait
[20:40] <bst11> ikonia
[20:41] <ipatrol> found them! http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/xenial/main/installer-amd64/current/images/MD5SUMS
[20:41] <bst11> should i wait?
[20:41] <bst11> *ikonia
[20:41] <ikonia> bst11: wait for what ?
[20:41] <Pici> ipatrol: those should be on the !minimal wiki page too
[20:41] <Pici> !minimal
[20:41] <bst11> i mean should i purge and reinstall the package?
[20:41] <ikonia> bst11: if you like,
[20:42] <ikonia> bst11: worth double checking what repos you have too
[20:42] <bst11> ikonia thanks
[20:42] <ipatrol> Pici: no, the links on that page go directly to the ISO. I had to copy the link, then trim off the last couple directories to find the MD5 list
[20:42] <ipatrol> and no, it's not on the wiki page itself
[20:42] <Ben64> it is
[20:42] <ipatrol> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Lubuntu/Documentation/MinimalInstall
[20:42] <Pici> ipatrol: the links on that page also have all the md5 and sha1 sums
[20:42] <Pici> ipatrol: hrm, thats silly.
[20:43] <ipatrol> Pici: the link given is http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/xenial/main/installer-amd64/current/images/netboot/mini.iso
[20:43] <ipatrol> which, again, I had to manually trim to go up to the images directory
[20:43] <Ben64> hashes are all on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/MinimalCD
[20:44] <ipatrol> Ben64: that's for Ubuntu, not Lubuntu
[20:44] <Ben64> theres no difference
[20:45] <ikonia> ipatrol: the whole point of it is - it minimal, it contains no desktop
[20:45] <ikonia> ipatrol: so there can't be a minimal for each distro
[20:45] <ipatrol> ikonia: OHHHH
[20:45] <ipatrol> then it should be linked on Lubuntu's page, because it's not
[20:45] <ikonia> why ?
[20:46] <ikonia> a basic understanding of what the mini is before using it seems more than a basic requirement
[20:46] <Pici> Ideally Lubuntu's page should link directly to the Minimal page instead of duplicating information.
[20:47] <ipatrol> Pici: precisely my thought
[20:47] <ipatrol> and then say "Once you have done that, continue with the instructions below"
[20:48] <ipatrol> then yada yada ...
[20:48] <thirax> Hi
[20:49] <ipatrol> ikonia: the structure of Lubuntu's page didn't make it immediately obvious that the minimal installer is shared
[20:50] <ikonia> ipatrol: think about it - what does the minimal iso contain....
[20:50] <Ben64> nothing (pretty much)
[20:50] <ipatrol> ikonia: an installer for a basic command-line environment
[20:50] <Pici> I updated some of the page... but it still needs a big cleanup.. lots of this info is confusing.
[20:50] <ikonia> ipatrol: right, so why would there need to be different versions ?
[20:50] <reisio> I dare say most people don't even realize the only difference between the various Ubuntu flavors is which packages (which are available for any Ubuntu) are installed beforehand
[20:50] <ipatrol> I thought maybe it had a different set of components
[20:51] <ipatrol> reisio: some flavors also have tweaks to their kernels
[20:51] <Hulio> hi guys, anyone know how to insall LSB via terminal?
[20:51] <ikonia> ipatrol: no they don't
[20:51] <ikonia> Hulio: installl lsb ?
[20:51] <Hulio> i try to install epson printer, it need lsb
[20:51] <Pici> ipatrol: in the past they did, not so much anymore.
[20:52] <reisio> ipatrol: I hear they have different colored wallpapers, too
[20:52] <ipatrol> !studio | Pici
[20:52] <ikonia> Hulio: lsb is normally a meta package
[20:52] <Pici> Hulio: Ubuntu is no longer LSB compliant, what are you trying to accomplish?
[20:52] <k-abraham> try to update
[20:52] <nis> bluetooth not detecting  device...anyone know a fix?
