[00:01] <Guest4702> two major bugs in Xubuntu 16.04: 1) wifi dies after suspend, have to reboot to get it back, and 2) cursor disappears after a suspend. Anyone else experience this, and discover fixes?
[00:02] <drong0> Guest4702, yes about the cursor
[00:04] <Village> Hello, when i try run eggdrop i -get can't find package cellgen 2.0
[00:04] <Village> So what package i need install?
[00:04] <Guest4702> drong0 have you been able to fix it?
[00:06] <Village> Guest4702, no idea?
[00:09] <Village> I think i found
[00:16] <systemd0wn> Question, I'm having some odd dependency issues on 15.10. I install (apt-get) libxslt1-dev (which I need to keep). However, when I go to remove packages later (can provide a list) my libxslt1-dev package is removed. But I'm not specifically mentioning this package.
[00:19] <drong0> Guest4702, hmmm i saw a solution around
[00:19] <drong0> googling again
[00:20] <Jordan_U> systemd0wn: You can look at "apt show libxslt1-dev" and see what its dependencies are. You can't remove any of those packages, or any of the packages they then depend on. You can also remove what you want to remove then re-install libxslt1-dev and see what else it installs, which will tell you exactly what packages you removed libxst1-dev depends on. Once you've figure that out, we can figure out why
[00:20] <Jordan_U> libxst1-dev depends on them, and where to go from there.
[00:23] <systemd0wn> Jordan_U: thanks. That's the road I started down but was hoping someone would tell me there was an easier way :)
[00:24] <Guy1524> I tried asking this on ##linux, but nobody had any answers.  I have a linux box with a GPU and ethernet for using as the host for steam in-home streaming, but it has no monitors.  Is there a way to, after it boots up, remotely launch a desktop manager like xfce, and launch steam locally, disconnect from the session, and use it for in home streaming?
[00:24] <systemd0wn> Jordan_U: Oh, so since one of the dependencies relies on gcc... If I go to `apt-get purge gcc` it's going to remove my lib package?
[00:24] <JanC> systemd0wn: when you remove packages, apt should warn you about other packages that also need removing
[00:25] <gumbo> any help with pptpd not connecting
[00:25] <gumbo> installed and set it up on vps
[00:25] <JanC> so if you remove them one by one, it should be obvious which one is the culprit
[00:26] <TuxTheRabbit> yo
[00:26] <drong0> Guest4702, http://software.techforums.space/software/disappearing-mouse-pointer-after-lock-and-hibernation-0eb3da38.html
[00:27] <TuxTheRabbit> ubuntu os glitchy
[00:27] <TuxTheRabbit> is
[00:27] <syadmin> Hello. When opening a port for a daemon, I get to chose the IP address or wildcard "*". But can I specify a network, for example 192.168.10.*:80  ?
[00:27] <nis> squinty: u still there?
[00:27] <systemd0wn> JanC, that's what I thought but it's not...
[00:28] <systemd0wn> JanC: Jordan_U: Here is my example: http://pastebin.com/XyWYRqnQ
[00:28] <systemd0wn> JanC: Ah good point. I'll try one by one
[00:28] <gumbo> man wtf
[00:28] <gumbo> can a brother get some help
[00:28] <Jordan_U> TuxTheRabbit: Do you have a specific problem you'd like help fixing?
[00:29] <TuxTheRabbit> with what
[00:29] <TuxTheRabbit> nah
[00:29] <TuxTheRabbit> im going to slackware 14.2
[00:29] <gumbo> setting up pptpd
[00:29] <JanC> systemd0wn: there might be an option that removes packages that were installed as dependencies without asking; check the manual for that
[00:29] <gumbo> @ TuxTheRabbit
[00:29] <TuxTheRabbit> =/
[00:30] <nacc> Guy1524: https://steamcommunity.com/groups/homestream/discussions/0/540737414391869192/ ?
[00:30] <systemd0wn> JanC: Ya, looks like g++ is the culprit here.
[00:30] <Guy1524> thanks!
[00:31] <TuxTheRabbit> =(
[00:31] <nacc> Guy1524: no guarantees, but that's where i'd go to start (and there might be more topics in those forums that are relevant)
[00:31] <Jordan_U> TuxTheRabbit: OK, then please keep this channel free of clutter so that those that do want support can get it.
[00:31] <Guy1524> ok
[00:31] <TuxTheRabbit> i am
[00:31] <TuxTheRabbit> jordan
[00:32] <Jordan_U> TuxTheRabbit: No. You're not. You've posted nothing but offtopic messages since you joined the channel. Please stop, or I will remove you from the channel.
[00:32] <nacc> Guy1524: i would try searching for "headless server" in the context of steam -- that's basically what you're after, if i understand it (and it does seem to be a tricky configuration, or at least not trivially supported, even in windows)
[00:33] <Guy1524> ok
[00:33] <TuxTheRabbit> what are you talking about? What off topic? No one has spoken to me, and no one has asked a question towards me. This channel is for talking, correct? Why are you being hostile?
[00:33] <Guy1524> I am looking at a way into tricking the graphx card into thinking there is a display
[00:33] <TuxTheRabbit> I have not flooded the lobby
[00:33] <nacc> Guy1524: but i see a lot of hits for that (headless steam box linux) in google, at least (so it's somewhat commonly asked too)
[00:34] <Guy1524> ok, Ill do that instead
[00:34] <Jordan_U> TuxTheRabbit: This channel is not for "talking", that would be #ubuntu-offtopic. This channel is for productive support discussion only. If you'd like to discuss this channel's policies, please join #ubuntu-ops.
[00:34] <nacc> Guy1524: sorry I don't have more details than that
[00:34] <Guy1524> ok, thanks
[00:34] <TuxTheRabbit> Ok, point taken.
[00:35] <TuxTheRabbit> Adios.
[00:36] <tooryasnm> anyone can help a bit with conky?
[00:37] <Gnomethrower> https://i.imgflip.com/13xks7.jpg
[00:41] <TuxTheRabbit> I do have a question
[00:41] <TuxTheRabbit> Jordan
[00:43] <TuxTheRabbit> Why does flash/videos freeze on ubuntu 14+
[00:46] <nis> bluetooth not working......cant detect it .......any suggestions?
[00:50] <nis> bluetooth not detected....any suggestions
[00:51] <nacc> !patience | nis
[00:52] <nis> nacc: i think i might have done something to firmware that it is not detected now
[00:56] <hoopoo685> I try 'sudo apt update' but I get 'You may want to run apt-get update to correct these problem'
[00:56] <hoopoo685> I'm on developmental 16.06
[00:57] <hoopoo685> Apparently I have packages from both i386 and i686
[00:58] <hoopoo685> Have no clue how to get rid of them in /etc/apt/sources.list
[00:59] <hoopoo685> Any ideas?
[01:03] <nacc> hoopoo685: do you mean 16.04?
[01:03] <hoopoo685> yes
[01:03] <hoopoo685> sorry
[01:03] <nis> anyone know how to get bluetooth working?
[01:03] <nacc> hoopoo685: that's been released, it's not 'developmental'
[01:04] <hoopoo685> I got it a while ago
[01:04] <nacc> hoopoo685: are those packages causing you a problem? also, i'm not sure what you mean, did you install 32-bit Ubuntu?
[01:04] <hoopoo685> but now I can't switch to the stable one
[01:04] <hoopoo685> I'm on a 64 bit system
[01:05] <hoopoo685> but many of my packages are i386
[01:05] <Bashing-om> hoopoo685: Post into a pastebin ' sudo apt update ; sudo apt full-upgrade ' so we see what the issue is .
[01:08] <hoopoo685> for "sudo apt update" it runs some lines but in the ends says "You may want to run apt-get update to correct these problems"
[01:08] <Bashing-om> !pastebinit | hoopoo685
[01:10] <orlock> Is there a way i can pxe boot into a 16.04 live cd?
[01:11] <Jordan_U> orlock: You can pxe boot into the minimal installer easily. Any reason you want to boot the liveCD?
[01:12] <orlock> Honestly, i just need dd and a shell
[01:12] <orlock> so if the minimal installer gives me that, i should be fine
[01:12] <orlock> but i was just thinking it would be a handy thing to have in the future
[01:12] <Bashing-om> hoopoo685: 'sudo apt install pastebinit ; sudo apt update | pastebinit ; sudo apt upgrade -y | pastebinit ' .
[01:13] <orlock> because, i mean - why not?
[01:13] <Jordan_U> orlock: I don't know if it has dd, but it has apt-get.
[01:13] <rhorse> nisstyre: first make sure you've got the driver installed and loaded into the kernel
[01:14] <hoopoo685> for pastebinit is says I should activate the component called 'main'
[01:14] <hoopoo685> it says*
[01:16] <Bashing-om> hoopoo685: Do you have a GUI .. and if so what is the Desktop Environment? .. to check that "main" repository is enabled .
[01:17] <hoopoo685> No
[01:19] <hoopoo685> I'm on some form of a developmental version of 16.04
[01:19] <Bashing-om> hoopoo685: Run ' cat /etc/apt/sources.list | nc termbin.com 9999 ' . We see what sources you have enabled . Pass the resulting link back here .
[01:22] <UserUS> how do I check my disk for error in the console
[01:23] <Bashing-om> UserUS: File system errors or hardware errors ?
[01:23] <palegreen300> Hey folks.
[01:23] <palegreen300> Got the latest Ubuntu and all is well except for one thing.
[01:23] <palegreen300> I've got screen tearing going on regarding textg.
[01:24] <palegreen300> I never had this with 15.10 but have it with the LTS 16.04.
[01:24] <UserUS> hardware
[01:24] <palegreen300> Any ideas what's gone wrong?
[01:24] <palegreen300> Never had with 15.10, like I said.
[01:24] <palegreen300> Doesn't sound like HW.
[01:24] <palegreen300> Typically
[01:24] <palegreen300> ONE LINE on a page of text in Firefox has screen tearing.
[01:25] <palegreen300> This was never the case with 15.10.
[01:25] <palegreen300> It happened ONLY after I upgraded to 16.04 LTS.
[01:25] <Jordan_U> palegreen300: What GPU are you using? What driver is it using?
[01:25] <UserUS> Bashing-om: hardware
[01:25] <palegreen300> I'm using the Intel integrated graphics on my 3805U CPU.
[01:25] <hoopoo685> http://termbin.com/ndcd
[01:26] <palegreen300> I'm using MARCOS with the HARDWARE GPU but to tell you the truth
[01:26] <palegreen300> I've tried all the WINDOW MANGERS and haven't noticed any difference.
[01:26] <palegreen300> This 3805U is a beautiful CPU by the way but it does have the Intel integrated graphics.
[01:26] <palegreen300> Like I say, NO PROBLEMs with the 15.10
[01:27] <palegreen300> but with the 16.04 LTS i've got the screen tearing regarding text.
[01:27] <Bashing-om> UserUS: https://www.smartmontools.org/ ; https://www.thomas-krenn.com/en/wiki/SMART_tests_with_smartctl#Viewing_the_Test_Results ; https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Smartmontools .
[01:27] <palegreen300> Look, I don't want to do anything too technical.
[01:27] <Jordan_U> palegreen300: Please pastebin the output of "glxinfo" and the contents of /var/log/Xorg.0.log. Can you reproduce this problem with a 16.04 LiveUSB?
[01:27] <Bashing-om> hoopoo685: looking .
[01:29] <palegreen300> Jordan_U, http://pastebin.com/iFZSqR9c
[01:29] <palegreen300> Does this help you?
[01:29] <palegreen300> How do I pastebin the contents of var log XORG 0 log?
[01:29] <Jordan_U> hoopoo685: "sudo apt update 2>&1 | nc termbin.com 9999" then "sudo apt upgrade 2>&1 | nc termbin.com 9999" please.
[01:30] <Jordan_U> palegreen300: pastebinit /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[01:30] <Bashing-om> hoopoo685: "main" repo is enabled . " deb http://ca.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ xenial main restricted " . try with termbin ' sudo apt update | | nc termbin.com 9999 ' .
[01:31] <palegreen300> Jordan_U, http://paste.ubuntu.com/16354614/
[01:31] <palegreen300> Jordan_U, Are you an official coder?
[01:31] <palegreen300> That sure is a lot of data. I don't know anyone who could make sense of it.
[01:33] <leafwind> How can I fund someone in the linux kernel dev team to solve this issue: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1578621
[01:34] <leafwind> no combination of acpi boot options led to a solution. acpi=off does not deliver a machine that can be used in production.
[01:34] <Jordan_U> palegreen300: I don't read all of it, I'm primarily looking for error messages and what driver is in use.
[01:35] <Jordan_U> palegreen300: I am not a maintainer of any Ubuntu packages if that's what you're asking, so I am not an "Ubuntu Developer".
[01:35] <hoopoo685> From your first comment I got this link..
[01:36] <hoopoo685> http://termbin.com/f9bx
[01:36] <wymillerlinux_> leafwind: personally, i would build a fresh new kernel instead of waiting for a new LTS release
[01:36] <palegreen300> Jordan_U, Do you see why I'd have screen tearing regarding text?
[01:36] <nis> squinty: u there man?
[01:37] <leafwind> wymillerlinux_: willing to. Any fresh instructions on how to do so for ubuntu 16.04?
[01:39] <Jordan_U> palegreen300: No. Are you able to reproduce the problem from an Ubuntu 16.04 LiveUSB?
[01:39] <wymillerlinux_> leafwind: it's really all the same for all linux distributions. build directions are in the readme of the kernel directory once you've downloaded and extracted your copy of the kernel from kernel.org
[01:39] <nis> my bluetooth headphone is detected but not connected anyone know a fix?
[01:39] <Bashing-om> hoopoo685: I am running away real hard " libc6-dev : Depends: libc6 (= 2.19-0ubuntu6.6) but 2.21-0ubuntu5 is installed " The heart of the operating system is in jepordy .
[01:40] <palegreen300> Jordan_U, I don't know, but if you're not an official coder I'm not going put in hours of effort to appease you.
[01:40] <leafwind> wymillerlinux_: great thank you
[01:40] <wymillerlinux_> leafwind: anytime :)
[01:41] <leafwind> wymillerlinux_: I've tried running 4.6-rc7-wily on 16.04 and the issue is the same (freezes at desktop password prompt)
[01:41] <hoopoo685> I see..
[01:41] <leafwind> wymillerlinux_: I wonder whether compiling a new kernel will really make a difference. Something is up with acpi and I don't know what.
[01:41] <hoopoo685> In your second comment I didn't quite understand what you meant by "deb http://ca.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ xenial main restricted"
[01:42] <Bashing-om> hoopoo685: Possible maybe to be fixable . But .. I have my doubts .. My opinion, you are better served to do a fresh install .
[01:42] <hoopoo685> But for "sudo apt update | nc termbin.com 9999 " I received the following link..
[01:42] <hoopoo685> http://termbin.com/f9bx
[01:44] <Guy1524> hey guys, so nobody is answering me on ##linux, is there a way to fake a display in ubuntu so an X server gets started using my nvidia proprietary drivers
[01:44] <wymillerlinux_> leafwind: but remember, that kernel that you mentioned is a release canidate but you bring up an interesting point. i had a similar issue of having my computer shutdown by itself and i had to turn acpi off until i got a new video card
[01:44] <Bashing-om> hoopoo685: A huge amount of " The following packages have unmet dependencies:" for which one of then is "libc6" . That one is crucial .
[01:44] <Guy1524> I really want to run steam headlessly using my proprietary drivers
[01:44] <noons> Ok is it me or is openstack totally broken in 16.04?
[01:44] <hoopoo685> Ok.. I'm gonna try a fresh install
[01:44] <hoopoo685> Thank you :)
[01:45] <Bashing-om> hoopoo685: I do welcome others opinions here .
[01:45] <noons> It now relies on juju to install openstack yet it doesnt support MAAS2... and MAAS1 isn't avail..
[01:45] <leafwind> wymillerlinux_: will try latest stable 4.5.3 .. older than 4.6-rc7. But point is, 3.13.76 from hardy works well.
[01:45] <palegreen300> Hey ladies.
[01:45] <hrob> I'm trying to use sendmail on my ubuntu 14.04, I'm testing if I can send a notification to my gmail account
[01:45] <palegreen300> I've had a bit too much to drink and I"m ready to go down on you tonightg.
[01:46] <palegreen300> Message me in private.
[01:46] <hrob> I simply installed sendmail with apt -- and sent a testmail, but no indication of delivery on the gmail side, or in trash/spam folder
[01:46] <wymillerlinux_> leafwind: if you don't have any exotic hardware, i'd personally try the 3.13.76 kernel but that's totally up to you :)
[01:47] <leafwind> wymillerlinux_: issue is, 3.13.76 doesn't support hot plugging thunderbolt devices, which is a pain
[01:47] <leafwind> wymillerlinux_: all kenels have something a bit broken.
[01:48] <wymillerlinux_> leafwind: and i'm assuming you have thunderbolt devices? that's rough...golf clap for being the real mvp
[01:49] <wymillerlinux_> leafwind: in that case, i'd go with the latest stable
[01:49] <leafwind> wymillerlinux_: that's what is compiling right now.
[01:50] <wymillerlinux_> leafwind: cool beans, hopefully it will work for you
[01:54] <nis> anyone know what a fix to this error is Connection Failed: blueman.bluez.errors.DBusFailedError: Protocol not available
[02:01] <wdi14> Hi, please, how do I change the drive letter on the terminal?
[02:02] <wdi14> I want to copy files from my pen drive
[02:04] <droope> Hi there, how can I install a specific version of a package? In particular, I want to install php5-gd version 5.6.11+dfsg-1ubuntu3.1 and not 5.6.11+dfsg-1ubuntu3.3 which is the latest.
[02:04] <droope> I've found https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/php5/5.6.11+dfsg-1ubuntu3.1, do I just get that source, make and make install?
[02:08] <Bashing-om> wdi14: A copy operation is from some source ( here the pen drive ) to a destination . 1st is to know the source . what returns ' ls -al /media/<user_name> ' ?
[02:09] <wdi14> Bashing-om: yes. Actually, I'm working in a Mac
[02:09] <wdi14> Bashing-om: thanks for your answer. This part of unix systems is very hard for me
[02:10] <Bashing-om> wdi14: "  Actually, I'm working in a Mac " Will be best asked in a Mac channel .
[02:10] <wdi14> Bashing-om: Like now, I'm on my pen drive in the terminal but now I'd like to find a file (.bashrc) as I need to copy a function from there
[02:10] <wdi14> Bashing-om: Please, what's the command to join the Mac channel?
[02:11] <Bashing-om> !alis | wdi14
[02:11] <dars> Menus not appearing in ubuntu
[02:11] <wdi14> !alis | mac
[02:11] <dars> ?
[02:12] <wdi14> Bashing-om: Thanks for your help. I really appreciate it
[02:13] <Bashing-om> wdi14: :)   .. If you install ubuntu .. we can help the more .
[02:13] <rshuler> Hi, is there work around of for 4K monitors and  ubuntu 16?  Scale up worked some, but in some application the fonts and Icons are very small and in most cases not readable.
[02:13] <wdi14> Bashing-om: From the top of your head, do you know the irc channel for bash?
[02:14] <EriC^^> ##bash
[02:14] <EriC^^> ##bash
[02:14] <Bashing-om> wdi14: think it is #bash .. might be ##bash .
[02:14] <dars> Menus on top not appearing in Ubuntu 16.04
[02:14] <dars> Help
[02:14] <wdi14> EriC^^: double hash (#) ?
[02:14] <Bashing-om> wdi14: EriC^^ ^^ ;)
[02:14] <EriC^^> yes
[02:14] <wdi14> Bashing-om: Thanks
[02:14] <wdi14> EriC^^: Thanks
[02:15] <EriC^^> dars: which menus?
[02:15] <EriC^^> wdi14: no problem
[02:15] <dars> Which usually appears on top like file>edit  etc
[02:15] <wdi14> Bashing-om: Let me ask you something different
[02:16] <wdi14> Bashing-om: a
[02:16] <EriC^^> dars: in the top left part of the screen?
[02:16] <wdi14> Bashing-om: What's that new technology Canonical just realeased on the new Ubuntu? Application that run as containers?
[02:16] <Bashing-om> wdi14: K .. 'buntu related ?
[02:17] <dars> EriC^^ : yes exactly
[02:17] <palegreen300> I told off ALL THOSE SICKOS.
[02:17] <cfhowlett> palegreen300, you are in the wrong channel
[02:17] <pauljw> dars, type unity in the terminal
[02:18] <palegreen300> Every last one got the same telling off.
[02:18] <palegreen300> I told them ALL OFF.
[02:18] <wdi14> Bashing-om: Yes
[02:18] <cfhowlett> palegreen300, please play elsewhere.
[02:18] <Bashing-om> wdi14: snap ? other ? see : https://wiki.ubuntu.com/XenialXerus/ReleaseNotes .
[02:18] <Heero151> hello
[02:18] <pauljw> dars, that's happened to me a couple of times in 16.04, open a terminal and type 'unity' it will restart the desktop and the menus will be there. it does for me anyway.
[02:19] <Heero151> anyone here have any idea when I do 'pip freeze' in my virtualenv it  does not show anything.
[02:19] <palegreen300> cfhowlett, If I told them off that's MY prerogative.
[02:20] <dars> pauljw : yes it is only in 16.04 and sometimes they appear and sometime it's gone
[02:20] <cfhowlett> palegreen300, you are disrupting this channel and violating our rules.  knock it off.  and for the record, adding you to /ignore is my perogative. trollBgone now in effect
[02:22] <palegreen300> Can't tell me alcohol is banned on IRC, can you? LOL. I'm high and I'm loving it.
[02:22] <cfhowlett> !ops | palegreen300
[02:23] <tonyyarusso> palegreen300: This channel is for Ubuntu support only.
[02:26] <wdi14> Bashing-om: this is what I'm trying to point http://www.linuxjournal.com/content/more-stable-future-ubuntu Canonical team change the package manager. I'm just curious only that. Snappy seems to be very interesting. The concept of it
[02:28] <tooryasnm> anyone can help me with conky?
[02:29] <erasmus> hi bazhang
[02:30] <palegreen300> tonyyarusso, I said the latest upgrade gave me screen tearing regarding text.
[02:30] <palegreen300> But I never got a proper response.
[02:30] <palegreen300> All was fine with 15.10.
[02:30] <tonyyarusso> Not getting a response doesn't entitle you to go off-topic.
[02:30] <palegreen300> 16.04 LTS gives screen tearing regarding one line of text on every page.
[02:31] <palegreen300> tonyyarusso, If users are having problems with their OS then you can expect them to drink too much.
[02:32] <rhorse> palegreen300: using intel built in graphics?
[02:32] <palegreen300> rhorse, Yes I am.
[02:32] <palegreen300> I'm using the acclaimed 3805U Intel CPU.
[02:33] <palegreen300> It's a great processor but it does have built in graphics.
[02:33] <palegreen300> I'm using the Marcos Window Manager utilizing GPU acceleration.
[02:34] <Bashing-om> wdi14: Right now we are in the throwsus of change , We see how the wind blows . There is that push for 'snap' packaging . In it's invancy at this point .
[02:35] <wdi14> Bashing-om: you're right. Tell me the apt still is supported?
[02:35] <Bashing-om> wdi14: Apt is supported 100 % .
[02:36] <rhorse> palegreen300: I remember reading about this issue with intel i915 driver...
[02:36] <wdi14> Bashing-om: thanks
[02:36] <palegreen300> rhorse, So what do you recommend? I had NO ISSUES with 15.10.
[02:36] <Bashing-om> wdi14: apt too is being re-vitalized ..
[02:37] <wdi14> Bashing-om: What do you mean?
[02:38] <palegreen300> I don't have much time nor patience.
[02:38] <rhorse> palegreen300: do you have any config files in /etc/X11/xorg.conf?
[02:39] <palegreen300> How would I know?
[02:39] <Bashing-om> wdi14: see: https://mvogt.wordpress.com/2014/04/04/apt-1-0/ --- http://www.howtogeek.com/234583/simplify-command-line-package-management-with-apt-instead-of-apt-get/ .
[02:41] <Jordan_U> palegreen300: This is a channel full of volunteers, we are not paid to support you and you are not entitled to free support. Please keep that in mind. Had I been watching the channel when you made your "I've had a bit too much to drink and I"m ready to go down on you tonightg." comment I would have banned you then. Since you *seem* to have gone back to productive support discussion I won't ban you now,
[02:41] <Jordan_U> but you have no further warnings: Keep discussion appropriate, respectful, and productive.
[02:41] <rhorse> palegreen300: do you have a dir there called xorg.conf.d?
[02:41] <wdi14> Bashing-om: Thanks
[02:43] <rhorse> palegreen300: you should have a dir there.
[02:43] <palegreen300> rhorse, I don't even know how to check.
[02:43] <Arkanos-Morph> I am looking for a centralised ssh access management software, any suggestions?
[02:43] <rhorse> palegreen300: do you have a working desktop or just text?
[02:44] <palegreen300> Desktop/
[02:45] <palegreen300> I told you a desktop.
[02:45] <rhorse> palegreen300: On the left side you should have an icon to open up the file browser, or you can just type 'nautilus' in a terminal window.
[02:45] <palegreen300> I typed nautilus
[02:46] <palegreen300> now what?
[02:46] <palegreen300> I don't have much patience.
[02:46] <palegreen300> No XORG dir there.
[02:46] <palegreen300> Running out of patience.
[02:47] <rhorse> palegreen300: it's not hard, it's only hard to explain. :)
[02:48] <rhorse> can you go to the dir called /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d?
[02:49] <Jordan_U> palegreen300: The root directory, literally at the path '/' is called "filesystem" in Nautilus.
[02:50] <rhorse> right
[02:50] <david_> hi
[02:50] <Jordan_U> palegreen300: Actually looks like I'm maybe remembering an older version. In 16.04 it seems to be called "Computer".
[02:52] <palegreen300> Dpm'
[02:52] <david_> i wanted to downgrade my ubuntu 16.04 to 14.04, but i get an error during the installation (now booted from usb to ubuntu14.04), and i can neither access my windows7 nor install ubuntu nor get my flashdrive to boot for another ubuntu version, is there anyone who can help? thank you a lot!
[02:52] <palegreen300> Don't see that, mate.
[02:52] <palegreen300> I'm getting tired.
[02:52] <palegreen300> I just don't have the patience I had when I was younger.
[02:53] <rhorse> OK, good luck!
[02:53] <palegreen300> Guys, I got bored of this.
[02:54] <palegreen300> I'm going away. If I have any more issues I'll be back.
[02:54] <palegreen300> Just don
[02:54] <palegreen300> 't have the patience i used to have.
[02:54] <ramrebol> hi. If I launch paraview (a soft installed via ubuntu soft) form terminal appears the error: /usr/lib/paraview/paraview: symbol lookup error: /usr/lib/libmpi_cxx.so.1: undefined symbol: ompi_mpi_real  . But if I run paraview using the icon (comming with the installation) run without problem. How can I run paraview from terminal?
[02:54] <azizLIGHT> i use teamviewer on ubuntu, and i think its the reason my computer crashes?
[02:54] <azizLIGHT> May 10 22:13:09 fractal kernel: [88603.700274] TVGuiSlave.64[10121]: segfault at 7f3f8835073a ip 00007f3f894b5668 sp 00007ffce38882c0 error 4 in libgcc_s.so.1[7f3f894a6000+16000]
[02:55] <azizLIGHT> May 10 22:13:08 fractal gnome-session[9363]: Gdk-WARNING: gnome-session: Fatal IO error 11 (Resource temporarily unavailable) on X server :0.#012
[02:55] <rhorse> ramrebol: are you running as root from terminal?
[02:55] <ramrebol> or, how can I see what command launch paraview
[02:55] <AliSh> hi
[02:56] <ramrebol> rhorse: is my laptop, so I have the root password. But I'm running from a user account
[02:56] <AliSh> I wanna buy a genius pen tablet with i405 x name.
[02:56] <somsip> AliSh: we dont sell hardware here. What's your real question?
[02:56] <AliSh> is any driver to capable of running that on linux?
[02:57] <ramrebol> rhorse: if I run 'sudo paraview' it run without problem :O
[02:57] <AliSh> yes thats right
[02:57] <somsip> !hardware | AliSh (maybe the first place to look)
[02:57] <AliSh> thank you
[02:57] <AliSh> I am going to read that
[02:58] <david_> Hi, I am booted from usb now, before installing, but when I try to install, the file seems to be broken, is there a way to get my usb drive bootable again? (the standard way through startup disk creator is not working)
[02:58] <ramrebol> rhorse: so the problem is related something of my user. Do you know what happens?
[03:03] <ramrebol> I rewrite my question: if I run paraview (a soft installed from ubuntu soft), '> sudo paraview' runs without problem, but '> paraview' don't run, and appear the message:
[03:03] <ramrebol> /usr/lib/paraview/paraview: symbol lookup error: /usr/lib/libmpi_cxx.so.1: undefined symbol: ompi_mpi_real
[03:03] <ramrebol> what happen?  or how can I fix this?
[03:10] <nis> having some issues with bluetooth ...gets paired but do not connect
[03:13] <nis> anyone know how to fix some bluez issue
[03:14] <Jordan_U> ramrebol: First, you shouldn't ever run graphical applications with sudo; Use gksudo instead and even then, you should only run programs as root if you know that they both A: were designed to safely run as root and B: actually require root privileges for what you're trying to do.
[03:18] <nis> bluetooth connects then disconnects anyone know a fix
[03:20] <ramrebol> thanks Jordan_U . I never run this types of problems with sudo. I just tried it in order to understand what happened. Of course, if I need 'sudo' is because this program need some root privilege, but it should not be (it is just a plot program). For that reason I want to know why I can't run this program without root privileges and I need to know how fix this.
[03:29] <nis> bluetooth connects then disconnects anyone have some ideas?
[03:31] <Heero151> f
[03:32] <Heero151> I installed ubuntu yesterday. Why do I not have a .bashrc_profile
[03:32] <Heero151> I mean .bash_profile
[03:33] <ramrebol> Heero151: you can created it ;)
[03:33] <ramrebol> and added a line in bashrc, of course
[03:34] <caf4926> what file system is used by default in 16.04?
[03:34] <ramrebol> caf4926: ext4
[03:34] <caf4926> ramrebol: thanks
[03:36] <ramrebol> caf4926: sorry, I'm not sure
[03:36] <caf4926> ramrebol: right, you are not using it then?
[03:37] <ramrebol> just now I read that ZFS is the filesystem by default
[03:37] <ramrebol> I installed ubuntu 16.04 using ext4
[03:37] <ramrebol> as I do usually
[03:37] <caf4926> ramrebol: yes I thought I saw that somewhere too
[03:37] <jeeves_moss> is there a way to "seed" apt-mirror from the install CD so I don't have to pull down 110Gb?
[03:38] <Jordan_U> ramrebol: zfs.ko is shipped with the kernel by default, but the installer still uses ext4 by default.
[03:38] <caf4926> ah
[03:39] <caf4926> *some indecision then
[03:39] <ramrebol> Jordan_U: thanks for appear. Do you know something about my question?
[03:40] <Heero151> okay is .profile the same thing as .bash_profile?
