=== noy_ is now known as noy === ghostcube_ is now known as ghostcube === JanC is now known as Guest15251 === JanC_ is now known as JanC === Kilos- is now known as Kilos [15:01] o/ [15:02] \o [15:02] ø [15:02] Sorry, lost track of time. [15:03] hi [15:03] \o [15:04] o~ [15:05] no slangasek today? [15:06] slangasek: *poke* [15:06] o/ [15:06] pitti: He's at the snappy sprint, but he might be around? [15:06] I don't think he told any of us to take over for him. [15:06] *shrug* [15:06] #startmeeting [15:06] Meeting started Thu May 12 15:06:43 2016 UTC. The chair is pitti. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology. [15:06] Available commands: action commands idea info link nick [15:07] shuf results: xnox barry bdmurray tdaitx infinity chiluk pitti slangasek robru cyphermox caribou sil2100 doko [15:07] i win =) [15:07] (totally fair dice roll, I swear!) [15:07] #topic lightning round === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: lightning round [15:07] working on sru bugs for netcfg, gcc-5. [15:07] working on cloud-images for z/vm almost done to hand over to cpc team. [15:08] jetlagged, having afternoon naps. [15:08] done. [15:08] xnox: that's old age [15:08] xnox: Me too (re: jetlag). [15:08] jetlag, shmetlag [15:08] infinity, calgary & texas are not the same time zone? =) [15:08] recovering from lxd/schroot/encrypted home unmounting/kernel panic issues [15:08] pycon prep; @public decorator; PEP 8 discussions [15:08] LP: #1579738 [15:08] Launchpad bug 1579738 in Canonical System Image "Device stopped receiving OTA-updates due to outdated keyring" [Critical,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1579738 [15:08] SRU'd pip/pyparsing fixes; pex 1.1.6-1; pyflakes 1.2.2-1; pyparsing 2.1.1+dfsg1-1 (debian bug #710660; debian bug #735542; debian bug #823560); debian bug #823883; LP: #1560134; LP: #1578761; debian bug #823358; enum34 1.1.5-1 (debian bug #820312; debian bug #793506) [15:09] Debian bug 710660 in python3-pyparsing "python3-pyparsing: add autopkgtest" [Wishlist,Fixed] http://bugs.debian.org/710660 [15:09] Debian bug 735542 in python-pyparsing "Should Suggest: python-pyparsing-doc" [Wishlist,Fixed] http://bugs.debian.org/735542 [15:09] Debian bug 823560 in src:pyparsing "please build a pypy-pyparsing package" [Normal,Fixed] http://bugs.debian.org/823560 [15:09] Debian bug 823883 in autodep8 "autodep8: Support PyPy packages" [Wishlist,Open] http://bugs.debian.org/823883 [15:09] Launchpad bug 1560134 in pyflakes (Ubuntu) "TypeError: unsupported operand type(s) for +: 'NoneType' and 'str'" [Critical,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1560134 [15:09] xnox: Off by an hour! [15:09] starting on the libpeas resync [15:09] --done-- [15:09] added in yakkety, and its milestones, to the errors code [15:09] committed a fix to Errors for LP: #1571772 [15:09] created yakkety test crashes [15:09] fixed fetch-test-crashes to put right arch crashes in right folders [15:09] tested pitti's apport gdb changes in the staging env of the error tracker [15:09] Launchpad bug 1571772 in Errors "retrace failure example instance should be a clickable link" [Medium,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1571772 [15:09] investigation into why using sandbox version of gdb doesn't produce a crash_sig [15:09] reported apport bugs LP: #1580287, LP: #1579949, LP: #1579897 [15:09] Launchpad bug 1580287 in Apport "apport doesn't install gdb dependencies" [Undecided,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1580287 [15:09] submitted RT to have failed queue retracers stop using --sandbox [15:09] Launchpad bug 1579949 in apport (Ubuntu) "add_gdb_info hides OSErrors when running gdb during retracing" [Low,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1579949 [15:09] Launchpad bug 1579897 in apport (Ubuntu) "report's _command_output function doesn't always return the error" [Low,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1579897 [15:09] barry: done? [15:09] worked with barry to sort out issues with ubuntu-release-upgrader tests [15:09] resolved ubuntu-release-upgrader test ordering failure w/ test_sources_list [15:09] resolved ubuntu-release-upgrader unicode sources test failure [15:09] uploaded potential xenial fix for LP: #1538438 [15:09] ✔ done [15:09] barry: nevermind, scroll