[04:48] hi [05:04] Morning hikiko [05:05] hello duflu :-) [05:05] how are you ? [05:06] hikiko: Good, I think. You? [05:13] good [05:14] ; [05:14] Sorry [05:15] hikiko: BTW I looked at kgunn's spreadsheet this morning. You hadn't filled it out yet. See email titled 'sprint?' [07:13] goood morning desktoppers! [07:13] Hey Sweet5hark. [07:16] heya [07:24] Good morning [07:24] hey Sweet5hark TheMuso, pitti, how are you? [07:25] seb128: quite fine, thanks! nice basketball game last night; how about you? [07:25] * Sweet5hark is "woken due to construction in neighbor appartment" ;) [07:25] hello Sweet5hark! [07:26] pitti, I'm good thanks! a bit tired, though I didn't do sport yesterday evening [07:26] Sweet5hark: Yep that would suck, particularly when the concrete is being drilled into/hammered etc. [07:26] TheMuso: yes, that ;) [07:27] pitti: heya, you shadow desktop team member ;) [07:27] pitti, sorry for getting those lid close debug info wrong, though I think the | grep systemd was ok since logind output is "systemd-logind" [07:27] seb128: oh, you're right [07:28] seb128: I misread that, sorry [07:28] pitti, no worry [07:31] seb128: I followed up to the bug again [07:31] pitti, danke [07:32] pitti, I'm out of ideas now on that bug though :-/ [07:32] it's not a inhibit lock [07:32] it's not an external display [07:33] and suspend through menu works too, so the kernel/hw bits work too [07:33] seb128: do we have an u-settings-daemon debug log from the power plugin already? [07:34] to see whether that spits out anything useful? [07:34] no [07:34] pitti, but that user stated that "HandleLidSwitchDocked=suspend in /etc/systemd/logind.conf" make things work [07:34] right, which essentially short-circuits u-settings-daemon [07:35] seb128: the /sys/class/drm/* thing still looks a bit suspicious though, as if card0-HDMI-A-1 was enabled [07:36] right [07:36] but xrandr disagrees [07:36] LVDS connected primary 1366x768+0+0 (normal left inverted right x axis y axis) 344mm x 194mm [07:36] HDMI-0 disconnected (normal left inverted right x axis y axis) [07:36] VGA-0 disconnected (normal left inverted right x axis y axis) [07:37] let's wait for the grep -r output [07:37] just to make sure [07:37] yeah, could just be different sort order of ls vs. glob [07:37] is u-s-d involved in suspend nowadays? [07:37] or is it just taking inhibit locks [07:38] and otherwise letting systemd do the work? [07:38] it should work mostly through inhibitors and logind AFAIK [07:38] i. e. setting block inhibitors if you configure it to not suspend [07:38] but that was from a few years ago, I don't remember the details any more, need to look at the power plugin [08:03] morningu [08:07] o/ [08:08] hey Laney and willcooke! [08:09] Hey willcooke. [08:10] hey pitti TheMuso [08:11] back [08:11] good morning Laney & willcooke! === Saviq_ is now known as Saviq [08:11] morning seb128 [08:11] (sorry went out to get some coffee and took me a bit to get back online, that coffee place changed their wifi password :p) [08:11] hah! [08:12] they added a "-" in the middle, go figure :p [08:12] coffee shop at this hour already, tsk.. [08:13] lol [08:13] when in holland... [08:14] trololol [08:14] morning pitti seb128 willcooke et TheMuso! [08:14] happyaron, thanks for moving that NM SRU forwards [08:15] * seb128 would like to point out that there is still one day to go before friday! [08:16] heh, seb128 I made a note last night to follow up the white corners in Calendar issue, and this morning when I check the bug I see you've already looked at it 20 mins ago :) [08:16] willcooke, yeah, it was on my list, trying to get some SRUs uploaded today [08:16] * willcooke puts on his tin foil hat [08:16] it's fixed in 3.20.2 [08:16] yeah [08:17] t'is good [08:17] we might need a theme change as well [08:17] so I would like you to consider the coloured tabs in Terminal as well [08:17] Laney, right, which is the version I uploaded [08:17] or I think? [08:18] yes, that's right, you made me doubt for a sec :p [08:18] seb128, shall I do an MP for the calendar