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kmossHowdy, y'all.  Anyone online?01:13
kmossHi WoodyPC01:17
WoodyPCHello, I just found yall on here, thought I'd see about you guys and gals.01:18
WoodyPCWhat all do yall chat about here?01:18
kmossHey, me too.01:18
kmossNo idea.  I'm trying to figure out what the best desktop environment for shortcut keys is.01:19
WoodyPCWell I guess we all know that we are in Texas....lol01:19
WoodyPCwhat are you using now?01:20
WoodyPCyour desktop version is?01:21
kmosshaha, true01:21
kmossI'm using mint, ATM.  I'm about to whack it and reinstall a clean OS01:22
kmosssomeone on the #ubuntu-discuss just suggested i301:22
kmossoh, and I currently use cinnamon01:22
WoodyPCoh. on mint, 32 or 64 bit?01:22
kmoss64 bit01:23
WoodyPCI own a desktop repair shop and I offer a wide variety of Linux Distros with my systems, both used and new. What kind of things do you do on your puter?01:24
WoodyPClike: web surf, email...or Are you a Gamer?01:25
WoodyPCIn my opinion, If you want the best of Both worlds, Go with Ubuntu 64 bit.01:26
WoodyPCAnd if you use Windows programs, that you can't live without, Then open Software Center and install Wine and PlayOnLinux.01:27
WoodyPCAlso, Xubuntu is good too. It is, however, A HUGE install package.01:29
WoodyPCWhere is everybody?01:33
kmosssorry, was watching a video on i301:33
kmossI use Blender, which is ironic since I want to stop using a mouse...  haha01:34
WoodyPCit's ok, just was wondering if me and you are alone here?01:34
kmossbut I also do some programming, and light web surfing.01:34
kmossProbably.01:34
WoodyPCwhat lang of programming?01:34
kmossI actually need a windows dist to remote into work, so I use virtualbox01:35
WoodyPCgood one01:35
kmossjava at work, unfortunately, c/c++ at home01:35
kmossalso SQL, lots and lots of SQL01:35
WoodyPCyep, I remember the c/c++ days. The early days. Way back. lol01:36
kmossI prefer it01:36
WoodyPCNever done SQL, Looked at it, but never actually used it.01:36
kmossI can do some amazing things with it, unfortunately it's the least sellable skill on your resume01:37
WoodyPCSomehow, I fell into script writing. I'm not good at it yet, but I'm working on it.01:38
WoodyPCI heard that.01:38
kmossI'm actually done with programming though, I'm not sure what I want to do next, but I'm burned out with it01:38
WoodyPCOn my last resume, I may as well have left c/c++ off, because they didn't even ask me anything about it.01:39
kmossyeah, it's faster and more powerful, but unless you're doing embedded development, no one cares01:40
WoodyPCWhat area of Texas are you in? I am in the South South East.01:40
kmossATX01:41
WoodyPCIf that is what I think it is, Then monthly Team meetings would be a 5 hour drive for me.01:41
WoodyPChaha01:42
kmossyeah, Austin01:42
kmossI imagine you're near SpaceX's launch pad?01:42
WoodyPCYou know where Livingston is?01:42
WoodyPCI have a 48 acre farm there.01:43
kmossnope.  Never heard of it.01:43
kmossa little jelly of the land though, I have a house with .23 acres01:44
kmossyes, there is a decimal point before the number01:44
WoodyPC75 miles north of houston on hwy 59. If you blink, you'll miss it.01:44
kmossok, just looked it up, right by the trinity river, which is apparently a lake01:45
WoodyPCI see that01:45
kmossyou have an airport nearby though, so that's always good.01:45
WoodyPCThat's a private airport here, and anything bigger than a Cesna, can't land there.01:46
kmossthat's fine, I don't fly anything bigger than a cessna!01:47
kmoss:P01:47
WoodyPCYep. I don't fly anything other than a Specter. That's the name of my Hanglider with a motor on it.01:48
kmossNice!  I've actually wanted to get into hang gliding for years...  2004 at least.01:49
kmossSomehow I got distracted and got a PPL though instead...01:49
WoodyPCI'm redneck, Can't ya tell.01:49
WoodyPCAre you part of the Texas team or are you just browsing?01:50
kmossjust browsing01:51
kmosshopping on IRC to ask about window managers01:51
WoodyPCreally....Found any good ones?01:51
kmossnope.  The problem is ... there are so many to choose from, and no where (at least it seems to me) does anyone have a really good comparison01:53
WoodyPCgo to Google and in the search box, type compare linux windows managers and press enter.01:54
WoodyPCI suppose you are looking for one, for Linux, right?01:55
kmossI've done that, I don't get any GOOD results01:55
kmossyes01:55
WoodyPCgive me a sec and I will post a link for ya.01:55
kmosslots of people (Linux girl, spatry cup o linux, etc) have stuff, but I've just not found a good coherent comparison, highlighting the important features01:56
kmossthanks01:56
WoodyPChttp://www.techradar.com/us/news/software/operating-systems/10-of-the-best-linux-window-managers-90922301:59
kmossyeah, see, that's not really what I'm looking for...  I guess what I want to know is things like is it tileable?  how do I launch applications?  Create shortcuts?  Is there a menu system?  Switch windows/workspaces, etc.02:04
WoodyPCyou want a file manager?02:04
kmossI'd love to know what default file manager comes with said environment, yes.02:04
WoodyPCare you in your mint right now?02:05
kmossyep02:05
WoodyPCgo look at Xfe, PCManFM, Thunar. I have used Xfe before. If I was looking to change, it would be one of these. Small, but customizable.02:09
kmossok, I'll take a look at those.  I've got about 40 minutes of i3 videos to get through first02:10
