| hikiko | hi | 04:48 |
|---|---|---|
| duflu | Morning hikiko | 05:04 |
| hikiko | hello duflu :-) | 05:05 |
| hikiko | how are you ? | 05:05 |
| duflu | hikiko: Good, I think. You? | 05:06 |
| hikiko | good | 05:13 |
| hikiko | ; | 05:14 |
| hikiko | Sorry | 05:14 |
| duflu | hikiko: BTW I looked at kgunn's spreadsheet this morning. You hadn't filled it out yet. See email titled 'sprint?' | 05:15 |
| Sweet5hark | goood morning desktoppers! | 07:13 |
| TheMuso | Hey Sweet5hark. | 07:13 |
| Sweet5hark | heya | 07:16 |
| pitti | Good morning | 07:24 |
| seb128 | hey Sweet5hark TheMuso, pitti, how are you? | 07:24 |
| pitti | seb128: quite fine, thanks! nice basketball game last night; how about you? | 07:25 |
| * Sweet5hark is "woken due to construction in neighbor appartment" ;) | 07:25 | |
| pitti | hello Sweet5hark! | 07:25 |
| seb128 | pitti, I'm good thanks! a bit tired, though I didn't do sport yesterday evening | 07:26 |
| TheMuso | Sweet5hark: Yep that would suck, particularly when the concrete is being drilled into/hammered etc. | 07:26 |
| Sweet5hark | TheMuso: yes, that ;) | 07:26 |
| Sweet5hark | pitti: heya, you shadow desktop team member ;) | 07:27 |
| seb128 | pitti, sorry for getting those lid close debug info wrong, though I think the | grep systemd was ok since logind output is "systemd-logind" | 07:27 |
| pitti | seb128: oh, you're right | 07:27 |
| pitti | seb128: I misread that, sorry | 07:28 |
| seb128 | pitti, no worry | 07:28 |
| pitti | seb128: I followed up to the bug again | 07:31 |
| seb128 | pitti, danke | 07:31 |
| seb128 | pitti, I'm out of ideas now on that bug though :-/ | 07:32 |
| seb128 | it's not a inhibit lock | 07:32 |
| seb128 | it's not an external display | 07:32 |
| pitti | and suspend through menu works too, so the kernel/hw bits work too | 07:33 |
| pitti | seb128: do we have an u-settings-daemon debug log from the power plugin already? | 07:33 |
| pitti | to see whether that spits out anything useful? | 07:34 |
| seb128 | no | 07:34 |
| seb128 | pitti, but that user stated that "HandleLidSwitchDocked=suspend in /etc/systemd/logind.conf" make things work | 07:34 |
| pitti | right, which essentially short-circuits u-settings-daemon | 07:34 |
| pitti | seb128: the /sys/class/drm/* thing still looks a bit suspicious though, as if card0-HDMI-A-1 was enabled | 07:35 |
| seb128 | right | 07:36 |
| seb128 | but xrandr disagrees | 07:36 |
| seb128 | LVDS connected primary 1366x768+0+0 (normal left inverted right x axis y axis) 344mm x 194mm | 07:36 |
| seb128 | HDMI-0 disconnected (normal left inverted right x axis y axis) | 07:36 |
| seb128 | VGA-0 disconnected (normal left inverted right x axis y axis) | 07:36 |
| seb128 | let's wait for the grep -r output | 07:37 |
| seb128 | just to make sure | 07:37 |
| pitti | yeah, could just be different sort order of ls vs. glob | 07:37 |
| seb128 | is u-s-d involved in suspend nowadays? | 07:37 |
| seb128 | or is it just taking inhibit locks | 07:37 |
| seb128 | and otherwise letting systemd do the work? | 07:38 |
| pitti | it should work mostly through inhibitors and logind AFAIK | 07:38 |
| pitti | i. e. setting block inhibitors if you configure it to not suspend | 07:38 |
| pitti | but that was from a few years ago, I don't remember the details any more, need to look at the power plugin | 07:38 |
| Laney | morningu | 08:03 |
| willcooke | o/ | 08:07 |
| pitti | hey Laney and willcooke! | 08:08 |
| TheMuso | Hey willcooke. | 08:09 |
| willcooke | hey pitti TheMuso | 08:10 |
| seb128 | back | 08:11 |
| seb128 | good morning Laney & willcooke! | 08:11 |
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| willcooke | morning seb128 | 08:11 |
| seb128 | (sorry went out to get some coffee and took me a bit to get back online, that coffee place changed their wifi password :p) | 08:11 |
| willcooke | hah! | 08:11 |
| seb128 | they added a "-" in the middle, go figure :p | 08:12 |
| pitti | coffee shop at this hour already, tsk.. | 08:12 |
| seb128 | lol | 08:13 |
| Laney | when in holland... | 08:13 |
| willcooke | trololol | 08:14 |
| Laney | morning pitti seb128 willcooke et TheMuso! | 08:14 |
| willcooke | happyaron, thanks for moving that NM SRU forwards | 08:14 |
| * seb128 would like to point out that there is still one day to go before friday! | 08:15 | |
| willcooke | heh, seb128 I made a note last night to follow up the white corners in Calendar issue, and this morning when I check the bug I see you've already looked at it 20 mins ago :) | 08:16 |
| seb128 | willcooke, yeah, it was on my list, trying to get some SRUs uploaded today | 08:16 |
| * willcooke puts on his tin foil hat | 08:16 | |
| Laney | it's fixed in 3.20.2 | 08:16 |
| willcooke | yeah | 08:16 |
| willcooke | t'is good | 08:17 |
| willcooke | we might need a theme change as well | 08:17 |
| willcooke | so I would like you to consider the coloured tabs in Terminal as well | 08:17 |
| seb128 | Laney, right, which is the version I uploaded | 08:17 |
| seb128 | or I think? | 08:17 |
| seb128 | yes, that's right, you made me doubt for a sec :p | 08:18 |