[03:41] <ramrebol> in practice yes, but I do not know if there is some subtlety
[03:42] <Jordan_U> Heero151: From "man bash": When bash is invoked as an interactive login shell, or as a  non-inter‐ active  shell with the --login option, it first reads and executes com‐ mands from the file /etc/profile, if that file exists.   After  reading that file, it looks for ~/.bash_profile, ~/.bash_login, and ~/.profile, in that order, and reads and executes commands from the first one  that exists  and  is
[03:42] <Jordan_U> readable.  The --noprofile option may be used when the shell is started to inhibit this behavior.
[03:44] <Jordan_U> Heero151: Other sh shells also read from ~/.profile . Note that only the first found is read and executed, so if you have ~/.profile and ~/.bash_profile then *bash* will only execute ~/.bash_profile , but if you're logging into a graphical environment I don't know what file is read.
[03:44] <ramrebol> Jordan_U: Heero151: My 'dirty' solution is add 'source .bash_profile' into .bashrc . It works.
[03:45] <Jordan_U> ramrebol: Then there's something in .bash_profile that needs to be run to properly setup the environment. Have you looked at .bash_profile to see what that might be?
[03:46] <nchambers> Jordan_U, usually .xprofile. irrelevant since typically in a graphical shell its not starting a command shell
[03:47] <nchambers> also you can just [[ -f "~/.bashrc" ]] && . ~/.bashrc
[03:50] <ramrebol> Jordan_U: :O  it is the first time that my .bashrc (or .bash_profile) have problem. I only have 3 lines in my .bash_profile, but I don't use .profile (y just added source ~/.bash_profile into .bashrc) Do you think that here could be my problem?
[03:55] <nitish> How can I check "About This Computer" from terminal?
[03:56] <ramrebol> nitish: find what do you want to know in google :P
[03:57] <ramrebol> nitish: what do you want to know specifically?
[03:58] <nitish> ramrebol: to check ubuntu versin, RAM, memory etc.
[04:01] <Guest85521> I have a quick question; I added my wifi driver to the kernel, but on startup, it doesnt run. If I do "sudo service network-manager restart", it appears as normal. What do I need to do to get it to start with PC?
[04:01] <ramrebol> nitish: it is a easy search in google: "my ubuntu version, terminal" A: "> lsb_release -d"   The other questions, I suppose, that are as easy to find in google.
[04:02] <cholby> I like the taste of my own shit on my Dad's cock
[04:02] <Hulio> anyone know where i can find out to setup shoutcast in ubuntu?
[04:02] <Hulio> i would like to setup live stream
[04:03] <somsip> Hulio: plenty of tutorials out there, eg: https://www.vultr.com/docs/how-to-setup-a-shoutcast-server-on-ubuntu
[04:04] <Guest85521> I have a quick question; I added my wifi driver to the kernel, but on startup, it doesnt run. If I do "sudo service network-manager restart", it appears as normal. What do I need to do to get it to start with PC?
[04:05] <Hulio> how to enter su mode?
[04:05] <Hulio> adduser: Only root may add a user or group to the system.
[04:05] <Guest85521> Hulio: type sudo
[04:06] <Hulio> but why people show instruction without  sudo?
[04:06] <Guest85521> before the command
[04:06] <Hulio> i read the instruction :   they just start the command without sudo...how so?
[04:06] <FManTropyx> log in as root
[04:07] <Hulio> sudo su?
[04:07] <Hulio> is that what they do?
[04:07] <FManTropyx> either log in as root or su into root
[04:07] <Jordan_U> Hulio: It is strongly recommended to simply use sudo before any command that needs it.
[04:07] <Hulio> i see
[04:07] <Hulio> okay i do that thanks Jordan_U
[04:07] <Jordan_U> FManTropyx: Logging in as root is disable by default in Ubuntu, and we do not support enabling it.
[04:08] <Guest85521> Last try. I have a quick question; I added my wifi driver to the kernel, but on startup, it doesnt run. If I do "sudo service network-manager restart", it appears as normal. What do I need to do to get it to start with PC?
[04:10] <FManTropyx> when has that been implemented? I suppose it only applies to the non-server version?
[04:11] <Jordan_U> FManTropyx: Since the first version of Ubuntu IIRC, and for all flavors. No root password is set by default.
[04:11] <orlock> sudo all the things!
[04:12] <FManTropyx> well, I run 14.04 on a VPS and it allows root login
[04:12] <nacc> FManTropyx: do you mean over ssh?
[04:13] <orlock> FManTropyx: It just means a root password was set
[04:13] <Jordan_U> FManTropyx: Then you or your VPS vendor set a root password, which I would not recommend and which we do not support.
[04:13] <orlock> FManTropyx: Its not the default, and its not advisable from a security perspective
[04:14] <FManTropyx> yes, the provider probably made it so, but I am not freaking out over security concerns :)
[04:16] <ramrebol> How can I know which command use ubuntu to launch some program (when I push 'windows' button, write the name of program and push enter) ?
[04:18] <lotuspsychje> good morning to all
[04:20] <ramrebol> in gnome, I use left button over the icon of some aplication, and in its properties appear the command to run it. How can I know which command use ubuntu to launch some program?
[04:20] <ramrebol> good mourning lotuspsychje
[04:21] <Jordan_U> ramrebol: Look at the .desktop file associated with that application in /usr/share/applications/ .
[04:27] <ramrebol> Jordan_U: thanks. Appear 'Exec=paraview', without other arguments,  so I think that that command use to run paraview :(   but if I try to run 'paraview' from terminal I have the problem that I mencioned above :(
[04:28] <Jordan_U> ramrebol: Do you not have that problem when it is executed from the launcher?
[04:29] <ramrebol> Jordan_U: no, that why I don't know what happen
[04:29] <Jordan_U> ramrebol: Please pastebin the complete .desktop file. It likely sets some environment variables.
[04:29] <ramrebol> (and I want to run the command from teminal, because it is more confortable)
[04:30] <ramrebol> Jordan_U: thanks !!  http://pastebin.com/wCzKp1Dg
[04:31] <ramrebol> I always use paraview, and it is the firts time (or the first ubuntu version) where I have this problem.
[04:33] <Jordan_U> ramrebol: What is the output of "type paraview"?
[04:34] <shinigami> nick kira
[04:38] <ramrebol> Jordan_U: paraview is hashed (/usr/bin/paraview)
[04:49] <ayushshah> Hello, I may have been facing a problem. I copy some content from libre office write , close it and then try to copy it in text editor(gedit) it doenst copy. But when the libre office is open and then I try to past, then the contents are pasted!
[04:49] <ponychat> fuyu /server irc.ponychat.net #h4x0r.icj or #astaraos , just press p in latest hextchat when you search server ... .
[04:55] <Jordan_U> ramrebol: I'm not sure what's going on.
[04:56] <ramrebol> thanks Jordan_U for your time. I will still investigate about it
[04:58] <ramrebol> ayushshah: I always have the same 'problem' in this version and earlier versions of libre/open office and ubuntu. I don't know why happen
[04:59] <ayushshah> ramrebol: if it's a big
[04:59] <ayushshah> Can we not solve it ?
[05:00] <ramrebol> ayushshah: I almost never use libre or open office, so I never had found a solution. Look: some report on ubuntu 14 https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libreoffice/+bug/1578872
[05:01] <h3o> Are you use to pdf?
[05:02] <ayushshah> ramrebol: do you know any development channel irc where I could talk about this issue ?
[05:04] <ayushshah> or should I even talk to libre office development channel?
[05:04] <ramrebol> ayushshah: I don't know :(
[05:05] <xangua> ramrebol: ayushshah use a clipboard manager
[05:05] <xangua> If you use unity you can try diodon
[05:07] <ayushshah> xangua: okay thanks
[05:34] <ankitkulkarni> can any one help me with this question - http://askubuntu.com/questions/770601/could-not-add-sta-to-kernel-driver-hostapd-not-able-to-connect-more-then-10 . I am getting "could not add sta to kernel driver" for kernel version 4.2.0.27 when i connect more then 10 clients to hotspot in AP mode  for the wireless card is intel 3165 and with hostapd v2.1
[06:05] <orlock> Ubuntu still has live CD's, yes?
[06:05] <orlock> Is there away i can netboot one?
[06:05] <orlock> let me rephrase that - i cant seem to find a simple guide on how to netboot a live cd
[06:05] <xangua> !netboot
[06:06] <orlock> i dont want to install it
[06:06] <orlock> i'll just use the drac and a local image as a virtual cd
[06:09] <dannymichel> The ubuntu smash seems to fit my 1920x1080 screen when booting from the usb live disk, but pixilated and small when booting normally into ubuntu. any ideas?
[06:12] <Thinker_> Need help related grub. I have dual boot system, both ubuntu (one new and one old). So my default grub is of new ubuntu. I messed it up while playing with settings, so it no more shows entry of new OS. Although it shows old OS fine and working. I want new OS entry back. I have tried to reinstall grub using live CD but it does not come back. So what could I do now?
[06:27] <DavidFromBE> how do i configure the network interface using the command line in ubuntu 15.10 ? is /etc/network/interface still the way to go ?
[06:29] <hateball> DavidFromBE: you can use nmcli
[06:31] <wyoung> DavidFromBE: depends if you are using ubuntu server or desktop and if you have installed network manager or not
[06:31] <wyoung> DavidFromBE: 16.04 LTS is out now
[06:31] <DavidFromBE> i don't want to upgrade
[06:31] <DavidFromBE> amd gpus
[06:31] <DavidFromBE> i know there are some issues with drivers
[06:32] <wyoung> ah
[06:32] <wyoung> You should of researched your hardware a bit better.  NVIDIA all the way
[06:32] <hateball> DavidFromBE: What issues? If you mean Steam startup, there are workarounds
[06:33] <wyoung> AMD / ATI have always had terrible drivers, even in windows, compared with NVIDIA
[06:33] <DavidFromBE> hateball: i'm looking to it, but isn't there any config file somewhere ? i just want to change the gw and possibly dns servers
[06:33] <hateball> DavidFromBE: anyway there is no harm in waiting as long as you are aware that 15.10 will go EOL in not-long
[06:34] <hateball> DavidFromBE: Sure, you can edit configs directly. Just figured if it's a desktop you're using nm on, it'd be less messy with just using nmcli
[06:35] <DavidFromBE> it is a desktop, but it is headless
[06:35] <DavidFromBE> where are the config files located
[06:35] <DavidFromBE> ?
[06:38] <DavidFromBE> ah found them : /etc/NetworkManager/system-connections
[06:39] <wyoung> I dislike network manager
[06:44] <greybonez> did my message work
[06:46] <anonymous_> hello
[07:05] <pmaxk> hi to all
[07:05] <placydo> Hi, I have Radeon 7730 and I keep getting "The system is running in low-graphic mode"
[07:14] <TestIrchatNICK> hello
[07:16] <mrasker> hello.
[07:16] <radicate> How hard are you guys trying to make it to have a basic desktop setup with two monitors?
[07:17] <TvL2386> hi guys, I'm creating servers with a kickstart file that I've put on a floppy... I boot the installer with "initrd=/install/initrd.gz vga=788 ks=floppy". I would now like to include this ks.cfg file on the 14.04 iso/cdrom that I use to install. I'm using ISO Master to generate the iso, but I'm failing to see what I would type at the kernel boot params... I'm trying "initrd=/install/initrd.gz vga=788 ks=cdrom" but it fails
[07:17] <mrasker> is it recomendable to use a /boot partition in an ssd? Or can i forget about it? I'm new to the ssd world...
[07:17] <ck_mfc> Hi, I used tar to archive some files (192G). The output of the tar archive is 167G big. I did not use any compression option.  Did something go wrong? Or does tar reduces space usage when used on large number of files?
[07:17] <TvL2386> mrasker, it's all the same whether you're using a hdd or ssd
[07:18] <mrasker> thanks TvL2386 , so i'll forget about /boot
[07:18] <radicate> TvL2386: If we're already in the SSD/HDD talk, have you heard anything about btrfs not working well on SSDs?
[07:18] <TvL2386> mrasker, I normally create a /boot partition only if it's necessary, like when you're using raid or lvm
[07:19] <TvL2386> mrasker, on my laptop I have one big partition sda1 mounted on / that is ext4... that's it
[07:19] <TvL2386> radicate, I don't know anything about that or btrfs...
[07:20] <TvL2386> radicate, I don't really see why btrfs would have (more) issues with SSD's
[07:20] <mrasker> i use / and /home and it works fine for me. Thank you
[07:20] <fullmonty> Im having ethernet issues with 16.04, I tried booting into a live session from my 16.04 DVD and internet worked just fine there.
[07:20] <radicate> TvL2386: Same, I've been told that a couple of times by my colleagues and I just thought to myself whatever.. but thought I'd still ask if we're talking about it here
[07:21] <ryo> I have download Ubuntu desktop iOS file ,and write In my usb pen drive . When I boot Laptop it's given option "install Ubuntu " but wher is going to install? Did this will destroy my windows?
[07:21] <radicate> Any human being here alive that actually succeeded installing GeForce drivers on an Ubuntu machine?
[07:21] <TvL2386> radicate, only issue I ever had with btrfs was years ago when I was playing with docker.... It creates so many files that the metadata was full on my btrfs partition..... Since it was all new to me I had a hard time recovering from that
[07:22] <radicate> TvL2386: Gotcha
[07:22] <lyze_phone> radicate just use the nvidia drivers from the "additional drivers" menu
[07:22] <radicate> lyze_phone: Where would the menu be?
[07:22] <lyze_phone> radicate in the settings menu c:
[07:23] <mrasker> I'll reinstall 16.04 again. I'm going crazy to mak it work. I'm still not able to make sound work... well, tet's see with this reinstall
[07:23] <radicate> lyze_phone: I'll give it a go, what about this problem though: i have two monitors, one displays the GUI, the other displays a black screen with a white cursor on the top left corner
[07:24] <lyze_phone> radicate have you actually configured the second monitor in the normal "display settinfs menu"?
[07:24] <radicate> It doesn't appear in the settings for some reasons I'd love to know about
[07:24] <radicate> I only see one display in there
[07:25] <TvL2386> so anybody know how to access the kickstart file that you put on the installation iso?
[07:25] <lyze_phone> hmmm ... well ... we'll see if it works with the normal nividia drivers c:
[07:25] <radicate> It's funny because other distros based on Ubuntu actually had both screens working
[07:25] <radicate> And Ubuntu itself won't
[07:25] <lyze_phone> wow ... x)
[07:26] <fullmonty> how can ethernet work on the live DVD of 16.04, but be broken on my harddrive install?
[07:26] <Jordan_U> ryo: You will be prompted for where to install once the LiveUSB is actually booted.
[07:26] <radicate> Ugh I wish they fixed those issues
[07:27] <TvL2386> got it!
[07:28] <ryo> Jordan_U: ok ,thanks .i will try
[07:28] <Jordan_U> ryo: You're welcome.
[07:28] <radicate> Anyone knows when Unity 8 goes out?
[07:29] <lyze_phone> probably in 16.10?
[07:29] <radicate> And date wise?
[07:29] <radicate> Or it's also the date!
[07:29] <radicate> What do I know about their versions
[07:32] <radicate> What a failure I experienced with an idea I had
[07:32] <radicate> I bought this Sata to USB cable thing
[07:33] <radicate> Connected it to an SSD and installed Ubuntu on it, for a.. portable workspace thing
[07:33] <radicate> Not only is it slow as heck, Ubuntu won't even boot properly from it
[07:33] <lyze_phone> x)
[07:33] <radicate> The computer doesn't detect it on cold boot either
[07:34] <radicate> Meh
[07:34] <radicate> Well, I have an ssd to give as a present to my brother at least!
[07:35] <lyze_phone> i bought a pretty small n fast usb 3.0 and installed xubuntu on there ... works pretty fine c:
[07:35] <radicate> Is it an SSD?
[07:35] <radicate> Or just an external HDD
[07:35] <radicate> I mean I have an external HDD and I installed elementary OS on it, works okay, slow though
[07:35] <ak5> is the letsencrypt package in xenial documented somewhere?
[07:35] <lyze> Nah just a usb stick
[07:36] <radicate> Oh gotcha
[07:36] <radicate> Wanted something faster than that.. as I work on it all day from my office and home
[07:37] <gtkm90> hello
[07:38] <gtkm90> i am a new ubuntu
[07:38] <lyze> hey
[07:38] <gtkm90> my ubuntu is vesion 16.04
[07:38] <radicate> Lol welcome
[07:38] <gtkm90> after istall my computer very hot
[07:39] <radicate> Specifically after installing Ubuntu? it wasn't as hot on other operating systems?
[07:39] <gtkm90> yes
[07:40] <radicate> Don't know, sounds odd
[07:40] <radicate> Have a look a the temps in the BIOS without booting to Ubuntu
[07:40] <lyze> Are the fans on?
[07:41] <gtkm90> my chip AMD 64, RAM 3GB, HDD: 250GB
[07:41] <gtkm90> yes the fan on
[07:41] <Jordan_U> radicate: For UEFI installations on removable media, make sure you use "sudo grub-install --removable --target=x86_64-efi". Also, if you're going to be using it on multiple machines, you'll proably want to disable the automatic invocation of grub-install on upgrades, which will leave UEFI entries on whatever machine you happen to be using when you install the update.
[07:42] <radicate> Jordan_U: Oh thanks for the informative reply
[07:42] <Jordan_U> radicate: You're welcome.
[07:42] <gtkm90> my computer installing only ubuntu System
[07:43] <radicate> Jordan_U: Sorry for the noobie question, but where do I run the installation command you provided? I usually boot the installation and install with the UI
[07:46] <fullmonty> I figured out what was causing ethernet to fail on 16.04: a conflict between the GUI program for network configuration and /etc/network/interfaces
[07:46] <fullmonty> I reset the contents of /etc/network/interfaces to be just the 2 lines: auto lo && iface lo inet loopback
[07:46] <fullmonty> now it works
[07:47] <Jordan_U> radicate: Unless you do something to prevent it from doing so, Ubuntu's installer will run grub-install without --removable which should make the new installation bootable on the machine you installed from (since it adds an entry to NVRAM in the motherboard), at which point you can then boot into the newly installed system, optionally use efibootmgr to remove the entry that was created, and run "sudo
[07:47] <Jordan_U> grub-install --removable --target=x86_64-efi" to have grub-install claim /boot/efi/EFI/BOOT/BOOTX64.efi which is the path where the boot firmware will look on a drive when no UEFI boot entry is available. Only one OS can have a file at this path, and so Ubuntu/grub don't write there by default for interoperability's sake.
[07:49] <radicate> Jordan_U: Oh alright
[07:49] <AciD`> is there only golden color for the ubuntu phone (meizu pro 5)?
[07:50] <denil> i have a dongle equipped with built in wifi and when i plug into the lap right port it doesnt show wifi but when i plug into my left port it shows is there a fix
[07:51] <Donitzo> god, ubuntu too?
[07:51] <denil> i m on ubuntu
[07:51] <Donitzo> Why does it have to be so effin hard to get debian/ubuntu to work with motherboard-based RAID
[07:52] <denil> hot spot doesnt show up when i plug in my dongle in lappy's right port but shows when its on left
[07:53] <denil> but in windows it works fine
[07:53] <denil> but in ubuntu this error happens
[08:01] <OlofL> How do I set static IP with ip command?
[08:02] <gtkm90> why my pc ís very hot ?
[08:02] <mrabhi_> hi guys!
[08:03] <mrabhi_>  I am using kubuntu.
[08:03] <radicate> gtkm90: Something must be wrong with your computer cooling
[08:03] <radicate> gtkm90: Might require you to replace a fan, even if it seems to be working
[08:03] <mrabhi_> Whenever I connect an android with usb debugging on. My computer freezes
[08:04] <mrabhi_> Can't move mouse. Caps lock not working. No ctrl+alt combinations work
[08:04] <mrabhi_> gpu-ivybridge
[08:04] <mrabhi_> any suggestions?
[08:04] <tman_> try checking the plug?
[08:05] <gtkm90> with cpu: AMD Turion X2, ATI graphic card, RAM 3GB. what the destroy i can install in my pc ?
[08:07] <mrabhi_> hmm..
[08:10] <ak5> thanks @ release team, 16.04 LTS server is phenomenal
[08:11] <ak5> php7 and nginx 1.10? My life has changed
[08:11] <ak5> no more weird repos :D
[08:13] <MoonBurst> In the review videos, the software center looks different from the one I have. 16.04. Is there a second software center I don't know about?
[08:16] <boxmein> hlep http://hastebin.com/risadiheni.md http://hastebin.com/ivesiyafog.sm
[08:16] <boxmein> system froze after that, magic alt-sysrq worked tho
[08:16] <de-facto> MoonBurst yes its gnome-software now, but you always can use synaptics/gdebi instead ;)
[08:17] <Pray3r> My computer(Alienware 15 r2) doesn't connect a Nexus 5x device on Ubuntu 16.04, use USB Type-C. It just work on boot or reboot the system. Have any suggest?
[08:18] <wyoung> Pray3r: nexus 5x is a phone?
[08:18] <MoonBurst> I might need to. Also, something that I'm trying to piece together a bit. I'm new and really trying to drop windows. It feels really... spaceship compared to Windows
[08:19] <MoonBurst> How do I know when to sudo install, and when to just install?
[08:20] <lyze> MoonBurst, you can't install packages as non sudo
[08:20] <lyze> * root user
[08:20] <MoonBurst> Ahh, so basically anything that would req me to be an admin on windows demands root access here?
[08:21] <de-facto> boxmein check your hdd for hardware errors?
[08:22] <lyze> MoonBurst, yeah. Win admin = root user under linux. "sudo" just runs a command with root privileges
[08:23] <lyze> Or a different user if you use the "-u" flag
[08:23] <Pray3r> wyoung: yes
[08:24] <de-facto> Pray3r what doe you mean by "does not connect"?
[08:28] <Pray3r> de-facto: Sorry, It's mean "the device does not mount in my computer".
[08:28] <ozberk> I finally can use ubuntu without a problem... Ofc there WILL be problems but everything is fine for now
[08:31] <MoonBurst> I think I really like the synaptic package manager. Simply because it seems easier to install and set up than windows always had been.
[08:33] <TvL2386> how do kickstart and preseed interact?
[08:35] <ttal> does ubuntu have wine installed by default? or any distro?
[08:35] <hans_> No you have to install it you self
[08:36] <ttal> thanks hans
[08:36] <MoonBurst> it should be super easy to install though. I'm fairly sure it's in the software center. So you just type in wine and click install
[08:36] <ttal> MoonBurst, yeah I know how to install it, I want it on a live distro to use on a vm without installing wine, but to open windows exe's
[08:37] <MoonBurst> Ahh
[08:39] <Donitzo> does the alternative install cd even exist anymore?
[08:39] <Donitzo> I see references pointing me to a page where no such thing is found
[08:39] <gnumonk> Hi
[08:40] <gnumonk> how to get variable output in grub.cfg , I wanted to get grub shell command "ls" output in variable.
[08:40] <de-facto> Pray3r you must put the device in MTP mode to be able to mount it with nautilus
[08:41] <hateball> ttal: you can still grab it on live-cd, provided you have an internet connection. or remaster your own distro
[08:41] <hateball> !remaster
[08:41] <hateball> Donitzo: I think minimal is used these days
[08:41] <hateball> !minimal
[08:41] <MoonBurst> I tried to install steam, but when I open it the icon just flashes a few times before closing. No window opens or anything. Is that it still trying to install? Or did I do something wrong?
[08:42] <Donitzo> hateball, so can I use the regular desktop install image to install ubuntu with software RAID 5?
[08:42] <Donitzo> or do I need to use the minimal install
[08:42] <ryo> https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/iB2ypFLV/1462956139.JPG
[08:42] <hateball> MoonBurst: Open a !terminal and run "steam", it should spit out some info you can pastebin and link here. Usually it comes down to missing GPU drivers
[08:43] <hateball> Donitzo: Hmmm, that I don't know. Havent done a clean install in ages, and I only use LVM outside of standard setups
[08:43] <ryo> It looks try to install my local hardisk only .there is no option for sub live
[08:43] <Donitzo> blast
[08:43] <MoonBurst> Yeah, looks like it is missing a few things.
[08:43] <Donitzo> the instructions are a bit iffy
[08:44] <MoonBurst> http://pastebin.com/qugc0yEm
[08:44] <Donitzo> some say you need a boot partition which isn't RAID 5
[08:44] <Donitzo> some say you don't need one
[08:44] <hateball> MoonBurst: ah, so you have an AMD gpu?
[08:44] <MoonBurst> That I do.
[08:45] <hateball> MoonBurst: gimme a sec
[08:46] <MoonBurst> alright. And thank you :3
[08:46] <Zerpex> Yo guys - I'm having an ubuntu 14.04 machine where I have a bond.. I'm adding IPv6 to the bond itself - but during reboots the ipv6 address is never added - if I do a manual ifconfig adding the address it works perfectly.. Any clues?
[08:48] <hateball> MoonBurst: can you try pasting/running this in a terminal: LD_PRELOAD='/usr/$LIB/libstdc++.so.6' DISPLAY=:0 steam
[08:48] <Pray3r> de-facto: I already put the device in MTP mode. But can't auto-mount or mount. :(
[08:49] <MoonBurst> That looks like it's doing something now. A steam window opened and says it's updating.
[08:49] <hateball> MoonBurst: there's a problem with the steam client and the newer amdgpu driver. so you'll need to launch it that way
[08:49] <Evil> h1
[08:50] <hateball> MoonBurst: you can of course edit whatever gui-launcher you have to use that command
[08:50] <hateball> until valve fixes their stuff at least
[08:50] <MoonBurst> Wait, so I need to open it via terminal? Or via that command you posted?
[08:50] <wyoung> hi gang
[08:51] <hateball> !who | MoonBurst
[08:51] <hateball> MoonBurst: that exact command
[08:51] <hateball> I don't use Unity so I don't know how you'd go about changing a launcher, but I am sure someone else does
[08:52] <de-facto> Pray3r why? what does happen/does not happen?
[08:52] <MoonBurst> Hateball: Alright, sorry.
[08:52] <hateball> MoonBurst: anyhow, does it appear to start?
[08:52] <MoonBurst> Yeah, it looks like it is. I'll be having to save that command somewhere though for future use.
[08:53] <cherryschnaps> MoonBurst: as already told you could just simply edit the steam launcher so it automatically launches with said command. So you dont have to open is via terminal.
[08:54] <hateball> Perhaps it is as easy as rightclicking the launcher to be able to edit it
[08:55] <de-facto> Pray3r when you connect Nexus5x via usb, you can watch what the kernel sees in dmesg, it should show up in nautilus left panel (where you can find your hdds and bookmarks), clicking on it should mount it and you shoudl have access to internal storage then
[08:58] <viranch> hi, I want to install Ubuntu on a new laptop without a disc or a USB flash drive (I don't have either) - what are my options?
[08:58] <viranch> there is a wifi router with internet access at my place, and I have another macbook
[08:59] <hateball> viranch: pxe, but you need ethernet for that
[08:59] <Pray3r> de-facto: Everything does not happen. No log about it in dmesg. Nautilus left panel does not have, too.
[08:59] <hateball> viranch: or install to the hdd in a different machine and move it back
[08:59] <viranch> hateball: I can connect the laptop to the router over wired LAN
[09:00] <viranch> as I understand from https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/Netboot, I need to run some tftp and xinetd servers
[09:00] <viranch> can I run those on a mac?
[09:00] <hateball> no idea, it's unix, so probably
[09:01] <hateball> viranch: but yeah, that's the guide to follow
[09:01] <viranch> cool thanks
[09:01] <de-facto> Pray3r hmm thats weird indeed, at least the kernel should see something when you connect it. has it ever worked? tried other usb ports?
[09:01] <de-facto> cables?
[09:02] <sajanek> hello all
[09:02] <sajanek> I have a question about mod_rewrite, I hope I can ask here
[09:03] <sajanek> hello, I have a question about mod_rewrite and the issue, that I'm not able to resolve. I would like to make a very simple configuration on my server: all connections should be https, except one particural request - folder free. All request should be also pushed through index.php file. I created a htaccess file: http://pastebin.com/QswPd6f0 that is doing a job partial. Now it works like it should, except
[09:03] <sajanek> redirect everything from http to https if is different then https. If I uncoment the commented lines with redirect, I'm not able to get any access to /free/, instead I get redirect over https to index.php file. Any ideas? I checked a tons of options, I read all related openstack questions and it do not want to work :/
[09:04] <de-facto> Pray3r you can see live updates in dmesg via "dmesg -wH" from a terminal, connect it then and watch for any messages appearing there at the same time
[09:05] <sajanek> *redirect everything from http to https if is different then /free/ - my mistake
[09:06] <Pray3r> de-facto: uh... It USB Type-C port. Just has one. I can't try other usb ports.
[09:06] <Pray3r> de-facto: I see. But nothing.
[09:06] <de-facto> Pray3r i mean on your computer
[09:07] <de-facto> Pray3r does that usb port on your computer work for other devices (e.g. usb stick)?
[09:09] <Pray3r> de-facto: USB 3.0/2.0 ports, it ok. USB Type-C does not work.
[09:10] <de-facto> Pray3r are you absolutely sure its in MTP mode? when you connected it pull down and tap on that notification, switch from charging to mtp mode...
[09:14] <Pray3r> de-facto: Yeah, I'm sure.
[09:16] <lotuspsychje> Pray3r: wich ubuntu version are you on?
[09:16] <wyoung> lotuspsychje: I reckon 16.04
[09:16] <Pray3r> lotuspsychje: ubuntu 16.04 lts
[09:17] <n3wbie> Can anyone help me with hosting?
[09:17] <lotuspsychje> Pray3r: and wich phone device?
[09:17] <n3wbie> I want to host a site in my vps, ubuntu?
[09:17] <de-facto> n3wbie #ubuntu-server
[09:17] <gtkm90> hello
[09:18] <KlausedSource> hey, I have trouble getting network time to work on my server. I followed https://help.ubuntu.com/lts/serverguide/NTP.html
[09:18] <gtkm90> i want to install flashplayer in my ubuntu, what i to do ?
[09:18] <KlausedSource> the problem is (thats why I was looking into it in the first place) that the time is about 6 minutes in the past
[09:18] <lotuspsychje> gtkm90: try chromium-browser with pepperflash
[09:18] <wyoung> gtkm90: send emails to websites that still use flashplayer and inform them of HTML5
[09:18] <KlausedSource> output of "date": Mi 11. Mai 11:11:35 CEST 2016
[09:19] <lotuspsychje> !ntp | KlausedSource
[09:19] <Pray3r> lotuspsychje: Yeah, it's Nexus 5x.
[09:19] <wyoung> gtkm90: You may need to remind them that this is the 21st centurary
[09:19] <lotuspsychje> Pray3r: android or ubuntu-touch?
[09:19] <KlausedSource> lotuspsychje, I just followed that guide (see above)
[09:19] <KlausedSource> lotuspsychje, still having those problems
[09:19] <de-facto> Pray3r i do not really understand why it wont work for you, you say the usb port on your computer works right? and i can confirm that 16.04 gnome edition works fine for a nexus 4 on cm13 (without any mods on ubunut for it). at least it should show up in dmesg somehow. Have you had it show up with that cable on other computers?