WoodyPCnice to meet ya.02:11
kmosssame, thanks for your help!02:11
tiwakeoh hey, talking02:21
tiwakethat it looks like I just missed02:22
tiwakekmoss: yeah, XFCE is nice... I had it on my laptop and removed the 'windows open' thing, cause I just <alt><tab> to switch between windows/applications anyway02:42
kmosstiwake: so far, I'm really liking what I see about this i3 thing the other forum pointed out.02:45
tiwakei3 thing?02:46
tiwakealso, icecream <302:47
WoodyPChello tiwake02:51
* tiwake flails at WoodyPC 02:51
WoodyPCwhat happens on this channel? I just found it a little bit ago.02:52
tiwakeI just joined this channel like 3 days ago02:52
tiwakemaybe 202:52
tiwakeand I don't live in texas... lol02:52
tiwakelooking at moving to texas though02:53
WoodyPCtiwake: well02:53
WoodyPCYou a redneck?02:53
WoodyPClol02:53
tiwakeenh02:53
tiwakeI try to keep my neck-beard down02:53
WoodyPCi see02:53
tiwake:D02:54
tiwakeI machined my own 10/22 receiver though02:54
tiwakenot really redneck thing, but a fun project02:54
WoodyPCyeah, I bet. Wanna help me?02:55
tiwakehelp you what?02:55
WoodyPCGet this, I am building my own 410/20 gauge....02:56
tiwakeoh ok02:56
tiwakeI've been a machinist for about 10 years, I'm sure I could figure it out02:56
WoodyPCover and under barrels. 410 on top]02:56
tiwakeinteresting02:57
WoodyPCI am interedted in putting $1000.00 dollars into it.02:57
WoodyPCinterested02:57
tiwakeat the moment I don't have access to hardly any machines :-/02:58
tiwakeand am living in oregon02:58
tiwake(screw oregon)02:58
WoodyPCtiwake: Come to Texas then.02:58
WoodyPCIt's HOT here, but we have fun anyways.02:59
tiwakeI used to live in montana for 3 years... its alright, just not very supportive for my line of work (lack of industry in montana)03:00
tiwakelooking around for a job... not really sure what part of texas I want to move to03:01
WoodyPCIf you were/are serious about being a machinist, Do you have access to the machine to make the gun barrels?03:01
tiwake*sigh*03:01
tiwakethere are a few different ways to make a rifled barrel03:01
WoodyPCI am not a machinist, So I am going to have to hire someone to make it.03:02
tiwaketwo of them are the most popular, europe likes to use a huge a$$ hammer forge03:02
tiwakeand the american way is to drill out stock material and button form it03:02
tiwakeI toured lilja's facilities when I was in montana... it was pretty interesting actually03:03
WoodyPCAfterall, I want it right. And I don't know enough to make the barrels. I have the skills to make the stock.03:03
tiwakeyeah, I don't know much about shotguns really, or how shotgun barrels are typically made03:04
tiwakethe closest thing to barrel work I've done is I used a gun drill once03:05
WoodyPCWhat kind of work are you looking for? Machinist? or?03:05
tiwakeheh, alright, hold on03:05
WoodyPCholding...03:06
tiwakehttp://tiwake.com/Walter%20Neary%20resume%202016.pdf03:06
WoodyPCMind if I pass that on to a few of the machinists I know around Texas?03:08
tiwakeheh, I don't mind at all03:08
WoodyPCYou won't become a millionaire, but you will make a good living.03:09
tiwakewell, with my work history I was going to be a little picky about where I wanted to work... whereas in the past I just picked up the first thing that popped up03:10
kmossWoodyPC, you should look into the Houston Hackerspace03:10
tiwakeright now I'm just working a temp job here in oregon for minimum wage... lol03:11
WoodyPCWhat kind of salary would you expect?03:11
kmosstiwake: if you can do aerospace grade stuff, there would be a lot of jobs around Dallas, San Antonio, and Houston.03:11
WoodyPCyes there too.03:11
tiwakekmoss: I can do, well, pretty much anything... lol03:11
kmossYou might find a machining job around Austin, but ATX is more tech now than anything03:12
kmossWe have google, FB, Dell, Samsung, IBM, Qualcomm to name a few big ones03:12
tiwakeI've designed and built my own rocket engines...03:12
tiwakereally, any half-decent machinist should be able to do the same03:12
WoodyPCkmoss: If we find him a good paying job here, We are gonna have to teach him how-to be a redneck...lol03:13
tiwakeha03:13
tiwakethat probably won't be necessary03:13
WoodyPCthat was funny03:13
kmossstep 1: build your own gun.  Check.03:13
tiwakebut some touch-up in the redneck department would be good03:13
kmosstiwake, you like shiner bock?03:14
tiwakekmoss: yeah, if you didnt see, I made my own ruger 10/22 receiver from 4142 steel03:14
kmossit's the texas beer03:14
kmossI saw, I'm impressed.  I want to do an AR15 from steel one of these days.03:14
tiwakeah, no... and I don't really like most beers03:14
tiwakeXD03:14
kmossmostly because I saw someone else did it, and easier to show you, hold on03:15
tiwakeI do like vodka, moonshine, and other similar hard liqueurs03:15
tiwakedoing guns like the AR is difficult because of the magwell03:15
tiwakegood thing I know people with wire EDM machines :303:15
kmosshttps://www.gunsamerica.com/blog/steel-wood-ar-15-custom-case-colored-tar-15-rifle-from-turnbull-manufacturing-company/03:15
kmossbut I don't have $5k to drop on a rifle03:16
tiwakethough you cant really make money with a wire EDM machine from just cutting out magwells03:16
tiwakeI've heard stories from people who tried to do just that03:16
kmossWoodyPC: https://www.txrxlabs.org/tools/03:17