| willcooke | seb128, shall I do an MP for the calendar theme change? | 08:18 |
| seb128 | willcooke, what change? | 08:18 |
| willcooke | seb128, https://launchpadlibrarian.net/256667600/themepatch.txt | 08:18 |
| seb128 | we already had the transparent bg thing | 08:18 |
| willcooke | we need some .views bits and pieces as well | 08:19 |
| seb128 | it works with our current theme | 08:19 |
| seb128 | well at least on my xenial | 08:19 |
| willcooke | oki, lemme clean up my test machine and try it | 08:19 |
| seb128 | I included the rules that was supposed to work but didn't, before xenial | 08:19 |
| seb128 | that update made it work | 08:19 |
| willcooke | ahhh | 08:19 |
| willcooke | oh, no | 08:19 |
| willcooke | humm | 08:19 |
| willcooke | lemme try it | 08:19 |
| seb128 | did you already get the update? | 08:20 |
| seb128 | I uploaded that like half an hour ago | 08:20 |
| willcooke | not yet | 08:20 |
| seb128 | k | 08:20 |
| seb128 | I was wondering | 08:20 |
| willcooke | I need to wipe my test machine it's in funny state | 08:20 |
| willcooke | so I can do that now | 08:20 |
| willcooke | so terminal tabs..... | 08:21 |
| willcooke | gooo onnnnnnnnnnnn | 08:22 |
| seb128 | did you ever get any feedback from Laney or larsu? | 08:22 |
| * seb128 has no clue about vte and would prefer to stay away from this one | 08:23 | |
| willcooke | I dont think larsu cared either way, and I think Laney said they were ugly | 08:23 |
| willcooke | a community member tested and said it was fine | 08:24 |
| willcooke | and design said +1 | 08:24 |
| Laney | you make me sound mean :(((((((((((((((((((((((((((( | 08:24 |
| willcooke | but fait | 08:24 |
| willcooke | fair | 08:24 |
| willcooke | They do look uglyish | 08:24 |
| seb128 | if design +1 I think that settle it? | 08:25 |
| seb128 | then we need somebody to review the technical bits/upload | 08:25 |
| seb128 | which is were I was refering to the l* ;-) | 08:25 |
| willcooke | ahh | 08:25 |
| seb128 | where | 08:25 |
| willcooke | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubuntu-themes/+bug/762349 | 08:26 |
| ubot5 | Ubuntu bug 762349 in ubuntu-themes (Ubuntu Xenial) "Difficult to distinguish which tab is selected" [High,In progress] | 08:26 |
| willcooke | https://code.launchpad.net/~willcooke/ubuntu-themes/terminal-tabs/+merge/292055 | 08:26 |
| seb128 | willcooke, I'm going to try to get n-m and some other SRUs out of the way today, but if nobody else picks it up by then let's have a look next week? | 08:27 |
| willcooke | sure, no worries at all | 08:27 |
| Laney | what in the name of god is up with my network lately | 08:27 |
| Laney | it hangs for minutes at a time | 08:27 |
| willcooke | It's just a personal itch I'm scratching :) | 08:27 |
| willcooke | Laney, VPNs up? | 08:28 |
| Laney | no | 08:28 |
| Laney | it's not the network itself because my desktop works fine | 08:28 |
| Laney | and that's on the same switch | 08:28 |
| willcooke | my laptop does a weird thing when I have wifi and wired connected, it keeps asking for a new IP address every 30 mins or something | 08:29 |
| willcooke | could be similar | 08:29 |
| Laney | where is that logged? | 08:29 |
| willcooke | on my dhcp server :) | 08:29 |
| Laney | there's something about ipv6 in the journal | 08:29 |
| * willcooke has disable ipv6 | 08:30 | |
| Laney | since when did I have ipv6?!?!?!?!? | 08:30 |
| Laney | suspicious | 08:30 |
| happyaron | seb128: https://launchpad.net/~happyaron/+archive/ubuntu/network-manager/+sourcepub/6415256/+listing-archive-extra | 08:31 |
| happyaron | the nm thing | 08:31 |
| seb128 | happyaron, sorry, I mean to base it on the current SRU | 08:34 |
| happyaron | seb128: probably we want to SRU every nm plugin, I can't see any of the vpn plugin appear in the list except pptp | 08:34 |
| seb128 | which you did... the diff link is confusing | 08:34 |
| happyaron | :) | 08:34 |
| seb128 | happyaron, yeah, updating the plugins looks good. There is also a 1.2.2 update, need to do it and some point, though better for that bug to do the cherry pick to avoid potential issues with other changes that could delay the SRU | 08:35 |
| Sweet5hark | seb128: "solved" my snapcraft problem btw with a fresh sources.list -- dont know yet what caused the trouble with the old one (esp. only in snapcraft, while working fine outside) | 08:35 |
| seb128 | Sweet5hark, k, good to know! | 08:36 |
| happyaron | seb128: so we want those minor point releases being SRUed to xenial, if I understand correctly? | 08:36 |
| seb128 | happyaron, yes | 08:36 |
| seb128 | maybe get everything on 1.2 first | 08:36 |
| seb128 | then have a round for 1.2.2 | 08:36 |
| happyaron | ok | 08:37 |
| seb128 | happyaron, just uploaded your n-m-openconnect sru, looking at the n-m one now | 08:42 |
| happyaron | thanks | 08:43 |
| seb128 | happyaron, you might want to do the 1.2.2 update for y to start | 08:44 |
| happyaron | yep | 08:45 |
| happyaron | just updated the bug, not subscribing anyone atm | 08:45 |
