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nhainespleia2: do you want to talk about release things in the upcoming meeting?05:14
pleia2nhaines: probably should do, I can add to the agenda05:17
pleia2done05:18
nhainesWell that was quick.  :)05:18
pleia2:D05:18
nhainesThanks.  The plan was for me not to ignore my work item on meeting reminders this week.05:19
pleia2thank you05:21
nhainesI didn't forget about last meeting.  I just ended up two counties away helping a friend with a new trailer purchase and didn't get home until like 9:30.05:23
nhainesI have a feeling that nobody reads the announcement emails and I'm moving the agenda and meeting page link to the second paragraph.05:24
pleia2I suspect most people just skim them, that's what I tend to do for groups I'm not involved with much05:26
pleia2(except lately, when apparently I read almost nothing as I attempt to finish this stupid book)05:26
nhainesYes, I've been doing lots of book work, too.05:27
nhainesI was both disappointed and relieved when the book I was tech reviewing was canceled and I was asked to invoice for work performed.05:28
pleia2aw, that's sad05:28
nhainesYeah, but it was on Ubuntu app development and frankly, that's changing soooo fast....05:28
pleia2ah yeah, totally05:28
nhainesI was offered to take it over, but I'm not much of a developer.  (Plus, to be honest, editing and at the moment ghostwriting pays a billion times more.)05:29
nhainesSo I told my editor that I'd let her know once the phone rebases to snappy, because *that's* probably the time to jump back into the topic with a book.  :)05:30
* pleia2 nods05:30
nhainesPart of me wants to write an LXD book because I'm having a lot of fun completely breaking attempted dev environments in LXC containers.  The other part of me is pretty sure I shouldn't go anywhere near LXD book authorship.  ;)05:30
pleia2there's a lot of fun to be had in that space, were you at Dustin's talk at SCALE on adapt install?05:33
nhainesI was not!05:33
pleia2https://www.socallinuxexpo.org/scale/14x/presentations/adapt-install-anything-your-ubuntu-lts-serverdesktop05:33
darthrobot`Title: ["adapt install [anything]" on your Ubuntu LTS server/desktop! | SCALE 15x]05:33
pleia2https://youtu.be/HUvmL3WZNOc?t=4h42m05:33
darthrobot`[R: www.youtube.com] Title: [Ballroom G Sunday Jan. 24 - SCaLE 14x - YouTube]05:33
nhainesBut I will be giving a demonstration at OCLUG.  I note that new containerstake 24 seconds to instantiate on ext4 and 4 seconds on zfs and it makes me happy!05:34
nhainesThanks for the links!05:34
pleia2used LXD to provide different versions of software on a system simultaneously05:34
nhainesI set up OwnCloud in an instance just to test how a clean install would work on xenial.  This server's still running trusty and I'd like to change that as soon as possible.05:34
* pleia2 nods05:35
nhainesAlso if letsencrypt would run at all I'd be sooo happy.05:35
pleia2heh, I wish their docs were better :(05:35
pleia2lots of "just run this thing and magic" but when no magic...05:35
nhainesBut it was really cool to have it up and running.  In theory I could upgrade the server, scrape the database off the sides of the SSD, and then push it into a trusty container.05:35
nhainesAnd then do iptables magic.05:35
nhainesWhich docs?  :)05:35
nhaines(It's a trick question: all docs suck.)  :(05:36
pleia2hah05:36
pleia2but I was talking about letsencrypt05:36
nhainesYeah.  I know I have a cronjob set up monthly, but it seems to break irreparably well before then.05:37
nhainesA clean git pull crashes on my server here.05:37
nhainesAnd of course, it's in the xenial archives.05:37
pleia2yikes05:38
nhainesSo I can upgrade to xenial and get it, but that breaks owncloud in my tests, and then the best case scenario is that I put OwnCloud in a happy little trusty container and then can't get letsencrypt over there.  ;)05:39
nhainesOh well, we'll see how it goes.05:39
nhainesI have until the end of the month to fix letsencrypt.05:40
pleia2heh :)05:40
nhainesSysadmin adventures!  \o/05:41
nhainespleia2: oh, cute yak btw!05:42
pleia2thanks, he is cute :)05:43
pleia2I almost went with a more real looking one like my tahr, but I'm glad I went with whimsy for an after-lts release critter05:44
nhainesYakkety *will* be pretty interesting.05:44
pleia2not as interesting as I had hoped (not Unity 8) but still some good stuff05:45
nhainesUnity has quite a ways to go still.  But it's just starting to be *really* usable as a daily driver.05:46
nhainesWhich is good because it's really brittle and annoying.  But that's what gets it fixed.  I know mhall119 filed a ton of bugs since he started using it daily for work.05:47
pleia2I will be happy when onboard plays nice with xorg apps on my tablet05:47
pleia2I was like "yay libreoffice.. hey, I can't type"05:47
DonkeyHoteii still think diarrhoeic dragon would be a great release name05:47
nhainesThat was supposed to be OTA-11 but it hasn't appeared in rc-proposed yet.05:47
pleia2nhaines: fingers crossed05:47
pleia2it's muy broken05:47
nhainespleia2: on the bright side, I have a Logitech Bluetooth keyboard coming tomorrow.  :D05:48
pleia2nice :)05:48
pleia2there's a lenovo one I have my eye on05:48
pleia2but so expensive05:49
nhainesYeah, I got Amazon Prime for a month because it was cheaper than shipping for the case and SlimPort adapter.  Then yesterday Amazon was like "You know that $50 Logitech keyboard everyone uses and you've wanted?  Well for the next 6 hours it's $30 and you can have it in two hours and we'll take $10 off for your first Amazon Prime Now purchase."05:50
nhainesAnd I was like "Go away, Amazon."05:50
pleia2lol05:51
nhainesBut today... today I decided I really should, and it's full price (well, $40) and not available through Prime Now (probably sold out).05:51
nhainesSo I got a refurbished one.05:51
pleia2cool05:52
pleia2which one is it?05:52
nhainesThis one: http://www.androidpolice.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/09/nexus2cee_wm_IMG_3630.jpg05:53
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nhainesI kinda wanted the one with a trackpad, also I kept thinking "I already have a Bluetooth keyboard" but it's a crappy $12 one that works fine but if you stop typing and it turns off you have to flick the power switch on and off.05:54
pleia2that's neat05:58
nhainesYup.  And just like the SlimPort adapter I bought, other people already tested it, so I know it just works! \o/06:10
lynorianI wondered if there was a meeting and ended up speaking to an empty channel06:43
lynorianalthough installing a virtual machine from the wrong iso is not good06:44

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