kmossthey should have all the tools you need03:17
tiwakeWoodyPC: with regard to what kind of salary I expect? honestly I have no idea03:18
kmossadvice #1, pick a skill and focus on that for work.03:18
kmossso if you're going machinist, do everything you can to make your resume good for that, if you're going IT admin, focus on that03:19
WoodyPCtiwake: only reason I asked is because most people I hire always ask for a certain amount and sometimes they actually get it.03:19
tiwakekmoss: probably my best skill is problem solving, with respect to machining/manufacturing03:20
kmossgot any semiconductor experience?03:22
tiwakeah, no, thats like the one thing I don't have any one... lol03:22
tiwakes/one/of03:22
tiwakecould probably figure it out though03:22
tiwakeengravers today are accurate enough to simply engrave out a pentium processor03:23
tiwakelol03:23
kmossunfortunately, without an A.S. as a tech, I probably couldn't get you a job at my fab03:24
kmossunless you were going IT...03:24
kmosswe're doing 14nm gates, I don't think an engraver can quite handle that... haha03:24
tiwakeyeah, no.. heh03:25
tiwakeguess I havent done any injection molding stuff either03:25
WoodyPCI have a couple of close business friends who are always looking for quality machinists. One is in San Antonio and the other is in Houston. The one in San Antonio, His starting salary is 50,000.00/year and the one in Houston, Her starting salary is 65,000.00/year. When hired by either one of them, You have to go through 30 days of paid probationary employment, so that they can see what you can do.03:27
tiwakeI bought some laser stuff to make my own SLS type rapid prototyping machine03:27
tiwakeWoodyPC: ooo shiny03:28
kmoss50k in SA isn't bad03:28
kmoss65k in Houston can be tough depending on where in Houston03:28
WoodyPCkmoss: it is in the NASA district.03:29
WoodyPCI don't recommend living in the district, because of cost-of-living.03:30
tiwakewhat about car emissions? how picky are they?03:30
WoodyPCtiwake: holy crap03:31
WoodyPCtiwake: just kidding03:31
tiwakeheh03:31
tiwakethere are only 4 spots that I know of that do emission testing... dalas/fort-worth, houston, and austin03:31
tiwakeand el paso, for whatever reason03:32
tiwakebut I'm not really sure how far each of those spots cover... and how picky they are03:32
WoodyPCtiwake: usually, if your car don't smoke or stink while driving, you can skate by.03:32
tiwakebuilt my car from scratch, and no way is it going to pass any kind of emission testing03:32
WoodyPCtiwake: really?03:33
tiwakeno catalytic converters03:33
tiwakewell, I say from scratch... not quite... I didnt machine the engine block or build the frame or anything03:34
kmossmy 98 civic with questionable cat passes austin's emissions03:35
tiwaketook a 1998 mustang and rebuilt everything, converted it to a mustang GT, and in the next months going to rebuild a 5.4L truck engine with awesome cams and heads and drop that in my car03:35
kmossso it should be fine03:35
tiwakeI'm pretty sure it won't pass XD03:35
tiwakeunless I hack the ECU to lie and say emissions are good03:35
kmossthis ain't california03:35
tiwakehold on03:36
tiwakepicture time03:36
tiwakehttp://tiwake.com/car%20project/DSCN0178.JPG03:37
tiwakethose are glass packs, and no cat. converters03:37
tiwakepretty sure I could put sparkers in my exhaust and have flames coming out03:38
WoodyPCwell, you can join me in that realm of existence. I drive a "New" looking and running, but old 1955 chevy pickup.03:38
tiwakehmm03:38
tiwakealright, well, I'll just not worry about it I guess... lol03:39
tiwakemaybe I'll call a muffler shop somewhere and ask them03:39
kmosseven if you moved to Austin, you'd be fine if you move to Round Rock or Georgetown or Hutto or anywhere around austin03:39
WoodyPCI don't have a pic on my computer, but I will get one on here and show yall what it looks like.03:39
kmossso there's that03:39
tiwakeoh yeah, live just outside the urban area03:40
tiwakeI guess that was one of my concerns03:43
tiwakeand why I was looking a little closer at lubbock, cause they don't have any emission testing XD03:44
tiwakelemme see if I have a picture of my receiver03:45
WoodyPCtiwake: Your contact info on your resume is current, right? I only ask because Claire or rather Mrs. Stevens is going to give you a call on Monday at lunch. Which is around the 1:00pm Central time here.03:45
tiwakeWoodyPC: yeah it is03:45
tiwakeWoodyPC: why? do you want me to move to texas that much?03:45
tiwakeyou hardly even know me03:46
tiwakelol03:46
WoodyPCtiwake: Please don't call her Claire, unless she tells you it is ok.03:46
tiwakewait03:47
WoodyPCtiwake: as for reason, I know how hard it is to find employment that will give you a life that is rewarding.03:47
tiwakeyou already told Mrs. Stevens about me and she wants to talk with me already?03:47
WoodyPCI help people find employment all the time.03:48
WoodyPCAnd yes, I gave her your resume. Relax, She wants to phone interview you. It is up to you to get the job.03:48
tiwakewhat is "the job"? lol03:49
WoodyPCShe told me to tell you that she is currently looking for a machinist and problem solving. And if you qualify, she willing to start you at 68,000.00/year. That is what she said to tell you.03:50
tiwakeo.003:51
tiwakewell uh03:51
tiwakespeechless03:51
kmosstiwake: if I was you I'd study the crap out of everything machining between now and monday03:51