theme change? [08:18] willcooke, what change? [08:18] seb128, https://launchpadlibrarian.net/256667600/themepatch.txt [08:18] we already had the transparent bg thing [08:19] we need some .views bits and pieces as well [08:19] it works with our current theme [08:19] well at least on my xenial [08:19] oki, lemme clean up my test machine and try it [08:19] I included the rules that was supposed to work but didn't, before xenial [08:19] that update made it work [08:19] ahhh [08:19] oh, no [08:19] humm [08:19] lemme try it [08:20] did you already get the update? [08:20] I uploaded that like half an hour ago [08:20] not yet [08:20] k [08:20] I was wondering [08:20] I need to wipe my test machine it's in funny state [08:20] so I can do that now [08:21] so terminal tabs..... [08:22] gooo onnnnnnnnnnnn [08:22] did you ever get any feedback from Laney or larsu? [08:23] * seb128 has no clue about vte and would prefer to stay away from this one [08:23] I dont think larsu cared either way, and I think Laney said they were ugly [08:24] a community member tested and said it was fine [08:24] and design said +1 [08:24] you make me sound mean :(((((((((((((((((((((((((((( [08:24] but fait [08:24] fair [08:24] They do look uglyish [08:25] if design +1 I think that settle it? [08:25] then we need somebody to review the technical bits/upload [08:25] which is were I was refering to the l* ;-) [08:25] ahh [08:25] where [08:26] https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubuntu-themes/+bug/762349 [08:26] Ubuntu bug 762349 in ubuntu-themes (Ubuntu Xenial) "Difficult to distinguish which tab is selected" [High,In progress] [08:26] https://code.launchpad.net/~willcooke/ubuntu-themes/terminal-tabs/+merge/292055 [08:27] willcooke, I'm going to try to get n-m and some other SRUs out of the way today, but if nobody else picks it up by then let's have a look next week? [08:27] sure, no worries at all [08:27] what in the name of god is up with my network lately [08:27] it hangs for minutes at a time [08:27] It's just a personal itch I'm scratching :) [08:28] Laney, VPNs up? [08:28] no [08:28] it's not the network itself because my desktop works fine [08:28] and that's on the same switch [08:29] my laptop does a weird thing when I have wifi and wired connected, it keeps asking for a new IP address every 30 mins or something [08:29] could be similar [08:29] where is that logged? [08:29] on my dhcp server :) [08:29] there's something about ipv6 in the journal [08:30] * willcooke has disable ipv6 [08:30] since when did I have ipv6?!?!?!?!? [08:30] suspicious [08:31] seb128: https://launchpad.net/~happyaron/+archive/ubuntu/network-manager/+sourcepub/6415256/+listing-archive-extra [08:31] the nm thing [08:34] happyaron, sorry, I mean to base it on the current SRU [08:34] seb128: probably we want to SRU every nm plugin, I can't see any of the vpn plugin appear in the list except pptp [08:34] which you did... the diff link is confusing [08:34] :) [08:35] happyaron, yeah, updating the plugins looks good. There is also a 1.2.2 update, need to do it and some point, though better for that bug to do the cherry pick to avoid potential issues with other changes that could delay the SRU [08:35] seb128: "solved" my snapcraft problem btw with a fresh sources.list -- dont know yet what caused the trouble with the old one (esp. only in snapcraft, while working fine outside) [08:36] Sweet5hark, k, good to know! [08:36] seb128: so we want those minor point releases being SRUed to xenial, if I understand correctly? [08:36] happyaron, yes [08:36] maybe get everything on 1.2 first [08:36] then have a round for 1.2.2 [08:37] ok [08:42] happyaron, just uploaded your n-m-openconnect sru, looking at the n-m one now [08:43] thanks [08:44] happyaron, you might want to do the 1.2.2 update for y to start [08:45] yep [08:45] just updated the bug, not subscribing anyone atm [08:46] happyaron, you might want a new bug for 1.2.2 [08:46] OK [08:46] is that what you meant? [08:46] reusing the same ones make things more confusing [08:46] like