| IrcsomeBot1 | <Clifford> Lol | 00:48 |
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| IrcsomeBot1 | <Clifford> You think by changing topic it will get done faster ?!? | 00:49 |
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| clivejo | mamarley: so how did the FW5.22 installation go? | 10:08 |
| mamarley | clivejo: It went fine. The systems seems to function fine. I launched several applications and played around with them without any apparent problems. | 10:09 |
| mamarley | Good job :) | 10:09 |
| clivejo | Im still fighting with this router | 10:10 |
| clivejo | stopped working over night | 10:10 |
| clivejo | I was using it on my laptop fine last night, but when my phone connects it says internet not connected and disconnects | 10:12 |
| clivejo | how do you remove just one icon from the panel? | 10:13 |
| clivejo | I keep dragging and dropping the browser and creating a permanant shortcut | 10:14 |
| mamarley | The way with which I am familiar is to unlock the panel, mouse over the undesired icon, and click the "X" on the popup that appears. | 10:15 |
| clivejo | ah | 10:17 |
| clivejo | have to click the hamburger menu and put it into edit mode | 10:17 |
| soee | mamarley: activities work fine on 5.22 ? | 10:18 |
| clivejo | LOL Ive removed the entire panel numberous time to get rid of it! | 10:18 |
| mamarley | soee: I don't use activities and don't know how to test them. | 10:18 |
| soee | clivejo: ... :D | 10:18 |
| clivejo | looks like the networkmanager-qt got some movement | 10:20 |
| clivejo | patch has made it into yakkety | 10:22 |
| mamarley | Is there anything else to be done before FW5.22 can be backported to Xenial? | 10:24 |
| clivejo | mamarley: there are some major changes to the way things are structured | 10:26 |
| mamarley | Between 5.21 and 5.22? | 10:26 |
| clivejo | It looks like FW and Plasma will have to be shipped together otherwise there will be major breakage | 10:26 |
| clivejo | KDE have moved stuff about | 10:26 |
| mamarley | Ah, I see where you rebuilt Plasma in the staging-frameworks PPA too. I didn't notice that when I upgraded the VM. | 10:27 |
| clivejo | split packages up, new ones going into FW | 10:27 |
| mamarley | Oh wait, I was actually looking at staging-plasma. | 10:28 |
| clivejo | I havent rebuilt Plasma on FW5.22 | 10:28 |
| clivejo | there was a release about kwallet needing to be respun due to a regression | 10:28 |
| clivejo | Im basically waiting on that (i cant find the respun tarball) | 10:29 |
| mamarley | Yeah, sorry, I was looking at staging-plasma, not staging-frameworks. Clicked the wrong link. | 10:29 |
| clivejo | oh | 10:30 |
| clivejo | they have named it the same! | 10:30 |
| clivejo | I was looking for kwallet v5.22.0-rc2 | 10:31 |
| clivejo | duh! | 10:31 |
| sitter | tarball names do not change until tarballs go public | 10:31 |
| clivejo | ah, I didnt know that! | 10:31 |
| clivejo | thanks sitter | 10:32 |
| clivejo | sitter: how is Jon? | 10:32 |
| clivejo | he back to work? | 10:32 |
| sitter | clivejo: still alive ^^ | 10:38 |
| clivejo | sore I bet | 10:38 |
| clivejo | sitter: whats going on with translations, are they being shipped with the actual packages now? | 10:40 |
| soee | Italian Military to Save Up to 29 Million Euro by Migrating to LibreOffice :) | 10:44 |
| sitter | clivejo: frameworks/plasma always shipped translations in the package | 10:47 |
| sitter | I do not have the faintest idea why apps doesn't | 10:47 |
| clivejo | very strange why they shipping them in two packages | 10:48 |
| soee | bleh, Nextbuttons still does not work in installer | 11:28 |
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| BluesKaj | Hiyas all | 11:52 |