kmoss:D03:51
tiwakekmoss: enh... machining is a mushy thing03:52
kmossdepends on where in the brinell scale you are at!03:53
WoodyPCTrust me, if she gives you a position, You will work your a$$ off, but you will enjoy the benefits. Insurance, everything after your 30 days is up.03:53
tiwakelike, for one run of parts you could tweak the speeds and feeds and depth of cut to be really fast, and everything is running good... then the next run (maybe a few weeks later or more) you run the same part with the same setting and tools are breaking03:53
tiwakeWoodyPC: like what? 10-12 hour days 5-6 days a week?03:54
tiwakecause I did that too03:54
tiwakelol03:54
tiwake...for a lot less :-/03:54
kmosswell, gents, it's bedtime for me03:54
tiwakeTTFN kmoss03:55
tiwakeoh wait03:55
* kmoss waiting 03:55
tiwakekmoss: I was going to find you a picture of the 10/22 receiver I made03:55
kmossoh nice03:55
kmossyeah I can wait a few03:55
WoodyPCtiwake: pretty good guess. Her top men work 10 hours a day 5 days a week and they always take the weekend off.03:55
tiwakekmoss: http://tiwake.com/IMG_0220.JPG03:57
tiwakethere is one picture03:57
tiwakeuh03:57
WoodyPC3 breaks a day. 2-30 minute and 1-1 hour.03:57
tiwakehttp://tiwake.com/IMG_0221.JPG03:57
kmossthat's pretty nice looking03:58
kmossnot as rounded on top as the ruger, but thats unimportant to the function03:59
tiwakewell sure, rouded like that as a fully machined part will be very difficult03:59
tiwakelol03:59
tiwakethere are quite a few differences03:59
kmosslooks like no back wall03:59
tiwakecause the 10/22 is designed to be a cast aluminum part03:59
tiwakeyeah, and no back wall03:59
tiwakecause thats all hidden anyway, inside the stock04:00
kmossthe barrel attachment looks a little different04:00
kmossbut still nice over all04:00
WoodyPCtiwake: I would hire you, but I can't offer you what they will.04:01
tiwakelol04:01
tiwakelemme see if I can find a picture of the voilin stand I made04:01
kmossok, bedtime for reals04:02
kmossnight all04:02
tiwakehttp://tiwake.com/IMG_4309.JPG04:03
tiwakemade that when I was going to college and taking violin lessons04:03
tiwakeno screws showing, and it breaks down by hand (no tools needed)04:04
WoodyPCtiwake: Hey one more thing, It seems I was right about these 2. You are going to get another call on Tuesday at lunch from Mr. Cord. He said to tell you that since you live there, he will telephone interview you as well.04:04
tiwakelol04:04
tiwakewhat kind of job are both looking to fill?04:05
tiwakeI don't even know what I'm going to be interviewed for04:05
tiwakethe kind of work, industry, or anything04:05
WoodyPCThese 2 must have been checking their email, cause all I did was email your resume to them, I didn't expect to here from them already.04:05
tiwakethen again, as a machinist, my resume is kinda shiny04:06
tiwakehmm04:06
WoodyPCHe said Machinist I and II, a Lead Foreman and a Lead problem solver. He has 6 retiring this year before summer is over.04:07
tiwakeits not too often you get a machinist who knows how to set up an email server, and knows what CMS is or how to set something up04:08
WoodyPCHe sent me an email with those things highlighted.04:08
tiwakedo you know what industry?04:09
tiwakeor is it a general shop?04:09
WoodyPCMostly they do Commercial work. Lots of things down around the main Ports.04:10
WoodyPCBig work, not too many small jobs.04:10
WoodyPCThey have a huge crew.04:10
WoodyPCAnd their equipment is all new or up-to-date.04:11
WoodyPCThese guys stay on top of their businesses.04:11
tiwakeI've never had a chance to work with shiny new equipment04:13
tiwaketillamook oregon is a black hole, because of the local government and really the state government too04:14
WoodyPCAlso, Mrs. Stevens, is extremely and sometimes brutally honest when speaking to you. Oh, and she is HOT!!!. Don't tell her I said that. lol04:15
tiwakeha04:15
tiwakethats fine04:15
WoodyPCShe would probably laugh and tell you something like: "yeah, yeah, yeah. It figures he would say that"....04:16
tiwakewhere "he" is WoodyPC? lol04:17
WoodyPCyep04:17
tiwake"oh yeah, me and WoodyPC were chatting about linux stuff and he decided to email you my resume..."04:17
tiwakesome people are weirded out by calling people out by their internet nickname, I've done it enough that it does not bother me04:18
WoodyPCyep and I expect she will call me after she talks to you, You know, if you tell her that I said she is "Hot"....lol04:19
tiwakelol04:19
tiwakewell, I'm probably the worst judge for that04:19
WoodyPCWell she knows my IRC name as well as my "real" name.04:20
tiwakeI've had one girlfriend for one year, thats the closest thing to girls I've gotten04:20
tiwakeno sex or kissing XD04:20
WoodyPCWell, Mrs. Stevens is NOT one of those "stay-in-the-office" bosses. She sweats just as much as her crew does. She is not afraid of work.04:21
tiwakethats cool04:22
tiwakenot that I specifically mind, either way04:22
WoodyPCI met her and her husband at a business seminar in Houston and we have been friends since. These 2 are what I like to call: "Down-to-Earth" people. They work hard all week and then play even harder on the weekends.04:24
tiwakeha04:24
WoodyPChell yeah04:24
tiwakemy idea of party is sitting in front of my computer listening to party music04:25
tiwaketake 2 shots of... something.. vodka, whiskey, moonshine... and get tired and hit the bed04:25
