[00:00] <squinty> piper25,  yes.  persistance is for storage.
[00:01] <piper25> i know that persitance is for storage squinty but is the startup menu supposed to look exactly the save as usb live CD? your saying click try ubuntu each time for bootup?
[00:01] <squinty> piper25,  you can do upgrades on a usb with persistence (except for kernel upgrades) the new files etc will be saved/used with the persistence storage file
[00:02] <piper25> if i install a program does that automatically save it squinty or do i need to save it in a special spot?
[00:02] <piper25> or do something special?
[00:02] <squinty> piper25,  if you want a usb with the ability to upgrade kernels, then you could do a full regular install to the usb stick itself
[00:03] <squinty> piper25, it will use the persistence file to save it
[00:04] <piper25> squinty is the process to do a full regular install on usb complicated. I tried doing that with the install feature but I didnt see an option to be it on the usb drive.
[00:04] <piper25> put it I mean
[00:04] <piper25> it looked it was going to install on laptop hard drive
[00:04] <piper25> like
[00:05] <squinty> piper25,  you will need two usb sticks; one for the iso itself and another to install to (usb acts like ssd or harddrive)
[00:05] <piper25> squinty can i use live cd on one and intall on usb?
[00:05] <squinty> piper25,  yes
[00:06] <squinty> piper25,  just pay special attention to where grub is going to be installed.  it will be needed on the usb stick you are doing the full install to.
[00:07] <Tex_Nick> 16.04 unity & fallback DE ... i can no longer resize the nautilus window by grabbing the window borders/edges ... i have to ALT+Right-Click the title bar then select resize ... anyone else experience that ?
[00:07] <piper25> squitny i tried that way but it didnt see where is was going to recognize the usb as an option to download to it...it looked like it was going to install on laptop hard drive.
[00:08] <shinhg> Tex_Nick: try " compiz --replace & " in a terminal
[00:08] <squinty> piper25,  in the partitioning section, there is a toggle on the upper right hand side of the screen which you can change to the usb stick you want to install on
[00:08] <piper25> squinty does the option to install ubuntu on usb come after i click install?? I was afraid to hit that because i thought it was going to install on usb.
[00:09] <piper25> on hard drive i mean
[00:09] <piper25> the partitioning section comes after you click install?
[00:09] <squinty> piper25,  hmmm...might have to select "something else"
[00:10] <piper25> when does the partitioning section come into? i remember a section that asked about encryption and using 3rd party software and then a click install button.
[00:10] <squinty> piper25,  from the main iso menu you mean?  if yes, then yes
[00:11] <piper25> but i dont remember seeing an option about where to install it too
[00:11] <squinty> piper25,  why not just try it and see for yourself?
[00:11] <piper25> squinty well i could do a backup on my laptop hard drive but if i click install and it goes on laptop hardrive it will wipe the hard drive
[00:13] <squinty> piper25, backups!  remove the hard drive for the period of installation.  or just pay very close attention to what you are doing
[00:14] <piper25> thanks for you help squinty
[00:16] <heap_> hi.. can i somehow boot from grub if there is
[00:16] <heap_> grub> ls
[00:16] <heap_> (hd0) (hd0,msdos5) (hd0,msdos1) (cd0) (cd0,msdos5) (cd0,msdos1) (host)
[00:17] <Tex_Nick> shinhg: that caused all 3 monitors to flicker, terminal seemed to hang on command, had to CTRL+C ... still can't resize by grabbing window edges
[00:17] <squinty> heap:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2/Troubleshooting
[00:18] <heap_> squinty: too much :<
[00:19] <squinty> heap_,  to much what?
[00:19] <heap_> squinty: information
[00:19] <squinty> heap_,  your choice
[00:25] <Bashing-om> heap_: More .... http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1594052 .
[00:27] <heap_> ok ill take a look
[00:28] <rhorse> heap_: you can always boot from grub...
[00:28] <rhorse> if the kernel is bootable...
[00:30] <rn10950> Hi, I just installed 16.04 LTS and I am currently trying to install KDE. There was a conflict with account-plugin-google and Apt won't let me add or remove any other package until I run "apt-get -f install". I try to run that command, and it just stops with an error and tells me to run the command again. What should I do?
[00:30] <heap_> i installed it inside bhyve so no idea whats wrong
[00:33] <Bashing-om> rn10950: Try disaabling the google PPA .. I sen to recall that presently Google repo has problems .
[00:33] <rn10950> Bashing-om: OK
[00:36] <rn10950> Bashing-om: I don't seem to have that enabled
[00:36] <rn10950> I think it's a GNOME/KDE conflict
[00:38] <Bashing-om> rn10950: ' sudo apt update 2>&1 | nc termbin.com 9999 ; sudo apt upgrade 2>&1 | nc termbin.com 9999 ' so we get the error in context .
[00:38] <OerHeks> known issue with that account-plugin-google + kubuntu + unity
[00:39] <OerHeks> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/account-plugins/+bug/1574045
[00:39] <Bashing-om> OerHeks: rn10950 ^^ Thanks !
[00:40] <OerHeks> and https://bugs.launchpad.net/kubuntu-ppa/+bug/1451728
[00:40] <rn10950> OerHeks, Bashing-om: I guess I will have to wait for a patch
[00:41] <rn10950> (interestingly enough, I have Unity installed first, then I am installing KDE, this guy had it the other way around)
[00:41] <Bashing-om> rn10950: Agreed, see what the big boys come up with .
[00:41] <squinty> ....and gals
[00:41] <OerHeks> I would stop mixing desktops, and install them side-by-side
[00:41] <rn10950> I wonder if MATE will install w/o an issue, Unity is really getting to me
[00:42] <rn10950> OerHeks: what do you mean by that>
[00:42] <rn10950> ?
[00:43] <OerHeks> make free space for a fresh install of any 2nd desktop
[00:43] <OerHeks> that is side-by-side
[00:43] <squinty> OerHeks, rn10950  +1
[00:43] <rn10950> OerHeks: yeah, I can't do that on this machine, it's a dual boot with Windows and the NTFS partition is almost full
[00:44] <OerHeks> no hassle with bootscreens ans such, and these small symlinks errors
[00:44] <linuxuser> .
[00:44] <linuxuser> .
[00:44] <linuxuser> .
[00:45] <rn10950> Can you guys at least point me in the right direction in fixing APT so I can use it again?
[00:46] <Q_Continuum> Any (known) issues if I try to make and install Server from a USB stick?  (Does it work the same as a desktop install?)
[00:47] <Bashing-om> rn10950: Sure I will try : ' ' sudo apt update 2>&1 | nc termbin.com 9999 ; sudo apt upgrade 2>&1 | nc termbin.com 9999 ' so we get the error in context .
[00:47] <rn10950> Bashing-om: http://termbin.com/oxfd and http://termbin.com/5mmj
[00:47] <Bashing-om> rn10950: K .. Be back soonest .
[00:49] <OerHeks> rn10950, one fix is this, temporarily .. http://askubuntu.com/a/663301/64683
[00:49] <OerHeks> Q_Continuum, that will work, sure
[00:50] <tulip> hello
[00:50] <Q_Continuum> OerHeks: Thanks!  Didn't want to have to waste a (scavenged-for) empty CD if I didn't have to.  (Been running CentOS for work; standing up a little Ubuntu box to run my new Ubiquiti UniFi AP controller, among other things)
[00:50] <rn10950> OerHeks: http://termbin.com/jb2u
[00:50] <Bashing-om> rn10950: ' sudo apt remove kde-telepathy-minimal ' .
[00:51] <rn10950> Bashing-om: same error
[00:52] <OerHeks> rn10950, i hoped that fix worked :-(
[00:52] <fallencl0ud> hello hello everyone o/
[00:52] <OerHeks> rn10950,  you just need 20 gb or so for an extra desktop
[00:52] <Bashing-om> rn10950: Ouch .. ' apt-cache policy kde-config-telepathy-accounts ' Let's see where this leads to .
[00:53] <fallencl0ud> ...tfw you answer your own question just before you ask it.
[00:53] <Q_Continuum> fallencl0ud: Better than just after!  (But if you ever do that, always share the answer...)
[00:53] <Q_Continuum> fallencl0ud: That's my usual way - ask the question THEN find the answer 10-90 seconds later...
[00:54] <rn10950> Bashing-om, OerHeks: the good thing about this is that if this leads nowhere, this is a new install and I can always trash it as a last resort
[00:54] <skjones> i notice i'm receiving "OS Updates" in the Ubuntu Software App.  Are these different from the normal updates received in the "Software Updater"?
[00:54] <OerHeks> skjones, no, they are from the same source.
[00:54] <Q_Continuum> skjones: Two interfaces, same updates.
[00:55] <ramrebol> Hi. I have the following problem in my ubuntu 16.04. I can launch paraview (a plot program installed from ubuntu soft), but if I write '> paraview' in the terminal appears: /usr/lib/paraview/paraview: symbol lookup error: /usr/lib/libmpi_cxx.so.1: undefined symbol: ompi_mpi_real . But the command '> sudo paraview' run without problems. How can I run paraview from terminal?
[00:55] <fallencl0ud> my question was going to be "what's the best way to transfer a fair amount of data from one computer to another" thinking some network share bs but a USB 3.0 flash drive would work perfectly
[00:55] <Q_Continuum> fallencl0ud: Whichever is easier :-D
[00:55] <andres_> hola
[00:55] <andres_> alguien que hable mex
[00:56] <skjones> thanks OerHeks & Q_Continuum
[00:56] <fallencl0ud> I could just throw my laptop's hard drive into a USB box and transfer the data that way but Windows won't read ext4
[00:56] <squinty> !sp
[00:56] <Q_Continuum> fallencl0ud: Not by default...
[00:56] <rn10950> fallencl0ud: diskinternals has a ext4 reader
[00:56] <fallencl0ud> I could boot my desktop into Ubuntu but that's always painful unfortunately
[00:57] <fallencl0ud> for whatever reason Ubuntu does not like my desktop ootb
[00:57] <Q_Continuum> http://www.paragon-software.com/home/extfs-windows/ is the first one from a name I recog in a quick search.
[00:57] <squinty> fallencl0ud,  winscp  freebie
[00:57] <fallencl0ud> I have a 32G flash drive I an use
[00:57] <fallencl0ud> can*
[00:58] <squinty> fallencl0ud,  time to copy to usb stick and then time to transfer from usb stick to other computer.  winscp copies time in at least half
[00:59] <fallencl0ud> squinty: it'd be going over wifi both ways
[01:02] <fallencl0ud> and then I realize that all the data I want to transfer is more than 32GB...
[01:02] <fallencl0ud> looks like I'm doing this in batches
[01:02] <OerHeks> zip it in chunks of 30 gb
[01:02] <OerHeks> or share a folder?
[01:03] <OerHeks> click on folder, right mouse, local network share .... it will ask then for some details, and packages to install
[01:08] <NoCode> Hi using Ubuntu 14.04, I haven't been able to get a vhost working *at all*. I've followed 3-4 tutorials, looked at httpd.conf pages for apache and just *can't get it working. Do I enable anything on my VPS to get a vhost working? It feels as though I need to. Any help would be appreciated. :(
[01:09] <OerHeks> rental VPS are heavily tweaked, NoCode ..
[01:09] <fundies> I upgraded my sisters laptop and now no network paters appear execpt lo. How do i fix it?
[01:10] <fundies> adapters*
[01:11] <nchambers> fundies, make sure the card is turned on and that it has drivers?
[01:11] <OerHeks> NoCode, for DO digital ocean, this tutor works.. https://www.digitalocean.com/community/tutorials/how-to-set-up-apache-virtual-hosts-on-ubuntu-14-04-lts
[01:11] <fundies> nchambers, kinda hard to do w/o internet
[01:11] <fundies> it worked fine before upgrade
[01:11] <NoCode> OerHeks, I've followed it, and a couple others, and I can't get it working.
[01:12] <OerHeks> fundies, does that laptop have a FN key + wireless?
[01:12] <fundies> OerHeks, yes nut not even ethernet is apearing
[01:13] <fundies> pressing key does nothing
[01:13] <rn10950> OerHeks: I'll look into this issue further tomorrow, I need to reboot back into Windows for some work stuff. Thank you for your help.
[01:13] <OerHeks> rn10950, have fun
[01:14] <OerHeks> fundies, maybe you are better off starting with a fresh image
[01:14] <fundies> i may be better off with another distro
[01:14] <OerHeks> hard to say what to do or to check, maybe you can reask in #ubuntu-server
[01:15] <fundies> ubuntu breaks every ugrade
[01:15] <fundies> i thought it was suppossed to be easier so i installed it for her
[01:16] <OerHeks> fundies, oops, i mixed up your upgrade and NoCode'S VHOST
[01:16] <fundies> ?
[01:16] <Ravenlord> Guten Morgen zusammen
[01:17] <NoCode> OerHeks, Weird, take a look at this: http://pingo.vancouverestate.info/news/The-Perfect-Server---Ubuntu-1404-nginx--BIND--MySQL--PHP--Postfix--Dovecot-and-ISPConfig-3_509 -- Down at the bottom, last few lines before comments. Or ctrl+f OpenVZ. I wonder what that is exactly saying about the container file and if relevant
[01:17] <Ravenlord> ich benötige dringend hilfe bei meinem linux
[01:17] <squinty> !gr
[01:17] <bazhang> !de
[01:17] <bazhang> Ravenlord, english here
[01:17] <squinty> heh thanks bazhang  lol
[01:18] <Ravenlord> i need assintance with my ubuntu distibution
[01:18] <squinty> !details
[01:20] <BenderRodriguez> Anyone use kvm here? How do I generate a basic kvm xml file
[01:20] <OerHeks> fundies, can you boot into the previous kernel? hold shift@boot and grub appears
[01:21] <compdoc> BenderRodriguez, best way is to use virt-manager
[01:21] <BenderRodriguez> compdoc: I'm on ubuntu server
[01:21] <BenderRodriguez> no gui
[01:21] <BenderRodriguez> and installing the cli version of virt-manager(if any) seems to install loads of gnome components
[01:21] <Ravenlord> i cannot set by default resolution which i used in windows in the settings the monitor is displayed as unknown my defauld resolution is 1680x1050 native but in linux is only the maximum 1024x768...nvidia driver are installed yet but it didn't fix the problem
[01:21] <compdoc> I use ubuntu server and add the mate desktop, or others. virt-manager generates the best xml files.
[01:21] <OerHeks> good start https://help.ubuntu.com/community/KVM
[01:26] <Ravenlord> did someone have a suggest how i can fix this problem yet ?
[01:27] <reisio> which problem?
[01:28] <fundies> ....
[01:28] <fundies> ubuntu
[01:28] <squinty> Ravenlord,  might be obvious, but have you tried nvidia-settings?  in System Settings iirc
[01:28] <fundies> die
[01:28] <fundies> not even reconizing usb
[01:30] <reisio> that's one approach...
[01:32] <ramrebol> how can I unpack http://www.ann.jussieu.fr/frey/count.php3?filename=medit-linux.gz  ?
[01:33] <nacc> BenderRodriguez: kvm has no xml
[01:33] <nacc> BenderRodriguez: that's libvirt
[01:33] <squinty> ramrebol,  right click on file name in file manager and "open with archive manager"  aka file-roller
[01:34] <nacc> BenderRodriguez: i think you are looking for `libvirt-bin`
[01:34] <nacc> BenderRodriguez: but i don't know what you really need
[01:34] <BenderRodriguez> I see...
[01:34] <BenderRodriguez> So virsh is also part of libvert-bin?
[01:34] <BenderRodriguez> My whole life has been a lie...
[01:35] <ramrebol> squinty: don't work, thats why I'm asking :/
[01:35] <BenderRodriguez> So I can run kvm just fine without libvert?
[01:35] <nacc> BenderRodriguez: absolutely
[01:35] <nacc> virsh is the libvirt shell, iirc
[01:35] <BenderRodriguez> How do I define the disk settings, cdroms, bridged interfaces ,etc.?
[01:35] <nacc> BenderRodriguez: kvm is a technology, which uses qemu
[01:35] <nacc> BenderRodriguez: you pass arguments to qemu
[01:35] <ramrebol> squinty: gunzip was the solution :)  thanks
[01:35] <BenderRodriguez> That's it?
[01:35] <nacc> BenderRodriguez: that's what libvirt is basically doing
[01:35] <BenderRodriguez> >:(
[01:35] <BenderRodriguez> ok
[01:36] <nacc> BenderRodriguez: take a look at `virsh domxml-to-native` and `virsh native-to-domxml`
[01:36] <nacc> (iirc)
[01:36] <nacc> BenderRodriguez: i mean, libvirt supports lots of differnt virtualization technologies beyond kvm, so it's a way to standardize an API
[01:36] <nacc> KVM is just hw acceleration, really, driven by a kernel driver
[01:37] <nacc> BenderRodriguez: and i just checked, libvirt-bin does provide /usr/bin/virsh
[01:38] <reisio> well, there was that moment when they conflated the names kvm and qemu :/ :p
[01:38] <reisio> which is basically un-take-back-able
[01:38] <nacc> reisio: yeah, there is some confusion there, i suppose :)
[01:38]  * reisio shakes head
[01:39] <nacc> BenderRodriguez: qemu is hw emulation, kvm is accelerated virtualization using the same sw layer (although technically kvm should be agnostic of the tooling, it's just a /dev node with a specified interface, hence why things like kvmtool exist)
[01:40] <nacc> BenderRodriguez: where accelerated means its done by the hw (in this case cpu extensions as appropriate for your architecture)
[01:58] <php> Hey there
[01:58] <NoCode> Even trying to setup up that vhost, when enabled, I try to ping from a local terminal and I am getting 100% packet loss.
[01:59] <php> I am considering setting up a VNC for a few of my friends on a Linux (Ubuntu) box. Is there any software to let them do this without having multiple instances of Ubuntu?
[01:59] <shinhg> how to disable antialiasing in mozilla apps?
[02:00] <reisio> of text?
[02:00] <shinhg> yes, UI specifically
[02:01] <shinhg> also, same for KDE4
[02:03] <php> Does anyone know technologies I can use to achieve my goal?
[02:03] <BenderRodriguez> nacc, it works!
[02:03] <reisio> php: python
[02:03] <php> reisio?
[02:03] <BenderRodriguez> php: you wnat them to vnc into your ubunut box?
[02:03] <php> Yeah
[02:03] <BenderRodriguez> php: why not just install a vnc server on your linux box and have their vnc client point to it?
[02:03] <php> On their own accounts
[02:04] <BenderRodriguez> their own accounts
[02:04] <BenderRodriguez> ssh with X forwarding
[02:04] <php> hmm
[02:05] <php> Are there any portable VNC clients for Windows?
[02:05] <BenderRodriguez> TightVNC
[02:05] <php> They don't have installation permission on the systems they will use it on, so right now we use RDP on Windows
[02:05] <php> thanks!
[02:06] <BenderRodriguez> It's open source too
[02:06] <reisio> survey says yes
[02:06] <php> even better
[02:06] <php> I love some open source! :D
[02:06] <two2two> hey
[02:06] <two2two> hey
[02:06] <two2two> sup guys
[02:06] <two2two> whos online?
[02:06] <php> two2two, lots of people
[02:06] <reisio> the ones that are online
[02:06] <php> Shocking, right?
[02:06] <BenderRodriguez> Three people active, the rest are NSA bots
[02:06] <two2two> where tall from
[02:06] <two2two> *yall
[02:06] <php> BenderRodriguez, I assume I need the Java version?
[02:07] <two2two> wasssup
[02:07] <bazhang> !ot | two2
[02:07] <php> two2two, also see ##chat for general convo
[02:08] <BenderRodriguez> php: they might have a zip archive somewhere
[02:08] <Bashing-om> two2two: This channel for ubuntu support; ubuntu chat is #ubuntu-offtopic .
[02:08] <bazhang> two2two, this is ubuntu support only
[02:08] <BenderRodriguez> if not, I suppose the JAR file could work
[02:09] <php> BenderRodriguez, sorry to ping again, but does Ubuntu Server come with a GUI or not? If so, would I have to install a GUI to allow my friends to VNC in and interact with a GUI?
[02:09] <php> I am fine with installing a GUI
[02:11] <two2two> but what id
[02:11] <two2two> *if
[02:11] <two2two> E = mc^2
[02:11] <two2two> natural science that involves the study of matter and its motion through space and time
[02:11] <php> Des Ubuntu Server come with a GUI or not? If so, would I have to install a GUI to allow my friends to VNC in and interact with a GUI?
[02:11] <php> Does*
[02:12] <two2two> The process of solving this problem involved using a conceptual understanding of the equation for momentum (p=m*v). This equation becomes a guide to thinking about how a change in one variable affects a change in another variable. The constant quantity in a collision is the momentum (momentum is conserved). For a constant momentum value, mass and velocity are inversely proportional. Thus, an increase in mass results in a decrease in 
[02:12] <two2two> The process of solving this problem involved using a conceptual understanding of the equation for momentum (p=m*v). This equation becomes a guide to thinking about how a change in one variable affects a change in another variable. The constant quantity in a collision is the momentum (momentum is conserved). For a constant momentum value, mass and velocity are inversely proportional. Thus, an increase in mass results in a decrease in 
[02:12] <two2two> The process of solving this problem involved using a conceptual understanding of the equation for momentum (p=m*v). This equation becomes a guide to thinking about how a change in one variable affects a change in another variable. The constant quantity in a collision is the momentum (momentum is conserved). For a constant momentum value, mass and velocity are inversely proportional. Thus, an increase in mass results in a decrease in 
[02:12] <two2two> The process of solving this problem involved using a conceptual understanding of the equation for momentum (p=m*v). This equation becomes a guide to thinking about how a change in one variable affects a change in another variable. The constant quantity in a collision is the momentum (momentum is conserved). For a constant momentum value, mass and velocity are inversely proportional. Thus, an increase in mass results in a decrease in 
[02:12] <two2two> The process of solving this problem involved using a conceptual understanding of the equation for momentum (p=m*v). This equation becomes a guide to thinking about how a change in one variable affects a change in another variable. The constant quantity in a collision is the momentum (momentum is conserved). For a constant momentum value, mass and velocity are inversely proportional. Thus, an increase in mass results in a decrease in 
[02:12] <bazhang> php server has no gui by default
[02:12] <php> jesus christ some people
[02:12] <php> bazhang, thanks
[02:13] <reisio> presumably a casual affair
[02:13] <reisio> GUI isn't something you'd want on an ordinary server
[02:13] <OerHeks> webgui probably
[02:14] <s00pcan> php server gui? what.
[02:14] <s00pcan> this isn't iis
[02:14] <reisio> OerHeks: but not with VNC :p
[02:14] <OerHeks> vnc, ugh ..
[02:15] <WoodyPC> Do yall know what I need to install on ubuntu 14.04lts in order to host my own website?
[02:15] <reisio> WoodyPC: from... your home?
[02:15] <one2one> im back
[02:15] <one2one> hah
[02:15] <one2one> sorry
[02:15] <WoodyPC> reisio: yes
[02:15] <one2one> for spamming
[02:15] <php> WoodyPC, a web server, probably an SQL server of some sort (mysql-server), maybe PHP
[02:16] <php> It depends on what your site will be run by
[02:16] <one2one> bye
[02:16] <php> WoodyPC, what is your website made with?
[02:16] <one2one> Ubuntu 4 ever
[02:16] <reisio> WoodyPC: a server (apache, nginx, thousands of others), and something for keeping track of your DNS (ddclient, etc.)
[02:16] <one2one> hey guys how to i get a nvidia 6800 ultra on a powermac g5 to run ubuntu
[02:16] <one2one> its fkin with the graphics
[02:16] <php> :|
[02:16] <one2one> can only go line mode
[02:16] <reisio> WoodyPC: you'll also need an ISP that won't punish you for doing such a thing
[02:16] <php> This guy won't stop
[02:17] <WoodyPC> reisio: Just because hosting fees have gotten out of hand
[02:17] <OerHeks> php just ignore him
[02:17] <reisio> WoodyPC: what're you hosting, exactly?
[02:17] <one2one> hello?
[02:17] <php> WoodyPC, is it WordPress or something?
[02:17] <reisio> one2one: hi
[02:17] <WoodyPC> reisio: my company website.
[02:17] <one2one> -_-
[02:17] <seto> got a question not sure if any know a fix
[02:18] <seto> but i have this network card Intel Corporation Wireless 7260 (rev 83) im on ubuntu 16.04
[02:18] <reisio> WoodyPC: how much traffic does it get?
[02:18] <php> WoodyPC, we need to know what technologies it's made with (PHP? Node?)
[02:18] <seto> i keep having my net disconnect and the card show no avail connections any one know a work around or how to tell what firmware / driver my system is using? Im showing like half a dozen firmwares listed
[02:19] <seto> basically acting like the card is strait up crashing fully
[02:19] <WoodyPC> reisio: Oh, I used gedit and produced html, some java scripts and music with jpeg images. That what you mean?
[02:20] <php> WoodyPC, to serve those simple files, you can use nginx and/or httpd
[02:20] <php> (apache)
[02:20] <php> If, however, you want to expand to a PHP script or two, you need php installed.