| seb128 | happyaron, you might want a new bug for 1.2.2 | 08:46 |
| happyaron | OK | 08:46 |
| seb128 | is that what you meant? | 08:46 |
| seb128 | reusing the same ones make things more confusing | 08:46 |
| seb128 | like it was already verification-done and has comments | 08:46 |
| happyaron | yep | 08:46 |
| seb128 | get more difficult to know what applies to the current upload | 08:46 |
| happyaron | well I meant I updated lp #1574347 | 08:47 |
| ubot5 | Launchpad bug 1574347 in network-manager (Ubuntu Xenial) "[SRU]network-manager" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1574347 | 08:47 |
| happyaron | I can move other stuff to individual reports if that's preferred | 08:47 |
| seb128 | hum | 08:48 |
| seb128 | let's keep that one for the cherry pick I just uploaded | 08:48 |
| seb128 | and get a new one for 1.2.2 | 08:49 |
| happyaron | ok | 08:49 |
| seb128 | where we can add the different components | 08:49 |
| willcooke | ara, quick update... SRU for the suspend network manager issues is moving forwards ^ | 08:53 |
| ara | willcooke, \o/ thanks! | 08:54 |
| willcooke | thanks --> happyaron & seb128 | 08:54 |
| ara | happyaron, seb128: thanks! | 08:55 |
| seb128 | see #ubuntu-devel as well about that, just pinged to try to get it reviewed today | 08:56 |
| seb128 | willcooke, ara, btw just read that bluetooth one, unsure how important obexftp browsing from nautilus is, but it's not trivial work and I doubt we are going to get that soon unless we invest dev efforts on it | 08:57 |
| willcooke | yeah | 08:57 |
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| willcooke | I dont think it's something we would take on without there being a fix upstream | 08:57 |
| ara | seb128, yes, I agree, but I guess they are concerned that the browsing files button is still there | 08:57 |
| ara | not working | 08:58 |
| willcooke | ara, but you don't see it right? | 08:58 |
| seb128 | that we can fix | 08:58 |
| ara | willcooke, nope, I cannot see it | 08:58 |
| willcooke | strange | 08:58 |
| ara | willcooke, that's why I was asking Franz | 08:58 |
| ara | I only see Send Files (which works) | 08:58 |
| willcooke | I dont see anything at all about Bluetooth in Nautilus.. which I assume is because my phone doesnt do that | 08:58 |
| seb128 | I've "browse files" listed here on my krillin | 08:58 |
| seb128 | which is not around/connect | 08:58 |
| seb128 | not for my android phone though | 08:59 |
| seb128 | willcooke, it's not in nautilus | 08:59 |
| seb128 | it's in indicator-bluetooth for paired devices | 08:59 |
| willcooke | ah, I dont see anything there either | 08:59 |
| seb128 | depends of the device capability/protocol used I think | 08:59 |
| willcooke | yeah | 09:00 |
| * willcooke goes looking for an Android phone | 09:00 | |
| seb128 | willcooke, https://git.gnome.org/browse/gnome-bluetooth/commit/?id=d3e1698b3e9ded6fce35096ff3dba9cd8e5a3c8b | 09:00 |
| seb128 | "iDevices don't have OBEX support" | 09:00 |
| seb128 | basically | 09:00 |
| willcooke | ah, thanks seb128 | 09:01 |
| willcooke | I found an ancient HTC here... | 09:01 |
| willcooke | oh, looks like we might have a missing icon for audio devices | 09:02 |
| seb128 | where? | 09:03 |
| willcooke | u-c-c | 09:04 |
| willcooke | Bluetooth | 09:04 |
| willcooke | I have one of those BT speakers in the bathroom | 09:04 |
| willcooke | "BTS-06" | 09:04 |
| willcooke | and I've got the black box with a red no entry sign in it | 09:04 |
| willcooke | as the icon | 09:04 |
| seb128 | hum | 09:04 |
| willcooke | I'll run u-c-c in debug | 09:05 |
| seb128 | willcooke, bug #1555170 https://launchpadlibrarian.net/247270085/Capture%20du%202016-03-09%2016-15-47.png | 09:05 |
| ubot5 | bug 1555170 in unity-control-center (Ubuntu) "Bad icon for bluetooth sound device" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1555170 | 09:05 |
| willcooke | ara, seb128 - with this android device I only see send files | 09:06 |
| willcooke | so I think thats correct | 09:06 |
| seb128 | willcooke, yeah, as said same here, but with my ubuntu krillin I see the browse | 09:06 |
| willcooke | seb128, thats the one | 09:06 |
| seb128 | I'm going to debug that | 09:06 |
| willcooke | thanks seb128 | 09:06 |
| ara | seb128, ta! | 09:06 |
| seb128 | willcooke, do you see an icon if you see the icon theme to adwaita? | 09:09 |
| willcooke | seb128, nope - but I do in High Contrast | 09:10 |
| seb128 | can you screenshot it? | 09:10 |
| seb128 | so I see what icon it is | 09:10 |
| seb128 | trying to figure back the name | 09:10 |
| willcooke | seb128, added screenshot to https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/unity-control-center/+bug/1555170 | 09:13 |
| ubot5 | Ubuntu bug 1555170 in unity-control-center (Ubuntu) "Bad icon for bluetooth sound device" [Low,New] | 09:13 |
| seb128 | willcooke, thanks | 09:13 |
| seb128 | brb, moving back home | 09:13 |
| seb128 | willcooke, it seems like we are missing an "audio-speaker" icon | 09:27 |
| willcooke | that sounds like it :) | 09:28 |
| willcooke | audio-speaker*s* | 09:28 |
