[00:02] <ouroumov__> hi HetroErectus
[00:02] <HetroErectus> hi
[00:03] <ouroumov__> HetroErectus, this is not the optimal place for a bug report, due to the transient nature of the chan
[00:03] <HetroErectus> ah ok...
[00:03] <ouroumov__> HetroErectus, what version of Ubuntu MATE are you using?
[00:03] <HetroErectus> i just yell out though.. i'll find the forum and file it
[00:03] <HetroErectus> 16.04
[00:04] <ouroumov__> Thanks for reporting it. When you post on the forum please submit as much information as you can regarding your setup. :)
[00:04] <HetroErectus> yep
[00:05] <ouroumov__> The forum is here: https://ubuntu-mate.community/c/feedback
[00:05] <HetroErectus> im trying to load it but im downloading 2 games on a 3mbit line
[00:05] <HetroErectus> :/
[00:05] <HetroErectus> so it hangs.. bad!
[00:05] <ouroumov__> ^^
[00:06] <HetroErectus> ...in windows store, so dont worry...
[00:06] <HetroErectus> im on my surface pro now
[00:09] <HetroErectus> support & help ?
[00:09] <HetroErectus> cant find a spec place there for bugs
[00:09] <SonikkuAmerica> What/
[00:11] <ouroumov__> HetroErectus, no, in Feedback I think.
[00:11] <ouroumov__> HetroErectus, scratch that
[00:11] <ouroumov__> Go with Support & Help
[00:13] <HetroErectus> yep
[00:13] <HetroErectus> filed!
[00:16] <ouroumov__> thx :)
[00:17] <ouroumov__> HetroErectus, you didn't specify what version of Ubuntu MATE you're using
[00:17] <HetroErectus> dang!
[00:19] <HetroErectus> done
[00:20] <HetroErectus> hoep its sorted out.. annoying cause some of the games that wont start gives shadows, and to get the volume control working again i have to reboot
[00:21] <HetroErectus> hope it GETS sorted out
[00:21] <HetroErectus> must be its late :/
[00:21] <HetroErectus> shadows = ghost image
[00:22] <HetroErectus> however, ATI drivers seem to run well so idk what that issue with steam could be
[00:22] <HetroErectus> i use the open source ones, maybe i should specify that too?
[00:24] <HetroErectus> added it
[00:29] <ubuntu-mate> Hi anyone there?
[00:29] <HetroErectus> <-
[00:29] <ubuntu-mate> Hi
[00:29] <HetroErectus> hi .. wzp
[00:31] <ubuntu-mate> So I have an Acer S3 laptop I'm trying to insatll mate on but can't. Speciffically my problem is that I can't get the SSD I installed to be stay formated as ntfs and do the install
[00:31] <ubuntu-mate> It asks me to define a /root directory and I tried to set the SSD as the /root direc
[00:31] <ubuntu-mate> except the drop down doesn't have a /root option
[00:31] <ouroumov__> You can't define a Linux system partition as NTFS
[00:32] <ubuntu-mate> I can't =?
[00:32] <ubuntu-mate> So I have to to use ext 4 or something as the format?
[00:32] <ouroumov__> Yes
[00:33] <ouroumov__> ext4 for "/" (root) and "/home" (where user files go)
[00:33] <ouroumov__> You also need a swap partition the same size as your RAM if you want to be able to hibernate
[00:33] <ubuntu-mate> okay... So what file format can I use with mate if I will regularly have files larger than 4.6 GB?
[00:34] <HetroErectus> are you going to use the entire disk?
[00:34] <ouroumov__> And if you're booting into UEFI mode you also need a 300MB 'Efi Boot Partition'
[00:34] <ubuntu-mate> The laptop has a 20GB swap intergrated to MB
[00:34] <ubuntu-mate> booting in Legacy
[00:34] <ubuntu-mate> I will be using the whole disk
[00:34] <HetroErectus> right!
[00:34] <HetroErectus> then its easy peasy
[00:34] <HetroErectus> just let ubuntu use the entire disk.. theres an option for it during install
[00:35] <HetroErectus> just make sure you pick the right one, but you'll see it on the number of avaliable GB
 okay... So what file format can I use with mate if I will regularly have files larger than 4.6 GB? -> I don't understand that question
[00:36] <HetroErectus> you can have as large files you want, with a caviat, if you have disks larger than 2 TB you might have issues
[00:36] <ouroumov__> ubuntu-mate, max file size for ext4 is 16TB, you have files larger than that?