error [15:09] Launchpad bug 1538438 in apt (Ubuntu) "apt-helper crashed with SIGABRT in __gnu_cxx::__verbose_terminate_handler()" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1538438 [15:09] modified cranberry branch of ubuntureports ubuntu-archive-tools to be auto updated [15:10] = Security update for OpenJDK 6 [15:10] * New icedtea 1.13.11 release [15:10] * Provided backport to Wily, Trusty, and Precise to the security team on Friday; published on Tuesday [15:10] * ARM32 JIT is broken due to the hotspot security update [15:10] - IcedTea 1.x patches OpenJDK 6 to add ARM32 JIT [15:10] - Differently from IcedTea 2.x it provides no way to disable that build (it is always enabled) [15:10] :) [15:10] - doko added a small patch to prevent it from being build (thanks!) [15:10] * Trusty's OpenJDK 6 is in Universe but also being handled by the security team [15:10] - They release to both -security and -updates pockets [15:10] - Trying to understand if how much of an overburden this is (if any at all) for them [15:10] - If it is, then why do they care for Universe? Got a partial response, need further info [15:10] - Will tackle that on our next sprint [15:10] = JCK 8 [15:10] * Build packages for JCK 8 [15:10] - Being kept on a private repo [15:10] * Updated scripts to use the new JCK 8 packages [15:10] * Updated setup scripts to use LXD [15:10] * Refactoring scripts to break down dependencies and moving further to something that can used in a charm [15:10] = Other [15:10] * Handling new OpenJDK bugs (duplicates, requesting additional info from users, ...) [15:10] (done) [15:10] * Last week: [15:10] - Cloud sprint [15:10] - Emergency security kernel [15:10] * Two day week this week: [15:10] - SRU queue reviews [15:10] - SRUs for dpkg, apt, ubuntu-dev-tools, mplayer [15:10] - Merges [15:10] bdmurray: sorry, had to revert the "gdb from target release" thing, see bug [15:10] - Looking into LSB printing issues [15:10] - General AA cleanup work [15:10] - Test and release lts-xenial trusty d-i support [15:10] - Clean up ubuntu-core -> ubuntu-base rename [15:11] (done) [15:11] infinity, ubuntu-base is snapish or just-tarball? [15:11] basically a debootstrap tarball [15:11] ack [15:11] - LP 1579917 - Collected information for Intel, opened bugs with Lenovo as well. [15:11] - LP 1576747 - half-tabled. Need to grab debug logs. [15:11] - Day-job. This week was mostly issues related to ADS configuration. [15:11] Launchpad bug 1579917 in linux (Ubuntu) "Skylake processor never reaches low power states on X1 Carbon gen 4 with NVMe drive" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1579917 [15:11] Launchpad bug 1576747 in network-manager (Ubuntu) "Network manager unable to control wifi after suspend in 16.04" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1576747 [15:12] xnox: It's the ubuntu-core rootfs tarball renamed to avoid confusion with people stealing my product name. :P [15:12] - Merging ... [15:12] - done [15:12] infinity, =) [15:12] autopkgtest: [15:12] - fix lxd bridge detection in LXD image build script, and generalize proxy detection support [15:12] - britney: make force-badtest hints apply to lower versions, and to running tests (#1579095) [15:12] distro fixes: [15:12] - apport: Fix gdb error handling during retracing (#1579949, #1579897), test/analyze #1517257, revert our initial solution as it's broken [15:12] - Investigate apport regression on amd64, libnih/gcc problem (#1580601) [15:12] - libxmlada: fix autopkgtest regression [15:12] - postgresql: prepare new upstream security/bug fix releases for all supported Ubuntu releases (#1581016) [15:12] - Review/merge https://code.launchpad.net/~ted/whoopsie/ftbfs-network-manager/+merge/294166 [15:12] - systemd: make timesyncd respect DHCP-advertised NTP servers (#1578663), revert default #threads limit (#1578080) [15:12] - lots of SRU reviews (are infinity and me the only ones doing these now?), cleaned up old SRUs [15:12] yakkety planning: [15:12] - Discuss/research/draft convergence-y-replace-upstart blueprint, waiting for cypermox and slangasek to review/approve [15:12] pitti: I saw, thanks. I wonder if there isn't some other approach to doing the retracing. [15:12] - Discuss/research/draft convergence-y-replace-upstart blueprint; ongoing, systemd --user is designed differently