| seb128 | correct | 09:28 |
| happyaron | seb128: do you have access to retry it? https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/network-manager/1.2.0-0ubuntu0.16.04.2/+build/9730811 | 09:29 |
| seb128 | happyaron, done | 09:29 |
| happyaron | great | 09:29 |
| willcooke | seb128, we have audio-speakers-bluetooth-symbolic.svg | 09:29 |
| seb128 | willcooke, -symbolic as well | 09:29 |
| seb128 | willcooke, does sudo cp /usr/share/icons/gnome/scalable/devices/audio-speakers-symbolic.svg /usr/share/icons/gnome/scalable/devices/audio-speakers.svg | 09:30 |
| seb128 | workaround it? | 09:30 |
| seb128 | (need to restart u-c-c) | 09:30 |
| willcooke | seb128, I dont have the gnome icon theme | 09:31 |
| willcooke | but I do have /usr/share/icons/suru/devices/scalable/audio-speakers-bluetooth-symbolic.svg | 09:31 |
| willcooke | oh | 09:31 |
| willcooke | maybe /usr/share/icons/suru/devices/scalable/audio-speakers-symbolic.svg is better | 09:31 |
| seb128 | oh | 09:31 |
| seb128 | just cp one of those to /usr/share/icons/gnome/scalable/devices/audio-speakers.svg | 09:32 |
| seb128 | doesn't matter much what icon it is | 09:32 |
| seb128 | just to see if that's enough to fix it | 09:32 |
| willcooke | i need to mkdir /usr/share/icons/gnome/scalable/devices/ | 09:32 |
| willcooke | btw | 09:32 |
| willcooke | seb128, didnt make any different | 09:34 |
| seb128 | k | 09:34 |
| seb128 | oh, that's probably because the dir is not in the theme index | 09:34 |
| seb128 | since that theme is not installed | 09:34 |
| seb128 | would perhaps work if you copy in the humanity one | 09:35 |
| seb128 | bbiab | 09:35 |
| willcooke | seb128, fwiw - I installed tweak tool, and if I set the icon theme to Adwaita then it does work | 09:38 |
| willcooke | the default (Ubuntu-mono-dark) is, I assume where I want to put that icon, rather than Humanity? | 09:38 |
| andyrock | hey all | 09:40 |
| willcooke | hey andyrock | 09:40 |
| willcooke | seb128, oh, I think when you said change to Adwaita you meant the icon theme, not the gtk+ theme :) sorry | 09:41 |
| willcooke | so yeah, if I do that then it work | 09:42 |
| willcooke | s | 09:42 |
| * Sweet5hark fighting with vpns and stuff | 10:00 | |
| willcooke | seb128, sort of fixed | 10:36 |
| willcooke | seb128, copied the svg from Adaw. to Humanity | 10:37 |
| willcooke | sym linked it in all the devices sub dirs (22, 48, 64 etc etc) | 10:38 |
| willcooke | as "audio-speakers.svg" | 10:38 |
| willcooke | rebuilt the cahe | 10:38 |
| willcooke | can haz icon | 10:38 |
| Sweet5hark | *grmbl* building LibreOffice 5.2 alpha1: - using upstream bundled boost - using upstream bundled orcus => orcus builds b0rks on "this boost header is deprecated" | 10:39 |
| Sweet5hark | *grumble* | 10:39 |
| xnox | Sweet5hark, it probably bombed out elsewhere the deprecated headers usually are not a problem. | 10:40 |
| Sweet5hark | xnox: hmm, indeed. | 10:45 |
| Sweet5hark | xnox: seems like the "dot doesnt know which formats it can speak in snapcraft"-issue ... | 10:46 |
| * Sweet5hark adds "sudo dot -c" to snapcraft build. always a good idea ... | 10:48 | |
| willcooke | andyrock, hey! Are you blocked on https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/unity/+bug/1574759 ? | 10:57 |
| ubot5 | Ubuntu bug 1506744 in unity (Ubuntu) "duplicate for #1574759 Newly installed applications do not show in the dash" [High,Triaged] | 10:57 |
| willcooke | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/unity/+bug/1506744 | 10:57 |
| ubot5 | Ubuntu bug 1506744 in unity (Ubuntu) "Newly installed applications do not show in the dash" [High,Triaged] | 10:57 |
| andyrock | willcooke: yep | 10:57 |
| andyrock | i'm working on libunity side now | 10:57 |
| willcooke | andyrock, oki, desrt are you able to see if you can help andyrock out with that one at all? ^ | 10:57 |
| andyrock | for gnome-menus a simple timeout fix that | 10:58 |
| andyrock | libunity uses a cache system and i'm trying to figure out how to workaround it without breaking api | 10:58 |
| desrt | andyrock: did you get past the gmenu issue? | 11:01 |
| desrt | gnome menus, rather | 11:01 |
| andyrock | desrt: yep a simple timeout makes it work | 11:01 |
| andyrock | but libunity is using is hown cache | 11:01 |
| andyrock | *own | 11:01 |
| desrt | so this is unrelated brokeness now? | 11:01 |
| andyrock | yep | 11:02 |
| desrt | ah... and same problem i guess | 11:02 |
| andyrock | indeed | 11:02 |
| andyrock | but not so easy to fix | 11:02 |
| desrt | would the glib patch help? | 11:02 |
| andyrock | i think so | 11:02 |
| andyrock | but I'm trying to workaround it | 11:04 |
| andyrock | i'm sure a timeout in libunity is enough | 11:04 |
| andyrock | but still not sure where to put without impacting performances | 11:05 |
| seb128 | willcooke, try to see if tiheum can help us and make an icon for "audio-speakers"? | 11:14 |
| seb128 | pitti, so yeah, " /sys/class/drm/card0-LVDS-1/enabled:enabled" as expected | 11:16 |
| pitti | seb128: yes, just saw | 11:16 |
