[05:14] pleia2: do you want to talk about release things in the upcoming meeting? [05:17] nhaines: probably should do, I can add to the agenda [05:18] done [05:18] Well that was quick. :) [05:18] :D [05:19] Thanks. The plan was for me not to ignore my work item on meeting reminders this week. [05:21] thank you [05:23] I didn't forget about last meeting. I just ended up two counties away helping a friend with a new trailer purchase and didn't get home until like 9:30. [05:24] I have a feeling that nobody reads the announcement emails and I'm moving the agenda and meeting page link to the second paragraph. [05:26] I suspect most people just skim them, that's what I tend to do for groups I'm not involved with much [05:26] (except lately, when apparently I read almost nothing as I attempt to finish this stupid book) [05:27] Yes, I've been doing lots of book work, too. [05:28] I was both disappointed and relieved when the book I was tech reviewing was canceled and I was asked to invoice for work performed. [05:28] aw, that's sad [05:28] Yeah, but it was on Ubuntu app development and frankly, that's changing soooo fast.... [05:28] ah yeah, totally [05:29] I was offered to take it over, but I'm not much of a developer. (Plus, to be honest, editing and at the moment ghostwriting pays a billion times more.) [05:30] So I told my editor that I'd let her know once the phone rebases to snappy, because *that's* probably the time to jump back into the topic with a book. :) [05:30] * pleia2 nods [05:30] Part of me wants to write an LXD book because I'm having a lot of fun completely breaking attempted dev environments in LXC containers. The other part of me is pretty sure I shouldn't go anywhere near LXD book authorship. ;) [05:33] there's a lot of fun to be had in that space, were you at Dustin's talk at SCALE on adapt install? [05:33] I was not! [05:33] https://www.socallinuxexpo.org/scale/14x/presentations/adapt-install-anything-your-ubuntu-lts-serverdesktop [05:33] Title: ["adapt install [anything]" on your Ubuntu LTS server/desktop! | SCALE 15x] [05:33] https://youtu.be/HUvmL3WZNOc?t=4h42m [05:33] [R: www.youtube.com] Title: [Ballroom G Sunday Jan. 24 - SCaLE 14x - YouTube] [05:34] But I will be giving a demonstration at OCLUG. I note that new containerstake 24 seconds to instantiate on ext4 and 4 seconds on zfs and it makes me happy! [05:34] Thanks for the links! [05:34] used LXD to provide different versions of software on a system simultaneously [05:34] I set up OwnCloud in an instance just to test how a clean install would work on xenial. This server's still running trusty and I'd like to change that as soon as possible. [05:35] * pleia2 nods [05:35] Also if letsencrypt would run at all I'd be sooo happy. [05:35] heh, I wish their docs were better :( [05:35] lots of "just run this thing and magic" but when no magic... [05:35] But it was really cool to have it up and running. In theory I could upgrade the server, scrape the database off the sides of the SSD, and then push it into a trusty container. [05:35] And then do iptables magic. [05:35] Which docs? :) [05:36] (It's a trick question: all docs suck.) :( [05:36] hah [05:36] but I was talking about letsencrypt [05:37] Yeah. I know I have a cronjob set up monthly, but it seems to break irreparably well before then. [05:37] A clean git pull crashes on my server here. [05:37] And of course, it's in the xenial archives. [05:38] yikes [05:39] So I can upgrade to xenial and get it, but that breaks owncloud in my tests, and then the best case scenario is that I put OwnCloud in a happy little trusty container and then can't get letsencrypt over there. ;) [05:39] Oh well, we'll see how it goes. [05:40] I have until the end of the month to fix letsencrypt. [05:40] heh :) [05:41] Sysadmin adventures! \o/ [05:42] pleia2: oh, cute yak btw! [05:43] thanks, he is cute :) [05:44] I almost went with a more real looking one like my tahr, but I'm glad I went with whimsy for an after-lts release critter [05:44] Yakkety *will* be pretty interesting. [05:45] not as interesting as I had hoped (not Unity 8) but still some good stuff [05:46] Unity has quite a ways to go still. But it's just starting to be *really* usable as a daily driver. [05:47] Which is good because it's really brittle and annoying. But that's what gets it fixed. I know mhall119 filed a ton of bugs since he started using it daily for work. [05:47] I will be happy when onboard plays nice with xorg apps on my tablet [05:47] I was like "yay libreoffice.. hey, I can't type" [05:47] i still think diarrhoeic dragon would be a great release name [05:47] That was supposed to be OTA-11 but it hasn't appeared in rc-proposed yet. [05:47] nhaines: fingers crossed [05:47] it's muy broken [05:48] pleia2: on the bright side, I have a Logitech Bluetooth keyboard coming tomorrow. :D [05:48] nice :) [05:48] there's a lenovo one I have my eye on [05:49] but so expensive [05:50] Yeah, I got Amazon Prime for a month because it was cheaper than shipping for the case and SlimPort adapter. Then yesterday Amazon was like "You know that $50 Logitech keyboard everyone uses and you've wanted? Well for the next 6 hours it's $30 and you can have it in two hours and we'll take $10 off for your first Amazon Prime Now purchase." [05:50] And I was like "Go away, Amazon." [05:51] lol [05:51] But today... today I decided I really should, and it's full price (well, $40) and not available through Prime Now (probably sold out). [05:51] So I got a refurbished one. [05:52] cool [05:52] which one is it? [05:53] This one: http://www.androidpolice.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/09/nexus2cee_wm_IMG_3630.jpg [05:53] Content type: [image/jpeg] Size: [292143] [05:54] I kinda wanted the one with a trackpad, also I kept thinking "I already have a Bluetooth keyboard" but it's a crappy $12 one that works fine but if you stop typing and it turns off you have to flick the power switch on and off. [05:58] that's neat [06:10] Yup. And just like the SlimPort adapter I bought, other people already tested it, so I know it just works! \o/ [06:43] I wondered if there was a meeting and ended up speaking to an empty channel [06:44] although installing a virtual machine from the wrong iso is not good