[09:20] <Pray3r> lotuspsychje: android 6.0.1, last updated
[09:20] <lotuspsychje> Pray3r: have you enabled developer mode in your setings?
[09:20] <mrasker> hello, is zeitgest neccessary? i'm deleting processes to speed up my laptop
[09:21] <lotuspsychje> mrasker: try other things to speed up boot
[09:21] <lotuspsychje> mrasker: install preload, disabled other unwated services
[09:21] <wyoung> gtkm90: did that help?
[09:22] <lotuspsychje> mrasker: clean up pc with bleachbit, boot in textmode,install an ssd
[09:22] <mrasker> ok. but what is it used for?
[09:22] <lotuspsychje> mrasker: to keep history of files and such
[09:23] <gtkm90> the media website, my ubuntu cannot play media, because my ubuntu haven't plugin
[09:23] <lotuspsychje> mrasker: you can purge it, but not really recommended
[09:23] <de-facto> mrasker try "systemd-analyze plot > /tmp/boot.svg" and watch that with "xdg-open /tmp/boot.svg"
[09:23] <Pray3r> de-facto: uh... other computer does not have USB Type-C port, so I am not test.
[09:23] <EriC^^> gtkm90: sudo add-apt-repository multiverse
[09:24] <Pray3r> lotuspsychje: of course
[09:24] <EriC^^> gtkm90: sudo apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras
[09:24] <ubuntu226> Master ,  i want install ubuntu on usb driver .  after boot its prompt install ubuntu
[09:24] <EriC^^> gtkm90: sudo apt-get update ( in the middle of those commands )
[09:24] <Pray3r> de-facto: anyway, thx.
[09:24] <ubuntu226> but its going to destory my windows OS
[09:24] <lotuspsychje> Pray3r: pastebin tail -f /var/log/syslog after pluggin your phone please?
[09:24] <gtkm90> 'multiverse' distribution component is already enabled for all sources.
[09:24] <EriC^^> gtkm90: ok, sudo apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras
[09:24] <ubuntu226> there is no option for install to USB ?
[09:25] <EriC^^> ubuntu226: you want to install ubuntu to a usb?
[09:25] <lotuspsychje> !usb | ubuntu226
[09:25] <wyoung> ubottu: that is awesome news!
[09:25] <Pray3r> lotuspsychje: no new log...:(
 yes master
[09:26] <lotuspsychje> Pray3r: plugout/plugin few times?
[09:26] <lotuspsychje> Pray3r: your phone is also unlocked at start screen?
[09:26] <gtkm90> ubuntu-restricted-extras is already the newest version (65).
[09:27] <mrasker> thanks
[09:27] <Yxa> hi is there a apt source that I can get and install the latest samba 4.4.3?
[09:27] <lotuspsychje> !latest | Yxa
[09:27] <Pray3r> lotuspsychje: yeah, a few times
[09:27] <lotuspsychje> Pray3r: showing nothing?
[09:27] <subhojit777> I want to use https://github.com/joonty/vdebug. This Vim plugin requires Python. I have installed Vim with python support. However when I install vim-gnome it installs Vim with Python3 support, and removes the Python support. How can I install gnome vim without Python3 support, and only Python support
[09:27] <EriC^^> gtkm90: which media can't you play?
[09:27] <EriC^^> gtkm90: try to install vlc as well
[09:28] <Pray3r> lotuspsychje: no,  normal work
[09:28] <wyoung> subhojit777: python <3
[09:28] <Pray3r> lotuspsychje: yes
  thanks for url  ,i think  am confuse from begin,   install ubunt from usb and live usb is different things
[09:28] <wyoung> subhojit777: just use pycharms from idea
[09:28] <Yxa> if I insist? :)
[09:28] <wyoung> subhojit777: I recommend it
[09:28] <cfhowlett> Yxa, then your best option is install from source
[09:29] <Yxa> cfhowlett sorta trying to avoid that
[09:29] <lotuspsychje> ubuntu226: read the second part, installing persistent
[09:29] <EriC^^> ubuntu226: do you have 2 usb's ?
[09:29] <gtkm90> thanks
[09:29] <gtkm90> i can play now
[09:29] <ubuntu226>  <EriC^^>  no i have only one ,  i download  ubutn 16 desktop and write in it
[09:29] <EriC^^> gtkm90: ok, no problem
[09:29] <subhojit777> wyoung, I want to use Vim. I am not coding in Python, I am coding in PHP. It's just that plugin which requires python and not python3
   thanks i will try
[09:30] <gtkm90> what i to do, when i install the dowload manager
[09:30] <wyoung> subhojit777: :\ why even admit you code in PHP for?
[09:31] <subhojit777> wyoung, sorry didn't get you
[09:31] <wyoung> subhojit777: I meant to say, have you tried webstorm?
[09:31] <EriC^^> ubuntu226: you can make a persistent live usb, the data after shutting down will stay there, but it's not a true install as usual, you can't update the kernel and stuff, if you want a true install to a usb then you need 2 usb one to boot the installer with and the 2nd to install ubuntu to it, or you can use grub from the usb and load an .iso of ubuntu that's on your pc as the installer and install to the same usb
[09:31] <de-facto> Pray3r btw maybe some guys in #android have an idea N5x is very popular device i guess
[09:33] <subhojit777> wyoung, yes. I have an old system, with less RAM. The system crashes when I use any IDE
[09:33] <cherryschnaps> anyone using mpv to watch twitch streams? when i try to watch a stream, audio works fine but video is frozen until i constantly move my mouse over the player.
   that's good idea .   shall i try load .iso file from virtual PC and write in USB  , it will work ?
[09:33] <Pray3r> de-facto: All right. Thank you.
[09:34] <de-facto> Pray3r do you get that notification on your phone when you plug it in (charging mode, where you can change to mtp)?
[09:34] <EriC^^> ubuntu226: that's an option, i've tried it once with virtualbox and using rawdisk image file for the usb, in the middle of the install it gave an error, you can try if you want it might work
[09:34] <tankenmate> anyone else here use the firefox nightly ppa?
[09:35] <lotuspsychje> !ppa | tankenmate
[09:35] <EriC^^> ubuntu226: if you already have ubuntu on the usb, and it's uefi mode, you can press c in the grub menu where it says try ubuntu, and put your own commands and load the .iso from the hard disk and then install ubuntu to the usb
[09:36] <EriC^^> ubuntu226: check here for the commands https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2/ISOBoot#Menuentry_Example
[09:36] <ubuntu226> ok  eric
[09:36] <EriC^^> ubuntu226: i've found that if there's a space in the path to the iso, you need to use quotes with the variable, like loopback loop (hd..)"$isofile"
[09:37] <Pray3r> de-facto: I did not get that notification. I set it on [Developer option] -> [Select USB Configuration] -> [MTP]
[09:38] <gtkm90> what i to do, when i install the dowload manager
[09:38] <tankenmate> anyone know how to get apt archive daily clean to ignore certain packages?
[09:38] <cfhowlett> !details | gtkm90
[09:40] <de-facto> Pray3r if you dont get any notification im not sure it even physically connected to your pc
[09:40] <de-facto> at least it should show up charging or something like that
[09:40] <de-facto> does it charge?
[09:40] <gtkm90> i am looking for application, it is the same Internet dowload manager
[09:40] <EriC^^> gtkm90: uget is nice
[09:40] <EriC^^> also install aria2 and the flashgot addon for firefox
[09:42] <Pray3r> de-facto: but it's charging...
[09:43] <wyoung> I will be here for another 30 mins, who else needs assitance?
[09:43] <wyoung> assistance*
[09:43] <lotuspsychje> Pray3r: usb cable not broken?
[09:43] <lotuspsychje> Pray3r: doesnt make sense nothing shows in syslog...
[09:44] <Pray3r> de-facto: I connected the device, then restart my pc, it ok.
[09:44] <de-facto> Pray3r you mean it works now?
[09:44] <de-facto> as mtp?
[09:45] <Pray3r> lotuspsychje: not broken, it new.
[09:45] <de-facto> what kind of cable are you using for this? usb-c to usb-A?
[09:46] <Pray3r> de-facto: not sure, and I disconnect it, then connect, it don't work.
[09:47] <Pray3r> de-facto: usb-c
[09:47] <wyoung> what is usb-c again?
[09:47] <de-facto> Pray3r but what did you meant by "it ok"? did it work on fresh restart as MTP?
[09:47] <wyoung> is that usb 3.5?
[09:48] <de-facto> wyoung its the new usb connector (symmetrical contacts)
[09:48] <wyoung> nice
[09:48] <otyugh> hey. Is there a way to have two user on a single machine, and deconnect to one to connect the other without having to tip any password ?
[09:48] <otyugh> the "no password" thingie is what I don't know if it's possible
[09:49] <Pray3r> de-facto: yes, it work on fresh restart
[09:49] <wyoung> de-facto: thnx
[09:50] <gtkm90> i am looking for facebook desktop for ubuntu 16.04
[09:51] <wyoung> gtkm90: why?
[09:53] <gtkm90> facebook desktop,it is application, i can check my messager, up image,...
[09:53] <wyoung> :\
[09:53] <subhojit777> wyoung, just add this repo "deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/pi-rho/dev/ubuntu xenial main", and install vim-gtk. This will install Vim with both python and python3 support
[09:53] <wyoung> gtkm90: can you tweat it too?
[09:54] <Commodora> Ello
[09:54] <wyoung> subhojit777: but I prefer idea / webstorm / pycharm
[09:54] <ubuntu226> boot failed
[09:55] <wyoung> gtkm90: I guess you need an outlet to discus the latest Justin Beiber album
[09:55] <EriC^^> ubuntu226: what error? /dev/sr0 thing?
[09:55] <subhojit777> wyoung, Vim is very flexible and works smoothly with least resources. Once you master it's shortcuts, you can do ANYTHING with it. IDEs look literally lame infornt of Vim
[09:56] <subhojit777> "once you master Vim, you can do anything with it"
[09:56] <wyoung> subhojit777: I thought emacs was better
[09:56] <ravenx> is it possible to go from one LTS over to two LTSs?
[09:56] <cynicallemon> can vim make me a sandwich?
[09:56] <ravenx> i am on 12.04 and i need to do an upgrade to 16.04 for our servers
[09:56] <somsip> !lts-upgrade | ravenx
[09:56] <wyoung> cynicallemon: pycharms can
[09:56] <ravenx> is it better to go to 14.04 first?
[09:57] <ravenx> somsip: is that the bash command i should run?
[09:57] <subhojit777> wyoung, yeah I have heard lot about it,  never used it though
[09:57] <subhojit777> cynicallemon, sorry no :)
[09:57] <cfhowlett> ravenx, you cannot only jump a single LTS version at a time so unless you decide to clean install ...
[09:57] <cfhowlett> *can*
[09:57] <lotuspsychje> somsip: without -
[09:57] <somsip> !ltsupgrade | ravenx
[09:57] <cynicallemon> nano and a terminal is all you need
  sory ,thats for virutal-box.  now fixed , i give memory too smal
[09:58] <gtkm90> ubuntu or linuxt, which one is better ?
[09:58] <somsip> !ot | cynicallemon
[09:58] <gtkm90> ubuntu or linux-mint , which one is better ?
[09:58] <wyoung> gtkm90: ubuntu
[09:58] <somsip> gtkm90: this is not a channel for polls. Try each and choose what best suits your needs
[09:58] <ubuntu226>  now there is problem  when i try to install ,its not identify any partion (usb )
[09:58] <wyoung> gtkm90: but you asked in a ubuntu channel soyou are going to get a bias response
[09:58] <cynicallemon> gtkm90, debian
[09:58] <bazhang> gtkm90, they are not different and this is not the place for that discussion
[09:58] <wyoung> cynicallemon: windows is better
[09:58] <gtkm90> thanks
[09:59] <somsip> wyoung: enlough now
[09:59] <wyoung> cynicallemon: it reduces TCO apparantly
[09:59] <bazhang> wyoung, stay on topic here
[09:59] <cynicallemon> must make a note of that
[09:59] <paulltk> Hello
[09:59] <paulltk> My internet doesnt work
[09:59] <cfhowlett> and yet here you are ?
[09:59] <wyoung> somsip, bazhang: I was being sarcastic, not being serious, read my previous comments
[10:00] <somsip> !details | paulltk
[10:00] <paulltk> Mobile phone
[10:00] <cfhowlett> !behelpful | wyoung please
[10:00] <wyoung> cfhowlett: :\ not this asgain
[10:00] <somsip> wyoung: this is not the right channel for that. Send jokes by PM
[10:00] <cfhowlett> paulltk, more details please
[10:00] <paulltk> I have linux mint, is this the right place?
[10:00] <wyoung> cfhowlett: s/s//
[10:00] <bazhang> wyoung, this is never the joke channel
[10:00] <wyoung> paulltk: no
[10:00] <somsip> !mint | paulltk (no, it isnt)
[10:00] <cynicallemon> bad queation
    i dont know how to make system discover usb before installing
[10:00] <k1l_> paulltk: no, they have special channels on another irc server
[10:01] <wyoung> bazhang: I wasn't making a joke
[10:01] <paulltk> Thanks!
[10:01] <paulltk> Have a nice day
[10:01] <EriC^^> ubuntu226: check here https://www.virtualbox.org/manual/ch09.html#rawdisk
[10:01] <wyoung> bazhang: but thank you for your input
[10:01] <bazhang> wyoung, sarcasm, whatever
[10:01] <EriC^^> ubuntu226: you have to make a file that represents the usb
[10:01] <wyoung> bazhang: how about you get on topic now, you have said your peace, now drop it
[10:01] <EriC^^> ubuntu226: i think there's another way involving pass through i've never tried it before though, it might be better
[10:01] <k1l_> cynicallemon: can you please reduce the offtopic in here? we try to focus on technical support
[10:01] <gtkm90> I'm sorry, I made people unhappy
[10:02] <somsip> gtkm90: just get back on topic and all will be forgotten
[10:02] <Pray3r> de-facto: I connected n5x, restart system, it work, then I disconnect usb cable, and connect, it is not work. It just work with system start.
   tell me, am intserst
[10:02] <ubuntu226> :)
[10:03] <cynicallemon> kil_ i reckon if you guys cracked a joke once in a while people would not be so afraid to ask questions - but what do I know, only had 36 years of experience
[10:05] <k1l_> !guidelines > cynicallemon
[10:05] <Yukibutt> Good morning!
[10:06] <cynicallemon> kil_ thanks for that, i mean really thanks
[10:06] <EriC^^> ubuntu226: this seems to have a lot of information about various methods http://askubuntu.com/questions/16988/how-do-i-install-ubuntu-to-a-usb-key-without-using-startup-disk-creator
[10:08] <EriC^^> ubuntu226: this might be useful too https://www.howtoforge.com/virtualbox-2-how-to-pass-through-usb-devices-to-guests-on-an-ubuntu-8.10-host
[10:09] <ubuntu226>  <EriC^^>  yes it is
[10:10] <Yukibutt> That awkward moment when you use CLI Irc + Nano in class and people think you are hacking
[10:10] <source47> hi guys, i have a ubuntu 16.04 lxc container, however after doing a 'systemctl reboot' it loses the ipv4 address. any ideas how i can troubleshoot this?
[10:12] <ducasse> source47: how is the address assigned, static or dhcp?
[10:13] <source47> ducasse: dhcp
[10:14] <ducasse> source47: then have your dhcp server assign a static address based on the mac address. or set the container up with a static address outside the range the dhcp server assigns from.
[10:14] <source47> ok let me try that
[10:14] <source47> problem is i cant do lxc-stop anymore on the container
[10:15] <Yukibutt> Ill see you all around later, a bit tied up atm
[10:15] <ducasse> source47: not even lxc-stop -k ?
[10:15] <cynicallemon> source47, double check your lxc container config
[10:16] <source47> ok -k works synicallemon
[10:16] <Executioner> Is it possible to run 16.10 with a 2.6 kernel?
[10:16] <cfhowlett> 16.10?   not anywhere close to being ready yet but ask in #ubuntu+1
[10:16] <bazhang> Executioner, 16.10 is not even close to release
[10:16] <Executioner> *16.04
[10:17] <bazhang> Executioner, why would you ever want that
[10:17] <Executioner> upgrading from 15.10 to 16.04, on a 2.6 kernel
[10:17] <Executioner> well, I can't upgrade my kernel since it's running under openvz
[10:19] <source47> ducasse: cynicallemon: hmm, so lxc-stop -k followed by lxc-start brings it back up with systemctl running normally.
[10:20] <source47> but it doesnt explain why 'systemctl reboot' hangs the container
[10:20] <source47> i needed to be able to reboot the machine
[10:20] <source47> s/machine/container/
[10:21] <ducasse> source47: check the logs.
[10:21] <source47> ducasse: i have this: https://gist.github.com/developerinlondon/896c0afe0c5430bfd1352c59548e0481
[10:22] <source47> its getting permission problems, but i am not sure how i can fix this?
[10:24] <source47> sorry try this. the log wasnt complete - https://gist.github.com/developerinlondon/92e8cec96dd8519ef2e334549c466138
[10:25] <k1l_> Executioner: best is to ask the hoster to provide a new host kernel
[10:26] <Executioner> In this case, what is the best way to restore to 15.10 from a failed upgrade?
[10:27] <Executioner> Running apt-get with -f would want to upgrade libc6 which doesn't want to run on this kernel, yet half the packages are already upgraded
[10:27] <k1l_> Executioner: what is the output of "lsb_release -d"?
[10:27] <Executioner> 16.04 LTS
[10:28] <k1l_> ok, that looks like there is not really a chance. there are no downgrades
[10:28] <Executioner> Yet "uname -a" says "Linux vps69881 2.6.32-042stab111.12 #1 SMP Thu Sep 17 11:38:20 MSK 2015 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux", so no kernel was upgraded
[10:28] <EriC^^> wow
[10:28] <EriC^^> that's pretty old
[10:28] <Executioner> Well, 15.10 ran without problems on it
[10:28] <platzhirsch> Is there a way to execute a script when you cd into a new directory?
[10:29] <Executioner> Most of the shell seems to be working, except running screen and tmux terminate instantly, things like that
[10:29] <ducasse> source47: i really don't know, maybe try to post the log in #ubuntu-server?
[10:30] <source47> ok thanks ducasse
[10:30] <boingy> Hiya! I installed LXDE on my Ubuntu box and like it. Because that's an old machine I am considering some radical cleaning like 'apt-get purge *unity* *gnome*'. Did you guys try something similar and got in big troubles?
[10:32] <cfhowlett> boingy, unity is so well integrated into ubuntu that removing it will cause unpredictable behavior.   Alternative: get lubuntu and clean install over your existing ubuntu
[10:32] <bazhang> !purelubuntu | boingy
[10:32] <source47> here is the log: https://gist.github.com/developerinlondon/30efa347f13ac820dc5e533d32b4966e
[10:32] <hateball> bazhang: isnt that a bit outdated
[10:33] <cfhowlett> quite outdated
[10:33] <bazhang> hateball, seems to be yeah. my bad
[10:33] <bazhang> fresh install then boingy
[10:34] <Executioner> k1l_: http://askubuntu.com/a/3675 Not even this one, with changing the release to 15.10?
[10:35] <max12345> hello, I've run out of diskspace but gparted shows me I have quite a bit left, what do I do? Also how do I know on device my root lives?
[10:35] <boingy> I will go for a fresh install then. Thanks guys!
[10:35] <cfhowlett> max12345, df -h
[10:35] <radicate> Would you recommend OR NOT moving to 16.04 at this point of time?
[10:35] <EriC^^> max12345: type df -h | nc termbin.com 9999
[10:35] <EriC^^> max12345: also sudo parted -l | nc termbin.com 9999
[10:35] <de-facto> Has anyone here experience with the Huawei E3372s-153 USB LTE stick on Xenial? Would that work with network manager as broadband cellular network (via at commands) or does it show up as USB ethernet (like E3372h-*) and work as a NAT device? i want to get my IP directly from my ISP to be able to open ports on it (no NAT). Im asking because i consider buying such a device in future...
[10:35] <ravenx> upgrading from 12.04 to 14.0 via 'do-release-upgrade' and i'm fighting against this loop in /var/log/dist-upgrade/apt.log:
[10:35] <ravenx> Installing iproute2 as Conflicts of iproute2
[10:35] <cfhowlett> radicate, I'm on 14.04 and have been LTS only since 10.04.  wait unti  july.
[10:35] <k1l_> Executioner: if that will revert to all 15.10 packages, i guess that will not undo all changes that the upgrade scripts from that packages did. so that results in a non consistent system
[10:36] <ravenx> MarkInstall iproute2 [ amd64 ] < none -> 3.12.0-2ubuntu1 > ( net ) FU=0
[10:36] <ravenx> it just keeps looping those two lines.
[10:36] <ravenx> anyone know any idea why that happens.  my update can't go any further because of this p ackage
[10:36] <radicate> cfhowlett: I'm not currently using any Ubuntu, willing to set it up as my development machine
[10:37] <radicate> cfhowlett: Which one would you pick?
[10:37] <ravenx> i only have iproute installed
[10:37] <hateball> max12345: pastebin the output of "df -h"
[10:37] <cfhowlett> radicate, do you have 14.04 at present?  wait.  NO ubuntu?  go for 16.04
[10:37] <hateball> oh, others have already replied :o
[10:38] <max12345> heh I had the wrong device selected, my main disk is actually full...
[10:38] <Executioner> k1l_: Were there enough changes between 15.10 and 16.04 which would mean complete incompatibility?
[10:38] <cfhowlett> max12345, "Then your best option is to tread lightly."  Pay close attention to what you're doing.
[10:39] <max12345> yuuuup
[10:39] <k1l_> Executioner: that depends on the packages used. there were some php, python and mysql changes to new major versions as standard.
[10:40] <ravenx> anyone know why i'm getting the loop?
[10:40] <Executioner> php7 or 5.x? Also, I don't use python (unless some of the packages require it, not any I'm aware of; I don't write python scripts)
[10:41] <cfhowlett> ravenx, nope.  but I do know the workaround.  clean install.
[10:41] <ravenx> but this isn't a make file
[10:41] <ravenx> i cannot run
[10:41] <ravenx> make clean
[10:41] <ravenx> and make install
[10:41] <ravenx> this is do-release-upgrade
[10:43] <ravenx> cfhowlett: ?
[10:43] <ducasse> ravenx: 'clean' as in 'install from scratch'.
[10:43] <ravenx> oh.
[10:43] <ravenx> OOOH.
[10:43] <ravenx> oh boy.  that is not really option
[10:43] <ravenx> but thanks anyways.
[10:44] <John[Lisbeth]> I am having trouble upgrading from 15.10 to 16.04
[10:44] <John[Lisbeth]> how can I check my version?
[10:44] <ravenx> cat /etc/*-release
[10:44] <radicate> I do wonder what are the improvements of 16 over the previous versions, seems like to the end user there's no apparent differences
[10:45] <John[Lisbeth]> 15.10 wiley
[10:45] <John[Lisbeth]> 15.10 is not lts I need to upgrade, radicate
[10:45] <radicate> Bugs I've encountered before such with displays, networking, mouse scrolling too much etc have never been touched
[10:45] <John[Lisbeth]> If I was 14.04 I would be good for another 2 years but I am trying to do a rolling system
[10:46] <cfhowlett> ravenx, well, 12.04 is still supported, so you have time to get this figured out.  But IMHO, clean install is way less painful than in place upgrade.  YMMV
[10:47] <John[Lisbeth]> I have just never done rolling before so I'd like to try my hand at it
[10:47] <John[Lisbeth]> I mean besides my brief time with arch
[10:47] <ducasse> John[Lisbeth]: ubuntu is not a rolling release.
[10:48] <max12345> hm ok my home directory is barely 30GB of the 100 I should have and that are supposedly full
[10:49] <max12345> I just unpacked something, is it possible something went wrong and blocked too much space?
[10:49] <cfhowlett> max12345, do this:  df -h | pastebinit
[10:50] <k1l_> Executioner: the whole system uses a lot phython
[10:50] <Executioner> Oh.
[10:50] <Executioner> That's... a problem in this case
[10:51] <Executioner> Most painless backup option (including settings for packages)?
[10:51] <k1l_> Executioner: downgrades are not meant to happen.
[10:51] <John[Lisbeth]> I've done do-release-upgrade and it always says there are no upgrades avaialble
[10:51] <cfhowlett> because they won't be offered via that method until 16.04.1
[10:52] <max12345> cfhowlett: http://pastebin.com/9hDaKVf5 there isn't much to see there though
[10:52] <radicate> םילארשי
[10:54] <radicate> Anyone here ever tried booting Ubuntu or actually any linux system on an intel atom x86 tablet/laptop that comes with Windows 8?
[10:54] <John[Lisbeth]> why?
[10:54] <radicate> Because for the love of god I cannot make it
[10:54] <radicate> It doesn't want to work at all
[10:54] <ducasse> max12345: try 'sudo du -sh / | pastebinit'
[10:55] <radicate> I can't get to the installation screen even
[10:55] <k1l_> radicate: most times that ship with a 32bit uefi system. which need some manual work. so better look out for instructions on your exact device and if someone already tried it.
[10:56] <radicate> k1l_: Tried, no one seem to have tried
[10:56] <radicate> k1l_:  I found instructions for similar devices but none worked
[10:56] <max12345> ducasse: it says root is 87GB, nothing else
[10:57] <ducasse> max12345: sorry 'sudo du -sh /* | pastebinit'
[10:58] <ducasse> max12345: or you can use 'ncdu' as root in / to chasse down where the free space has gone.
[10:59] <ducasse> *chase
[10:59] <Codfection> does anyone know how to make launcher items to middle instead of left side? (on bottom, ubuntu 16.04)
[11:01] <max12345> ducasse: seems to mostly wine and virtual machines...
[11:03] <brunch875> Oh, this is why I absolutely love linux
[11:03] <brunch875> while ! ping -c1 www.google.com -I wlp2s0; do :; done; notify-send "Wifi can reach the internet again!"
[11:03] <max12345> I actually have a dual boot setup I really only use for linux, on 2 hard disks, one per install, can I delete stuff from the other harddisk and extend my file system to it?
[11:03] <alkisg> Hi, from ubuntu-mate 15.10, do-release-upgrade isn't supposed to upgrade to 16.04? Is says no new release found...
[11:03] <cfhowlett> wait until 16.04.1 alkisg
[11:04] <humbolt> I have upgraded from trusty to xenial. But the upgrade was interrupted. I have finished it, with apt-get dist-upgrade. But in a proper upgrade certain packages need to be removed. AFAIK dist-upgrade does not do that. How can I now get to a clean system?
[11:04] <ducasse> max12345: add it up and see if the numbers are right.
[11:04] <ducasse> max12345: empty the other disk and move /home onto it.
[11:06] <garshol> humbolt: 'apt-get autoremove && apt-get autoclean'
[11:07] <munish> alkisg: try do-release-upgrade -d
[11:07] <alkisg> cfhowlett: thanks, I've already upgraded all my other systems, my problem isn't with how stable it is...
[11:07] <alkisg> munish: thanks, neither -d nor -p show any new releases...
[11:07] <Executioner> Anyone, what's the most painless way to backup a server (including settings for packages)?
[11:07] <alkisg> I've made sure that Prompt=lts is in /etc/update-manager/release-upgrades
[11:08] <k1l_> alkisg: on PC hardware?
[11:08] <alkisg> k1l_: yes, i386
[11:08] <k1l_> alkisg: make the prompt to "normal"
[11:08] <alkisg> ty, testing...
[11:09] <alkisg> k1l_: thanks a lot, that did it!
[11:09] <k1l_> alkisg: LTS is to be used from 14.04 to 16.04 (which is blocked until 16.04.1 is released in july)
[11:09] <alkisg> Gotcha
[11:09] <ducasse> Executioner: i prefer attic.
[11:16] <Donitzo> nice, now the install of ubuntu server is permanently stuck at 83%
[11:16] <Donitzo> yeah this is great, great
[11:17] <de-facto> Donitzo at what step?
[11:17] <Donitzo> preparing linux-image-xxx
[11:17] <de-facto> hmm for how long is it stuck there?
[11:17] <Donitzo> 15 minutes
[11:18] <ducasse> Donitzo: there should be log messages on one of the virtual consoles, 4 i think.
[11:18] <source47> any ideas why localed has permission errors? I am running ubuntu15.10 container inside a ubuntu15.10 host. here is the syslog - https://gist.github.com/developerinlondon/b8be2a693cf33bdbd188a3725324e3f8
[11:18] <de-facto> Donitzo hmm thats really a bit long, did the rest went fast (e.g. fast hdd writes and all)?
[11:18] <Donitzo> pretty fast
[11:19] <de-facto> btw Donitzo you can also ask in #ubuntu-server
[11:19] <de-facto> im not too familiar with server installer...
[11:19] <Donitzo> pretty much the same thing
[11:19] <Donitzo> except it supports RAID which I need
[11:20] <de-facto> Donitzo did it had network access during install to pull in all the stuff it needs? maybe it hangs on some timeouts?
[11:20] <Donitzo> no network access
[11:21] <de-facto> and i guess you also did not check pull in updates via network then... hmmm
[11:22] <Donitzo> it shouldn't be checked
[11:24] <de-facto> Donitzo any messages on the ttyX?
[11:25] <de-facto> e.g. Ctrl + Alt + F1, F2 and so on?
[11:25] <Donitzo> let me check
[11:25] <ducasse> Donitzo: try 4
[11:27] <tooryasnm> anyone who understand how conky works?
[11:27] <Donitzo> it skipped to the next file now
[11:27] <Donitzo> it says it's unpacking extra now
[11:28] <Donitzo> there is no excuse for it to take this long to unpack these files
[11:28] <Donitzo> 600 mb at USB 3
[11:28] <lotuspsychje> tooryasnm: there's a nice #conky channel if you like
[11:28] <tooryasnm> lotuspsychje, nobody write there
[11:29] <OerHeks> tooryasnm, basicly yes.
[11:29] <OerHeks> tons of conky scripts on the forum
[11:29] <and-> can i extend my current ubuntu filesystem ?
[11:29] <EriC^^> and-: open a terminal and type sudo parted -l | nc termbin.com 9999
[11:30] <OerHeks> 2325 pages now .. still growing >> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=281865&page=2325
[11:30] <Andy__> i use lubuntu just to browse the web
[11:30] <OerHeks> !PM | tooryasnm
[11:30] <Andy__> are there any reasons I should upgrade?  I use 14.04 now
[11:31] <lotuspsychje> !ltsupgrade | Andy__
[11:31] <OerHeks> and-, if there is space next to it, yes, you can extend it by booting a live iso, not from a running system
[11:32] <Andy__> that's the thing. i don't want to upgrade unless it helps with what i'm using currently which is mainly browse the web
[11:32] <Andy__> i use chrome so I think chrome updates by itself right?
[11:32] <EriC^^> Andy__: you'll have newer software
[11:32] <and-> EriC^^: what to do next ?
[11:32] <lotuspsychje> Andy__: upgrading is the users choice
[11:32] <tooryasnm> ubottu, im looking for good conky script for 1.10 version but so far seems like none works that i got from internet
[11:32] <EriC^^> and-: paste the link it gives you here
[11:32] <and-> EriC^^: http://termbin.com/ejhf
[11:33] <EriC^^> and-: you have 19gb that isn't allocated
[11:33] <Andy__> does chrome automatically update itself right? i don't need to run software updates to update chrome right?