[00:36] <HetroErectus> then you have to change from MBR to ... GPR or something like that
[00:36] <HetroErectus> but you can do that after installation
[00:37] <HetroErectus> its a simple tool for it in ubuntu mate
[00:37] <HetroErectus> "disks"
[00:37] <ubuntu-mate> Okay so I have another laptop (same one) I put vanilla Ubuntu on it and did it with the stock options
[00:37] <ubuntu-mate> it is ext 2 maybe or 4
[00:37] <ubuntu-mate> and when I download a 4.5 or larger file
[00:37] <ubuntu-mate> in rar or something and try unpacking it. It won't let me
[00:38] <ubuntu-mate> and I can't write files larger than 4.5gb to the HDD in the vanilla ubuntu one
[00:39] <ubuntu-mate> I wanna try Mate because I heard on LAS that it has a better power saving feature baked it. STILL VERY NEW TO LINUX
[00:41] <ouroumov__> ubuntu-mate, maybe it's rar's fault
[00:41] <ubuntu-mate> I think I understand what you're saying Hetro. So install with ext 4 and then after the install separate the SSD into two partitions? 1 for /root that is the OS and the one for /home that is ntfs?
[00:41] <ouroumov__> What's the version of that normal Ubuntu you tested?
[00:41] <ouroumov__> 16.04?
[00:41] <ubuntu-mate> 15.10 then upgraded to 16.04
[00:41] <ouroumov__> ubuntu-mate, no the partitioning is done at the time of install
[00:42] <ouroumov__> ubuntu-mate, please, please do not make a /root partition
[00:42] <ouroumov__> ubuntu-mate, you need a partition for your system with "/" as mount point.
[00:42] <ouroumov__> Not "/root", just "/"
[00:43] <ouroumov__> ubuntu-mate, how large are your drives?
[00:44] <ubuntu-mate> the swap on the MB is 20GB and the SSD is 120GB
[00:44] <ouroumov__> And those are the only drives in your machine?
[00:44] <ubuntu-mate> "/" is "/root" got it
[00:44] <ubuntu-mate> yes its a laptop
[00:44] <ouroumov__> Okay
[00:45] <ouroumov__> and your swap shows up in the installer as a separate drive?
[00:45] <ubuntu-mate> Yes
[00:45] <ouroumov__> Then do the following:
[00:46] <ouroumov__> assuming sda is your 120G ssd and sdb is your 20GB swap
[00:46] <ubuntu-mate> yes exactly that way
[00:46] <ouroumov__> Click sda, create new partition table
[00:46] <ubuntu-mate> following along now
[00:47] <ouroumov__> Select free space in sda, click green plus sign, create a partition for your system. Type: ext4, size: 30GB (to be large-but I don't know your uses cases)
[00:47] <ouroumov__> oh, Size: 30000 MB actually
[00:48] <ubuntu-mate> * Note the SSD did have a 104MB partition on it prior to clicking the New partition
[00:48] <ubuntu-mate> I think for SSD chache/error stuff? idk
[00:49] <ouroumov__> ubuntu-mate, I don't think that's important
[00:49] <ouroumov__> Anyway, next: click the green plus sign again, use all remaining disk space for a new ext4 partition with mount point "/home"
[00:50] <ouroumov__> Next: click sdb and create a new partition table
[00:50] <ouroumov__> Select all the free space in sdb for a partition of type "swap"
[00:50] <ubuntu-mate> Okay, I'm going with 40000 MB as my partition. Do I select Primary/logical and the location is what beginning/end
[00:51] <ouroumov__> Make sure before you click install that the boot loader is set to install on "sda"
[00:51] <ubuntu-mate> Will do, Im going slow to ask you questions lol
[00:51] <ouroumov__> ubuntu-mate, for that "primary/logical" stuff: always use the default value
[00:51] <ubuntu-mate> Im still on the "create partition" part of sda
[00:52] <ubuntu-mate> Okay will use the default
[00:52] <ouroumov__> It should change to "logical" after your first partition I think
[00:52] <ouroumov__> but you don't have to care
[00:52] <ouroumov__> Just don't force it to be always primary OK?
[00:53] <ouroumov__> ubuntu-mate, for the beginning / end use the default too
[00:53] <ubuntu-mate> Okay done and done. I do have some free space in "sda"
[00:53] <ouroumov__> how much?
[00:53] <ubuntu-mate> should I format that now or after the install.
