[05:14] <nhaines> pleia2: do you want to talk about release things in the upcoming meeting?
[05:17] <pleia2> nhaines: probably should do, I can add to the agenda
[05:18] <pleia2> done
[05:18] <nhaines> Well that was quick.  :)
[05:18] <pleia2> :D
[05:19] <nhaines> Thanks.  The plan was for me not to ignore my work item on meeting reminders this week.
[05:21] <pleia2> thank you
[05:23] <nhaines> I didn't forget about last meeting.  I just ended up two counties away helping a friend with a new trailer purchase and didn't get home until like 9:30.
[05:24] <nhaines> I have a feeling that nobody reads the announcement emails and I'm moving the agenda and meeting page link to the second paragraph.
[05:26] <pleia2> I suspect most people just skim them, that's what I tend to do for groups I'm not involved with much
[05:26] <pleia2> (except lately, when apparently I read almost nothing as I attempt to finish this stupid book)
[05:27] <nhaines> Yes, I've been doing lots of book work, too.
[05:28] <nhaines> I was both disappointed and relieved when the book I was tech reviewing was canceled and I was asked to invoice for work performed.
[05:28] <pleia2> aw, that's sad
[05:28] <nhaines> Yeah, but it was on Ubuntu app development and frankly, that's changing soooo fast....
[05:28] <pleia2> ah yeah, totally
[05:29] <nhaines> I was offered to take it over, but I'm not much of a developer.  (Plus, to be honest, editing and at the moment ghostwriting pays a billion times more.)
[05:30] <nhaines> So I told my editor that I'd let her know once the phone rebases to snappy, because *that's* probably the time to jump back into the topic with a book.  :)
[05:30]  * pleia2 nods
[05:30] <nhaines> Part of me wants to write an LXD book because I'm having a lot of fun completely breaking attempted dev environments in LXC containers.  The other part of me is pretty sure I shouldn't go anywhere near LXD book authorship.  ;)
[05:33] <pleia2> there's a lot of fun to be had in that space, were you at Dustin's talk at SCALE on adapt install?
[05:33] <nhaines> I was not!
[05:33] <pleia2> https://www.socallinuxexpo.org/scale/14x/presentations/adapt-install-anything-your-ubuntu-lts-serverdesktop
[05:33] <darthrobot`> Title: ["adapt install [anything]" on your Ubuntu LTS server/desktop! | SCALE 15x]
[05:33] <pleia2> https://youtu.be/HUvmL3WZNOc?t=4h42m
[05:33] <darthrobot`> [R: www.youtube.com] Title: [Ballroom G Sunday Jan. 24 - SCaLE 14x - YouTube]
[05:34] <nhaines> But I will be giving a demonstration at OCLUG.  I note that new containerstake 24 seconds to instantiate on ext4 and 4 seconds on zfs and it makes me happy!
[05:34] <nhaines> Thanks for the links!
[05:34] <pleia2> used LXD to provide different versions of software on a system simultaneously
[05:34] <nhaines> I set up OwnCloud in an instance just to test how a clean install would work on xenial.  This server's still running trusty and I'd like to change that as soon as possible.
[05:35]  * pleia2 nods
[05:35] <nhaines> Also if letsencrypt would run at all I'd be sooo happy.
[05:35] <pleia2> heh, I wish their docs were better :(
[05:35] <pleia2> lots of "just run this thing and magic" but when no magic...
[05:35] <nhaines> But it was really cool to have it up and running.  In theory I could upgrade the server, scrape the database off the sides of the SSD, and then push it into a trusty container.
[05:35] <nhaines> And then do iptables magic.
[05:35] <nhaines> Which docs?  :)
[05:36] <nhaines> (It's a trick question: all docs suck.)  :(
[05:36] <pleia2> hah
[05:36] <pleia2> but I was talking about letsencrypt
[05:37] <nhaines> Yeah.  I know I have a cronjob set up monthly, but it seems to break irreparably well before then.
[05:37] <nhaines> A clean git pull crashes on my server here.
[05:37] <nhaines> And of course, it's in the xenial archives.
[05:38] <pleia2> yikes
[05:39] <nhaines> So I can upgrade to xenial and get it, but that breaks owncloud in my tests, and then the best case scenario is that I put OwnCloud in a happy little trusty container and then can't get letsencrypt over there.  ;)
[05:39] <nhaines> Oh well, we'll see how it goes.
[05:40] <nhaines> I have until the end of the month to fix letsencrypt.
[05:40] <pleia2> heh :)
[05:41] <nhaines> Sysadmin adventures!  \o/
[05:42] <nhaines> pleia2: oh, cute yak btw!
[05:43] <pleia2> thanks, he is cute :)
[05:44] <pleia2> I almost went with a more real looking one like my tahr, but I'm glad I went with whimsy for an after-lts release critter
[05:44] <nhaines> Yakkety *will* be pretty interesting.
[05:45] <pleia2> not as interesting as I had hoped (not Unity 8) but still some good stuff
[05:46] <nhaines> Unity has quite a ways to go still.  But it's just starting to be *really* usable as a daily driver.
[05:47] <nhaines> Which is good because it's really brittle and annoying.  But that's what gets it fixed.  I know mhall119 filed a ton of bugs since he started using it daily for work.
[05:47] <pleia2> I will be happy when onboard plays nice with xorg apps on my tablet
[05:47] <pleia2> I was like "yay libreoffice.. hey, I can't type"
[05:47] <DonkeyHotei> i still think diarrhoeic dragon would be a great release name
[05:47] <nhaines> That was supposed to be OTA-11 but it hasn't appeared in rc-proposed yet.
[05:47] <pleia2> nhaines: fingers crossed
[05:47] <pleia2> it's muy broken
[05:48] <nhaines> pleia2: on the bright side, I have a Logitech Bluetooth keyboard coming tomorrow.  :D
[05:48] <pleia2> nice :)
[05:48] <pleia2> there's a lenovo one I have my eye on
[05:49] <pleia2> but so expensive
[05:50] <nhaines> Yeah, I got Amazon Prime for a month because it was cheaper than shipping for the case and SlimPort adapter.  Then yesterday Amazon was like "You know that $50 Logitech keyboard everyone uses and you've wanted?  Well for the next 6 hours it's $30 and you can have it in two hours and we'll take $10 off for your first Amazon Prime Now purchase."
[05:50] <nhaines> And I was like "Go away, Amazon."
[05:51] <pleia2> lol
[05:51] <nhaines> But today... today I decided I really should, and it's full price (well, $40) and not available through Prime Now (probably sold out).
[05:51] <nhaines> So I got a refurbished one.
[05:52] <pleia2> cool
[05:52] <pleia2> which one is it?
[05:53] <nhaines> This one: http://www.androidpolice.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/09/nexus2cee_wm_IMG_3630.jpg
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[05:54] <nhaines> I kinda wanted the one with a trackpad, also I kept thinking "I already have a Bluetooth keyboard" but it's a crappy $12 one that works fine but if you stop typing and it turns off you have to flick the power switch on and off.
[05:58] <pleia2> that's neat
[06:10] <nhaines> Yup.  And just like the SlimPort adapter I bought, other people already tested it, so I know it just works! \o/
[06:43] <lynorian> I wondered if there was a meeting and ended up speaking to an empty channel
[06:44] <lynorian> although installing a virtual machine from the wrong iso is not good