[11:34] <EriC^^> and-: between sda7 and sda8
[11:34] <k1l_> Andy__: no
[11:34] <brunch875> The FHS keeps on referencing the "local system administrator". That's me, right?
[11:34] <k1l_> Andy__: chrome will install another 3rd party repo and will update itself with the system updates.
[11:34] <k1l_> but keep in mind that chrome dropped 32bit support. if you run 32bit dont use chrome anymore.
[11:35] <Andy__> if I don't run software updates, does chrome still update itself?
[11:35] <k1l_> Andy__: no.
[11:36] <and-> EriC^^: can you tell how to do that?
[11:36] <OerHeks> that is the beauty of linux: all updates through 1 click
[11:36] <k1l_> Andy__: and you want to run the system updates since they fix a lot of other security issues. just take a look at ubuntu.com/usn
[11:37] <EriC^^> and-: you can't really extend the partition for linux, it's at the end of the disk, you can however make use of the 19gb that's not being used right now, but you have to assign it under some mountpoint, either /home maybe or /usr perhaps, or maybe just mount it somewhere and you can put your data in it
[11:37] <EriC^^> and-: type sudo cfdisk /dev/sda
[11:41] <sw0rdy> hey guys there's something seriously wrong with my encrypted setup
[11:41] <sw0rdy> system won't go to suspend or shutdown/reboot
[11:41] <and-> EriC^^: i have created a new partition from the free space.. Ty
[11:42] <EriC^^> and-: ok, you have to format it now
[11:42] <sw0rdy> when I restarted by forcing it with the power button on reboot it asked to send a problem report which was related to linux-image-generic
[11:42] <EriC^^> and-: type sudo partprobe , then get the name with sudo parted -l , then sudo mkfs.ext4 /dev/sdxY
[11:42] <sw0rdy> s7
[11:43] <humbolt> how can I resume do-release-upgrade?
[11:45] <sw0rdy> will the GUI software updater remove old linux kernal software when updating to new ones?
[11:45] <quadruple> hi, is it possible to abort/cancel a running gearman job (job queue stored in memcache) ?
[11:45] <and-> EriC^^: done.. ty
[11:46] <EriC^^> and-: np
[11:46] <sw0rdy> anyone?
[11:46] <OerHeks> sw0rdy, encrypted filesystem, with encrypted swap? then your system will not be able to get back up, know issue.
[11:47] <Andy__> what year will the support for 14.04 end?
[11:47] <sw0rdy> mine is back up and I'm on it now OerHeks what issue are you talking about?
[11:47] <OerHeks> 2-14 + 5 years
[11:47] <OerHeks> *2014
[11:47] <de-facto> tooryasnm the 1.10 version uses another syntax for its config files (lua like notation). you either have to find configs in that syntax or use compatibility mode (old syntax) which shoudl be detected automatically. you also can port old to new syntax (there are examples on google for that)
[11:48] <OerHeks> sw0rdy, suspend and encryption, no go
[11:48] <sw0rdy> OerHeks, so should I avoid installing new linux kernel image / linux image generic stuff that is being offered by the GUI software updater?
[11:48] <dchapman> humbolt: dpkg --configure -a; apt-get update; apt-get upgrade; do-release-upgrade
[11:49] <OerHeks> sw0rdy, i see no reason not to.
[11:49] <sw0rdy> OerHeks, when my 14.04 system was fresh it was working quite fine I'm not sure if this started because of updates
[11:50] <sw0rdy> OerHeks, I tried sudo apt-get remove and it gave me this: The following packages were automatically installed and are no longer required:
[11:50] <sw0rdy>   libntdb1 linux-image-3.19.0-25-generic linux-image-extra-3.19.0-25-generic
[11:50] <sw0rdy> Use 'apt-get autoremove' to remove them.
[11:50] <Andy__> i'm using 14.04 lubuntu now. do you know when its support will end?
[11:50] <humbolt> dchapman: the last part, does not really start anymore, when it was started once.
[11:50] <sw0rdy> but someone a few weeks ago told me not do remove them... OerHeks
[11:50] <dchapman> humbolt: try the steps I gave you in order
[11:51] <sw0rdy> Andy__, 2014 + 5 = ?
[11:51] <ducasse> sw0rdy: 2019
[11:51] <Andy__> it's 5 years of support now? i thought it's only 3 years
[11:52] <lotuspsychje> lubuntu is 3 years
[11:52] <lotuspsychje> Andy__: but you can upgrade to 16.04 in these years
[11:52] <humbolt> dchapman: I did apt-get dist-upgrade in the meantime.
[11:52] <de-facto> tooryasnm if you want it to autostart you can put conky.desktop in /etc/xdg/autostart with the usual lines and something like Exec=/usr/bin/conky -c /path/to/your/conkyrc
[11:52] <sw0rdy> ducasse, what do I do about linux-image-generic stuff
[11:52] <OerHeks> sw0rdy, those are useless, you still have the current kernel + the previous one ( to boot in recovery)
[11:52] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
[11:52] <humbolt> dchapman: what I am concerned about is, that the packages, which should be removed in the upgrade are not removed.
[11:53] <ducasse> sw0rdy: if it is an old kernel it is safe to remove
[11:53] <sw0rdy> OerHeks, ducasse ok so do I use the software updater to update those same packages first and then see if apt-get still wants me to do "autoremove"
[11:54] <OerHeks> sw0rdy, that is fine
[11:55] <dchapman> humbolt: that's why you make sure all packages are configured before updating and starting the upgrade process again.
[11:55] <dchapman> humbolt: apt will correctly identify packages that need to be removed after upgrading
[11:56] <humbolt> dchapman: I have done the dpkg-config and install -f part of course.
[11:56] <humbolt> dchapman: but something seems off. I can not install docker anymore.
[11:57] <dchapman> humbolt: If you followed those steps, in order, than I do suggest doing a fresh install
[11:58] <humbolt> dchapman: That's what I am up to now. Unless somebody can provide a better solution. It seems to have to do with the fact, that iptables was replaced by nftables.
[11:58] <humbolt> dchapman: however, other people have not experienced this problem.
[11:59] <dchapman> humbolt: odd, perhaps something unique to your configuration is the culprit
[12:00] <lotuspsychje> humbolt: did you install external ppa's?
[12:01] <OerHeks> nftables is meant to replace the iptables framework. https://wiki.debian.org/nftables
[12:01] <OerHeks> but in development, now v0.5
[12:02] <OerHeks> humbolt, are you running debian?
[12:02] <OerHeks> err dchapman , are you running debian?
[12:03] <humbolt> dchapman: nothing really special. the machine is not doing much.
[12:03] <humbolt> lotuspsychje: not even any ppas, only docker repo.
[12:04] <dchapman> OerHeks: humbolt is the one having issues
[12:04] <humbolt> OerHeks: no, ubuntu.
[12:04] <lotuspsychje> humbolt: remove all external repos, backup your /home and follow the advice of dchapman
[12:05] <guest-p0gz5t> sss
[12:05] <altin> has anyone upgraded from 14.04.4 to 16.04 and f* up their system yet :D ?
[12:05] <guest-p0gz5t> Moin wiegehts
[12:05] <lotuspsychje> !de | guest-p0gz5t
[12:06] <lotuspsychje> !ltsupgrade | altin
[12:06] <philinux> altin;~ I always wait for the point release on my main macine
[12:06] <altin> cool
[12:06] <altin> Where should I check this for the next time ?
[12:06] <humbolt> lotuspsychje: I am going for that.
[12:06] <lotuspsychje> altin: check what
[12:06] <philinux> altin;~ I'm running 16.04 on this laptop. Upgraded from 15.10 no issues
[12:07] <humbolt> however, here is the log message docker throws on post-install:docker[9037]: time="2016-05-11T12:59:36.674521857+02:00" level=fatal msg="Error starting daemon: Error initializing network controller: error obtaining controller instance: failed to create NAT chain: COMMAND_FAILED: '/sbin/iptables -w2 -t nat -N DOCKER' failed: iptables v1.6.0: can't initialize iptables table `nat': Table does not exist (do you need to insmod?)\nPerhaps
[12:07] <philinux> altin;~ the point release will be offered by normal updates
[12:07] <dchapman> philinux: he's asking about 14.04 -> 16.04
[12:08] <philinux> dchapman please read my first post
[12:08] <humbolt> lotuspsychje, dchapman: so this actually seems to be just a little issue, the NAT chain not having been created in nftables.
[12:09] <dchapman> philinux: no problem
[12:15] <FManTropyx> Ubuntu is forked from Debian, right?
[12:17] <k1l_> FManTropyx: yes.
[12:18] <FManTropyx> so it kind of builds on it and is better?
[12:18] <SwedeMike> FManTropyx: depends on what you mean by forked. It commonly imports things from Debian.
[12:18] <SwedeMike> FManTropyx: "better" is a subjective term.
[12:18] <FManTropyx> Debian packages work on Ubuntu?
[12:18] <SwedeMike> FManTropyx: sometimes.
[12:19] <lotuspsychje> !debian | FManTropyx
[12:20] <OerHeks> When Ubuntu transits to its own packagemanagment, it is definitly better, FManTropyx
[12:20] <k1l_> FManTropyx: ubuntu takes the packages from debian on the start of the development of the new ubuntu release. but then there are a lot of changes. usually ubuntu and debian dont share the same package versions, so packages build for debian might not work due to depency issues. or vice versa
[12:22] <dchapman> FManTropyx: More to the point, Ubuntu offers packages that are more up to date.
[12:22] <SwedeMike> dchapman: you can't really make those blanket statements, they're not always true.
[12:23] <dchapman> SwedeMike: Nothing is always true, but in this case, it's true in many cases.
[12:24] <sw0rdy> apt-get reports 5 "not upgraded" packages can I view them and even install them?
[12:24] <joaquin_> hi, this command will search lines that don't match the fisrt regex and matches the second one?  zgrep -v -E -h "Site:\s[^,]+,Server:\s[^,]+,"  *.gz | zgrep -E -h ",The\smanagement\sserver|,The\sclient" *.gz
[12:24] <k1l_> sw0rdy: run "sudo apt update && sudo apt full-upgrade"
[12:24] <sw0rdy> will apt-get upgrade make me go from 14.04 to another version? k1l_
[12:25] <k1l_> sw0rdy: no
[12:25] <sw0rdy> nice1
[12:25] <sw0rdy> nice!
[12:25] <sw0rdy> what about apt-get full-upgrade, k1l_
[12:25] <k1l_> sw0rdy: on ubuntu you dont use apt to upgrade the ubuntu release
[12:25] <SwedeMike> dchapman: that's because Ubuntu releases more often, so that's not so strange. but it also depends on what debian repositories you're working against. If you're talking stable released versions, well, then yes, if you're talking LTS versions compared to debian stable, then ... sometimes, if you're comparing against debian unstable, then no.
[12:25] <k1l_> sw0rdy: details matter. i said "apt full-upgrade"
[12:26] <FManTropyx> ok, thanks for the informations
[12:27] <sw0rdy> k1l_, thanks, can I ask whats the difference between "apt upgrade" and "apt full-upgrade"
[12:27] <k1l_> sw0rdy: to upgrade the ubuntu release on CLI the command would be "do-release-upgrade". again: ubuntu doesnt use apt to upgrade the ubuntu release versions
[12:27] <mcdado> hello! I'm trying to setup sshguard on a 14.04 server
[12:28] <mcdado> i installed the package, i can't figure out how to configure it
[12:28] <cfhowlett> sw0rdy, fully explained on the man page
[12:28] <k1l_> sw0rdy: full-upgrade is allowed to run all upgrade processes like removing unused packages etc.
[12:28] <cfhowlett> !server | mcdado
[12:28] <sw0rdy> nice
[12:29] <R0binh00d> lotuspsychje, When do you sleep man? :-)
[12:29] <R0binh00d> cat /dev/some_sleep > lotuspsychje  :-)
[12:29] <dchapman> SwedeMike: Yes. And I would say that the average end user who comes here for support is running a stable release, and therefore my statement will be mostly true--enough that making it serves as a decent end-user indication of the major difference between Debian and Ubuntu.
[12:30] <ravenx> there is no major diff between debiand and ubuntu
[12:30] <sw0rdy> thanks k1l_
[12:30] <cfhowlett> ravenx, false.  there are many significant differences.  choose and use what works for you.
[12:30] <k1l_> ravenx: that is not true.
[12:31] <ravenx> aside from no ppas
[12:31] <ravenx> i can't see the differences
[12:31] <SwedeMike> ravenx: I run both Ubuntu and Debian and there are definitely differences.
[12:31] <ravenx> just no ppa
[12:31] <sw0rdy> I'm doing apt autoremove to remove the "no longer required" linux-image packages
[12:31] <dchapman> I have run both also and agree with SwedeMike
[12:32] <sw0rdy> and then installing linux-firmware and linux-firmware-nonfree to see if my system recognizes the Intel wifi adapter.
[12:32] <sw0rdy> is that the right route to take to get my wifi going?
[12:32] <SwedeMike> ravenx: it's like saying all cars in the same segment are alike. On some level they all have 4 wheels and a steering wheel, but on other levels they're very different.
[12:33] <sw0rdy> I went to Additional Drivers, its not there.
[12:33] <ravenx> what are some of the differences you noticed between ubuntu and debian
[12:33] <hateball> there is a reason there's an !ot channel for non-support stuff
[12:33] <cfhowlett> ravenx, please continue in the OT channel
[12:34] <k1l_> ravenx: just look at init systems, kernels, desktops, prop. code handling, ...
[12:35] <ravenx> cfhowlett: what is the Over Time channel?
[12:35] <cfhowlett> !ot | ravenx
[12:35] <mcdado> i installed sshguard on my server, is it enough or i need to configure it somehow?
[12:36] <cfhowlett> perhaps better asked in #ubuntu-server mcdado
[12:36] <mcdado> thks
[12:37] <radicate> Anyone here has experience with Vagrant / Docker?
[12:38] <ravenx> radicate: please continue this in the #docker #vagrant channel
[12:38] <radicate> ravenx: Sure.
[12:40] <wwwbukolaycom> hi
[12:42] <mcdado> i'm kinda new... i know there are the systemcrl and the service commands.. what is the basic difference and which one shall i stuck with?
[12:42] <mcdado> systemctl
[12:43] <k1l_> mcdado: since 15.04 ubuntu uses systemd which uses the systemctl commands
[12:43] <k1l_> mcdado: for 14.04 it uses upstart, which uses the service commands
[12:44] <mcdado> thanks
[12:44] <mcdado> service comes from sysv init right?
[12:45] <EriC^^> upstart
[12:45] <mcdado> cause i remember seeing it in centos years ago
[12:45] <EriC^^> sysv was more /etc/init.d/.. start stuff i think
[12:45] <k1l_> mcdado: there are several different init systems. i told you which 2 ubuntu uses depending on the version
[12:45] <mcdado> k1l thanks, i was just wondering ;)
[12:46] <mcdado> cause i know upstart is from canonical
[12:46] <mcdado> and was wondering why the service was used (as i remember it) on other distros
[12:47] <k1l_> because upstart was there to replace sysvinit. but now even upstart got replaced by systemd.
[12:49] <mcdado> i see, so upstart was adopted by centos at some point..  i didn't know
[12:50] <mcdado> :thumbs-up:
[13:08] <cpama> hi there. i tried to install mongodb on 15.04 but wasn't able to get it up and running.  I was following the article / post found here:  http://askubuntu.com/questions/724749/install-mongo-3-2-on-ubuntu-15-10 .
[13:08] <k1l_> is chromium missing a maintainer now? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/chromium-browser/+bug/1573685
[13:08] <cpama> Now I want to remove it
[13:08] <cpama> but i'm having trouble with that too.
[13:08] <k1l_> cpama: what output gives you "lsb_release -d"?
[13:08] <cpama> k1l_, checking...
[13:09] <cpama> jlee@jllinuxdev:/$ lsb_release -d
[13:09] <cpama> Description:	Ubuntu 15.10
[13:09] <cpama> jlee@jllinuxdev:/$
[13:09] <ramrebol> Hi. I have the following problem: I can launch paraview (a plot program installed from ubuntu soft), but I can't run paraview from terminal. If I wrote '> paraview' the output is: /usr/lib/paraview/paraview: symbol lookup error: /usr/lib/libmpi_cxx.so.1: undefined symbol: ompi_mpi_real . How can I fix this, or why happen?
[13:09] <k1l_> cpama: so you are on 15.10 now
[13:10] <cpama> ok .  i've set up mongo on a 14.x server and it's running fine.
[13:10] <cpama> but on this box, whenever I try to do apk update / upgrade I get mongo db errros
[13:10] <cpama> so i want to remove it
[13:10] <cpama> this is what the error is:
[13:10] <cpama> jlee@jllinuxdev:/$ sudo apt remove mongodb-org
[13:10] <EriC^^> !paste | cpama
[13:10] <k1l_> cpama: can you put the command and output to "paste.ubuntu.com"?
[13:10] <cpama> yes of course.  sorry about that...
[13:11] <cpama> k1l_, http://pastebin.com/rtvs0TAg
[13:13] <k1l_> cpama: sudo dpkg --remove --force-remove-reinstreq mongodb-org-server
[13:14] <cpama> k1l_, http://pastebin.com/tfw8sczj
[13:15] <BlackVenom> Hey folks
[13:15] <BlackVenom> Does anyone know what exit code 203 is please?
[13:15] <BlackVenom> http://paste.ubuntu.com/16360674/
[13:15] <k1l_> cpama: looks like that package is really a mess
[13:15] <cpama> :/
[13:16] <cpama> it's preventing me from installing / upgrading other packages on my box
[13:16] <k1l_> cpama: try sudo apt-get -f install
[13:16] <joaquin_> hi, when i run this command  matches both regex regardless the flag -v      zgrep -v -E -h "Site:\s[^,]+,Server:\s[^,]+,"  *.gz | zgrep -E -h ",The\smanagement\sserver|,The\sclient" *.gz
[13:16] <BrAsS_mOnKeY> anyone recommend a Che
[13:16] <BrAsS_mOnKeY> cheap light laptop?
[13:17] <cpama> k1l_, http://pastebin.com/XUewwigv
[13:17] <cpama> still unhappy
[13:18] <OerHeks> BlackVenom,  error code 203 indicates a failure to allocate memory for the decode operation.
[13:18] <k1l_> cpama: it is loooking for upstart while 15.10 uses systemd
[13:18] <BlackVenom> OerHeks so a lack of RAM?
[13:19] <somebear> .leave
[13:20] <cpama> k1l_, i don't really understand ... I'm not very familiar with stuff under the hood of linux
[13:20] <k1l_> cpama: sudo apt-get --reinstall install mongodb
[13:21] <ramrebol> Hi. I have the following problem: I can launch paraview (a plot program installed from ubuntu soft), but I need run this program from terminal, and when I try to run paraview from terminal wrtting '> paraview' the output is: /usr/lib/paraview/paraview: symbol lookup error: /usr/lib/libmpi_cxx.so.1: undefined symbol: ompi_mpi_real . The rare, is that if I try to run '> sudo paraview' works without
[13:21] <cpama> k1l_, is reinstall really an option?
[13:21] <ramrebol> problem. How can I fix this, or why happen?
[13:21] <tooryasnm> can someone help me with conky script?
[13:21] <OerHeks> BlackVenom, maybe, or a runaway process
[13:21] <cpama> k1l_, i don't see that as an option.
[13:22] <OerHeks> Black it is hard to find docs about that code, i think it is app dependent
[13:22] <BlackVenom> Hmmmm I have 758MB of free RAM atm
[13:22] <k1l_> cpama: yes it is
[13:22] <somebear> ./leave
[13:22] <HackerII>  /
[13:23] <DarekDeo> Hi, any amd users here with hybrid Intel/AMD gpu? Could use some help or suggestions.
[13:23] <cpama> k1l_, my bad.  I forgot the "install" after "reinstall". here are the results: http://pastebin.com/FNGwGKn1
[13:24] <ramrebol> DarekDeo: I use nvidia hybrid gpu. Don't work fine :/
[13:25] <OerHeks> BlackVenom, maybe this old post 2015 is any help http://discuss.flexget.com/t/creating-a-systemd-service-for-flexget-is-failing/1238
[13:25] <OerHeks> last post says it helped ..
[13:25] <DarekDeo> ramrebol: I used hybrid propietary drivers till today when I installed sane drivers for printer, which created another /usr/lib64/ folder, now when I reboot amd propietary drivers are trying to use that folder instead of default /usr/lib and drivers simply do not load
[13:27] <k1l_> cpama: dpkg --configure mongodb-org-server
[13:27] <mrasker> hello. I installed ubuntu 16.04 in my netbook asus eeepc 1011px and i have no sond. I googled but couln't find a solution. Only people with the same problem.
[13:27] <k1l_> cpama: if that doesnt work at an additional "--force-depends"
[13:28] <DarekDeo> ramrebol: I could move the libs from lib folder to lib64 folder to make it work again I believe, earlier I've tried creating symlink but due to permission issues it did not work. But that's not the case, actually I am using now opensource drivers and only Intel GPU is working and the performance is waaaay better.
[13:28] <DarekDeo> ramrebol: I wonder if it is possible to run AMD gpu on opensource drivers too.
[13:28] <cpama> k1l_, http://pastebin.com/z07bxEGK
[13:28] <cpama> both attempts failed
[13:28] <cpama> k1l_, sorry for all the trouble .  :/
[13:29] <compdoc> it says the package is in an inconsistant state
[13:29] <compdoc> not your system
[13:30] <k1l_> its a 14.04 package looking for upstart/sysvinit which is not there anymore on 15.10
[13:31] <knob> Question: Where can I make a suggestion to improve the "searching" of the Ubuntu Software Center application?
[13:31] <k1l_> cpama: since all the commands fail the last resort i can think of is: removing the install scripts manually so the install just marks it as installed and will rmeove it.
[13:31] <knob> If I search for "dice"... a couple of things come up.   Yet if I search for "virtual dice", something completely new comes up.
[13:31] <OerHeks> knob, the new softwarecenter only show gui apps, like the previous one, install synaptic, detailed softwarecenter
[13:32] <k1l_> cpama: remove the /var/lib/dpkg/info/mongodb-org-server* files. then run "sudo apt-get purge mongodb"
[13:32] <OerHeks> !info synaptic
[13:32] <cpama> ok
[13:32] <knob> OerHeks, ooohh... didn't know that!  Thank you!
[13:33] <cpama> k1l_, http://pastebin.com/t3K457Di
[13:34] <k1l_> cpama: try the reinstall of the package
[13:34] <cpama> k1l_,  sudo apt-get --reinstall install mongodb ?
[13:35] <k1l_> yes
[13:35] <cpama> k1l_, http://pastebin.com/S8CeM0d7
[13:37] <k1l_> cpama: try a "sudo dpkg --remove --force-remove-reinstreq packagename" again now once the files are removed
[13:37] <xoke> anybody set up pptpd
[13:38] <cpama> k1l_, http://pastebin.com/KYQHR3vS.  I think it's happier?
[13:38] <k1l_> cpama: aha, that is something
[13:38] <cpama> finally something postive right?
[13:38] <cpama> :)
[13:39] <k1l_> cpama: not please a "sudo apt purge mongo-thingy-metapackage"  i forgot the proper name
[13:39] <k1l_> *now please
[13:39] <k1l_> after that run "sudo apt-get autoremove && sudo apt-get autoclean"
[13:40] <k1l_> then before you start installing stuff again remove the 3rd party repo in the /etc/apt/sources.list.d/ folder
[13:41] <cpama> k1l_, http://pastebin.com/fFKZ2gWr
[13:41] <cpama> i think we're good now right?
[13:41] <k1l_> yes
[13:41] <cpama> \0/ horay!!
[13:41] <cpama> thank you!
[13:41] <k1l_> np :)
[13:42] <cpama> and don't worry, i've already slapped myself on the wrist for trying that install
[13:42] <gtkm90> hello
[13:42] <gtkm90> i need tool develop website with my ubuntu
[13:43] <rahuldev> hi
[13:43] <shubham5252> hi
[13:43] <EriC^^> hi shubham5252
[13:43] <Ferendevelop> gtkm90: https://www.google.com/webdesigner/ like this?
[13:44] <OerHeks> !ide
[13:44] <OerHeks> the html factoid is old ...
[13:44] <OerHeks> !html
[13:45] <OerHeks> gtkm90, go for bluefish
[13:47] <lerner> I forgot what keys to press to lock my computer
[13:47] <HackerII> ctrl+alt+l
[13:48] <lerner> nope those dont work
[13:48] <k1l_> just super+l?
[13:48] <ramrebol> DarekDeo: I use only was sharing my experience. I use opensourse driver for Intel GPU and works fine. I tryed to use my nvidia, and I just could use it for run specifics programs. I don't know if it is the same with your AMD. But my next laptop will be without hybrid.
[13:48] <lerner> l < thats what I get pressing supr+l
[13:49] <k1l_> lerner: what ubuntu version and desktop is it?
[13:49] <ramrebol> DarekDeo: In summary: I don't have any idea ^-^
[13:49] <lerner> 16.04 xfce
[13:50] <DarekDeo> ramrebol it's hard to get laptop without hybrid gpu nowadays. :) fglrx and hybrid gpu for amd do work but not very very good. of course I do use prepared ISO for my laptop, maybe you could try to find prepared ISO for yours on ubuntu site, maybe that could fix your issue?
[13:50] <k1l_> lerner: look into settings -> keyboard -> application shortcuts -> xflock4 what you changed it to manually
[13:51] <DarekDeo> ramrebol for example, this is the ISO for my laptop: http://www.ubuntu.com/certification/hardware/201408-15450/
[13:51] <lerner> i dont remeber having changed it though
[13:52] <k1l_> lerner: if the standard shortcuts dont work you have changed it. take a look there and change it back to what you want
[13:53] <ramrebol> I rewrite my problem: I can launch paraview (a plot program installed from ubuntu soft), but I need run it from terminal. When I try to run paraview from terminal wrtting '> paraview' the output is: /usr/lib/paraview/paraview: symbol lookup error: /usr/lib/libmpi_cxx.so.1: undefined symbol: ompi_mpi_real . The rare, is that if I try to run '> sudo paraview' works without problem. How can I fix this, or
[13:53] <ramrebol> why happen?
[13:54] <ramrebol> DarekDeo: well, that laptop (DELL inspiron 7548) says that does not work with hybrid. I don't know any laptop where hybrid works fine.
[13:54] <ramrebol> (my laptop is inspiron too)
[13:55] <DarekDeo> remrebol it sayd "Hybrid suspend does not work on this system." means just suspend, but actually default suspend works perfectly.
[13:56] <lillo> hi from italy! i have a problem with ecryptfs .... can someone help me? thanks in advance
[13:56] <OerHeks> ramrebol, why run paraview from terminal? you see messages that are just system messages.
[13:56] <OerHeks> and don't run it as root
[13:57] <hateball> !help | lillo
[13:57] <lyze> !it | lillo
[13:58] <lillo>  im able to speak in english.... im not shakespear  ;)
[13:59] <MattJ100> Ubuntu 15.10. NetworkManager is putting my router's IP in resolv.conf, above 127.0.1.1 which means it's bypassing dnsmasq... which causes trouble with VPNs. Ideas? I thought only 127.0.1.1 should be in resolv.conf when dnsmasq is used.
[14:00] <ramrebol> OerHeks: I just run it as root to try to understand what happen. I don't want to run it as root. I run paraview from the terminal because it is much more comfortable, I always (in other ubuntu linux verions) I run paraview from terminal without any problem or warning. The problem is that don't want to run from terminal, just appear that output mesagge
[14:00] <lillo> hi! i have a problem with ecryptfs .... can someone help me? thanks in advance
[14:00] <ducasse> lillo: ask your question, then.
[14:00] <k1l_> lillo: the details will show if someone can help
[14:00] <OerHeks> ramrebol, well, answered then, just system messages, running from terminal keeps terminal busy
[14:01] <OerHeks> run it like paraview &  # to avoid a busy terminal
[14:01] <lillo> http://paste.ubuntu.com/16360791/ permesso negato means permission denied
[14:02] <ramrebol> OerHeks: running 'paraview &' appear exactly the same output message, and paraview don't run :/
[14:03] <OerHeks> ramrebol, strange, here it does fine
[14:03] <lillo> if i type  sudo ecryptfs-recover-private , the terminal give me find: "/run/user/1000/gvfs": permission denied
[14:04] <ramrebol> OerHeks: yea, it is strange, I always use paraview in that way, but now in ubuntu 16.04 I have this problem.
[14:04] <ramrebol> OerHeks: do you use paraview in ubuntu 16.04?
[14:04] <OerHeks> ramrebol, just installed it to see what is going on, no need for it myself
[14:04] <OerHeks> oh, i am still on 15.10 ..
[14:05] <mrasker> it seems to be a problem in alsamixer. there are therr headphone controls. two of them are low everytime i reboot
[14:05] <ramrebol> DarekDeo: when I buy a new laptop I will check that page. But you can bet that I never will buy an hybrid nvidia.
[14:06] <hateball> ramrebol: What seems to be the trouble?
[14:06] <ramrebol> OerHeks: thanks for install and test :)   and certenly, I had no problem in ubuntu 15.10
[14:06] <ducasse> lillo: try running it with the path to your encrypted directory
[14:07] <ramrebol> hateball: i have problem with paraview. Don't run from terminal, but it run from launch.
[14:08] <ramrebol> hateball: I can launch paraview (a plot program installed from ubuntu soft, ubuntu 16.04), but I need run it from terminal. When I try to run paraview from terminal wrtting '> paraview' the output is: /usr/lib/paraview/paraview: symbol lookup error: /usr/lib/libmpi_cxx.so.1: undefined symbol: ompi_mpi_real . The rare, is that if I try to run '> sudo paraview' works without problem.
[14:08] <ash_workz> so I follow instructions on Pinta's site for adding a ppa for trusty and now apt-get update is complaining about a gpg key
[14:08] <ash_workz> W: GPG error: http://ppa.launchpad.net trusty InRelease: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY BC3E0682A5A1D6B2
[14:08] <lillo> my encrypted directory is the "home" of my old ubuntu in my old hd, currently an external hd plugged by usb
[14:08] <lotuspsychje> ash_workz: why not install pinta from repos?
[14:08] <hateball> ramrebol: Oh, I meant with nvidia
[14:09] <ash_workz> lotuspsychje: "Software in default Ubuntu repository can be out of date. Pinta maintainers offer newer versions in software repository named PPA." -- this is true, I didn't get the latest Pinta version just by doing an apt-get update
[14:09] <ash_workz> (they added nodes in the new one)
[14:09] <lotuspsychje> !info pinta
[14:09] <ash_workz> (not really... "points" more like it)
[14:10] <lotuspsychje> !latest | ash_workz
[14:10] <ducasse> lillo: then give it that; 'sudo ecryptfs-recover-private /path/to/.ecryptfs' - read the man page for details.