it was already verification-done and has comments [08:46] yep [08:46] get more difficult to know what applies to the current upload [08:47] well I meant I updated lp #1574347 [08:47] Launchpad bug 1574347 in network-manager (Ubuntu Xenial) "[SRU]network-manager" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1574347 [08:47] I can move other stuff to individual reports if that's preferred [08:48] hum [08:48] let's keep that one for the cherry pick I just uploaded [08:49] and get a new one for 1.2.2 [08:49] ok [08:49] where we can add the different components [08:53] ara, quick update... SRU for the suspend network manager issues is moving forwards ^ [08:54] willcooke, \o/ thanks! [08:54] thanks --> happyaron & seb128 [08:55] happyaron, seb128: thanks! [08:56] see #ubuntu-devel as well about that, just pinged to try to get it reviewed today [08:57] willcooke, ara, btw just read that bluetooth one, unsure how important obexftp browsing from nautilus is, but it's not trivial work and I doubt we are going to get that soon unless we invest dev efforts on it [08:57] yeah === thumper is now known as thumper-afk [08:57] I dont think it's something we would take on without there being a fix upstream [08:57] seb128, yes, I agree, but I guess they are concerned that the browsing files button is still there [08:58] not working [08:58] ara, but you don't see it right? [08:58] that we can fix [08:58] willcooke, nope, I cannot see it [08:58] strange [08:58] willcooke, that's why I was asking Franz [08:58] I only see Send Files (which works) [08:58] I dont see anything at all about Bluetooth in Nautilus.. which I assume is because my phone doesnt do that [08:58] I've "browse files" listed here on my krillin [08:58] which is not around/connect [08:59] not for my android phone though [08:59] willcooke, it's not in nautilus [08:59] it's in indicator-bluetooth for paired devices [08:59] ah, I dont see anything there either [08:59] depends of the device capability/protocol used I think [09:00] yeah [09:00] * willcooke goes looking for an Android phone [09:00] willcooke, https://git.gnome.org/browse/gnome-bluetooth/commit/?id=d3e1698b3e9ded6fce35096ff3dba9cd8e5a3c8b [09:00] "iDevices don't have OBEX support" [09:00] basically [09:01] ah, thanks seb128 [09:01] I found an ancient HTC here... [09:02] oh, looks like we might have a missing icon for audio devices [09:03] where? [09:04] u-c-c [09:04] Bluetooth [09:04] I have one of those BT speakers in the bathroom [09:04] "BTS-06" [09:04] and I've got the black box with a red no entry sign in it [09:04] as the icon [09:04] hum [09:05] I'll run u-c-c in debug [09:05] willcooke, bug #1555170 https://launchpadlibrarian.net/247270085/Capture%20du%202016-03-09%2016-15-47.png [09:05] bug 1555170 in unity-control-center (Ubuntu) "Bad icon for bluetooth sound device" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1555170 [09:06] ara, seb128 - with this android device I only see send files [09:06] so I think thats correct [09:06] willcooke, yeah, as said same here, but with my ubuntu krillin I see the browse [09:06] seb128, thats the one [09:06] I'm going to debug that [09:06] thanks seb128 [09:06] seb128, ta! [09:09] willcooke, do you see an icon if you see the icon theme to adwaita? [09:10] seb128, nope - but I do in High Contrast [09:10] can you screenshot it? [09:10] so I see what icon it is [09:10] trying to figure back the name [09:13] seb128, added screenshot to https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/unity-control-center/+bug/1555170 [09:13] Ubuntu bug 1555170 in unity-control-center (Ubuntu) "Bad icon for bluetooth sound device" [Low,New] [09:13] willcooke, thanks [09:13] brb, moving back home [09:27] willcooke, it seems like we are missing an "audio-speaker" icon [09:28] that sounds like it :) [09:28] audio-speaker*s* [09:28] correct [09:29] seb128: do you have access to retry it? https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/network-manager/1.2.0-0ubuntu0.16.04.2/+build/9730811 [09:29] happyaron, done [09:29] great [09:29] seb128, we have audio-speakers-bluetooth-symbolic.svg [09:29] willcooke, -symbolic as well [09:30] willcooke, does sudo cp /usr/share/icons/gnome/scalable/devices/audio-speakers-symbolic.svg /usr/share/icons/gnome/scalable/devices/audio-speakers.svg [09:30] workaround it? [09:30] (need to restart u-c-c) [09:31] seb128, I dont have the gnome icon theme [09:31] but I do have /usr/share/icons/suru/devices/scalable/audio-speakers-bluetooth-symbolic.svg [09:31] oh [09:31] maybe /usr/share/icons/suru/devices/scalable/audio-speakers-symbolic.svg is better [09:31] oh [09:32] just cp one of those to /usr/share/icons/gnome/scalable/devices/audio-speakers.svg [09:32] doesn't matter much what icon it is [09:32] just to see if that's enough to fix it [09:32] i need to mkdir /usr/share/icons/gnome/scalable/devices/ [09:32] btw [09:34] seb128, didnt make any different [09:34] k [09:34] oh, that's probably because the dir is not in the theme index [09:34] since that theme is not installed [09:35] would perhaps work if you copy in the humanity one [09:35] bbiab [09:38] seb128, fwiw - I installed tweak tool, and if I set the icon theme to Adwaita then it does work [09:38] the default (Ubuntu-mono-dark) is, I assume where I want to put that icon, rather than Humanity? [09:40] hey all [09:40] hey andyrock [09:41] seb128, oh, I think when you said change to Adwaita you meant the icon theme, not the gtk+ theme :) sorry [09:42] so yeah, if I do that then it work [09:42] s [10:00] * Sweet5hark fighting with vpns and stuff [10:36] seb128, sort of fixed [10:37] seb128, copied the svg from Adaw. to Humanity [10:38] sym linked it in all the devices sub dirs (22, 48, 64 etc etc) [10:38] as "audio-speakers.svg" [10:38] rebuilt the cahe [10:38] can haz icon [10:39] *grmbl* building LibreOffice 5.2 alpha1: - using upstream bundled boost - using upstream bundled orcus => orcus builds b0rks on "this boost header is deprecated" [10:39] *grumble* [10:40] Sweet5hark, it probably bombed out elsewhere the deprecated headers usually are not a problem. [10:45] xnox: hmm, indeed. [10:46] xnox: seems like the "dot doesnt know which formats it can speak in snapcraft"-issue ... [10:48] * Sweet5hark adds "sudo dot -c" to snapcraft build. always a good idea ... [10:57] andyrock, hey! Are you blocked on https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/unity/+bug/1574759 ? [10:57] Ubuntu bug 1506744 in unity (Ubuntu) "duplicate for #1574759 Newly installed applications do not show in the dash" [High,Triaged] [10:57] https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/unity/+bug/1506744 [10:57] Ubuntu bug 1506744 in unity (Ubuntu) "Newly installed applications do not show in the dash" [High,Triaged] [10:57] willcooke: yep [10:57] i'm working on libunity side now [10:57] andyrock, oki, desrt are you able to see if you can help andyrock out with that one at all? ^ [10:58] for gnome-menus a simple timeout fix that [10:58] libunity uses a cache system and i'm trying to figure out how to workaround it without breaking api [11:01] andyrock: did you get past the gmenu issue? [11:01] gnome menus, rather [11:01] desrt: yep a simple timeout makes it work [11:01] but libunity is using is hown cache [11:01] *own [11:01] so this is unrelated brokeness now? [11:02] yep [11:02] ah... and same problem i guess [11:02] indeed [11:02] but not so easy to fix [11:02] would the glib patch help? [11:02] i think so [11:04] but I'm trying to workaround it [11:04] i'm sure a timeout in libunity is enough [11:05] but still not sure where to put without impacting performances [11:14] willcooke, try to see if tiheum can help us and make an icon for "audio-speakers"? [11:16] pitti, so yeah, " /sys/class/drm/card0-LVDS-1/enabled:enabled" as expected [11:16] seb128: yes, just saw [11:17] let's see if he tries without usd [11:22] seb128, @ icon - done [11:22] willcooke, thanks [11:22] hopefully we can get a new new one === hikiko is now known as hikiko|ln [11:23] if not we can probably workaround [11:23] like use one from the sound panel [11:29] good plan [11:34] desrt, please could you see if you can help with https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/unity-settings-daemon/+bug/1503758 as well [11:34] Ubuntu bug 1503758 in unity-settings-daemon (Ubuntu) "/usr/lib/unity-settings-daemon/unity-settings-daemon:5:XIQueryDevice:xdevice_get_dimensions:input_info_find_size_match:get_mappable_output_info:do_touchscreen_mapping" [High,Triaged] [11:34] trying to work out what's causing the seg fault, right seb128 ? [11:37] yeah [11:37] it's likely that the device goes away while being configured [11:37] the oem team is hitting that one on a specific config [11:37] seems the display disconnect/reconnect when its config is changed [11:38] in any case u-s-d shouldn't segfault in those case, maybe some callback not disconnected when the device is going away? [11:38] or the xerror should be trapped/dealt with [11:54] going for some excercise for the first time in..... too long [11:55] pray for my safe return [11:55] what kind of exercise? [11:55] tell me it's a jog to the greasy spoon [11:56] it'll be a walk to the driving range [11:56] and then beat up some golf balls [11:56] then a scotch egg [11:56] Laney: well he needs the carbohydrates [11:56] couple of ciggies [11:56] home! [11:56] willcooke, enjoy! [11:56] nice [11:56] and then you can reward yourself with a dripping sandwich [11:57] OMFG [11:57] I just searched on DDG for "dripping sandwich" to get a picture of one [11:57] apparently this term has been used in porn [11:57] and with that, away! [11:57] * Laney dies === hikiko|ln is now known as hikiko [12:40] willcooke: just about to board a flight === Drac0 is now known as Guest50002 === jhernandez is now known as jhernandez_ [13:09] back [13:09] desrt, nw - later in the week perhaps [13:09] desrt, safe travels === jhernandez is now known as jhernandez_ [13:09] willcooke, wb! how was the exercice? [13:10] seb128, good! I feel fitter already! [13:10] getting out of the house and in to the sunshine is a wonderful thing [13:10] happier [13:10] great! [13:10] more productive [13:10] yeah [13:10] wow, sunshine, *want* [13:10] in the u.k? [13:10] they are lying! [13:10] thermometer says 27, but its in direct sun [13:10] it's nice today [13:11] Summer 2.0 [13:11] here as well actually [13:11] the forecast moved a bit but they still say that saturday is going to be cold [13:11] I'm hoping for the weekend, we'll do a rafting tour on Sunday [13:12] I hope you still get a sunny day for that! === jhernandez_ is now known as jhernandez [13:13] hey Laney do you remember about this https://code.launchpad.net/~3v1n0/gnome-session/upstart-export-variables/+merge/293236 ? [13:15] sure [13:29] * Trevinho has to keep a list of things to SRU too [13:32] trellooooooooooooo [13:36] * seb128 likes the sound of SRUs [13:36] speaking of which [13:36] Laney: yeah, i already was doing that [13:36] pitti, I guess you didn't have a slot of the upower issue yet? [13:37] Laney, attente, who of you is going to handle the next g-s SRU? we should get going with that [13:37] seb128: not yet, sorry; doing some urgent postgresql SRUs, and I've spent two hours on SRU review/cleanup so far [13:37] not many people are reviewing SRUs these days :/ [13:38] pitti, no worry, good luck with postgresql! [13:38] it's not going to be me [13:38] robert_ancell or attent_e [13:38] Laney, ok, so I guess it makes attent_e in charge [13:38] which means we are probably not going to get the stable update :p [13:39] he's in charge anyway [13:39] not going to bother him during the sprint [13:39] I guess that put us for next week :-/ [13:40] I wouldn't be slanty face about it [13:40] it would take somebody else the rest of the week and more to figure out the update themselves [13:40] he's already got the branch updated [13:41] Trevinho: if you want to SRU this gnome-session and upstart stuff then could you make the bug SRU compliant? [13:41] could upload g-s at the same time [13:42] Laney, right, it has some issues but the main one (notification) is probably not addressed