[20:52] <ikonia> Hulio: what package are you trying to actually install ?
[20:52] <Hulio> i am trying to install epson printer driver
[20:52] <ikonia> Hulio: from where ?
[20:52] <Pici> ipatrol: I meant more regarding server/non-server.  studio is a special case :)
[20:52] <Hulio> http://download.ebz.epson.net/dsc/du/02/DriverDownloadInfo.do?LG2=EN&CN2=&DSCMI=45427&DSCCHK=dbd222ef019e11433beed9d553bd567029c06dd8
[20:52] <ipatrol> Studio uses a different kernel
[20:53] <dars> In Ubuntu 16.04 menu options not shown
[20:53] <Hulio> ikonia, not sure how to install epson printer driver
[20:53] <Hulio> i have ubuntu 16.04 LTS
[20:53] <Hulio> i have XP-850
[20:53] <ipatrol> Pici: but given that Studio happens to be the flavor I'm using, that affects my viewpoint. I was unaware it was a special case.
[20:53] <ikonia> Hulio: this is the problem, providers such as epson are packaging "genric"
[20:54] <thirax>  HexChat: 2.10.2 ** OS: Linux 4.4.0-22-generic x86_64 ** Distro: Ubuntu "xenial" 16.04 ** CPU: 4 x Intel(R) Core(TM) i3-4030U CPU @ 1.90GHz (GenuineIntel) @ 1,90GHz ** RAM: Physical: 7,7GiB, 61,8% free ** Disk: Total: 967,0GiB, 17,7% free ** VGA: Intel Corporation Haswell-ULT Integrated Graphics Controller ** Sound: HDA-Intel - HDA Intel HDMI1: HDA-Intel - HDA Intel PCH ** Ethernet: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. CIe Gigabit
[20:54] <thirax> Ethernet ** Uptime: 2h 57m 20s **
[20:54] <Pici> ipatrol: know you know :)
[20:54] <Pici> thirax: please don;t.
[20:54] <ipatrol> !pastebin | thirax
[20:54] <dars> In Ubuntu 16.04 menu options not shown which used to appear on header of any s/w like file>edit  etc
[20:54] <dars> Help
[20:54] <dars> Anyone
[20:54] <nis> bluetooth help please
[20:54] <ipatrol> dars: that's a desktop environment thing
[20:55] <ipatrol> if you don't like the arrangement, you should probably pick a different one
[20:55] <thirax> ccsm ?
[20:55] <dars> ipatrol : from where do I change
[20:55] <Pici> Hulio: it may help us if you can share the error or issue you're seeing.  I need to go afk myself though.
[20:56] <ikonia> it's a generic deb package, that depends on the lsb package, it's not going to work
[20:56] <ipatrol> dars: generally you start by installing the desktop package for the new DE, then switch to it from the session manager, then remove the old DE
[20:56] <dars> Ohh
[20:56] <ipatrol> note this will probably break more than a few packages at first
[20:57] <ipatrol> !desktop | dars
[20:58] <ipatrol> the names in parenthesis are the packages for the respective DEs
[20:58] <dars> But sometimes the menus appear automatically
[20:58] <dars> And sometime not
[20:58] <ipatrol> dars: depends on which toolkit the GUI is using
[20:59] <auronandace> dars: mouse over the top bar
[20:59] <ipatrol> dars: oh, is your issue with the windows to specific GUIs, or the desktop itself?