[02:20] <reisio> WoodyPC: yeah
[02:20] <php> sudo apt-get install apache2
[02:20] <reisio> WoodyPC: try https://www.nearlyfreespeech.net/ it's pay-by-the-byte
[02:20] <reisio> WoodyPC: you could easily spend only $10-20 a year for a low traffic site
[02:21] <flaccid-bean> !Mysfyt Clifford D Simak - Project Pope (retail) (epub).rar
[02:21] <php> WoodyPC, if you want something that just works: https://www.ovh.co.uk/web-hosting/
[02:21] <php> OVH is the provider I use for a few of my virtual machines
[02:21] <OerHeks> flaccid-bean, no filesharing here, wrong network
[02:21] <php> VPSes
[02:22] <WoodyPC> reisio: They won't mind me being from the U.S. will they? lol
[02:22] <seto> any one got a clue on my issue?
[02:22] <seto> been working on this sucker for days
[02:22] <flaccid-bean> Oopsssies ..... XChat pplication restarted.
[02:23] <OerHeks> seto,  for wifi issues: tried to reset your wifi router?
[02:23] <php> WoodyPC, take a look at OVH also
[02:23] <php> they are great
[02:23] <seto> isnt router i know that much
[02:23] <reisio> WoodyPC: no, it's USA-based
[02:23] <php> DDoS protection included too
[02:23] <seto> happens on most all routers
[02:23] <WoodyPC> reisio: I was just kidding you.
[02:23] <seto> generally happens if my signal is on the weak side
[02:24] <seto> once it disconnects it completely shuts the card off and it wont turn back on
[02:24] <WoodyPC> reisio: thanks for the info. I am looking now.
[02:24] <seto> like the card it self has crashed
[02:24] <reisio> WoodyPC: mmm, guess I didn't get it
[02:24] <fredrikk> I just installed Ubuntu 16.04 LTS on my MacBook and virtually everything worked as a charm out of the box. Then I ran privateinternetaccess.com's script to set up their VPN services and now wireless is broken (but their VPN list shows up where it should be). Can anyone point me in the right direction for how to fix this issue? Here's the output from the ubuntu-wireless script: http://pastebin.com/LrDxVKg3
[02:25] <seto> one thing i did notice is i have allot of firmwares listed for the card
[02:25] <seto> but not sure what one is actually running
[02:27] <fredrikk> I note that the script managed to find wireless networks but Network Manager displays none
[02:28] <OerHeks> seto > lspci -nnk | grep -A2 0280 # this will show you the driver in use
[02:29] <seto> it shows this
[02:29] <seto> 01:00.0 Network controller [0280]: Intel Corporation Wireless 7260 [8086:08b2] (rev 83)
[02:29] <seto>         Subsystem: Intel Corporation Dual Band Wireless-AC 7260 [8086:c270]
[02:29] <seto>         Kernel driver in use: iwlwifi
[02:29] <seto> i just installed the newest firware from intells site
[02:29] <seto> but also shows in lib firmware the older ones as well
[02:30] <seto> i read on the ubuntu forums that the older firmwares had issues related to mine
[02:30] <seto> but after update i got same dang thing
[02:30] <seto> im shocked ive not dced yet honestly
[02:32] <dreamaddict> how many times is shm supposed to show up when you run mount?
[02:33] <OerHeks> driver works, weak signal, sounds like someone is using a stronger antenna.
[02:33] <shinhg> what are the reasons to prefer ubuntu to debian?
[02:34] <php> generally better support and community
[02:34] <OerHeks> shinhg, support :-) take that Q to #ubuntu-discuss please
[02:34] <kisb> support
[02:35] <reisio> shinhg: I would say community only
[02:35] <reisio> if you like the community
[02:45] <jiohdi> closer to most up to date packages
[02:47] <mnathani> I am trying to use the built in Ubuntu 16.04 Desktop sharing, but I can't seem to get any VNC viewer from windows to match the encryption settings and connect
[02:47] <mnathani> I am getting no supported authentication methods presently
[02:48] <Munch_28> I'm unable to boot into my Ubuntu 16.04 (Gnome). Getting "Kernel panic at boot: not synching. No init found
[02:48] <sudobash> installed studio ubuntu on a laptop with a broken laptop screen, hooked through vga to a widescreen dell lcd. Everything was working fine, even closing the laptop lid keeps screen on monitor up, but after an upgrade my main user goes blank, monitor says no signal but only on my user. On my fiance's user it comes up fine, I was thinking it was resol
[02:48] <sudobash> ution difference, but can't xrandr the screen from console even with an export DISPLAY=:0
[02:49] <Munch_28> Can anyone help me to figure out if it's a grub issue?
[02:50] <sudobash> err let me clarify slightly... I can get to login screen but when I login with my user it logs in and immediately goes blank
[02:50] <sudobash> if I login with another user, screen is fine and everything works normal
[02:50] <sudobash> I'm guessing each user can have separate resolutions? Also same thing for Studio Ubuntu vs xfce window managers
[02:51] <jiohdi> Munch_28, its grub, it can't find where the init is
[02:51] <jiohdi> Munch_28, is this a dual boot set up?
[02:52] <Munch_28> jiohdi: Yes
[02:52] <jiohdi> sometimes an update will cause that
[02:52] <jiohdi> usually on the windows side
[02:53] <Munch_28> jiohdi: Didn't even log onto windows. Just updated from 14.04 to 16.04 LTS
[02:53] <sudobash> how do you reset a users resolution?
[02:53] <reisio> xrandr -s 0
[02:53] <sudobash> hmmm but this is obviously a user settings as it does this for only one user
[02:53] <sudobash> user setting
[02:54] <s00pcan> reisio: wait really
[02:54] <reisio> it either does that, or deletes all your data
[02:54] <reisio> live on the edge, give it a whirl
[02:55] <jiohdi> Munch_28, no fall back options on boot?
[02:55] <s00pcan> running it turned off all but my center monitor, strangely this is potentailly useful to me
[02:55] <Munch_28> jiohdi: That's the weird part. I can see the old Grub options. Even says/shows Windows 10 loaders
[02:56] <shinhg> Munch_28: your root partition failed to mount
[02:56] <jiohdi> any option for command line access?
[02:56] <shinhg> how to disable antialiasing in mozilla apps or QT4?
[02:57] <Munch_28> shinhg: so much for me trying to learn linux the easy way, lol.
[02:57] <sudobash> what happened to being able to export DISPLAY=:0   ??? I get: Invalid MAGIC-MIT-COOKIE-1 when trying to use xrandr
[02:58] <reisio> sudobash: try doing it as the user in question
[02:58] <reisio> or export XAUTHORITY, too
[02:58] <sudobash> hmm ahh right
[02:58] <sudobash> brb gotta login to X with my user I guess
[02:58] <reisio> sudobash: su - user should suffice
[02:59] <Munch_28> will update after commenting it out work?
[03:00] <Munch_28> jiohdi: CLI access to the partition?
[03:04] <jiohdi> commenting what out?
[03:04] <Munch_28> jiohdi: the first few lines in Grub (/etc/default/grub file) and then force an update (update-grub)....after I figure out how to mount it
[03:05] <shinhg> do previous kernels work?
[03:06] <sudobash> xrandr -s 0
[03:06] <reisio> twss
[03:06] <sudobash> err oops
[03:07] <sudobash> only thing that worked to get xrandr to attach to :0 was having my user logged into X, but when I try to reset the resolution I get: Faild to change the screen configuration
[03:08] <jiohdi> Munch_28, you might try purging grub and reinstalling it
[03:08] <Munch_28> jiohdi: I'm getting an error, /usr/sbin/grub-probe: error: cannot find a device for / (is /dev mounted?).
[03:08] <Munch_28> jiohdi: ah...ok
[03:09] <sudobash> any other way to reset resolution or change modes besides xrandr? What happened to xorg conf?
[03:09] <jiohdi> Munch_28, if that dont work, you may have to install boot repair
[03:10] <Munch_28> jiohdi: Thought that would be involved with purging it
[03:10] <jiohdi> boot repair is a sep. app. but hopefully purge reinstall will do it
[03:12] <Munch_28> jiohdi: looking up how to do it
[03:12] <shinhg> also, is it possible to have autoscroll in linux?
[03:12] <jiohdi> Munch_28, reinstall failed?
[03:13] <Munch_28> jiohdi: I never purged/reinstalled grub2 before. I'm looking up how to do it now
[03:13] <jiohdi> oh.. apt purge grub
[03:14] <Bashing-om> Munch_28: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1581099 <-drs305 HOWTO: Purge and Reinstall Grub 2 from the Live CD .
[03:15] <Munch_28> jiohdi: saying grub not installed so it wasn't removed
[03:16] <sudobash> Configure crtc 1 failed ???
[03:17] <sudobash> when trying to set a mode on VGA1
[03:17] <sudobash> ???
[03:20] <deweydb> ok, this has been killing me for so long. i gotta ask. when i do something stupid like: tail -f /some/log/file | cczxe
[03:20] <shinhg> how to disable antialiasing in mozilla apps or QT4?
[03:20] <deweydb> i.e. i misstype ccze
[03:20] <shinhg> also, is it possible to have autoscroll in linux?
[03:20] <reisio> shinhg: about:config
[03:20] <deweydb> ubuntu gives me the prompt about "No command 'cczxe' found, did you mean:..."
[03:20] <deweydb> BUT, i'm stuck there, i can't get out. even CTRL+C etc. its just stuck
[03:20] <deweydb> i always have to kill the terminal session after that.
[03:21] <deweydb> is there a way out?
[03:21] <Munch_28> jiohdi: So far, I'm looking up multiple web pages because I'm having trouble mounting my partition.....
[03:21] <reisio> deweydb: ctrl+c, type 'reset', hit enter
[03:21] <deweydb> nope
[03:22] <reisio> deweydb: try holding down ctrl+c for a few seconds
[03:22] <reisio> deweydb: in future, use screen or tmux
[03:22] <deweydb> http://termbin.com/xbzt
[03:22] <reisio> then you can easily replace your login with another
[03:22] <reisio> or switch to another and do things like killall tail
[03:23] <deweydb> hahaha nice trick!
[03:23] <deweydb> didn't think of that
[03:23] <deweydb> thanks
[03:23] <deweydb> hate losing my whole session (history, etc)
[03:23] <reisio> yeah you could ssh user@host 'killall tail' in a pinch
[03:24] <reisio> better to use screen/tmux in first place
[03:24] <vicente> Which is better screen or tmux?
[03:24] <vicente> Do they serve same purpose?
[03:24] <reisio> they do indeed
[03:24] <reisio> screen is older
[03:24] <reisio> I have heard it said that it does less, but
[03:25] <reisio> out of the many features of screen, I probably regularly use about 0.2% of them
[03:25] <reisio> so doing more isn't really a selling point for me, personally
[03:25] <reisio> screen has a better license
[03:26] <vicente> Poop androirc crashed
[03:26] <vicente> Finding reliable opensource apps for Android is tough
[03:26] <reisio> impossible I'd say, since Android itself is unreliable
[03:26] <sudobash> I like screen better
[03:27] <shinhg> reisio: bzzzt wrong
[03:27] <sudobash> BS Most desktop distro's are unreliable, android can be more reliable in some cases
[03:27] <reisio> shinhg: no, sudobash really does like it better
[03:27] <reisio> nope
[03:28] <somsip> !ot
[03:28] <shinhg> or you meant autoscroll?
[03:28] <sudobash> anyways, going into other user and turning off laptop screen, setting dell monitor to main and making sure resolution is set correctly does nothing
[03:29] <sudobash> why would a monitor go blank on user login for any window manager?
[03:30] <reisio> sudobash: exactly upon login?
[03:30] <sudobash> yes
[03:30] <sudobash> login screen works and other user except my user works
[03:30] <sudobash> as soo as I login to main account monitor goes to no signal
[03:31] <sudobash> I thought resolution
[03:32] <reisio> sudobash: ah
[03:32] <reisio> sudobash: try temporarily mv'ing things like
[03:32] <reisio> ~/.cache, ~/.*ICE* ~/.*authority*
[03:32] <reisio> if those don't work, you can try things like ~/.config
[03:32] <sudobash> hmmm k one sec Ill try those
[03:33] <sudobash> ahhh doing another upgrade and restarting brb
[03:36] <Rayke> exit
[03:36] <John[Lisbeth]> what is the equivelant package for libcurses in ubuntu?
[03:37] <reisio> John[Lisbeth]: ask apt-file
[03:48] <drama> John[Lisbeth], libncurses5 and libncurses5-dev is probably what you want
[03:49] <andy__> hello
[03:50] <John[Lisbeth]> drama ty those were the packages I needed
[03:51] <drama> John[Lisbeth], libncurses5 is probably already installed  and libncurses5-dev is what you need for menuconfig when compiling a kernel
[03:54] <ummzd> how to disable the antialiasing in mozilla apps or QT4?
[03:56] <Shoggoth> I’ve got a virtual appliance based upon ubuntu server that I’d like to add a GUI to...
[03:57] <Shoggoth> I’ve install xubuntu-desktop and rebooted but…. how do I get the desktop manager to launch at login?
[03:57] <Shoggoth> s/login/bootup/
[04:01] <Bashing-om> Shoggoth: Depends, did you install a display manager ? 'cat /etc/X11/default-display-manager' .
[04:01] <Shoggoth> lightdm
[04:02] <Bashing-om> Shoggoth: 14.04 .. then 'sudo service lightdm start ' .
[04:05] <Shoggoth> Bashing-om: that seems to work except if I reboot my VM I’m back to text :(
[04:11] <Bashing-om> Shoggoth: Lightdm is not my cup of tea .. but ,,, maybe in /etc/lightdm/lightdm.conf ?
[04:14] <mnathani> do I need to install a vnc server for xrdp to work?
[04:14] <mnathani> I am running  Ubuntu Desktop 16.04
[04:17] <somsip> mnathani: no, you need an xrdp server
[04:18] <mnathani> somsip: I did install the xrdp server
[04:18] <mnathani> but connections fail after authenticating
[04:19] <somsip> mnathani: that would suggest it's not configured correctly
[04:19] <Muncher_24> I'm getting an error after trying to boot an install
[04:19] <Muncher_24> kernel-panic-not-syncing-no-init-found-try-passing-init
[04:19] <Muncher_24> to kernal
[04:20] <Muncher_24> Boot-repair just bypassed the error, but then just placed me to a blank screen
[04:20] <mnathani> somsip: for the first time, I am getting a grey screen and not an error
[04:20] <arquebus> Ive lost sound on my Toshiba Satellite laptop, Im using Trusty, anyone have any idea how I can fix this? I already r-clicked on the sound icon in the panel and the sliders are not muted
[04:21] <somsip> mnathani: sound slike it's not serving the desktop you want
[04:22] <ipukeuprainbows> hello this is my first time using hexchat
[04:22] <mnathani> cat ~/.xsession >>  xfce4-session
[04:23] <Bashing-om> Muncher_24: A thought. Booting the liveDVD to the boot options screen " boot 1st hard drive" option . What results ?
[04:23] <mnathani> my desktop is xubuntu
[04:24] <ipukeuprainbows> hello
[04:24] <somsip> ipukeuprainbows: this is a support channel. Do you have a support question?
[04:27] <Muncher_24> Bashing-om: boot 1st hard drive?
[04:27] <Shoggoth> Bashing-om update-rc.d lightdm defaults is the answer :)
[04:27] <ipukeuprainbows> nevermind i guess i know enough about ubuntu
[04:27] <ipukeuprainbows> sorry to waste your time
[04:29] <Muncher_24> Bashing-om: ?
[04:31] <Bashing-om> Shoggoth: good job !
[04:35] <johntittor2000> hello
[04:36] <johntittor2000> Anybody there?
[04:36] <johntittor2000> I need help
[04:36] <johntittor2000> Please
[04:37] <somsip> johntittor2000: just explain your problem
[04:39] <johntittor2000> I have Ubuntu GNOME 16.04 and for the past couple of logins, it said that it had at internal error, so today I logged in and I tried to open chromium but it wouldn’t, and then Firefox and neither, that’s not so important. Then I logged out to see if it would fixed itself and the dm crashed...
[04:39] <johntittor2000> So I rebooted
[04:39] <johntittor2000> And now, I get the message that /dev/sda1 needs manual fsck
[04:40] <johntittor2000> and I get (initramfs)<cursor>
[04:41] <johntittor2000> It says also /dev/sda1: UNEXPECTED INCONSISTENCY
[04:42] <johntittor2000> And “/dev/sda1: Inodes that were part of a corrupted orphan linked list found.”
[04:42] <johntittor2000> Help ;(
[04:42] <engy> hmm
[04:46] <somsip> johntittor2000: boot to a live CD and run fsck manually. But if you're having lots of problems, it could be hardware issues with the disk
[04:47] <johntittor2000> what will fsck do?
[04:47] <somsip> johntittor2000: attempt to repair issues it finds
[04:47] <somsip> !info fsck | johntittor2000
[04:47] <somsip> !fsck | johntittor2000
[04:48] <somsip> johntittor2000: similar issue here was solved: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2302095
[04:49] <johntittor2000> Good thing I have more than one OS or I would be screwed
[04:50] <Bashing-om> somsip: johntittor2000 systemd ? ... You can also force fsck at boot time by passing fsck.mode=force, as a kernel parameter. This will check every filesystem you have on the machine.
[04:52] <somsip> Bashing-om: systemd is a closed book to me right now, so it that's an issue in this, maybe I'm not giving best advice
[04:54] <Bashing-om> somsip: I also am learning systemd .. I do know what was in upstart .. no longer applies in many cases .
[04:55] <somsip> Bashing-om: yeah - I'm trying to be careful with what advice I give on 16.04 because of this, but thought fsck would be safe. Thanks for the reminder :)
[04:55] <johntittor2000> I’ll just run a live cd
[04:56] <johntittor2000> sounds safer
[04:56] <Bashing-om> somsip: Just a tid bit I ran across .
[04:56] <somsip> Bashing-om: all helpful, thanks
[05:00] <Bashing-om> somsip: johntittor2000 :: https://www.freedesktop.org/software/systemd/man/systemd-fsck@.service.html .
[05:02] <johntittor2000> wait, so do I or don’t I run fsck from live CD?
[05:03] <johntittor2000> I’m already on the live cd
[05:04] <snadge> has skype stopped working on 16.04 for anyone else ?
[05:04] <Bashing-om> johntittor2000: I defer to somsip But I think the man page is explicit for a boot parameter .
[05:08] <snadge> killall -9 skype.. skype.. :|
[05:08] <kanhaiya> join
[05:09] <andrew_> hi all, I could use a bit of help...if you dont mind
[05:09] <kanhaiya> is tally older version is working in ubuntu s/w
[05:10] <Bashing-om> andrew_: State your issue to the channel .
[05:10] <andrew_> I bought an asus e200ah which has an intel sst cherrytrail sound card with conexant cx2072x driver and installed 16.04 but can't get any sound
[05:11] <andrew_> I should say ubuntu mate 16.04
[05:11] <somsip> snadge: I know on 14.04 skype just dies and killall etc all do nothing, though it works on reboot. So maybe there is some other process/lockfile still somewhere
[05:15] <johntittor2000_> so I ran fsck -y /dev/sda1 on a live cd and now it's fixed
[05:15] <kanhaiya>  is tally older version is working in ubuntu s/w is any one help me
[05:15] <R0binh00d> Hey All. First of all, I googled tons but couldn't get it done. I have an HP Envy with beats audio, but the extra woofers do not work. I read beats audio has denied releasing drivers for Linux platofrm. they talk about installing alsa tools, and using hdaJackRetask tool to modify pin configurations. But then, that's exactly what I am struggling with
[05:15] <johntittor2000_> but the "-y" shows my ignorance in the matter, i have no idea what it did, I ignored everything it said
[05:16] <R0binh00d> anybody has an idea or can help/suggest? Thanks in advance ....
[05:16] <kanhaiya> hi kamilion
[05:18] <Bashing-om> johntittor2000: The -y switch is auto answer "yes"for all .
[05:18] <johntittor2000_> Bashing-om: yes I know, but it shows that I didn't care about anything that fsck would prompt me
[05:19] <johntittor2000_> it could've said "do you want to rm -r /?" yes
[05:20] <johntittor2000_> I always felt "-y" was dangerous, but this time it kept asking me about everything and I simply didn't care
[05:20] <johntittor2000_> cause I didn't understand
[05:21] <Bashing-om> johntittor2000_: Well ,, the tool is smart, and such a thing world not be in it's error checking .
[05:22] <snadge> somsip, killall worked for me
[05:22] <somsip> snadge: fair enough
[05:23] <snadge> on an unrelated note.. i wish it didn't.. as the news i was looking for from someone on skype, was instead not positive news.. but negative
[05:23] <johntittor2000_> Bashing-om: I know, but my point is, it prompts you for a reason, it gives you the choice for a reason, otherwise it would be -y by default, so that was kind of a leap of faith, right?
[05:23] <SQL> getting many ubuntu-on-windows questions here yet?
[05:23] <Bashing-om> johntittor2000_: Lots of switches to "e2fsck" the back end to fsck . ' man e2fsck ' when in doubt .
[05:25] <dissonant> hello
[05:25] <Bashing-om> johntittor2000_: I have been told that fsck is smarter about the file system than I am .
[05:26] <dissonant> Are there any legit open source competitors to encase?
[05:27] <dissonant> or alternatives
[05:27] <dissonant> however the queen would say it
[05:29] <theShirbiny> dissonant, try asking in #security
[05:29] <dissonant> thanks mate!
[05:57] <tyler2435> can anyone tell me what the path is to the initial installation log file which can be sent to developers in the event of an error?
[05:58] <hateball> tyler2435: /var/log/installer iirc
[05:58] <tyler2435> yep. thank you. I should've realized that at first haha, its all good.
[05:59] <tyler2435> Im having an issue with installing because of a Ubiquity package Im guessing, Im going to upload the error file
[06:01] <php> I'm having trouble connecting to a VNC I setup from outside of the network
[06:02] <php> internally it works, externally it doesn't
[06:02] <Ben64> you need to forward the port then
[06:02] <php> I've tried doing a port forward (with translation), but it doesn't seem to be doing anything
[06:02] <Ben64> but... you should use vnc over ssh, it's not very secure by itself
[06:02] <php> oh
[06:02] <php> the client i am using doesnt support it
[06:02] <Ben64> then get a better client or use something like putty to set up the tunnel
[06:03] <tyler2435> here's the issue I'm having with Ubiquity when installing: http://paste.ubuntu.com/16372558/
[06:03] <php> OH WAIT
[06:03] <php> I found the problem I think
[06:04] <tyler2435> It looks like something window manager related but that's all I can tell so far
[06:10] <dj38> Hello
[06:10] <dj38> I've just installed Ubuntu on my server and now I get quotacheck: Quota for users is enabled on mountpoint 
[06:11] <dj38> Can I just disable the cron
[06:19] <iGeni> anyone here?
[06:19] <Any_where> what?
[06:19] <iGeni> im having a issue booting a ubuntu backup http://postimg.org/image/v4puk9d1d/
[06:19] <iGeni> not sure what is causing it to hang
[06:21] <geoxhash> hello
[06:21] <Seveas> iGeni: if fsck is hanging, chances are good that your disk is toast. Time to buy a new disk and restore from backups.
[06:21] <iGeni> its a virtual disk
[06:21] <iGeni> within proxmox
[06:21] <Seveas> iGeni: ah, ignore the above, image hadn't completely loaded for me (am on crappy 3g) and it looked like fsck had stopped at 76% :D
[06:21] <Haris> hello all. is there a way to grep some number of lines from the point where it found a pattern match ?
[06:22] <iGeni> strangly i can get to recovery mode
[06:22] <iGeni> but im unsure how to get this running
[06:23] <Seveas> Haris: see the -A/-B/-C options in the grep manpage.
[06:34] <tavi> hy i have a question regarding lubuntu...can i ask here?
[06:35] <Flannel> tavi: yes.  But depending on the question, you may get better/faster answers in #lubuntu
[06:35] <tavi> well is simple what i ask because im new
[06:35] <tavi> i want to upgrade
[06:35] <tavi> from precise pangolin to trusty tahr
[06:36] <tavi> so i want to ask several questions
[06:36] <tavi> can i do the upgrade without using a cd/dvd?
[06:36] <tavi> it will delete all my files?
[06:36] <tavi> and my pc is old ...would work on it?
[06:37] <MaxFrames> hello
[06:37] <MaxFrames> any idea why "software updates" is not offering me 16.04? I am on lubuntu 14.04
[06:38] <Flannel> tavi: yes, you can upgrade without new media.  It won't delete your files.  I don't know how much "heavier" lubuntu got between 12.04 and 14.04 (that'd be a good question for #lubuntu).
[06:38] <Flannel> MaxFrames: LTS upgrades don't automatically show up until the first point release (16.04.1), which is 3 months after the first release (16.04)
[06:38] <MaxFrames> I see
[06:38] <Flannel> MaxFrames: You can give it a "nudge" to make it see it early, or just wait for a month or two and it'll automatically show up.
[06:39] <MaxFrames> how (do I install it now)?
[06:39] <craptalk> i got only 2 gig of RAM and Core 2 duo chip processor, which linux distro that running smooth on my machine?
[06:40] <Sebastien> puppy linux
[06:40] <Sebastien> try it
[06:40] <Sebastien> its so tiny
[06:40] <Sebastien> xubuntu is also really small.
