kmoss | Hi, everyone. I'm wondering which desktop environment is best to use for minimizing mouse usage. Basically, I have decided the mouse is evil, ever since I got a wrist injury. So I'm looking for good suggestions. | 01:13 |
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daftykins | perhaps you should try a trackball first | 01:17 |
kmoss | I hate those things | 01:18 |
tsimonq2 | kmoss: i3 is the best I've seen | 01:18 |
daftykins | me too, but i had a client who switched after some injury | 01:19 |
kmoss | tsimonq2: never even heard of that one, any particular advantages to it? | 01:19 |
Bashing-om | kmoss: I like xfce . | 01:19 |
daftykins | anything can be keyboard if you learn it well enough | 01:19 |
tsimonq2 | kmoss: it's basically very keyboard-oriented | 01:20 |
tsimonq2 | i3 window manager | 01:20 |
tsimonq2 | https://www.linux.com/learn/how-use-super-fast-i3-tiling-window-manager-linux%20 and http://i3wm.org/ might help | 01:20 |
JanC | the default unity is pretty good with a keyboard... | 01:42 |
daftykins | most let you alt+F2 -> program -> enter | 01:43 |
LambdaComplex | kmoss: i3 or bspwm | 02:29 |
LambdaComplex | or possibly hlwm | 02:29 |
kmoss | So far I'm watching the videos on i3, I'm loving what I see so far. | 02:34 |
kmoss | anyone know if you can make the terminal windows/vi/emacs transparent in i3? | 02:34 |
LambdaComplex | probably, if you have a compositor (like compton) running | 02:34 |
lotuspsychje | good afternoon to all | 11:39 |
lotuspsychje | ducasse: did judy come back yet? | 11:39 |
ducasse | lotuspsychje: not that i've seen, but i'm only halfway paying attention :) | 11:40 |
lotuspsychje | kk :p | 11:41 |
lotuspsychje | http://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2016/05/ubuntu-16-04-proves-even-an-lts-release-can-live-at-linuxs-bleeding-edge/ | 11:43 |
lotuspsychje | nice article here, also mentions zfs only for servers as you said ducasse | 11:43 |
ducasse | thanks, i'll have a look. | 11:47 |
BluesKaj | Hiyas all | 12:00 |
lotuspsychje | hey BluesKaj | 12:00 |
BluesKaj | hey lotuspsychje | 12:01 |
pauljw | Hi everyone | 12:12 |
BluesKaj | hi pauljw | 12:13 |
pauljw | hey BluesKaj | 12:14 |
lotuspsychje | hi pauljw | 12:15 |
lotuspsychje | welcome akik | 12:15 |
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pauljw | hi lotuspsychje | 12:15 |
lotuspsychje | http://www.zdnet.com/article/the-linux-in-your-car-movement-gains-momentum/#ftag=RSSbaffb68 | 12:19 |
lotuspsychje | fasten your seatbelts lol | 12:19 |
pauljw | :) | 12:22 |
EriC^^ | hi lotuspsychje | 12:42 |
lotuspsychje | hey EriC^^ | 12:42 |
OerHeks | i am back :-) | 12:43 |
lotuspsychje | wb OerHeks | 12:43 |
lotuspsychje | OerHeks: LP fixxed? | 12:44 |
OerHeks | lotuspsychje, almost all sites indeed! | 12:44 |
lotuspsychje | great | 12:44 |
OerHeks | you wicked fixer! | 12:44 |
lotuspsychje | lol | 12:44 |
BluesKaj | hey OerHeks | 12:45 |
OerHeks | hi BluesKaj | 12:46 |
OerHeks | not sure what went wrong, or how it got reset | 12:46 |
lotuspsychje | http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=intel-driver-change&num=1 | 12:47 |
OerHeks | all i know is that my yubikey is now EOL, and i use an other OTP now. | 12:47 |
lotuspsychje | OerHeks: your back that matters :p | 12:47 |
OerHeks | you are my favorite resetter, grinn | 12:48 |