and it is not yet clear how to apply that (https://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/systemd-devel/2016-May/036440.html) [15:12] (end) [15:12] so no slangasek ? [15:12] lp:bileto [15:12] - prepped for TRIO landings (soon we'll have yakkety+xenial+vivid silos) [15:12] lp:cupstream2distro [15:12] - prepped for TRIO landings [15:12] lp:canonical-mojo-specs [15:12] - submitted branch to fix some paths that are changing [15:13] parallelization work [15:13] - bileto build job is nearly complete. just needs to finish unit tests and flesh out some corner cases [15:13] (EOF) [15:13] - merges: d-i (partially done), cdrom-checker [15:13] - discussed grub vs. gfxboot on CDs for bug LP: #1530530 with Mirv [15:13] - grub2 zfs integration and SRU (bug LP: #1527727) [15:13] - moving secure boot dkms magic to shim and using triggers [15:13] - investigating how to have NM unmanage most devices except wwan and wlan [15:13] bdmurray: we could perhaps first try to run gdb.$release on the host, and fall back to gdb if that doesn't exist? (same for -multiarch) [15:13] pitti: re: are we the only ones doing them? I suspect that's been true this week, but bdmurray and arges will no doubt wake up again. [15:13] Launchpad bug 1530530 in gfxboot-theme-ubuntu (Ubuntu) "Installer doesn't show up on some Chromebook" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1530530 [15:13] (done) [15:13] Launchpad bug 1527727 in grub2-signed (Ubuntu Xenial) "grub-probe for zfs assumes all devices prefix with /dev, ignoring /dev/disk/..." [Medium,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1527727 [15:13] Bugfix : [15:13] - multipath coredump: [15:13] LP: #1532789 - uploaded for SRU [15:13] Lot of issues with multipath-tools on Trusty recently [15:13] - Apache 2.4.18(xenial) backport (LP: #1335068) [15:13] Request help from laney [15:13] Launchpad bug 1532789 in multipath-tools (Ubuntu Trusty) "Trusty multipath-tools suffering seg faults" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1532789 [15:13] - qemu-img hang on Mutex [15:13] Launchpad bug 1335068 in trusty-backports "Please backport apache2 2.4.10-1ubuntu1 (main) from Utopic" [Undecided,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1335068 [15:13] Identified kernel bug fixed in Xenial [15:13] infinity: whats the issue? [15:13] Trusty has the fix in lts-xenial [15:13] pitti: I'm also going to get apw in the rotation once he's done a few with handholding. [15:13] Development work: [15:13] - makedumpfile development [15:13] Various contribution from HPE [15:13] further fix for s390 enablement [15:13] arges: SRU queues backing up a bit. [15:13] infinity: oh, nice [15:14] - Various sponsoring : bash-completion, packagekit [15:14] pitti: I didn't do my shift last week because of the sprint and the week before I was on holiday. [15:14] ☑ Done [15:14] - Landing team work, silo coordination, preparing landing e-mails [15:14] - RTM status meetings [15:14] - General work on OTA-11 [15:14] - Xenial touch transition [15:14] * Pushing no-change rebuilds after libhybris arm64 enablement [15:14] * Preparing automated scripts for checking arm64 buildability in touch packages [15:14] infinity: i did a bunch yesterday actually...there are just a lot [15:14] * Various poking people regarding arm64 build failures [15:14] - Touch translations [15:14] * Looking into missing translations in exports for OTA-11, poking to get that fixed [15:14] * Finishing up some automated scripts for langpack sanity-checking [15:14] - Discussions on tarball release processes [15:14] arges: Ahh, good. Then nevermind me calling you out. :) [15:14] - Helping out in getting the jenkaas custom tarball jobs working (firewalls, setup) [15:14] - system-image: [15:14] * Figuring out the issue with broken OTAs after key rotation with Barry and fixing it [15:14] np [15:14] * Modifying the documentation [15:14] * Removing stale unused devices in stable channels [15:14] * Switching all custom tarball imports from s-jenkins to jenkaas [15:14] - Properly setting up the DMB meeting on the fridge calendar [15:14] - DMB meeting [15:14] - Touch seed updates per various requests, adding new frameworks [15:14] - Touch emulator [15:15] * Preparing the emergency snapshot with OTA-10.1 packages and building emulator images [15:15] * Promoting