[00:53] <ubuntu-mate> 80034MB
[00:54] <ouroumov__> You forgot the /home partition I think :o
[00:54] <ubuntu-mate> oh yeah lol
[00:55] <ouroumov__> (see above)
[00:56] <ubuntu-mate> ouroumov random question I just grabbed the other laptop I have whihch is the vanilla Ubuntu how to I check what format I used for it
[00:56] <ubuntu-mate> because I might have done ext4 and it definitely can't handle large files
[00:56] <ouroumov__> ubuntu-mate, type "mount" in a terminal
[00:57] <ubuntu-mate> did that. A lot of text came up
[00:58] <ouroumov__> look for your "/dev/sdaX" entries
[00:58] <ouroumov__> There should be the type somewhere in there
[00:59] <ubuntu-mate> I think my chat broke =/
[00:59] <ubuntu-mate> now it works
[00:59] <ouroumov__> ^^
[01:00] <ubuntu-mate> dev/sda1 type vfat
[01:00] <ouroumov__> efi?
[01:00] <Ramlinman41> ext4 can handle up to 16 TB files
[01:00] <ubuntu-mate> the boot. um i think its legacy. let me check
[01:00] <ouroumov__> Ramlinman41, I told him but he doesn't believe me xD
[01:02] <ubuntu-mate> yes legacy
[01:02] <ubuntu-mate> that one doesn't have a updated bootloader so no ufei option
[01:02] <ouroumov__> ubuntu-mate, what is the mount point for that /dev/sda1?
[01:03] <Ramlinman41> Even using at the worst formatting it can handle 16GB files
[01:04] <ouroumov__> ubuntu-mate, FYI I'm currently watching "The Martian" version Full HD 1080p from my ext4-formated SSD. The file is 11.7BG. ext4 works with big files.
[01:06] <ouroumov__> -BG+GB
[01:06] <ubuntu-mate> the mount point. ummm okay so don't judge me but on the vanilla ubuntu one i coouldn't figure out how to get the HDD to be the /root or boot or what ever but I got the swap to reformat and work. sooooo the swap 20gb on the motherboard is the OS and the HDD is really just liek a mounted drive and when I download a large file there (in say like 30 pieces) directly to the HDD then try unpacking it. it craps out on me
[01:06] <ubuntu-mate> every time
[01:07] <ubuntu-mate> I suck at typing fast. Excuse my belligerent amount of spelling errors
[01:08] <ouroumov__> ubuntu-mate, better command
[01:08] <ouroumov__> type on the classic machine:
[01:09] <ouroumov__> lsblk -l --output MOUNTPOINT,FSTYPE
[01:10] <ubuntu-mate> okay I typed in mountpoint
[01:10] <ubuntu-mate> I got some stuff
[01:10] <ubuntu-mate> but when I put fstype in after it doesn't do anything
[01:10] <ubuntu-mate> says comand not found
[01:10] <ouroumov__> please respect precisely the spaces and capitalization
[01:11] <ouroumov__> No space after coma
[01:11] <ubuntu-mate> whoops
[01:11] <ubuntu-mate> added a space
[01:11] <ouroumov__> ^^
[01:12] <ubuntu-mate> okay so maybe im slow. but I typed it in exactly as you have it and command not found =/
[01:12] <ubuntu-mate> nvm
[01:13] <ubuntu-mate> missed the first step you have
[01:13] <ouroumov__> Are you sure you used a coma and not a semicolon?
[01:13] <ubuntu-mate> trying agin now
[01:14] <ubuntu-mate> got it.
[01:15] <ouroumov__> o/
[01:15] <ubuntu-mate> mountpoint fstype then under that vfat under that; /   ext4; [SWAP]   swap
[01:16] <ouroumov__> HAHA
[01:16] <Ramlinman41> vfat is a problem
[01:16] <ouroumov__> uoh, excuse me
[01:16] <ouroumov__> I was laughing hard
[01:16] <ubuntu-mate> lol
[01:16] <ubuntu-mate> i honestly don't even know what i did
[01:16] <ubuntu-mate> can you explain haha
[01:17] <pilne> i feel like i've walked into a situation where someone is needlessly complicating their life
[01:17] <ouroumov__> Sure
[01:17] <ouroumov__> ubuntu-mate, you other computer is using FAT32
[01:17] <ouroumov__> :')
[01:17] <ubuntu-mate> my vanilla ubuntu machine
[01:17] <ubuntu-mate> dam
[01:18] <ouroumov__> Yes
[01:18] <ubuntu-mate> well thank you
[01:18] <ouroumov__> Hence the 4GB limit
[01:18] <Ramlinman41> 4? I thought it was 2
[01:18] <ubuntu-mate> i see
[01:18] <ouroumov__> Sorry, hence the limit
[01:19] <ubuntu-mate> the limit is like 4.2-4.5 its weird
[01:19] <Ramlinman41> yeah ubuntu-mate, its that 1000 vs 1024 thing
[01:20] <ouroumov__> FAT32: 4,294,967,295 bytes
[01:20] <Ramlinman41> It all depends on how you calculate
[01:21] <ubuntu-mate> p.s. the mate install worked. THANK YOU EVERYONE!
