[01:13] Howdy, y'all. Anyone online? [01:17] Hi WoodyPC [01:18] Hello, I just found yall on here, thought I'd see about you guys and gals. [01:18] What all do yall chat about here? [01:18] Hey, me too. [01:19] No idea. I'm trying to figure out what the best desktop environment for shortcut keys is. [01:19] Well I guess we all know that we are in Texas....lol [01:20] what are you using now? [01:21] your desktop version is? [01:21] haha, true [01:22] I'm using mint, ATM. I'm about to whack it and reinstall a clean OS [01:22] someone on the #ubuntu-discuss just suggested i3 [01:22] oh, and I currently use cinnamon [01:22] oh. on mint, 32 or 64 bit? [01:23] 64 bit [01:24] I own a desktop repair shop and I offer a wide variety of Linux Distros with my systems, both used and new. What kind of things do you do on your puter? [01:25] like: web surf, email...or Are you a Gamer? [01:26] In my opinion, If you want the best of Both worlds, Go with Ubuntu 64 bit. [01:27] And if you use Windows programs, that you can't live without, Then open Software Center and install Wine and PlayOnLinux. [01:29] Also, Xubuntu is good too. It is, however, A HUGE install package. [01:33] Where is everybody? [01:33] sorry, was watching a video on i3 [01:34] I use Blender, which is ironic since I want to stop using a mouse... haha [01:34] it's ok, just was wondering if me and you are alone here? [01:34] but I also do some programming, and light web surfing. [01:34] Probably. [01:34] what lang of programming? [01:35] I actually need a windows dist to remote into work, so I use virtualbox [01:35] good one [01:35] java at work, unfortunately, c/c++ at home [01:35] also SQL, lots and lots of SQL [01:36] yep, I remember the c/c++ days. The early days. Way back. lol [01:36] I prefer it [01:36] Never done SQL, Looked at it, but never actually used it. [01:37] I can do some amazing things with it, unfortunately it's the least sellable skill on your resume [01:38] Somehow, I fell into script writing. I'm not good at it yet, but I'm working on it. [01:38] I heard that. [01:38] I'm actually done with programming though, I'm not sure what I want to do next, but I'm burned out with it [01:39] On my last resume, I may as well have left c/c++ off, because they didn't even ask me anything about it. [01:40] yeah, it's faster and more powerful, but unless you're doing embedded development, no one cares [01:40] What area of Texas are you in? I am in the South South East. [01:41] ATX [01:41] If that is what I think it is, Then monthly Team meetings would be a 5 hour drive for me. [01:42] haha [01:42] yeah, Austin [01:42] I imagine you're near SpaceX's launch pad? [01:42] You know where Livingston is? [01:43] I have a 48 acre farm there. [01:43] nope. Never heard of it. [01:44] a little jelly of the land though, I have a house with .23 acres [01:44] yes, there is a decimal point before the number [01:44] 75 miles north of houston on hwy 59. If you blink, you'll miss it. [01:45] ok, just looked it up, right by the trinity river, which is apparently a lake [01:45] I see that [01:45] you have an airport nearby though, so that's always good. [01:46] That's a private airport here, and anything bigger than a Cesna, can't land there. [01:47] that's fine, I don't fly anything bigger than a cessna! [01:47] :P [01:48] Yep. I don't fly anything other than a Specter. That's the name of my Hanglider with a motor on it. [01:49] Nice! I've actually wanted to get into hang gliding for years... 2004 at least. [01:49] Somehow I got distracted and got a PPL though instead... [01:49] I'm redneck, Can't ya tell. [01:50] Are you part of the Texas team or are you just browsing? [01:51] just browsing [01:51] hopping on IRC to ask about window managers [01:51] really....Found any good ones? [01:53] nope. The problem is ... there are so many to choose from, and no where (at least it seems to me) does anyone have a really good comparison [01:54] go to Google and in the search box, type compare linux windows managers and press enter. [01:55] I suppose you are looking for one, for Linux, right? [01:55] I've done that, I don't get any GOOD results [01:55] yes [01:55] give me a sec and I will post a link for ya. [01:56] lots of people (Linux girl, spatry cup o linux, etc) have stuff, but I've just not found a good coherent comparison, highlighting the important features [01:56] thanks [01:59] http://www.techradar.com/us/news/software/operating-systems/10-of-the-best-linux-window-managers-909223 [02:04] yeah, see, that's not really what I'm looking for... I guess what I want to know is things like is it tileable? how do I launch applications? Create shortcuts? Is there a menu system? Switch windows/workspaces, etc. [02:04] you want a file manager? [02:04] I'd love to know what default file manager comes with said environment, yes. [02:05] are you in your mint right now? [02:05] yep [02:09] go look at Xfe, PCManFM, Thunar. I have used Xfe before. If I was looking to change, it would be one of these. Small, but customizable. [02:10] ok, I'll take a look at those. I've got about 40 minutes of i3 videos to get through first [02:11] nice to meet ya. [02:11] same, thanks for your help! [02:21] oh hey, talking [02:22] that it looks like I just missed [02:42] kmoss: yeah, XFCE is nice... I had it on my laptop and removed the 'windows open' thing, cause I just to switch between windows/applications anyway [02:45] tiwake: so far, I'm really liking what I see about this i3 thing the other forum pointed out. [02:46] i3 thing? [02:47] also, icecream <3 [02:51] hello tiwake [02:51] * tiwake flails at WoodyPC [02:52] what happens on this channel? I just found it a little bit ago. [02:52] I just joined this channel like 3 days ago [02:52] maybe 2 [02:52] and I don't live in texas... lol [02:53] looking at moving to texas though [02:53] tiwake: well [02:53] You a redneck? [02:53] lol [02:53] enh [02:53] I try to keep my neck-beard down [02:53] i see [02:54] :D [02:54] I machined my own 10/22 receiver though [02:54] not really redneck thing, but a fun project [02:55] yeah, I bet. Wanna help me? [02:55] help you what? [02:56] Get this, I am building my own 410/20 gauge.... [02:56] oh ok [02:56] I've been a machinist for about 10 years, I'm sure I could figure it out [02:56] over and under barrels. 410 on top] [02:57] interesting [02:57] I am interedted in putting $1000.00 dollars into it. [02:57] interested [02:58] at the moment I don't have access to hardly any machines :-/ [02:58] and am living in oregon [02:58] (screw oregon) [02:58] tiwake: Come to Texas then. [02:59] It's HOT here, but we have fun anyways. [03:00] I used to live in montana for 3 years... its alright, just not very supportive for my line of work (lack of industry in montana) [03:01] looking around for a job... not really sure what part of texas I want to move to [03:01] If you were/are serious about being a machinist, Do you have access to the machine to make the gun barrels? [03:01] *sigh* [03:01] there are a few different ways to make a rifled barrel [03:02] I am not a machinist, So I am going to have to hire someone to make it. [03:02] two of them are the most popular, europe likes to use a huge a$$ hammer forge [03:02] and the american way is to drill out stock material and button form it [03:03] I toured lilja's facilities when I was in montana... it was pretty interesting actually [03:03] Afterall, I want it right. And I don't know enough to make the barrels. I have the skills to make the stock. [03:04] yeah, I don't know much about shotguns really, or how shotgun barrels are typically made [03:05] the closest thing to barrel work I've done is I used a gun drill once [03:05] What kind of work are you looking for? Machinist? or? [03:05] heh, alright, hold on [03:06] holding... [03:06] http://tiwake.com/Walter%20Neary%20resume%202016.pdf [03:08] Mind if I pass that on to a few of the machinists I know around Texas? [03:08] heh, I don't mind at all [03:09] You won't become a millionaire, but you will make a good living. [03:10] well, with my work history I was going to be a little picky about where I wanted to work... whereas in the past I just picked up the first thing that popped up [03:10] WoodyPC, you should look into the Houston Hackerspace [03:11] right now I'm just working a temp job here in oregon for minimum wage... lol [03:11] What kind of salary would you expect? [03:11] tiwake: if you can do aerospace grade stuff, there would be a lot of jobs around Dallas, San Antonio, and Houston. [03:11] yes there too. [03:11] kmoss: I can do, well, pretty much anything... lol [03:12] You might find a machining job around Austin, but ATX is more tech now than anything [03:12] We have google, FB, Dell, Samsung, IBM, Qualcomm to name a few big ones [03:12] I've designed and built my own rocket engines... [03:12] really, any half-decent machinist should be able to do the same [03:13] kmoss: If we find him a good paying job here, We are gonna have to teach him how-to be a redneck...lol [03:13] ha [03:13] that probably won't be necessary [03:13] that was funny [03:13] step 1: build your own gun. Check. [03:13] but some touch-up in the redneck department would be good [03:14] tiwake, you like shiner bock? [03:14] kmoss: yeah, if you didnt see, I made my own ruger 10/22 receiver from 4142 steel [03:14] it's the texas beer [03:14] I saw, I'm impressed. I want to do an AR15 from steel one of these days. [03:14] ah, no... and I don't really like most beers [03:14] XD [03:15] mostly because I saw someone else did it, and easier to show you, hold on [03:15] I do like vodka, moonshine, and other similar hard liqueurs [03:15] doing guns like the AR is difficult because of the magwell [03:15] good thing I know people with wire EDM machines :3 [03:15] https://www.gunsamerica.com/blog/steel-wood-ar-15-custom-case-colored-tar-15-rifle-from-turnbull-manufacturing-company/ [03:16] but I don't have $5k to drop on a rifle [03:16] though you cant really make money with a wire EDM machine from just cutting out magwells [03:16] I've heard stories from people who tried to do just that [03:17] WoodyPC: https://www.txrxlabs.org/tools/ [03:17] they should have all the tools you need [03:18] WoodyPC: with regard to what kind of salary I expect? honestly I have no idea [03:18] advice #1, pick a skill and focus on that for work. [03:19] so if you're going machinist, do everything you can to make your resume good for that, if you're going IT admin, focus on that [03:19] tiwake: only reason I asked is because most people I hire always ask for a certain amount and sometimes they actually get it. [03:20] kmoss: probably my best skill is problem solving, with respect to machining/manufacturing [03:22] got any semiconductor experience? [03:22] ah, no, thats like the one thing I don't have any one... lol [03:22] s/one/of [03:22] could probably figure it out though [03:23] engravers today are accurate enough to simply engrave out a pentium processor [03:23] lol [03:24] unfortunately, without an A.S. as a tech, I probably couldn't get you a job at my fab [03:24] unless you were going IT... [03:24] we're doing 14nm gates, I don't think an engraver can quite handle that... haha [03:25] yeah, no.. heh [03:25] guess I havent done any injection molding stuff either [03:27] I have a couple of close business friends who are always looking for quality machinists. One is in San Antonio and the other is in Houston. The one in San Antonio, His starting salary is 50,000.00/year and the one in Houston, Her starting salary is 65,000.00/year. When hired by either one of them, You have to go through 30 days of paid probationary employment, so that they can see what you can do. [03:27] I bought some laser stuff to make my own SLS type rapid prototyping machine [03:28] WoodyPC: ooo shiny [03:28] 50k in SA isn't bad [03:28] 65k in Houston can be tough depending on where in Houston [03:29] kmoss: it is in the NASA district. [03:30] I don't recommend living in the district, because of cost-of-living. [03:30] what about car emissions? how picky are they? [03:31] tiwake: holy crap [03:31] tiwake: just kidding [03:31] heh [03:31] there are only 4 spots that I know of that do emission testing... dalas/fort-worth, houston, and austin [03:32] and el paso, for whatever reason [03:32] but I'm not really sure how far each of those spots cover... and how picky they are [03:32] tiwake: usually, if your car don't smoke or stink while driving, you can skate by. [03:32] built my car from scratch, and no way is it going to pass any kind of emission testing [03:33] tiwake: really? [03:33] no catalytic converters [03:34] well, I say from scratch... not quite... I didnt machine the engine block or build the frame or anything [03:35] my 98 civic with questionable cat passes austin's emissions [03:35] took a 1998 mustang and rebuilt everything, converted it to a mustang GT, and in the next months going to rebuild a 5.4L truck engine with awesome cams and heads and drop that in my car [03:35] so it should be fine [03:35] I'm pretty sure it won't pass XD [03:35] unless I hack the ECU to lie and say emissions are good [03:35] this ain't california [03:36] hold on [03:36] picture time [03:37] http://tiwake.com/car%20project/DSCN0178.JPG [03:37] those are glass packs, and no cat. converters [03:38] pretty sure I could put sparkers in my exhaust and have flames coming out [03:38] well, you can join me in that realm of existence. I drive a "New" looking and running, but old 1955 chevy pickup. [03:38] hmm [03:39] alright, well, I'll just not worry about it I guess... lol [03:39] maybe I'll call a muffler shop somewhere and ask them [03:39] even if you moved to Austin, you'd be fine if you move to Round Rock or Georgetown or Hutto or anywhere around austin [03:39] I don't have a pic on my computer, but I will get one on here and show yall what it looks like. [03:39] so there's that [03:40] oh yeah, live just outside the urban area [03:43] I guess that was one of my concerns [03:44] and why I was looking a little closer at lubbock, cause they don't have any emission testing XD [03:45] lemme see if I have a picture of my receiver [03:45] tiwake: Your contact info on your resume is current, right? I only ask because Claire or rather Mrs. Stevens is going to give you a call on Monday at lunch. Which is around the 1:00pm Central time here. [03:45] WoodyPC: yeah it is [03:45] WoodyPC: why? do you want me to move to texas that much? [03:46] you hardly even know me [03:46] lol [03:46] tiwake: Please don't call her Claire, unless she tells you it is ok. [03:47] wait [03:47] tiwake: as for reason, I know how hard it