[11:05] <Odd_Bloke> Looking at all of my server and desktop installs, I have backports enabled, but http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-core-dev/livecd-rootfs/trunk/view/head:/live-build/auto/build#L132 has it commented out; could that change to have it enabled?
[11:05] <Odd_Bloke> (I'm asking in the context of https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/livecd-rootfs/+bug/1513529, where we're being asked to have the same sources.list in cloud images as server images, including enabled backports)
[11:05] <ubot5> Ubuntu bug 1513529 in livecd-rootfs (Ubuntu) "cloud images should be built with the same /etc/apt/sources.list as server images" [High,In progress]
[11:07] <Odd_Bloke> infinity: cjwatson: (You seem like you would have Thoughts on the above. :)
[11:10] <infinity> Odd_Bloke: You're reusing my old preinstalled code?  Ick.
[11:10] <infinity> Odd_Bloke: But yes, if that's where your sources.list is coming from, it should be resynced to match what apt-setup does, as it originally did.
[11:11] <cjwatson> do the same kind of thing as is done for universe just above I guess
[11:13] <infinity> Not convinced that's where your sources.list is coming from, though.
[11:14] <infinity> Oh, maybe it is.
[11:15] <infinity> Gross.
[11:15] <infinity> I'm so full of regret right now.
[11:17] <Odd_Bloke> infinity: Is there a right way that we could start doing it in yakkety?
[11:18]  * yofel goes fixing nmqt in x-proposed
[11:18] <Odd_Bloke> (We're also going to want this back in xenial, so we'll presumably have to just make the gross change there)
[11:18] <infinity> Odd_Bloke: Well, just fix that bit for now.  I need to tear out half my stale preinstalled-server stuff, and if some of that causes fallout for CPC, we'll think of a less gross way to do things.
[11:18] <infinity> Odd_Bloke: But yeah, for now, just do the obvious thing for xenial/yakkety.
[11:18] <infinity> Odd_Bloke: When I go deleting 500 lines of evil, we'll talk. :)
[11:19] <Odd_Bloke> ^_^
[11:25] <Odd_Bloke> Hmph, I can't totally cargo-cult universe thought because having backports in LB_PARENT_ARCHIVE_AREAS doesn't make sense.
[11:27] <Odd_Bloke> Aha, but there are already backport related options in live-build that I can, perhaps, steal.
[11:31] <infinity> Odd_Bloke: Hrm?
[11:31] <infinity> Odd_Bloke: What you should do it look at a clean sources.list from a server install, and then translate that to the bit in live-build/auto/build so the result looks the same.
[11:32] <Odd_Bloke> infinity: The way universe works is by checking if universe is in LB_PARENT_ARCHIVE_AREAS (which is used verbatim elsewhere).  Having backports in there doesn't make sense, so I need another way to signal from auto/config to auto/build that backports should be enabled.
[11:33] <Odd_Bloke> infinity: Unless we're happy to just remove the comments wholesale (to match a server install), rather than make it tweakable?
[11:33] <infinity> Odd_Bloke: If installs no longer comment things by default, cloud images should match.
[11:35] <Odd_Bloke> infinity: Cool, I'll just make it match.
[11:40] <Odd_Bloke> "On releases after and including Ubuntu 11.10 (Oneiric Ocelot) ... apt is configured with Backports enabled by default."  <-- probably safe to switch cloud images over now ¬.¬
[11:40] <yofel> pitti: ^ now with fixed symbols (the pre-upload testenv didn't have -proposed enabled, sorry)
[12:14] <pitti> yofel: thanks!
[15:04] <bdmurray> pitti: that remove from the archive SRU code, which you are using, is commenting on bugs multiple times
[15:05] <pitti> bdmurray: I sometimes ran it twice due to LP timeouts, just that?
[15:05] <pitti> bdmurray: other than that I removed the same package from multiple releases, and the comments would only differ in the release name
[15:06] <bdmurray> pitti: okay, looking at bug 1512902 I guess there is only one comment but I got 5 emails or so
[15:06] <ubot5> bug 1512902 in apport (Ubuntu Wily) "apport will create .upload files for incomplete or corrupt crash reports" [High,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1512902
[15:17] <bdmurray> pitti: let me know when you wrap w/ SRU work so I can do some (if there's any left!)
[15:17] <pitti> bdmurray: I'm done, and yes, there's still plenty left :) (I didn't even start on t/w queues yet)
[16:59] <bdmurray> infinity: Could you fully phase the ubuntu-drivers-common update for xenial?
[17:03] <LocutusOfBorg> any anybody please make vmtk migrate (I think by removing powerpc binary), and then try to remove insighttoolkit too? it should be the blocker for removal
[17:04] <LocutusOfBorg> and then if you demote fslview we can also just remove vtk too
[17:04] <LocutusOfBorg> (note: they have been both removed in debian)
[17:06] <infinity> bdmurray: Seems possible.
[17:27] <rbasak> smoser: ^^ do you want that simplestreams upload rejected?
[17:27] <smoser> nah.
[19:51] <infinity> bdmurray: ^--- That mtr SRU is SUPER IMPORTANT.
[19:54] <bdmurray> infinity: then why isn't importance CRITICAL?
[19:54] <infinity> bdmurray: I can reupload.
[19:54] <bdmurray> infinity: I meant the bug tasks.
[19:55] <infinity> (In all seriousness, it's about as critical as my decision about pizza or burgers for dinner, but if you use mtr daily, it's probably bugged you too... :P)
[19:56] <infinity> bdmurray: And it's one of those annoying bugs where I finally got sick of it, taught myself ncurses so I could fix it, fixed it locally, which then gave me the keywords required to Google and discover that upstream had already fixed it.
[19:56] <bdmurray> The choice between burgers or pizza could lead to heart disease (or something)
[19:56] <infinity> (argh)
[20:04] <flocculant> couple more a's there - argh is just indigestion