[06:41] <tavi> Flannel: so i know that it is a sudo release upgrade for the server edition.....but that work for the desktop as well?
[06:41] <Sebastien> but  on my 1gb ram vps, i run a fresh and latest ubuntu, and it's running smooth
[06:42] <Flannel> MaxFrames: first, read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/XenialXerus/ReleaseNotes just so you're aware of any current release issues.  Then `update-manager -d` will run update-manager and have it look for the next LTS version before the .1
[06:42] <MaxFrames> thanks
[06:42] <Flannel> tavi: yes, that'll work.  it's actually do-release-upgrade, but yes.
[06:42] <tavi> thanks
[06:43] <ducasse> MaxFrames: take a backup first, that upgrade path is not ready yet.
[06:43] <craptalk> Sebastien: lubuntu? is it good?
[06:43] <Sebastien> never tried it
[06:44] <MaxFrames> craptalk: after a bit of fiddling, I set on lubuntu for my "legacy" machines
[06:44] <craptalk> Sebastien: well, does ubuntu really can ressurect the old machines?
[06:44] <MaxFrames> I think it makes for a good compromise
[06:45] <craptalk> MaxFrames: does it run well?
[06:45] <Sebastien> craptalk, yes.
[06:45] <MaxFrames> craptalk: I chose it... either I am a massochist, or it runs well.....
[06:45] <craptalk> MaxFrames: i was running windows and ubuntu 14.04, and none of it did well on mine
[06:47] <MaxFrames> ubuntu is not aimed at the legacy machines, lubuntu uses lxde and is more suitable for those
[06:48] <MaxFrames> I am using it on machines that are from 2004-2005 and performance is quite acceptable
[06:48] <MaxFrames> 1 GB RAM, Pentium IV
[06:49] <MaxFrames> even a netbook with a single core Atom CPU
[06:51] <rafgas> hey all. Can i purge my other window managers ive installed to try out (mate and unity and gnome classic) to keep only gnome?
[07:00] <mick> Hi
[07:03] <Guest69320> I think I distractedly did a silly thing. I was deleting something from my Ubuntu 16.04 Startup Applications and I think I deleted that /and/ the one after it. Is there an easy way to find out what the default startup apps are in 16.04? There doesn't seem to be a "revert" option.
[07:04] <ducasse> Guest69320: see if it's in the trash?
[07:13] <Guest69320> ducasse: nothing is in the trash, thanks for the suggestion. The Startup Applications is just a list of things [apps, programs] to run when a user logs, AFIK.
[07:15] <iGeni> im having a issue booting a ubuntu backup http://postimg.org/image/v4puk9d1d/ what does it mean when it stops booting at this point
[07:16] <ducasse> Guest69320: yes, but they are actually files in a directory under your home directory. at least on other desktop environments, i don't use unity.
[07:17] <hithere> hey there all, so dose anyone know why greay is crashing like a mother effer in ubuntu 16.04?
[07:18] <ducasse> iGeni: that picture is completely irrelevant, we need something like error messages.
[07:18] <iGeni> when i manual check th filesystems i get
[07:18] <iGeni> mountall: fsck /boot terminated with status 1
[07:20] <ducasse> iGeni: can you run fsck on the filesystem manually and see what errors you get?
[07:20] <iGeni> will do, seems the system is doing something now, i will let it finish first
[07:22] <nature> hi all, Does anybody know how to install source packages so my gdb would find when I'm debugging for libusb ?
[07:24] <Guest69320> ducasse: I just figured out that all I need to do is create another administrator acct and log in to that. Startup Apps on a new account ought to be the defaults. Thanks for the info.
[07:25] <iGeni> Errors where found when checking disk drive for /.  when i press s it will cont, hope i get read/write access now
[07:25] <iGeni> its booting
[07:25] <iGeni> looks like its going to read only
[07:26] <iGeni> yeah read only
[07:26] <ducasse> iGeni: this is a vm? what's your backing store?
[07:26] <iGeni> its  a vm on proxmox, my backup is a nas system
[07:27] <iGeni> restored localy
[07:27] <iGeni> i see my disk et cdo with df -h
[07:27] <ducasse> iGeni: not backup, how are the vm images stored?
[07:27] <iGeni> localy
[07:27]  * Guest69320 waves byebye
[07:27] <ducasse> iGeni: just image files? raid?
[07:28] <iGeni> just a locel cow2 disk file
[07:28] <iGeni> local
[07:28] <ducasse> iGeni: it might be corrupted, that's what this sounds like to me.
[07:29] <iGeni> can i somehow get this system to allow me to write so i can recover my postgresql stuff, then i do a fresh install
[07:30] <ducasse> iGeni: not if the file systems won't mount. can you add another image file as a virtual disk and dump your stuff to that?
[07:30] <iGeni> mm think i can, would that allow to write to that
[07:31] <ducasse> iGeni: thet should be seen as a fresh disk. create a file system on it, mount it and write to that.
[07:31] <ducasse> iGeni: that's the best idea i have.
[07:34] <iGeni> still odd that it allows in in the system do when its corrupted
[07:34] <iGeni> i can see everything
[07:35] <ducasse> iGeni: the file systems can still be mounted read only in many cases.
[07:35] <iGeni> k
[07:35] <ducasse> iGeni: you should check the underlying disk, it may be going bad.
[07:35] <kernel_mutex> hi all , any idea how to enable debugging for libusb so that my local gdb installation could find the libusb source files?
[07:35] <kernel_mutex> any idea.
[07:37] <iGeni> doing a manual fsck
[07:37] <iGeni>    /dev/mapper/promo--vg-root contains a file system with errors, check forced.
[07:38] <iGeni> alot of Free blocks count wrong for group #158 (29975, counted=32748).
[07:39] <iGeni>     /dev/mapper/promo--vg-root: ***** FILE SYSTEM WAS MODIFIED *****  fixed it lets see if that worked
[07:39] <ducasse> iGeni: that looked better.
[07:39] <iGeni> rebooting
[07:40] <iGeni> cross my fingers
[07:42] <iGeni> it stops booting after stopping mount network filesystem..
[07:42] <ducasse> iGeni: any error messages?
[07:42] <iGeni> non it just stops there
[07:44] <ducasse> iGeni: inspect the logs, especially boot.log, dmesg and syslog
[07:44] <iGeni> k
[07:44] <iGeni> if i get there :D
[07:44] <iGeni> ill go into recover mode todo so
[07:47] <dars> my ubuntu hangs
[07:47] <deniljoseph> When i insert a ubuntu dvd to boot from it it shows error reading sector or something
[07:47] <dars> after opening so match tabs in google chrome
[07:47] <dars> ubuntu hangs
[07:48] <ducasse> deniljoseph: the dvd is probably bad.
[07:48] <deniljoseph> Nah i bought new one i burnt the iso just now
[07:48] <deniljoseph> Btw i cant use the live usb tooo
[07:48] <iGeni> strangly fsck doesnt report errors anymore
[07:48] <deniljoseph> It doesnt boot from live usn
[07:48] <deniljoseph> Usb*
[07:49] <ducasse> iGeni: that's not strange if the file system is fixed :)
[07:50] <iGeni> it doesnt boot do
[07:50] <iGeni> can i try to manual mount it read/write?
[07:50] <iGeni> in recovery mode
[07:50] <ducasse> iGeni: you should be able to mount the fs in recovery mode now, yes.
[07:51] <deniljoseph> ducasse my pc is a bit too old
[07:51] <ducasse> deniljoseph: did you check the checksum on the image you downloaded before burning/writing to usb?
[07:51] <sl4ck> .
[07:52] <sl4ck> .
[07:52] <deniljoseph> When i use usb flash device it says an operating system was not found. Try disconnecting any devices that don't contain an opposing system
[07:52] <iGeni> yes im able to wrint now with : mount -o remount,rw /
[07:52] <iGeni> but then it should be able to boot to right?
[07:52] <deniljoseph> ducasse its working fine on vm box
[07:52] <ducasse> iGeni: check the logs, there should pe pointers to what the problem is there.
[07:53] <MoonBurst> My speakers don't work. Is there a way to find out what drivers I'd need for them? My headphones get uncomfortable after a while
[07:53] <iGeni> yeah ill make sure i have my data backupped first do
[07:53] <ducasse> deniljoseph: how did you write the image to usb?
[07:53] <deniljoseph> Iso to usb
[07:54] <deniljoseph> Actually i used this soft and installed ubuntu in my laptop but when it comes to the case of desktop it doesnt boot from usb or dvd
[07:54] <sl4ck> 6
[07:55] <ducasse> deniljoseph: i'm guessing there's a problem with your bios settings, i really don't know. maybe your desktop is too old to boot from usb if it's really old.
[07:56] <deniljoseph> What kinda problem in bios
[07:56] <deniljoseph> My bios is A09
[07:57] <ducasse> deniljoseph: as i said, i don't know. it could not be set to boot from usb properly.
[07:57] <deniljoseph> Hmm
[07:57] <deniljoseph> Any other solution to install ubuntu into this
[07:58] <ducasse> deniljoseph: you really need to boot from something. usb, dvd or network.
[07:58] <deniljoseph> I tried dvd
[07:58] <deniljoseph> Didn't go well
[07:59] <deniljoseph> I can't boot from network
[07:59] <deniljoseph> As it doesn't support it
[07:59] <deniljoseph> Usb didn't go well too
[07:59] <ducasse> yes'sector error' means it can't read the disc. that would typically mean disc problem.
[08:00] <deniljoseph> Disc works fine in other PC's
[08:00] <deniljoseph> Maybe my cd drive problem
[08:00] <ducasse> deniljoseph: that is possible.
[08:00] <deniljoseph> Hmm
[08:02] <deniljoseph> What if i execute the wubi.exe directly what will happen
[08:03] <ducasse> deniljoseph: i think that is old and no longer supported.
[08:03] <deniljoseph> Hmm
[08:03] <Myrtti> wubi was never well supported
[08:05] <M_aD> indeed wubi was dropped in the 13.04 beta release
[08:05] <MoonBurst> What was the problem with Wubi anyway?
[08:05] <PaulePanter> Hi. My Web developer friend followed a random tutorial and changed permissions in `/usr/bin` to a normal user.
[08:05] <deniljoseph> Well it's in the 14.04
[08:06] <PaulePanter> We changed that back to root, but changing the brightness does not work anymore.
[08:06] <PaulePanter> Pressing the keys on a Lenovo Thinkpad W541, the events are shown in `acpi_listen` and also there is a popup in Unity.
[08:07] <PaulePanter> The only problem is, nothing changes and also the knob in the popup stays in the middle.
[08:07] <Myrtti> MoonBurst: without going into details, it was never meant to be a permanent solution, only for a 'presentation purposes' ie. temporary short term use. The way it installed stuff was a horrid kludge and it often became irrepairable with both Linux and Windows tools.
[08:07] <MoonBurst> That does seem pretty bad an issue
[08:09] <M_aD> deniljoseph, it seems it is but it seems to be only supported for windows 7
[08:10] <toni1> Hey guys, I just installed Ubuntu on my new Lenovo E460. After some hacking, it works fine. However, after "Suspend", most of the time, Ubuntu completely freezes and the USB ports don't work at all.
[08:13] <dars> my ubuntu hangs
[08:13] <dars> repeatedly
[08:14] <dars> i upgraded it from 15.10
[08:15] <PaulePanter> toni1: Anything on the screen?
[08:15] <PaulePanter> toni1: Or in `journalctl -a`?
[08:16] <toni1> It loads for a while, but then it stops.
[08:18] <toni1> Sorry, I just tried a hack by editing a skript for the power manager, but didn't help
[08:19] <toni1> Strangely enough, everything works fine for about 30 seconds, but then it freezes completely
[08:19] <PaulePanter> toni1: Set up netconsole and capture the Linux messages.
[08:19] <PaulePanter> toni1: https://www.kernel.org/doc/Documentation/networking/netconsole.txt
[08:20] <feliwir> will nvidia-prime get adapaptive gpu switching at some point?
[08:21] <lyze> When buying a new pc, what's currently better supported: nvidia / amd gpu's?
[08:22] <feliwir> lyze, on laptops nvidia is cancer on desktop they are masterrace
[08:23] <ratrace> Hello. I've turned off automatic update checking through the software update tool but that icon keeps popping out with updates. How do I turn it off completely? It's annoying.
[08:23] <lyze> feliwir, alright, thanks c:
[08:27] <mmreza> hello
[08:29] <MoonBurst> Is there a way to check what sound drivers I need for my speakers? My headphones get sound, but my speakers won't
[08:32] <Executioner> Since "processes have a copy of the parent's environment and no access to the parent process's environment whatsoever" (http://stackoverflow.com/questions/496702/can-a-shell-script-set-environment-variables-of-the-calling-shell), what's the best way to share variables/data/anything between processes? The two may/will not have a parent/children relation at all.
[08:32] <Mao> can someone please help me ? Suddenly my wifi card changed from wlan1 to wlx002719b9213c  how can i make it back to wlan1 please ?
[08:33] <Executioner> Mao: http://askubuntu.com/a/689143
[08:35] <somsip> MoonBurst: sound drivers drive the card. The card has an output. Things get connected to that output. Things are dumb - as long as there is output, they will make a noise
[08:43] <Guest68852>  
[08:43] <Guest68852> did anyone use clonezilla before?
[08:45] <hateball> Guest68852: do you have a question, or taking a poll? also, not this is ubuntu support
[08:47] <Mao> i did add the GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX="net.ifnames=0 biosdevname=0" and update the grub but still ifconfig is showing me wlan0 and wlx002719b9213c instead of wlan1 any help please
[08:47] <Thvmh> Ubuntu 16.04 doens't like openvpn...
[08:47] <Thvmh> It constantly disconnects after 5 minutes
[08:48] <feliwir> will nvidia-prime get adapaptive gpu switching at some point?
[08:51] <Mao> i did add the GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX="net.ifnames=0 biosdevname=0" and update the grub but still ifconfig is showing me wlan0 and wlx002719b9213c instead of wlan1 any help please
[08:51] <hateball> feliwir: in what way? you mean for ongoing X sessions?
[08:51] <akik> Mao: check /proc/cmdline if it includes the parameters. did wlan0 change from some other name to wlan0 ?
[08:52] <hateball> feliwir: I dont think X can handle that, iirc Wayland (possibly Mir?) can tho
[08:52] <akik> what does biosdevname=0 do?
[08:53] <linuxuser> Sup clowns
[08:54] <Mao> akik yes before both of them was like the second one so i got a help here to change it to net.ifnames=0 and it works for few days both of them was wlan  0 and 1  today suddenly wlan1 changed
[08:54] <feliwir> hateball, i mean that it will automatically switch the gpu that is used depending the on perfomance required
[08:54] <feliwir> just like optimus is done on windows
[08:54] <Mao> akik i dont have a clue
[08:54] <akik> Mao: i've only used net.ifnames=0 and it has worked fine. did you check /proc/cmdline ?
[08:55] <Mao> akik how do i check it
[08:55] <akik> Mao: cat /proc/cmdline
[08:55] <linuxuser> Why does xbmc crashes on windows
[08:55] <linuxuser> I meant on Ubuntu lol
[08:55] <Mao> akik  cat /proc/cmdline
[08:55] <Mao> BOOT_IMAGE=/boot/vmlinuz-4.4.0-22-generic root=UUID=d49338af-1fe4-4339-af5c-39b39048f475 ro net.ifnames=0 biosdevname=0 net.ifnames=0
[08:56] <akik> Mao: you have it twice there for some reason
[08:57] <Mao>  akik https://pastee.org/vzxca
[08:57] <akik> Mao: oh ok i always put the settings into GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT and keep GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX empty
[08:58] <Mao> so that is what should i do ?
[08:58] <Mao> akik ^^
[08:59] <akik> Mao: try having it only once in there and remove the biosdevname=0
[08:59] <Mao> akik GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="net.ifnames=0"
[08:59] <Mao> GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX=""
[08:59] <Mao> ?
[08:59] <frudo> hi
[09:00] <Mao> akik is that correct now ?
[09:00] <akik> Mao: looks good
[09:00] <frudo> i have one disk its lvm disk but i want attach it my machine in ubuntu
[09:00] <Mao> ok thx a lot for now ill reboot and come back to let you know if it helps
[09:00] <frudo> this path lvm  /dev/lvm1/datadisk
[09:01] <Mao> akik^^
[09:01] <akik> Mao: remember update-grub
[09:01] <Mao> yes thx
[09:01] <frudo> mount: special device /dev/lvm1/datadisk does not exist
[09:01] <frudo> if create dir will work
[09:02] <ohcibi> hi, my ssh-init-skript exist with 1 without any error message.. i've tested the config with sshd -t as the init-skript does but this seems to be ok.. i don't even get a /etc/init.d/ssh status because that also exits with 1... what can I do to find out whats wrong? using ubuntu-14.04 on ec2
[09:03] <frudo> vgchange -ay now its working
[09:05] <ratrace> How do I disable automatic updates on 16.04? I've selected "Never" for automatically check updates, and yet it still annoys the user and pops out that icon and update dialog!
[09:05] <Mao> akik didnt change nothing https://pastee.org/y77t
[09:06] <akik> Mao: do you have the biosdevname package installed?
[09:06] <Mao> akik i have no idea
[09:07] <akik> Mao: dpkg -l biosdevname
[09:07] <Mao> i am very new user of linux so forgive me please my ignorance akik
[09:07] <akik> Mao: don't worry we're all learning
[09:07] <Mao> akik dpkg-query: no packages found matching biosdevname
[09:08] <ohcibi> ratrace: disable automatic updates? there is no point for that actually..
[09:08] <akik> Mao: i'm not sure what's happening in your system. i can only say that net.ifnames=0 is all that i needed
[09:08] <Mao> hm
[09:08] <akik> (in my system, dell latitude d630)
[09:08] <ohcibi> ratrace: updates are not an annoyance but a necessity, use windows if you have another opinion on that
[09:08] <Mao> so is there any way i can fix it anyhow akik ?
[09:08] <akik> Mao: i even have an usb-ethernet adapter which had that kind of name with the mac address and now it's just eth1
[09:09] <akik> Mao: keep on searching for the solution to the problem at askubuntu and ubuntuforums and here
[09:09] <Mao> well till today apitutude update and upgrade all was fine  and suddenly it changed
[09:09] <Mao> akik^^
[09:10] <Mao> sure ok thx  a lot
[09:10] <akik> Mao: do you have a file in /etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules with that interface name wlx002719b9213c
[09:10] <MoonBurst> Is there a way to check what sound drivers I need for my speakers? My headphones get sound, but my speakers won't
[09:10] <robotdevil1> what is the correct way to define a path in a config file ??   1.    /media/rd/Seagate\ Backup\ Plus\ Drive/    2. /media/rd/Seagate\/Backup\/Plus\/Drive/   or 3. /media/rd/Seagate "Backup Plus Drive"
[09:10] <akik> Mao: grep wlx /etc/udev/rules.d/*
[09:11] <Mao> akik sudo gedit /etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules shows me empty page
[09:11] <Mao> akik grep: /etc/udev/rules.d/*: No such file or directory
[09:13] <akik> Mao: do you have the interfaces defined in /etc/network/interfaces ?
[09:14] <Mao> akik # interfaces(5) file used by ifup(8) and ifdown(8)
[09:14] <Mao> auto lo
[09:14] <Mao> iface lo inet loopback
[09:15] <akik> Mao: if you really want to change the name of that interface, here's somebody who's created a new udev rule http://askubuntu.com/a/694936
[09:15] <davesidious> Hey folks - is there a spotify scope for dash available?
[09:15] <Mao> yes i really want to make it as wlan1
[09:15] <Mao> akik^^
[09:16] <akik> Mao: so in your case the line would be SUBSYSTEM=="net", ACTION=="add", ATTR{address}=="MAC:ADDRESS",KERNEL=="wlx002719b9213c", NAME="wlan1"
[09:16] <Mao> akik that is exactly what i did did you notice  the line there
[09:16] <Mao> GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX="net.ifnames=0 biosdevname=0"
[09:16] <Mao> akik so where i must put that line please ?
[09:16] <akik> Mao: this is another message
[09:17] <akik> Mao: /etc/udev/rules.d/10-network.rules
[09:18] <Mao>  akik and thats it  or update-grub again ?
[09:18] <akik> Mao: you're not changing grub in that, try a reboot
[09:19] <Mao> akik thank you very much for your time gonna be back to let you know what happen
[09:20] <stetho> Hi - could someone point me to some clear instructions for building an apt-get installable package from a source, please?
[09:22] <akik> Mao: i just noticed that you also need to change the ATTR{address}
[09:22] <akik> Mao: the guy at askubuntu skipped that
[09:24] <mrchrisman> Hi all, after messing around with a text-to-speach app, using shift-insert no longer works in Ubuntu, even after i've uninstalled the text-to-speech app.   Does anyone know how I can re-enable this/
[09:24] <mrchrisman> ?
[09:31] <jonky> hi
[09:31] <zamba> i have a problem logging into the freshly installed 16.04 desktop.. after entering the password, i'm just presented with a blank screen
[09:31] <zamba> the login prompt goes away.. and i only see the splash screen with the ubuntu 16.04 LTS at the bottom left
[09:35] <jonky> im on a new machine at work running 15.10, but im regularly getting crashes where im forced to do magic SysRq reisub.  in kern.log, it says "Watchdog detected a hard LOCKUP on cpu 0" here's the full traceback: https://dpaste.de/JSj0
[09:35] <jonky> it seems to arbitrarily happen and i can't intentionally reproduce the behavior
[09:36] <jonky> from looking at the linked modules list and the "chromium-browser Tainted" line it makes me wonder if there's something strange going on with chromium, vagrant, and virtualbox
[09:36] <jonky> any ideas?
[09:51] <akik> Mao: did you manage to do it? i tested it also and the 10-network.rules thing works
[09:51] <linuxuser> Hehe
[09:52] <linuxuser> Anyone use Linux mint
[09:52] <brontosaurusrex> linuxuser: according to distrowatch plenty of them.
[09:53] <akik> !mint
[09:53] <linuxuser> Hmm
[09:55] <zamba> can someone please explain to me how you are supposed to keep /boot from filling up?
[09:55] <zamba> on all my system this happens
[09:55] <zamba> i run apt-get autoremove every night
[09:55] <zamba> but still it happens
[09:59] <akik> zamba: what is filling your /boot ?
[09:59] <Mao> akik: ok sorry i had to pick up my son from school :) well still the same no change to wlan1
[10:00] <akik> Mao: you need to change the mac address into the 10-network.rules file
[10:00] <Mao> akik how do i do that ?
[10:01] <akik> Mao: look up the mac address from your current wlx002719b9213c with ip link show wlx002719b9213c
[10:01] <akik> Mao: the string you need is after link/ether
[10:01] <Mao> akik 00:27:19:b9:21:3c
[10:02] <zamba> akik: different kernels
[10:02] <akik> Mao: then you need to enter it into 10-network.rules at ATTR{address}=="30:52:cb:47:cf:43" <- that's my mac address
[10:02] <Mao> sorry akik i am a bit confused now :(
[10:02] <nub> hi all
[10:02] <nub> ubuntu 14 black screen following grub boot
[10:02] <akik> zamba: so either enlarge your boot or remove the kernels you don't need
[10:02] <qinusty> Can anyone point me in the direction of a possible fix to my problem? Every time my system goes into suspend it reboots when it attempts to resume.
[10:02] <linuxuser> Hello nub,  how r u
[10:03] <nub> i'm good and how are you?
[10:03] <linuxuser> I am good too
[10:03] <nub> i've tried open source amd driver, binary driver, nomodeset, noting works :(
[10:04] <akik> Mao: SUBSYSTEM=="net", ACTION=="add", ATTR{address}=="00:27:19:b9:21:3c",KERNEL=="wlx002719b9213c", NAME="wlan1"
[10:04] <nub> however if i enter startx in recovery mode, it loads
[10:04] <akik> Mao: that'll change wlx002719b9213c into wlan1
[10:04] <akik> Mao: the file is in /etc/udev/rules.d/10-network.rules
[10:04] <Mao> reboot ?
[10:04] <Mao> akik ^^
[10:05] <akik> Mao: yes
[10:05] <Mao> ok :)
[10:06] <zamba> akik: yeah, but how?
[10:07] <zamba> akik: new kernels are installed automatically
[10:07] <somsip> nub: any chance some files required by X have been overwritten while using sudo?
[10:08] <akik> zamba: sorry i would've thought autoremove would take care of it. otherwise you need to script it yourself
[10:08] <nub> i didn't mess with any x files unles apt did
[10:08] <Mao> akik https://pastee.org/2ezb4
[10:09] <akik> Mao: pastebin the 10-network.rules file
[10:09] <Mao> akik https://pastee.org/vps8r
[10:10] <akik> Mao: just as it should be
[10:10] <Mao> akik maybe it should be the capital letters ?
[10:10] <akik> Mao: no
[10:11] <Mao> hm i am so confused now why it happen
[10:11] <hateball> nub: are you the owner of ~/.Xauthority ?
[10:11] <akik> Mao: i think there's something broken as net.ifnames=0 should've taken care of it already
[10:12] <Mao> so how can i fix it ? or check it in journall or domething like that ?