by the rebase anyway so needs some more work before upload [13:42] wtf [13:42] I keep doing bzr branch lp:~ubuntu-desktop/... [13:42] cd ubuntu [13:42] bzr branch lp:~branch-to-sponsor [13:42] instead of bzr merge [13:42] done it like 4 times in the last week [13:42] where is that coming from? ;-) [13:42] I forgot how to bzr?!?!?! [13:43] git g-s workflow? [13:43] though you would checkout to change branch [13:43] weird [13:47] Laney: sure === JanC is now known as Guest15251 === JanC_ is now known as JanC [13:48] Laney: do we also need new branches for SRU? As I'm unsure how upstart is managed [13:49] we also have to include https://code.launchpad.net/~3v1n0/upstart/activation-proper-dbus-path/+merge/294025 but I'm waiting xnox to merge to Y before [13:51] * happyaron is forgetting bzr and goes git on LP for NM [13:53] happyaron, let us know how it works for you! [13:53] Trevinho: You could do if you want, currently the package uses lp:~ubuntu-core-dev/upstart/ubuntu [13:53] could make ubuntu-xenial for 16.04 [13:53] if you fix Vcs-Bzr in debian/control at the same time [13:54] I'm not much familiar into that vcs-bzr thing, but I can have a look at it [13:54] branch the tag that X released with [13:54] cherry-pick the things from ^ branch [13:54] write changelog [13:54] fix Vcs-Bzr [13:54] ask for sponsorship [13:54] ??? [13:54] profit [14:02] seb128, Laney - do you know... are rejected uploads still held somewhere so they can be resurrected? [14:02] Laney, easy review if you could do it, https://code.launchpad.net/~seb128/unity-control-center/bluetooth-leftover-button/+merge/294508 ? [14:03] willcooke: there's a rejected queue [14:03] willcooke, yes, https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/xenial/+queue [14:03] tkamppeter, ^ [14:03] thanks chaps [14:03] change the combo [14:03] Trevinho: hmm [14:03] did you measure how long this dbus call takes? [14:03] seb128, thanks for the BT Browse fix [14:03] willcooke, yw! [14:03] Laney: mh, no... is it causing any loop? [14:04] Trevinho: dunno, I just tried it and it "felt" longer [14:04] I wonder if it is a non trivial amount [14:04] I was looking for problems though so might be false [14:04] Laney: did you try on command line or using that g-s branch? [14:04] we could move it to be async if we are worried of that [14:05] branch [14:05] I dunno, I could have made it up [14:08] Laney: you can also indirectly test it by manually calliing dbus call --session --dest org.gnome.SessionManager --object-path /org/gnome/SessionManager --method org.gnome.SessionManager.Setenv [14:08] with the patch or without... So we can have numbers [14:11] nod [14:12] I have it ready to upload once you find out [14:13] pitti: thanks for your SRU work! [14:13] * Laney is getting all the emails [14:13] Laney: yw; there was some much-needed cleanup of old releases, and apparently xenial reviews are underloved too :/ [14:13] it was mainly arges doing reviews before now [14:14] not sure if that changed lately [14:17] yeah, would be nice to have some more people doing SRU reviews [14:17] same with MIR, NEW, etc [14:18] nothing new there :-/ [14:18] seb128: you know that time you allocated to do TB work? [14:18] :) :) :) :) [14:18] (: (: (: (: [14:18] yeah, that's back when I was motivated [14:18] before being rejected [14:18] :p [14:20] nothing more motivating than reviewing stable release updates [14:20] * Laney is campaign manager for "seb128 for ~ubuntu-sru 2016" [14:21] lol [14:22] Laney, joke aside I tried that once [14:22] I proposed to help/asked on IRC [14:22] just got ignored [14:23] seb128: oh, what? please do! [14:24] pitti, well, as said I tried, but seems there is no formal process and the current team had no interested [14:24] -ed [14:25] there is hardly a "team" right now; you have to nag people on IRC, or sometimes I pluck up courage and do a round, but we don't have a formal roster any more [14:25] but yeah, maybe I should considered asking again [14:26] infinity and slangasek are admins [14:26] pitti, thanks for the work you are doing on