[21:02] <ipatrol> new editions often change aspects of the UI. Personally, I think that distros should think of UIs the same way they think of system components, that is to say don't make sudden, drastic changes to them
[21:02] <trents> thanks
[21:02] <reisio> ipatrol: mmm, but distros don't usually control that
[21:02] <trents> IRC is magic... hahaha
[21:03] <reisio> DE maintainers certainly should think that way, though
[21:03] <ipatrol> reisio: downstream is not obligated to push everything the DE devs cook up
[21:04] <ipatrol> and given the way a certain set of DE devs behave, I'd say trying to get them to think differently about UI changes is like pleading with water to stop being wet
[21:06] <ipatrol> so it's left to the distro maintainers not to break interoperability with those squishy little computing devices sitting in front of the screen :-)
[21:06] <reisio> ipatrol: they're even more not obliged to maintain things they haven't before, however
[21:07] <reisio> that's untenable
[21:07] <reisio> Canonical, for example, doesn't have the developer to maintain GNOME 2, for example
[21:07] <reisio> the developerS
[21:07] <reisio> or KDE
[21:07] <ipatrol> reisio: let's take this to -devel
[21:07] <ikonia> lets not
[21:07] <reisio> or anything else of much weight
[21:07] <ikonia> that's not what -devel is for
[21:07] <ikonia> maybe #ubuntu-discuss
[21:07] <ikonia> of #ubuntu-offtopic
[21:08] <ipatrol> ikonia: discuss sounds good
[21:12] <mohammed> hi
[21:13] <ipatrol> Guest10263: yes?
[21:14] <nis> can someone help fix some bluetooth issues?
[21:14] <ipatrol> nis: depends, what is it?
[21:14] <Hulio> this is what i get:
[21:14] <Hulio> This package is uninstallable
[21:14] <Hulio> Dependency is not satisfiable: lsb (>= 3.2)
[21:14] <ipatrol> Hulio: still on that?
[21:15] <Hulio> yeah
[21:15] <nis> ipatrol: i can connect my headphones to it
[21:15] <ikonia> its not going to work
[21:15] <Hulio> why is it so complicated to install epson printer in linux?
[21:15] <ikonia> Hulio: because epson don't maintain their packages
[21:15] <Hulio> i download their .deb file
[21:15] <ikonia> yes
[21:15] <ikonia> Hulio: what distro is that .deb for
[21:15] <ipatrol> Hulio: because proprietary drivers are a ${female_dog} to work with
[21:15] <Hulio> ubuntu
[21:15] <ikonia> Hulio: how do you know
[21:15] <Hulio> i dont know
[21:15] <ikonia> Hulio: where does it say that package is for ubuntu
[21:16] <nis> ipatrol: i cant  connect headphones to it , plus i dont know if it is working properly
[21:16] <Hulio> well let me check
[21:16] <ikonia> Hulio: right - because it's not for ubuntu, it's for generic debian based distro
[21:16] <Hulio> ok just tell me how to install
[21:16] <Hulio> i dont know much
[21:16] <ikonia> Hulio: it's not going to install
[21:16] <Hulio> so how will i get my printer to work then
[21:16] <Hulio> so freaking complicated
[21:16] <ipatrol> Hulio: find a different printer
[21:16] <ikonia> Hulio: contact Epson would be the first startpoing point
[21:17] <ikonia> Hulio: you can install with ignore dependencies options, but I'm not going to advise that
[21:17] <ipatrol> ikonia: yeah, not gonna help. Epson is dense as lead bricks
[21:17] <ikonia> that is the right process though, contact epson to support their packages
[21:17] <Hulio> i google ..can't seem to find any instruction to mke it work
[21:17] <Hulio> so darn sad
[21:17] <ikonia> Hulio: I've just explained why/how
[21:18] <ipatrol> ikonia: and I'm going to advise him not to waste his time
[21:19] <Hulio> is this ligit?  idont even see ubuntu software center
[21:19] <Hulio> http://tutorialforlinux.com/2016/01/15/how-to-install-epson-inkjet-printers-driver-quick-start-scanning-on-ubuntu-16-04-xenial-lts-linux-easy-guide/
[21:19] <ipatrol> Hulio: take a look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Printers and find one that's actually supported
[21:19] <ikonia> Hulio: I don't trust that site
[21:19] <Hulio> oh ok
[21:20] <nis> anyone know how to connect some bluetooth headphones?
[21:22] <ipatrol> nis: what kind?