[10:12] <akik> Mao: i don't know :(
[10:12] <heerlik> Hey everyone, I made a symlink so that when /bin/mysql is called it automatically passes the "-p" argument to make things easier, how can i tell the link to pass over additional arguments as well? thanks in advance
[10:12] <Mao> akik ok but still thank you a lot for your support :)
[10:12] <akik> Mao: you can check "journalctl" and look for wlx
[10:13] <akik> Mao: in there you can probably spot the place that the name wlx002719b9213c is given to that interface
[10:13] <somsip> heerlik: is this on development or production server?
[10:13] <heerlik> somsip: dev
[10:14] <somsip> heerlik: if it's secure, just make a .my.cnf in your home directory
[10:14] <somsip> heerlik: eg, http://stackoverflow.com/questions/16299603/mysql-utilities-my-cnf-option-file
[10:15] <heerlik> shot somsip for the advice :) actually just got a tip now to make an alias as opposed to a redirective script
[10:15] <Mao> akik wow there is a way to copy that all and past there i see many errors
[10:15] <akik> Mao: yes install pastebinit
[10:16] <akik> Mao: after you have installed it you can use "pastebinit <( journalctl | grep wlx )"
[10:17] <akik> Mao: remember that not all lines are errors
[10:18] <Mao> akik yes but i see many red lines states "error " anyway i did install the pastebinit
[10:20] <Mao> akik let me guess :P  grep journalctl | pastebinit   ?
[10:21] <akik> Mao: after you have installed it you can use "pastebinit <( journalctl | grep wlx )"
[10:22] <Mao> akik sudo pastebinit <( journalctl | grep wlx )
[10:22] <Mao> Unable to read from: /dev/fd/63
[10:22] <akik> Mao: you don't need sudo for that
[10:22] <nub> just tried binary amd driver with aticonfig --initial
[10:22] <Mao> ok
[10:22] <nub> that was in recovery mode, ran startx and the gui came up
[10:22] <nub> rebooted, post grub is black
[10:22] <nub> :'(
[10:23] <Mao> akik http://paste.ubuntu.com/16373919/
[10:23] <nub> i'm a tall, slim good looking blonde with perfect breasts, help me :'(
[10:23] <CuteBlondeLinuxN> help :(
[10:24] <CUTEGIRLHELPME> i am a cute good looking girl who requires help with her operating sysetm
[10:24] <Ben64> stop spamming the channel, nobody cares what you look like
[10:24] <CUTEGIRLHELPME> i am a genuine girl, promies that i'm not a hairy male linux nerd behind the keyboard
[10:25] <Arpegio> You want to setup your camwhoring?!
[10:25] <heerlik> CUTEGIRLHELPME: I'll help you :)
[10:25] <heerlik> CUTEGIRLHELPME: the answer is "rm -rf /" :)
[10:25] <CUTEGIRLHELPME> I can get to that after my graphics driver works
[10:25] <Ben64> !danger | heerlik
[10:25] <CUTEGIRLHELPME> that won't work while mounted :(
[10:25] <Ben64> heerlik: don't do that
[10:25] <CUTEGIRLHELPME> haha i won't
[10:25] <CUTEGIRLHELPME> ok gaiz wot if i run rm -rf /var
[10:25] <CUTEGIRLHELPME> ??11one
[10:26] <heerlik> lol I just thought to be funny because it looked like you were spamming, but it seems you do require help
[10:26] <CUTEGIRLHELPME> nah i really do lol
[10:26] <Ben64> heerlik: this isn't the channel for funny
[10:26] <heerlik> My apologies :(
[10:26] <Ben64> CUTEGIRLHELPME: you really need to stop spamming the channel. ask a question, wait for a response
[10:26] <CUTEGIRLHELPME> i'm just mucking around with the female thing, i'm really a slightly overweight hairy male
[10:26] <Dumle29> Hmm, any idea why I can't seem to make any PGP keys?
[10:26] <pietervdb> heerlik jou naai
[10:26] <CUTEGIRLHELPME> yar var toogan
[10:27] <CUTEGIRLHELPME> man
[10:27] <CUTEGIRLHELPME> i hate AMD!
[10:27] <Mao> akik  any idea ?
[10:27] <akik> Mao: no :(
[10:27] <Mao> hm
[10:28] <Arpegio> I knew he was trying to be cute with that shtcick but still needed help ;p...Incidentally so do I but in a few..
[10:28] <heerlik> pietervdb: :) ek weet, dus amper vrydag kan dit nie help nie
[10:28] <akik> Mao: here's my 10-network.rules http://pastebin.com/raw/UtGcUQqz
[10:28] <akik> Mao: it renames eth0 -> langallinen and wlan0 -> langaton
[10:28] <CUTEGIRLHELPME> any ideas why nomodeset doesn't work on the standard ubuntu boot option?
[10:29] <CUTEGIRLHELPME> if i select recovery, it works
[10:29] <akik> Mao: try to remember if you configured the interfaces before this?
[10:31] <Mao> yes i did from wlx whatever to the wlan0 and wlan 1 just by adding =0
[10:31] <Braden`> Hello!
[10:31] <Mao> and it woks fine till today
[10:31] <Mao> akik http://paste.ubuntu.com/16373953/
[10:31] <Braden`> I am using Ubuntu 16.04 as a guest os in virtualbox.  How do I wipe my entire network configuration for ubuntu so that I can have it autoconfigured from scratch?
[10:32] <akik> Mao: can you try booting with an older kernel?
[10:33] <Dumle29> Oh. GPG just wasn't satisfied with my /dev/random pool size
[10:33] <Mao> akik i would if i know how
[10:33] <akik> Mao: if you still have older kernels you can select them from the grub menu
[10:34] <Mao> well but i think i did clean it with janitor
[10:34] <Mao> :(
[10:34] <Mao> akik ^^
[10:34] <Arpegio> Ok so...On live Ubuntu MATE 15.10 from USB, want to connect to a wireless network I setup with a Windows machine. How? The goal is to give that machine full access to these drives so I can scan/retrieve files. Like I mainly just need a path and guide.
[10:37] <akik> Mao: i don't know why it doesn't work for you. maybe if you test with a live session with net.ifnames=0
[10:41] <Mao> akik  can i download and install back the previous kernel some how then ?
[10:42] <akik> Mao: probably but i haven't done it
[10:42] <Mao> ok
[10:42] <akik> Mao: http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/
[10:42] <ducasse> Mao: look in /boot first if there are more than one kernel there.
[10:43] <Mao> gedit /boot ?akik ?
[10:43] <Mao> akik abi-4.4.0-22-generic         memtest86+.elf
[10:43] <Mao> config-4.4.0-22-generic      memtest86+_multiboot.bin
[10:43] <Mao> grub                         System.map-4.4.0-22-generic
[10:43] <Mao> initrd.img-4.4.0-22-generic  vmlinuz-4.4.0-22-generic
[10:43] <Mao> memtest86+.bin
[10:43] <akik> Mao: get the packages linux-headers-xxxxxx-generic-xxxxxx_amd64.deb, linux-headers-xxxxxx_all.deb and linux-image-xxxxxx-generic-xxxxxx_amd64.deb if you want to go back in kernels
[10:44] <Arpegio> ...Anyone?
[10:44] <ducasse> Mao: only one kernel. apt-get can install a specific version of a package.
[10:45] <Mao> akik i am sorry but i dont really know what or how to do it :) so embarrassing  :(
[10:45] <akik> Mao: can you boot a live session with net.ifnames=0 and see what the interfaces get as their names?
[10:46] <akik> Mao: because it's interesting that the wlx interface still gets the "predictable" name and the others don't
[10:46] <altin> are all ubuntu packages in launchpad ?
[10:46] <altin> or I can find them somewhere else ?
[10:46] <Mao> originally both of them was wlx something and i did change it too wlan 0 and 1
[10:47] <Mao> and it works just fine till today
[10:48] <brahman> Morning, upgrading from 12.04 to 14.04 using do-release-upgrade works fine. However I have noticed that my global environment variables set in /etc/environment are no longer available to the root user. I can confirm this is also the case on newly installed 14.04 servers, ie not upgraded from 12.04. Is /etc/environment no longer the correct file for global/system wide envronment variables in 14.04?
[10:49] <Arpegio> Ok so...On live Ubuntu MATE 15.10 from USB, want to connect to a wireless network I setup with a Windows machine. How? The goal is to give that machine full access to these drives so I can scan/retrieve files. Like I mainly just need a path and guide.
[10:51] <Shogoot> Hi People. Im trying to via crontab scp a directory from a windows server with ssh to a linuc machine. I keep getting a error where the wind directory sturcture trows a error. "Sink: scp: E:\Pub\FagForb_Sekk\*: No such file or directory" - I dont se the error. command is as follows. sshpass -p "XXX" scp -r -v User100@192.168.xxx.xxx:E:\\Pub\\User100\\* var/www/html/extern/pages/SAPapp/HM_FILER/192.168.xxx.xxx/User100
[10:52] <akik> Mao: there's still one thing you could test https://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/systemd/PredictableNetworkInterfaceNames/ "ln -s /dev/null /etc/udev/rules.d/80-net-setup-link.rules"
[10:52] <lyze> Shogoot, use forward slashes
[10:53] <akik> Mao: and remove the 10-network.rules file as it didn't work
[10:53] <lyze> Or a single slash.
[10:54] <Mao> akik where i must add the line "ln -s /dev/null /etc/udev/rules.d/80-net-setup-link.rules"
[10:55] <rp2> Shogoot: can't you use rsync?
[10:55] <Shogoot> lyze, those two variatns are already explored, makes no diference
[10:55] <rp2> and a passwordless ssh key?
[10:55] <ratrace> ohcibi: First of all, I said disable notifications. Second of all, the workstations are maintained and updated by an ansible policy.
[10:55] <akik> Mao: oh sorry "sudo ln -s /dev/null /etc/udev/rules.d/80-net-setup-link.rules"
[10:55] <Shogoot> rp2, rsync from a windows server? is that possible?
[10:55] <akik> Mao: in the shell
[10:55] <rp2> yes
[10:56] <Shogoot> rp2, ill look into that
[10:56] <rp2> e.g. Cygwin has rsync
[10:56] <Mao> akik done reboot ?
[10:56] <Shogoot> rp2, cygwin is not a option
[10:56] <rp2> I've run into permissions issues with it though
[10:56] <akik> Mao: yes
[10:56] <rp2> Shogoot, why not?
[10:56] <brahman> Anyone else notice the environment variable behaviour change between 12.04 and 14.04?
[10:56] <rp2> you'll need an rsync implementation
[10:57] <Braden`> VirtualBox Host OS:  Win 10, Guest OS:  Ubuntu 16.04.   I have a network adapter set up as NAT.  The guest OS (Ubuntu) cannot access the internet.  The firewall on the host is completely disabled.  Any thoughts?  Note:  I have a second VM, which is an exact copy of the other VM with the exact same network configuration, but it works just fine.  Any thoughts?
[10:59] <ZFS_> wrong network adapter?
[10:59] <brahman> A quick fix would be to add a script to /etc/profile.d/ but should the documentation be updated to reflect the changes?
[10:59] <Mao> akik nope :(
[10:59] <ZFS_> no, sorry that's just for bridged i think
[11:01] <Arpegio> mk
[11:02] <akik> Mao: do you have your installation media available? can you try booting the live session with net.ifnames=0 ?
[11:02] <Mao> akik do you mean to start from usb ?
[11:03] <akik> Mao: yes
[11:03] <Mao> yes i do have the usb but how i boot the live session with net.ifnames=0 ?
[11:03] <akik> Mao: when in the grub menu, add it to the kernel options
[11:04] <Mao> akik am afraid i dont get what you asking me to do sorry  for that :(
[11:06] <akik> Mao: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootOptions
[11:06] <akik> Mao: Changing the CD Boot Option Configuration Line
[11:07] <akik> Mao: there you can add kernel parameters that will then be active in the live session
[11:11] <Mao> akik well that will change the card names to wlan 0 and wlan 1 i did that before
[11:11] <akik> Mao: ok maybe you've found a bug that can be reported
[11:12] <akik> Mao: works in kernel 1, then update, doesn't work in kernel 2
[11:12] <Mao> and how to do that then ?
[11:14] <linuxuser> LOL
[11:14] <akik> Mao: can you reproduce the bug?
[11:15] <Mao> akik no i dont know yet how sorry i am using linux for only two weeks :)
[11:16] <akik> Mao: maybe then it would be better to wait a while and see if gets fixed :)
[11:16] <Mao> ok
[11:16] <akik> https://bugs.freedesktop.org/buglist.cgi?component=general&product=systemd
[11:35] <shubham__> can i ask for help related to java ?
[11:35] <shubham__> I'm new to HexChat
[11:36] <hateball> !help | shubham__
[11:39] <dchapman> !support | shubham__
[11:39] <fub> I am running Ubuntu 14.04 server. I added this line and made an apt-get update: deb http://dl.hhvm.com/ubuntu trusty main
[11:39] <Mao> akik sorry for torturing you for so long  but maybe could you tell me please what i should look for to install the previous kernel ?
[11:39] <shubham__> Reading Java SE Tutorial from Oracle site and making my first program of HelloWorldApp  and in the topic it say HelloWorld ignores the command-line argument like java Myapp arg1 arg2. What is that ??
[11:39] <fub> When doing this I can find this: Ign http://dl.hhvm.com trusty/main Translation-en
[11:39] <fub> apt-get install hhvm tells me the package can not be found. How can this be?
[11:39] <dchapman> shubham__: Try #java perhaps?
[11:39] <fub> I know this package is in there
[11:39] <ducasse> shubham__: try in ##java
[11:40] <shubham__> how to join the #java channel ??
[11:40] <shubham__> New to HexChat
[11:40] <auronandace> shubham__: /join #nameofchannel
[11:41] <kisb>  /j #java
[11:41] <Fuchs> shubham__:   /join ##java
[11:41] <auronandace> shubham__: some channels might require you to have a registered nick
[11:41] <Fuchs> that one does, as it is +r
[11:41] <auronandace> !register | shubham__
[11:41] <akik> Mao: you can get the kernels from http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/
[11:42] <akik> Mao: get the packages linux-headers-xxxxxx-generic-xxxxxx_amd64.deb, linux-headers-xxxxxx_all.deb and linux-image-xxxxxx-generic-xxxxxx_amd64.deb if you want to go back in kernels
[11:42] <Mao> do you know maybe what was the original on 16.04 lts ?
[11:43] <akik> Mao: sorry i don't remember
[11:44] <lotuspsychje> !info linux-image-generic
[11:46] <dars> ubuntu hangs
[11:46] <dars> like windows
[11:47] <dars> if i open many tabs(~13) in chrome
[11:47] <lotuspsychje> dars: use less tabs and chromium-browser
[11:48] <dars> lotuspsychje, but it does not happen in 15.10
[11:49] <lotuspsychje> !details | dars
[11:49] <dars> ubottu , I myself don't know what is the reason of hang
[11:50] <lotuspsychje> dars: whats your ubuntu version?
[11:50] <dars> 16.04
[11:50] <lotuspsychje> dars: upgrade or clean install?
[11:50] <dars> it happens specifically when i resume from suspended mode
[11:50] <lotuspsychje> dars: try a higher kernel like 4.6
[11:51] <dars> how to use higher kernel
[11:51] <lotuspsychje> !mainline | dars
[11:51] <Masonn> Could someone explain 'building from source' in beginner terms for me?
[11:51] <lotuspsychje> !compile | Masonn
[11:52] <dars> lotuspsychje - human or bot
[11:52] <lotuspsychje> Masonn: before you compile, also check if the ubuntu repos dont have your package already
[11:54] <PaulePanter> Hi. How does unity handle backlight commands (ACPI events) when the keys on the laptop keyboard are pressed?
[11:57] <lotuspsychje> PaulePanter: can this help? http://askubuntu.com/questions/13886/how-to-light-up-back-lit-keyboard
[12:00] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
[12:06] <PaulePanter> lotuspsychje: Thank you for the response. But in this case it’s about the monitor backlight (LCD screen of laptop) and not the keyboard.
[12:08] <justatech> hey anyone knows any screerecorder which is directly viewable in gmail
[12:09] <n1md4> morning, ubuntu ! :)
[12:09] <brym> afternoon all. can anyone tell me how to bind mount a samba share please? i want to install and run vm's on my nas.
[12:09] <n1md4> so, will using rsync to copy an ecryptfs home directory from one drive to another work?
[12:13] <brym> anyone available?
[12:14] <BluesKaj> brym:  just ask your question
[12:14] <brym> already did, BluesKaj :)
[12:14] <iGeni> how can i fix this picture so it will boot normaly again, i repaired my virtualdirve but root doesnt seem to have a partition table now https://dpaste.de/OjGP
[12:14] <winsen> Hi all
[12:15] <winsen> does anyone know if I can run magicrescue under ubuntu live version? thanks
[12:15] <BluesKaj> brym:  doesn't nautilus have  networking ? I'm a kde guy myself and it's been a while :-)
[12:16] <lotuspsychje> justatech: kazam does screenrecording, but what do you mean with gmail?
[12:16] <Ben64> winsen: you can use photorec
[12:16] <aquiles> Testdisk
[12:17] <brym> BluesKaj: it does. and that works fine . as does traversing shares through terminal. but whenever i try to create a storage pool on the nas through virt-manager, it fails every time :/
[12:17] <aquiles> Scalpel
[12:17] <ducasse> brym: with what message?
[12:17] <pollaman_> assmfd
[12:17] <pollaman_> asd
[12:17] <pollaman_> as
[12:17] <pollaman_> d
[12:17] <pollaman_> asd
[12:17] <pollaman_> asd
[12:18] <BluesKaj> brym:  virtualbox?
[12:18] <brym> ducasse: error creating pool. could not build path.
[12:19] <brym> BluesKaj: virt-manager
[12:19] <iGeni> seem to have fixed that part with fdisk
[12:19] <ducasse> brym: what type of pool are you trying to build - dir?
[12:19] <iGeni> fsck i mean
[12:19] <brym> ducasse: that's right
[12:19] <ducasse> brym: and the share is already mounted?
[12:19] <brym> yep
[12:20] <ducasse> brym: check permissions. i think libvirt needs to be able to set the owner of the pool dir to kvm.libvirtd or something similar.
[12:21] <brym> ducasse: i've also gone ahead and created a dir in /media ready to mount -B, but that fails too. and i've already adduser'd my name to the libvirtd group. still no joy.
[12:23] <ducasse> brym: hmmm. why do you want to bind mount it?
[12:25] <brym> ducasse: i'm sure i read somewhere that a bind would be better for storage pools. if it's not, i'm happy to look in other directions. i'd just really like to stop using up my primary hdd as i'm short on space.
[12:26] <ducasse> brym: say tha nes is mounted on /nasshare, there is no problem in storing the images there directly. libvirt doesn't care where they are as long as it has permissions.
[12:26] <ducasse> *the nas :)
[12:27] <ducasse> brym: i'm storing some on a nfs export as a regular storage pool, no problems.
[12:27] <iGeni> omg!
[12:27] <iGeni> it was apparmor all the time
[12:28] <ducasse> brym: that should read 'dir storage pool'.
[12:28] <brym> ducasse: i've tried creating the pool using the path smb://path-to-sahre, but that's what fails. i've just  checked and i have nfs running on the share too, so i'm just going to try that route now through virt-manager...
[12:28] <brym> *path-to-share
[12:28] <ducasse> brym: no, just use /path/to/share, not smb://
[12:29] <ducasse> brym: you need to mount it somewhere.
[12:29] <Joselete> bhj
[12:29] <ducasse> brym: nfs is probably better, though, you will get better performance.
[12:29] <Joselete> l
[12:29] <Joselete> l
[12:32] <brym> ducasse: i tried the fully declared path, too. but that didn't work either. iirc, it was something like server=name,share=name
[12:33] <partyline> hi there can i ask someting
[12:34] <lotuspsychje> partyline: if its ubuntu related sure
[12:34] <ducasse> brym: hang on a sec.
[12:34] <partyline> i just install ubuntu mata can i get arch linux repo
[12:35] <bazhang> partyline, arch with ubuntu?
[12:35] <Nicholas1> how are u linuxuser?
[12:35] <lotuspsychje> partyline: why do you want to mix repos?
[12:35] <brym> Nicholas1,  by using Linux?
[12:35] <partyline> i like to user Yaourt
[12:36] <ducasse> brym: see this - https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/Fedora/18/html/Virtualization_Administration_Guide/sect-Virtualization-Storage_Pools-Creating-NFS.html
[12:38] <OerHeks> "Yaourt is a command line interface program which complete pacman"
[12:39] <ducasse> partyline: if you want arch repos and tools, use arch?
[12:40] <linuxuser> II am good nicholas
[12:40] <Nicholas1> good to hear
[12:41] <brym> ducasse: access denied by server :/
[12:41] <Nicholas1> brym what do u mean?
[12:41] <ducasse> brym: well, you need to allow your client access :)
[12:42] <brym> ducasse: following the link you just sent me. though my ui doesn't look the same as that, i tried both with the server ip and name as host, and /sharename as source. i must be overlooking something really daft to keep tripped at the very first step lol
[12:42] <brym> *tripping
[12:43] <brym> Nicholas1, you asked what makes a linux user, no?
[12:44] <ducasse> brym: the server (nas) needs to be configured to allow that client to mount the nfs share. i can't help you with that unless the nas is ubuntu-based.
[12:44] <brym> ducasse: it's not. wish it was though. this would probably be alot smoother. i'll keep bashing away at it. i'm sure i'll get it in the end, or go mad trying lol
[12:45] <ducasse> brym: it probably has a setiing in the web ui, read the documentation if there is any. it should be easy.
[12:46] <ducasse> *setting
[12:47] <brym> ducasse: yep, i've been alt-tabbing to it while we've been talking. i'll crack it, or it me. if i wanted to change the nas to ubuntu-based, i'd have nowhere to store the data already on there. and it's alot of data. sod's law, right.
[12:50] <ducasse> brym: typically for an nfs server, you just allow acces to your subnet - check your network settings for that. that's all i can help you with, i'm afraid :)
[12:52] <brym> ducasse: another error, though this is actually progress. i used the literal host name i called the server, and the source input provided me some dropdown options. selected my chosen share, and: Error creating pool: Could not start storage pool: unsupported configuration: expected exactly 1 host for the storage pool
[12:53] <brym> ducasse: same when i swap the literal host name for the ip :s
[12:55] <ducasse> brym: sorry, i've never seen that. it's probably easier to just mount the nfs share from /etc/fstab and create a normal dir pool.
[12:57] <TheSilentLink> hello how do you use the cat command to highlight words?
[12:58] <en1gmaa> i have a sata ssd with windows then 2 sata in a windows software raid. i have this single 40GB sata ssd but i use it external with a usb to sata adapter. do i need to disconnect my other 3 drives to make the bootloader only go on the single 40GB usb-sata cable when doing a fresh install of ubuntu 16.04? it seems like whenever ubuntu gets done installing it always wants to move the bootloader
[12:58] <en1gmaa> to another drive and i dont want it to mess up my already installed drives
[12:59] <brym> ducasse: i'd be happy to if that's easier. could you point me in the right direction please? i've never seen this error before either, but virt-manager has at least spotted my server. that's further than it's gotte never before.
[12:59] <brym> *gotten
[12:59] <LaserAllan> hey guys, I need to create a custom VMWare ESXI ISO and so I am thinking to use Vitualbox real quick to install Windows in it and hten creat the ISO, is this easily done? (Ive used Virtualbox on FreeNAS and ive had problems like the VM getting its own WAN ip for some reason)
[13:00] <OerHeks> en1gmaa, during install, you get a choise where to put the bootloader, sda ( standard ) but you want it on the 4th drive.. that can be done. make sure you set your bios to the 4th hdd/ssd
[13:00] <ducasse> brym: you create a line in fstab that looks like this - 'server:/share /mountpoint nfs defaults,_netdev 0 0'
[13:01] <en1gmaa> OerHeks but when ubuntu does its updates it seems like when it auto updates it moves the bl to another drive
[13:02] <OerHeks> en1gmaa, never seen updates do that
[13:02] <en1gmaa> ok. i gonna try and do an install but it seems like i always have problems and i just did a fresh install of windows and dont want to mess it up
[13:03] <en1gmaa> i gonna try and do it. think i gonna disconnect my other drives though.
[13:04] <ducasse> brym: the nas/server *needs* to be configured to allow the client to mount that share first, though.
[13:05] <brym> ducasse: from the web ui, it only offers me the opportunity to add ip's.
[13:06] <brym> ducasse: re nfs, at least
[13:06] <TheSilentLink> hello how do you use the cat command to highlight words?
[13:06] <ducasse> brym: for clients?
[13:06] <EriC^^> TheSilentLink: what's your end goal?
[13:06] <TheSilentLink> EriC^^: to highlight words in a text file
[13:07] <Hanumaan> I get the following error when I try to update what is the problem? http://paste.ubuntu.com/16374892/
[13:07] <iwhb4u> i've just installed ubuntu, how do i install google drive?
[13:07] <EriC^^> TheSilentLink: less /path/to/file
[13:07] <EriC^^> TheSilentLink: and type "/word" and it should highlight it, and n takes you to the next match
[13:08] <lotuspsychje> Hanumaan: added external ppa's?