generic and generic_x86 to the stable channels [15:15] (done) [15:15] arges: And yeah, post-lts-release, the queues tend to be worse than usual, as everyone remembers all the bugs they forgot to fix a week before release. [15:15] bdmurray, infinity, arges: I was asking because seb128 seemed interested in joining but didn't get a response last time [15:15] pitti: I'll take that discussion off a public channel. :) [15:15] sil2100: oh, what do you test in langpacks? anything applicable to the distro too? [15:17] pitti: simple stuff, not sure if it'll be useful: checking image manifests and seeing if any langpacks are missing or added, checking versions, checking contents for .po files (listing if some are missing/added) [15:17] sil2100: the last one seems interesting indeed [15:17] pitti: basically covering some of the common error cases in our touch POV [15:17] doko: ? [15:17] sil2100: Any kind of testing would be decent. Our langpack SRU process is pretty awful these days. [15:17] sil2100: So, if you come up with any automation that's remotely handly, please hand it off to pitti and we can make the world a better place. [15:18] also, fridge cal? just request in #ubuntu-news [15:19] infinity: ok, sure, currently the scripts are very touch oriented as in they're looking at certain touch channel top-most images and checking their manifests as well, but certain tests can be made optional I suppose to make it more useful for others too [15:19] sil2100: Right, anything that's checking the actual package contents would be nice to have. [15:19] sil2100: Right now, I think pitti's method is to spot-check a few languages for sanity, make sure nothing was FTBFS, and assume it's all good to promote. [15:20] I usually do some kind of diff <(find old) <(find new) thing as a sanity check [15:20] (And, honestly, it's hard to come up with a "good" test that isn't "find 60 testers who speak 60 languages and ask them to install 400 packages") [15:20] and then download the -de pakcages and test them, but there's not much more [15:20] infinity: that's actually the test plan right now -- install an update, run through a (short) list of verification steps and mark it off on the wiki page [15:21] ok, no doko apparently, so [15:21] #topic AOB === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: AOB [15:22] I recommend we all lose/gain 20 pounds (as appropriate) before Athens, so we can be the sexiest nerds on the beach. [15:22] * pitti goes off to do about 120.000 push-ups then [15:22] pitti: Yeah, in your case, you might want to gain 50. ;) [15:23] ubuntu beach sprint party - awesome movie [15:23] barry: Well, you're not wrong. It'll cause awe. [15:23] but which beach? [15:23] Perhaps not for the reasons we'd like. :) [15:23] or palindromically: ew, a.... [15:24] infinity: people will go blind from the glare of too much white skin [15:24] AFAIK the ocean is some 5 km away, so not just an easy walk from the hotel :/ [15:24] pitti: I recommend whichever beach is most popular with middle-aged American tourists, so we have a fighting chance of finding someone who looks worse in a swimsuit. [15:25] cyphermox: or deaf from getting technobabbled all day? [15:25] ok, clearly.. [15:25] #endmeeting === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: Ubuntu Meeting Grounds: Please leave swords by the door | Calendar/Scheduled meetings: http://fridge.ubuntu.com/calendars | Logs: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MeetingLogs | Meetingology documentation: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology [15:25] Meeting ended Thu May 12 15:25:56 2016 UTC. [15:25] Minutes: http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-meeting/2016/ubuntu-meeting.2016-05-12-15.06.moin.txt [15:25] Heh. [15:26] infinity: cyphermox: that's what we'll all look on the beach : https://youtu.be/eTm0X93l8vk?t=1m8s [15:27] is that gilligan? [15:27] cyphermox: non, "L'avanture c'est l'avanture" from Lelouch [15:28] That's a lot of very French looking men. [15:28] Now I need to watch a Jean Reno moview. [15:28] Or a movie. [15:33] thanks everyone [15:33] o/ [15:34] \o [15:37] pitti: oops - good meeting :) [15:37] (sorry, sprinting and failed to send my regrets) [15:38] slangasek: no worries, you can still go to scrollback to see what we broke this week :)