[01:21] <ouroumov__> \o/
[01:22] <ubuntu-mate> seriously much appreciated. I'm happy the chat was built into the mate welcome.
[01:22] <ouroumov__> Yeah it's useful
[01:22] <ouroumov__> ubuntu-mate, you've booted the new install and all?
[01:23] <ubuntu-mate> not booted yet. actually still using it. I'm up to the part where i have to name it
[01:23] <ouroumov__> Oh so it's not actually installed yet
[01:24] <pilne> comrade ouroumov__ i salute your patience, yer a better human being than I.
[01:24] <ubuntu-mate> not technically
[01:25] <ouroumov__> Tovaritch pilne, don't sell yourself so short
[01:26] <ouroumov__> I have the benefit of being a teacher of a sort
[01:26] <pilne> i'm only 170cm tall, kinda hard not to be short :p
[01:27] <ouroumov__> pilne, I only have 4cm on you
[01:28] <pilne> hehehe, i dunno, i don't mind helping and teaching, but i get frustrated when it feels like there is an easier solution that will accomplish the same proper outcome
[01:29] <ouroumov__> But there wasn't really. The default solution here would have neglected to use sdb.
[01:29] <ouroumov__> At least, I think it would have
[01:30] <pilne> ahhhhh, and I came in part of the way through, and I had a couple of beers at a wake, so maybe I got things wrong and I owe ubuntu-mate an apology
[01:30] <ouroumov__> ^^
[01:31] <pilne> my apologies to all i slighted in this exchange
[01:41] <ouroumov__> ubuntu-mate, any update?
[01:43] <ubuntu-mate> the install finished and it says I can continue testing or restart
[01:44] <ubuntu-mate> (sorry had to go get my dad from the train station
[01:44] <ouroumov__> So please restart and see if it works
[01:45] <ubuntu-mate> I will restart but will I be able to join this chat again ( I have no idea how the irc chats work)
[01:45] <ouroumov__> Yes
[01:46] <ubuntu-mate> okay
[01:46] <ouroumov__> Just follow the same path
[01:46] <ubuntu-mate> gonna restart then
[01:50] <prime_> Ubuntu-mate here. The install worked! for reals this time. Booted up from the SSD. The install seems to be good
[01:51] <ouroumov__> \o/
[01:51] <prime_> Thank you guys!
[01:51] <ouroumov__> prime_, so I've got a few post-install recommendations if you'd like
[01:51] <prime_> all ears
[01:52] <ouroumov__> First, you should immediately go to MATE Tweak -> Windows and pick "Marco + Compton" as your window manager option
[01:53] <prime_> done
[01:54] <ouroumov__> Next, and a question first: are you using Firefox?
[01:54] <prime_> yes
[01:54] <ouroumov__> Don't start it yet
[01:55] <ouroumov__> If you haven't already
[01:55] <prime_> ....... a little late
[01:55] <ouroumov__> If you have close it
[01:55] <prime_> closed it
[01:55] <ouroumov__> Do a full system update
[01:55] <ouroumov__> (Welcome -> Getting Started)
[01:55] <ouroumov__> Then once the update is done, go right to drivers step, click install firmware package
[01:55] <ouroumov__> Then reboot
[01:56] <prime_> can I do "sudo apt-get update" for the same thing or no
[01:56] <ouroumov__> Yes
[01:56] <ouroumov__> You can even "sudo apt update"
[01:56] <prime_> doing it now
[01:57] <ouroumov__> Anyway, when you open up firefox again I recommend you first install the addons: uBlock Origin, Privacy Badger and HTTPS everywhere before you start visiting sites
[01:59] <prime_> I usually always do (except for privacy badger, Ive been using Annoymox but was thinking of switching to Shadowsocks)
[02:00] <cde> how do i get the source code for ubuntu mate?
[02:00] <ouroumov__> cde, Website -> Community -> Bottom of the page
[02:01] <cde> thankyou
[02:01] <ouroumov__> yw
[02:01] <prime_> >ouroumov_ restarting now
[02:03] <prime_> back now. installing add-ons for firefox
[02:25] <Galatran> Ahoi!