[21:22] <Ben64> nis: you're likely to get better answers if you explain what you're doing, and what problems you're encountering. "Anyone.....?" questions pretty much are useless
[21:22] <Hulio> ipatrol, i got it to work fully good:   sudo apt-get install printer-driver-escpr
[21:22] <Hulio> :)
[21:23] <Hulio> ikonia, i can you don't know : sudo apt-get install printer-driver-escpr
[21:23] <mohammed__> salut tt le monde
[21:23] <nis> ipatrol: its sony headphones, i cant find my device on bluetooth manager
[21:23] <Hulio> ikonia, ipatrol http://askubuntu.com/questions/763157/ubuntu-16-04-installing-epson-driver-fails-on-lsb-3-2
[21:23] <Hulio> ipatrol, ikonia , you're welcome
[21:23] <ipatrol> Hulio: no need to get condescending
[21:24] <Hulio> haha
[21:24] <Hulio> thanks anyway
[21:24] <ipatrol> Hulio: what model?
[21:24] <Hulio> XP-850
[21:24] <nis> Ben64: i cant find by device in the list when i open bluetooth manager
[21:25] <Ben64> nis: you might need to put the device into the proper mode, check the manual
[21:25] <ipatrol> wait, I meant nis. nis: what model of headphones?
[21:25] <nis> ipatrol: sony xb950bt
[21:26] <nis> Ben64: i do have it in the pairing mode...but it doesnt show up on the list , am not sure if my bluetooth firmware is loaded
[21:28] <nis> ipatrol: is there a way to check my bluetooth adapter is working right and the correct firmware is installed?
[21:28] <Ben64> try pairing a different device?
[21:29] <bst11> hi I
[21:29] <nis> Ben64: i tried my phone but thats not showing up either
[21:30] <ipatrol> nis: and those devices have bluetooth enabled and in pairing mode on their ends?
[21:30] <bst11> I'm using ubuntu 16.04 i just reinstalled virtualbox from the repo and Im getting the error:   Kernel driver not installed (rc=-1908)
[21:30] <bst11> The VirtualBox Linux kernel driver (vboxdrv) is either not loaded or there is a permission problem with /dev/vboxdrv. Please install virtualbox-dkms package and load the kernel module by executing
[21:30] <bst11> 'modprobe vboxdrv'
[21:30] <bst11> as root. If it is available in your distribution, you should install the DKMS package first. This package keeps track of Linux kernel changes and recompiles the vboxdrv kernel module if necessary.
[21:30] <bst11> where: suplibOsInit what: 3 VERR_VM_DRIVER_NOT_INSTALLED (-1908) - The support driver is not installed. On linux, open returned ENOENT.
[21:30] <ipatrol> !pastebin | bst11
[21:31] <nis> ipatrol: yes they are in pairing mode
[21:31] <hamza> hi
[21:31] <tooryasnm> anyone know good system resource widget for plasma 5?
[21:31] <hamza> i m new to raspberry pi
[21:31] <ipatrol> nis: and the bluetooth chip is enabled on your machine?
[21:32] <nis> ipatrol: how do i check?
[21:32] <ipatrol> nis: set your computer as discoverable and see if your phone picks it up
[21:33] <squinty> nis,  dmesg | grep -i bluetooth   look for errors displayed.   just out of curiosity I ran that here and just found out that it displayed a firmware error for my broadcom bluetooth adapter  lol
[21:33] <nis> ipatrol: how do i do that?
[21:33] <ipatrol> squinty: that can also help, but unless you know what to look for, you might get a lot of chaff in that
[21:34] <ipatrol> plus since bluetooth is often abbreviated as bt, you probably need a slightly broader regex
[21:34] <nis> squinty: http://pastebin.com/zS9stUTw
[21:34] <nis> ipatrol: http://pastebin.com/zS9stUTw
[21:34] <bst11> okay Ipatrol this is the link
[21:34] <squinty> ipatrol, as i clearly stated "look for error"
[21:34] <bst11> http://paste.ubuntu.com/16352946/
[21:35] <squinty> nis,  yes you have broadcom too
[21:36] <nis> squinty: there is an error..is that the reason am not seeing my device?