tiwakethats how hard I party04:25
tiwakelol04:25
tiwakeor like what I'm doing right now04:26
tiwakeget home from work and chat with freenode peoples04:26
WoodyPCHere's what's funny. They are executive level machinists during the work week and on the weekend it's jeans and t-shirts and booze.04:26
tiwakesounds typical04:27
tiwakeactually04:27
tiwakelol04:27
WoodyPCAnd I have a Computer business.04:27
tiwakeso I'm going to get a call on monday and tuesday?04:28
WoodyPCI often wonder how we became friends and then I remember our weekends is where we are more alike.04:28
tiwakemeh04:28
WoodyPCAnd yes...Lunch time on Monday and Tuesday.04:29
tiwakefriends don't have to have anything similar04:29
tiwakewell04:29
tiwaketexas is 2 hours ahead of me04:29
WoodyPCyeah, That's why I asked you if that would be fine with you. If not a good time to call, Tell me a better time and I will relay the message.04:30
tiwakeneh, they can call whenever04:30
tiwakejust as long as I'm at work04:30
WoodyPCok04:30
tiwakecause I don't get cellphone reception where I live04:30
WoodyPCgotcha04:31
tiwakethe only thing I'm slightly nervous about is "do you have mastercam/solidworks experience"04:31
tiwakewhile technically I do, I only used mastercam once and solidworks a handful of times04:32
tiwakenever had enough money to buy a copy of either04:32
WoodyPCuhm, I have CAD....Does that count?04:32
WoodyPClol04:32
tiwakewell04:33
tiwakethe only comeback I'd have is "I pick up on things really fast"04:33
tiwakewhich is true, I pick up on new things fairly quickly, because of how much I rely on my intuition04:34
WoodyPCyep. I gathered that. I don't really have that type of experience under my belt.04:34
tiwakethat type being... using intuition at work? or specifically solidworks?04:35
WoodyPCI am a PC specialist. I mostly build computers and install whatever the customer wants on it.04:35
tiwakewhat if I want a custom ERP server?04:36
tiwakethat ties into my accounting software04:36
tiwakeXD04:36
tiwakeyou know, the kind of project that requires 3 guys about a year to do properly04:37
tiwakebah, I feel bad now04:38
WoodyPCLet me tell you a secret, When it comes to a PC, If you can tell me what you want to be able to do, I can build it.04:38
tiwakeour entire conversation has been about me and what I can do :-/04:38
WoodyPCDoesn't matter to me what it is or how long it takes.04:38
WoodyPCActually, the first one I ever worked on was so big, it was house in a 2400 square foot office building.04:40
WoodyPChoused04:40
tiwakeshiny :D04:40
tiwake10G networking?04:40
WoodyPChaha...I meant "Back in the day" Sorry, my fault04:41
tiwakeI kind of want to build an ICF house with a couple of car lifts in the garage, and 10G networking in the walls04:41
tiwakemy own ideal modern castle04:42
WoodyPCThat one was one of the first corporate systems before outer networking was used.04:42
WoodyPCAnd when do you want to get started?04:42
WoodyPClol04:43
tiwakeuh04:43
tiwakewell04:43
tiwakeI don't have enough money to drive one way to texas04:43
tiwakeworking minimum wage right now, because thats tillamook life04:43
WoodyPCCan I tell you another secret?04:43
tiwakewhat?04:44
tiwake(sure heh)04:44
WoodyPCIf you empress either of these 2 employers and you want/get the job....They will help you re-locate...04:45
tiwakedo they care about personal background? like hobbies and stuff?04:45
tiwakelike for example, I was homeschooled, and taught myself how to program in Java and C04:47
WoodyPCThey might ask you about "hobbies/fun stuff/interests. But mostly they want to know you are for "real". They are looking for people to hire before the end of summer. They both have 2 big contracts about to start right at the end of summer this year.04:48
WoodyPCAnd I know they need to fill these positions.04:49
tiwakeheh, alright04:49
tiwakeI have done a lot of work for the oil industry04:49
WoodyPCThey wanted me to work for them, but I don't have that type of work experience.04:49
tiwakelol... thinking back on what I've done... which is pretty much everything04:50
tiwakein the machine shop04:50
WoodyPCThen Mr. Cord will like that.04:50
tiwakethe tuesday guy?04:51
WoodyPCyep04:51
WoodyPCAre you trying to size me up? I mean, Do you think I am crazy for sending your resume to a couple of employers already?04:52
tiwakeI'm dazed and trying to figure out what happened04:53
WoodyPCYou are right, we just met on the internet. However, I have helped a couple hundred people find jobs here in Texas and most of them, had never been to Texas before and now they have better lives than they even knew they could have.04:54
tiwakeand no, not crazy... I just didnt expect to be just randomly chatting with a guy on the internet "oh yeah, I'll email this"04:55
WoodyPCFinding good employment in the U.S. is a pain in the....you know what.04:55
tiwakethat is true04:56
tiwakeits kind of sad really04:56
WoodyPCWell, I only sent it to 2, so far. I looked over your resume and I just happen to know a few more I can give it to, If you don't mind?04:57
WoodyPCyes it is.04:57
tiwakeha, yeah, whoever XD04:57
WoodyPCNo guarantees or anything, but I would like to see you get a career that you can be proud of. That's all, no strings attached. You might say that is how I got into computers. Some stranger introduced me to the right people back in the early 90's and I have been there ever since.05:00