[02:31] <festerB> ouroumov__: what about chrome? same adv as you just gave prime_ for ff?
[02:46] <ouroumov__> hi festerB
[02:46] <ouroumov__> festerB, yes if the addons exist
[02:47] <festerB> great, many thx
[02:47] <festerB> they all do btw
[02:48] <ouroumov__> I never used Chrome so I don't know about uBlock
[02:48] <ouroumov__> I know the other two are likely because they're from the EFF
[02:49] <rev_> Chrome has uBlock Origin, works just as well
[02:49] <ouroumov__> cool
[02:51] <festerB> I also have a fourth "addon" in the sense that I only use startpage.com
[02:52] <rev_> Question: Does anyone else have this issue where the Mate menu bars are absolutely massive on login for a few seconds before refreshing and taking on their proper appearance?
[02:53] <rev_> Short video of what I mean: https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B8iIVEJDFA_rR1o5YU9OUE9kQjA
[02:53] <rev_> Not sure if it's a glitch or Nvidia drivers just acting weird
[02:53] <rev_> DPI settings in greeter don't seem to change anything
[02:54] <ouroumov__> rev_, I'm not experiencing it
[02:54] <ouroumov__> (Using Intel integrated graphics here)
[02:54] <rev_> Alright, thanks. Wanted to make sure it was out of the norm. Didn't know if I should ask on the forums or not.
[02:54] <rev_> New to linux.
[03:00] <ouroumov__> rev_, you're using what option in System -> Preferences -> Look & Feel -> MATE Tweak -> Windows -> Window Manager
[03:00] <ouroumov__> ?
[03:01] <rev_> Compiz, which could very well be the problem. But, I really want to keep the nice effects.
[03:01] <rev_> I'll have to test it a bit more.
[03:02] <ouroumov__> Since you've already taken great steps to document the issue it would be even better with a try using Compton
[03:02] <ouroumov__> I think that'd make a good post for the forum.
[03:02] <ouroumov__> Your system is up to date & all?
[03:03] <rev_> Yeah.
[03:03] <rev_> I'm going to give compton a test here. Might make a forum post after I try a few more things to see if I can't troubleshoot it.
[03:03] <rev_> brb
[03:07] <ouroumov__> wb
[03:07] <rev_> Issue still exists.
[03:07] <rev_> I'll keep messing around and make a post about it in the support forum.
[03:08] <rev_> Thanks again.
[03:08] <pavlushka> rev
[03:08] <pavlushka> rev_:
[03:08] <rev_> Yeah
[03:08] <pavlushka> I face that issue of bigger fonts before login,
[03:09] <rev_> Are you using Nvidia drivers by any chance?
[03:09] <pavlushka> no, intel builtins
[03:09] <pavlushka> but didn't raised that as issue
[03:10] <rev_> Interesting. I was thinking it was a driver issue since the Nvidia drivers messed with my desktop DIP scaling and GRUB resolution.
[03:10] <pavlushka> seeing your posts, it came to my mind.
[03:10] <alkisg> rev_: does it also happen with the guest account?
[03:10] <rev_> I'd have to check
[03:10] <alkisg> (i.e. with completely clean settings...)
[03:13] <pavlushka> alkisg: should rev_ file a bug for that?
[03:14] <alkisg> Sure why not, but in general I prefer doing the research before filing the bug, it allows for better bug reports
[03:15] <alkisg> E.g. there are ubuntu specific bugs that should be filed on launchpad, and non ubuntu specific bugs that should be filed upstream
[03:15] <pavlushka> alkisg: well, he can add/change the details anytime.
[03:15] <alkisg> Deciding where to file the bug is very important in getting it resolved
[03:15] <alkisg> He can't change the bug tracker without filing a second bug report...
[03:15] <pavlushka> alkisg: copy that.
[03:22] <rev_> alkisg: Guest account didn't fix the issue. Actually brought back the Nvidia driver/DPI scaling issue.
[03:23] <rev_> I think I need to somehow mess with the DPI scale for the entire system rather than just my user.
[03:32] <mate|76058> how can i build matebuntu from source?
[03:33] <SonikkuAmerica> mate|76058: You want to remaster the ISO/
[03:33] <SonikkuAmerica> ?
[03:33] <mate|76058> yep
[03:33] <SonikkuAmerica> Why?