[21:36] <ipatrol> squinty: does broadcom have a bad history with linux?
[21:37] <squinty> nis:  could very well be. a quick google of my error message shows there is a bug report for that.  checking it out
[21:38] <nis> squinty: google doesnt show much results with that error
[21:40] <squinty> nis: might want to read this  http://askubuntu.com/questions/748387/ubuntu-15-10-usb-bluetooth-not-working   as a starting point
[21:53] <squinty> nis,  ran across this one too but it applies to my broadcom model here.  you may want to google for your model number and the firmware name
[21:53] <squinty> nis:  http://plugable.com/2014/06/23/plugable-usb-bluetooth-adapter-solving-hfphsp-profile-issues-on-linux
[21:54] <bst11> pls help i just reinstalled virtualbox on my ubuntu 16.04 and i get this error    http://paste.ubuntu.com/16352946/
[21:54] <ikonia> bst11: have you checked what the error message is telling you to
[21:56] <nis> squinty: well my headphone doesnt have a plugable adapter
[21:56] <bst11> ikonia it says modprobe: FATAL: Module vboxdrv not found in directory /lib/modules/4.4.0-22-generic
[21:57] <ikonia> bst11: have you installed the packages it told you to install if possible ?
[21:57] <bst11> which package pls
[21:58] <ikonia> the one it says in the error message you posted
[21:59] <bst11> I installed virtualbox and it run into this error when i try to run it
[21:59] <ikonia> no, the package it explicitly calls out in the error message you posted
[22:00] <bst11> yes i installed them all
[22:00] <ikonia> which package am I asking you about ?
[22:00] <OerHeks> bst11, virtualbox-dkms too?
[22:00] <bst11> virtualbox-dkms??
[22:00] <reisio> ???
[22:00] <OerHeks> that is what the error suggests
[22:00] <ikonia> the one it's saying in error message
[22:00] <bst11> yeah i did
[22:01] <ikonia> bst11: please pastebin the output of "dpkg -l | grep virtualbox"
[22:01] <ikonia> !info virtualbox-dmks
[22:01] <ikonia> !info virtualbox-dkms
[22:02] <nis> anyone know a fix to this error  "firmware load for brcm/BCM.hcd failed with error -2"
[22:03] <bst11> ikonia http://paste.ubuntu.com/16353108/
[22:05] <ikonia> bst11: ok - ao there should be a script that the dkms package should execute to build the module
[22:05] <bst11> yes there is and it is missing
[22:05] <ikonia> what is there ?
[22:05] <ikonia> where are you looking for the script ?
[22:06] <bst11> it is /dev/vboxdrv
[22:06] <ikonia> no it's not
[22:06] <ikonia> that is a device file
[22:06] <squinty> nis,  well even after following the instructions on that last web page I sent you, dmesg still shows it barfing when trying to load the firmware.  will work on this a little later when I also have bluetooth headphones and keyboard to work with.
[22:06] <nis> anyone know firmware load for brcm/BCM.hcd failed with error -2
[22:07] <nis> squinty: thanx for your help
[22:07] <bst11> that is the only scrip that comes from the error
[22:07] <nis> squinty: can you resend that last link, coz i restarted
[22:08] <squinty> nis: http://plugable.com/2014/06/23/plugable-usb-bluetooth-adapter-solving-hfphsp-profile-issues-on-linux     might want to have a poke around the site for your model number  ya never know you might get lucky :-)
[22:08] <bst11> ikonia VERR_VM_DRIVER_NOT_INSTALLED (-1908)
[22:09] <nis> squinty: this id for headphones with plugable adapter. i dont have a plugable adapter
[22:11] <squinty> nis,  have you checked Additional Drivers for any offers.  nothing shows up here for mine but my unit is external usb dongle
[22:12] <nis> squinty: no i havent found any additional drivers either
[22:13] <OerHeks> ikonia, do you mean this setup ? sudo /usr/lib/virtualbox/vboxdrv.sh setup >>> http://askubuntu.com/questions/724127/virtualbox-error-after-installing-new-linux-kernel-4-4
[22:13] <nis> squinty: this looks intriguing http://askubuntu.com/questions/764273/bluetooth-headphones-on-ubuntu-16-04
[22:14] <UnnamedUser> Hey, has anyone played with Ubuntu on the WIndows Surface Pro?