those btw! [14:26] * pitti hugs seb128 and Laney :) [14:27] * seb128 hugs pitti & Laney [14:28] * Laney hugs seb128 and pitti [14:28] * Laney whispers "pitti for ~ubuntu-sru admin" [14:29] those teams feel a bit closed [14:29] * Laney goes back to pagerduty instead of complaining about this any more [14:30] yeah, it's like TB, it feels like that if you are no part of some circles you are never going to make it into those... [14:30] ZE CABAL! [14:30] though the TB is a vote, so different [14:31] but we tend to have the same people involved in the decisions so it goes round [14:31] seb128: apparently you didn't hand out enough gummybears, or free CDs or something [14:32] yeah, I blame Laney, he was my compaign manager for that one as well! [14:33] fire him [14:33] * Laney is a secret agent of the foundations team [14:34] Laney is on a master plan to join foundations and move on the safe side of things in UOS [14:34] /msg Laney you were not suppposed to say that in a public channel; you just lost your business class and SRU review priority privileges [14:35] there goes my free trips on canonical one [14:37] seb128: Thanks for correcting me about Brasero. (According to LP, version 3.12.1-1ubuntu2 was published as late as April 8 - possibly that's what confused me.) [14:37] For which universe packages is it appropriate to use "X-Ubuntu-Use-Langpack: yes"? [14:37] GunnarHj, any that we want to be translated with langpacks [14:39] seb128: Sure. ;) And those are...? (I suppose we don't want to spam LP's translation interface.) [14:41] GunnarHj, I don't really have an answer to that, any desktop software is fine, brasero can use it [14:41] seb128: Ok. [14:41] GunnarHj, I think somebody had a look back then, even if that was activated for all package in universe it wouldn't be an issue, there are not that many packages using gettext/domain translations [14:42] seb128: As regards enabling it in Xenial for Brasero, a full langpack build is planned to happen on June 26. [14:43] speaking of which... [14:43] is that the first xenial langpack update planned? [14:43] we should perhaps have one sooner to fix evolution&co [14:44] pitti, ^ [14:44] opinion? [14:45] seb128: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Translations/XenialXerus/ReleaseSchedule [14:46] seb128, pitti: We could of course add an update before that, but since I'm going to bother the translators with an ubuntu-docs SRU, I was disinclinded to propose that. [15:00] seb128, GunnarHj: I don't mind either way; uploading an update is easy; verifying it is work [15:06] Laney, thanks for the review! [15:06] no probs [15:08] Laney: who do I need to bribe so Ubuntu is updating PackageKit on Yakkety? [15:09] that ancient version has bugs (recently broke Samba in Xenial), and also makes the life of Kubuntu people miserable due to a version mismatch between QPK and PK [15:16] ximion: It's on the plan but it is some work so you'll have to be patient [15:16] Laney: okay, thanks - with a reply like that I am happy already ^^ [15:21] ximion, please feel free to pay bribes though [15:22] seb128: What issue does "fix evolution&co" refer to? [15:22] :D [15:24] GunnarHj, bug #1545212 [15:24] bug 1545212 in language-pack-fr-base (Ubuntu) "Evolution 3.18.4 package does not include translations" [High,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1545212 [15:24] GunnarHj, due to a but in langpack-o-matic evolution is not translated in xenial [15:24] the .mo are missing from the release langpacks [15:33] seb128: I see. Do you know if an ordinary langpack update (not -base) would be sufficient? [15:35] I don't sorry [15:36] seb128: I'll try to check... [15:36] GunnarHj, thanks [15:50] seb128, pitti: Don't find anything evolution in the latest PPA langpacks, so I suppose that a full language pack update is required to have the evolution .mo files installed. Considering the ubuntu-docs SRU I mentioned, which was triggered by e.g. the late "Software" -> "Ubuntu Software" change, I would really suggest that we don't add another full langpack update