is to find employment that will give you a life that is rewarding. [03:47] you already told Mrs. Stevens about me and she wants to talk with me already? [03:48] I help people find employment all the time. [03:48] And yes, I gave her your resume. Relax, She wants to phone interview you. It is up to you to get the job. [03:49] what is "the job"? lol [03:50] She told me to tell you that she is currently looking for a machinist and problem solving. And if you qualify, she willing to start you at 68,000.00/year. That is what she said to tell you. [03:51] o.0 [03:51] well uh [03:51] speechless [03:51] tiwake: if I was you I'd study the crap out of everything machining between now and monday [03:51] :D [03:52] kmoss: enh... machining is a mushy thing [03:53] depends on where in the brinell scale you are at! [03:53] Trust me, if she gives you a position, You will work your a$$ off, but you will enjoy the benefits. Insurance, everything after your 30 days is up. [03:53] like, for one run of parts you could tweak the speeds and feeds and depth of cut to be really fast, and everything is running good... then the next run (maybe a few weeks later or more) you run the same part with the same setting and tools are breaking [03:54] WoodyPC: like what? 10-12 hour days 5-6 days a week? [03:54] cause I did that too [03:54] lol [03:54] ...for a lot less :-/ [03:54] well, gents, it's bedtime for me [03:55] TTFN kmoss [03:55] oh wait [03:55] * kmoss waiting [03:55] kmoss: I was going to find you a picture of the 10/22 receiver I made [03:55] oh nice [03:55] yeah I can wait a few [03:55] tiwake: pretty good guess. Her top men work 10 hours a day 5 days a week and they always take the weekend off. [03:57] kmoss: http://tiwake.com/IMG_0220.JPG [03:57] there is one picture [03:57] uh [03:57] 3 breaks a day. 2-30 minute and 1-1 hour. [03:57] http://tiwake.com/IMG_0221.JPG [03:58] that's pretty nice looking [03:59] not as rounded on top as the ruger, but thats unimportant to the function [03:59] well sure, rouded like that as a fully machined part will be very difficult [03:59] lol [03:59] there are quite a few differences [03:59] looks like no back wall [03:59] cause the 10/22 is designed to be a cast aluminum part [03:59] yeah, and no back wall [04:00] cause thats all hidden anyway, inside the stock [04:00] the barrel attachment looks a little different [04:00] but still nice over all [04:01] tiwake: I would hire you, but I can't offer you what they will. [04:01] lol [04:01] lemme see if I can find a picture of the voilin stand I made [04:02] ok, bedtime for reals [04:02] night all [04:03] http://tiwake.com/IMG_4309.JPG [04:03] made that when I was going to college and taking violin lessons [04:04] no screws showing, and it breaks down by hand (no tools needed) [04:04] tiwake: Hey one more thing, It seems I was right about these 2. You are going to get another call on Tuesday at lunch from Mr. Cord. He said to tell you that since you live there, he will telephone interview you as well. [04:04] lol [04:05] what kind of job are both looking to fill? [04:05] I don't even know what I'm going to be interviewed for [04:05] the kind of work, industry, or anything [04:05] These 2 must have been checking their email, cause all I did was email your resume to them, I didn't expect to here from them already. [04:06] then again, as a machinist, my resume is kinda shiny [04:06] hmm [04:07] He said Machinist I and II, a Lead Foreman and a Lead problem solver. He has 6 retiring this year before summer is over. [04:08] its not too often you get a machinist who knows how to set up an email server, and knows what CMS is or how to set something up [04:08] He sent me an email with those things highlighted. [04:09] do you know what industry? [04:09] or is it a general shop? [04:10] Mostly they do Commercial work. Lots of things down around the main Ports. [04:10] Big work, not too many small jobs. [04:10] They have a huge crew. [04:11] And their equipment is all new or up-to-date. [04:11] These guys stay on top of their businesses. [04:13] I've never had a chance to work with shiny new equipment [04:14] tillamook oregon is a black hole, because of the local government and really the state government too [04:15] Also, Mrs. Stevens, is extremely and sometimes brutally honest when speaking to you. Oh, and she is HOT!!!. Don't tell her I said that. lol [04:15] ha [04:15] thats fine [04:16] She would probably laugh and tell you something like: "yeah, yeah, yeah. It figures he would say that".... [04:17] where "he" is WoodyPC? lol [04:17] yep [04:17] "oh yeah, me and WoodyPC were chatting about linux stuff and he decided to email you my resume..." [04:18] some people are weirded out by calling people out by their internet nickname, I've done it enough that it does not bother me [04:19] yep and I expect she will call me after she talks to you, You