| sitter | wgrant: FYI archive.ubuntu has /ubuntu/ ad infinitum http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ubuntu/ubuntu/ubuntu/ubuntu/ubuntu/ubuntu/ubuntu/ :) | 12:04 |
| sitter | wgrant: [14:06] <bshah> after http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ubuntu/ubuntu/ubuntu/ubuntu/ubuntu/ubuntu/ubuntu/ubuntu/ubuntu/ubuntu/ubuntu/ubuntu/ubuntu/ubuntu/ubuntu/ubuntu/ubuntu/ubuntu/ubuntu/ubuntu/ubuntu/ubuntu/ubuntu/ubuntu/ubuntu/ubuntu/ubuntu/ubuntu/ubuntu/ubuntu/ubuntu/ubuntu/ubuntu/ubuntu/ubuntu/ubuntu/ubuntu/ubuntu/ubuntu/ ubuntu disappears | 12:07 |
| bshah | xD | 12:07 |
| sitter | I find it suspicious that you actually tried that :P | 12:08 |
| bshah | and then it have http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ubuntu/ubuntu/ubuntu/ubuntu/ubuntu/ubuntu/ubuntu/ubuntu/ubuntu/ubuntu/ubuntu/ubuntu/ubuntu/ubuntu/ubuntu/ubuntu/ubuntu/ubuntu/ubuntu/ubuntu/ubuntu/ubuntu/ubuntu/ubuntu/ubuntu/ubuntu/ubuntu/ubuntu/ubuntu/ubuntu/ubuntu/ubuntu/ubuntu/ubuntu/ubuntu/ubuntu/ubuntu/ubuntu/ubuntu/Archive-Update-in-Progress-ubuntu-economy | 12:08 |
| bshah | which have 0 | 12:08 |
| bshah | xD | 12:08 |
| sitter | that's a transient file I think, 404s now | 12:09 |
| bshah | no.. is crazy.. | 12:09 |
| bshah | shows up once and gives 404 other times | 12:10 |
| bshah | :P | 12:10 |
| mgraesslin | hey, did you disable drkonqi in favor of apport in the 16.04 release? | 12:23 |
| acheron88 | That's a shame :( http://scarlettgatelyclark.com/2016/kubuntu-farewell-my-friends/ | 12:30 |
| BluesKaj | clivejo: is there a fix for activities in plasma 5.6.3 ,? I had to revert to 5.5.5 | 12:34 |
| IrcsomeBot | <Clifford> Anyone using YY and plasma 5.6.3 done a system upgrade today? | 13:41 |
| soee | mamarley: ^ ? | 13:41 |
| mamarley | clivejo: Yeah, I upgraded earlier this morning on Yakkety with both FW5.22 and Plasma 5.6.3. | 13:42 |
| IrcsomeBot | <Clifford> I think I had a kernel upgrade and I'm not able to get login screen | 13:42 |
| soee | Cliv what kernel are you running now ? 4.6 ? | 13:43 |
| mamarley | Hmm, let me try it again. | 13:43 |
| mamarley | Oops, I just remembered that I can't remotely access the laptop with the VM due to a network configuration thing I was testing. It will have to wait until later, sorry. | 13:45 |
| IrcsomeBot | <Clifford> Yup seems to be the kernel | 13:45 |
| clivejo | soee: on 4.4.0-21-generic now, but wont load Nvidia driver in 4.4.0-22-generic | 13:45 |
| mamarley | clivejo: Try reinstalling the NVIDIA driver? Perhaps it just didn't get compiled for 4.4.0-22 for some reason. | 13:46 |
| soee | well 4.4.0-22 works fine for me on Xenial with latest nvidia driver | 13:47 |
| clivejo | removing | 13:49 |
| clivejo | going for reboot | 13:50 |
| IrcsomeBot | <Clifford> This is something more serious | 14:04 |
| soee | oh ? | 14:05 |
| IrcsomeBot | <Clifford> Removed nvidia driver | 14:05 |
| IrcsomeBot | <Clifford> And reinstalled | 14:05 |
| IrcsomeBot | <Clifford> Can't build the driver | 14:05 |
| soee | what? | 14:06 |
| mamarley | Which driver version? What error was made? | 14:06 |
| IrcsomeBot | <Clifford> And I removed the one for .21 | 14:06 |
| IrcsomeBot | <Clifford> So I cant get into my desktop now | 14:06 |
| acheron88 | 361.42 builds OK here on kernel 4.4.0-22 | 14:07 |
| IrcsomeBot | <Clifford> I noticed a GCC update | 14:10 |
| IrcsomeBot | <Clifford> Kernel package headers not supported | 14:10 |
| mamarley | acheron88: Are you on Xenial or Yakkety? | 14:11 |
| acheron88 | mamarley: xenial, so toolchain may be different clive's thinking upon it | 14:14 |
| IrcsomeBot | <Clifford> This is yakkety | 14:14 |
| mamarley | Yeah, that's probably it. -22 is not a major kernel upgrade, so I would be surprised if it broke NVIDIA compilation. | 14:14 |