before the one I mentioned on June 26. [15:51] seb128, pitti: Let's work towards 16.04.1 in this respect. [15:52] GunnarHj, ok, it means LTS users are let without evolution translated for a while :-/ [15:53] seb128: Yeah, if you accept my view, I'm afraid so. [15:53] I'm pondering doing an evolution upload without langpacks then [15:54] but we have some ubuntu specific strings that wouldn't be translated in that case [15:54] seb128: That's one option. Or maybe pitti can figure out some other "special". === jhernandez_ is now known as jhernandez [16:35] Laney: these are my numbers: http://paste.ubuntu.com/16377806/ [16:45] seb128, do you have /usr/share/icons/Adwaita/24x24/devices/audio-speakers.png [16:47] willcooke, no, is that one that you manually copied? [16:48] Trevinho: hmm, what do you think? [16:48] tiheum, is that icon on 14.04? [16:48] I wonder if we lost it in 16.04 some how [16:48] willcooke, adwaita is the GNOME theme [16:48] we don't use it [16:48] seb128, just looking for an icon to use. tiheum suggested we use the Adwa. one, but I dont have it [16:49] oh [16:49] /usr/share/icons/Adwaita/24x24/devices/audio-speakers.png adwaita-icon-theme-full [16:49] willcooke, http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?searchon=contents&keywords=audio-speakers.png&mode=exactfilename&suite=xenial&arch=any [16:49] is your friend [16:49] it's in adwaita-icon-theme-full [16:49] ohhhhhhhhhh [16:49] nice [16:49] thanks seb128 [16:49] I was just googling it :) [16:50] bah [16:50] ok, it's easy to fix [16:50] the -full split is to not have too much space used by icon on the iso [16:51] we just need to move audio-speaker to the non full version [16:51] in Adwaita? So it will fall back to using it? [16:52] yes [16:52] nice [16:52] willcooke, see /usr/share/icons/ubuntu-mono-light/index.theme [16:52] Inherits=Humanity,Adwaita,hicolor [16:52] ahh [16:52] got it [16:52] so it looks into those [16:54] willcooke, ifyou want to fix that, get adwaita-icon-theme and change debian/not-in-humanity.txt to list that icon [16:54] + changelog update [16:55] but don't bother, I can do that [16:55] sure? I can [16:55] willcooke, you can install adwaita-icon-theme-full though to test, since it provides the icon [16:55] that should fix the ui [16:55] will do... [16:55] thanks [16:55] unpick my hacks first... [16:58] * davmor2 gentle tug on this thread and watches all of willcooke hacks disappear [16:58] seb128, confirmed, fixes it [16:59] great [16:59] thanks for confirming [17:04] * willcooke is helping at Beavers tonight [17:04] so gotta shoot off [17:04] bbl I expect to finish the JDs === Drac0 is now known as Guest46939 [17:10] night [17:12] Laney: seb128: is there some special environment variable or something that tells GEdit to not use it's Headerbar? [17:22] mhall119: it should use a gtk-setting: gtk-shell-shows-app-menu [17:22] woha, be careful out there! [17:23] pitti is out with an axe killing zombie uploads in precise! [17:30] Laney: ah, well... about those numbers I think there's nothing wrong,, [17:55] seb128: https://plus.google.com/101094190333184858950/posts/2ehJvvHv8Ue [17:55] * Sweet5hark s fingers slipped. [18:35] Trevinho: where is that setting? [18:39] mhall119: is managed by unity-setttings-daemon, but you should be able to override that using a settings.ini file as described by https://developer.gnome.org/gtk3/stable/GtkSettings.html#GtkSettings.description [18:43] Trevinho: hmmm, should unity-settings-daemon manage it in a unity 8 session too? [18:43] there is no *x*settings under a non-X session [18:44] which is what u-s-d does [18:44] seb128: I just got to that part of the link Trevinho sent, it's starting to make sense now [18:44] "sense" in the "why was the display serving doing this in the first place" way anyway [19:05] Trevinho: setting gtk-shell-shows-app-menu doesn't seem to have any affect [19:07] maybe ubuntu-app-test is breaking it [21:16] hi robert_ancell, night robert_ancell [21:16] willcooke, hi bye [21:16] night all === thumper-afk is now known as thumper