lotuspsychje | hehe | 12:48 |
BluesKaj | hope it doesn't need pulseaudio for flash/web audio linkage to alsa like other audio drivers do | 12:53 |
lotuspsychje | alot of stuff changing | 12:53 |
lotuspsychje | driverwise | 12:53 |
BluesKaj | platform agnostic code sounds workable tho ....I think | 12:54 |
lotuspsychje | nice article, posted earlier: http://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2016/05/ubuntu-16-04-proves-even-an-lts-release-can-live-at-linuxs-bleeding-edge/ | 12:55 |
lotuspsychje | explaining the snap part well | 12:55 |
lotuspsychje_ | oO | 13:35 |
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lotuspsychje | http://news.softpedia.com/news/ubuntu-touch-ota-11-delayed-by-a-week-work-on-ota-12-should-start-soon-503970.shtml | 14:34 |
lotuspsychje | \9: welcome | 14:47 |
\9 | hi | 14:47 |
dbz2k | hi | 14:47 |
lotuspsychje | \9: we share some ubuntu articles and recent news here, to be able to help best in main | 14:47 |
lotuspsychje | dbz2k: hello | 14:48 |
\9 | ah, cool | 14:48 |
OerHeks | some new users help old users, anything can happen here | 14:49 |
OerHeks | !coffee | 14:49 |
lotuspsychje | cheers OerHeks | 14:50 |
lotuspsychje | http://www.datamation.com/open-source/how-long-will-desktop-linux-last.html | 14:51 |
lotuspsychje | another lame article that says linux will vanish lol | 14:51 |
\9 | I've only seen linux desktop grow, there's new desktops in an IT class in our uni and they all run Kubuntu | 14:54 |
\9 | or at least KDE. I think it's Kubuntu | 14:55 |
lotuspsychje | \9: we found an article yesterday, italian military dropped ms office for libreoffice, saves them 26 million euros.. | 14:55 |
lotuspsychje | \9: nice1 | 14:55 |
\9 | yeah I've never understood how MS office has a market when there's a free alternative | 14:55 |
tgm4883 | \9: because it costs money to switch | 14:56 |
tgm4883 | \9: because by the time people reach working age they've already been taught office (which bring s it back to point #1) | 14:57 |
\9 | ah, right | 14:57 |
lotuspsychje | well if you can save 26 million, i think you can handle the converting price aswell :p | 14:57 |
Hesulan | I can't remember where, but the other day I read a good article that pretty much summed up Linux on desktops. IIRC, it said something along the lines of: Since those of us who develop Linux do so primarily for their own use rather than as a product to sell to a consumer, we don't really care if *everyone* uses it - only that *we* are able to. Having more end-users only provides indirect benefit to us through | 14:57 |
Hesulan | bug reports, etc. So it's never been a huge priority. | 14:57 |
tgm4883 | lotuspsychje: how many employees? | 14:58 |
lotuspsychje | tgm4883: not sure, lemme refind the url | 14:58 |
lotuspsychje | tgm4883: http://news.softpedia.com/news/italian-military-to-save-up-to-29-million-euro-by-migrating-to-libreoffice-503945.shtml | 14:58 |
\9 | yeah Linux desktop has always been a niche and likely always will be | 14:58 |
\9 | nothing wrong with that IMO | 14:58 |
tgm4883 | so 100,000 | 14:59 |
tgm4883 | somethings not quite right with that math | 14:59 |
tgm4883 | office doesn't cost 260/user | 15:00 |
lotuspsychje | depends wich office? | 15:01 |
lotuspsychje | i know a person got ripped off from a pc store for 500$ for MS office full package | 15:02 |