| mamarley | I did not see the problem because, of course, my VM does not have an NVIDIA graphics card. | 14:14 |
| acheron88 | I hesitating over yakkety upgrade ATM | 14:15 |
| IrcsomeBot | <Clifford> I'm fed up. Not having a good day today | 14:16 |
| acheron88 | Have a Nvidia card here as well, so may be a consideration | 14:16 |
| acheron88 | may have to try in a VM/chroot to see, if it will build in those | 14:17 |
| IrcsomeBot | <Clifford> Router is fecked so have to rely on mobile data which is pathetic here | 14:25 |
| soee | CLiv new router is not an option? | 14:29 |
| * mamarley would recommend something on which OpenWRT/LEDE could be installed. | 14:30 | |
| IrcsomeBot | <Clifford> I'm in middle of no where. Things have to be ordered and mailed out | 14:49 |
| IrcsomeBot | <Clifford> (Photo, 1280x720) https://irc-attachments.kde.org/O9zUJq7M/file_20.jpg | 14:50 |
| mamarley | Yeah, definitely looks to be toolchain-related. | 14:50 |
| * mamarley wonders if it might be a good idea to bring KF5/Plasma/etc. to Xenial first for a while until a little farther along in the development process when this sort of thing is less likely to happen. | 14:52 | |
| mamarley | It would facilitate easier and more thorough testing. | 14:52 |
| soee | 340 driver version, so old ? | 14:55 |
| mamarley | Maybe he has a 8xx0/9xx0 card? | 14:55 |
| IrcsomeBot | <Clifford> Sorry guys. Running out of patients with this. I'll be out of action for a bit until I get this sorted out | 15:20 |
| * mamarley slaps clivejo's router around a bit with a large trout. | 15:21 | |
| IrcsomeBot | <Clifford> Yeah just the prefect storm. Cant fix it without a decent connection to down the packages | 15:22 |
| IrcsomeBot | <Clifford> BTW can some report this to ubuntu-devel about the errors compiling drivers | 15:27 |
| acheron88 | perhaps try going back to nouveau as a stopgap? | 15:27 |
| IrcsomeBot | <Clifford> I've tried. Can't get sddm to start | 15:29 |
| acheron88 | kwin/plasma runs OK here with that, albeit a bit laggy | 15:29 |
| IrcsomeBot | <Clifford> Just black screen | 15:29 |
| acheron88 | ummmm... | 15:29 |
| IrcsomeBot | <Clifford> Just having a bad day! | 15:31 |
| acheron88 | just seeing if I can get it to compile on yak's toolchain | 15:34 |
| acheron88 | clivejo: I get http://paste.ubuntu.com/16364083/ | 15:42 |
| BluesKaj | my network-manager widget no longer loads the icon or the associated VPN list, I canopen the nm-connection-editor but the context menu to make a connection isn't loading with right click,....I have this huge error message popup that starts with ERROR loading QML file .... | 15:49 |
| BluesKaj | wonder if anyone else has this issue | 15:50 |
| acheron88 | someone else said they had issues configuring vpn with that? | 15:56 |
| acheron88 | not sure if same issue though... | 15:58 |
| acheron88 | clivejo: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1574982 | 16:25 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 1574982 in dkms (Ubuntu) "Cannot use CONFIG_CC_STACKPROTECTOR_STRONG: -fstack-protector-strong not supported by compiler" [High,Confirmed] | 16:25 |
| murthy | sgclark: Just saw your post? whats happening? | 16:31 |
| IrcsomeBot | <Clifford> So if I install that updated package gcc-defaults I should be able to compile kernel modules again? | 16:46 |
| soee | that i do not know | 16:53 |
| IrcsomeBot | <Clifford> *clivejo shakes a trout at soee* | 16:55 |
| acheron88 | clivejo: trying to get the gist of that, and think it could be new patched kernel from the kernel team that is needed? | 16:58 |
| IrcsomeBot | <Clifford> Looks like a setting needs to be passed to compiler | 16:59 |