| seb128 | let's see if he tries without usd | 11:17 |
| willcooke | seb128, @ icon - done | 11:22 |
| seb128 | willcooke, thanks | 11:22 |
| willcooke | hopefully we can get a new new one | 11:22 |
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| seb128 | if not we can probably workaround | 11:23 |
| seb128 | like use one from the sound panel | 11:23 |
| willcooke | good plan | 11:29 |
| willcooke | desrt, please could you see if you can help with https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/unity-settings-daemon/+bug/1503758 as well | 11:34 |
| ubot5 | Ubuntu bug 1503758 in unity-settings-daemon (Ubuntu) "/usr/lib/unity-settings-daemon/unity-settings-daemon:5:XIQueryDevice:xdevice_get_dimensions:input_info_find_size_match:get_mappable_output_info:do_touchscreen_mapping" [High,Triaged] | 11:34 |
| willcooke | trying to work out what's causing the seg fault, right seb128 ? | 11:34 |
| seb128 | yeah | 11:37 |
| seb128 | it's likely that the device goes away while being configured | 11:37 |
| seb128 | the oem team is hitting that one on a specific config | 11:37 |
| seb128 | seems the display disconnect/reconnect when its config is changed | 11:37 |
| seb128 | in any case u-s-d shouldn't segfault in those case, maybe some callback not disconnected when the device is going away? | 11:38 |
| seb128 | or the xerror should be trapped/dealt with | 11:38 |
| willcooke | going for some excercise for the first time in..... too long | 11:54 |
| willcooke | pray for my safe return | 11:55 |
| Laney | what kind of exercise? | 11:55 |
| Laney | tell me it's a jog to the greasy spoon | 11:55 |
| willcooke | it'll be a walk to the driving range | 11:56 |
| willcooke | and then beat up some golf balls | 11:56 |
| willcooke | then a scotch egg | 11:56 |
| davmor2 | Laney: well he needs the carbohydrates | 11:56 |
| willcooke | couple of ciggies | 11:56 |
| willcooke | home! | 11:56 |
| seb128 | willcooke, enjoy! | 11:56 |
| Laney | nice | 11:56 |
| Laney | and then you can reward yourself with a dripping sandwich | 11:56 |
| Laney | OMFG | 11:57 |
| Laney | I just searched on DDG for "dripping sandwich" to get a picture of one | 11:57 |
| Laney | apparently this term has been used in porn | 11:57 |
| willcooke | and with that, away! | 11:57 |
| * Laney dies | 11:57 | |
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| desrt | willcooke: just about to board a flight | 12:40 |
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| willcooke | back | 13:09 |
| willcooke | desrt, nw - later in the week perhaps | 13:09 |
| willcooke | desrt, safe travels | 13:09 |
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| seb128 | willcooke, wb! how was the exercice? | 13:09 |
| willcooke | seb128, good! I feel fitter already! | 13:10 |
| willcooke | getting out of the house and in to the sunshine is a wonderful thing | 13:10 |
| Laney | happier | 13:10 |
| seb128 | great! | 13:10 |
| Laney | more productive | 13:10 |
| seb128 | yeah | 13:10 |
| pitti | wow, sunshine, *want* | 13:10 |
| seb128 | in the u.k? | 13:10 |
| seb128 | they are lying! | 13:10 |
| willcooke | thermometer says 27, but its in direct sun | 13:10 |
| Laney | it's nice today | 13:10 |
| willcooke | Summer 2.0 | 13:11 |
| seb128 | here as well actually | 13:11 |
| seb128 | the forecast moved a bit but they still say that saturday is going to be cold | 13:11 |
| pitti | I'm hoping for the weekend, we'll do a rafting tour on Sunday | 13:11 |
| seb128 | I hope you still get a sunny day for that! | 13:12 |
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| Trevinho | hey Laney do you remember about this https://code.launchpad.net/~3v1n0/gnome-session/upstart-export-variables/+merge/293236 ? | 13:13 |
| Laney | sure | 13:15 |
| * Trevinho has to keep a list of things to SRU too | 13:29 | |
| Laney | trellooooooooooooo | 13:32 |
| * seb128 likes the sound of SRUs | 13:36 | |
| seb128 | speaking of which | 13:36 |
| Trevinho | Laney: yeah, i already was doing that | 13:36 |
| seb128 | pitti, I guess you didn't have a slot of the upower issue yet? | 13:36 |
| seb128 | Laney, attente, who of you is going to handle the next g-s SRU? we should get going with that | 13:37 |
| pitti | seb128: not yet, sorry; doing some urgent postgresql SRUs, and I've spent two hours on SRU review/cleanup so far | 13:37 |
| pitti | not many people are reviewing SRUs these days :/ | 13:37 |
| seb128 | pitti, no worry, good luck with postgresql! | 13:38 |
| Laney | it's not going to be me | 13:38 |
| Laney | robert_ancell or attent_e | 13:38 |
| seb128 | Laney, ok, so I guess it makes attent_e in charge | 13:38 |
| seb128 | which means we are probably not going to get the stable update :p | 13:38 |
| Laney | he's in charge anyway | 13:39 |
| seb128 | not going to bother him during the sprint | 13:39 |
| seb128 | I guess that put us for next week :-/ | 13:39 |
| Laney | I wouldn't be slanty face about it | 13:40 |
| Laney | it would take somebody else the rest of the week and more to figure out the update themselves | 13:40 |