tiwakeI was going to see if I could get in a specific place... most companies who make their own product with a product evolution will have a production shop and a prototype/fixture/whatever else shop, to test things, build a few samples, etc.05:00
tiwakebuuuut, yeah05:01
WoodyPCWell both of these businesses, They get the plans and prints and they build it, Whatever it is.05:01
tiwakeyeah, thats typically the life of the machinist... get a print, don't know what its for really, and make it05:02
tiwakeI've done my share of that XD05:02
WoodyPCexactly05:03
tiwakeat DK precision I did a fair amount of consulting, like with performance archery gear05:04
WoodyPCI have seen some of the things they build and I stand there in "awe", because I don't understand how they did that, but it is cool as heck.05:04
tiwakeand had to modify his design05:04
tiwakeah yeah, there are some pretty crazy things sometimes05:05
WoodyPCHave you noticed that with the exception of me, you and kmoss, No one else have even logged in here. Makes me wonder where everyone is?05:06
tiwake<tiwake> thinking about moving to texas05:07
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tiwake<thebwt> nice tiwake, what's bringing that up?05:07
tiwakethat was like two days ago05:07
WoodyPCI mean, here we are on a ubuntu irc chat and me and you are discussing employment.05:09
WoodyPCnot that I mind.05:09
tiwakewelcome to IRC :D05:09
WoodyPCI'm just trying to help.05:09
tiwake<305:09
tiwakeif there is one thing I've done longer its IRC05:09
tiwakeits how I got good at typing05:10
WoodyPCyeah, I usually don't spend this much time on here. But tomorrow I am building 4 units for a group of teenage gamers and they want Ubuntu with Wine and PlayOnLinux installed on their new desktops.05:12
tiwakeooo05:12
WoodyPCOh, and Steam as well.05:12
tiwakeI do know a metallurgist in fort-worth, works for bell or something? helicopter company05:13
WoodyPCcool05:13
tiwakenever met the guy05:13
tiwakehe sent me some chunks of titanium to play with, scrap from his work place05:13
tiwakethats the only connection I have to texas05:14
WoodyPCcome on down, you're the next contestant on the Texas employment line. lol05:14
WoodyPConly kidding05:14
tiwakehehe05:14
WoodyPChope you get the job. one of them atleast.05:14
WoodyPCdid you actually get that pun?05:15
tiwake..?05:16
WoodyPCThe reference to the game show?05:16
tiwakeoh yeah05:16
tiwakeunless its a specific game show I don't know about05:16
WoodyPCyou're old enough to remember that one?05:16
WoodyPCThe Price Is Right....05:17
tiwakeyeah05:18
WoodyPCIt about a little after 10 your time and midnight mine.05:19
tiwakelol sorry05:19
tiwakethis channel is on my ZNC now05:20
WoodyPCI am an old fart...All nighters don't go well with me much anymore...So I am going to call it for me, tonight.05:20
tiwakehmm05:20
tiwakeWoodyPC: how old are you?05:20
WoodyPCguess05:20
WoodyPClol05:20
tiwake42?05:21
tiwake:D05:21
WoodyPCI'll give you a hint: between the number you guessed and 50.05:21
tiwakeoh I was close05:21
tiwakeclose enough for me05:22
WoodyPChigher than 45, but barely less than 5005:22
tiwakecan you guess how old I am?05:22
WoodyPCI told myself when I get to 50, every year after that I am going to go down in numbers, not up anymore.05:23
tiwakelike merlin... heh05:23
WoodyPCnope, cause if I am wayyyyyyyy off, it will make me feel bad.05:24
tiwakeheh, alright... 2905:24
WoodyPCsomewhere between 18 and 30.05:24
WoodyPCoh, i just saw that05:24
WoodyPCso you are a young one.05:25
WoodyPCnot married?05:25
WoodyPCno kids?05:25
tiwakenop, nothing05:25
WoodyPCAre ya looking?05:26
WoodyPClol05:26
tiwakeenh, kinda05:26
tiwakeneed money first, something I've never actually had05:26
WoodyPCyou know when you are growing up, The adults always tell you to seek and find the "right one"?05:27
tiwakeenh05:27
WoodyPCWell, what they mean is, finding a woman is simple...But finding one that you really want to spend all your time with, well that's a little harder.05:28
tiwakedoing things is easy05:28
tiwakedoing things correctly is quite a bit harder05:28
WoodyPCno kidding05:28
tiwakepeople want quick and fast05:28
tiwakeI want correct... in everything I do05:29
WoodyPCAfter 20 years of marriage, I can tell you, I would do it all again. I must have been one of the "lucky" ones.05:30
tiwakeI mentioned a house... the correct, least amount of maintenance is with insulated concrete form (ICF) walls. This is a bit more expensive and longer to build, but it will last for a very long time.05:31
tiwakesame thing for everything really, esp. marriage05:31
WoodyPCI was 28 when I met an Angel, that took me, Hook-Line-Sinker.05:31
tiwakelol05:31
tiwakemy grandparents were... hmm... I think 18 and 19 respectively05:32
tiwakeshe might have been 16 actually05:32
WoodyPCMy house is a 2 story wood frame, older model farm house. Thank god it is not red. lol]05:32
WoodyPCbut they grew old together, correct?05:33
tiwakebeen married for 60 something years, he died here recently05:33
WoodyPCmy condolences. Tell her your internet friend send many prayers her way.05:34
tiwakelol05:34
tiwakeshe has a lot of people praying for her, but more cant hurt05:34
WoodyPCnot that I am a solid hardcore bible person. I have read it. Didn't understand all of it, but I read it.05:35
WoodyPCNot in a hurry to go there either. I'm kind of addicted to breathing. lol05:36