[03:34] <SonikkuAmerica> (Just wondering)
[03:34] <mate|76058> for the lulz
[03:35] <mate|76058> that and i want to replace systemed
[03:35] <SonikkuAmerica> Oooooh
[03:35] <SonikkuAmerica> That might be hard to do.
[03:36] <mate|76058> oh launchpad is confusing me im used to github how do i get the source?
[03:37] <SonikkuAmerica> You'd use bzr to get it.
[03:38] <mate|76058> i looked into that but i dont know how to clone the repo
[03:40] <SonikkuAmerica> !bzr
[03:40] <SonikkuAmerica> errrg
[03:40] <SonikkuAmerica> it'd be nice to have ubottu in here
[03:41] <SonikkuAmerica> "bzr is Bazaar-NG, a decentralized revision control system designed to be easy for developers and end users alike. Decentralized revision control systems give people the ability to work over the internet using the bazaar development model.  See http://doc.bazaar.canonical.com/bzr.dev/en/mini-tutorial/ for a quickstart guide."
[03:41] <SonikkuAmerica> I don't use bzr for anything at all
[03:41] <SonikkuAmerica> but the tutorials there might help you.
[03:41] <mate|76058> thankyou
[04:24] <alkisg> rev_: does it also happen if you temporarily disable the nvidia driver?
[04:25] <alkisg> I think you can set the dpi globally by creating an /etc/X11/xorg.conf file
[04:26] <alkisg> If in the end you discover that the bug originates in the nvidia driver, then you should file a bug report in the nvidia forums...
[04:26] <rev_> Still need to test with the driver disabled. Will check in just a bit here.
[04:26] <rev_> Thanks for all the suggestions.
[05:57] <todd_> Nice looking install
[05:57] <todd_> Going to be interested to see how it runs on my HP DV 9000
[07:56] <dintari> what is video player app name in Ubuntu-15? need the one that really compatible. thank you
[07:59] <alkisg> vlc
[08:08] <danboid> Do we have a Wimpy man?
[08:45] <danboid> Apparently Wimpy's nick is way above top secret
[09:10] <gordonjcp> danboid: what the absolute fuck are you wibbling on about?
[09:17] <danboid> gordonjcp: :D What's wimpy's IRC nick?
[09:21] <gordonjcp> what are you talking about?
[09:49]  * flexiondotorg is Wimpy.
[10:03] <danboid> Aha! Thanks
[10:03] <danboid> flexiondotorg: ping
[10:19] <alkisg> flexiondotorg: Hi, I think that fix you proposed in https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubuntu-mate-settings/+bug/1574789/comments/4 has an issue and it needs 1 line to be removed, please have a look when you have some free time...
[10:19] <flexiondotorg> alkisg, Understood. Thanks.
[10:20] <alkisg> Thank you too :)
[10:35] <danboid> flexiondotorg: Any idea when we might see updated (1.14) MATE packages for Arch?
[11:46] <mohan__> HI All
[11:47] <mohan__> Is any there to help me
[11:47] <mohan__> how can i close the application that stucks
[11:48] <danboid> mohan__: If you have xkill installed you can use that
[11:48] <danboid> mohan__: run xkill in a terminal then click on the window of the app you want to kill
[11:48] <mohan__> i don't have xkill
[11:49] <mohan__> sudo apt-get install xkill
[11:49] <mohan__> is it?
[11:50] <danboid> mohan__: apt-get install x11-utils
[11:51] <danboid> mohan__: MATE has its own process manager / monitor so you should install / try that first
[11:51] <danboid> I dunno if its installed by default as I've never run Ubuntu MATE
[11:52] <mohan__> ok
[11:52] <mohan__> yeah killed
[11:52] <mohan__> mine skype tooltip is messed up notshowing the text
[11:57] <mohan__> any comments
[12:18] <max__> nordlichtmv
[12:20] <Guest90908> scalierung für 4k bildschirm unter mate ?
[12:22] <Guest90908> wie finde ich chat auf deutsch danke
[12:57] <nomic> how do I get terminal from an applet
[12:57] <nomic> ssh ip addresss
[12:57] <nomic> does not work
[12:59] <nomic> gnom-terminal?
[14:51] <ubuntu-mate> Hey £
[14:52] <ouroumov> hey ubuntu-mate
[14:57] <ubuntu-mate> Haha
[14:58] <ubuntu-mate> this name is amaying
[15:00] <ubuntu-mate> Ouromov
[15:00] <ubuntu-mate> Are you on ubuntu-mate ?
[15:01] <ubuntu-mate> I think because you are in this #ubuntu-mate haha
[15:03] <ubuntu-mate> Hey ! draco_ !