| acheron88 | yes, sounds like that would fix in short term. While new kernel with revised headers is the more permanent fix? | 17:03 |
| acheron88 | clivejo: adding 'EXTRA_CFLAGS += -fno-pie -fno-stack-protector' to /usr/src/nvidia-340-340.96/nvidia-modules-common.mk after line 40 seems to fix compile in a chroot here | 17:16 |
| acheron88 | then do 'dkms build nvidia-340/340.96 -k 4.4.0-21-generic' | 17:17 |
| acheron88 | and 'dkms install nvidia-340/340.96 -k 4.4.0-21-generic' | 17:17 |
| IrcsomeBot | <Clifford> I've no data plan left to download the driver again | 17:18 |
| acheron88 | is it not in your apt cache? | 17:18 |
| IrcsomeBot | <Clifford> Nope | 17:18 |
| IrcsomeBot | <Clifford> And even 52mb on 2g is like watching paint dry | 17:19 |
| IrcsomeBot | <Clifford> *clivejo throws router out the window* | 17:20 |
| acheron88 | when I tried in chroot it used packages - libcuda1-340 nvidia-340 nvidia-opencl-icd-340 | 17:21 |
| acheron88 | I see them in /var/cache/apt/archives/ of my chroot still | 17:22 |
| IrcsomeBot | <Clifford> :) | 17:28 |
| IrcsomeBot | <Clifford> It built the module | 17:28 |
| IrcsomeBot | <Clifford> How do I make the system install it?!? | 17:28 |
| acheron88 | should auto install with dkms | 17:29 |
| acheron88 | if not, then those 2 dkms commands earlier will do | 17:29 |
| IrcsomeBot | <Clifford> Oooooo | 17:30 |
| IrcsomeBot | <Clifford> That looks better | 17:31 |
| IrcsomeBot | <Clifford> Fingers crossed | 17:31 |
| acheron88 | may build. big question is does it load and work on boot though | 17:32 |
| IrcsomeBot | <Clifford> Nope driver won't load | 17:32 |
| IrcsomeBot | <Clifford> Still blank screen | 17:32 |
| acheron88 | rebooted? | 17:32 |
| IrcsomeBot | <Clifford> Yup | 17:33 |
| acheron88 | after a 'update-initramfs -u -k all' | 17:33 |
| acheron88 | may need that ^^^ | 17:34 |
| acheron88 | then reboot | 17:35 |
| acheron88 | whenever I've had to rebuild the nvidia driver for some reason | 17:36 |
| acheron88 | I always do the | 17:36 |
| acheron88 | dkms build | 17:36 |
| acheron88 | dkms install | 17:36 |
| acheron88 | update-initramfs | 17:37 |
| acheron88 | then reboot | 17:37 |
| acheron88 | If it doesn't work after that, it fubar in some other way | 17:37 |
| IrcsomeBot | <Clifford> See the nvidia installer is there any way to hack it to add the extra flags | 17:45 |
| acheron88 | the one invoked by dpkg in the debs? or the binary .run one from nvidia's site? | 17:47 |
| IrcsomeBot | <Clifford> .run | 17:47 |
| IrcsomeBot | <Clifford> I have an old driver in a backup folder | 17:47 |
| acheron88 | you can run the nvidia website one as extract only, then hack the nvidia module code and run the installer from the extracted folder I think | 17:48 |
| IrcsomeBot | <Clifford> You happen to know how to extract it? | 17:49 |
| acheron88 | make it executable and run with a flag I think? 2 secs | 17:49 |
| IrcsomeBot | <Clifford> Sorry everything is so slow on my phone | 17:50 |
| acheron88 | run the .bin file from command line with '--extract-only' flag | 17:51 |
| acheron88 | should give you a 'NVIDIA-Linux-x86_64-340.96' folder with and executable called 'nvidia-installer' in that | 17:54 |
| acheron88 | and the mudule code to add the compiler flags to in a 'kernel' subfolder | 17:54 |
| acheron88 | I've only had variable luck with that method in the past though, so good luck if you try it | 17:56 |
| BluesKaj | acheron88: so the kernel module for the nvidia 340 is corrupted then. I got an error message to that effect earlier whe i was trying to install it on 16.10 | 17:56 |
| acheron88 | not corrupted, but doesn't work well with the GCC/toolchain and kernel headers currently in yakkety I think? | 17:58 |
| BluesKaj | yeah this kerenel, 4.4.0-22-generic | 17:58 |