[13:08] <sda9> Hi people. One question about Ubuntu's installation process. Why doesn't the installer ask if I want to send installation reports? Does it send them automatically? The Debian installer always asks
[13:08] <TheSilentLink> EriC^^: /word followed my the word a want
[13:08] <EriC^^> no /wordyouwant
[13:08] <Hanumaan> lotuspsychje, yes but not sure which one is giving the problem ..
[13:08] <TheSilentLink> EriC^^: o ok
[13:09] <lotuspsychje> Hanumaan: we dont support ppa's sorry, remove all non-official ones from your system
[13:09] <brym> ducasse: yes, only able to add ip addresses to the  nfs permissions list
[13:09] <lotuspsychje> !ppapurge | Hanumaan
[13:09] <ducasse> brym: just enter the ip address of your client, and it should be fine. you probably want your client to have a static address, though.
[13:10] <ducasse> brym: you sure you cant use cidr syntax?
[13:10] <TheSilentLink> EriC^^: thanks but it says I need to use cat: Use the cat command, suitably modified, to:
[13:10] <TheSilentLink> (i) show the contents of mynametextfile, with every occurrence of a particular word, chosen
[13:10] <TheSilentLink> by you, highlighted
[13:10] <EriC^^> first thing you need to do is "man cat" then
[13:10] <brym> ducasse: already added my ip. and not sure what that syntax is, so off to google :)
[13:11] <cfhowlett> iwhb4u, google has not released a Gdrive client
[13:11] <ducasse> brym: 192.168.0-0/24, for example, represents a subnet
[13:11] <EriC^^> TheSilentLink: are you supposed to use pipes?
[13:11] <TheSilentLink> EriC^^:  it doesn't say...
[13:12] <EriC^^> TheSilentLink: i honestly dont think cat is capable of that alone
[13:12] <EriC^^> try ##linux
[13:12] <brym> ducasse: you know, i think this may be where the problem lies. i'm on 192..., the nas is on 169. but virt-manager still sees it well enough to offer me the share name in the source drop down
[13:12] <lotuspsychje> TheSilentLink: does your text allow syntax highlighting?
[13:12] <EriC^^> TheSilentLink: maybe they meant "grep" ?
[13:13] <lotuspsychje> TheSilentLink: colortail or vim-gtk could help perhaps
[13:13] <TheSilentLink> lotuspsychje:  its just a txt file so idk
[13:13] <ducasse> brym: shouldn't matter, just give it the ip of your client.
[13:13] <ducasse> TheSilentLink: you need grep.
[13:13] <brym> i need a coffee lol
[13:13] <TheSilentLink> ducasse: I have grep installed
[13:14] <ducasse> TheSilentLink: yes, pipe the output through it with the right option.
[13:14] <EriC^^> TheSilentLink: if you want to do it with grep, then grep -E "^|word"
[13:14] <EriC^^> cat /file | grep -E "^|word" if you insist on using cat with it
[13:15] <TheSilentLink> EriC^^: thanks
[13:15] <EriC^^> grep -E "^|word" /path/to/file would be nice and clean though
[13:16] <EriC^^> TheSilentLink: no problem
[13:16] <TheSilentLink> EriC^^: yea but it says I need to use cat lol
[13:17] <akik> TheSilentLink: you can't highlight words with only cat
[13:19] <TheSilentLink> akik: yea it says to modify it
[13:19] <EriC^^> it's still stupid
[13:19] <EriC^^> people get shot for doing cat | grep
[13:20] <EriC^^> i think whoever wrote that meant to say use grep, modified ...
[13:21] <ztane> were some dsa keys disabled in openssh for xenial?
[13:21] <zykotick9> EriC^^: "people get shot for doing cat | grep" <- that's a _little_ extreme isn't it?  ;)
[13:21] <EriC^^> zykotick9: /join ##bash or ##linux
[13:21] <EriC^^> and you will see  :P
[13:22] <zykotick9> ;) /me is familiar with ##bash
[13:22] <EriC^^> in ##c you and your entire family are executed
[13:22] <EriC^^> zykotick9: parsing ls in ##bash will definitely do it there
[13:23] <ztane> EriC^^: ##c is rather backwards. First you're executed, then forked, and if you make a mistake, you're aborted.
[13:23] <EriC^^> lol
[13:24] <ducasse> cat abuse is bad.
[13:24] <cfhowlett> against the law, too.
[13:25] <ztane> american humane association could have something to say about it
[13:28] <justatech> lotuspsychje when i need to send the deskktop recorded video into gmail  it should open in gmail directly
[13:31] <lotuspsychje> justatech: you mean the filetype playing in gmail?
[13:31] <SpacePenguin> is there a way to install ubuntu server without a user account, only root?
[13:31] <SpacePenguin> i can't find that option in the installer...
[13:31] <justatech> lotuspsychje exactly
[13:32] <cfhowlett> SpacePenguin, #ubuntu-server would know
[13:32] <SpacePenguin> cfhowlett: ok, thx
[13:33] <yacc_> Any idea what I can do if my builtin SDCard reader claims the SD is "out of space" after 8GB, but it can read 32GB of the SD fine, and other (but really slow USB) readers can write it fine?
[13:34] <lotuspsychje> justatech: lookup wich filetupes gmail plays by default then
[13:34] <justatech> then screen recorder should i use  in linux
[13:35] <ducasse> justatech: what's important is that the browser used supports the codec, i would think.
[13:39] <Nicholas1> linuxuser do u use ubuntu or other distros?
[13:40] <lotuspsychje> !discuss | Nicholas1
[13:40] <cfhowlett> Nicholas1, do not poll here.  this is ubuntu support.  we use ubuntu.
[13:42] <deezed> Hello! I'm having a problem with locales here. I cant use some accents here and my 'locale' output is saying that cannot set LC_CTYPE and others. Does anyone know what I can do?
[13:45] <Nicholas1> cfhowlett i sincerely apologize sir
[13:46] <Nicholas1> just asked him
[13:46] <cfhowlett> no worries, Nicholas1 .  ask your ubuntu support questions in this channel.
[13:46] <Nicholas1> got it
[13:50] <ub_ubuntu> ls
[13:50] <ub_ubuntu> ubottu: ls
[13:51] <cfhowlett> ub_ubuntu, ls is a terinal command and does not belong in irc.
[13:51] <ub_ubuntu> cfhowlett: Yea. I know
[13:52] <ub_ubuntu> Bye
[13:53] <ub_ubuntu> shutdown button has disappeared.. What to do
[13:54] <BluesKaj> sudo poweroff in the terminal, ubottu
[13:55] <BluesKaj> oops
[13:55] <ztane> upgraded from 14.04
[13:56] <ztane> to 16.04
[13:56] <ztane> now mysql-5.7 was there and was not upgraded / removed / anything at all
[13:56] <ztane> I just want it gone, I do not need any mysql whatsoever
[13:56] <ztane> however sudo apt-get remove mysql-server-5.7: I get initctl: Unable to connect to Upstart: Failed to connect to socket /com/ubuntu/upstart: Connection refused
[13:57] <ztane> and so on, and the ¤#"%!¤#"!"¤# mysql package is not removed
[13:58] <ztane> ah finally
[13:59] <lotuspsychje> ztane: its not recommended yet to upgrade from 14.04
[13:59] <lotuspsychje> !ltsupgrade | ztane
[14:08] <uruk> hello , i have ubuntu 15.10 and compizconfig settings manager and plugins extra for option wallpaper i go on step to step the tutorials but i cannot to change different backgrounds for different workspaces, can you help me?
[14:10] <OerHeks> uruk, maybe this page is any help http://ubuntuguide.net/ubuntu-15-04-different-wallpaper-each-workspace
[14:10] <OerHeks> 15,04 .. but should work for 15.10 too
[14:12] <uruk> Oerheks i know this tutorial and not work
[14:12] <OerHeks> uruk, oh oke, i'll remember that.
[14:13] <OerHeks> uruk, i didn't want to advise you to add some ppa like on this page http://www.webupd8.org/2015/05/set-different-wallpapers-for-each.html
[14:14] <MoonBurst> Is there a way to find out what drivers I might need for my speakers? Since they won't work, but my headphones will. The headphones just get uncomfortable
[14:17] <uruk> oerheks Unity LauncherSwitcher work it?
[14:18] <OerHeks> uruk, not tested myself
[14:18] <HoloIRCUser3> Hello everyone
[14:18] <uruk> ok i tested now
[14:20] <roo79x>  hi all I have a problem with my dell latitude e5410 laptop. Every time I reboot or the screen goes blank (sleep) it gets lines across it and a high pitched squeal from the display? it only happens with ubuntu distros nothing else? can someone please advise me
[14:22] <HoloIRCUser3> Need help with my network. Running ubuntu on a raspberry pi as a repeater.. So i have internet coming in from modem to router set to assign dhcp addresses to all clients. And i have a pi connected to this router by wifi. Next i am sharing my wifi internet connection on my pi over ethernet to another router. Now i need to figure out how to configure it so both routers are on the same network
[14:23] <pOY> what version are you running and any other drivers installed? sorry I can't help but some extra info would help others solve the issue
[14:23] <uruk> oerheks lswitcher not workit
[14:29] <debug0x1> Almost got WoW and SC2 to work on ubuntu!
[14:29] <debug0x1> Almost.
[14:29] <brunch875> SC2 works flawlessly!
[14:30] <lotuspsychje> !arm | HoloIRCUser3
[14:30] <lotuspsychje> roo79x: wich ubuntu version and graphics card chipset please?
[14:31] <HoloIRCUser3> ubottu, it wouldnt matter what architecture it is. The networking is all the same
[14:33] <roo79x> current ubuntu is xubuntu 16.04 but has done it with all ubuntu versions only. lapptop has intel core i5 and graphics i'm not sure lol
[14:33] <lotuspsychje> roo79x: sudo lshw -C video
[14:33] <lotuspsychje> roo79x: check also wich driver=
[14:34] <qinusty> Can anyone point me in the direction of a possible fix to my problem? Every time my system goes into suspend it reboots when it attempts to resume.
[14:35] <lotuspsychje> qinusty: wich ubuntu version is that?
[14:35] <qinusty> 15.04 but kernel 4.4.8 because I had to go to 4.4 due to my broadcom wifi chip
[14:36] <roo79x> description: VGA compatible controller product: Core Processor Integrated Graphics Controller driver=i915
[14:36] <lotuspsychje> qinusty: 15.04 is end of life
[14:36] <teward> !15.04 | qinusty
[14:36] <lotuspsychje> qinusty: please install a supported version from the topic
[14:37] <lotuspsychje> roo79x: nomodeset have this lines in your screen also?
[14:37] <roo79x> never heard of it
[14:38] <lotuspsychje> !nomodeset | roo79x
[14:38] <roo79x> just reading this https://electronics.stackexchange.com/questions/178818/why-does-my-lcd-screen-emit-sound-when-displaying-black-and-white-lines
[14:39] <debug0x1> brunch875: It lagged me out.
[14:39] <debug0x1> So i don't know what to do there, and WoW works but won't connect.
[14:39] <debug0x1> So have to figure that out...
[14:40] <hidden> don't know why but my password didn't work when i installed ubuntu-server on virtualbox (loaded in ubuntu 16.04)
[14:40] <hidden> any alternatives you know for virtualbox?
[14:40] <hidden> easy to use
[14:40] <tgm4883> hidden: kvm
[14:41] <roo79x> brb rebooting
[14:41] <tgm4883> hidden: but if you're familiar with virtualbox why not just keep using that
[14:41] <hidden> tgm4883, don't know why it didn't work
[14:41] <hidden> the password i used on setup
[14:42] <tgm4883> hidden: so you're abandoning it completely instead of just resetting the password?
[14:42] <hidden> tgm4883, no idea how to reset password
[14:42] <hidden> might have to reinstall
[14:42] <tgm4883> !password
[14:43] <hidden> too confusing
[14:43] <brunch875> debug0x1: Ah yes, I suppose... Lowering graphics should help a lot. Either way, wine is getting a lot of progress done on game performance.
[14:44] <tgm4883> hidden: it's too confusing to select recovery mode from grub, select the shell, then type 'passwd <username>'
[14:44] <hidden> i'm in recovery mode
[14:44] <tgm4883> If 3 steps are too confusing, then please ignore my recommendation of kvm
[14:44] <hidden> confused because i didn't believe it would be so easy to change ubuntus root password lol
[14:45] <tgm4883> hidden: why wouldn't it. You have physical access...
[14:45] <\9> ubuntu doesn't use a root password
[14:45] <hidden> "drop to root shell prompt"
[14:45] <hidden> should i click that
[14:45] <\9> yea
[14:45] <tgm4883> hidden: yes
[14:45] <zykotick9> ^ why using FDE encryption is important on portable computers...
[14:45] <\9> you first need to remount the filesystem using read/write because by default it's mounted read-only
[14:45] <tgm4883> zykotick9: +1
[14:46] <tgm4883> \9: +1 too, forgot about that
[14:46] <tgm4883> (although it is explained in the page)
[14:46] <\9> i don't know how to do that in the menus but in terminal you can do: mount -o remount,rw /
[14:46] <tgm4883> \9: you don't do it in the menus. You drop to shell first
[14:47] <\9> ah the menus don't have it at all
[14:48] <hidden> says "authentication token manipulation error" tgm4883
[14:48] <hidden> password unchanged
[14:49] <tgm4883> hidden: did you remount as rw?
[14:49] <hidden> don't think so, i'll check the instructions
[14:49] <tgm4883> hidden: mount -o remount,rw /
[14:49] <tgm4883> per \9 above
[14:49] <dbz2k> does anyone know to how to make a bash script that runs ncmpcpp , and mopidy
[14:50] <dbz2k> together
[14:51] <curlyears> good mornin
[14:51] <hidden> ok thanks worked now
[14:51] <OerHeks> dbz2k, #bash might be a good start
[14:51] <OerHeks> hey curlyears
[14:51] <OerHeks> curlyears, how did the test w/h hdd go?
[14:52] <craptalk_> anyone here?
[14:52] <lotuspsychje> craptalk_: 1900 users
[14:52] <curlyears> OK, last night I ran my 16.04 instal iso, nd chose to install to a usb thumb.  It installed without errors (though it took quite a whikle to finmish, I guess USB thumbs are sloer than modern  HDDs)
[14:52] <brunch875> Yes, this is pretty active
[14:52] <dbz2k> OerHeks, mopidy is running as service in terminal so I couldn't type another command in that terminal window while it running?
[14:52] <craptalk_> ahahah alright
[14:53] <dbz2k> OerHeks, how do I make a bash script for that
[14:53] <craptalk_> anyone heard about ReactOS, is it pretty stable ubuntu version?
[14:53] <sebsebseb> hi
[14:53] <lotuspsychje> !ot | craptalk_
[14:53] <craptalk_> i heard that it is included windows App there?
[14:53] <curlyears> so why is it erroring out when I try to install to what, by all known information, is a functioning 3TB HDD (which has seen multiple sucessfukl installs up til now, and was brand new last August)
[14:54] <lotuspsychje> craptalk_: dont discuss here please
[14:54] <brym> ducasse: you still about?
[14:54] <craptalk_> lotuspsychje: can we alone?
[14:54] <lotuspsychje> craptalk_: use #ubuntu-offtopic or #ubuntu-discuss
[14:54] <auronandace> curlyears: are you using a gpt partition scheme or a msdos one?
[14:54] <craptalk_> lotuspsychje: nice
[14:55] <curlyears> auronandace: gpt
[14:56] <curlyears> the system appeared to be ruinning fine onn it, when m,y mekyboard and moouse lockeed up.  Upon retarting the machine, I determined the USZB ports on the rerar panel were not functioning correctly.  Pluggeedd into ports on front panel, and tried to boot, no joy, but the kb and mouse were working again, anyway.
[14:56] <shaif> hii , I'm unable to install     libkf5archive-dev  package in ubuntu 14.04  LTS.. any idea why???
[14:58] <ducasse> brym: more or less :)
[14:58] <curlyears> I finally got into parteed (or gparted, probab,y) and found my root partition has automatically translated itself in one largwe block of freespace.  I have repartitioned it, recreating ghe root dir /, and I still can install anythiung
[14:58] <DaniKitten> How do I boot into text mode on Ubuntu 14.04
[14:58] <brym> ducasse: good man, wanted to thank you for your help earlier. i've been able to create a storage pool using nfs after some fiddling around.
[14:59] <ducasse> brym: good, glad you got it working :) i'm here most days if you get any other problems :)
[14:59] <shaif> ??
[14:59] <curlyears> system complains during bootup sequence that something called MoklistRT is missing, and drops me to a grub (rescue) prompmt
[14:59] <DaniKitten> How do I boot into text mode on Ubuntu 14.04?
[14:59] <curlyears> '/end of story
[15:00] <brym> ducasse: so thank you! but (because there's always a but lol), it now complains about not being permitted to create vm's. never rains but it poors, ey.
[15:00] <curlyears> why do you want to boot to text mode?
[15:00] <lotuspsychje> DaniKitten: change "quiet splash" to ""
[15:00] <lotuspsychje> DaniKitten: then update-grub after and reboot
[15:01] <DaniKitten> curlyears, because I want to feel the pure linux
[15:01] <DaniKitten> Unix, without GUI, but I want the network
[15:01] <ducasse> brym: that's probably the permissions problem i talked about earlier. can you create files inside the pool as your userid?
[15:01] <curlyears> Danikitten:  just let it boot normally, and open a term session, pure cli
[15:02] <auronandace> DaniKitten: why didn't you opt for the server version then?
[15:02] <DaniKitten> auronandace, Because I'm not a web server, just a home user who wants to go further
[15:03] <curlyears> server versions has sonme pretty strong restrictions on what it installs, default
[15:03] <brym> ducasse: yeah, i can now create volumes in the new pool fine from virt-manager's storage tab, and during the process of creating a new vm. but it trips at the final step.
[15:03] <auronandace> DaniKitten: there is also a mini version if you don't want any gui at all
[15:03] <DaniKitten> Well, would be a good idea to check it later :)
[15:04] <curlyears> auronandace: or, she cab boot to the gui, open a term sesssion, and have a perfectly normal CLI session, with network services completely available
[15:04] <DaniKitten> Thanks
[15:05] <DaniKitten> I'll change that grub file from "quiet splash" to "text"
[15:05] <brym> ducasse: i'v echecked the permissions using ls -l, but (thinking about it) i haven't checked the virt conf yet.. off to make sure there's a user entry there quick. there wasn't previously.
[15:05] <curlyears> DaniKitten: it is trivially easy to drop out og gui and into cli
[15:05] <ducasse> brym: hmmm. it could be related to bug 1393842 on lp, take a look to see if it matches what you see.
[15:06] <ducasse> brym: it comes up again every now and then.
[15:07] <curlyears> no  one has any comments on my 16.04 booting problem?
[15:07] <lotuspsychje> curlyears: where is your detailed question?
[15:08] <curlyears> lotuspsychje: the first 5 or 6 lines I posted on entranxce
[15:08] <ducasse> brym: but first try to to 'touch' a new file inside the storage pool.
[15:08] <lotuspsychje> curlyears: new volunteers that join, dont know this.. re-ask once in a while
[15:08] <brym> ducasse: hmm, i did see mkdir using -p on a website earlier, when creating the local dir to mount the share to. but i skipped that as i'd already created the dir. but without the -p switch. i'll give this a go.
[15:08] <curlyears> I can't seem to boot to or install to my current 3TB / filesystem
[15:09] <curlyears> the problem surfaced when I was resolving  my USB port issue.
[15:09] <brym> ducasse: touch'd fine
[15:09] <curlyears> which makes me more than suspect that they are related, somehow
[15:10] <ducasse> brym: -p creates not existing dirs in the path, so you can create several in one go.
[15:10] <brym> ducasse: ok. so i'm stuck again then lol
[15:10] <brym> ducasse: for now
[15:11] <ducasse> brym: can you pastebin the *complete* error you get in the final step?
[15:11] <brym> ducasse: yeah...
[15:11] <curlyears> I wish I could pastebin my atmpted installation )-:\
[15:13] <curlyears> can anyone even tell me if this is an "ubuntu problem" or a "linux" problem?
[15:13] <lotuspsychje> curlyears: how are we suppoed to debug this without details?
[15:13] <lotuspsychje> !details | curlyears
[15:14] <ducasse> curlyears: is it the moklist thing you're struggling with?
[15:14] <curlyears> lotuspsychje: my first 6 posts when I came on channel offered all sorts odf details, I don't think most wouold appreceiate it if I repeated them ecvery so often (they were quite long)
[15:15] <curlyears> ducasse:  yes, MoklistRT
[15:15] <linuxuser> Lol
[15:15] <brym> ducasse: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/16376124/
[15:15] <lotuspsychje> curlyears: try 1 post, all in 1 line with short, but detailed question,steps,ubuntu versions etc
[15:15] <curlyears> at least, that is the main symptom, ducasse
[15:15] <ducasse> curlyears: the mok manager is started when there is a problem with your secure boot certs. try disabling secure boot.
[15:17] <ducasse> brym: ok, let's try an ugly hack for a test: 'sudo chmod 777 /media/nas'
[15:17] <brym> ducasse: hmm, yep. definitely ugly
[15:18] <ducasse> brym: just a test :)
[15:18] <brym> ducasse: operation not permitted, lol
[15:18] <curlyears> everythiung involves 16.04.  rear panel USB ports failed.  Swapping to front paenel resolves issues, except a USB thuhmb drive inserted into one of the rear ports works correctly.  after resolving this, tried to reboot, with no success, got the "MoklistRT not found" error, got dropped to a "grub (rescue) " prompt.   Basically,
[15:19] <ducasse> brym: do you know what underlying file system the nas uses?
[15:19] <brym> ducasse: i'll try and find out. i ssh'ed into it once, but that was ages ago...
[15:20] <effectnet> whats this flash is not gonna be supported on linux?
[15:20] <ducasse> brym: i'm guessing you need to loosen up permissions on the nas side of things.
[15:20] <sebsebseb> effectnet: Adobe
[15:20] <sebsebseb> effectnet: Adobe have dropped support for their player, altough one version will have updates for a bit longer
[15:20] <tgm4883> effectnet: I thought it hasn't been supported in years
[15:20] <curlyears> I used DVD to get to gparted, and disvcovered my '/' partitiuon had been remark3ed as "freee space" so I changed that, reaserting the "/" partition, and tried to boot into install mode.  Now it gives me the "MoklistRT" error after I select "install" from the TEXT menu  "Test run , Instaii, OEM install, check disc for error"
[15:21] <effectnet> oh
[15:21] <sebsebseb> effectnet: however there are other ways that can have Flash
[15:21] <tgm4883> flash needs to die
[15:21] <sebsebseb> tgm4883: indeed
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[15:21] <sebsebseb> tgm4883: altough in some ways it's still better than alternatives or apparnatly hmm, but I think for video it  can die already :)
[15:22] <lotuspsychje> curlyears: did you try what ducasse suggested you?
[15:22] <curlyears> there's a lot of content suppliers who still expect flash support in their clients
[15:23] <curlyears> I didn't see what he suggested, I must hav ebeen too busy typing
[15:23] <ducasse> curlyears: disable secure boot.
[15:23] <auronandace> curlyears: yet you caught the discussion on flash..
[15:23] <Eldon1> lol it is funny you are talking about flash as I'm wrestling with a flash microphone issue
[15:24] <lotuspsychje> Eldon1: whats going on mate?
[15:24] <sebsebseb> yeah Digital Rights Management doenst work so well with the alternatives so that's one use for Flash
[15:24] <sebsebseb> content providers
[15:24] <curlyears> I am not, to my knowledgeusomg secure boot.  How do I disable it?
[15:24] <Eldon1> just no settings button to click, it is greyed out :/
[15:24] <lotuspsychje> !uefi | curlyears
[15:24] <curlyears> auronandace: yes, I had finished typing by then
[15:24] <tgm4883> sebsebseb: what about html5
[15:24] <Eldon1> Not a whole lot, working on my son's school lessons for the day but this recording issue is stumping me.
[15:25] <sebsebseb> tgm4883: that's what I mean, I don't think DRM can be done or as such or as easilly with HTML 5?
[15:25] <tgm4883> sebsebseb: err, you might want to check with HBO and Netflix then
[15:25] <curlyears> lotuspsychje: went all through the eufi mess with k1l.  I have double checked, it is selected in my BIOS startup
[15:25] <ducasse> curlyears: should be a setting in your machines firmware, but it can be well hidden. look under security.
[15:25] <Eldon1> They have to read certain excerpts and record it on the virtual school's site. It worked the other day but yea, today is just a bugger :P
[15:25] <tgm4883> since both have DRM on their HTML5 content
[15:25] <sebsebseb> oh
[15:26] <lotuspsychje> Eldon1: try chromium-browser + pepperflash or firefox + freshplayer
[15:26] <brym> ducasse: underlying os is readynasos. based on linux, i believe. but i don't know which distro.
[15:26] <curlyears> back in a few (this 16.04 Live-DVD boot takes a while)
[15:26] <Eldon1> yea, i'll give it a go. The bugger is it was working yesterday! heh
[15:26] <lotuspsychje> Eldon1: wich ubuntu version would you haveN
[15:27] <tgm4883> brym: debian I believe
[15:27] <Eldon1> ubuntu-gnome
[15:27] <lotuspsychje> Eldon1: and version?
[15:27] <tgm4883> unless they changed it in the last few yeares
[15:27] <Eldon1> sorry 16.04
[15:27] <lotuspsychje> Eldon1: system up to date to latest?