[14:10] <ash_workz> lotuspsychje: right... so... what are you suggesting exactly
[14:10] <ash_workz> ?*
[14:10] <lotuspsychje> ash_workz: use package versions meant for your ubuntu version
[14:11] <sindre> Hi all. Anyone skilled with alsa/pulseaudio in here?
[14:11] <lotuspsychje> !details | sindre
[14:11] <ramrebol> hateball: aa, when I try to run cuda, I installed the proprietary nvidia driver. That works fine (about 2 years ago). But I can't use my nvidia for run my laptop (example: use hdmi) and the intel gpu works fine. So, the next laptop that I buy, I will not buy hybrid.
[14:11] <ash_workz> lotuspsychje: I thought adding the `trusty` ppa for Pinta _was_ meant for my version (because I'm on trusty)
[14:12] <purple007> ping
[14:12] <lotuspsychje> ash_workz: we dont support external ppa's here, use the trusty version from official repos
[14:12] <sindre> I am using a Sony Gold Wireless headset that support matrix surround. Meaning it can virtualize surround sound. I enabled 8 channels in pulseaudio and have successfully tested all channels in the headset. It works fine. However the rear channels are too low compared to front and I can not seem to find levels for any other channels than left/right
[14:12] <hateball> ramrebol: hmmm, everything should be fine with 364 driver from ppa. but if you can, avoiding optimus is wise :p
[14:13] <sindre> alsamixer shows the device as a single pcm channel
[14:13] <lillo> ducasse : http://paste.ubuntu.com/16362100/
[14:13] <lotuspsychje> sindre: could pavucontrol help?
[14:13] <sindre> lotuspsychje, it also shows it as two channels only
[14:13] <squinty> ramrebol,  fwiw, running 16.04 (up to date upgrades) and just installed and started (in a terminal) paraview without any problems.
[14:13] <ash_workz> lotuspsychje: -_-; wouldn't this be equivalent to installing a beta version of something?
[14:14] <ramrebol> the 364 driver is one that suggested in 'additional drivers'? because I proved all, and did not works
[14:14] <ducasse> lillo: you need to replace /path/to/.ecryptfs with the actual path to your encrypted directory
[14:14] <lillo> ducasse ok
[14:15] <lotuspsychje> ash_workz: if you play with ppa's, ask the maintainer of the ppa please, or post in their forum/bug
[14:15] <dars> help please
[14:15] <lotuspsychje> !details | dars
[14:15] <dars> i used a vga to HDMI cable to connect to pc from my laptop
[14:15] <FinalX> Hello! Running 16.04 for a while myself now, and rolling out some VM's at work, where we have our own package repository. It works fine with all other Debian and Ubuntu versions we have, with a client certificate, private key etc. But in 16.04, APT uses the user _apt to fetch the Releases and alike, which is not able to access /etc/ssl/private/ where the key resides.
[14:15] <lotuspsychje> sindre: tried a pulseaudio restart?
[14:15] <OerHeks> dars, just ask, wait and see
[14:15] <ramrebol> squinty: thanks!   I installed ubuntu 16.04 last week, and I had been installed several programs (and updates systems). But run paravier from termina never worked :/
[14:16] <lotuspsychje> !sound > sindre doublecheck here also
[14:16] <dars> the pc displays background screen only and nothing else
[14:16] <lexa> !ru
[14:16] <dars> ubottu help
[14:16] <FinalX> .. if I -as a test- chown the dir to _apt, it works fine. If I add _apt to a group that has read access to the dir, it still fails with apt-get, even though if I try manually as that user myself (cat on the files as that user, _apt)
[14:16] <lotuspsychje> dars: wich ubuntu version?
[14:16] <dars> 16.04
[14:16] <lotuspsychje> dars: can your pc handle unity specs?
[14:16] <dars> what ??
[14:17] <dars> unity specs meaning
[14:17] <lotuspsychje> dars: recent hardware or rather older?
[14:17] <dars> yes it handles
[14:17] <ramrebol> squinty: one more favor: which is the output of '> ls -l /usr/lib/libmpi_cxx.so.1' ?
[14:17] <dars> i only connected monitor to my laptop
[14:17] <lotuspsychje> dars: what kind of graphics card chipset do you have?
[14:17] <dars> using vga to hdmi
[14:17] <ducasse> dars: it probably gets configured as a second screen, try moving your mouse outside the borders of the first screen.
[14:17] <dars> graphic card -> nvidia 7100 GS
[14:18] <dars> cursor is not showing in monitor
[14:18] <lotuspsychje> dars: could try a xrandr --auto
[14:19] <dars> lotuspsychje, nothing happened
[14:19] <lotuspsychje> dars: clean install/upgrade?
[14:19] <donofrio> does anyone else run 16.04 and cannot find "powerpc-utils" from apt-cache search ;(
[14:19] <hhee> guys. how can i install .deb package in ubuntu, with dependencies resolving? sudo dpkg -i  .deb which else options i have to use?
[14:19] <dars> upgrade
[14:19] <lotuspsychje> dars: from wich ubuntu version?
[14:19] <squinty> ramrebol, ls -l /usr/lib/libmpi_cxx.so.1    lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 19 Feb 25 08:43 /usr/lib/libmpi_cxx.so.1 -> libmpi_cxx.so.1.1.3 [1]+  Done   paraview
[14:19] <MattJ100> Regarding my NetworkManager question: solved with `sudo resolvconf -d eth0.dhclient` - maybe I used dhclient manually at some point and it got left over
[14:19] <dars> 15.10
[14:19] <lotuspsychje> hhee: wich package are you trying to install?
[14:20] <ducasse> hhee: use gdebi
[14:20] <hhee> lotuspsychje, mysql-workbench-community-6.3.6-1ubu1510-amd64.deb
[14:20] <lotuspsychje> dars: this screen issue happened right after upgrade, or did it work at start?
[14:20] <dars> no this is the first time i tried to connect
[14:20] <donofrio> need to run nvsetvol 0 to turn off the reboot chime
[14:20] <bazhang> hhee, you need to get the deps
[14:20] <dars> i just purchased a vga to HDMI cable
[14:21] <dars> since my laptop has HDMI slot
[14:21] <squinty> hhee,  use gdebi (in repo's)  it checks for all dependancies before installing
[14:21] <dars> so only way to conenct my monitor
[14:21] <lotuspsychje> dars: oh ok, did you try to 'mirror' screens in settings?
[14:21] <dars> which setting ?
[14:21] <lillo> ducasse thank you! it works! :)
[14:21] <hhee> ducasse, squinty thx. i just thought ubuntu has smth like yum localinstall .rpm (which auto download and install deps)
[14:21] <lotuspsychje> dars: the screens settings
[14:22] <FinalX> ... I just found the answer to my own question, apt-get install ssl-cert; usermod -g 112 -G nogroup -a _apt; chown -R ssl-cert /etc/ssl/private; chmod -R u=rwX,g=rX,o= /etc/ssl/private
[14:22] <ducasse> lillo: you're welcome :)
[14:23] <lotuspsychje> !cookie | FinalX
[14:24] <dars> lotudpsychje , very very thanks
[14:24] <dars> u solved my problem
[14:24] <lotuspsychje> dars: work?
[14:24] <lotuspsychje> dars: have fun!
[14:24] <FinalX> Heh :) Just doesn't feel right, though, changing a system user so it can actually do what it's supposed to do :/ .. if anyone has better suggestions.. I'd love to hear them :)
[14:24] <lotuspsychje> !chmod | FinalX step around here :p
[14:25] <sindre> lotuspsychje, I have read through all of the links and they are not covering my problem. Alsa is working fine, so is pulseaudio. Only problem is that Ubuntu sound preferences only let me mix audio in R/L (no surround devices available for the soundcard), pavucontrol only see two channels, and alsamix see one pcm channel. However I am able to hear surround if I do "speaker-test -t wav -c 8". All I want is to set all channels to same volume level and I
[14:25] <sindre> can't figure out where to do it
[14:25] <ramrebol> squinty: it is the same output that I have. Well, I don't know what happens in my system, and I don't know how find a solution :(
[14:26] <FinalX> lotuspsychje: I *REALLY* don't need to know about permissions. APT has been changed in Ubuntu 16.04 to drop privileges to a new user, no longer being able to access information root was able to access, and changing a systme user's groups is a _really_ bad idea, especially if it's the primary group.
[14:27] <ducasse> FinalX: file a bug?
[14:27] <lotuspsychje> sindre: would this be usefull for you? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SurroundSound
[14:27] <FinalX> it's not really a documented chang, and imo /etc/ssl/private/ _is_ the place where the private keys should reside, and APT should open them _before_ dropping privs
[14:27] <FinalX> ducasse: yeah, thinking about it :)
[14:27] <denil> my wifi doesnt show up in my ubuntu when i plug in my wifi dongle into my lap but in windows it works fine
[14:28] <FinalX> meanwhile I think I'll put keys for APT in /etc/ssl/apt/ and chown that to _apt or something, but that kinda defeats the point of dropping privs in some regard
[14:29] <denil> any help???
[14:29] <MattJ100> denil: what dongle is it?
[14:29] <denil> ZTE
[14:30] <MattJ100> denil: do you have the exact model number? or a link to it or something?
[14:30] <denil> Model : AW3632
[14:30] <denil> @ MattJ100
[14:30] <denil> Model : AW3632
[14:30] <curlyears> Well, I've beenr sunning under Live-DVD 16.04 for about 24 hours now.  So far, everything looks fine.  Does anyone have any advice on whetheer I should up date now, of wait unntil July
[14:31] <sindre> lotuspsychje, that guide is what let me enable the surround in the first place :)
[14:31] <squinty> ramrebol,  just a thought   rename /home/$USER/.config/ParaView/ParaView5.0.1.ini to /home/$USER/.config/ParaView/ParaView5.0.1.ini_org   (to eliminate the chance of .ini corruption) and then restart paraview (it will generate a new .ini)
[14:31] <MattJ100> denil: when you plug it in, run 'lsusb' in your terminal, what does it say? (use a pastebin)
[14:31] <lotuspsychje> sindre: im out of ideas then, not the greatest sound wizard myself :p
[14:32] <denil> just a min
[14:32] <curlyears> s/sunning/running
[14:32] <sindre> lotuspsychje, I appreciate you trying. Normally I figure these things myself by using google.But this time around I haven't been able to find anything
[14:33] <denil> MattJ100 paste.ubuntu.com/16362549/
[14:33] <denil> here is the log
[14:33] <lotuspsychje> sindre: perhaps repeat a shortened version of what you really need to the channel, others might be able to help
[14:33] <denil> http://paste.ubuntu.com/16362549/
[14:34] <curlyears> does anyone know if a Samsung EVO850 250GB SSD work well under ubuntu?
[14:34] <lotuspsychje> curlyears: yes
[14:34] <curlyears> I ordered one yesterday, it'd be a drag to have to turn around and sell it
[14:34] <lyze> it works great imo c:
[14:34] <lotuspsychje> curlyears: make sure you set bios from IDE to AHCI and make a new clean install
[14:34] <curlyears> thanks guys
[14:34] <denil> MattJ100 : U there????
[14:34] <sindre> I have enabled surround on a headset and verified it works by using "speaker-test -t wav -c 8". Only problem is that ubuntu sound preferences only list stereo modes for the headset, pavucontrol only let me adjust level on two channels and alsamix only see one pcm stream. What I want to do is to set the sound level as the same for all surround channels (since audio tests reveal some of the channels are lower level than others)
[14:35] <dars> i am trying to use vga to HDMI converter to connect monitor to pi3 but nothing is appeaaring on screen '
[14:35] <dars>  I just purchased pi so this is the first time i tried to connect
[14:35] <curlyears> well, off I go to the land of failed booting
[14:35] <MattJ100> denil: yes, I'm here. Eating my lunch and researching your problem.
[14:35] <denil> hehe tyt :)
[14:36] <lotuspsychje> sindre: there is also a full channel of #alsa experts if that can help?
[14:36] <sindre> lotuspsychje, that is an excellent idea. I
[14:36] <sindre> will try there. Thanks :)
[14:37] <dars> lotuspsychje, can u solve my raspberry pi problem
[14:37] <lotuspsychje> !arm | dars
[14:38] <denil> MattJ100 brb I gotta to have a bath
[14:38] <MattJ100> denil: some more information that would be useful: 1) unplug the device 2) run 'tail -f /var/log/syslog' 3) plug the device 4) press Ctrl+C in the terminal 5) pastebin the output
[14:38] <denil> sure
[14:38] <denil> i will be disconnected from here for a min then
[14:38] <jair> is anyone using Telegram app for Ubuntu?
[14:38] <sindre> jair, I do
[14:38] <bazhang> !info telegram
[14:39] <bazhang> from where jair
[14:39] <jair> sindre: I did installed it from their web site, what about you?
[14:39] <lotuspsychje> jair: yes, its called telegram-desktop
[14:39] <tyrog> bazhang: https://launchpad.net/~atareao/+archive/ubuntu/telegram
[14:39] <lotuspsychje> jair: just unpack the archive to your /home
[14:39] <bazhang> PPA?
[14:40] <jair> bazhang: right, the issue I am having with it is that the client is not integrating very well with Xenial
[14:40] <jair> lotuspsychje: I did that I actually installed
[14:40] <bazhang> !info telegram-desktop
[14:40] <lotuspsychje> bazhang: its on the telegram website
[14:40] <jair> I am just trying to find out if there is a more integrated way to install it, it might recognize the toggle switch between Japanese and English
[14:40] <bazhang> jair, so contact the PPA maintainer/creator
[14:41] <denil> MattJ100
[14:41] <denil> http://paste.ubuntu.com/16362702/
[14:41] <jair> bazhang: I did not use the PPA
[14:41] <denil> here is it as u said
[14:41] <denil> http://paste.ubuntu.com/16362702/
[14:41] <MattJ100> Thanks
[14:41] <bazhang> jair you said website, thats the creator
[14:41] <denil> plzr :)
[14:41] <denil> will be back after a while :) gotta have a bath
[14:41] <ramrebol> squinty: thanks for the idea, but nothing change :(
[14:42] <jair> bazhang: I already submitted a bug issue via launchpad and also into the github telegram site
[14:42] <jair> but I am not sure if the version that gets installed using the PPA will have the same issue
[14:42] <jair> currently I have the version that it is selfcontained... from their website
[14:43] <jair> I found this: http://www.webupd8.org/2015/01/install-official-telegram-desktop-app.html
[14:43] <jair> I am not sure if give it a try
[14:44] <lotuspsychje> jair: its not an official ubuntu package yet, so follow the advice of bazhang
[14:45] <jair> lotuspsychje: to submit a bug to their website?
[14:45] <lotuspsychje> jair: yes
[14:46] <tim241> I have a problem
[14:46] <jair> lotuspsychje: I already did: https://github.com/telegramdesktop/tdesktop/issues/2013
[14:46] <tim241> I tried to burn a iso on my dvd but it I can find any solution?
[14:46] <tim241> ccant*
[14:46] <jair> bazhang: thank you! https://github.com/telegramdesktop/tdesktop/issues/2013
[14:47] <jair> I will wait then to see if they come out with a solution, this issue affected the 14.04 before and got fixed pretty quickly
[14:47] <jair> I have a laptop with 14.04 and another with 16.04
[14:47] <ducasse> tim241: what program did you burn with and what went wrong?
[14:48] <RealPanV> Hello, I have an Ubuntu VM and since this is my first time I want to ask some things. 1. This does not interfere with my computer's hard drive -at all-, right? So even if I fill it with junk or malicious programs they'll be gone when I delete it, or they can't infect my physical machine
[14:48] <ducasse> RealPanV: in theory, yes.
[14:48] <tim241> I just can burn it
[14:48] <tim241> and I have another problem if I run sudo apt-get update I get thiss error: http://pastebin.com/Wgg0SNHG
[14:49] <RealPanV> ducasse: If I press "Install Now" it won't do anything to my original OS, am I right? (95% sure about that)
[14:49] <RealPanV> tim241: would use paste.ubuntu.com
[14:49] <ducasse> RealPanV: no, it won'y
[14:49] <lotuspsychje> RealPanV: depends what you do, if you connect an infected usb to your vm, it could spread to your pc also in theory
[14:50] <squinty> ramrebol,  have you tried logging out and back in again?  (long shot but I have seen a couple of instances with 16.04 where this did work for other apts)
[14:50] <tim241> http://paste.ubuntu.com/16362945/
[14:50] <darran> Hello everyone
[14:51] <lotuspsychje> tim241: added external ppa's?
[14:51] <killa> hello everyone
[14:51] <ramrebol> squinty: I installed ubuntu last week (or 2 weeks ago) and I had rebooted several times (and remove and reinstall paraview) and the problem persists :/
[14:51] <tim241> no
[14:51] <ducasse> tim241: that warning comes from a ppa, so yes.
[14:51] <tim241> I did not any external ppa's
[14:52] <ducasse> tim241: someone did.
[14:52] <tim241> yes
[14:52] <killa> hello everyone
[14:52] <tim241> sorry xD
[14:52] <tim241> how to fix
[14:52] <tim241> ? I searched in the source.list but there was no ppa
[14:52] <killa> foké
[14:52] <ducasse> tim241: install ppa-purge
[14:52] <ramrebol> squinty: but I accept more ideas.  I do not have more ideas to find a solution :/
[14:52] <lotuspsychje> killa: do you have an ubuntu question?
[14:52] <tim241> how?
[14:52] <ducasse> tim241: apt-get install ppa-purge
[14:53] <ducasse> tim241: sudo apt-get install ppa-purge
[14:53] <tim241> I have it already installed
[14:53] <tim241> next step?
[14:53] <ducasse> tim241: sudo ppa-purge ppa:lithid/ppa
[14:54] <chand> hello every one.
[14:55] <chand> how can i change Date format from command?
[14:55] <tim241> http://paste.ubuntu.com/16363028/
[14:55] <judy> Hi everyone,I lost my ethernet connection after I performed an update on 14.04. Can someone help me get it back?
[14:55] <saurabh> judy, what update??
[14:56] <squinty> ramrebol,  do you get any kind of error message?   maybe also try using the full path to the binary when starting from terminal   /usr/bin/paraview
[14:56] <ducasse> tim241: see if there are any *.list files in /etc/apt/sources.list.d
[14:56] <judy> saurabh: I had an update come up through the update manager, so I installed it.
[14:56] <tim241> ok hold on
[14:56] <saurabh> judy, that shouldn't mess up your system
[14:57] <saurabh> judy, did you install any firewall or removed network manager
[14:57] <judy> saurabh: I know, but it did
[14:57] <judy> saurabh: no
[14:57] <saurabh> oh
[14:58] <ducasse> judy: was it a kernel upgrade, do you remember?
[14:58] <Welastevil> hi folks!
[14:59] <tim241> http://paste.ubuntu.com/16363126/
[14:59] <judy> ducasse: Yes, I tried starting up with the prior kernel, but still don't have a connection. I had to plug in a wireless usb
[14:59] <Welastevil> im having some issues after installing ubuntu at my alienware
[14:59] <Welastevil> battery down fastly
[15:00] <Welastevil> and overheating for no reason
[15:00] <lotuspsychje> !info laptop-mode-tools | Welastevil
[15:00] <Welastevil> coulf not find any info
[15:00] <lotuspsychje> Welastevil: wich ubuntu version?
[15:00] <Welastevil> 16
[15:00] <Welastevil> lts
[15:01] <lotuspsychje> Welastevil: could check your syslog, see if there any relevant errors or try a higher kernel to test
[15:01] <ducasse> judy: what kind of chipset did you originally use?
[15:01] <Welastevil> hum\
[15:01] <Welastevil> how to do it?\
[15:02] <ramrebol> squinty: the message is the same:  /usr/lib/paraview/paraview: symbol lookup error: /usr/lib/libmpi_cxx.so.1: undefined symbol: ompi_mpi_real
[15:02] <lotuspsychje> !mainline | Welastevil
[15:02] <lotuspsychje> Welastevil: could try a 4.6 or 4.8 perhaps
[15:02] <judy> ducasse: I'm sorry, I don't understand.
[15:02] <ramrebol> squinty: but, if I try to run paraview as root I have no problem
[15:03] <Welastevil> i see...but I dont understand...how to do it?
[15:03] <Welastevil> sorry my ignorance
[15:03] <ducasse> judy: do you know what kind of wired/wireless chipset you used before the usb adapter?
[15:03] <mrasker> does anybody know how to make alsamixer have certain volume everytime i reboot?
[15:04] <lotuspsychje> Welastevil: read the kernel wiki mate, its explained howto
[15:04] <Welastevil> ok!
[15:05] <lotuspsychje> Welastevil: did you have this problem on other ubuntu versions?
[15:05] <Welastevil> no
[15:05] <judy> ducasse: I'm sorry... It was whatever installed by default. If I check it, it says:  Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTL8111/8168/8411 PCI Express Gigabit Ethernet
[15:05] <Welastevil> even with this one
[15:05] <Welastevil> no problem
[15:05] <Welastevil> the problem is ubuntu+alienware
[15:05] <abolfazl123> hi. i have a x.sh file.when i want run it i should use a terminal.is it possible i have an icon for it?(i search in internet and i find chmod but i dont understatn it)
[15:06] <lotuspsychje> Welastevil: i mean did you have the battery drain problem on other ubuntu versions too?
[15:06] <ducasse> judy: can you see the wired interface in the output from 'ifconfig -a'?
[15:06] <Welastevil> no
[15:06] <judy> ducasse: but the weird part is, it says Kernel driver in use: r8169
[15:06] <Welastevil> and with this version also dont.
[15:06] <Welastevil> but with this version + alienware
[15:06] <fub> I just installed lubuntu 16.04. I am using a Alfa AWUS30H WLAN adapter. My connection sometimes suddenly drops and I cant reconnect. I have to disable my wireless connection and enable it again to get it working. What can I do now?
[15:06] <lotuspsychje> Welastevil: you mean on another pc?
[15:06] <hugo> Guys, i'm trying to run Autodocktools but I keep getting this error: http://paste.ubuntu.com/16363274/
[15:07] <Welastevil> yes
[15:07] <Welastevil> with all my other PCs it was ok!
[15:07] <judy> ducasse: http://paste.ubuntu.com/16363304/
[15:07] <lotuspsychje> Welastevil: ok try the higher kernel for test, if its not solved consider a new !bug
[15:07] <freeone3000> hugo: You need to install the oldnumeric python package.
[15:08] <hugo> freeone3000, how?
[15:08] <ducasse> judy: that's just the name of the kernel module, it has support for many different chipsets.
[15:08] <Welastevil> this problem is specially with this Alienware
[15:08] <tim241> here plz help http://paste.ubuntu.com/16363126/ <lotuspsychje>
[15:08] <abolfazl123> hi. i have a x.sh file.when i want run it i should use a terminal.is it possible i have an icon for it?(i search in internet and i find chmod but i dont understatn it)
[15:08] <judy> ducasse: OK
[15:08] <lotuspsychje> Welastevil: ok !bug
[15:08] <xan_IT> hi to all, with DE actually doesent requre hardware accelleration?
[15:08] <Welastevil> yes!
[15:08] <Welastevil> I ant to debug it...
[15:08] <xan_IT> *which
[15:08] <bazhang> xan_IT, lubuntu
[15:09] <xan_IT> mate?
[15:09] <bazhang> !lubuntu | xan_IT
[15:09] <lotuspsychje> tim241: i dont know how many ppa's you installed mate..remove all non-official ones please
[15:09] <curlears> hello again.  Can't boot again. Doggoned thing claims  "Partition doesn't exist," and dumps me into a grub shell, which doesn't appear to accept any input from kb
[15:09] <tim241> ok
[15:09] <xan_IT> mate or KDE require hardware accelleration? cinammon?
[15:09] <lyze_phone> abolfazl123 you can create a .desktop file ... which is a text file with some specific content. go to the ubu wiki to search how you create one c: )currently on my phone)
[15:09] <mrkelley> curlears - did you do a dist-upgrade?
[15:09] <lotuspsychje> tim241: after all ppa's are cleaned, sudo apt-get update
[15:09] <bazhang> xan_IT, 'lubuntu'
[15:10] <xan_IT> only LXDE?
[15:10] <tim241> so I need to remove all the files in that folder?
[15:10] <curlears> ubuntu Desktop 16.04 LTS, by the by
[15:10] <ducasse> judy: the wired interface is visible, all right. i'm curious if it would get an ip address if you connect it, but that might interfere with your wireless connection.
[15:10] <abolfazl123> lyze_phone:ok
[15:10] <curlears> nrkelley:    no, still Live-DVD booting.
[15:10] <lotuspsychje> !sources | tim241 check the official ones
[15:10] <xan_IT> xubuntu?
[15:10] <ducasse> judy: you could try creating an entry for it in /etc/network/interfaces and see if that works.
[15:11] <mrkelley> oh. Wow. I got that problem on a dist-upgrade.
[15:11] <curlears> How can I upgrade without .losing all my data and installed utilitiesd, etc.?
[15:11] <mrkelley> Never did find a solution, I just reinstalled.
[15:11] <lotuspsychje> !who | mrkelley
[15:11] <judy> ducasse: OK, I will try that. Thank you
[15:11] <ducasse> judy: do you need help with that?
[15:11] <mrkelley> curlears, for starters, keep /home on it's own partition.
[15:12] <mrkelley> ubottu - Sorry, I know better. Got in a hurry.
[15:12] <xan_IT> bazhang only lubuntu?
[15:13] <curlears> mrkelley: that will deal with my persobnal filesm but what about the installed apps and utilities?
[15:13] <mrkelley> curlears: as far as utilities are concerned, try keeping /usr on a separate partition as well. That will cover most of the user installed stuff.
[15:13] <mrkelley> There are config files in /etc, for those, I generally just keep a git repo of /etc on another box.
[15:13] <ducasse> curlears: check out apt-clone
[15:13] <curlears> hmmmm
[15:14] <curlears> any does cp have parameters to copy recursively throuigha tree?  I know I could just doa cp --help, but I am right here, may as well ask
[15:14] <RealPanV> It happened again .o.
[15:15] <mrkelley> curlears: cp -R
[15:15] <OerHeks> curlears, you type too much here, cp --help is much shorter and you would have the answer already > -R
[15:16] <judy> ducasse: I think I may be able to do it. I will let you know if that works
[15:16] <OerHeks> curlears, de-install lazyness please
[15:16] <OerHeks> :-D
[15:16] <ducasse> judy: ok, i have an example in a container that i can pastebin if you need it.
[15:17] <judy> ducasse: that would be great, thanks
[15:17] <Welastevil> sorry...hat is the site?
[15:17] <Welastevil> wiki kernel?
[15:17] <xan_IT> which DE actually does not requre hardware accelleration?
[15:18] <k1l_> xan_IT: xfce, lxde and mate, iirc.
[15:18] <HackerII> ^
[15:18] <squinty> ramrebol,  who owns /home/$USER/.config/ParaView   ls -l /home/$USER/.config/ParaView    it should be you and not root
[15:18] <xan_IT> k1l_ iirc??
[15:18] <donofrio> does anyone else run 16.04 and cannot find "nvsetvol" provided by "powerpc-utils" but I'm x86 ??
[15:18] <curlears> you're right, OerHeks
[15:18] <daed> xan_IT: if i recall correctly
[15:18] <ducasse> judy: http://paste.ubuntu.com/16363526/ - just save that as /etc/network/interfaces
[15:19] <xan_IT> daed ahahah
[15:19] <curlears> off to see what I can do  *sigh* this is getting real old
[15:19] <xan_IT> second question: which is simplest DE that not require hardware accelleration? mate?
[15:19] <judy> ducasse: Thank you!
[15:19] <daed> xan_IT: i'm a big fan of xfce, very simple
[15:20] <ducasse> judy: no problem :)
[15:20] <daed> xan_IT: have used xubuntu quite a bit without issue
[15:20] <xan_IT> i try lxde but is very hard. for example to configure wifi
[15:20] <HackerII> go 4 mate
[15:21] <xan_IT> mate vs cinammon vs xfce?
[15:21] <HackerII> i use mate
[15:21] <xan_IT> mate is near gnome 2 ?
[15:21] <ducasse> xan_IT: xfce is more of an integrated environment than lxde, but still lightweight.
[15:21] <judy> ducasse: do I overwrite the existing file?
[15:22] <judy> ducasse: I meant paste over the existing text
[15:22] <ducasse> judy: or just paste in the lines that contain 'eth0
[15:22] <ducasse> judy: or just paste in the lines that contain 'eth0', sorry.
[15:22] <xan_IT> HackerII which wifi configurator use mate? and xfce?
[15:23] <squinty> ramrebol,  there is the following if you are feeling adventurous   http://www.paraview.org/download/    sources and binary apparently available.   not really anything concrete turning up while googling either here but my google fu might be on vacation today :P
[15:23] <judy> ducasse: OK, will it require a restart, or can I restart the network manager manually?
[15:23] <HackerII> xan_IT:  i am old school, mate is easier for me
[15:23] <xan_IT> HackerII xfce is not for boys
 I deleted the whole folder is that good?
[15:23] <xan_IT> olso
[15:24] <lotuspsychje> tim241: i dont know wich ppa's you added and not sorry..
[15:24] <ducasse> judy: type 'sudo ifup eth0'. the interface is no longer managed by network manager, it just gets an ip address via dhcp on boot. very simple.
[15:24] <ramrebol> squinty: the output of  ls -l .config/ParaView/ParaView5.0.1.ini  is   -rw-rw-r-- 1 ramrebol ramrebol 7957 may 11 02:14 .config/ParaView/ParaView5.0.1.ini
[15:24] <HackerII> xan_IT:  if your hardware is up to date, you can almost run anything
[15:24] <tim241> so is that good? will it effect my PC?
[15:24] <lotuspsychje> tim241: check your software&sources and compare them with the official sources
[15:24] <judy> ducasse: Thank you. I will reboot, and let you know if it works
[15:24] <lotuspsychje> !sources > tim241
[15:24] <ducasse> judy: ok, hope it helps.
[15:25] <ramrebol> squinty: the binary of that page have not one propertie that I need (I tried ;)  )   and compiling the source was too for me :/
[15:25] <xan_IT> HackerII in normal pc i use gnome 3. but i have a hp 2133 with strage hardware that doesent have hardware accelleration
[15:25] <lotuspsychje> tim241: if you done it right, sudo apt-get update will run without errors
[15:25] <squinty> ramrebol,  yep that is the way it should be.  hmmm...strange.  can't really think of anything else off hand; maybe someone else may have other suggestions.  :(
[15:26] <HackerII> xan_IT:  then id use xfce on it
[15:26] <tim241> here is the add command I entered:  sudo ppa-purge ppa:long-jeremie/ppa^C
[15:26] <tim241> without the ^C
[15:26] <lotuspsychje> tim241: yeah good, clean them all out
[15:27] <ramrebol> squinty: thatks for your time and patience. May be I will back here in some days looking for the same answerd.
[15:27] <donofrio> anyone else know how I can get nvsetvol on x86?  so far all my installs were powerpc but this one is x86 http://apaste.info/upload/Wvq.jpg
[15:28] <judy> ducasse: That didn't work :(
[15:29] <squinty> ramrebol,  yw   hope you find a fix soon!
[15:29] <FManTropyx> answerd - daemon that gives answers
[15:30] <ducasse> judy: did the interface get an ip address?