tgm4883 | lotuspsychje: no, it really doesn't. You get huge discounts for buying 100,000 seats | 15:02 |
lotuspsychje | true | 15:02 |
tgm4883 | hell, you get huge discounts buying 1,000 seats | 15:02 |
lotuspsychje | but we dont know the full story perhaps from the military | 15:03 |
lotuspsychje | anyway a lot of .gov and big companys have moved to linux | 15:03 |
lotuspsychje | its a good thing | 15:03 |
tgm4883 | oh I agree, it's a good thing | 15:03 |
tgm4883 | I just find some of the numbers a bit, interesting | 15:04 |
lotuspsychje | yeah lol | 15:04 |
lotuspsychje | perhaps some of the ammount $$$ will fall off the boat somewhere | 15:04 |
lotuspsychje | wb BluesKaj | 15:52 |
BluesKaj | thanks lotuspsychje ,installed kodi, but it crashes after a few mins | 15:53 |
lotuspsychje | oh | 15:54 |
BluesKaj | freezes everything | 15:54 |
BluesKaj | not running the nvidia driver due to a kernel module error with it. | 15:55 |
daftykins | mmm Kodi will most likely not run on nouveau | 15:59 |
daftykins | it needs proper OpenGL acceleration | 15:59 |
lotuspsychje | ah | 15:59 |
lotuspsychje | BluesKaj: cant you load another driver? | 15:59 |
daftykins | older version number or something? | 16:00 |
lotuspsychje | sudo ubuntu-drivers list | 16:01 |
BluesKaj | daftykins: I tried the driver with both 3.1 and 2.0 opengl , but it was a mess . flickering , crashing wallpapaer below the panel etc | 16:02 |
daftykins | is that on a 16.04 install? what's the card? | 16:02 |
lotuspsychje | and driver version? | 16:02 |
BluesKaj | nvidia-340 is a problem on yakkety | 16:02 |
lotuspsychje | ah your on 16.10? | 16:03 |
BluesKaj | nouveau works well with xrender most of the time | 16:03 |
OerHeks | BluesKaj, missing linux-headers-generic ?? | 16:03 |
lotuspsychje | i think stuff wil get fixxed when yakkety moves to 4.6 kernel also | 16:04 |
lotuspsychje | dax: did you see ducasse 's sugestion for zfs? | 16:04 |
BluesKaj | OerHeks: headers are installed | 16:05 |
OerHeks | :-( | 16:05 |
dax | lotuspsychje: zfs stuff is probably best off going to another op, i don't know anything about it or support it :c | 16:05 |
lotuspsychje | dax: ok thank you, can you talk about it in ops perhaps? | 16:05 |
lotuspsychje | dax: also EriC^^ mentioned the ubottu bug still open for abuse | 16:06 |
dax | do a factoid suggestion (/msg ubottu !no, zfs is <reply> factoid text goes here) and see if someone else from -ops pops up | 16:06 |
dax | bug thing is a Pici thing | 16:06 |
lotuspsychje | ducasse: for you ^ | 16:07 |
ducasse | ok, i'll do it rsn. | 16:08 |
lotuspsychje | EriC^^: highlight pici for the echo ubottu bug :p | 16:08 |
EriC^^ | ok :p | 16:08 |
ducasse | lotuspsychje: zfs suggestion is sent. | 16:15 |
lotuspsychje | ducasse: great | 16:16 |
lotuspsychje | evening baizon | 16:57 |
lotuspsychje | bbl guys dinner | 17:13 |
DaniKitten | Hi | 20:43 |
DaniKitten | I found a way for still using Ubuntu on my slow netbook: using almost only true CLI | 20:43 |
daftykins | *facepalm* | 21:03 |
Bashing-om | daftykins: Beats head {DaniKitten} on desk .... hard . | 21:06 |
daftykins | :) | 21:06 |
daftykins | Bashing-om: only in the most pleasant and polite way! | 21:06 |
Bashing-om | Yeah, otherwise - we become the guilty . I have a soft conscious . | 21:08 |
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