| Laney | he's already got the branch updated | 13:40 |
| Laney | Trevinho: if you want to SRU this gnome-session and upstart stuff then could you make the bug SRU compliant? | 13:41 |
| Laney | could upload g-s at the same time | 13:41 |
| seb128 | Laney, right, it has some issues but the main one (notification) is probably not addressed by the rebase anyway so needs some more work before upload | 13:42 |
| Laney | wtf | 13:42 |
| Laney | I keep doing bzr branch lp:~ubuntu-desktop/... | 13:42 |
| Laney | cd ubuntu | 13:42 |
| Laney | bzr branch lp:~branch-to-sponsor | 13:42 |
| Laney | instead of bzr merge | 13:42 |
| Laney | done it like 4 times in the last week | 13:42 |
| seb128 | where is that coming from? ;-) | 13:42 |
| Laney | I forgot how to bzr?!?!?! | 13:42 |
| seb128 | git g-s workflow? | 13:43 |
| seb128 | though you would checkout to change branch | 13:43 |
| Laney | weird | 13:43 |
| Trevinho | Laney: sure | 13:47 |
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| Trevinho | Laney: do we also need new branches for SRU? As I'm unsure how upstart is managed | 13:48 |
| Trevinho | we also have to include https://code.launchpad.net/~3v1n0/upstart/activation-proper-dbus-path/+merge/294025 but I'm waiting xnox to merge to Y before | 13:49 |
| * happyaron is forgetting bzr and goes git on LP for NM | 13:51 | |
| seb128 | happyaron, let us know how it works for you! | 13:53 |
| Laney | Trevinho: You could do if you want, currently the package uses lp:~ubuntu-core-dev/upstart/ubuntu | 13:53 |
| Laney | could make ubuntu-xenial for 16.04 | 13:53 |
| Laney | if you fix Vcs-Bzr in debian/control at the same time | 13:53 |
| Trevinho | I'm not much familiar into that vcs-bzr thing, but I can have a look at it | 13:54 |
| Laney | branch the tag that X released with | 13:54 |
| Laney | cherry-pick the things from ^ branch | 13:54 |
| Laney | write changelog | 13:54 |
| Laney | fix Vcs-Bzr | 13:54 |
| Laney | ask for sponsorship | 13:54 |
| Laney | ??? | 13:54 |
| Laney | profit | 13:54 |
| willcooke | seb128, Laney - do you know... are rejected uploads still held somewhere so they can be resurrected? | 14:02 |
| seb128 | Laney, easy review if you could do it, https://code.launchpad.net/~seb128/unity-control-center/bluetooth-leftover-button/+merge/294508 ? | 14:02 |
| Laney | willcooke: there's a rejected queue | 14:03 |
| seb128 | willcooke, yes, https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/xenial/+queue | 14:03 |
| willcooke | tkamppeter, ^ | 14:03 |
| willcooke | thanks chaps | 14:03 |
| seb128 | change the combo | 14:03 |
| Laney | Trevinho: hmm | 14:03 |
| Laney | did you measure how long this dbus call takes? | 14:03 |
| willcooke | seb128, thanks for the BT Browse fix | 14:03 |
| seb128 | willcooke, yw! | 14:03 |
| Trevinho | Laney: mh, no... is it causing any loop? | 14:03 |
| Laney | Trevinho: dunno, I just tried it and it "felt" longer | 14:04 |
| Laney | I wonder if it is a non trivial amount | 14:04 |
| Laney | I was looking for problems though so might be false | 14:04 |
| Trevinho | Laney: did you try on command line or using that g-s branch? | 14:04 |
| Trevinho | we could move it to be async if we are worried of that | 14:04 |
| Laney | branch | 14:05 |
| Laney | I dunno, I could have made it up | 14:05 |
| Trevinho | Laney: you can also indirectly test it by manually calliing dbus call --session --dest org.gnome.SessionManager --object-path /org/gnome/SessionManager --method org.gnome.SessionManager.Setenv | 14:08 |
| Trevinho | with the patch or without... So we can have numbers | 14:08 |
| Laney | nod | 14:11 |
| Laney | I have it ready to upload once you find out | 14:12 |
| Laney | pitti: thanks for your SRU work! | 14:13 |
| * Laney is getting all the emails | 14:13 | |
| pitti | Laney: yw; there was some much-needed cleanup of old releases, and apparently xenial reviews are underloved too :/ | 14:13 |
| Laney | it was mainly arges doing reviews before now | 14:13 |
| Laney | not sure if that changed lately | 14:14 |
| seb128 | yeah, would be nice to have some more people doing SRU reviews | 14:17 |
| seb128 | same with MIR, NEW, etc | 14:17 |
| seb128 | nothing new there :-/ | 14:18 |
| Laney | seb128: you know that time you allocated to do TB work? | 14:18 |
| Laney | :) :) :) :) | 14:18 |
| Laney | (: (: (: (: | 14:18 |
| seb128 | yeah, that's back when I was motivated | 14:18 |
| seb128 | before being rejected | 14:18 |
| seb128 | :p | 14:18 |
| Laney | nothing more motivating than reviewing stable release updates | 14:20 |
| * Laney is campaign manager for "seb128 for ~ubuntu-sru 2016" | 14:20 | |
| seb128 | lol | 14:21 |
| seb128 | Laney, joke aside I tried that once | 14:22 |
| seb128 | I proposed to help/asked on IRC | 14:22 |
| seb128 | just got ignored | 14:22 |
| pitti | seb128: oh, what? please do! | 14:23 |
| seb128 | pitti, well, as said I tried, but seems there is no formal process and the current team had no interested | 14:24 |
| seb128 | -ed | 14:24 |