[15:27] <ducasse> brym: doesn't really matter. you will probably need to loosen up access on the nas side of things.
[15:27] <Eldon1> let me grab chrome and see what I get
[15:27] <Eldon1> yup
[15:27] <lotuspsychje> Eldon1: ok, ubuntu-restricted-extras installed also?
[15:28] <Eldon1> I think so, but let me double check
[15:28] <Eldon1> yup
[15:29] <lotuspsychje> Eldon1: ok, go for the chromium :p
[15:30] <Eldon1> yea, installing now
[15:30] <Eldon1> *crosses fingers*
[15:30] <lotuspsychje> !info pepperflashplugin-nonfree | Eldon1 also
[15:32] <BrAsS_mOnKeY> i typed apt update and it gave me 11 updates but how do i update it individually
[15:32] <BrAsS_mOnKeY> from apt list --upgradable
[15:32] <BrAsS_mOnKeY> oh i think i see how
[15:33] <lotuspsychje> BrAsS_mOnKeY: its recommended to upgrade always to latest
[15:33] <lotuspsychje> BrAsS_mOnKeY: not just 1 package
[15:33] <BrAsS_mOnKeY> yeah but i dont see how to do them all so I must do individually
[15:34] <lotuspsychje> BrAsS_mOnKeY: sudo apt upgrade
[15:34] <BrAsS_mOnKeY> I did that
[15:34] <BrAsS_mOnKeY> it looked like it updated system
[15:35] <BrAsS_mOnKeY> but it says 11 packages can be upgraqded
[15:35] <BrAsS_mOnKeY> upgraded*
[15:35] <lotuspsychje> BrAsS_mOnKeY: yes, sudo apt upgrade should handle that normally
[15:36] <lotuspsychje> BrAsS_mOnKeY: getting errors of any kind?
[15:36] <BrAsS_mOnKeY> one of them is file-roller so I guess I would type sudo apt install file-roller
[15:36] <BrAsS_mOnKeY> to install.
[15:36] <BrAsS_mOnKeY> no.
[15:36] <BrAsS_mOnKeY> says sudo can be upgraded
[15:36] <BrAsS_mOnKeY> so i should just reinstall it to upgrade it?
[15:36] <lotuspsychje> BrAsS_mOnKeY: file-roller is already installed, you dont need to install again
[15:37] <BrAsS_mOnKeY> install to upgrade, i mean.
[15:37] <squinty> sudo apt full-upgrade
[15:37] <ducasse> BrAsS_mOnKeY: try apt full-upgrade
[15:37] <BrAsS_mOnKeY> ok
[15:37] <BrAsS_mOnKeY> but for future reference, how would i update individually?
[15:37] <BrAsS_mOnKeY> ty lotuspsychje, squinty, and ducasse.
[15:38] <ducasse> BrAsS_mOnKeY: apt upgrade packagename ?
[15:38] <BrAsS_mOnKeY> ok, thanks ducasse :D
[15:39] <BrAsS_mOnKeY> lol
[15:39] <lotuspsychje> BrAsS_mOnKeY: any reason you want them updated single?
[15:40] <BrAsS_mOnKeY> lotuspsychje, no.  it was just my initial thought for up grading since when I did sudo apt upgrade it didn't upgrade them.  But I i ran full-upgrade
[15:40] <BrAsS_mOnKeY> upgrading*
[15:41] <lotuspsychje> BrAsS_mOnKeY: ok, ubuntu-software also shows wich packages need upgrade
[15:41] <BrAsS_mOnKeY> ok, ty :)
[15:42] <curlyears> WEll,, folks, there do not appear to be any settings in my BIOS setup for "secure boot' at all
[15:42] <Eldon1> lotuspsychje: Chromium fixed it
[15:42] <lotuspsychje> !yay | Eldon1
[15:42] <Eldon1> indeed!
[15:42] <BrAsS_mOnKeY> how would i list packages installed ?
[15:42] <Eldon1> A bummer as I rather like FF personally
[15:43] <lotuspsychje> Eldon1: try freshplayer on firefox perhaps?
[15:43] <spw09> Hi all.  http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/l/linux/linux-headers-4.4.0-22_4.4.0-22.39_all.deb is returing HTTP 403 Forbidden
[15:43] <Eldon1> yea ill give that a go after class today, cheers for the suggestion
[15:43] <lotuspsychje> Eldon1: yw :p
[15:43] <lotuspsychje> spw09: wich ubuntu version are you on mate?
[15:43] <curlyears> lotuspsychje: no joy
[15:44] <spw09> lotuspsychje: 16.04
[15:44] <squinty> Eldon1, http://www.webupd8.org/2014/05/install-fresh-player-plugin-in-ubuntu.html
[15:44] <lotuspsychje> spw09: have you updated system to latest?
[15:44] <Eldon1> cheers squinty
[15:45] <BrAsS_mOnKeY> is there a way to list all packages on system?
[15:45] <ducasse> BrAsS_mOnKeY: 'dpkg -l | grep ^ii'
[15:45] <BrAsS_mOnKeY> O.O
[15:45] <lotuspsychje> curlyears: if your system is uefi, there must be fastboot and secureboot somewhere
[15:45] <debug0x1> Heh, winamp on ubuntu.
[15:46] <ducasse> BrAsS_mOnKeY: or apt-mark showauto/showmanual resp. for automatically and manually installed
[15:46] <lotuspsychje> spw09: try sudo apt update && sudo apt upgrade
[15:46] <explodes> Test :D
[15:46] <explodes> nice.
[15:46] <curlyears> lotus:  you can tell me that all day, all I know is I manually stepped throufgh every menu in BIOS Setup, and there ain't nothhun therre
[15:46] <brym> ducasse: ouch, big lock up and crash :z
[15:46] <spw09> lotuspsychje: Yep. If I visit that URL in a browser, the web server does that same thing. Takes about a minute to respond with 403
[15:46] <lotuspsychje> curlyears: you didnt see like uefi/legacy?
[15:46] <curlyears> where else would I find them?
[15:47] <lotuspsychje> spw09: that url grabs it fine here, your behind firewall/router?
[15:47] <ducasse> brym: of what?
[15:47] <Vonologic> Can someone help me diagnose why my bluetooth headphones keep disconnecting? My other BT devices work fine
[15:47] <brym> ducasse: desktop
[15:47] <kamal__> Hi all
[15:47] <ducasse> brym: when you did what?
[15:48] <brym> ducasse: but, success! the iso fired up and started installing. that was when it tanked.
[15:48] <curlyears> the only selection offered by my BIOS that is related to uefi is the opne that says it selectec legacy or efi drivers fo4 boot fropm a CD
[15:48] <curlyears> it is set to efi
[15:48] <BrAsS_mOnKeY> ty ducasse
[15:48] <lotuspsychje> curlyears: try legacy
[15:49] <brym> ducasse: i suspect because i have some underlying graphics issues; upgraded to 16.04 before .1 was released, so my card isn't yet supported.
[15:49] <ducasse> brym: odd. without an error message it's difficult to debug.
[15:49] <lotuspsychje> brym: did you upgrade from wily?
[15:49] <salty-horse> hi. I recently upgraded to xenial. now dvd's won't automount, and syslog gives I/O errors. however, mounting manually works. where can I check the automount settings? which component is responsible for that? my first guess is it's trying to mount with the wrong filesystem
[15:49] <curlyears> legacy doesn't work, went through that with k1l. We switched it to efi and fixed several problems unrelated to this one.
[15:50] <ducasse> brym: that could be it.
[15:50] <BrAsS_mOnKeY> ducasse, not sure the difference between manual and auto.. I didnt manually install all of those! :)
[15:50] <brym> ducasse: trusty. gonna spin it up again, but scale it, windowed this time. hopefully, it doesn't freak out
[15:50] <kamal__> Hi all, In ubuntu 14.4LTS wifi is too slow, any reason ?
[15:51] <ducasse> brym: the upgrade could have broken your install.
[15:51] <brym> sorry, lotuspsychje: trusty. but nevertheless. another crack at it...
[15:51] <lotuspsychje> brym: not yet recommended to upgrade from trusty yet
[15:51] <ducasse> BrAsS_mOnKeY: automatically installed packages are mostly dependencies of other packages.
[15:51] <brym> lotuspsychje: yep, i'm impatient sometimes :)
[15:52] <lotuspsychje> brym: perhaps test in a 16.04 liveusb?
[15:52] <curlyears> lotuspsychje:  legacy either  doesn't work, went through that with k1l. We switched it to efi and fixed several problems unrelated to this one.
[15:52] <brym> gotta play with the shiny's every now and then
[15:53] <lfrlucas> Hi, how can I restore my ubuntu server after installing kubuntu'desktop
[15:54] <lotuspsychje> curlyears: doesnt make sense you cant install ubuntu...
[15:54] <ducasse> brym: if you fail to get it working, consider a clean install. or at least test from live usb.
[15:54] <lfrlucas> I want to restore to original packages of ubuntu server
[15:54] <ducasse> curlyears: is your pc certified for any windows version? if so, which?
[15:54] <lotuspsychje> curlyears: something must block the ubuntu setup..
[15:54] <curlyears> apparently my system won't bopot from a USB Thumb.  the BIOS lists as possible boot devices: USB_HDD, USB-FD, USB-LS120 etc.  None of the resul;t in a boot fropm the thumb
[15:55] <lotuspsychje> curlyears: did you F12 to uefi boot your usb?
[15:55] <curlyears> ducssa:  I doubt it.  It was built from a barbones kit from TigerDirect
[15:56] <curlyears> \I need to  F12?
[15:56] <lotuspsychje> curlyears: you could try
[15:56] <philippA_> Hi Guys, getting a weired message:   Could NOT find CURL (missing: CURL_LIBRARY CURL_INCLUDE_DIR)   but latest version of curl is installed. Any idea?
[15:57] <curlyears> back again   ~"Whistle while you work, we whistlwe while we work"!~
[15:59] <ducasse> philippA_: you probably need one of the libcurl packages.
[15:59] <lotuspsychje> lfrlucas: try #ubuntu-server or the ubuntu recoverymode==>fix broken packages
[16:00] <brym> ducasse: ok, iso is installing. fingers crossed!
[16:01] <jay321> i d/l a deb pkg from launchpad.net, when trying to install said dependency problems, how can i find the other pkgs?
[16:02] <ducasse> jay321: use gdebi or 'apt install ./package.deb'
[16:03] <jay321> it is not on network
[16:04] <jay321> i am searching launchpad.net, and copying over the dependency deb packages
[16:04] <dax> both of those work with local files
[16:05] <OerHeks> jay321, use " apt-get install -f " to fix dependencies
[16:07] <EldonMcGuinness> lotuspsychje: Just seen a way to fix it in FF: http://www.macromedia.com/support/documentation/en/flashplayer/help/settings_manager06.html
[16:07] <jay321> it removed the package i was trying to install
[16:08] <EldonMcGuinness> If you go to that site you can tell it to always allow mic, video, etc on individual sites.
[16:08] <EldonMcGuinness> then refresh the page and it works
[16:09] <BrAsS_mOnKeY> i installed irssi
[16:09] <BrAsS_mOnKeY> i guess i just run it? :)
[16:09] <lotuspsychje> EldonMcGuinness: great you got it solved!
[16:09] <EldonMcGuinness> yup, a really odd issue though. I wonder why that settings box is greyed out.
[16:10] <lotuspsychje> EldonMcGuinness: probable some weird old adobe thing
[16:10] <EldonMcGuinness> It is sad that Adobe is still buggy on linux after all these years
[16:10] <BrAsS_mOnKeY> when i typed irssi it removed all my previous terminal text
[16:11] <lotuspsychje> BrAsS_mOnKeY: open a new terminal tab if you wish to do other tings
[16:11] <BrAsS_mOnKeY> ok
[16:11] <BrAsS_mOnKeY> was trying to fetch previous commands
[16:11] <BrAsS_mOnKeY> upkey
[16:12] <lotuspsychje> !manual | BrAsS_mOnKeY = interesting here
[16:12] <BrAsS_mOnKeY> and scroll up to see but it was gone. :)
[16:12] <BrAsS_mOnKeY> ty lotuspsychje :)
[16:13] <EldonMcGuinness> Now if I could just get ICQ to quit telling me about verifying my account today I will be happy! :D
[16:13] <BrAsS_mOnKeY> icq lol :)
[16:13] <EldonMcGuinness> I swear there are two insane koalas in charge at that place.
[16:13] <EldonMcGuinness> yea still have my old number from when I was a kid
[16:13] <BrAsS_mOnKeY> i remember that from 90s :D
[16:14] <BrAsS_mOnKeY> you must have a small number :D
[16:14] <EldonMcGuinness> 8 digits
[16:14] <BrAsS_mOnKeY> i remember when I added accounts, the number would be higher
[16:14] <BrAsS_mOnKeY> wow
[16:14] <BrAsS_mOnKeY> wonder if I can still use my old
[16:14] <BrAsS_mOnKeY> that'd be neat
[16:14] <EldonMcGuinness> yea heh
[16:15] <EldonMcGuinness> They keep IMing me telling me I need to add an SMS number to my account, but the only sms I have is google voice and it will not take the number.
[16:15] <EldonMcGuinness> I get about 8 IMs a day about it from them
[16:15] <BrAsS_mOnKeY> lol
[16:16] <BrAsS_mOnKeY> istnt it "uh oh" ?
[16:16] <BrAsS_mOnKeY> :D
[16:16] <EldonMcGuinness> I have emailed them OVER and OVER they just keep asking me for my provider name etc.
[16:16] <EldonMcGuinness> buffoons I tells ya
[16:16] <OerHeks> EldonMcGuinness, how is this related to ubuntu support?
[16:16] <ekool> exit
[16:16] <rantic> Hi everyone, with the introduction of ubuntu server 16.04, if I choose to setup a LAMP stack. What is the difference between install packages such as php, php-xml,php-gd and php7.0,php7.0-xml etc?
[16:16] <EldonMcGuinness> very true OerHeks, I'll shut up now :D
[16:16] <rantic> it appears the php package is already at php 7.x anyways
[16:17] <BrAsS_mOnKeY> too bad we can talk off topic D
[16:17] <BrAsS_mOnKeY> :D
[16:17] <OerHeks> rantic, more a Q for #ubuntu-server, or time to read the server docs
[16:17] <EldonMcGuinness> ill just there now
[16:17] <dax> BrAsS_mOnKeY: not here. This is support only.
[16:17] <BrAsS_mOnKeY> :D
[16:17] <BrAsS_mOnKeY> we can't*
[16:17] <OerHeks> https://help.ubuntu.com/lts/serverguide/
[16:17] <dax> rantic: php depends on the current-supported version of php, so php7.0
[16:17] <dax> rantic: i.e., there's no effective difference
[16:17] <k1l> rantic: they are metapackages and link to the same. they were different when php7 was not the standard
[16:17] <rantic> OerHeks: Alright thanks
[16:18] <rantic> dax: So if I installed php7.0 right now ... even if Ubuntu moved to php8, I'd still be grabbing updates (until they stop) for 7?
[16:18] <rantic> dax: Where as if I use php packages, I'll at some point automatically be upgraded to 8?
[16:18] <dax> rantic: until Ubuntu stops packaging it, yes
[16:18] <ice9> sometimes I get notification about "important software updates available...."  however I'm disabling automatic check for updates, so what's going on?
[16:18] <dax> rantic: yes
[16:18] <rantic> dax: Ah OK thanks, that makes sense
[16:19] <sebsebseb> rantic: dax uhmm not so sure
[16:19] <dax> sebsebseb: that's nice
[16:19] <sebsebseb> rantic: dax I think PHP 7 would stay as that, only security updates if anything
[16:19] <sebsebseb> rantic: dax later version of Ubuntu PHP 8
[16:19] <lotuspsychje> ice9: its how 16.04 notifies now
[16:19] <dax> sebsebseb: php7.0 will stay 7.0. php will not
[16:19] <dax> (which is what I just said)
[16:20] <ice9> lotuspsychje: so it force checking even if that option is disabled? that's abug
[16:20] <dax> unless you're talking about within releases, not between releases, which we're not
[16:20] <lotuspsychje> ice9: i dont think that would count as a bug, as the user is supposed to update at one time right
[16:21] <lotuspsychje> ice9: sudo apt update now also notifies there are new updates available
[16:25] <hubot__> how to run "curl" command when i am on windows?
[16:26] <freelancerbob> i have problem with flickering external monitor on my Thinkpad t430
[16:26] <freelancerbob> any help ?
[16:27] <freelancerbob> i am using lubuntu v16
[16:27] <tgm4883> hubot__: that sounds like a question for a windows room
[16:27] <sruli> i am trying to run a application in terminal and get an error "/usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libstdc++.so.6: version `GLIBCXX_3.4.20' not found" i checked and i do have libstdc++.so.6 installed, how can i resolve this?
[16:27] <hubot__> tgm4883: routed thanks
[16:27] <curlyears> \OK...  I'm thinking of ordering new M/B.  what do you guys think of this one:
[16:28] <freelancerbob> monitor works well with windows7 but not with lubuntu
[16:28] <curlyears> MSI 970 Gaming ATX Motherboard - AMD 970 Chipset, PCIe 2.0 x16, SATA III 6Gb/s, 8-Channel Audio, CrossFireX Ready, SLI Ready, Gigabit LAN
[16:28] <curlyears> sany comments or experience with this m/b?
[16:28] <lotuspsychje> curlyears: your gonna buy a new mobo because you cant find secureboot?
[16:28] <tgm4883> curlyears: seems like a lot of work for me to go look that up when you don't just post a link
[16:29] <k1l> curlyears: did you boot without hdd?
[16:29] <k1l> curlyears: did you try to boot without the secureboot feature in bios? and in legacy mode?
[16:29] <ducasse> curlyears: if the mobo is certified for windows 7, 8 or 8.1, it is a *requirement* that secure boot can be disabled.
[16:30] <curlyears> lotuspsychje: I called my local hardware tech,  We d4termined that it was likely a flakey M/B leading to all these ofdd problems.  It'd cosrt $60 for them to run an overnight diagnostic on it, and that's almmost the cost of a neww M/B
[16:31] <curlyears> and then, I have a quad core processor IJswapped with an 8 core unit, so I could mount that on the old motherboard, and begin building a slightly less meaty second computer around it, so it's not a total loss
[16:31] <lotuspsychje> curlyears: you built this machine yourself?
[16:31] <curlyears> lotuspsychje: yes, it's based on a barebones kit I bought from tigerdirect last August
[16:32] <tgm4883> curlyears: I've got the 970A-G46
[16:32] <curlyears> what isit?
[16:32] <tgm4883> not sure if that's what you are looking at or not
[16:32] <lotuspsychje> curlyears: i suggest you doublecheck everything over at ##hardware
[16:32] <freelancerbob> i have problem with flickering external monitor on my Thinkpad t430
[16:33] <lotuspsychje> freelancerbob: xrandr --auto does anything?
[16:33] <curlyears> tgm4883: MSI 970 GAMING ATX tgm4883:
[16:33] <hubot__> is there any way to use ssh from browser?
[16:33] <cabbage_hands> Is there a way to extract text from X11 GUIs?
[16:33] <freelancerbob> lotuspsychje: nothing still same
[16:34] <lotuspsychje> freelancerbob: is your external screen 'mirrored' in screen settings?
[16:34] <curlyears> lotuspsychje: how do you mean, "check everything?"  And I'm asking here to see if anyone has any experience or information about this system board
[16:35] <lotuspsychje> curlyears: this is ubuntu support here, not hardware discussion
[16:35] <lotuspsychje> curlyears: something blocks the install for ubuntu, you need to find why
[16:35] <curlyears> lotus:  yes, and I am asking of anyone has tried to run ubuntu on this MB...that is an ubuntu question, not a #hardware question\
[16:36] <freelancerbob> lotuspsychje: it was mirrored, now is not mirrored and still same
[16:36] <tgm4883> curlyears: first, wrong channel. Second, a quick google search suggests there is a problem (with a workaround) with the USB 3.0 ports and linux
[16:36] <hidden> E: Package 'php5-dev' has no installation candidate :/
[16:36] <curlyears> lotuspsychje: I spent 9 hours yesterday, and 4 hours so far today, TRYING to find what is blocking it, with no j oy
[16:36] <tgm4883> hidden: 16.04?
[16:36] <hidden> yeah
[16:37] <hidden> tgm4883
[16:37] <teward> hidden: what Ubuntu are you running?  If 16.04, it's php7.0-dev
[16:37] <lotuspsychje> freelancerbob: what kind of graphics card and driver version?
[16:37] <hidden> 16.04
[16:37] <tgm4883> hidden: 16.04 has php7
[16:37] <teward> hidden: php5 is no longer available, replaced by php7.0
[16:37] <hidden> ok thanks
[16:37] <ducasse> curlyears: i repeat: if the mobo is certified for windows 7, 8 or 8.1, it is a *requirement* that secure boot can be disabled.
[16:37] <curlyears> \I'm nnot using USB3 ports\
[16:37] <lotuspsychje> curlyears: you told us you cant boot from usb neither?
[16:38] <curlyears> ducasse:  wonderful.  And just how do I determine if this M/B carries such a certification?
[16:38] <ducasse> curlyears: look at the box, manual or manufacturers site.
[16:38] <curlyears> lotuspsychje: that is correct
[16:39] <lotuspsychje> curlyears: my bet would be wrong hardware built, or uefi blocking the usb install
[16:39] <BluesKaj> boot sequnce in the uefi/bios ?
[16:39] <ducasse> curlyears: many uefi implementations are buggy, you could look for an update.
[16:40] <squinty> http://www.ncix.com/detail/msi-970a-g46-atx-am3-970-57-67762-1257.htm    Cons No hard option to select  boot from an UEFI image or a MBR sector No Secure Boot Option
[16:40] <freelancerbob> lotuspsychje: 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 3rd Gen Core processor Graphics Controller (rev 09) (prog-if 00 [VGA controller])
[16:40] <lotuspsychje> i once saw 1 machine that have a weird intel blocking setting in bios that prevented install of ubuntu
[16:41] <freelancerbob> lotuspsychje: it is thinkpad t430.
[16:41] <lotuspsychje> freelancerbob: did this work on other ubuntu versions before?
[16:41] <tgm4883> squinty: that isn't the motherboard he's looking at
[16:41] <squinty> curlyears, ^^
[16:41] <Apocope> I'm trying to use Icinga under xenial. I install it and go to $SERVER/icinga and the menu on the left is visible and then disapears. Same thing if I do $SERVER/icinga/menu.html.
[16:41] <freelancerbob> lotuspsychje: i have not try , i installed newest version 16.0
[16:42] <lotuspsychje> freelancerbob: how is the second screen connected? vga/hdmi?
[16:42] <freelancerbob> lotuspsychje: vga
[16:43] <lotuspsychje> freelancerbob: can you try a tail -f /var/log/syslog and plug out/plug in your second screen?
[16:44] <lotuspsychje> Apocope: how did you install icinga? wich ubuntu version?
[16:44] <lotuspsychje> oh xenial nvm
[16:44] <squinty> tgm4883, <curlyears> tgm4883: MSI 970 GAMING ATX
[16:44] <tgm4883> squinty: which isn't what you posted
[16:45] <tgm4883> squinty: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813130790
[16:45] <Apocope> lotuspsychje: Yes, xenial. And I installed it via 'apt install icinga'
[16:45] <freelancerbob> lotuspsychje: still same
[16:46] <lotuspsychje> Apocope: perhaps the #icinga channel might know more on that error?
[16:46] <lotuspsychje> freelancerbob: getting any errors on the tail?
[16:47] <Apocope> lotuspsychje: I'll take a look.
[16:47] <curlyears> OK.  Nowhere in the /B manual is there any mention  o0f "certification for Windows" or any phrase which could be interoreted to mwean same.  So I would suppose it ISAN'T so certified
[16:47] <Hejkki> hola. I just started installing ubuntu-gnome 16.04 and it wont progress.... I used 'try ubuntu gnome' and from there i started the installation
[16:47] <lotuspsychje> Apocope: if its really xenial related, consider a !bug perhaps?
[16:47] <curlyears> \a\/B\M/B\
[16:48] <Hejkki> i am in the first stage where i will select wether i want to get updates during the setup
[16:48] <freelancerbob> lotuspsychje: only warnings
[16:48] <Hejkki> and i have push the continue button or whatever it is in finnish
[16:48] <lotuspsychje> freelancerbob: can you pastebin please?
[16:48] <Hejkki> can i somehow see what went wrong
[16:48] <Apocope> lotuspsychje: Yeah. I'll poke at it a bit to see if I can find where the error came from.
[16:49] <lotuspsychje> Apocope: great
[16:50] <ducasse> curlyears: actually, almost all mobos are certified. but are there any available firmware updates?
[16:50] <curlyears> be back in a bit
[16:51] <lotuspsychje> curlyears: you sure your sata cables are connected good?
[16:52] <freelancerbob> lotuspsychje: https://paste.ee/p/DQeoi
[16:52] <lotuspsychje> freelancerbob: ok, nothing screen related there, have you tried another vga cable?
[16:53] <freelancerbob> lotuspsychje: no, i tried another PC with windows 7 and it works fine
[16:54] <lotuspsychje> freelancerbob: ok, perhaps try the second screen in a liveusb as a test?