[22:15] <ZoderUck> hi
[22:15] <squinty> nis,  did you try installing or reinstalling bluez as per that first web link I sent?  Just wondering if that work for your onboard.....
[22:16] <nis> squinty: i reinstalled and now i can use the applet to search but still device doesnt show up
[22:16] <RippyD1ppy> Anyone try Ubuntu on a surface?
[22:17] <OerHeks> RippyD1ppy, there are 4 surface pro's ..
[22:17] <squinty> RippyD1ppy,  #ubuntu-touch  maybe more applicable
[22:18] <nis> squinty: even my phone doesnt get detected
[22:19] <squinty> nis,  and you clicked on the bluetooth icon so that both bluetooth is On and Visable?
[22:19] <reisio> RippyD1ppy: probably someone
[22:20] <nis> squinty: i go to setting and click ON for bluetooth
[22:20] <nis> squinty: how do i know if it visible:
[22:20] <squinty> nis,  should be a visable toggle in the uper right hand corner
[22:21] <nis> squinty: i think my laptop is not visible, but i cant find the toggle can send a screenshot
[22:21] <Bashing-om> !ubuwin | RippyD1ppy
[22:21] <ZoderUck> how do enable the intellisense in visual code for  an external require module ?
[22:22] <ikonia> OerHeks: looks likely
[22:22] <nis> squinty: my phone is not detecting laptop either
[22:24] <squinty> nis, fwiw, i have gnome-bluetooth installed here (default) so maybe bluez has slightly different interfaces.  might want to try that to see if it makes a difference
[22:25] <ZoderUck> uh what
[22:30] <psfal> Hey all
[22:31] <squinty> nis, https://ibin.co/2gibH7ENhym8.png
[22:32] <nis> squinty: how did u launch gnome bluetooth , i just installed it
[22:32] <squinty> nis, might have to log out and back in again or if that fails reboot
[22:33] <psfal> Can anyone help with some pointers on flagging a script back to a config file?
[22:33] <bekks> psfal: ?
[22:33] <peterrooney> psfal: what do you mean?
[22:34] <psfal> I wrote some desktop config settings into an adduser.local file, which is supposed to run when a user is added. But I have to manually run it from terminal in the user's account
[22:36] <psfal> You'll pardon me, I haven't used IRC since the '90s and have long since forgotten what commands to use
[22:40] <nis> squinty: do u have the error which says brcm/BCM.hcd not found
[22:40] <dead> can you explain what libjpeg-turbo8 is??
[22:40] <reisio> dead: library providing JPEG support
[22:40] <dead> yes i know, but the latest version of libjpeg-turbo is 1.4.2
[22:40] <dead> what is the 8??
[22:40] <psfal> Am I still here?
[22:41] <dead> I have a binary from ubuntu package that is looking for libjpeg.so.8 which is libjpeg-turbo8
[22:41] <dead> which literally seems to be libjpeg-turbo with the version number changed to 8 for some reason?
[22:41] <dead> why?
[22:41] <squinty> nis,  no mine is different  hci0: Direct firmware load for brcm/BCM20702A1-0a5c-21e8.hcd failed with error -2  [    7.264915] Bluetooth: hci0: BCM: Patch brcm/BCM20702A1-0a5c-21e8.hcd not found
[22:41] <Bashing-om> dead: ' apt show libjpeg-turbo8 ' gives some good hints .