| pitti | there is hardly a "team" right now; you have to nag people on IRC, or sometimes I pluck up courage and do a round, but we don't have a formal roster any more | 14:25 |
| seb128 | but yeah, maybe I should considered asking again | 14:25 |
| pitti | infinity and slangasek are admins | 14:26 |
| seb128 | pitti, thanks for the work you are doing on those btw! | 14:26 |
| * pitti hugs seb128 and Laney :) | 14:26 | |
| * seb128 hugs pitti & Laney | 14:27 | |
| * Laney hugs seb128 and pitti | 14:28 | |
| * Laney whispers "pitti for ~ubuntu-sru admin" | 14:28 | |
| Laney | those teams feel a bit closed | 14:29 |
| * Laney goes back to pagerduty instead of complaining about this any more | 14:29 | |
| seb128 | yeah, it's like TB, it feels like that if you are no part of some circles you are never going to make it into those... | 14:30 |
| pitti | ZE CABAL! | 14:30 |
| seb128 | though the TB is a vote, so different | 14:30 |
| seb128 | but we tend to have the same people involved in the decisions so it goes round | 14:31 |
| pitti | seb128: apparently you didn't hand out enough gummybears, or free CDs or something | 14:31 |
| seb128 | yeah, I blame Laney, he was my compaign manager for that one as well! | 14:32 |
| pitti | fire him | 14:33 |
| * Laney is a secret agent of the foundations team | 14:33 | |
| seb128 | Laney is on a master plan to join foundations and move on the safe side of things in UOS | 14:34 |
| pitti | /msg Laney you were not suppposed to say that in a public channel; you just lost your business class and SRU review priority privileges | 14:34 |
| Laney | there goes my free trips on canonical one | 14:35 |
| GunnarHj | seb128: Thanks for correcting me about Brasero. (According to LP, version 3.12.1-1ubuntu2 was published as late as April 8 - possibly that's what confused me.) | 14:37 |
| GunnarHj | For which universe packages is it appropriate to use "X-Ubuntu-Use-Langpack: yes"? | 14:37 |
| seb128 | GunnarHj, any that we want to be translated with langpacks | 14:37 |
| GunnarHj | seb128: Sure. ;) And those are...? (I suppose we don't want to spam LP's translation interface.) | 14:39 |
| seb128 | GunnarHj, I don't really have an answer to that, any desktop software is fine, brasero can use it | 14:41 |
| GunnarHj | seb128: Ok. | 14:41 |
| seb128 | GunnarHj, I think somebody had a look back then, even if that was activated for all package in universe it wouldn't be an issue, there are not that many packages using gettext/domain translations | 14:41 |
| GunnarHj | seb128: As regards enabling it in Xenial for Brasero, a full langpack build is planned to happen on June 26. | 14:42 |
| seb128 | speaking of which... | 14:43 |
| seb128 | is that the first xenial langpack update planned? | 14:43 |
| seb128 | we should perhaps have one sooner to fix evolution&co | 14:43 |
| seb128 | pitti, ^ | 14:44 |
| seb128 | opinion? | 14:44 |
| GunnarHj | seb128: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Translations/XenialXerus/ReleaseSchedule | 14:45 |
| GunnarHj | seb128, pitti: We could of course add an update before that, but since I'm going to bother the translators with an ubuntu-docs SRU, I was disinclinded to propose that. | 14:46 |
| pitti | seb128, GunnarHj: I don't mind either way; uploading an update is easy; verifying it is work | 15:00 |
| seb128 | Laney, thanks for the review! | 15:06 |
| Laney | no probs | 15:06 |
| ximion | Laney: who do I need to bribe so Ubuntu is updating PackageKit on Yakkety? | 15:08 |
| ximion | that ancient version has bugs (recently broke Samba in Xenial), and also makes the life of Kubuntu people miserable due to a version mismatch between QPK and PK | 15:09 |
| Laney | ximion: It's on the plan but it is some work so you'll have to be patient | 15:16 |
| ximion | Laney: okay, thanks - with a reply like that I am happy already ^^ | 15:16 |
| willcooke | ximion, please feel free to pay bribes though | 15:21 |
| GunnarHj | seb128: What issue does "fix evolution&co" refer to? | 15:22 |
| ximion | :D | 15:22 |
| seb128 | GunnarHj, bug #1545212 | 15:24 |
| ubot5 | bug 1545212 in language-pack-fr-base (Ubuntu) "Evolution 3.18.4 package does not include translations" [High,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1545212 | 15:24 |
| seb128 | GunnarHj, due to a but in langpack-o-matic evolution is not translated in xenial | 15:24 |
| seb128 | the .mo are missing from the release langpacks | 15:24 |
| GunnarHj | seb128: I see. Do you know if an ordinary langpack update (not -base) would be sufficient? | 15:33 |
| seb128 | I don't sorry | 15:35 |
| GunnarHj | seb128: I'll try to check... | 15:36 |
| seb128 | GunnarHj, thanks | 15:36 |
| GunnarHj | seb128, pitti: Don't find anything evolution in the latest PPA langpacks, so I suppose that a full language pack update is required to have the evolution .mo files installed. Considering the ubuntu-docs SRU I mentioned, which was triggered by e.g. the late "Software" -> "Ubuntu Software" change, I would really suggest that we don't add another full langpack update before the one I mentioned on June 26. | 15:50 |