[15:31] <judy> ducasse: no
[15:32] <Fusionnex> clear
[15:32] <ducasse> judy: weird. what ubuntu version is this?
[15:32] <judy> ducasse: 14.04
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[15:32] <lotuspsychje> tim241: remove all the ppa's that are non-official
[15:33] <tim241> Ow I see
[15:33] <lotuspsychje> tim241: dont remove the ubuntu ones right
[15:33] <tim241> deleted 2
[15:34] <OerHeks> tim241, deleting those entries does not reverse the packages
[15:34] <tim241> ik
[15:34] <OerHeks> use ppa-purge for that.
[15:35] <ducasse> judy: hmmm. if none of the kernels work then the problem is not with the driver. maybe there was an update to dhclient that broke something, but that would probably be noticed. let me have a look...
[15:35] <judy> ducasse: OK, thank you
[15:37] <ducasse> judy: sorry, can't find anything. this is really hard to debug without access to the machine :) did you look in the logs for error messages?
[15:38] <judy> ducasse: I'm not sure how to do that
[15:39] <lotuspsychje> judy: system up to date to latest?
[15:39] <judy> lotuspsychje: yes
[15:40] <Guest21963> %n
[15:40] <ducasse> judy: try rebooting without the wireless adapter, then after boot look in /var/log/syslog (and possibly /var/log/dmesg) for errors related to networking. if you find any, save them so you can pastebin them when you connect later.
[15:40] <lotuspsychje> judy: tried a sudo service network-manager restart ?
[15:41] <ducasse> judy: or post /var/log/syslog in it's entirety.
[15:41] <judy> ducass
[15:42] <judy> ducasse: OK
[15:42] <judy> lotuspsychje: Yes I tried that
[15:42] <denil> hi'
[15:43] <denil> MattJ100
[15:43] <denil> u there ????
[15:43] <denil> MattJ100 : got any solution??
[15:44] <denil> MattJ100 : u there :| ????
[15:45] <SwedeMike> denil: asking 3-4 times in 3 minutes is just annoying.
[15:46] <RealPanV> An.d.. he logged off
[15:46] <RealPanV> Or nevermind it
[15:46] <denil> SwedeMike then can u resolve my problem
[15:46] <RealPanV> denil: We are volunteers, not 24/7 support. Could you please wait becasue wea re not only in this chaT?
[15:46] <denil> i just dont wanted to lose the flow
[15:46] <RealPanV> since we have other jobs to do too?
[15:48] <heellp> heeeellp
[15:48] <RealPanV> denil: Please be patient, we can't know anything, we can't investigate everything in a small period of time.
[15:48] <heellp> i want to disable meta key binding
[15:49] <heellp> @RealPanV how do i disable meta key binding
[15:49] <OerHeks> denil, reask .. and don't leave for a bath
[15:49] <donofrio> anyone else know how I can get nvsetvol on x86?  so far all my installs were powerpc but this one is x86 http://apaste.info/upload/Wvq.jpg ??
[15:49] <heellp> @OerHeks how do i disable meta key binding
[15:50] <nacc> donofrio: why would you need nvsetvol on x86?
[15:50] <donofrio> because it turns off the reboot "chime" on my powerpc boxes
[15:50] <heellp> donofrio
[15:50] <donofrio> but I type nvsetvol 0 and then it goes quite
[15:50] <xico_colaco> boas
[15:50] <heellp> @donofrio how do i disable meta key binding
[15:50] <nacc> donofrio: right, so why would you need it on x86? or do you mean you need to run it on an x86 mac?
[15:50] <nacc> donofrio: you will probably have to compile it from source
[15:51] <somsip> heellp: dont random ask people for help. State your question than wait
[15:51] <donofrio> nacc because when you reboot it chimes
[15:51] <nacc> donofrio: it's part of the powerpc-utils package, which is almost certainly not built for x86 anywhere
[15:51] <heellp> ok sir @somsip
[15:51] <donofrio> how would I run/port?
[15:51] <MattJ100> denil: sorry, I don't have time to continue right now - I suggest you look at some links like https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/ZTE_MF110/MF190
[15:51] <MattJ100> denil: it's not exactly the same model, but yours looks like it might be behaving the same way
[15:52] <judy> ducasse: I got the log files, but paste.ubuntu.com isn't coming up for me. I can get on any other site but that
[15:52] <MattJ100> e.g. run eject /dev/sr1 and see if it starts working
[15:52] <RealPanV> Guys. I would repeat my sentences once in 5 minutes since nobody really likes flooding.
[15:53] <RealPanV> Just saying. (not backseat moderating)
[15:53] <nacc> donofrio: get the source for powerpc-utils and try and compile it
[15:53] <nacc> donofrio: or maybe there is a more intel way, i'm not sure if the intel macs have nvram like the powerpc ones did
[15:54] <judy> ducasse: Also, there were 2 log files. One was from yesterday, and one was from today. I wll paste them both when I can get into the paste site
[15:54] <ducasse> judy: post them wherever you can, pastebin.com or paste.debian.net for example.
[15:54] <judy> ducasse: OK
[15:55] <donofrio> nacc, yah was hoping for an intel way don't want to make make build unless I gotta....
[15:55] <nacc> donofrio: you might be better off asking in the mac specific channel, as it wouldn't be specific to ubuntu -- don't konw myself, seems like most people do it from osx and then boot back into linux
[15:55] <heellp> hello
[15:55] <heellp> how do i disable meta key binding
[15:56] <donofrio> nacc, ok thank you for thinking about it at least
[15:57] <judy> ducasse: This was from the 10th http://paste.ubuntu.com/16364447/
[15:58] <heellp> i like your paste
[15:59] <lotuspsychje> !ot | heellp
[16:00] <heellp> @ubtottu
[16:01] <heellp> im talking about changing binding of meta in ubuntu
[16:01] <heellp> i know it uses xkb configs but i tried but i failed
[16:01] <OerHeks> heellp, no option for that in systemsettings > keyboard
[16:01] <OerHeks> heellp, if you don't gen answer here, post it on askubuntu.com
[16:02] <OerHeks> c/gen/get
[16:03] <brunch875> I just followed the official guide to make and install opencv3. I had to pass a lot of -D flags after figuring out where stuff like python libraries were. After installing it, it was unable to open some formats like mp4
[16:03] <brunch875> And after that I just run cmake without passing any flags
[16:03] <brunch875> it figures all out on itself
[16:03] <brunch875> and no issues at all after the installation :s
[16:03] <lotuspsychje> judy: can you tell us whats behind driver= on the command sudo lshw -C network (from your ethernet card)
[16:04] <judy> lotuspsychje: I will check that now
[16:04] <judy> lotuspsychje: PCI (sysfs)
[16:05] <lotuspsychje> judy: just behind driver=
[16:05] <lotuspsychje> judy: should be at bottom
[16:05] <judy> lotuspsychje: when I ran sudo lshw -c network, that's what came up
[16:06] <lotuspsychje> judy: oh wait a little :p
[16:06] <mitech> :)
[16:08] <judy> lotuspsychje: for some reason, none of the paste sites are loading for me
[16:08] <OerHeks> paste.ubuntu.com too
[16:08] <OerHeks> ?
[16:09] <lotuspsychje> judy: you can try to disable ipv6 in eth0 in settings please?
[16:09] <judy> lotuspsychje: OK, I'll do that now
[16:10] <judy> lotuspsychje: OK, done
[16:10] <lotuspsychje> judy: was it checked?
[16:11] <lotuspsychje> judy: try a reboot and re-test your network card please
[16:11] <judy> lotuspsychje: I only have a wireless connection in settings
[16:11] <lotuspsychje> judy: oh thats not good
[16:11] <judy> lotuspsychje: eth0 is not showing at all
[16:12] <lotuspsychje> judy: nothing showed on driver= ?
[16:13] <judy> lotuspsychje: Yes, but I can't get any of the paste sites to come up. Can I send you a private message?
[16:13] <ducasse> judy: remove the eth0 entry in /etc/network/interfaces
[16:14] <lotuspsychje> judy: try paste.ubuntu.com
[16:14] <judy> lotuspsychje: I did
[16:14] <judy> ducasse: will do
[16:15] <ducasse> judy: that's why network manager didn't see that interface now, i just wanted to test it earlier.
[16:15] <mrasker> sound still not working. i'm going crazy. bye bye linux
[16:15] <denil> wifi dongle shows wifi when i close the lid but as soon as i open it it dont show wifi is there a  solution for this
[16:16] <k1l_> denil: reload the module used by that wifi chip.
[16:16] <denil> can u tell me how
[16:16] <denil> i m a noob
[16:16] <denil> kll_
[16:16] <k1l_> denil: its a common issue that on resume the hardware takes too long to be ready so the module is not loaded
[16:16] <denil> but even after so many hours its not loaded
[16:17] <OerHeks> denil, on encrypted ubuntu?
[16:18] <denil> u mean i have a pass for login?? @ 0erHeks
[16:18] <codepython777> how do i make my ubuntu box a wireless hotspot? I tried hotspotd, isnt working. The machine is a intel nuc.
[16:18] <k1l_> denil: "modprobe" is the command to do that
[16:18] <judy> lotuspsychje: I sent you a PM with the output
[16:19] <denil> denil@Denil-HP-Notebook:~$ modprobe modprobe: ERROR: missing parameters. See -h.
[16:19] <judy> ducasse: I deleted the eth0 line
[16:19] <denil> this is what i get
[16:19] <OerHeks> judy, you pasted from paste.ubuntu.com some time back, so you CAN use paste
[16:19] <k1l_> denil: you still need to name the module that wifi chip is using
[16:19] <denil> how can i know tht
[16:19] <k1l_> denil: "lsmod" lists all module in use
[16:20] <ducasse> judy: ok, can you see the wired interface in network manager now? you might need to restart it with 'sudo service networkmanager restart'
[16:20] <judy> OerHeks: I can't get into the site. After I pasted, it wouldn't let me back in
[16:21] <judy> ducasse: networkmanager: unrecognized service
[16:21] <Hulio> hi guys
[16:22] <ducasse> judy: sorry, network-manager
[16:24] <zain> hello! i'd like to install the gdal 2.1.0+dfsg-1~trusty1 package from https://launchpad.net/~ubuntugis/+archive/ubuntu/ubuntugis-testing onto my ubuntu 14.04 instance. i did add-apt-repository ppa:ubuntugis/ubuntugis-testing but gdal doesn't appear. what do i need to do?
[16:24] <squinty> zain,  you need to update your sources   sudo apt update    and then look for your file
[16:24] <ray_> hi,since this day I haven't sound on my ubuntu mate 16.04.Before it was good.on my w10 and linux mint it's ok.thank you for your answer
[16:25] <judy> ducasse: OK, only wireless came up
[16:25] <judy> ducasse: I mean after I ran the command, only the wireless connection came back up
[16:25] <zain> squinty: I did sudo apt update, but still nothing. also of note, i dont see anything about gis in /etc/apt/sources.list
[16:26] <StanislasP> Hi everybody
[16:26] <zain> ah, nevermind, it appeared. (facepalm)
[16:27] <zain> thanks squinty!
[16:27] <OerHeks> zain, next time, ppa's have their own instance under  /etc/apt/sources.list.d/
[16:27] <mitech> hallo :))
[16:27] <squinty> zain, ppa's are listed in  /etc/apt/sources.list.d
[16:27] <codepython777> I'm trying to create a hotspot on a Intel® Dual Band Wireless-AC 7265 - this is what is giving me trouble. Any suggestions on how to create a wifi-hotspot on ubuntu using this hardware? Or do I need to buy a usb -wifi dongle - if yes, which one?
[16:27] <zain> cool, good to know
[16:28] <judy> ducasse: I must have disconnected. I'm not sure if you wrote anything after I wrote my last response
[16:28] <squinty> zain, yw
[16:28] <ducasse> judy: can you see the interface if you right-click the network icon?
[16:28] <StanislasP> Did anyone can help me? I try this morning to install Ubuntu 16.04 lts on my work desktop but i have the error "ubi partman failed with exit code 10" I searhc  but I found nothing that can help me. My desktop http://www.fnac.com/PC-Asus-G11CD-FR022T/a9291028/w-4
[16:28] <ducasse> judy: try 'edit connections'
[16:28] <freeone3000> I'm having some trouble with ACLs - it looks like default acls are not inherited to fiels in the directory. https://gist.github.com/freeone3000/d76811c6be66165f9dbde2afb6311d5b
[16:29] <judy> ducasse: I don't see it if I with my connections. If I go into the connection editor, all that's there is the wireless connection
[16:29] <OerHeks> StanislasP, according to this post, http://askubuntu.com/questions/248500/ubi-partman-failed-with-exit-code-10-during-12-10-fresh-install your bios sata-controller is set to raid ?
[16:29] <OerHeks> set it to ahci
[16:30] <ducasse> judy: does 'ifconfig eth0' show anything?
[16:30] <OerHeks> ( or disable raid)
[16:30] <squinty> !sound | ray
[16:30] <judy> ducasse: yes
[16:30] <ducasse> judy: did you delete *both* eth0 lines from /etc/network/interfaces?
[16:31] <judy> ducasse: http://paste.ubuntu.com/16365311/
[16:31] <StanislasP> OerHeks: Nop I try the nodmraid but that don't change anything. When i try the  Try ubuntu before istall, I have only error on my screen.
[16:31] <ducasse> judy: /url 1
[16:31] <ducasse> judy: sorry
[16:31] <StanislasP> And i don't have raid (1 hdd of 1To
[16:31] <StanislasP> I juste hace the win10 installed by Asus
[16:32] <judy> ducasse: I only deleted the eth0
[16:32] <squinty> ray_, you can also look at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Audio/Alsamixer    to start alsamixer just type in a terminal   alsamixer
[16:33] <curlyears> weid, the BIOS startup starts, and gets to the point where it's going to look for DMI stuff, the it says "No such partition" and drops me into a grub (rescue) prompt
[16:34] <curlyears> s/weid/weird/
[16:34] <curlyears> anyobne have any idea what's going on?
[16:35] <nacc> curlyears: "it" being grub?
[16:35] <nacc> curlyears: in "it says"
[16:35] <ray_> Ok thank you ubottu and squinty, i try the test of sound prefernces right and left are good .in this case material is good. but i can't listen music or ubuntu sonor effect.
[16:35] <judy> ducasse: I'm sorry, what was the url 1?
[16:35] <ducasse> judy: there should be two lines with eth0 in them, you need to delete both. just ignore the url thingy, just a typo by me :)
[16:36] <judy> ducasse: there was only one line
[16:36] <curlyears> nacc: good question, it isn't clear who is issueing the message
[16:37] <nacc> curlyears: well if you're being dropped to a grub rescue prompt, then probably grub has loaded and the config file is incorrect
[16:37] <ducasse> judy: ok, so now there are two lines that say 'auto lo' and 'iface lo' and the rest are comments?
[16:37] <judy> ducasse: the other line that wasn't commented out was iface lo inet loopback
[16:37] <killall> Help. im on a fresh install of ubuntu 16.04 and i have several segmentation faults, tried several cd's (isos downloaded).
[16:38] <OerHeks> killall, so install went fine, and seg faults appear on the installed ubuntu?
[16:38] <curlyears> well, damn.   The config file was working fine yesterday morning, then aLL OF  sudden to rear panel USB ports stopped working for my KB nd mouse, and I couldn't reboot
[16:39] <killall> OerHeks:  yes :( tried several cd's several pens created and 3 diferent disks
[16:39] <curlyears> I was sitting here IRCing when it happened. I had to restart the system, with the KB and mouse plugged into the front USB ports
[16:39] <OerHeks> killall, unlikely the errors come from the iso, run fschk to scan your disks ..
[16:39] <judy> ducasse: should I delete the iface lo inet loopback line also?
[16:39] <killall> OerHeks:  before this install it was ok untill tons of my /home files (on a raid 10) got 0 bytes.
[16:40] <Rhonda> Hmm.  How do I debug why corosync doesn't start at bootup?  I don't see anything in the boot messages.  It's 12.04 with upstart from what I can tell, and I have no experience with upstart, frankly spoken.  :/
[16:40] <killall> OerHeks:  i have done a disk check using disks
[16:40] <ducasse> judy: no, that needs to be there.
[16:40] <judy> ducasse: OK
[16:41] <killall> OerHeks:  things like segfault at 7f6ea1110694 ip 00007f6e99cd8b38 sp 00007ffcb95d0640 error 4 in libapt-pkg.so.5.0.0[7f6e99bf1000+168000]
[16:41] <ducasse> judy: try 'nmcli dev show eth0' - does that give you any output?
[16:41] <nacc> curlyears: that sounds like a hardware issue?
[16:41] <curlyears> nCC:  UNRELIABLE hdd OPERATION?
[16:41] <curlyears> oops
[16:42] <ray_> thank you .probleme is solve.in preference sound ,there is not the good tag.hdmi is tag and not intern audio.
[16:42] <OerHeks> killall, perform a scan > mdadm --examine --scan
[16:42] <nacc> curlyears: your USB ports getting disabled, seems like instability
[16:42] <judy> ducasse: http://paste.ubuntu.com/16365620/
[16:42] <killall> OerHeks:  im not on raid at the moment but still got problems, the raid is for /home only
[16:43] <curlyears> nacc:  weird thing is, I plugged a USB thumb into one of the rear ports, it seems to work just fine, but the KB and mouse don't even light up
[16:43] <killall> OerHeks:  can it be ram problems?
[16:43] <nacc> curlyears: hrm, strange!
[16:43] <OerHeks> killall, yes, but check your / first
[16:44] <killall> OerHeks:  i have checked it using disks utility for extensive scan
[16:44] <ducasse> judy: i'm on a different version, the commands are obviously different. please post your /etc/network/interfaces, I suspect something might be screwed up there.
[16:44] <judy> ducasse: OK
[16:45] <killall> the live cd works fine :/
[16:45] <curlyears> judy, are sure thr "show" in thsat command line shouldn't be "--show?"
[16:45] <judy> ducas
[16:45] <judy> ducasse: http://paste.ubuntu.com/16365701/
[16:46] <judy> curlyears: ok
[16:46] <ducasse> judy: good, that's correct. is the interface still not listed in network manager?
[16:46] <killall> OerHeks: going to reboot thanks for the help
[16:47] <judy> ducasse: no
[16:47] <judy> ducasse: should I try restarting the network, or restart maybe?
[16:47] <ducasse> judy: try a full reboot, that will make sure everything is restarted.
[16:48] <judy> ducasse: When I ran the command you gave me before, with the correction that curlyears gave me, I got a different output. Did you need to see that?
[16:49] <curlyears> *shine*
[16:49] <judy> I will restart, and let you know
[16:50] <curlyears> what about the missing partotion on my hdd?  I can't get to grub2 in any way I can find to check out my paritions
[16:50] <lyze> curlyears, live cd?
[16:51] <lyze> boot into one, check if they are correct and not faulty, reinstall grub from there curlyears
[16:51] <curlyears> lyze:  how does livw-dvd give me gruib?   I don't want to chooses the install" option
[16:52] <lyze> curlyears, try ubuntu and chroot into your system then reinstall it
[16:52] <OerHeks> curlyears, usb issues, now sata/disk issues .. maybe a faulty mobo? new hardware break within a few weeks, or after 5 years ..
[16:52] <curlyears> grub isn't missing, lyze, the partition is missing, and I can't boot successfully without it
[16:52] <judy> ducasse: still not there :9
[16:52] <lyze> curlyears, but it's only grub, isn't it? Then boot into a live cd and see from there what#s happening c:
[16:53] <curlyears> OerHeks: yeah, but this hardware has been running fine since last August
[16:53] <curlyears> OK, off to try to look at my partition table
[16:53] <ducasse> judy: post the output from 'sudo nmcli dev --show'
[16:54] <curlyears> OerHeks: which is neither a few weeks or 5 years
[16:54] <curlyears> damn it all to heck!
[16:55] <judy> ducasse: http://paste.ubuntu.com/16365944/
[16:55] <ducasse> judy: try 'nmcli dev list'
[16:56] <curlyears> judy:  you have to replace "dev" with the names of an actual device, I thihnk
[16:56] <ducasse> curlyears: nmcli has changed a lot from 14.04 to 16.04, it seems :)
[16:57] <curlyears> wouldn't surprise me, ducasse
[16:57] <judy> ducasse: http://paste.ubuntu.com/16366001/
[16:57] <judy> curlyears: as in eth0?
[16:57] <jair> hello all, I am trying to install a newer kernel: http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/drm-intel-nightly/ but there is no amd64 listed there
[16:58] <jair> does anyone knows why? there is no 4.6 kernel ready for amd64?
[16:58] <nacc> jair: build is failing: http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/drm-intel-nightly/current/BUILD.LOG.amd64
[16:58] <jair> nacc: I see ^^ that make sense
[16:59] <ducasse> judy: nmcli can see it, right-click the network icon and choose 'edit connections'. there should be a 'wired' entry there.
[16:59] <kayes_> any idea if ubuntu 16.04 cd installer supports zfs? the RC didn't
[16:59] <jair> nacc: so for the time being just wait until there is a build
[16:59] <nacc> kayes_: what do you mean by "support"?
[16:59] <nacc> jair: right
[16:59] <jair> nacc: thank you sir
[16:59] <judy> ducasse: No connection there
[17:00] <judy> ducasse: I even tried to add a wired connection before. But that didn't work
[17:00] <nacc> jair: i'm guessing it's an upstream bug, but not sure
[17:00] <nacc> jair: as all the various mainline builds are failing on amd64
[17:00] <nacc> jair: i've asked in #ubuntu-devel
[17:00] <harkx> any recommendations on remote-desktop alike things for ubuntu 16.04 ? (not x2go or thinlinc, http://mutex.nz/blog/thinlinc-and-the-lsb/ )
[17:00] <ducasse> judy: well, the driver can see the card, but it can't get a link. we were discussing if this could be due to a firmware update, but we can't be sure...
[17:00] <kayes_> nacc there's a step where you ahve to select which partitions to use etc, is there an option to select zfs as root fs :D
[17:01] <jair> nacc: hmm and I should no try to install a version 4.6 for ubuntu 15.10 into 16.04
[17:01] <nacc> kayes_: no, zfs is not supported as root fs
[17:01] <jair> nacc: alright cool
[17:01] <lotuspsychje> judy: sure your system is fully up to date right? sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade ?
[17:01] <nacc> kayes_: there are blog workarounds to do it, but not officially supported
[17:01] <nacc> jair: i would not recommend mixing versions like that
[17:01] <jair> nacc: cool
[17:01] <judy> lotuspsychje: Yes, I made sure I checked before coming in here
[17:02] <akik> nacc: can you link to a zfs on root blog?
[17:02] <jair> nacc: I will be patient and see if the amd64 gets out then
[17:02] <akik> root on zfs
[17:03] <ducasse> kayes_: there is a guide to root on zfs on github, if you google you will find it, but it's not straightforward.
[17:03] <nacc> akik: --^
[17:03] <nacc> akik: it's from the zfsonlinux folks, iirc
[17:03] <jair> nacc: thank you for the help
[17:04] <ducasse> kayes_: https://github.com/zfsonlinux/pkg-zfs/wiki/HOWTO-install-Ubuntu-16.04-to-a-Native-ZFS-Root-Filesystem
[17:04] <kayes_> ducasse: thanks
[17:05] <judy> ducasse: lotuspsychje: Thank you both for helping me. I have to run. I think I'll just stick with the wireless dongle for now.
[17:05] <lotuspsychje> judy: ok good luck!
[17:05] <TerraBIT452> ich brauche hilfe
[17:05] <lotuspsychje> !de | TerraBIT452
[17:06] <TerraBIT452> danke!
[17:12] <altinu> Hi there, can anyone help me solve this issue with kernel remove http://pastebin.com/sLJQSQE5
[17:14] <michelle_68>  /join #linuxacademy
[17:15] <michelle_68> oops lol
[17:16] <OerHeks> altinu, on ubuntu, you can easily remove old kernels with apt-get autoremove
[17:17] <OerHeks> altinu, but you are on debian, no?
[17:18] <altinu> OerHeks:  no I just did an upgrade to 16.04 and it messed up my sysstem...
[17:18] <altinu> btw OerHeks yes I tried with autoremove
[17:18] <dschense> hi all. is there a way to recreate a deleted /var/log path ? i restored a proxmox CT and missed the /var/log directory. is there a way for all services to recreate their files an directorys ?
[17:19] <dschense> all other stuff is still there.. but all logs are missing and without logs most of the services are not runnung :(
[17:20] <Heebie> Hello, I'm trying to downgrade a set of packages (ubuntu-zfs)  by a version.  Management wants a specific version that is no longer available in the ppa repository.  I'm having an impossible time getting things to install in-order, or even to install at all. (modules won't compile etc..)  Does anyone know of a good guide for installing specific versions with their specific dependencies?
[17:20] <cabbage_hands> Hi, do you guys have any experience with Supervisord?
[17:20] <cabbage_hands> Is there a way to stop effectively everything started by Supervisord ?
[17:21] <MonkeyDust> !find supervisor
[17:27] <cabbage_hands> anyone? :(
[17:28] <MonkeyDust> cabbage_hands  is that a server? if yes, there's also #ubuntu-server
[17:33] <ducasse> Heebie: is this from the zfs-native ppa?
[17:33] <benlk> Is anyone here good with scanning problems? I can detect the printer/scanner (an HP all-in-one) and print to it, but not scan: https://gist.github.com/benlk/4edc3cfb01896c1d7880e26605065183
[17:35] <Edward___> Ubuntu 14.04 to 16.04 stuck at "remove conflicting ..." OS files. HELP
[17:35] <ducasse> !ltsupgrade | Edward___
[17:37] <Edward___> You know the Ubuntu site on 16.04 does NOT say that. Thanks.
[17:37] <Edward___> By....
[17:37] <ducasse> Edward___: the release notes do.
[17:38] <benlk> !scanning
[17:39] <ubuntien> hi
[17:39] <sayali2507> hello
[17:40] <arthar360> sayali2507, ubuntien What can we help you with?
[17:42] <lerner> I want to fit a pdf file (one page portrait style) into one page, landscape style, so it fits half the page... I hope that was understood
[17:42] <ubuntien> arthar360 nice to meet you
[17:43] <Heebie> ducasse: Yes, it's from that ppa.
[17:44] <Welastevil> hi folks... sorry, my connection felt
[17:44] <ducasse> Heebie: those are not really supported here, i suggest you tolk to the maintainers of it - those are the people most likely to be able to help you.
[17:44] <ducasse> Heebie: *talk
[17:45] <Welastevil> so...I'm havin problems (bug) with my UBUNTU+Alienware
[17:45] <dschense> nobody with idea to recreate all logfiles for all services?
[17:45] <Welastevil> battery draining and overheating by no reason
[17:45] <Welastevil> I realise that I need to debug it...
[17:46] <Welastevil> I googled about it many times, and no help was found
[17:46] <Welastevil> :(
[17:47] <nacc> dschense: what do you mean by recreate? you want to restore old contents? or you just mean you deleted the files and the corresponding service is failing to start because it can't find a logfile, or?
[17:47] <reisio> :)
[17:47] <reisio> ftfy
[17:47] <nacc> Welastevil: what version of ubuntu?
[17:48] <Heebie> ducasse: I know.. I'm talking to ubuntu-zfs people.. and they're not forthcoming on how to handle specific versioning, especially for things they've removed from their repos since they were installed. (I'm trying to match versions with a server installed in 2013.. it's what I've been instructed to do no matter how ludicrous it may sound.)
[17:48] <dschense> @nacc i restored a proxmox container with ubuntu running in it
[17:48] <Welastevil> tha last one
[17:48] <Welastevil> 16.04
[17:48] <dschense> --> /var/log was excluded but i already restored it
[17:49] <ducasse> Heebie: most people will probably tell you to install 16.04 where zfs is officially supported and move on :)
[17:50] <ducasse> Heebie: unless you have copies of the .deb files i think you may be out of luck. and even then you might need to avoid kernel updates.
[17:50] <nacc> dschense: ok ... sorry, need more details for what the problem actually is
[17:50] <Welastevil> ok
[17:50] <Welastevil> what you wanna know?
[17:50] <reisio> if you're installing right now, I'm not sure why you would entertain the idea of installing any version except 16.04...
[17:50] <Welastevil> the battery is draining fastly
[17:51] <dschense> its a proxmox CT with ubuntu with some servicec running. ajenti, nginx, fail2ban, courier, and some more
[17:51] <Welastevil>  and the pc overheats without any reason
[17:51] <Welastevil> it is all after installing ubuntu
[17:51] <Heebie> ducasse: I do have the .deb files.  The modules don't end up compiling etc.., and I can't figure out why.
[17:51] <MonkeyDust> Welastevil  install TLP, thermald and indicator-cpufreq
[17:51] <dschense> and i dont know all logfile names so i can not restore all by hand
[17:52] <reisio> Welastevil: is it a mac?
[17:52] <Welastevil> nope
[17:52] <Welastevil> it is an Alienware
[17:52] <ducasse> Heebie: same kernel also?
[17:52] <reisio> mmm
[17:52] <reisio> you got laptop-mode-tools installed?
[17:52] <Welastevil> no
[17:53] <Glorfindel> Could someone help me set up some swap space?
[17:53] <Welastevil> what does this laptop-mode-tools?
[17:53] <Heebie> ducasse: Yes, the same version of pretty much everything I can find that appears like it could be related.
[17:53] <reisio> Welastevil: among other things, it can improve battery usage
[17:54] <Heebie> kmod-mem is one of the things that gets complained about when building one of the dkms or spl modules, but I can't find anything relating to that at all.
[17:54] <Welastevil> k...I'll install it
[17:54] <Welastevil> one second
[17:54] <ducasse> Heebie: that *is* odd. in what way do they fail to compile - anything that stands out in the error messages from dkms?
[17:54] <nacc> dschense: sorry, i'm confused, you have a backup of /var/log and are restoring from that; why do you need to restore by hand?
[17:54] <Heebie> ducasse: Just the "missing" kmod-mem
[17:55] <GnomeKris> Any recommendations for a tweaks app for 14.04 using gdm
[17:55] <GnomeKris> ??
[17:55] <OerHeks> Glorfindel, pretty easy > https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SwapFaq#How_do_I_add_more_swap.3F
[17:56] <Welastevil> ok
[17:56] <Welastevil> installed
[17:56] <Welastevil> reisio, dont you think it is a bug problem?
[17:56] <Welastevil> or you think that I can correct the no reason overheating and battery drainage using this tools?
[17:57] <ducasse> Heebie: well, if the zfsonlinux people can't (or won't) help you, i'm not sure i can either. have you tried #ubuntu-server? someone there might have had similar issues in the past.
[17:57] <Glorfindel> OerHeks: thanks
[17:57] <OerHeks> Welastevil, which alienware? with an ATI gpu?
[17:57] <ducasse> Heebie: but ppa's aren't really supported there either :)
[17:57] <mrasker> I'll go back to 14.04. Everything works there
[17:57] <reisio> Welastevil: I think it's worth trying
[17:57] <Heebie> ducasse: I'll try there. Thanks. I didn't realise there was a separate "server" channel.
[17:58] <ducasse> Heebie: np, good luck.