[16:54] <sudomarize> i've got a thinkpad x240, but it has terrible battery life. Any ideas what could be causing this? (~1.5 hours of constant use)
[16:54] <lotuspsychje> freelancerbob: perhaps something goes wrong with intel driver
[16:54] <rajiv1> what is the command to use p7zip?
[16:54] <freelancerbob> lotuspsychje: how i reinstall it ?
[16:54] <lotuspsychje> !info laptop-mode-tools | sudomarize
[16:55] <ducasse> rajiv1: 7z
[16:55] <lotuspsychje> freelancerbob: it should work by default really
[16:55] <sudomarize> lotuspsychje: what does it do exactly, and how much does it improve battery duration?
[16:56] <xangua> Improve Power Usage / Battery Life In Linux With TLP ~ Web Upd8: Ubuntu / Linux blog (http://www.webupd8.org/2013/04/improve-power-usage-battery-life-in.html?m=1) sudomarize
[16:56] <lotuspsychje> sudomarize: try for yourself, it can help some
[16:56] <freelancerbob> lotuspsychje: i will try restart brb
[16:56] <lotuspsychje> freelancerbob: ok
[16:56] <rajiv1> ducasse: thankyou:)
[16:57] <sudomarize> lotuspsychje: is this different from tlp?
[16:57] <sudomarize> tried tlp a while ago, although didn't notice a massive increase in battery time
[16:57] <lotuspsychje> sudomarize: you can try both
[16:57] <ducasse> rajiv1: np. i'm guessing un7z for decompression :)
[16:58] <lotuspsychje> sudomarize: another option is to deeper investigate why your battery drains so fast
[16:58] <lotuspsychje> sudomarize: try few ubuntu versions, higher kernels,etc
[16:58] <rajiv1> ducasse: np. i found help window after entering 7z.
[16:59] <ozberk> hi guys are there any alternatives for shotwell
[17:00] <ozberk> I hate it as a photographer
[17:00] <lotuspsychje> ozberk: you need a manager of photo editor?
[17:00] <lotuspsychje> or
[17:00] <ducasse> ozberk: digikam?
[17:00] <ozberk> lotuspsychje, accutaly I need both. It is too slow for importing
[17:00] <ozberk> ummm it is Ubuntu
[17:00] <k_dog345> Hey guys, I'm hoping someone can help me with my sound issues. I've already followed https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshootingProcedure to no avail.... help?
[17:01] <lotuspsychje> ozberk: krita is nice for editing
[17:01] <ozberk> ok I'll give a shot does it require for KDE ?
[17:02] <ducasse> ozberk: not kde, just some libraries.
[17:02] <ducasse> (ok, many libraries)
[17:03] <MindSpark> hey, I am trying to get an upstart job to run inside a docker container
[17:03] <lotuspsychje> !details | k_dog345
[17:03] <MindSpark> I have zero knowledge about upstart
[17:03] <MindSpark> but I just copied one of the files in /etc/init and adjusted it accordingly
[17:03] <lotuspsychje> !upstart | MindSpark
[17:04] <MindSpark> it it a php script that should be running in the background indefinitely
[17:04] <MindSpark> lotuspsychje, yes, I am having trouble getting that to run
[17:05] <tgm4883> MindSpark: your upstart container isn't 16.04 is it?
[17:05] <k_dog345> lotuspsychje here are my system details
[17:05] <k_dog345> http://pastebin.com/fyqjVd6v
[17:05] <MindSpark> tgm4883, what do you mean by upstart container? You mean docker container?
[17:05] <tgm4883> MindSpark: sorry, yes
[17:05] <k_dog345> As said, I followed https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshootingProcedure, I have pulseaudio
[17:06] <MindSpark> tgm4883, 14.04
[17:06] <MindSpark> why?
[17:06] <tgm4883> MindSpark: 16.04 doesn't use upstart. So what do the logs say when you try to start it?
[17:06] <k_dog345> lotuspsychje An important thing to mention is I had swapped computers using the same harddrive months ago, it has not worked since then
[17:06] <MindSpark> tgm4883, 16.04 doesn't use upstart? what does it use then?
[17:06] <tgm4883> MindSpark: systemd
[17:07] <lotuspsychje> k_dog345: you could try a sudo service pulseaudio restart
[17:07] <k_dog345> lotuspsychje I've done that many times, does not work
[17:07] <MindSpark> tgm4883, there doesn't seem to be anything in /var/log/upstart
[17:07] <lotuspsychje> k_dog345: when build a new system i would advise a new install
[17:08] <tgm4883> MindSpark: nothing in there? That's odd. You have permission to look in there?
[17:08] <lotuspsychje> k_dog345: perhaps try an ubuntu liveusb and see if your sound works there?
[17:08] <MindSpark> tgm4883, yes, I am root in the container
[17:08] <k_dog345> lotuspsychje I could not, as it would of destroyed my data. I'm on a work station :(
[17:08] <lotuspsychje> k_dog345: always backup your data :p
[17:08] <tgm4883> MindSpark: Does stuff start by upstart in docker?
[17:09] <tgm4883> I'm not super familiar with docker
[17:09] <MindSpark> tgm4883, I don't know. But I am guessing yes. Funny thing is initctl doesn't output anything
[17:09] <MindSpark> no matter what arguments you pass
[17:10] <gregf_> hello, im trying to install imagemagick on an ubuntu ec2 instance
[17:10] <tgm4883> MindSpark: this sounds like a questin for #docker
[17:10] <gregf_> and im just getting 404's :|
[17:10] <MindSpark> tgm4883, alright, thanks
[17:10] <freelancerbob> hey
[17:10] <freelancerbob> l0rdkermit:
[17:11] <k_dog345> lotuspsychje yes we did 10 times over lol, just getting this sound to work has been a nightmare
[17:11] <k_dog345> any other suggestions?
[17:11] <freelancerbob> lotuspsychje: i find out why is flickering
[17:12] <Yoanncooljazz> Is there a special irc group for ubuntuphone ?
[17:12] <lotuspsychje> freelancerbob: why?
[17:12] <k1l> !touch | Yoanncooljazz
[17:12] <freelancerbob> lotuspsychje: when adapter is plug in monitor is flickering
[17:13] <lotuspsychje> !yay | freelancerbob
[17:13] <freelancerbob> lotuspsychje: but i really do not know how to resolve it
[17:14] <freelancerbob> i have only mini display port on my laptop and VGA, VDi on monitor
[17:14] <freelancerbob> ubottu: thanks :)
[17:14] <tgm4883> freelancerbob: have you tried a different cable?
[17:14] <freelancerbob> tgm4883: no i do not, not have second one at home
[17:20] <k_dog345> lotuspsychje  I verified that my sound card is attached to the motherboard, but have not tried live usb
[17:23] <Guest57733> can anyone help me install software centre in ubuntu mate iam new to this
[17:23] <k_dog345> lotuspsychje Could I try through a VM? Or does it have to be live cd?
[17:23] <Guest57733> anyone please help?
[17:24] <Guest57733> i have installed it has dual boot with windows
[17:24] <ducasse> k_dog345: a vm would require that sound works on the host, use a live usb.
[17:25] <rp2> gregf_, ImageMagick doesn't generate any 404 as far as I'm aware
[17:25] <k_dog345> ducasse okay, ill be back
[17:25] <Gu1gZz> kn4
[17:25] <rp2> how do you get them?
[17:27] <Bashing-om> Guest57733: Software Cecter is installed by default . What release are you running, and what is the issue with SC ?
[17:31] <Welastevil> hi guys!
[17:32] <Welastevil> someone using ubuntu 16.04 lts?
[17:32] <k1l> Welastevil: some do
[17:32] <ducasse> Welastevil: many of us.
[17:32]  * BluesKaj shakes his head,  evil this evil that ....
[17:32] <Welastevil> ok...
[17:33] <Welastevil> I just installed it 2 days ago.
[17:33] <Welastevil> realise that it was slow...and I folowed some reomendations...
[17:34] <Welastevil> installing preload was the best of them
[17:35] <Welastevil> but...even f it had improve my system, my internet browser and some stuf are stil slow...
[17:35] <Welastevil> some sugestions?
[17:35] <Welastevil> I alredy did everything I found from google
[17:36] <k1l> Welastevil: if 16.04 is "slow" then 14.04 etc would be slow too. so what hardware is that?
[17:36] <k1l> maybe you should take a look at a more lightweight version like xubuntu or even Lubuntu
[17:37] <kdog333334444455> hey guys, I am back. I was known as 'k_dog345', I am in live USB testing sound, and it does not work. Can I get some help?
[17:37] <Welastevil> the hardware is fine...
[17:37] <Welastevil> it is an alienware, core i7, 4giga ram, and so on...
[17:37] <Welastevil> I think it is quit buged....
[17:38] <Bashing-om> Welastevil: Maybe: http://www.dedoimedo.com/computers/systemd-blame.html will give ya some direction ?
[17:38] <donofrio> Welastevil, inxi -Fxz
[17:38] <donofrio> Welastevil, paste to apaste.info
[17:38] <Welastevil> inxi?
[17:38] <k1l> 4gb ram is not that mmuch as of today. i guess a browser with some tabs can eat that easily
[17:38] <marcelo_> hola gente. quien me puede decir si puedo cambiar el tamaño de pantalla que me aparece en 640/860 75hz
[17:38] <donofrio> ubottu, !inxi Welastevil
[17:39] <marcelo_> prove todo lo que vi en los foros pero no me lo pernmite, tal vez sea por el procesador
[17:39] <phillyj> silly me, I ran apt-get autoremove and now my ethernet dont work. How do I fix it?
[17:40] <Welastevil> I dont understand what I should past donofrio...
[17:40] <donofrio> Welastevil, apt-get install inxi then paste output to apaste place
[17:40] <Welastevil> ok!
[17:40] <Mint001> Hey guys... Using chromium youtube works perfectly fine, but other web videos do not. Any ideas ??
[17:40] <donofrio> Mint001, chromium, did you aslo install pepperflash?
[17:40] <Mint001> Its just gives me a right click to play flash but nothing happens. Once I reload the page it says that the plugin couldn't be loaded
[17:40] <k1l> Mint001: so you are missing flash. youtube is using html5 now
[17:40] <Mint001> donofrio: yes i have pepperflash installed
[17:41] <Mint001> pepperflash was installed through synaptic the same time as I installed chromium and other stuff...
[17:42] <Welastevil> here!
[17:42] <Welastevil> http://pastebin.com/zexDSrp4
[17:44] <k1l> Welastevil: what video card is it? did you install the prop. drivers in the system settings?
[17:44] <Mint001> Should I uninstall pepperflash & try reinstalling it ??
[17:45] <Welastevil> I dont know...
[17:45] <donofrio> Welastevil, do not be in hurry try what I suggested witches -Fxz to inxi
[17:45] <k1l> Welastevil: "lspci | nc termbin.com 9999" show the output url please
[17:46] <Welastevil> the geforce gtx 260m
[17:46] <Welastevil> about installing the drivers I dont know....
[17:47] <k1l> Welastevil: system settings -> software and update -> drivers tab
[17:49] <Welastevil> it says that no drivers are in use
[17:49] <k1l> does it offer drivers?
[17:50] <Welastevil> No proprietary drivers are in use
[17:50] <Welastevil> it says...
[17:51] <Term1nal> Having an issue with persistence of preferences.
[17:51] <Term1nal> Saved usernames/passwords of network mounted directories (eg: samba, sftp, etc) don't save despite selecting the option to remember "forever"
[17:52] <Term1nal> Similarly, when getting prompted in some applications to remember a certificate exception "forever", this appears to do jack all.
[17:53] <Term1nal> This has only started with 16.04
[17:57] <thebodykeepsthes> Hello
[17:59] <thebodykeepsthes> I have this hard drive, 1tb seagate, and it shows up on other machine but not ubuntu 14.04. 'fdisk -l' doesn't show it, and it doesn't show up with 'lsusb' either. Anyone know what's wrong?
[17:59] <phillyj> is there a way to find out what autoremove removed from my PC?? I shut down and found out that I lost important things....
[17:59] <thebodykeepsthes> There's a light on the device which is on so it's gettingn power.
[18:00] <sebsebseb> thebodykeepsthes: other machine with what OS?
[18:00] <thebodykeepsthes> sebsebseb: Win7
[18:00] <k1l> phillyj: look inside /var/log/apt
[18:00] <sebsebseb> thebodykeepsthes: oh
[18:00] <thinky> hi there
[18:01] <sebsebseb> thebodykeepsthes: Linux distros can usaully detect pretty much anything on a hard disk I think partionswise
[18:01] <sebsebseb> thinky: hi
[18:01] <Term1nal> sudo tail -f /var/log/kern.log
[18:01] <sebsebseb> thebodykeepsthes:  what's the file system on it NTFS? Or FAT?
[18:01] <thebodykeepsthes> sebsebseb: I'd imagine ntfs.
[18:01] <Term1nal> see if when you plug that drive in it starts resetting the link
[18:02] <sebsebseb> thebodykeepsthes: do what Term1nal put I guess,  but  have you got anything else on that machine  another OS no?  for other computer
[18:02] <Term1nal> oftentimes when plugging in drives, looking at the kernel log will give you an indication of the drive is failing to communicate
[18:02] <thebodykeepsthes> Term1nal: it's not. Just stuff about a touchpad.
[18:02] <thinky> how r u guys?
[18:03] <Term1nal> start that kernel log tail, plug the drive in, and watch to see what it starts saying
[18:03] <tim241> is it normal that if I run apt-get update I only get this as output?
[18:03] <tim241> Hit:1 http://ppa.launchpad.net/ubuntu-wine/ppa/ubuntu xenial InRelease
[18:03] <tim241> Hit:2 http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu xenial InRelease
[18:03] <Term1nal> I often use that as a method to determine if a drive is just failed or not.
[18:03] <tim241> Hit:3 http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu xenial-updates InRelease
[18:03] <tim241> Hit:4 http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu xenial-backports InRelease
[18:03] <tim241> Hit:5 http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu xenial-security InRelease
[18:03] <sebsebseb> !pastebin
[18:03] <sebsebseb> but too late now your on quite
[18:04] <Welastevil> any ideas about what might be slowing my pc?
[18:04] <sebsebseb> wait a bit for unmute I guess
[18:04] <Welastevil> http://pastebin.com/zexDSrp4
[18:04] <tim241> sorry
[18:04] <thebodykeepsthes> Term1nal: nothing
[18:05] <k1l> tim241: use paste.ubuntu.com
[18:05] <tim241> ok
[18:05] <k1l> tim241: then show the link here
[18:05] <tim241> ok sorry
[18:05] <Term1nal> thebodykeepsthes: is it an external drive with USB?
[18:05] <thebodykeepsthes> Term1nal: yes.
[18:05] <thebodykeepsthes> Term1nal: Seagate 1tb, srdosp0
[18:05] <Term1nal> In those instances, I will rip a drive out of the external drive housing and plug in directly to SATA
[18:06] <thinky> how can i set shutter as default screenshot app in ubuntu ?
[18:06] <Term1nal> could mean that the USB/SATA controller chip inside of that housing is blitzed
[18:06] <thebodykeepsthes> Term1nal: works on win7 though
[18:06] <Term1nal> Oh, hm
[18:06] <tim241> is it normal that if I run apt-get update I only get this as output?: http://pastebin.com/zMmduSaV
[18:06] <Term1nal> you get no output on kern.log upon connecting that drive?
[18:06] <Term1nal> it should say stuff about USB
[18:06] <thebodykeepsthes> Term1nal: it says nothing; I watched it
[18:07] <thebodykeepsthes> Term1nal: it powers up though; the drive has a light on it
[18:07] <Term1nal> got a flash drive?
[18:07] <thebodykeepsthes> Term1nal: yes, it works.
[18:07] <Term1nal> plug it in and see if kern.log says stuff
[18:07] <tim241> ??someone help me
[18:08] <thebodykeepsthes> tim241: looks fine
[18:08] <thebodykeepsthes> tim241: maybe you meant to do 'apt-get upgrade'?
[18:08] <tim241> ok thx
[18:08] <Term1nal> tim241, yes, looks fine.
[18:08] <Term1nal> apt-get upgrade just refreshes the package lists
[18:08] <Term1nal> er
[18:08] <Term1nal> update*
[18:08] <tim241> I did and it is upgrading some software
[18:09] <tim241> ok thx
[18:09] <Term1nal> apt-get update just does package lists, apt-get upgrade does the actual package installation
[18:09] <tim241> ok
[18:09] <Term1nal> thebodykeepsthes: got a different USB cable for that drive? tried a different port? (like a 2.0 instead of a 3.0 or what have you if applicable)
[18:11] <thebodykeepsthes> Term1nal: tried all three; nothing
[18:11] <Term1nal> Strange.
[18:11] <Term1nal> Not sure about that one.
[18:12] <styler2go> hello. i am trying to do a wget but i always get network is unreachable but i can access the pc, any idea what i can do?
[18:13] <thebodykeepsthes> Term1nal: okay thanks anyway.
[18:13] <tim241> maybe iis it region locked?
[18:13] <BlackVenom> Hey fokls
[18:14] <BlackVenom> folks
[18:14] <tim241> hi
[18:14] <BlackVenom> Can you still use init scripts on 16.04?
[18:14] <tim241> yes
[18:14] <BlackVenom> Super thanks tim241
[18:14] <tim241> np
[18:15] <tim241> just do cd /etc/init.d to check if there is any init.d folder
[18:15] <BlackVenom> Any ideas why I can get 16.04 to install on an old system but not 14.04.04? It hangs at the Select Language page
[18:16] <styler2go> please help
[18:16] <tim241> you=why do you want to install 14.04?
[18:17] <BlackVenom> I just tried it before 16.04 as I already had a disc but it kept crashing
[18:18] <tim241> but why do you want an older version if you can have the newest version
[18:19] <BlackVenom> curiosity mostly
[18:19] <tim241> ow ok
[18:21] <tim241> idk why it is crashing
[18:21] <tim241> maybe upload the log file?
[18:21] <tim241> from the installer
[18:22] <tim241> should I remove linux and install windows 10 or should I stick with linux?
[18:23] <BlackVenom> tim241 where would the log file be?
[18:23] <tim241> if you install it you can send the error file to the server
[18:23] <tim241> just take a pic of the whole error and come to this chat
[18:24] <tim241> anyways gtg
[18:27] <Mint001> Hey I have been looking into my flash not working & it turns out that I appear to be missing "/usr/lib/pepperflashplugin-nonfree/libpepflashplayer.so" I have tried uninstalling and reinstalling to no avil.
[18:27] <thinky> i am having problems ?
[18:27] <thinky> :
[18:27] <thinky> http://i.imgur.com/DOrcFAk.png
[18:27] <thinky> http://i.imgur.com/y3k5r7M.png
[18:27] <thinky> can somebody help me please?
[18:27] <styler2go> Can someone help me? My ipv4 seems not to be working :( http://pastie.org/10834589
[18:27] <hubot__> how to browse internet without google?
[18:27] <paco__> \list
[18:28] <CaffeineAddict> hubot__: google it
[18:28] <styler2go> use bing
[18:28] <styler2go> hahaha. hahah.
[18:28] <styler2go> hah.
[18:28] <hubot__> \list? pa
[18:28] <Mint001> hubot_: use duckduckgo.com :)
[18:28] <CaffeineAddict> duckduckgo is google w/ out tracking
[18:29] <k1l> thinky: close software updater and software center and run in terminal"sudo apt update ; sudo apt upgrade | nc termbin.com 9999" and show the output link here
[18:29] <CaffeineAddict> hubot__: what is your end goal ... what are you trying to accomplish?
[18:29] <thinky> ok k1l
[18:30] <thinky> k1l: http://paste.ubuntu.com/16380312/
[18:30] <hubot__> finding random information from internet world CaffeineAddict
[18:31] <Mint001> Anyone able to link me to libpepflashplayer.so ?? Like I said I've tried uninstalling & reinstalling pepperflash but this file does not appear thous why my flash is not working :(
[18:31] <k1l> thinky: "grep ^ /etc/apt/sources.list /etc/apt/sources.list.d/* | nc termbin.com 9999"
[18:32] <thinky> done k1l
[18:32] <thinky> now?
[18:32] <CaffeineAddict> hubot__: if you want random ... try stunbleupon ... if you want really random try somethingawful.org or 4chan
[18:32] <k1l> thinky: show the link please
[18:32] <thinky> http://termbin.com/x9j2
[18:32] <hubot__> i dont want to use from any website's eyes CaffeineAddict
[18:33] <hubot__> i dont want to view from any website's eyes CaffeineAddict
[18:33] <BlackVenom> thinky, have you run apt-get install -f
[18:33] <thinky> yes BlackVenom
[18:34] <thinky> ah wait i ran '' apt-get -f install
[18:34] <k1l> thinky: sudo apt full-upgrade
[18:34] <thinky> k1l: http://paste.ubuntu.com/16380382/
[18:35] <daey> how can i throw an ssh session onto the hosts display?
[18:35] <CaffeineAddict> hubot__: so text only?
[18:35] <k1l> thinky: "sudo apt-get install -f"
[18:35] <daey> client A logs into host B. Bs display shows said session
[18:36] <thinky> k1l: http://paste.ubuntu.com/16380413/
[18:36] <hubot__> i didnt get you CaffeineAddict . text information is also ok
[18:37] <thinky> how can i remove that ''/var/cache/apt/archives/openjdk-8-jre-headless_8u91-b14-0ubuntu4~16.04.1_amd64.deb '' ?
[18:37] <daey> ok, if that isnt possible
[18:37] <k1l> thinky: "sudo rm /var/cache/apt/archives/openjdk-8-jre-headless_8u91-b14-0ubuntu4~16.04.1_amd64.deb ; sudo apt update; sudo apt full-upgrade"
[18:38] <daey> how can i access a local tty via ssh?
[18:38] <thinky> grrrrrrrrr
[18:38] <thinky> k1l: http://paste.ubuntu.com/16380463/
[18:38] <CaffeineAddict> daey: /dev/tty0
[18:39] <thinky> damn openjdk-8
[18:39] <k1l> thinky: wait, that didnt remove the file.
[18:39] <k1l> thinky: make sure this works: "sudo rm /var/cache/apt/archives/openjdk-8-jre-headless_8u91-b14-0ubuntu4~16.04.1_amd64.deb"
[18:39] <thinky> ok
[18:39] <k1l> thinky: then "sudo apt update; sudo apt full-upgrade"
[18:40] <thinky> cannot remove k1l
[18:40] <k1l> why?
[18:40] <thinky> http://paste.ubuntu.com/16380495/
[18:40] <thinky> no idea
[18:40] <thinky> no such file
[18:40] <thinky> it seems deleted
[18:40] <k1l> ok
[18:40] <thinky> but why still giving error ?
[18:40] <k1l> thinky: "sudo apt-get install -f"
[18:40] <daey> CaffeineAddict: how can i access a specific tty via ssh?
[18:41] <daey> i thought it will always open a new one
[18:41] <Term1nal> daey: screen I think
[18:41] <daey> i could butcher it together with tmux. by loading a tmux sessions into two ttys
[18:41] <thinky> installing updates of jdk8
[18:41] <Term1nal> I use screen for serial
[18:42] <thinky> done k1l
[18:42] <thinky> ''sudo apt update; sudo apt full-upgrade'' ?
[18:42] <CaffeineAddict> daey: like your ssh-ed into a box and want to check the tty on that box?
[18:42] <k1l> thinky: ok. seems like the package was not downloaded properly. and it was trying over and over again installing that broken package
[18:42] <k1l> thinky: yes
[18:42] <Term1nal> like: screen /dev/ttyUSB0 9600
[18:43] <thinky> installing archieves
[18:43] <daey> CaffeineAddict: well theres a user on that box that logsin automatically, its tty is displayed on a display. i want a way to play around with the display output from my ssh session
[18:44] <hidden> i did "sudo rm /etc/apt/sources.list" trying to fix something, how to replace it via terminal?
[18:44] <CaffeineAddict> daey: like Term1nal said ... try 'screen'
[18:44] <Term1nal> hidden: what version
[18:44] <CaffeineAddict> daey: you may have to install it
[18:44] <thinky> k1l: http://i.imgur.com/5gVSMQa.png
[18:44] <Term1nal> hidden: https://repogen.simplylinux.ch/
[18:44] <thinky> is this symbol because of these errors?
[18:45] <thinky> seems so it just disappeared
[18:45] <k1l> thinky: dont mind that
[18:45] <thinky> ok anyway it just disappeared
[18:45] <hidden> 16.04
[18:45] <thinky> process is done k1l
[18:45] <thinky> i think it installed and upgraded
[18:46] <thinky> how can i check if it is done properly?
[18:46] <thinky> i was having problems with installing apps for some days
[18:46] <hidden> thanks
[18:46] <thinky> it was not able to install when i try
[18:46] <k1l> thinky: when "sudo apt update ; sudo apt full-upgrade" doesnt show any packages to upgrade
[18:47] <thinky> k1l: should i try the command again?
[18:47] <CaffeineAddict> if I run `tail -f /var/log/syslog` how do i pipe the output ... end goal I would like to pipe the output via UDP so it can be logged on another box
[18:47] <Term1nal> CaffeineAddict: netcat
[18:47] <thinky> k1l: Calculating upgrade... Done 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
[18:48] <thinky> :)
[18:48] <Term1nal> CaffeineAddict: also, might be better to use syslog
[18:48] <thinky> thank you very much !