| IrcsomeBot | <Clifford> Can't get -21 or -22 to work | 17:59 |
| IrcsomeBot | <Clifford> It compiles the modules with no errors | 17:59 |
| IrcsomeBot | <Clifford> But just a blank screen | 17:59 |
| IrcsomeBot | <Clifford> It should flash the nvidia logo for like a second | 18:00 |
| BluesKaj | I have to use nouveau with Xrender backend , OpenGL just cause allkinds of problems | 18:00 |
| IrcsomeBot | <Clifford> Before dropping into plasma login screen | 18:00 |
| acheron88 | Yep, compiling and installing is one thing. Working on runtime is another completely | 18:00 |
| IrcsomeBot | <Clifford> Shame I purged the working one for -21 | 18:01 |
| acheron88 | I was pondering whether to risk yakkety. Now I know to avoid on this Nvidia machine for a bit | 18:02 |
| BluesKaj | and NM widget errors out inwith some QML not loadinhg message | 18:02 |
| IrcsomeBot | <Clifford> Looks like I'll be out of action for a few days! | 18:02 |
| BluesKaj | I had the same nvidia problems yesterday with 16.04 | 18:03 |
| mamarley | The problem experience by clivejo is caused by the gcc in Yakkety and therefore does not affect Xenial. You probably had some other problem. | 18:04 |
| KurousagiMK2 | linux (4.4.0-22.39) buid witch gcc-5 (5.3.1-14ubuntu2)... in YY gcc-5 (5.3.1-19ubuntu1) with --enable-default-pie. | 18:04 |
| BluesKaj | the 340 driver is getting long in the tooth anyway...may need to invest in a better gpu if this keeps up | 18:04 |
| acheron88 | KurousagiMK2: is that a fixed -22 build? | 18:05 |
| BluesKaj | I should have done a clean install of Xenial instead of just installing to / and setting the mountpoint for /home when I regressed from Yakkety | 18:07 |
| acheron88 | oh. no. | 18:07 |
| BluesKaj | yeah | 18:07 |
| BluesKaj | but i did totally clean Yakkety install this morning so at least nouveau works ok with Xrender | 18:09 |
| KurousagiMK2 | try kernel 4.6-rc7 for YY from this ppa https://launchpad.net/~canonical-kernel-team/+archive/ubuntu/ppa | 18:11 |
| acheron88 | BluesKaj: yes, I did a cleanup with a fresh install of xenial on this machine a couple of weeks ago, and nouveau works well enough if you don't want OpenGL fancy stuff | 18:11 |
| sick_rimmit | o/ | 18:13 |
| BluesKaj | KurousagiMK2: does the kernal work ok for you | 18:29 |
| KurousagiMK2 | on YY yes. | 18:31 |
| acheron88 | aha: http://kernel.ubuntu.com/git/kernel-ppa/mirror/unstable.git/commit/?id=c1613c321d28bf3f180e3b34ed1c82b4f7d90503 | 18:44 |
| acheron88 | and nvidia module builds, loads and runs to sddm login with that? | 18:45 |
| KurousagiMK2 | should, bun for nvidia-graphics-drivers-364 need patch to add support for Linux 4.6. https://launchpad.net/~graphics-drivers/+archive/ubuntu/ppa/+sourcepub/6403042/+listing-archive-extra | 18:51 |
| valorie | hello folks, I've been called to my dad's bedside - taking my travel computer, but the wifi is awful there so no irc. I should have telegram, but unknown whether I'll even open the laptop there | 19:10 |
| valorie | ttyl | 19:10 |
| ovidiuflorin | yofel clivejo so I take it that the SRU for the networkmanager-qt went through? | 19:14 |
| ovidiuflorin | I see the bug is fixed released | 19:14 |
| soee | clivejo: has bad day | 19:19 |
| soee | his router is dying and system not working :) | 19:19 |
| mamarley | That's why I suggested that it might be a good idea to package the new stuff for Xenial for a while until Yakkety has time to become more stable. | 19:21 |
| soee | mamarley: yup but usual way to do stuff is current -> previous | 19:42 |
| mamarley | But that won't work if problems with the system prevent packagers from packaging and testers from testing. | 19:43 |
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