[17:58] <mrasker> when will the support for 14.04 finish?
[17:58] <Welastevil> ok
[17:58] <Welastevil> downloaded! know....hw to run it?
[17:58] <akik> mrasker: did you try using pavucontrol to control your audio?
[17:58] <squinty> GnomeKris,  gnome-tweak-tool  in repo's.  ubuntu-tweak but the last time I checked, there was a version for 16.04 available yet
[17:59] <nacc> mrasker: 2019, iirc
[18:00] <squinty> mrasker,  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases
[18:00] <GnomeKris> I'm on 14.04, not 16.06
[18:00] <mrasker> i tryed everything, indeed i'm talking with the people of alsa and it sounds like a bug in ubuntu
[18:00] <Heebie> 16.06?
[18:00] <reisio> Welastevil: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PowerManagement/ReducedPower
[18:01] <Welastevil> yeah...but how to run the tools i just ask me to download?
[18:01] <akik> squinty: why does it say support for 14.04.3 ends in august 2016 ?
[18:01] <mrasker> hehe 2019 ill be enough. my laptop will be dead
[18:01] <nacc> akik: HWE stacks are only supported for limited times (iirc) but not sure
[18:01] <reisio> Welastevil: it says how on the page
[18:02] <reisio> Welastevil: mostly it is run merely by installation
[18:02] <GnomeKris> I jacked something up a few minutes ago when I started unity via terminal. I can no longer switch workspaces with shortcut keys, even after reboot.
[18:02] <reisio> Welastevil: although I would imagine a reboot (or general services restart) might be in order
[18:02] <OerHeks> akik point releases have limited support, you would have 14.04.4 by then
[18:02] <lerner> pdfmod doesnt work anymore: i try to get rid of the first page, it get rids of any other page
[18:02] <akik> so i'd need to stay in 14.04.1 to have support until 2019? doesn't make sense
[18:02] <lerner> what program can I use?
[18:02] <OerHeks> no, 14.04 totally gets support till '19
[18:03] <OerHeks> 14.04.1+2+3+4+5
[18:03] <akik> somebody needs to fix that page
[18:03] <Welastevil> ok! thanks a lot reisio))))
[18:03] <Welastevil> but about the overheating?
[18:03] <reisio> akik: your conclusion is a bit silly anyway
[18:03] <Welastevil> Im almost sure that it is a byg!
[18:03] <reisio> akik: you should really update far more frequently than once every 5 years
[18:03] <nacc> akik: this graph might help you a bit: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/LTSEnablementStack#Kernel.2FSupport.A14.04.x_Ubuntu_Kernel_Support
[18:04] <Welastevil> because it heats by no cause
[18:04] <reisio> Welastevil: technically anything less than perfection is a bug
[18:04] <nacc> akik: the HWE stacks are supported in line with the current LTS supports in a way
[18:04] <OerHeks> Welastevil, which alienware? with an ATI gpu?
[18:04] <akik> nacc: thanks
[18:04] <reisio> nacc: that link work?
[18:04] <nacc> akik: the above graph is kernel-only, but i think it sort of applies to others
[18:05] <squinty> GnomeKris,  you should be able find ubuntu tweak for 14.04.
[18:06] <Welastevil> m15
[18:06] <GnomeKris> I'm hunting now. I'm sure I'll find it. Thanks
[18:06] <nacc> reisio: yeah, i guess it's just at the bottom of the main LTSEnablementStack page
[18:06] <reisio> nacc: ... this? https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/LTSEnablementStack
[18:06] <nacc> reisio: yeah, down that page
[18:06] <OerHeks> Welastevil, ati HD5850 ..
[18:06] <OerHeks> Welastevil, i would go back to 14.04, and wait for the new ati drivers to be released, now you only have the opendrivers
[18:06] <reisio> nacc: that page loads for you?
[18:06] <nacc> reisio: yeah
[18:07] <Welastevil> i see
[18:07] <reisio> hrmmm, fixed with a hard refresh
[18:07] <reisio> oh reliability...
[18:07] <Welastevil> but the bug was with other versions as well
[18:07] <OerHeks> i hope with 16.04.1 they will be available
[18:08] <OerHeks> Welastevil, you will find this bug ( lack of ati drivers ) with ALL linux distros
[18:08] <squinty> fwiw, ubuntu tweak git site states:  This project is no longer under maintenance, and finally shut down completely Blog and the main station ubuntu-tweak.com , now inaccessible
[18:09] <MonkeyDust> squinty  i have ubuntu-tweak for 16.04, works normally
[18:09] <Welastevil> hum I see
[18:09] <Welastevil> and how to get these drivers?
[18:10] <squinty> MonkeyDust, ppa?
[18:11] <OerHeks> Welastevil, they will be presented by the driver tool, you can check it out, type driver in dash, and the tool shows up: you will be presented firmware for amd/intel/ wifi drivers and in the future ati drivers too
[18:11] <OerHeks> and Nvidia for others
[18:11] <Welastevil> yes I see
[18:11] <MonkeyDust> squinty  a .deb, with the very charming and inviting name "ubuntu-tweak_0.8.7-1~getdeb2~xenial_all"
[18:11] <Welastevil> about wifi and stuf Im not worried
[18:12] <OerHeks> Welastevil, but now resio showed you laptopmode tools, reboot to see if it makes a difference.
[18:12] <squinty> MonkeyDust, heh  very charming indeed!  thanks will take a look for it.  Guess it will be the last one.....
[18:12] <Welastevil> ok
[18:13] <Welastevil> I just installed tools
[18:13] <Welastevil> no need to run it?
[18:13] <Welastevil> just reboot?
[18:13] <reisio> try a reboot
[18:13] <dgadd523> anyone else have the problem chromium won't sync?
[18:13] <Welastevil> ok
[18:13] <OerHeks> nope, laptopmode toos are a plugin in systemsettings, powermanagment i think
[18:13] <Welastevil> just reboot or do something else before?
[18:13] <OerHeks> c/toos/tools
[18:16] <akik> on page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/LTSEnablementStack it says "The 14.04.2 and newer point release will ship with an updated kernel and X stack by default." is that the same as hwe stack?
[18:17] <MonkeyDust> squinty  i'll share it in dropbox, momebnt
[18:18] <reisio> hwe?
[18:18] <akik> hardware enablement
[18:18] <squinty> MonkeyDust,  already downloaded and installed.  thanks anyway...much appreciated
[18:18] <Seveas> akik: yes.
[18:18] <Seveas> the updated kernel and X stack are to support newer hardware
[18:18] <GnomeKris> My workspace switcher shortcut keys stopped working...wtf
[18:20] <uppperlio> hello
[18:21] <reisio> 'lo
[18:21] <Guest97230> holla yo soy brasileno
[18:21] <Welastevil> no changes after reboot :(
[18:21] <Welastevil> eu tambem
[18:21] <Welastevil> hahahah
[18:21] <uppperlio> i have ubuntu 14 will i need to reinstall it after 5 years after it's expiry, So how do i manage a server
[18:21] <Guest97230> kk
[18:21] <Guest97230> como eu entro em um canal
[18:21] <Welastevil> voce ja esta em um canal
[18:21] <uppperlio> can i update 14 to ubuntu 16??
[18:21] <Guest97230> kk sei
[18:22] <uppperlio> hey talk english
[18:22] <Welastevil> faz assim: /join #nome do canal
[18:22] <squinty> !br
[18:22] <Welastevil> sorry
[18:22] <Welastevil> that guy is also from Brasil
[18:22] <Welastevil> so...I rebooted it...no changes...
[18:22] <uppperlio> can i update 14 to ubuntu 16??
[18:22] <Welastevil> what is the other way to use the tools?
[18:23] <uppperlio> i have a server, so do i need to reinstall ubuntu every 6 months?? or 5 years?? for my server
[18:23] <Guest97230> join#ubuntu-br
[18:24] <uppperlio> this is the official channel,so you go to brasil channel
[18:25] <sindre> I bought a TP-Link AC450 usb network card. It has usb id 2357:0105. Does anyone know about a working driver for it?
[18:25] <OerHeks> uppperlio, update daily, and reinstall is not nessasary, if you keep the LTS release.
[18:25] <squinty> !lts | uppperlio
[18:25] <craptalk> i have 2Gb of RAM and Core 2 Duo chip processor, which one of linux distro that can be very light so that mine can run smoothly?
[18:25] <uppperlio> so after 5 years? what are my options?
[18:26] <nacc> !ltsupgrade | upperlio
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[18:27] <craptalk> i am desperate of knowing it, cause i was running mate and it was so much slow
[18:27] <OerHeks> MadHatter42, please don't spam, even for your opensource project, thanks.
[18:27] <HetroErectus> craptalk: try lubuntu
[18:27] <squinty> craptalk, lubuntu
[18:27] <HetroErectus> craptalk: if that wont work, slitaz
[18:28] <craptalk> HetroErectus: is good?
[18:28] <MadHatter42> OerHeks, sorry
[18:28] <unbalancedparen> when i start cassandra it does not start. i want to debug it. i do service cassandra status and it appears as active (exited). where can i see the logs of the service
[18:28] <MadHatter42> OerHeks, its not that i'm gaining money or anything from it, i just hope it comes in handy to someone
[18:28] <LtL> win 1
[18:28] <squinty> unbalancedparen,  most logs are in /var/log
[18:28] <OerHeks> MadHatter42, try #ubuntu-offtopic or -discuss ..
[18:28] <MadHatter42> thnx
[18:28] <OerHeks> :-)
[18:29] <HetroErectus> dont know, but i found it odd a computer like that ran mate so slow
[18:29] <HetroErectus> however, lubuntu is even lighter so yeah, try that
[18:29] <HetroErectus> slitaz is even lighter than lubuntu
[18:29] <uppperlio> ubottu can i run my server more than 5 years?? after that will it ask for update or do i need a reinstall??
[18:29] <unbalancedparen> squinty: so, logs of services are stored in var log like if i started the app via the shell?
[18:29] <ygorl> MadHatter42: i like your explanation of vmstat
[18:29] <HetroErectus> but slitaz is extremely basic ... lubuntu has what you need
[18:29] <uppperlio> squinty: can i run my server more than 5 years?? after that will it ask for update or do i need a reinstall??
[18:29] <unbalancedparen> squinty: i thought that in ubuntu logs of services were stored somewhere else
[18:29] <ygorl> in 5 years your server will be dead
[18:30] <OerHeks> uppperlio, i would reinstall after 5 years, but you don't need to. distro upgrade will do.
[18:30] <Welastevil> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/PowerManagement/ThermalIssues
[18:30] <Welastevil> take a look in it!
[18:30] <MadHatter42> ygorl, thanks
[18:30] <squinty> uppperlio,  lts to lts will be offered as upgrade
[18:30] <ygorl> MadHatter42: im kidding. its empty?
[18:30] <HetroErectus> craptalk: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1a_Zy43CZBk <- lubuntu
[18:30] <MadHatter42> ygorl, sorry
[18:31] <uppperlio> squinty apt-get dist-upgrade? will that work? or do i need some other way??
[18:31] <HetroErectus> craptalk: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FT9nu0BVLNQ <- slitaz
[18:31] <HetroErectus> oh...
[18:31] <HetroErectus> 1 more ... crunchbang plusplus
[18:31] <squinty> !upgrade | uppperlio
[18:31] <MadHatter42> if there are empty files or you think something should be adjusted feel free to adjust if you like
[18:32] <HetroErectus> craptalk: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7vJRWdoHfP8 <- crunchbang plusplus ... also extremely light and a condenter to lubuntu
[18:32] <ygorl> MadHatter42: oh i dont care, i just figured you forgot to fill it in.  carry on!
[18:33] <squinty> HetroErectus,  this is the ubuntu support channel....not the recommend every other os channel.  #ubuntu-offtopic would be more appropriate
[18:33] <HetroErectus> ok
[18:34] <sindre> I could use some help installing mt7610 with new usb id
[18:34] <sindre> any takers?
[18:34] <MonkeyDust> sindre  what's mt7610
[18:39] <OerHeks> installing mt7610 with new usb id ???
[18:39] <OerHeks> what is the original usb id? searched for driver/solutions?
[18:40] <sindre> MonkeyDust, chipset for wlan
[18:40] <sindre> OerHeks, I have a device that has a usb id is not in the drivers
[18:40] <uppperlio> End-of-life releases are versions of Ubuntu From 13.04 to 13.10. so will ubuntu 14 go dead in 2019??
[18:40] <squinty> https://wikidevi.com/wiki/MediaTek_MT7610U
[18:40] <sindre> so I need to add that usb id to the existing drivers
[18:41] <MonkeyDust> !eol | uppperlio
[18:41] <OerHeks> mt7610 could be rt2800 or 2810 or whatever .. no clue
[18:41] <OerHeks> sindre, does the driver tool give any?
[18:41] <GnomeKris> Ever since I ran "unity" in terminal, and had to reboot to stop it, my workspace switcher shortcuts don't work. That's the only thing still broken, and it almost makes it unusable.
[18:41] <OerHeks> ( type driver in dash, tool should show up )
[18:41] <bekks> sindre: is your particular device supported by your desired driver?
[18:42] <sindre> squinty, mine: ID 2357:0105
[18:42] <GnomeKris> I forgot the command needed to switch display managers
[18:43] <OerHeks> sindre, rasp pi 1?
[18:43] <nacc> reisio: i see maybe what you saw, i'm now getting 500s from the wiki
[18:43] <reisio> GnomeKris: dpkg-reconfigure foodm
[18:43] <sindre> OerHeks, ubuntu mate
[18:43] <reisio> nacc: mine went away after a few minutes and a hard refresh
[18:43] <GnomeKris> thanks reisio
[18:43] <bekks> sindre: Ubuntu Mate on a RPI?
[18:43] <reisio> nacc: some server side caching issue, perhaps
[18:44] <nacc> uppperlio: you've asked the same question several times; 14.04 is supported until 2019 as documented on the wiki. You will need to upgrade to the next LTS at some point in that window, and that 16.04 upgrade (for 14.04 users) won't be offered until 16.04.1 (sometime in July 2016).
[18:45] <sindre> bekks, according to some forums it is
[18:45] <sindre> and according to tp-link
[18:45] <chandwer> I created this thread and the end result is that I think I found a bug where Ubuntu doesn't use the correct DPI for displays, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2322645
[18:45] <bekks> sindre: Do you have an RPI? Are you trying to run Ubuntu Mate on it?
[18:45] <chandwer> does anyone know the correct place to report a bug like that?
[18:45] <sindre> bekks, no I don
[18:45] <sindre> have a laptop
[18:45] <squinty> !bugs
[18:46] <sindre> I am not trying to do something with a rpi. I have a lenovo z50-70 and need to use 5ghz
[18:46] <bekks> sindre: Whats the output of lsusb?
[18:47] <chandwer> squinty thanks, not sure what package this bug would belong to but I'll start there
[18:47] <sindre> bekks, Bus 001 Device 012: ID 2357:0105
[18:48] <bekks> sindre: So how do you know it is a MT7610?
[18:48] <nacc> chandwer: you might try: http://blog.jamiek.it/2015/04/manually-fixing-multiple-screens-with.html (i'm about to as well, as i have the same issue :)
[18:49] <GnomeKris> WHY CAN'T I GET MY SHORTCUT KEYS WORKING?!?!?!?!?!
[18:49] <nacc> chandwer: fwiw, i don't think this is a "solved" problem in any upstream project
[18:49] <GnomeKris> okay, I'm okay now. Just had to get that out. sorry
[18:49] <sindre> bekks, http://www.tp-link.com/en/download/Archer-T1U.html#Driver
[18:49] <chandwer> nacc: thanks, I'll check that out. Still a bug though.
[18:49] <tumbler> hot to add battery level applet in Cinnamon???
[18:50] <chandwer> nacc: what do you mean by that?
[18:50] <OerHeks> http://www.mediatek.com/en/downloads1/downloads/mt7601u-usb/
[18:50] <sindre> mt7645u
[18:50] <OerHeks> mt = mediatec
[18:50] <sindre> according to official driver
[18:50] <dschense> sorry, i still have the problem with missing log files in /var/log many services are not starting :( this is a list of installed services an with logfiles i have: http://pastebin.com/egsF65ra  hope anybody can help me to recreate the needet files and directorys
[18:51] <OerHeks> dschense, did you remove them manually?
[18:52] <backbox> ?
[18:52] <bekks> sindre: I dont see any reference on MT7610 there.
[18:52] <dschense> this i a proxmox container restore.. but the /var/log directory was excluded.. but it is already restored :(
[18:54] <OerHeks> dschense, no tool to restore logfiles, i think you need to reinstall that container.
[18:54] <bekks> dschense: The restore differs from the services configured in that container.
[18:54] <OerHeks> i know this answer is not what you want to read ..
[18:54] <bekks> dschense: And as I've already told in #ubuntu-de, you need to check every service and create every path/file the service is missing, manually.
[18:54] <dschense> the configs and everything else is still there.. but the files and directorys in /var/log are missing.
[18:55] <bekks> dschense: whatever was restored in /var/log differes from your configs.
[18:55] <dschense> i wanted to recreate all the path and files. but i dont know all the names for the logfiles the servives need
[18:56] <OerHeks> painfull lesson, to check how to backup.
[18:56] <bekks> dschense: You need to check every single service, and read/evaluate its error messages.
[18:56] <CacheMoney> so I have a bunch of differently named files, but the all have [!] at the end and then its extension
[18:56] <CacheMoney> how would I remove the [!] from all of those files
[18:57] <dschense> bekks but how to check the error without logs?
[18:57] <dschense> OerHeks, thats right. saw the exclude afte already restored
[18:57] <bekks> dschense: By starting each service, verbosely.
[18:58] <heap_> hi is there any ftp server with ubuntu server isos?
[18:58] <OerHeks> CacheMoney, maybe this example is any help http://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/154771/rename-hundreds-of-file-by-removing-last-few-characters where -7 is -1 for you
[18:58] <OerHeks> !iso
[18:58] <bekks> heap_: A lot of mirrors are listed on the official ubuntu homepage
[18:58] <bekks> !mirrors
[18:59] <dschense> bekks, how to do this with service command ?
[18:59] <MonkeyDust> CacheMoney  that's called 'bulk rename' o 'mass rename' http://askubuntu.com/questions/10607/what-mass-file-renaming-tools-are-available
[18:59] <OerHeks> heap lots of them .. what country?
[18:59] <bekks> dschense: Evaluate each service file, start the service manually, check its man page on how to run it interactively, check the message it will throw at you.
[19:00] <heap_> i cant see any of ftp for czech republic
[19:00] <heap_> ok i found it
[19:01] <heap_> ftp://mirror.vutbr.cz/ubuntu/archive/
[19:01] <heap_> but i have no idea where is the ubuntu-16.04-server-amd64.iso
[19:01] <xangua> ! Server
[19:02] <bekks> heap_: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+cdmirrors
[19:02] <xangua> Mmm :-/
[19:02] <Pici> heap_: http://mirror.vutbr.cz/ubuntu/releases/16.04/
[19:02] <tumbler> what command to view my DE version???
[19:02] <OerHeks> ftp://mirror.vutbr.cz/ubuntu/releases/xenial/
[19:03] <heap_> thanks
[19:03] <tumbler> none???
[19:04] <OerHeks> have fun!
[19:04] <jeffreylevesque> i can't run deban bc it says "DBAN finished with non-fatal errors. This is usually caused by disks with bad sectors".  Do you think it's because the disk is getting older, and it naturally accumulates bad sectors, or do you think i can download a utility, and hope it is software bad sectors that can be remediated?
[19:04] <GnomeKris> Would this command be a safe and effective way to reset gdm to default settings?
[19:04] <GnomeKris> sudo -u gdm gconftool-2 --recursive-unset /
[19:04] <MonkeyDust> tumbler  env | grep -i desktop_session
[19:04] <OerHeks> jeffreylevesque, sad to hear, but we only support ubuntu, join #debian please
[19:05] <ubuntu660> hello
[19:05] <OerHeks> bad sectors grow, so replace the disk
[19:05] <Guest97230> alguem e br aqui
[19:05] <Guest43252> Hi everyone>  I have a question about 12.04.5
[19:05] <MonkeyDust> !br
[19:06] <ubuntu660> hi
[19:06] <ubuntu660> i has a question
[19:07] <OerHeks> ubuntu660, ask, wait and see
[19:07] <Guest43252> why I am getting this error when doing apt-get update?  http://paste.ubuntu.com/16368477/
[19:08] <OerHeks> Guest43252, that mirror is out of sync, change it to main or other
[19:11] <Vogonite> wow, so many people. :)
[19:12] <ubuntu660> hello
[19:12] <ubuntu660> i has a question
[19:12] <MonkeyDust> ubuntu660  let's hear it, in one line
[19:13] <GnomeKris> \
[19:14] <Vogonite> I also have a question - if I may.
[19:15] <MonkeyDust> Vogonite  you too, ask your question in one line
[19:16] <Vogonite> I ran Boot Repair from a Linux Live USB to fix the boot of another live USB - and it wrote the GRUB on my sda (Windows MCAfee Whole Disk Encrypted drive.) - Any chance at all of recovery?
[19:16] <Vogonite> maybe this is the wrong forum... ;)
[19:16] <MonkeyDust> Vogonite  are you in ubuntu now?
[19:16] <Vogonite> yep.
[19:18] <Vogonite> I tried googling the solution but no luck...
[19:19] <giorgio> hello
[19:19] <ducasse> Vogonite: if the mcafee thingy stored anything crucial in those sectors, you are probably out of luck unless you have a backup.
[19:19] <bekks> Vogonite: Without a backup of the Windows MBR - noc chance, thanks to the disk encryption.
[19:19] <Budd> How can I get dnsmasq to cough up its upstream DNS servers? It seems nearly impossible to troubleshoot.
[19:20] <Vogonite> yeah thats what I thought. The backup sits with my company IT dept. They are going to shit bricks when they hear that I fiddled with their laptop but trying to run a live distro :(
[19:21] <Vogonite> I guess I will have to stuff the telephone directory down my trousers and face the music :(
[19:21] <giorgio> lol i'm sure if you explain to them what happened they will understand
[19:21] <Vogonite> I think its bad that Boot Repair's recommended option is to write directly to sda without giving one the option of selecting the drive.
[19:22] <de-facto> Vogonite maybe if they have a disk image they coudl send you the first few megabytes and you coudl write those over grub?
[19:22] <bekks> Vogonite: I strongly doubt they have backup of YOUR mbr.
[19:22] <akik> Vogonite: it might be possible to restore the mbr https://kc.mcafee.com/corporate/index?page=content&id=KB61022
[19:22] <akik> Vogonite: not sure if you have the same software
[19:22] <Vogonite> Thanks akik. I think there is a way to do it, but you need the Authorisation code and a disk which allows it to run.
[19:23] <Vogonite> either way, I dont think I will be able to fix it without involving corporate IT :O
[19:23] <bekks> Vogonite: Correct. You need their help.
[19:24] <Vogonite> which is what I was hoping to avoid. I am currently using Ubuntu 12.04 LTS on a 32GB SD card - and it works wonderfully. Unfortunately previous attempts messed with the sda HDD (which I had hoped to leave untouched in this whole process.)
[19:24] <wpgriggs> hey guys, I just installed ubuntu onto a surface pro 3, the touch cover trackpad is working but the keyboard isnt
[19:24] <wpgriggs> any ideas?
[19:24] <Vogonite> Thanks for the help guys!
[19:24] <Vogonite> Have a super evening/morning wheerever you are.
[19:27] <vlt> Hello. I get "The program 'firefox' received an X Window System error." several times a day which drives me totally crazy. Any idea what happens here and how to prevent it? https://bpaste.net/show/20fdf9ef21c2
[19:29] <bekks> vlt: can you pastebin "sudo apt update; sudo apt full-upgrade" please?
[19:49] <OerHeks>  
[19:52] <sstory> I just put 16.04 on a Dell Optiplex 745. It boots to initramfs busybox.  What does that mean? Bad install?
[19:52] <isomorphismes> Google Hangouts On Air is not detecting my microphone
[19:53] <Welastevil> thanks guys!
[19:53] <isomorphismes> and in the instructions here https://www.onlinemictest.com/microphone-settings/ubuntu it's showing an icon I don't have
[19:53] <ducasse> sstory: can you post the error messages?
[19:53] <isomorphismes> in the top right
[19:53] <sstory> ducasse: sorry.. Where would I find that?  /var/log/? or what?
[19:53] <Welastevil> this is the best channel ever! everytime I got here, I got help or at lest some good chat))))
[19:54] <ducasse> sstory: there should be errors before it drops you into busybox.
[19:54] <sstory> Would those show up if the ubuntu logo is showing--hiding the boot sequence messages?
[19:54] <Welastevil> I don't undestand why at macos channels people can not be cool as here
[19:54] <isomorphismes> how do I get that Sound menu from command line?
[19:55] <ducasse> sstory: no, remove 'splash quiet' from the grub line
[19:55] <GnomeKris> http://imgur.com/QBltnIC I want /dev/sda3 to be expanded to occupy /dev/sda1 in this gparted screenshot, but for some reason, the option is not available.
[19:56] <sstory> ducasse: excuse my ignorance, but does it come with grub preinstalled or do I need to install that? Or can I access grub.conf from this initramfs?
[19:56] <GnomeKris> Any ideas?
[19:57] <ducasse> sstory: no ignorance involved :) hold down left shift when it boots, it will give you the grub menu. press 'e', manouver down to the line that begins with 'linux'
[19:57] <sstory> ducasse: Thanks!
[19:57] <ducasse> sstory: then delete 'quiet splash' and press F10
[19:58] <sstory> ducasse: I'll look
[19:59] <OerHeks> GnomeKris, delete sda1 first, then you would see unallocated space.
[20:00] <OerHeks> select sda1, delete, then the green mark to start removal
[20:00] <GnomeKris> deleted.
[20:00] <GnomeKris> Still no option when resizing sda3
[20:00] <squinty> it's mounted
[20:00] <isomorphismes> found the Sound menu
[20:01] <isomorphismes> but now when I hit the "on" button on the microphone it will randomly / automatically shut off again
[20:01] <OerHeks> squinty +1 .. partition sda3 is still mounted.
[20:01] <OerHeks> GnomeKris, are you on a live iso?
[20:01] <GnomeKris> No, booted, but it's a secondary hdd for my steam games.
[20:01] <OerHeks> click partition, right mouse, unmount
[20:02] <vook> GnomeKris: I think you'd be better off rsyncing the contents of sda3 to sda1, then deleting sda3 and expanding sda1
[20:02] <GnomeKris> vook, Why?
[20:02] <GnomeKris> just for block numerical order?
[20:02] <isomorphismes> http://imgur.com/a/9mnrl
[20:02] <vook> are you expecting to just have sda3 then sda7?
[20:03] <vook> er, sda2 and sda5
[20:03] <GnomeKris> it currently has sda2 sda3 and sda5 (as swap space in sda2)
[20:03] <vook> yeah, I don't think you can just have sda2,sda3, and sda5 but no sda1.
[20:04] <GnomeKris> so keeping the numerical order is required then? maybe.
[20:04] <vook> yeah, it's required
[20:04] <isomorphismes> something like this http://askubuntu.com/questions/279407/how-to-disable-microphone-from-auto-adjusting-its-input-volume
[20:04] <OerHeks> no, not required
[20:04] <isomorphismes> but for hangouts on air, not skype
[20:04] <vook> not required per se, but messy
[20:04] <GnomeKris> so I'll rebuild sda1, then rsync.
[20:05] <sstory> ducasse:gave up waiting for root device;  missing modules cat /proc/modules; alert UUID.....does not exist. Sounds like I flubbed on the custom partition layout, right?
[20:06] <vook> because you'd basically have a break, <sda3 begins> | <sda2 extended> | sda3 ends
[20:06] <sstory> ducasse: Sorry...I have to run right now. Thanks for the tips.
[20:06] <ducasse> sstory: could be. just try  to install again, come back if you still have problems, but try to get a picture of the screen with the errors.
[20:06] <sstory> ducasse: I will. Thanks!
[20:07] <linuxuser> Sup
[20:09] <toffi9> test
[20:17] <benlk> Should I stick around here in hopes that someone answers my question about xsane, or is there a better venue for asking about scanners?
[20:18] <OerHeks> never seen your Q, benlk you may repeat this every 15 min or so
[20:18] <ducasse> benlk: have you looked up your model on the sane website?
[20:20] <benlk> ducasse: It's listed there: http://hplipopensource.com/hplip-web/models/photosmart/photosmart_d110_series.html#note14
[20:20] <benlk> I'm getting a permissions error that can't be solved with sudo: https://gist.github.com/benlk/4edc3cfb01896c1d7880e26605065183
[20:21] <OerHeks> benlk, how is it connected, usb or network?
[20:21] <benlk> OerHeks: USB
[20:22] <OerHeks> does simple-scan ( standard in ubuntu) not find it?
[20:24]  * benlk checks
[20:24] <Eldon1> Anyone familiar with setting up webcams? I have one that just not seem to want to keep the brightness setting
[20:25] <benlk> OerHeks: simple-scan, once the scanner is woekn from sleep, enters a spinning-wheel state, followed by a red "Failed to scan: Unable to connect to scanner" box
[20:25] <benlk> Pressing "Change Scanner" lists the correct scanner.
[20:26] <giarc> i am out of space on /boot, us apt-get autoremove --purge the recommended method for clearing out old kernels?
[20:26] <giarc> is*
[20:26] <nacc> giarc: yes
[20:26] <giarc> nacc http://paste.ubuntu.com/16369214/
[20:26] <nacc> giarc: although i don't thin you need 'purge'
[20:26] <MonkeyDust> giarc  and try bleachbit
[20:27] <nacc> giarc: you'll need to fix your install first
[20:27] <nacc> giarc: by either finishign the install, or remove the broken packages
[20:27] <OerHeks> benlk, tried to unplug/plug the cable?
[20:28] <giarc> hm, nacc so just run the apt-get -f install ?
[20:28] <OerHeks> i find simular issues, most of them with networking
[20:28] <nacc> giarc: i would try that first, yes, but if that fails due to the lack of space on /boot, then you might need to remove the packages in question, autoremove, then reinstall it
[20:29] <benlk> OerHeks: And rebooted the machine, added my user to scanner/lp, logged out/in, etc
[20:31] <OerHeks> benlk, sorry, no clue then :-(
[20:32] <giarc> nacc i seem stuck...no space i can't remove linux-image-generic-lts-utopic
[20:33] <Eldon1> no one in the know with webcams here?
[20:33] <Codfection> any alternative to internet download manager for ubuntu?
[20:33] <Codfection> or they have idm?
[20:33] <OerHeks> giarc, sudo apt-get autoremove # this should work
[20:34] <bekks> Codfection: they have wget, curl and browsers - no need for something else :)
[20:34] <ducasse> giarc: dpkg -r linux-image-generic-lts-utopic
[20:34] <Codfection> bekks, how to download using browser?
[20:34] <giarc> OerHeks that fails with unmet dependencies: http://paste.ubuntu.com/16369283/
[20:35] <Codfection> idm prevents interruption and can resume downloads. any alternate to that?
[20:35] <Codfection> DOWNLOADING from browser.