know, if you tell her that I said she is "Hot"....lol [04:19] lol [04:19] well, I'm probably the worst judge for that [04:20] Well she knows my IRC name as well as my "real" name. [04:20] I've had one girlfriend for one year, thats the closest thing to girls I've gotten [04:20] no sex or kissing XD [04:21] Well, Mrs. Stevens is NOT one of those "stay-in-the-office" bosses. She sweats just as much as her crew does. She is not afraid of work. [04:22] thats cool [04:22] not that I specifically mind, either way [04:24] I met her and her husband at a business seminar in Houston and we have been friends since. These 2 are what I like to call: "Down-to-Earth" people. They work hard all week and then play even harder on the weekends. [04:24] ha [04:24] hell yeah [04:25] my idea of party is sitting in front of my computer listening to party music [04:25] take 2 shots of... something.. vodka, whiskey, moonshine... and get tired and hit the bed [04:25] thats how hard I party [04:25] lol [04:26] or like what I'm doing right now [04:26] get home from work and chat with freenode peoples [04:26] Here's what's funny. They are executive level machinists during the work week and on the weekend it's jeans and t-shirts and booze. [04:27] sounds typical [04:27] actually [04:27] lol [04:27] And I have a Computer business. [04:28] so I'm going to get a call on monday and tuesday? [04:28] I often wonder how we became friends and then I remember our weekends is where we are more alike. [04:28] meh [04:29] And yes...Lunch time on Monday and Tuesday. [04:29] friends don't have to have anything similar [04:29] well [04:29] texas is 2 hours ahead of me [04:30] yeah, That's why I asked you if that would be fine with you. If not a good time to call, Tell me a better time and I will relay the message. [04:30] neh, they can call whenever [04:30] just as long as I'm at work [04:30] ok [04:30] cause I don't get cellphone reception where I live [04:31] gotcha [04:31] the only thing I'm slightly nervous about is "do you have mastercam/solidworks experience" [04:32] while technically I do, I only used mastercam once and solidworks a handful of times [04:32] never had enough money to buy a copy of either [04:32] uhm, I have CAD....Does that count? [04:32] lol [04:33] well [04:33] the only comeback I'd have is "I pick up on things really fast" [04:34] which is true, I pick up on new things fairly quickly, because of how much I rely on my intuition [04:34] yep. I gathered that. I don't really have that type of experience under my belt. [04:35] that type being... using intuition at work? or specifically solidworks? [04:35] I am a PC specialist. I mostly build computers and install whatever the customer wants on it. [04:36] what if I want a custom ERP server? [04:36] that ties into my accounting software [04:36] XD [04:37] you know, the kind of project that requires 3 guys about a year to do properly [04:38] bah, I feel bad now [04:38] Let me tell you a secret, When it comes to a PC, If you can tell me what you want to be able to do, I can build it. [04:38] our entire conversation has been about me and what I can do :-/ [04:38] Doesn't matter to me what it is or how long it takes. [04:40] Actually, the first one I ever worked on was so big, it was house in a 2400 square foot office building. [04:40] housed [04:40] shiny :D [04:40] 10G networking? [04:41] haha...I meant "Back in the day" Sorry, my fault [04:41] I kind of want to build an ICF house with a couple of car lifts in the garage, and 10G networking in the walls [04:42] my own ideal modern castle [04:42] That one was one of the first corporate systems before outer networking was used. [04:42] And when do you want to get started? [04:43] lol [04:43] uh [04:43] well [04:43] I don't have enough money to drive one way to texas [04:43] working minimum wage right now, because thats tillamook life [04:43] Can I tell you another secret? [04:44] what? [04:44] (sure heh) [04:45] If you empress either of these 2 employers and you want/get the job....They will help you re-locate... [04:45] do they care about personal background? like hobbies and stuff? [04:47] like for example, I was homeschooled, and taught myself how to program in Java and C [04:48] They might ask you about "hobbies/fun stuff/interests. But mostly they want to know you are for "real". They are looking for people to hire before the end of summer. They both have 2 big contracts about to start right at the end of summer this year. [04:49] And I know they need to fill these positions. [04:49] heh, alright [04:49] I have done a lot of work for the oil industry [04:49] They wanted me to work for them, but I don't have that type of work experience. [04:50] lol... thinking back on what I've done... which is pretty much everything [04:50] in the machine shop [04:50] Then Mr. Cord will like that. [04:51] the tuesday guy? [04:51] yep [04:52]