tiwakethere is a reason why texas is the heart of the free world05:37
WoodyPCyou gathered that from our conversation?05:37
tiwakeuh, not really... is that an incorrect assessment?05:38
tiwakejust stories I've heard in-passing, put together in my little brain... heh05:39
WoodyPCI will admit that living here all my life and visiting other states, I haven't been anywhere that people re-act to strangers like we do here. And no, Your assessment is good.05:39
tiwakeand what made america great, and in my opinion, the beginning of the fall of america05:39
WoodyPCI have not been anywhere else where they treat strangers like friends.05:40
tiwakethe peak of america being 1972, the last trip to the moon05:41
tiwake*sigh*05:42
WoodyPCYeah, I wish Texas would secede from the United States and become their own Country once again. That is what I am waiting for. Hope it happens in my lifetime.05:42
WoodyPCcrossing my fingers05:42
tiwakehow can I miss something I've never experienced before, but only read about05:42
tiwakein ages past05:42
tiwakewhen things got done05:43
WoodyPCwhen people cared05:43
tiwakebefore statism was never heard of, or progressive liberals05:43
tiwakes/never/ever/05:43
WoodyPCbefore corporations took over and put small businesses out of business.05:44
tiwakehmm05:44
WoodyPCMy business struggles to stay alive in this corporate world.05:44
tiwakesome (a lot?) of that was from lawiers bending the legal system in a way it was never designed to go, and congress going along with it05:45
WoodyPCFamily based businesses have an uphill battle these days.05:45
WoodyPCyep05:45
tiwakewhat good are patents these days?05:46
tiwakeanswer? none.05:46
tiwakebecause of lawyers05:46
tiwakebah05:46
WoodyPCDid you say that you were homeschooled?05:46
tiwakeyeah, I was05:46
WoodyPCWell, Good for you, that is another thing in common. See, a friendship is occuring, right here and now....Cool huh. I woulda never thought.05:48
WoodyPCit05:48
tiwakeits texas05:48
WoodyPClol05:48
tiwakeas long as texas stands the free world has a chance05:48
WoodyPCWe just do things different than other states.05:49
WoodyPCAnd as they say: In Texas, everything is bigger. lol05:49
tiwakeI want to be a part of the country that my grandparents and great grandparents lived for, and in some cases died for.05:50
WoodyPCThat's just the way we like it here. the bigger, the better.05:50
WoodyPCyeah, I hope yours and mine come true.05:51
tiwakeback when you could walk into a store at the age of 16 and buy a stick of dynamite for your father who wants to remove an old tree stump05:51
tiwakenow I'm kind of rambling05:52
tiwake...it all started back in the 1930's05:52
WoodyPCWell, I never did that, but I used to go to the corner store and buy my grandpa a carton of Camel cigarettes every 2 weeks.05:52
tiwake1936, when the first gun laws and taxes were passed05:53
WoodyPCtry to send a kid to do that today and you get to go to jail for a while.05:53
tiwakeat least05:54
tiwake"oh you spank your kids too?" and your kids are taken away forever05:55
tiwakebecause the government knows best05:55
WoodyPCI want to know if it would be ok with you, If I were to actually call you on the phone, (not tonight), its too late for that tonight. But I am finding our conversation interesting and I talk better than I type. You know, say, this weekend, maybe?05:56
tiwakehah, sure... uh.. saturday might be booked for me... going to a friends house05:57
WoodyPCAnd to introduce myself: My name is Charles or Chuck is what my friends call me.05:57
WoodyPCThat's cool, Do you go to church?05:58
tiwakeyeah, I do...05:58
WoodyPCok05:58
tiwakeits a non-denominational church05:59
tiwakeuh05:59
WoodyPCHow about Sunday around 3 ish your time?05:59
WoodyPCthat will be 5 ish my time.05:59
tiwakesaturday morning might be fine too, will find out for sure friday05:59
tiwakesunday that time would be fine as well06:00
tiwakehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ozkl1OvNvEc06:01
WoodyPCokey dokey, sounds good06:01
WoodyPCyou ever heard of and astronaut by the name of Robert Crippin?06:02
tiwakehmm, no, cant say it rings ny bells06:02
WoodyPCjust a second06:02
tiwake*any06:02
WoodyPCGoogle Robert L Crippen....He is actually my cousin.06:04
tiwakeouch06:04
tiwakeborn in the dark ages of USA history06:05
WoodyPC in my 48 years on this planet, I have only talk and seen at the same time, twice.06:05
WoodyPCHe was always busy, busy, busy06:06
tiwakeoh ok, skylab missions06:07
tiwakewow yeah, thats kind of awesome actually06:07
tiwakebut never got much of a chance to actually talk?06:08
WoodyPCThe last time I talk to him, I asked him for an autographed photo of him in his astronaut suit. And he sent me one in a Sterling Silver frame. That's been 30 plus years ago.06:09
WoodyPCSounds weird don't it06:10
tiwakea little... heh..06:11
WoodyPCHe is the only family member that I don't really know much about, except what I read about him.06:11
tiwakewe have always had big family things, specifically christmas06:11
WoodyPCYeah, the rest of my family are all close. We get together as much as we can.06:12
tiwake~30 people typically06:12
WoodyPCYou go one of those BIG families, like mine. Those are the best in my book. Especially the close types.06:13
tiwakeyeah06:13
WoodyPCYou like to fish and camp?06:13
tiwakeah, actually, not really XD06:13
tiwakeI like to build things mostly06:13