| GunnarHj | seb128, pitti: Let's work towards 16.04.1 in this respect. | 15:51 |
| seb128 | GunnarHj, ok, it means LTS users are let without evolution translated for a while :-/ | 15:52 |
| GunnarHj | seb128: Yeah, if you accept my view, I'm afraid so. | 15:53 |
| seb128 | I'm pondering doing an evolution upload without langpacks then | 15:53 |
| seb128 | but we have some ubuntu specific strings that wouldn't be translated in that case | 15:54 |
| GunnarHj | seb128: That's one option. Or maybe pitti can figure out some other "special". | 15:54 |
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| Trevinho | Laney: these are my numbers: http://paste.ubuntu.com/16377806/ | 16:35 |
| willcooke | seb128, do you have /usr/share/icons/Adwaita/24x24/devices/audio-speakers.png | 16:45 |
| seb128 | willcooke, no, is that one that you manually copied? | 16:47 |
| Laney | Trevinho: hmm, what do you think? | 16:48 |
| willcooke | tiheum, is that icon on 14.04? | 16:48 |
| willcooke | I wonder if we lost it in 16.04 some how | 16:48 |
| seb128 | willcooke, adwaita is the GNOME theme | 16:48 |
| seb128 | we don't use it | 16:48 |
| willcooke | seb128, just looking for an icon to use. tiheum suggested we use the Adwa. one, but I dont have it | 16:48 |
| seb128 | oh | 16:49 |
| seb128 | /usr/share/icons/Adwaita/24x24/devices/audio-speakers.png adwaita-icon-theme-full | 16:49 |
| seb128 | willcooke, http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?searchon=contents&keywords=audio-speakers.png&mode=exactfilename&suite=xenial&arch=any | 16:49 |
| seb128 | is your friend | 16:49 |
| seb128 | it's in adwaita-icon-theme-full | 16:49 |
| willcooke | ohhhhhhhhhh | 16:49 |
| willcooke | nice | 16:49 |
| willcooke | thanks seb128 | 16:49 |
| willcooke | I was just googling it :) | 16:49 |
| seb128 | bah | 16:50 |
| seb128 | ok, it's easy to fix | 16:50 |
| seb128 | the -full split is to not have too much space used by icon on the iso | 16:50 |
| seb128 | we just need to move audio-speaker to the non full version | 16:51 |
| willcooke | in Adwaita? So it will fall back to using it? | 16:51 |
| seb128 | yes | 16:52 |
| willcooke | nice | 16:52 |
| seb128 | willcooke, see /usr/share/icons/ubuntu-mono-light/index.theme | 16:52 |
| seb128 | Inherits=Humanity,Adwaita,hicolor | 16:52 |
| willcooke | ahh | 16:52 |
| willcooke | got it | 16:52 |
| seb128 | so it looks into those | 16:52 |
| seb128 | willcooke, ifyou want to fix that, get adwaita-icon-theme and change debian/not-in-humanity.txt to list that icon | 16:54 |
| seb128 | + changelog update | 16:54 |
| seb128 | but don't bother, I can do that | 16:55 |
| willcooke | sure? I can | 16:55 |
| seb128 | willcooke, you can install adwaita-icon-theme-full though to test, since it provides the icon | 16:55 |
| seb128 | that should fix the ui | 16:55 |
| willcooke | will do... | 16:55 |
| seb128 | thanks | 16:55 |
| willcooke | unpick my hacks first... | 16:55 |
| * davmor2 gentle tug on this thread and watches all of willcooke hacks disappear | 16:58 | |
| willcooke | seb128, confirmed, fixes it | 16:58 |
| seb128 | great | 16:59 |
| seb128 | thanks for confirming | 16:59 |
| * willcooke is helping at Beavers tonight | 17:04 | |
| willcooke | so gotta shoot off | 17:04 |
| willcooke | bbl I expect to finish the JDs | 17:04 |
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| Laney | night | 17:10 |
| mhall119 | Laney: seb128: is there some special environment variable or something that tells GEdit to not use it's Headerbar? | 17:12 |
| Trevinho | mhall119: it should use a gtk-setting: gtk-shell-shows-app-menu | 17:22 |
| Sweet5hark | woha, be careful out there! | 17:22 |
| Sweet5hark | pitti is out with an axe killing zombie uploads in precise! | 17:23 |
| Trevinho | Laney: ah, well... about those numbers I think there's nothing wrong,, | 17:30 |
| Sweet5hark | seb128: https://plus.google.com/101094190333184858950/posts/2ehJvvHv8Ue | 17:55 |
| * Sweet5hark s fingers slipped. | 17:55 | |
| mhall119 | Trevinho: where is that setting? | 18:35 |
| Trevinho | mhall119: is managed by unity-setttings-daemon, but you should be able to override that using a settings.ini file as described by https://developer.gnome.org/gtk3/stable/GtkSettings.html#GtkSettings.description | 18:39 |
| mhall119 | Trevinho: hmmm, should unity-settings-daemon manage it in a unity 8 session too? | 18:43 |
| seb128 | there is no *x*settings under a non-X session | 18:43 |
| seb128 | which is what u-s-d does | 18:44 |
| mhall119 | seb128: I just got to that part of the link Trevinho sent, it's starting to make sense now | 18:44 |
| mhall119 | "sense" in the "why was the display serving doing this in the first place" way anyway | 18:44 |
| mhall119 | Trevinho: setting gtk-shell-shows-app-menu doesn't seem to have any affect | 19:05 |
| mhall119 | maybe ubuntu-app-test is breaking it | 19:07 |
| willcooke | hi robert_ancell, night robert_ancell | 21:16 |
| robert_ancell | willcooke, hi bye | 21:16 |
| willcooke | night all | 21:16 |
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