[20:35] <Eldon1> aria2c is a nice cli one that can do segmentation
[20:35] <OerHeks> giarc, the error gives a hint > Try using -f
[20:36] <OerHeks> sudo apt-get autoremove -f
[20:36] <OerHeks> -f force
[20:37] <bekks> Codfection: By clicking on a download link and wait until the download is finished.
[20:37] <giarc> OerHeks http://paste.ubuntu.com/16369302/
[20:38] <Codfection> bekks, lol I know that.. I am just asking if any alternate to idm
[20:38] <OerHeks> giarc, what did you do before this? removed kernel parts manually?
[20:38] <Codfection> coz idm is like torrenting
[20:39] <giarc> OerHeks nothing like that... tried to ap-get install python-dev
[20:39] <giarc> notice an issue...
[20:39] <giarc> could have been like this prior to that i guess
[20:39] <bekks> Codfection: IDM has nothing to do with torrenting. If you want to download Torrents, use a Torrent client :)
[20:39] <dlam> hmm nginx is logging stuff at  /var/log/nginx/davidapp_access.log.1  ...and  my /etc/logrotate.d/nginx only looks for *.log     anyone know how to make it log at the regular davidapp_access.log file?  dunno why its always going to the duplicate .1 one =\
[20:40] <ducasse> giarc: remove the packages with dpkg -r - that won't try to install anything
[20:41] <benlk> OerHeks: The only thing that looks interesting in /var/log/syslog is kernel: [21545.151869] usb 2-1.4: usbfs: interface 1 claimed by usblp while 'scanimage' sets config #1
[20:42] <giarc> ducasse which packages? i'm not clear on what packages are even causing an issue
[20:42] <ducasse> giarc: linux-image-generic-lts-utopic for a start
[20:43] <ducasse> giarc: linux-image-extra-3.16.0-55-generic also
[20:44] <bekks> ducasse: Erm, why? Why not removing the older kernels first?
[20:44] <giarc> the machine is running 3.16.0-52-generic
[20:44] <bekks> giarc: So you could remove all but -52 and 51
[20:44] <OerHeks> Codfection, we have a nice wiki >>> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DownloadManager
[20:45] <benlk> !!!
[20:45] <benlk> It might actually be working
[20:45] <OerHeks> Codfection, you should have find that easily
[20:45] <OerHeks> oh great benlk
[20:45] <benlk> Now that I'm watching the syslog
[20:45] <Codfection> didnt know about that.. OerHeks
[20:45] <Codfection> thanks
[20:45] <benlk> It works!
[20:46] <giarc> are these the package names for the kernels: linux-image-extra-3.16.0-53-generic ?
[20:46] <ducasse> bekks: those were the packages apt said were preventing him from running autoremmove. then clean up and update.
[20:46] <Codfection> what is curl guys
[20:46] <giarc> or linux-image-3.16.0-46-generic ?
[20:46] <bekks> Codfection: a command line tools for downloading, et al
[20:46] <noob> hi.  have 14.04 headless.  would like openjdk8.  getting 'Unable to locate package openjdk-8-jdk' wat do?
[20:46] <ducasse> giarc: both are.
[20:47] <bekks> noob: You need to use a PPA proving that package.
[20:47] <Codfection> is it like wget?
[20:47] <bekks> Codfection: In terms of downloading, yes.
[20:47] <OerHeks> noob, no openjdk 8 for 14.04 AFAIK
[20:47] <noob> bekks: how find?
[20:47] <noob> apparently it out 04/23?
[20:48] <bekks> OerHeks: noob: https://launchpad.net/~webupd8team/+archive/ubuntu/java
[20:48] <Codfection> bekks, honeslty, do you think OS X is superior to Ubuntu?
[20:49] <bekks> Codfection: It doesnt matter what I think about that since your question is offtopic in here.
[20:49] <Codfection> I just want your opinion
[20:49] <OerHeks> bekks, is  oracle-java8-installer	8u92+8u91arm-2~really8u91~webupd8~0 not ARM only?
[20:49] <Codfection> if possible.
[20:49] <OerHeks> Codfection, no flamewars here!
[20:50] <ducasse> giarc: you probably want to remove the corresponding linux-headers packages also.
[20:50] <giarc> ducasse ok..how would i find those package names?
[20:50] <noob> should i just do a distro upgrade?
[20:50] <giarc> just named <package>-headers?
[20:51] <ducasse> giarc: use tab expansion. linux-headers-TABTAB
[20:51] <bekks> OerHeks: http://www.webupd8.org/2012/09/install-oracle-java-8-in-ubuntu-via-ppa.html
[20:51] <bekks> noob: You can just read the link given to OerHeks :)
[20:52] <OerHeks> i see the ARM version only .. https://launchpad.net/~webupd8team/+archive/ubuntu/java?field.series_filter=trusty
[20:53] <bekks> OerHeks: Just follow the link given :)
[20:53] <noob> bekks: that is oracal java.  wanted openjdk?
[20:53] <bekks> noob: OpenJDK? Never dealt with it, in favour of Oracle JDK. Sorry :)
[20:54] <noob> bekks: not like closed source on server
[20:54] <giarc> ducasse thanks. i got to the point apt-get autoremove runs... removed the -46 kernel and corresponding headers...is apt-get autoremove --purge how to get rid of the other older ones?
[20:55] <bekks> noob: And I like a working Java implementation ;) Sounds like a different use case :)
[20:55] <ducasse> giarc: you don't need --purge here
[20:55] <noob> openjdk works and is mainlined
[20:55] <noob> bekks:
[20:55] <benlk> WNope, abck to not working.
[20:55] <bekks> noob: For all of our use cases, it doesnt work.
[20:55] <wedgie> anyone have a link that describes how alt-tab behavior works in Unity? Just when I think I understand it I find myself surprised by what happens the next time I hit alt-tab. Sometimes it switches between apps (ex, from terminal to firefox) and sometimes it switches between multiple instances of the same app (then what is alt-` for?)
[20:56] <noob> bekks: for all resonable usecases neither does closed source
[20:56] <giarc> ducasse ok. how do i get rid of the rest of the old kernels?
[20:57] <ducasse> giarc: autoremove didn't clean them?
[20:57] <nicomachus> giarc: how many you got?
[20:57] <nicomachus> giarc: "sudo ls /boot" will list them all
[20:57] <CacheMoney> stupid question, say I have 2 NICs configured and I wanted to have iSCSI targets be accessed via eth1 rather than eth0, I would just connect to the target via eth1's IP address, right?
[20:58] <giarc> ducasse only one, -46...left a -30m 48, 49. 50, 51, 52(the running kernel )
[20:58] <winsen1> hi all
[20:58] <winsen1> can you please tell me how to restore ntfs partition with ubuntu cd live?
[20:58] <FManTropyx> I have 4
[20:58] <Javabean> there you got it, winsen1
[20:58] <nicomachus> have to remove those manually, then, giarc
[20:58]  * giarc wonder what the hell i did to this machine
[20:58] <CacheMoney> winsen1: use testdisk
[20:58] <winsen1> Javabean: now yes
[20:58] <FManTropyx> the last dist-upgrade installed 85, but my system is not using it
[20:59] <winsen1> CacheMoney: after that?
[20:59] <nicomachus> giarc: sometimes linux-image-generic will get marked as "manually installed" and then autoremove doesn't remove them.
[20:59] <nicomachus> or the autoremove script will just get wonky.
[20:59] <ducasse> giarc: 'dpkg -l linux-image\* | grep ^ii' will give you the package names, just remove the old ones.
[21:00] <CacheMoney> winsen1: well whats wrong with the partitions?
[21:00] <CacheMoney> sorry, I'm out of the loop
[21:00] <winsen1> CacheMoney:it says not installed, I am using ubuntu live cd
[21:01] <winsen1> CacheMoney: I can't open the partition
[21:01] <winsen1> CacheMoney: I can't read the partition
[21:02] <winsen1> CacheMoney: any clue how to read the partition ntfs, I just need to take my file in.
[21:02] <noob> i have a headless 14.04 server.  what are my risks with a distro upgrade?
[21:03] <OerHeks> winsen use windows for restoring ntfs, i wouldn't use linux tools for that. without windows, try UBcd
[21:03] <winsen1> any clue?
[21:03] <winsen1> OerHeks: the problem I don't have windows disk
[21:04] <winsen1> OerHeks: don't you think I can fix it with other tools?
[21:04] <OerHeks> winsen1, yes, i gave you an example
[21:05] <ducasse> !ltsupgrade | noob
[21:05] <noob> thanks ducasse
[21:08] <Joe520> hi
[21:09] <gdev> Anyone got Nvidia + Bumblebee running on Ubuntu 16.04? Seems like impossible right now, which is really bad for a stable release^^
[21:09] <tmuwa> hi Joe520
[21:09] <giarc> ducasse i probably should have used apt-get remove to remove those...still have the corresponding vmliz- and initrf.img and confs in /boot
[21:11] <topkek447> hey, does someone know if one can use grub as some kind of parental restriction, as in I can only but windows between certain times? If not is it possible to write a grub script for such a thing
[21:11] <OerHeks> gdev, bumblebee is old, nvidia prime is current https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Config/HybridGraphics
[21:12] <gdev> both doesn't work
[21:13] <OerHeks> topkek447, you can protect with password, all entries or just one > https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2/Passwords
[21:13] <gdev> OerHeks: Both leave a not useable system when installed. Be it nvidia-current, nvidia-364, or any other nvidia version
[21:13] <OerHeks> topkek447, not on time based AFAIK
[21:14] <winsen1> OerHeks: what about gparted?
[21:14] <OerHeks> winsen1, gparted is a partitionmanager, not to recover ntfs
[21:14] <OerHeks> winsen1, again: without windows, try ubcd , tons of tools like ntfs fix
[21:15] <winsen1> OerHeks: what about ultimate boot?
[21:15] <topkek447> OerHeks, oh ok thanks
[21:15] <gdev> maybe give knoppix also a try, contains many tools for such things
[21:15] <OerHeks> what about it? i dont know that
[21:16] <OerHeks> topkek447 maybe your router have parental control
[21:19] <backbox_> hi
[21:24] <curlyears> HELP
[21:25] <curlyears> when I boot my 16.04 install DVD, it doesn't display any of tghe graphical screens, it just dumpes me to a text console, where it offers
[21:25] <curlyears> me a choiice of "Try ubuntu, install,
[21:25] <curlyears> maNUFACTURER'S INSTALL, OR CHECK DIS
[21:26] <curlyears> THE DISC CHECKS WITHOUT ANY REPORTED ERRORS
[21:26] <clg1> hey I'm trying to connect to an ftp server on my phone. it gives me ftp://192.168.X.XXX:2221 but I can't seem to get the command syntax right. I've used ftp before but it's alwasy to a website not an ip address. What am I doing wrong?
[21:26] <clg1> Also it's setup to allow anonymous users
[21:27] <curlyears> but when I try to install, it goes to a black screen, waits about 20 seconds, the tells me:  "MoklistRT not found"  waits about 1 second, the clears the screen and dumps me to a "grub (rescue)" promptt
[21:29] <curlyears> and, to top that off, I seem to have "misplaced" my 14.04.4 DVD )-:
[21:31] <curlyears> what the (*%^*(%(^ is "MoklistRT" and why is it missing?
[21:32] <curlyears> *WOW* it's quiet in here this afternoon
[21:35] <tmuwa> Here it is 23:34 :-D
[21:36] <curlyears> anyone?
[21:37] <k1l_> curlyears: http://askubuntu.com/questions/762162/acer-3810t-boot-fails-with-ubuntu-16-04
[21:38] <k1l_> seems to be device specific for uefi stuff.
[21:45] <tooryasnm> can someone help me with conky?
[21:48] <tmuwa> depends on your problem tooryasnm
[21:49] <curlyears> tmuwa: do you know anything about installing 16.04 from a .iso?
[21:49] <tmuwa> a little bit curlyears
[21:49] <k1l_> tooryasnm: help with what exactly? did you ask in #conky ?
[21:50] <curlyears> k1ll_:  did you happen to see the description of my currernt problem with installing 16.04 from the .iso?
[21:51] <curlyears> or did you, tmuwa?
[21:51] <k1l_> curlyears: scroll up, i did answer
[21:52] <tooryasnm> k1l_, i did ask in that channel people dont help there
[21:53] <curlyears> k1l_:  no answers, juat a couple of questions, and it is specific to Acer hardware.  Also, though it does mention "MokListRT,"  the problem sounds rather different in nature
[21:53] <curlyears> k1l_:  but thanks for the pointer
[21:54] <k1l_> curlyears: i dont know about that error. is this a acer machine? what machine is it? what video card? is there an os installed already? is uefi activated? is secureboot activated?
[21:55] <LongFeng> Greetings. I need to set up a firewall, because there is no war withing the walls.
[21:55] <LongFeng> *within
[21:56] <LongFeng> Oh, by the way: The Earth King has invited you to Lake Laogai to fix his computer.
[21:57] <curlyears> k1l_:  not Acer, no/   it's a generic AMD64 FX-9300.  Onboard AMD grapics, no active OS (my root parition just mysteriusly became freespace)  uefi is activated.   I don't know what "secureboot" is, so I can't answer that, but I suspect not\
[21:57] <LongFeng> Everything is beautifully quiet. There is no war within the walls. Here, we are safe. Here, we are free.
[21:57] <curlyears> FX-8300,, sowwy
[21:58] <LongFeng> There is also no secure boot within the walls.
[21:58] <curlyears> LongFeng: do you live in a place with a goverment?  Then you are NOT safe
[21:59] <curlyears> k1l_: ?
[21:59] <curlyears> you there, k1l_?
[21:59] <LongFeng> Of course I do. Ba Sing Se remains a peaceful, orderly utopia - the last one on Earth. There is no war within the walls.
[21:59] <tmuwa> seems to be a uefi issue curlyears
[22:00] <OerHeks> !ot | LongFeng
[22:00] <k1l_> curlyears: i guess that is a uefi issue, as i said before. so maybe that hdd still got some stuff on it that makes the issue now.
[22:00] <curlyears> define "uefi issue" for me, tmu
[22:01] <tmuwa> do you know what uefi is curlyears ?
[22:01] <k1l_> curlyears: can you unplug the the hdd and try to boot the live dvd?
[22:01] <LongFeng> I do not want to create an account. There are no accounts within the walls. Here, we are safe. Here, we are free (of accounts).
[22:01] <OerHeks> i've noticed issue after issue, curlyears, i suspect hw failure
[22:01] <curlyears> I'll have to go doubl;e check, but EUFI *WAS* selected in the BIOS Setup menu
[22:02] <LongFeng> curlyears, the Earth King has invited you to Lake Laogai.
[22:02] <curlyears> OerHeks: I am sadly beginnning to come to the same conclusion, must be a flakey motherboard
[22:02] <OerHeks> LongFeng, stop it please. keep this channel free for support
[22:02] <OerHeks> curlyears, could well be bad ram too
[22:03] <OerHeks> when 1 bit tumbles ..
[22:03] <curlyears> OerHeks: oh, don't even *THINK<* that.  My RAM consists of one 8GB pair of simms, and one 16GB pair.  replacement cost == *OUCH*
[22:04] <OerHeks> curlyears, oke, so you can check pairs
[22:04] <OerHeks> it is worth trying, to be sure
[22:04] <curlyears> I have run memtest86 (built intoi the BIOS) on an overnight basis, claimed it was error free.  How reliable is memtest86?
[22:05] <OerHeks> memtest is pretty accurate
[22:05] <k1l_> curlyears: unplug the hdd. then try to boot again
[22:05] <OerHeks> another good test, boot without hdd
[22:05] <OerHeks> k1l_ +1
[22:06] <curlyears> hmmm.  that removes the memory as a probable cause, then.  OK, back in a FEWE, GOING TO TRY BOOTIONG INTO INSTALL WITH NO hdd PTRESENT
[22:06] <curlyears> oops
[22:08] <WoodyPC> Hello everybody. You guys and gals remember 12.04LTS backgrounds in the "Appearance" tab in System Information? Whatever happened to that one background picture of, what looked like an armadillo? Can I get that from somewhere?
[22:09] <k1l_> WoodyPC: i bet some webpage still ships 12.04 wallpapers.
[22:09] <WoodyPC> yeah, I am looking now
[22:09] <OerHeks> most artwork/wallpapers are still in the repos. install synaptic ( detailed softwarecenter to see them)
[22:12] <OerHeks> https://launchpad.net/ubuntu-wallpapers/+packages
[22:12] <tgm4883> WoodyPC: all of them are still in the repos
[22:12] <tgm4883> !info ubuntu-wallpapers-precise
[22:12] <tgm4883> or if you are feeling like you need to have them all, ubuntu-wallpapers-complete
[22:12] <WoodyPC> thanks yall
[22:13] <tgm4883> ha, I lied. apparently the complete one is only for mate
[22:13] <tgm4883> but the other ones work
[22:18] <Codfection> is there any dictionary app for ubuntu
[22:18] <fearnothing> hi folks, I'd like a software recommendation please
[22:18] <OerHeks> Codfection, didn't find one in softwarecenter?
[22:19] <fearnothing> got my dad using ubuntu and one thing he misses from Windows is a decent interface for sorting and managing photos and video at the same time
[22:20] <fearnothing> e.g. by default recent versions of windows sort photo/video by the EXIF timestamp, and can view photos and play back video within a single interface
[22:20] <fearnothing> by default Ubuntu doesn't seem to do that. Can you recommend any software that would do that please?
[22:21] <Bashing-om> Codfection: ' apt search dictionary ' returns bunches . A lot to pick through .
[22:21] <mightywok> I haven't used Shotwell in a while, but it may be what you're looking for, in terms a sorting/managing photos solution
[22:22] <OerHeks> fearnothing, here is a list http://www.makeuseof.com/tag/top-linux-photo-software-managing-editing-snaps/
[22:22] <k1l_> fearnothing: gthumb, picasa, shotwell, ..
[22:22] <fearnothing> ahh, my google results were all quite old
[22:23] <fearnothing> saying picasa didn't support video :P
[22:23] <mightywok> Hasn't Picasa been abandoned?
[22:23] <OerHeks> fearnothing, and look for ubuntustudio metapackages, like ubuntustudio-photography
[22:23] <shinhg> is it possible to remove dvd codecs for gstreamer? i don't even remember what a dvd looks like
[22:23] <mightywok> remove codecs?
[22:23] <shinhg> gthumb is rubbish
[22:23] <OerHeks> mightywok, yeah, droped in 2012 http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2012/04/google-officially-drop-picasa-for-linux
[22:24] <shinhg> yes, their codecs and their libraries
[22:24] <almark> is it possible to upgrade from 14.04 to 16.04 straight away ?
[22:24] <shinhg> leaving the good stuff like ffmpeg in
[22:24] <tgm4883> shinhg: really hurting for drive space are we?
[22:25] <shinhg> my disk space is for useful things
[22:26] <k1l_> !ltsupgrade | almark
[22:26] <OerHeks> dvd codecs are are the same ffmpeg codecs, so i wonder what to remove
[22:26] <almark> aha
[22:26] <tgm4883> shinhg: so gaining like 50KB then?
[22:26] <almark> thanks k1l_
[22:27] <k1l_> almark: you can use the LTS upgrade now if you use the developer switch "-d" now. but this is the unofficial one
[22:28] <mightywok> I would probably wait for 16.04.1
[22:28] <mightywok> If you've waited this long...
[22:28] <dreamaddict> my Ubuntu 16.04 seems to have something wrong with the QML files when I try to use QtCreator...I am not sure if this is a problem with QtCreator or Ubuntu, but a lot of the modules that are throwing messages in QtCreator are Ubuntu components...
[22:28] <almark> i'll wait
[22:29] <shinhg> why don't they package gstreamer plugins separately?
[22:29] <DANtheBEASTman> i dun goofed and tried to install guitar pro (poorly packaged non-free software) and it installed a bunch of i386 libs.. is there an easy way to remove all i386 libs from my system? i tried dpkg -r \*:i386 but that didn't work..
[22:30] <tgm4883> shinhg: it's probably a lot of unnecessary work to do that
[22:30] <WoodyPC> thanks yall. I used Synaptic and got the 12.04 wallpapers. The one I wanted looks more like an ant eater. lol Whatever it is, it looks cool on 32 inches of screen. thanks again
[22:30] <dreamaddict> http://pastebin.com/z9AjHigS
[22:31] <shinhg> yet they took pains to separate them into good/bad/ugly
[22:31] <tgm4883> shinhg: actually, they already do
[22:31] <shinhg> some weird american thing
[22:31] <tgm4883> shinhg: they are already separated into separate codecs
[22:31] <tgm4883> shinhg: yea, totally blame america for that
[22:32] <OerHeks> DANtheBEASTman, best way would be removal of guitar pro, then clean up with autoremove/autoclean
[22:33] <fearnothing> thanks for the suggestions guys, we'll look into those and see what works best
[22:34] <WoodyPC> shinhg: Can we just blame the American Government? I am american and I promise you, I didn't do it! lol
[22:34] <MoonBurst> That's not American enough. Blame Trump.
[22:34] <shinhg> only us and japan copyright algorithms
[22:35] <WoodyPC> lol
[22:36] <tgm4883> shinhg: well, aside from the fact Canonical is a British company. How much of the dvd libraries do you want to remove? Do you want to remove mpeg2 codecs as well?
[22:39] <tgm4883> shinhg: I'm looking through the package and codecs, this seems like a lot of work for you to save less than 1MB of disk space
[22:39] <shinhg> idk, i need to test that
[22:39] <shinhg> and it's more like 90MB
[22:39] <tgm4883> shinhg: not from what I'm looking at
[22:39] <tgm4883> 5 packages
[22:39] <WoodyPC> I kind of wish I could give the Ubuntu makers a Contribution that would make a diiference. I know it is a "Free" OS, But in my opnion, It is, by far, Better than any other OS out there. It beats the heck out of Windows.
[22:40] <DANtheBEASTman> ah, I did it with dpkg --get-selections | awk '/i386/{ if($2=="install") {print $1; } }' | xargs -I% sudo apt-get purge -y %
[22:40] <tgm4883> WoodyPC: what do you mean a contribution?
[22:40] <shinhg> it's dependencies that take up space
[22:40] <DANtheBEASTman> bit of a hack but it worked
[22:41] <OerHeks> shinhg, remove all libdvdread4 packages, 13 items, totalling 13,7 kB
[22:41] <OerHeks> :-D
[22:41] <tgm4883> shinhg: I'm counting dependencies. Unless you want to get rid of libc6 too, it's these 5 packages
[22:41] <tgm4883> OerHeks: does that also remove libdvd-pkg libdvdnav4 libmpeg2-4 libmpg123-0
[22:42] <Bashing-om> WoodyPC: Participate: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2260620&p=13206678#post13206678 . Ubuntu Find-A-Task .
[22:42] <tgm4883> OerHeks: those are the 5 packages I can see. All add up to about 900KB
[22:42] <WoodyPC> tgm4883: When I downloaded the 64 bit Ubuntu 14.04LTS, I made a moderate donation. But IMOP, It is worth 1000 fold what I was able too donate.
[22:42] <OerHeks> tgm4883, not sure, wat looking for the libdvdread css installer
[22:42] <tgm4883> WoodyPC: ah, well you could always donate again, or donate your time to some project
[22:42] <tgm4883> OerHeks: that's libdvd-pkg
[22:43] <OerHeks> WoodyPC, donate .. or .. tell someone about ubuntu, that will be great
[22:43] <tgm4883> OerHeks: which probably pulls down another package, so it's a *little* more than 900KB. But even if it was 90MB I wouldn't be wasting my time on this
[22:43] <drong0> hi there. i have ubuntu on my thinkpad t520 and i closed the lid, reopened but it was just a blank screen (fan, etc. still on). did a hard reboot and now i have this fsck info (/dev/sdb2: clean,  . . . files . . . blocks) message display
[22:43] <drong0> anyone have tips?
[22:43] <OerHeks> tgm4883, true, the gained space will be small
[22:44] <shinhg> and i cannot just remove a single library as it would break dependencies and apt would stop working
[22:44] <drong0> ctrl + alt + f1 takes me to a login
[22:44] <tgm4883> shinhg: no it wouldn't
[22:46] <WoodyPC> tgm4883: You can ask Bashing-om, Even though I have been using Ubuntu a few years now, I still consider myself a "newbie". I used DOS and Windows until someone turned me on-to Linux. I didn't even read about it. I downloaded Ubuntu and installed it and left Windows in the dust. Crash course you might say.
[22:47] <tgm4883> WoodyPC: always a good way to get started. I'd point out that there are many ways to contribute (testing/documentation/coding/helping)
[22:48] <WoodyPC> tgm4883: Well, I am interested in anything I can do to help.
[22:48] <drong0> ah fixed!
[22:48] <OerHeks> !contribute
[22:49] <winsen1> hey guys, does know how to recover password and username?
[22:50] <OerHeks> winsen1, username should be visible at login.
[22:50] <OerHeks> !password
[22:51]  * shinhg considers linux too broken for any serious work
[22:51] <vlab> is there any particular reason i keep getting a popup from OpenSSH requesting my passphrase for my ssh key?
[22:51] <WoodyPC> So you'all would consider the fact that I offer both 32 and 64 bit versions of Ubuntu as an Operating System in my System builds, A way of helping?
[22:51] <vlab> started up last night when i started pushing and committing to my gitlab repo
[22:51] <winsen1> I can't believe it, I am using ubuntu libe and it ask me username and pasword!?
[22:51] <winsen1> live...
[22:52] <OerHeks> on the live iso, username = blank, password = ubuntu ..
[22:52] <OerHeks> or username = ubuntu, password = blank
[22:52] <winsen1> OerHeks: I don't know why!?
[22:52] <tgm4883> shinhg: noted
[22:53] <tgm4883> shinhg: maybe it's broken for you because you insist on removing "unnecessary" libraries
[22:54] <shinhg> people take pains writing autoconf scripts to keep stuff nice and lean
[22:54] <winsen1> OerHeks: It's ok now, I rebooted my disk after trying with UCBC, it seems not working unfortunetely nor with windows
[22:54] <shinhg> but maintainers just put everything together in a single package without any options
[22:55] <tgm4883> shinhg: I'm still wondering what you're talking about this "single package" since we debunked that earlier
[22:56] <Bashing-om> !minimal | shinhg These is this where you only install what you want .
[22:56] <shinhg> "gstreamer1.0-plugins-bad:amd64 depends on libdvdread4" and so on
[22:56] <dreamaddict> is there a way to grep the contents of a terminal window from another terminal window?
[22:57] <tgm4883> shinhg: it's becoming clear you don't understand the concept of metapackages.
[22:57] <shinhg> gstreamer1.0-plugins-* are not metapacjages
[22:59] <OerHeks> shinhg, one solution: build the ffmpeg packages yourself, so you can control it.
[22:59] <tgm4883> shinhg: ah true, although those aren't the codecs either
[23:00] <mnathani> I am trying to get x11 forwarding working over ssh
[23:00] <shinhg> maybe some day i'll try that
[23:00] <mnathani> when I try ssh -X host, only command line comes up
[23:00] <mnathani> no x11 window
[23:01] <dreamaddict> if Ubuntu "suggests" a whole lot of boost libs as part of a package, should I install it (Boost)?
[23:02] <tgm4883> shinhg: actually, upon further research. I'm going back to my original statement on this package. It's very likely too much work to separate out the gstreamer plugins into separate packages
[23:02] <OerHeks> mnathani, On the server side, X11Forwarding yes must specified in /etc/ssh/sshd_config
[23:02] <dreamaddict> hello fellow Ubuntu users!
[23:03] <OerHeks> dreamaddict, i would follow that suggestion, yes
[23:03] <dreamaddict> thank you :)
[23:04] <tgm4883> shinhg: Even if you still believe that each gstreamer plugin should be packaged separately, you're complaining to the wrong people
[23:13] <mnathani> OerHeks, I do have that
[23:15] <malinus> Hello. I currently trying to make following connection: "machine on internet" -> UDP -> VPS (static IP) -> 3G (unknown IP/none accessible ports) -> "UDP service on a machine". I've tried to do some socat magic, it  doesn't however seem possible. Any other ideas?
[23:15] <buntunoob> Adding arrows to an image is a pain (and looks disgusting) under GIMP. Any recommended alternatives?
[23:16] <squinty> mnathani,  once you have made your ssh connection, have you tried typing a program's name?
[23:17] <\ni> buntunoob, maybe use a bow?
[23:17] <dschense> iam running a ubuntu machine with running port which could be used over the web. but the service is running on a different machine on the same network. now i am trying to forward the traffic on machin A over port 5055 to machine B over port 5055. i tryed with iptables but had no luck. reset everything to before. this is my actual iptables rules http://pastebin.com/yg3bNnNS can anybody help?
[23:18] <OerHeks> buntunoob, tons of paint programs, https://apps.ubuntu.com/cat/department/painting/
[23:19] <buntunoob> OerHeks, ty.
[23:19] <dschense> by the way, DerKeks i found a working backup and was able to reset the machine ;)
[23:21] <shinhg> i think he wants a vector graphics
[23:21] <OerHeks> dschense, nice
[23:38] <dreamaddict> Can anyone make sense out of these errors? http://pastebin.com/MNqawicV  --  I am trying to make a Qt Quick Controls Application in Qt Creator, but this happens when I try to create a new project.
[23:38] <dreamaddict> the QML is busted
[23:41] <dreamaddict> hello everyone!
[23:42] <owen1> where is the source code for 14.04? http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/trusty/
[23:45] <squinty> owen1, Software and Updates -> toggle "sources" on
[23:46] <squinty> owen1,  actually labled as "source code"
[23:46] <owen1> squinty: it's a server. i don't have any GUI
[23:47] <dreamaddict> Can anyone make sense out of these errors? http://pastebin.com/MNqawicV  --  I am trying to make a Qt Quick Controls Application in Qt Creator, but this happens when I try to create a new project.
[23:49] <squinty> owen1,   /etc/apt/sources.list   you can enable them there
[23:49] <nacc> owen1: you need to add deb-src lines as appropriate
[23:52] <dreamaddict> does anyone know why QML would be broken in Ubuntu?
[23:52] <owen1> squinty: nacc our lawyers need list of all open source project i use and a url to the source code.
[23:53] <owen1> i need to find a link to the sourcecode of ubuntu 14.04.
[23:54] <squinty> owen1, http://packages.ubuntu.com/
[23:55] <owen1> squinty: thanks. it looks like i need http://packages.ubuntu.com/trusty/  but where can i see the license?
[23:55] <nacc> owen1: you will need to, in general, go to: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/<packagename>
[23:56] <k1l_> owen1: http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/
[23:56] <nacc> owen1: or tell your lawyers to learn about `pull-lp-source`
[23:56] <k1l_> owen1: ubuntu is a distributor. so it ships a lot of packages/projects which have different licences. there is not one license or one sourcecode.
[23:57] <owen1> k1l_: oh
[23:57] <owen1> interesting
[23:57] <piper25> anyone used ubuntu live usb with persistance?...Im able to get ubuntu to boot on a usb fine.. but the options look the same as a live cd bootup for instance is says try or intall ubuntu instead of run ubuntu from usb is this the way it should be for persistance?
[23:58] <k1l_> http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/14.04/release/source/