WoodyPCWe do that a lot in the summer and fall part of the year.06:14
WoodyPCI get that about you.06:14
tiwakelike, when I lived in montana, I lived a 2 hour drive to yellowstone national park... never been there to this date06:14
WoodyPCI wouldn't worry about it too much. Have you read and/or seen the news about the park area lately.06:15
WoodyPC??06:16
tiwakeno06:16
WoodyPCcheck it out. They closed the park area recently because of some strange trembling going on under the park.06:17
tiwakeinteresting06:17
WoodyPCDon't know if it is still closed, but I know it was.06:17
tiwakewhen you have some time, you might enjoy watching this one hour thing on youtube (broken up into 4 parts), here is the first one https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZWJrvT9sTPk06:18
tiwake1954 disney06:18
WoodyPCI got a couple friends who live up there and they said that no one was allowed in during whatever this event was, that was going on.06:19
WoodyPCOh, You like Disney, do ya?06:19
tiwakethat specific thing I do06:19
tiwakereally gives you an idea what they were doing, before apollo but after WW206:20
WoodyPCOh come on, Tell me you didn't like "Cars"?06:20
tiwakethe movie cars?06:20
WoodyPCyeah, you know with mator.06:21
tiwakecars was a fantastic movie, but it was not disney, it was pixar... disney bought pixar sometime after the movie cars was made06:21
WoodyPCyep, they did.06:22
tiwakebrave was the first pixar movie that was under disney06:22
WoodyPCjust checking06:22
tiwakemmm06:23
WoodyPCoops, sorry, The "just checking" comment was for someone else over here and dummy me, type it, while I said it to them.06:23
tiwakethe only place that manufactures 80% or purer hydrogen peroxide is a company in texas06:24
WoodyPCYou like history, past, present and future, right?06:25
tiwakeyou can buy it in three different sizes... a 1 gallon "sample", a 40gal dewer, and a simi-truck load (I forget how many gallons, but a lot)06:25
tiwakewell... heh06:26
WoodyPCTechnology?06:26
WoodyPCGirls?06:26
WoodyPCHOT Girls?06:26
WoodyPCGood, so do I06:26
tiwakehonestly I only look at history mostly in the context of how to build stuff, or what went wrong with america06:27
WoodyPCI might be older, but I'm not blind.06:27
tiwakehehe06:27
tiwakeits cool, my dad takes care of old people for a living06:28
WoodyPCMy wife told me once that if she ever comes home and the babysitter is naked, I will be in a LOT of trouble.06:28
tiwakelol06:28
WoodyPCShe don't have anything to worry about. I know where home is and I also know what is waiting for me when I get home.06:29
tiwakehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0PLs7QuwzRc06:29
tiwakemakkon builds awesome music06:30
WoodyPCLots of sugars and sometimes, if I have been a good boy, We do that thing that grown-ups do.06:30
tiwakelol nice :D06:31
WoodyPCGet this, just as I was typing that, She rolled over and asked me if I was going to make friends all night OR was I going to come over there for some loving? Well, I have to tell ya that, That only occurs a couple times a week, so I think I am going to have to let ya go until tomorrow or later.06:34
tiwaketell her they are smexy internet friends though06:34
WoodyPClol06:34
tiwakewell06:34
tiwakeit is already tomorrow for you06:34
tiwakeso... *shrug*06:34
WoodyPCI have had a good time talking to ya. We'll do this again. soon.06:35
tiwakealright, as I said, I'm here cause ZNC <306:35
WoodyPChave goodnight, see ya later.06:35
tiwakecheers06:36
WoodyPCthat comes afterwards06:36
WoodyPCgoodnight06:36
thebwtwhoa, there was talking13:05
thebwtI'm in here during daylight time :p13:05
tedgThere should be more talking in here :-)13:19
tedgDid anyone propose talks for TXLF?13:19
tedg(anyone going?)13:20
* thebwt is13:27
thebwtis going rather13:28
thebwtmy co-workermy co-worker is giving a talk about the IUS project13:28
thebwt..13:28
* thebwt needs to finish his coffee before he interacts with other humans13:28
tiwakethebwt is talking anow13:33
tiwake*now13:33
thebwtyup13:33
tedgWhat is IUS?13:33
tiwakeI literally just woke up13:33
thebwta centos/rhel thing13:33
thebwthttps://ius.io/13:33
tedgAh, interesting. PPAs for RH :-)13:34
thebwtcort of? that's more like copr13:35
thebwtttps://copr.fedorainfracloud.org13:35
thebwthttps://copr.fedorainfracloud.org *13:35
thebwtbut similar , yes13:35
thebwta community repo13:35
thebwtIt'll be the first time i've gone since the first year13:38
tiwakethebwt: what part of texas do you live in?13:38
thebwtSA13:38
tiwakehow is it over there?13:38
thebwtweather is more dry than houston, even the intallian restraunts serve margaritas; can't complain.13:39
thebwtitallian *13:39
tiwakelol13:39
thebwtitalian**13:39
thebwtdownside of weechat: no spellcheck :/13:40
tiwakethats fine13:40
* thebwt probably just hasn't looked for it13:40
tiwakeread the first three letters, and don't notice misspelling13:40
tiwakeI've been IRCing for wayy too many years13:41
thebwtnice13:41
tiwakeI guess one of the jobs WoodyPC is trying to get me is in san antonio13:45
thebwtoh? with whom?13:45
tiwakeno idea... lol13:45
* thebwt should prolly scroll up13:45
tiwakeI don't even know what the position is, other than it involves machining13:45
thebwtnice!13:46
tiwakelooks like midnight and prior13:46
tiwakehttps://derpibooru.org/555856 KDE13:54
tiwakeheh13:54
thebwtnice14:13

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