[15:03] <draco_> hi
[15:03] <ubuntu-mate> Are you on ubuntu mate 16.04 ?
[15:04] <draco_> nope, I am on ubuntu 15.10, why?
[15:04] <ubuntu-mate> Juste for know, because i'm downloading ubuntu mate 16.04
[15:04] <ubuntu-mate> Because there is so many addition in the new version of ubuntu
[15:04] <ubuntu-mate> i think
[15:05] <draco_> I heard great stuff about Mate edition, should be great. I am on unity ubuntu 15.10 and I decided to just wait for 16.04.1
[15:05] <emma|offline> I love your nick, ubuntu-mate
[15:05] <emma|offline> though you must get pinged a lot in this channel
[15:05] <ubuntu-mate> ah ok @draco !
[15:05] <ubuntu-mate> Haha emma
[15:05] <ubuntu-mate> i change nick
[15:06] <draco_> I was thinking about going to 16.04 mate because of those additions but I don't want to reload my whole machine
[15:07] <draco_> it's taking a lot of time especially because I have crapy internet connection and need to download software that I am using to reinstall
[15:07] <emma|offline> i'm gonna install 16.04 MATE this weekend on my laptop probably
[15:07] <emma|offline> which is currently runnint 12.04 Kubuntu
[15:08] <emma|offline> and slowly starting to fail because functionality is less and less supported
[15:45] <max__> 228
[15:45] <max__> hello all
[16:01] <cacho> hola
[16:14] <guest-KNNm3W> popo
[16:14] <guest-KNNm3W> olpjihi
[17:00] <Alpha261> hi :)
[17:00] <QORRiE> yo
[17:05] <Alpha261> ive just installed ubuntu mate <3 on raspberry pi 3, everything is working great, i only got one little problem: every time im rebooting the pi, the composition wont work. its set to marco (software). if i set it to marco (no composition) and then set it back to marco (software) it works fine until i reboot it again. Anyone an idea what this could be?
[17:30] <Guest82767> can anyone help how install software centre in ubuntu mate
[17:32] <Alpha261> yep just open welcome
[17:33] <Alpha261> System > welcome >Software > More software
[17:34] <Alpha261> or open a terminal (Ctrl alt t)
[17:35] <Alpha261> and type sudo apt-get update
[17:37] <Alpha261> sudo apt-get install software-center
[17:38] <Guest82767> thanks
[17:38] <alkisg> software-center is deprecated, better install gnome-software
[17:38] <Guest82767> oki
[17:39] <Guest82767> is appgrid any good???
[17:39] <Guest82767> to install
[17:39] <alkisg> No idea
[17:39] <Guest82767> oki
[17:39] <Alpha261> i dont like it
[17:39] <Alpha261> but u wont know until u try it :)
[17:39] <Guest82767> iam new to ubuntu mate can u suggest me any tweeks
[17:41] <Alpha261> what do u mean?
[17:41] <Alpha261> good programs? games?
[17:41] <Alpha261> commands?
[17:42] <Guest82767> no no i mean how to increase the performance??
[17:43] <Alpha261> oh
[17:43] <Alpha261> mate is very fast i dont know anything to make it even faster
[17:43] <Guest82767> oki thanks
[17:43] <Alpha261> buy an ssd :D
[17:44] <demon0> can anyone suggest any good programs
[17:44] <demon0> in ubuntu mate
[17:44] <Alpha261> ~5 seconds boot time with samsung evo :D
[17:45] <Alpha261> programs for what?
[17:45] <demon0> programming??
[17:46] <Alpha261> geany, ubuntu sdk
[17:47] <demon0> oki
[17:47] <demon0> and any good text editor
[17:47] <demon0> ??
[17:47] <Alpha261> gui or cli?
[17:47] <demon0> gui
[17:47] <Alpha261> pluma
[17:48] <Alpha261> is already installed
[17:48] <demon0> ya but thats inbuild right??
[17:48] <Alpha261> yep
[17:48] <demon0> but i need other than pluma
[17:48] <Guest82767> try gedit
[17:49] <Alpha261> vim?
[17:49] <demon0> is it GUI
[17:49] <Alpha261> both yes
[17:49] <demon0> oki
[17:49] <demon0> can send me a link of that one
[17:50] <Alpha261> sudo apt install gvim
[17:50] <Alpha261> sudo apt install gedit
[17:50] <demon0> thanks
[17:50] <Alpha261> sudo apt update
[17:51] <Alpha261> make the update command first
[17:53] <demon0> oki done
[17:53] <demon0> thanks
[17:56] <Alpha_261> Hi
[17:56] <Alpha261> Hi
[17:56] <demon0> helo
[17:58] <Alpha261> did it work?