[22:42] <GnomeKris> I can't get over half my games to work on steam here. I had it where EVERY game I owned worked before, but don't remember what I did to make them work. I know I was using the proprietary, updated drivers from amd, but no matter what I try now, the games just won't load
[22:42] <squinty> nis,  no luck with gnome-bluetooth?
[22:43] <dead> Bashing-om: i don't have ubuntu, thats why I'm asking what this package is
[22:43] <nis> squinty: yeah thats also there for me....but in the begining  of the output do u see this msg? brcm/BCM.hcd not found  thats the file it needs to
[22:43] <GnomeKris> I'm on 14.04 btw. Had them running on 14.04 before, but had to fresh install, and can't seem to get it working this time.
[22:43] <dead> it doesn't seem to exist on debian either.. :/
[22:44] <ZoderUck> hi
[22:44] <reisio> ohai
[22:44] <ZoderUck> who uses visual studio code editor for node.js ?
[22:44] <reisio> ZoderUck: people who hate themselves
[22:44] <ZoderUck> ow
[22:44] <squinty> nis, no just what I posted
[22:44] <ZoderUck> reisio, and people that hate you
[22:45] <reisio> doesn't have much to do with me
[22:45] <dead> i linked my libjpeg-turbo 1.4.2 to libjpeg-turbo.so.8 and now the program says 'LIBJPEG_TURBO8 not set"
[22:45] <dead> so you've hacked libjpeg-turbo.so.8 just to includ esome magic version 8 in there
[22:46] <dead> why
[22:46] <psfal> ping
[22:47] <reisio> dead: you said your .so is .so.8?
[22:47] <reisio> dead: do you need more explanation?
[22:48] <Bashing-om> dead: " This package contains the shared library which is a drop in replacement for libjpeg8, which has better performance than standard libjpeg by use of SIMD and other optimizations.
[22:48] <nis> squinty: http://pastebin.com/drhZbSCQ you can see that bcm.hcd not found
[22:48] <dead> there is no libjpeg8 dude
[22:48] <dead> what is libjpeg8
[22:49] <dead> the current version of libjpeg-turbo is 1.4.2
[22:49] <dead> where does the 8 come from?
[22:49] <reisio> dead: https://www.debian.org/doc/debian-policy/ch-controlfields.html#s-f-Version
[22:49] <reisio> it's for the convenience of the package manager/package maintainers
[22:49] <phillyj> i think my ubuntu is running fsck on every boot. Why is this and how to fix? Please help
[22:50] <k1l> dead: what ubuntu do you use?
[22:50] <k1l> dead: and what package is making that error?
[22:50] <psfal> I wrote some desktop config settings into an adduser.local file, which is supposed to run when a user is added. But I have to manually run it from terminal in the user's account, how do I get it to run automatically?
[22:50] <squinty> nis,  yes   it's saying pretty much the same thing as my error message... that is a firmware file is missing and so can not be loaded.
[22:51] <dead> reisio: yeah, that sucks, ok thank you.
[22:51] <nis> squinty: any way to manually install it like what is said in this link http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2274335
[22:52] <squinty> nis:  i searched for your file name at http://packages.ubuntu.com/  (and mine for that matter) but nothing turned up
[22:54] <squinty> nis:  http://askubuntu.com/questions/688987/bluetooth-problem   same error message as yours
[22:57] <iBurley> Hey guys, quick question. On the command line, is it possible to pipe the result of a command to specific spot in a text file? I need to make a bash file that runs on boot to find the public IP and put it into a text file on like, say 28, after 'IP Address= '. Is that possible?
[22:57] <nis> squinty: do u know how to launch gnome bluetooth from terminal?
[22:59] <iBurley> nis, you could run 'gnome-control-center' from terminal and click on Bluetooth, if that's possible.
