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flocculantany sensible reason why we have gnome-user-guide in x-core/desktop ?16:53
knomecan't think of any18:53
Unit193Deps pull it in.18:54
flocculantI assumed that was the case - can never work out the why :p19:02
flocculantknome: so re our release notes and the issues with the ubuntu wiki - what do you think's the best thing to do? 19:44
flocculantand if we're going to move them - I guess they'll need somewhere to go19:45
knomei guess it's fair enough to move to our own wiki if we think it's worth it to copy over some markup from the ubuntu wiki once or twice a cycle19:46
flocculantmmm19:46
knomeok, i completely broke my new version of the tracker and rebuilt it better19:47
flocculantcurrently with the wiki immutable - means we can't do anything with the current note, not keeping it up to date very regularly atm, but who knows how long it'll be till it's editable19:48
knomeack19:48
knomeone option is to wait for some time to see if the community team comes up with something reliable with IS19:49
flocculantright19:49
knomesome time not being too long19:49
flocculantwell19:50
flocculantperhaps19:50
flocculantmy issue is I guess that in some future when we *do* need to edit - we'll not be able to 19:50
knomeyes19:50
flocculantand I really can't see why IS would give one about us not being able to be up to date for our testers - not their worry :)19:51
flocculantso bleating in sysadmin's not going to be much use 19:51
knomethe ubuntu wiki has some content that is important enough for canonical to let people edit that it's likely getting more friction than the community wiki19:52
flocculantyup19:52
flocculantcept release notes aren't on community wiki19:53
knomeno19:53
knomeand shouldn't19:53
flocculantI guess if someone is canonical then they're going to be able to edit 19:54
knomenope19:54
knomethat shouldn't be it19:54
knomewell at least as i understand it...19:54
knomeanyway, they do want some community be able to edit something19:54
knomeif seems like not and the situation isn't fixed timely, then of course we should use something else19:55
flocculantI guess the long and short is I'll just move the note I care about editing 19:55
flocculantwell - if they're trying to plug a spam hole - there will be a new one as soon as it is plugged19:55
* knome shrugs19:55
knomei don't really know enough about what's happening to evaluate19:56
flocculantnope19:56
knomei know some of the community team have been talking about migrating away from moinmoin19:56
knomeso, maybe something like that is being thought about19:56
flocculantdon't see how that'd help deal with spammers being spammers19:57
knomemaybe there are better spam-detecting measures in other wikis that are actively developed19:58
knomeand automatic spam cleaning19:58
flocculantno idea19:59
knomei have no exact idea either; i haven't looked closely at many wikis lately19:59
knomebut i'm sure something like that has to exist, otherwise all wikis would be full of crap19:59
flocculantaren't they? 19:59
knomewell, that's a different matter...19:59
flocculant:p19:59
Unit193FWIW, I'm actually running the GTK3/gdbus ports.21:14
Unit193Tumbler seems fine.21:15
ochosiUnit193: that's awesome news21:18
ochosiwhat was the thing about xfconf you wanted to tell ali?21:18
Unit193Well there's not a lot that's in the PPA yet.  Uhh, that it's broken in some specific call, can't remember what. >_<  `make distcheck` should find it, or if I can find a pastebin.21:19
Unit193http://paste.openstack.org/show/8xFJXvYPeAkEsfPJUuex/ it was in #xfce-dev...21:23
ochosii see21:24
ochosiyou could submit a bugreport or send it to the mailing list21:24
Unit193Yeah on the todo.21:27
ochosigood good, just wanna make sure it doesn't get lost21:27
Unit193Won't get lost, just ignored. :P21:28

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