[18:00] <demon0> ya it works
[18:00] <demon0> thanks
[18:01] <Alpha261> no problem :D
[18:01] <demon0> do u have ebooks on linux??
[18:01] <demon0> if u have can share it me
[18:01] <demon0> i mean can u share it with me
[18:01] <demon0> :D
[18:03] <Alpha261> sorry i just have plain old made-of-paper-books :/
[18:03] <demon0> oki
[18:05] <demon0> do u know how join the Anonymous IRC??
[18:05] <demon0> there telling to ssl in hexchat
[18:05] <demon0> i dont know to use the ssl in hexchat
[18:05] <demon0> any idea
[18:05] <demon0> ??
[18:09] <Alpha261> ive got some books in the iBooks app on iphone
[18:09] <Alpha261> but idk how to send them
[18:09] <Alpha261> and theyre in german :D
[18:13] <demon0> sry i need it english
[18:14] <demon0> if u hav any ebooks in english feel free to send
[18:23] <mate|51322> hi, a couple of questions to the weather app:
[18:24] <mate|51322> 2) how could I make the radar show up? neither of the Berlin locations seem to show a map
[18:24] <mate|51322> 1) is there another weather app that has forecast for the next days
[18:24] <mate|51322> ?
[18:27] <mate|51322> also, "last updated"  keeps at 7.4.2014
[18:31] <festerB> mate|51322: for 1) im using ansiweather -F -l berlin
[18:32] <festerB> or ansiweather -F -l <your town>
[18:33] <mate|51322> neat
[18:35] <festerB> i have alias in my bashrc of course, one letter command
[18:56] <Alpha261> hi :)
[22:20] <festerB> Software Updater not connecting?
[22:21] <festerB> "Check your Inernet connection."
[22:21] <festerB> Internet even
[22:29] <Ramlinman41> It's working from western Canada
[22:34] <ubuntu-mate> Just dropped by to say thanks for the amazing work to the team behind Ubuntu MATE
[22:34] <ubuntu-mate> I've just tried 16.04, and I'm impressed.
[22:35] <ubuntu-mate> I'm a former elementary OS developer and I'm still impressed. That says a lot.
[22:35] <ubuntu-mate> Thanks guys. You rock.
[22:47] <festerB> Software Updater working now, it was "E: Failed to fetch http://dl.google.com/linux/chrome/deb/dists/stable/main/binary-amd64/Packages.bz2  Hash Sum mismatch"
[23:20] <amundsen> hi
[23:21] <amundsen> i'm having trouble to wathc youtube videos on um.16.04
[23:21] <amundsen> thye're going to slow
[23:21] <amundsen> too
[23:22] <rev_> Which browser are you using?
[23:22] <Ramlinman41> Hi amundsen, what are you using to watch?
[23:25] <amundsen> Ramlinman41, firefox
[23:26] <Ramlinman41> Are you having issues with all videos? and are you on a wireless connection?
[23:27] <amundsen> Ramlinman41, wired
[23:28] <amundsen> all videos, youtube, vevo, vimeo ....
[23:28] <amundsen> i never had this issue before
[23:28] <Ramlinman41> check this: https://www.google.com/get/videoqualityreport/
[23:29] <amundsen> same machine, same network, different os and this go fine
[23:30] <amundsen> but i dont know what's wrong in this version of ubuntu mate
[23:30] <amundsen> or what am i stting up wrong
[23:30] <Ramlinman41> It may be a driver issue
[23:30] <Ramlinman41> is it a laptop?
[23:30] <amundsen> system 76 meerkat
[23:31] <amundsen> specialy designed to work with linux
[23:31] <Ramlinman41> well you shouldn't have any issues with that...
[23:31] <amundsen> i'm running  another distro know and it flash videos go fine
[23:32] <Ramlinman41> which distro?
[23:32] <amundsen> but i'd like to use ubuntu-mate
[23:32] <amundsen> f23 mate
[23:33] <Ramlinman41> Huh... everything is pretty much the same between the two
[23:38] <Ramlinman41> The only real difference I can find is that F23 comes with a 4.2 kernel and UM16.04 uses 4.4
[23:40] <Ramlinman41> which window manager does F23 use?
[23:45] <amundsen> Ramlinman41, i'm using mate of course ...
[23:48] <Ramlinman41> Are you using defaults with both systems?