[23:00] <nis> squinty: how do i launch gnome control center?
[23:00] <nis> iBurley thanx
[23:01] <Guy1524> so I have a laptop and I would like to launch a gnome-shell and have it launch steam so I can do steam in home streaming
[23:01] <Guy1524> I cant connect a monitor and input to it
[23:01] <Guy1524> any ideas?
[23:01] <Guy1524> the most preferable way would be to have all video out be streamed to my computer so I can log in and launch steam
[23:08] <dibs> I'm restoring my gourps at the moment after an accident. Could anyone who has a LAMP stack on ubuntu send me their groups list please?
[23:10] <drong0> is anyone plagued with the caps lock lag? i've been googling and it seems to be around and i still encounter it in 16.10
[23:10] <drong0> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xserver-xorg-input-keyboard/+bug/1376903
[23:13] <squinty> nis,  try  nm-applet
[23:13] <nis> squinty: is it preinstalled?
[23:13] <squinty> nis,  that is what starts gnome-bluetooth
[23:16] <nis> squinty: i see a network in gnome control center, is that it?
[23:18] <dna113p> Hello. I am having an issue where setting keybindings in ccsm doesn't work. The bindings show they are set in ccsm but dont' work at all outside of it. What might cause this?
[23:18] <squinty> nis, not to be honest.  where are you seeing gnome control center.   if you just type in a terminal   nm-applet   that should produce a working bluetooth icon on the top panel
[23:26] <nis> squinty: i made some changes and now i get a different msgs for dmesg     http://pastebin.com/spz8uZN3
[23:27] <nis> squinty: this might help you, but it didnt help me, notice that you have to change step 2 for ubuntu versions after 15.04   http://askubuntu.com/questions/617513/bluetooth-not-connecting-to-devices-even-though-it-recognizes-them
[23:29] <iBurley> So you can use the 'sed' command to send a specific line or range of one file to another file, but can the export send to a specific line as well? Could I say like "send the contents of this text file to line 23 of this text file"?
[23:33] <nis> squinty: i typed nm-applet it didn't do anything, prolly coz am running gnome environment than unity
[23:34] <squinty> nis,  thanks.  that was a similar method I tried at first but still got the firmware error.   You might want to check out the following:  http://askubuntu.com/questions/632336/bluetooth-broadcom-43142-isnt-working-on-ubuntu
[23:35] <squinty> nis, ahhhh  ok  thanks for the heads up
[23:35] <hoopoo685> Does anyone know how to switch from developmental version of Ubuntu 16.04 to the stable version?
[23:36] <squinty> nis, btw, which broadcom model do you have?
[23:36] <nis> squinty: how to finnd out?
[23:36] <squinty> hoopoo685, if you have been doing full-upgrades you should be current
[23:37] <k1l> !final | hoopoo685
[23:37] <squinty> nis,  look for it by using  lsusb or lspci
[23:37] <Bashing-om> hoopoo685: ' sudo apt update ; sudo apt full-upgrade ' . To make sure you are current .
[23:38] <nis> squinty: is this wat youb are looking for 07:00.0 Network controller: Broadcom Corporation BCM43142 802.11b/g/n (rev 01)
[23:39] <hoopoo685> Thanks
[23:40] <squinty> nis,  sounds like it
[23:45] <squinty> nis,  seems quite a few hits when googling for that model.  here is another page which also says that a user's problem was solved by grabbing the windows related file (also outlined in a previous link I sent you)    http://askubuntu.com/questions/533043/bluetooth-not-working-on-ubuntu-14-04-with-dell-inspiron-15-3521
[23:49] <gumbo> help
[23:49] <gumbo> lol i tried to set up pptpd but its not connecting
[23:50] <gumbo> its ona ubuntu 14.04 server lts
[23:52] <squinty> nis,  off to prepare supper etc here...  hope you make some headway on your problem. ttyl
[23:52] <nis> squinty: ttyl
[23:57] <DashingThunder> Hi