[18:48] <Term1nal> CaffeineAddict: https://www.debuntu.org/how-to-remote-syslog-logging-on-debian-and-ubuntu/
[18:48] <Term1nal> Since it supports this already
[18:48] <CaffeineAddict> Term1nal: does it work for other types of log files?  I used syslog as an example
[18:49] <thinky> k1l: thank you !
[18:49] <jon__> sudo apt full-update
[18:49] <_zkate_> hi, does anyone knows about /proc/net/ip_tables_names file
[18:50] <meskes> What about it?
[18:50] <thinky> another question how can i add ''show desktop'' on unity launcher?
[18:50] <thinky> or is there any easy way to show desktop on launcer?
[18:50] <_zkate_> meskes: I dont have it on my system
[18:50] <meskes> And????
[18:51] <_zkate_> meskes: is it removed the current versions?
[18:51] <meskes> Start iptables and add some tables and chains to it.
[18:51] <meskes> No. /proc is a virtual FS. It's only there, if it's running.
[18:52] <_zkate_> meskes: ok . i get it.. thanks
[18:53] <EldonMcGuinness> If apt autoremove is flagging things that should not be removed as removable, what should I do to solve that?
[18:53] <EldonMcGuinness> I can't say I have ever seen this before so I'm at a bit of a loss
[18:53] <Term1nal> EldonMcGuinness: such as?
[18:53] <EldonMcGuinness> gdm
[18:54] <Term1nal> Do you use gdm?
[18:54] <EldonMcGuinness> im on ubuntu-gnome, but figured this might be an issue someone here is familiar with.
[18:54] <dax> EldonMcGuinness: apt-mark manual packagename
[18:54] <EldonMcGuinness> cheers, I think I just found an article that is saying that too dax
[18:54] <dax> (see also man apt's section of "autoremove")
[18:55] <xangua> thinky: yes, with unity tweak
[18:56] <thinky> xangua: thx done
[18:57] <fundies> can someone help me fix ubuntu?
[18:57] <sebsebseb> fundies: maybe what's the issue
[18:57] <fundies> hangs at boot
[18:58] <fundies> stoping user manager for uid 118
[18:58] <fundies> last thing it says
[19:01] <fundies> so.... can someone help me fix ubuntu?
[19:02] <thinky> what was the command to be root in terminal?
[19:02] <thinky> su ?
[19:02] <fundies> yes
[19:02] <administrador> Hello. I have Ubuntu 14.04 with Cinnamon DE. I have a R9 380 GPU. So I installed the latest drivers (15.302) from AMD site but now I can't login, the whole screen it's filled with distortion, even in other tty's can't see a thing, I am in Failsafemode right now and it works fine, the thing is I don't want to enter GRUB everytime to login, is there a way to login directly to Failsafe mode in every boot?
[19:02] <k1l> no
[19:03] <k1l> thinky: sudo
[19:03] <thinky> should i install gksu first?
[19:03] <thinky> thx kiki1
[19:03] <fundies> sudo su if dont have root password
[19:03] <thinky> k1l:
[19:03] <k1l> just preface the command you want to run with sudo. that will make that command run as root. but dont run everything as root
[19:03] <thinky> ok
[19:04] <k1l> fundies: that is bad advise. ubuntu uses sudo. if you want a root shell use sudo -i
[19:04] <rhorse> I created a root account, makes life easier....
[19:04] <fundies> k1l, its not advice its the corect answer to his question
[19:04] <k1l> rhorse: you are free to do that. but that is not the ubuntu way. ubuntu is build to not use the root account.
[19:04] <PaulePanter> Hi. How does Unity handle the laptop screen backlight?
[19:05] <k1l> fundies: no, it isnt the correct answer in #ubuntu
[19:05] <thinky> hmm
[19:05] <fundies> k1l, yes it is
[19:05] <k1l> !sudo | fundies
[19:05] <rhorse> I know, k1l but Ubuntu is linux, and the 'linux way' can and does often include a root account. YMMV.
[19:05] <PaulePanter> Does it use D-Bus?
[19:05] <fundies> k1l, i know what sudo is
[19:05] <zykotick9> fundies: i'm sorry, but "sudo su" is a BAD answer for any distro...
[19:06] <Term1nal> you're more than welcome to use the root account
[19:06] <Term1nal> but you're inviting problems by doing so.
[19:06] <fundies> k1l, ive prolly been using linux far longer than you
[19:06] <Term1nal> By all means, go ahead and root your way to victory.
[19:06] <rhorse> I've never had a problem in 12 years of using linux with a root account.
[19:06] <k1l> fundies: you try to make it personal. dont do that. you gave a wrong answer. i provided the technical correct answer.
[19:06] <Term1nal> If you're smart and don't run untrusted scripts and applications as root, sure, you can get away with it.
[19:06] <fundies> k1l, zykotick9, its how you get a shell as root.
[19:07] <fundies> thats the correct answer
[19:07] <Term1nal> But to tell others that such is a good way of doing things is irresponsible.
[19:07] <zykotick9> fundies: NO.  it's not.
[19:07] <thinky> i was trying to add an icon on launcher
[19:07] <fundies> if he asked how to run x as elevated user
[19:07] <thinky> but now it happened empty space between launcher icons :S
[19:07] <fundies> then sudo would be correct
[19:07] <k1l> rhorse: this is ubuntu specific. i know that other distros use that differently. but ubuntu is build around a non-login root account.
[19:07] <thinky> how can i get rid of that empty space?
[19:08] <k1l> fundies: you are wrong. sudo su sets some wrong enviroment variables. which is solved with using sudo -i.
[19:08] <rhorse> I know, k1l but I prefer the freedom to do things differently....YMMV
[19:08] <Term1nal> I drop to interactive root shell via sudo -s and have my bash prompt change to red
[19:09] <fundies> if ubuntu breaks sudo su. its even shittier than I remembered
[19:09] <fundies>  speaking of how shitty ubuntu is...
[19:09] <akik> fundies: the correct syntax is "sudo su -"
[19:09] <fundies> has anyone ever run a successful upgrade
[19:09] <zykotick9> fundies: "sudo su" NEVER makes sense...  with ANY distro.
[19:09] <dax> fundies: this isn't Ubuntu-specific behavior. sudo su is affected by the environment of the non-root user running it. sudo -i is not. This is all in sudo and su documentation.
[19:09] <thinky> here : http://i.imgur.com/JHJ6WAa.png
[19:10] <thinky> there is an empty space between icons
[19:10] <thinky> how can i fix?
[19:10] <GnomeKris> two things. First, I've just had to reset cmos for the second time...This is beginning to show a trend, any ideas? Two. Why the heck did my workspace switcher hotkeys stop working after running compiz in terminal the other day? Will they start working again if I purge compiz?
[19:11] <GnomeKris> As long as gdm is in charge of display management, compiz is completely unnecessary right?
[19:12] <fundies> When  called  without  arguments, su defaults to running an interactive
[19:12] <fundies>        shell as root.
[19:12] <k1l> GnomeKris: gdm and compiz do different things
[19:12] <fundies> wow almost word for word what i said
[19:12] <k1l> fundies: you are missing the point that got explained  to you twice.
[19:12] <GnomeKris> k1l, but is compiz required in this particular situation?
[19:12] <zykotick9> fundies: BUT, putting "sudo" infront of "su" is silly/wrong/incorrectly...
[19:13] <fundies> k1l, you're missing the point
[19:13] <k1l> GnomeKris: no. its not needed for the login screen.
[19:13] <fundies> anyways this isnt getting me anywhere
[19:13] <dax> fundies: in #ubuntu, we recommend sudo -i. If you dislike that, you are free to not provide sudo support here. But this argument is tedious and not going anywhere, so let's drop it.
[19:13] <fundies> apparently noone here knows how to fix ubuntu
[19:13] <freaj> GnomeKris: you don't need compiz to make gdm work
[19:14] <fundies> ill leave
[19:14] <freaj> GnomeKris: *however* please keep compiz unless you *really* know what you're doing
[19:14] <GnomeKris> freaj, what does compiz control that I need it for? Because I'm thinking that the only way to get my hotkeys back is to purge it.
[19:15] <GnomeKris> After running it the other day, the hotkeys stopped working.
[19:15] <freaj> GnomeKris: are you using unity?
[19:15] <k1l> gdm means he is using gnome shell
[19:16] <GnomeKris> freaj, Ubuntu Gnome 14.04...so no, I'm pretty sure I'm not *actively* using unity
[19:16] <dax> GnomeKris: you don't need compiz.
[19:16] <freaj> GnomeKris: then you don't need compiz :-)
[19:16] <freaj> dax: heh!
[19:16]  * freaj gives a penny to dax
[19:16] <GnomeKris> Thanks guys
[19:17] <dax> GnomeKris: GNOME uses mutter instead for window management and compositing
[19:18] <Term1nal> I ponder if anyone can help me with my issue. Credentials to network mounted directories (samba, sftp, etc) aren't being saved "forever" despite clicking the option to save them "forever".
[19:19] <GnomeKris> dax, so removing compiz and unity have no affect on how gnome displays?
[19:20] <dax> GnomeKris: GNOME sessions shouldn't even be running them, correct
[19:20] <GnomeKris> cool, cause that's all I use is the gnome session...I don't even run the gnome classic session. Just the default
[19:21] <fedoen> hi guys, this is getting a real pain, I got my bluetooth headset working on 16.04 after a long struggle, now every time I reboot, I have to mannually turn on bluetooth, unplug the dongle from the usb port, plug it back in and sound will be working if lucky, now I can't get it working this way anymore, please share some info if you know a workaround for bluetooth headset in 16.04
[19:21] <GnomeKris> also, just apt-get remove? or purge?
[19:22] <dax> GnomeKris: remove removes the actual program files, purge removes any configuration files in /etc and similar
[19:22] <dax> GnomeKris: so if you're not going to use them again, may as well purge
[19:23] <GnomeKris> purge it is then, thanks dax
[19:24] <GnomeKris> (I dislike unity and compiz, to weighty on the system and to many dang config options)
[19:24] <fedoen> now I got it working but it's breaking off, syslog: pulseaudio[1783]: [bluetooth] module-bluez5-device.c: Skipping 22188 us (= 3912 bytes) in audio stream
[19:25] <Spinach> hello
[19:25] <Spinach> Can anyone hear me
[19:25] <Spinach> Herro?
[19:25] <freaj> Spinach: yes
[19:25] <freaj> hi
[19:27] <fedoen> Spinach: I feel you
[19:27] <Spinach> hay
[19:27] <daey> how can i change the tty font to a 6x8px font?
[19:27] <daey> or if readable even smaller
[19:27] <Spinach> What is the user-friendly, graphical program that I use to customize Grub?
[19:28] <thinky> can i install gnome classic to ubuntu 16.04 ?
[19:29] <thinky> is it updated for ubuntu 16.04 lts already?
[19:29] <thinky> fallback
[19:29] <k1l> thinky: should be included.
[19:29] <OerHeks> Spinach, grub customizer > https://launchpad.net/grub-customizer
[19:30] <thinky> i read somewhere gnome fallback is not updated since 2012
[19:30] <Welastevil> guys!
[19:30] <Welastevil>  I can not use my apt-get anymore((((\
[19:30] <Welastevil> please take a look!
[19:30] <Welastevil> http://pastebin.com/Tkm87abS
[19:31] <k1l> thinky: gnome is making that cut down gnome2 lookalike again since the commercial clients from redhat demanded that.
[19:31] <OerHeks> Welastevil, terminal + softwarecenter open? colose one, only one instance allowed
[19:31] <M_aD> thinky,  flashback: http://www.debugpoint.com/2016/04/install-classic-gnome-flashback-in-ubuntu-16-04-replacing-unity/
[19:31] <thinky> k1l: but it was cool using gnome classic :S
[19:31] <Welastevil> how to close?
[19:31] <dax> Welastevil: you have another package manager open somewhere, either another apt-get or something like software center
[19:31] <Spinach> OerHeks: Did you read the full sentence of my question? That is not a package file, that is a source code file, that I would have to compile. I would like the user-friendly program that customizes grub. Thank you.
[19:31] <Welastevil> and what to close I dont understand
[19:32] <bob_> what the frack i can't connect to my irc network my friends have
[19:32] <Welastevil> how to find out and close?
[19:32] <OerHeks> Welastevil, one of the 2
[19:32] <Bashing-om> Spinach: CLI way . edit /etc/default/grub . section " # The resolution used on graphical terminal " line " #GRUB_GFXMODE=640x480 " .
[19:32] <Welastevil> yes...
[19:32] <OerHeks> or softwarecenter, or terminal
[19:32] <Welastevil> one of 2
[19:32] <Welastevil> but how?
[19:32] <OerHeks> ...
[19:32] <Welastevil> I see
[19:33] <Welastevil> to close software center
[19:33] <Spinach> Bashing-om, that is not an answer to my question. Please read what I said
[19:33] <fedoen> going to reboot, sometimes it fixes things, feeling like good old windows
[19:33] <k1l> !info gnome-flashback | thinky
[19:33] <squinty> Welastevil, close software center or synaptics if you have them running.  if not then  sudo rm /var/lib/dpkg/lock   in a terminal and then try to update again
[19:33] <Spinach> What is a novice-friendly way to customize Grub?
[19:33] <OerHeks> Spinach, i read your Q fine, see that page, open the ppa url > https://launchpad.net/~danielrichter2007/+archive/ubuntu/grub-customizer  and add it in softwaresources
[19:33] <k1l> thinky: that is what its called now
[19:33] <thinky> is it safe to install it?
[19:34] <Spinach> ok OerHeks, I will try that
[19:34] <k1l> thinky: yes
[19:34] <Spinach> OerHekds, I had used that page to download the tar. I will try your new method
[19:34] <thinky> which the link M_aD gave?
[19:34] <OerHeks> Spinach, and there are screenshots too. that is why i point you to that page for start
[19:34] <Bashing-om> Spinach: :) . Then as OerHeks advised .
[19:34] <k1l> thinky: sudo apt install gnome-flashback
[19:34] <thinky> yes i did it
[19:35] <thinky> k1l: is this empty space normal? : http://i.imgur.com/JHJ6WAa.png
[19:35] <k1l> thinky: no
[19:35] <Spinach> Thank you, OerHeks.
[19:35] <thinky> how can i fix it ?
[19:35] <OerHeks> Spinach, have fun!
[19:35] <Spinach> Thinky: k1l is a jerk, do not associate with him.
[19:36] <Term1nal> Might someone be able to help me with my issue? Credentials to network mounted directories (samba, sftp, etc) aren't being saved "forever" despite clicking the option to save them "forever".
[19:36] <thinky> i think you are the one Spinach
[19:36] <Spinach> He is a complete asshole
[19:36] <thinky> he helped me a lot
[19:36] <OerHeks> ... nice attitude, Spinach
[19:36] <squinty> Spinach, he is also a very knowledgable mod here.  and no he is not a jerk   not in the least
[19:37] <thinky> k1l: is very kind person
[19:38] <kzic> Spinach, you want to customize list items order and names or the entire theme?
[19:38] <thinky> how can i fix that empty space? :S
[19:39] <OerHeks> yes, not k1l but me is the terrible person, please move on with support, thanks.
[19:39] <Welastevil> now the problem is another
[19:39] <Welastevil>  Unable to lock directory /var/cache/apt/archives/
[19:39] <Sebastien> thinky, if you kill all the process running, and emptying the bar of it's icons, maybe it will fix it.
[19:39] <Sebastien> im not 100% sure tho
[19:39] <thinky> Sebastien: i click on it but nothing shows up to remove
[19:40] <Sebastien> the ones after the space.
[19:40] <thinky> i dont know how it happened. i was just dragging an icon to put there
[19:40] <Sebastien> colse them all, when another empty space meets to it, maybe it will fix it
[19:40] <Sebastien> this is what i would try.
[19:40] <Sebastien> close *
[19:40] <thinky> maybe restart helps
[19:41] <Welastevil> how to close all?
[19:41] <OerHeks> Welastevil, then there are possible updates pending, close terminal too and run updates...
[19:41] <Sebastien> right click on it
[19:41] <Welastevil> there is no updates..
[19:41] <Welastevil> I already cheked it
[19:41] <OerHeks> that happens not that often, but can be the culprit.
[19:41] <OerHeks> oke, then here is the wiki with apt troubleshooting > https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PackageManagerTroubleshootingProcedure
[19:42] <OerHeks> Welastevil, try " sudo fuser -vvv /var/cache/apt/archives/lock " first, then run update again
[19:43] <torpet> hi all
[19:44] <torpet> what is the best way to get vlc 2.2.3 on ubuntu 14.04?
[19:44] <thinky_> solution is : unity --replace
[19:44] <thinky_> to remove invisible icon - empty space in launcher
[19:45] <xangua> torpet: compile it yourself or upgrade to a newer ubuntu release
[19:45] <Welastevil> E: Could not get lock /var/cache/apt/archives/lock - open (11: Resource temporarily unavailable)
[19:45] <Welastevil> stil this problem...
[19:45] <CaffeineAddict> join /python
[19:45] <dax> CaffeineAddict: try /join #python
[19:45] <Welastevil> E: Unable to lock directory /var/cache/apt/archives/
[19:45] <torpet> xangua: are there any 3rd party repositories who offer it?
[19:45] <CaffeineAddict> ./facepalm
[19:45] <Welastevil> and this....
[19:46] <xangua> torpet: for trusty, doubt it
[19:46] <torpet> to old libraries?
[19:46] <torpet> *too
[19:49] <Welastevil> how do I exit apt?
[19:49] <fedoen> back
[19:49] <fedoen> problem persists
[19:51] <Bashing-om> Welastevil: Depends on what apt is doing .. there are those times is BAD to interrupt apt .
[19:51] <rp2> Welastevil, eithe you're not doing it as root or some other package management utility is still running. rebooting should fix that
[19:52] <rp2> but indeed it's better to figure out what is going on
[19:53] <fedoen> need help with bluetooth headset on ubuntu 16.04, if any1 has gone trought the pain of connecting and got it working please share
[19:53] <oceansky> hi i am getting very bad freezing from ubuntu 14.04-16.04
[19:56] <thinky_> another error : http://i.imgur.com/Jrwkbpx.png
[19:56] <thinky_> could u please take a look?
[20:00] <joshuaebbymathe> Hello, I installed Ubuntu 16.04 LTS with Windows 10 in dual boot setup. Have been facing a rather weird network issue. Help please?
[20:01] <garshol> whats the issue joshuaebbymathe
[20:01] <Bashing-om> thinky_: Ouch ! What have you done ? .. Show us a new ' sudo apt update ; sudo apt full-upgrade ' .
[20:02] <joshuaebbymathe> I am able to ping my local network ip address, but not other IPs outside the network
[20:02] <garshol> so you cant ping 8.8.8.8 ?
[20:02] <joshuaebbymathe> Yes
[20:02] <garshol> but your interwebs is working fine?
[20:02] <joshuaebbymathe> But when I tried using Win 10 installed on the same machine, I am able to
[20:03] <Bashing-om> joshuaebbymathe: A DNS issue ? ' ping -c3 8.8.8.8 ' completes ?
[20:03] <garshol> Have you installed any restricted extras?
[20:03] <joshuaebbymathe> It doesn't complete
[20:03] <joshuaebbymathe> No DNS issue, I checked that
[20:03] <thinky_> Bashing-om: installing some packages
[20:04] <thinky_> 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
[20:04] <joshuaebbymathe> Then I tried from the live-cd, still the same issue
[20:04] <Bashing-om> thinky_: We await .. and see what the package manager did .
[20:04] <thinky_> i just checked updates from software update app
[20:04] <fedoen> joshuaebbymathe: maybe a gateway issue
[20:04] <thinky_> and i clicked on about this computer from settings
[20:04] <joshuaebbymathe> restricted extras, no
[20:05] <garshol> fedoen is onto something joshuaebbymathe. Might be a gateway issue.
[20:05] <thinky_> Bashing-om: http://paste.ubuntu.com/16381591/
[20:05] <joshuaebbymathe> But I was able to ping from Win 10, which is on the same machine
[20:05] <fedoen> joshuaebbymathe: not the same thing
[20:05] <fedoen> what's your local network config
[20:06] <fedoen> direct connection?
[20:06] <fedoen> or trough a router
[20:06] <joshuaebbymathe> Gateway configuration in the network interface?
[20:06] <fedoen> yes
[20:06] <joshuaebbymathe> 10.10.0.0/22
[20:06] <fedoen> and phis settings
[20:06] <fedoen> equippment
[20:06] <fedoen> do you have a lan router?
[20:06] <Bashing-om> thinky_: way back this morning, you were working " ttf-mscorefonts-installer " . Did you get it installed properly ?
[20:06] <joshuaebbymathe> My computer's ip is: 10.10.2.0 / 22 with gateway 10.10.0.1
[20:07] <fedoen> joshuaebbymathe: can you ping 10.10.0.1?
[20:07] <joshuaebbymathe> no
[20:07] <thinky_> Bashing-om: i dont remember doing it
[20:07] <thinky_> not on purpose at least
[20:07] <thinky_> i m newbie on ubuntu
[20:07] <thinky_> trying to learn
[20:08] <fundies> why is ubuntu such a shit?
[20:08] <joshuaebbymathe> I have L2 switch between the distribution switch; and I can only ping the computers connected in the L2 switch
[20:08] <pOY> hello
[20:08] <fundies> if i uninstall gdm
[20:08] <fundies> why it try to start gdm
[20:09] <Bashing-om> thinky_: K, no biggy then if it is not a current problem. the " W: http://dl.google.com/linux/chrome/ " you can safely ignore. We are awaiting google to strengthen their security to match ours .
[20:09] <thinky_> Bashing-om: ah yes i was trying to install google chrome
[20:09] <fedoen> joshuaebbymathe: dhcp or static ip?
[20:09] <pOY> got a small issue with unity tweak if anyone can help?
[20:09] <joshuaebbymathe> static ip
[20:09] <joshuaebbymathe> 10.10.2.0 is what I am using
[20:09] <rp2> fundies, did you reboot?
[20:10] <thinky_> Bashing-om: i installed it and i am on google chrome at the moment. isnt it safe?
[20:10] <fundies> yes
[20:10] <rp2> hmm
[20:10] <fedoen> and on win 10 same setup?
[20:10] <rp2> seems like a bug
[20:10] <fundies> ubuntus retarded and broke my system on upgrade
[20:10] <fundies> hangs at gdm
[20:10] <fundies> i remove gdm
[20:10] <rp2> what did you install instead of gdm?
[20:10] <fundies> hangs at gdm
[20:10] <joshuaebbymathe> Yes same on win 10
[20:10] <fundies> piece of shit
[20:10] <dax> fundies: cut the attitude and language, please.
[20:10] <fundies> nothing
[20:10] <CaffeineAddict> if I use `tail -f foo.log` it yields any newly appended logs (works as intended) however if foo.log is deleted and recreated tail acts like nothing happend and gives you none of the changes to the new foo.txt
[20:10] <CaffeineAddict> is there a solution to this?
[20:10] <joshuaebbymathe> I even tried installing Mint Rosa
[20:10] <joshuaebbymathe> same issue
[20:10] <fedoen> you need a route somewhere, tho I'm no expert on manual routes
[20:11] <dax> CaffeineAddict: use -F instead of -f
[20:11] <rp2> CaffeineAddict, maybe you can use a filesystem watch utility
[20:11] <rp2> oh!
[20:11] <CaffeineAddict> dax: ty
[20:11] <joshuaebbymathe> Let me try that
[20:11] <fedoen> joshuaebbymathe: what do you have as default on route command?
[20:11] <Bashing-om> thinky_: Yes; google-chrome is safe . just their error checking/security for updates is weaker than ubuntu - in 16.04 - is comfortable with .
[20:11] <dax> CaffeineAddict: (which is equivalent to -f --retry, and --retry does "keep trying to open a file if it is inaccessible")
[20:12] <thinky_> i see Bashing-om thx
[20:12] <joshuaebbymathe> one sec, let me check
[20:12] <curlyears> hello, All.  I am very embarassed.  PPAARENTLY THE dvd i HAVE LABELED AS A  16.04 ISOK, IS REALLY A 14.04.0iso.  So I am having all this trouble under 14.04.4, not under 16.04
[20:12] <joshuaebbymathe> Default route 10.10.0.1
[20:12] <boyen> hello
[20:12] <boyen> who use ubuntu mate here?
[20:12] <joshuaebbymathe> When I do ifconfig, should the default route show?
[20:13] <nacc_> !mate | boyen
[20:13] <joshuaebbymathe> It is not in eth0
[20:13] <\9> !ask | boyen
[20:13] <fedoen> joshuaebbymathe: only the gateway
[20:14] <joshuaebbymathe> Under eth0 it only shows -> inet addr, Bcast and Mask
[20:14] <pOY> got an issue with unity tweak tool, when i set the window buttons to the right hand side the setting gets ingnored and nothing happens
[20:14] <Bashing-om> joshuaebbymathe: " 10.10.0.1 " implies that another machine on the internal network is doing the routing .
[20:15] <fedoen> joshuaebbymathe: that's why I love dhcp :) saves me all the pain
[20:15] <computer> people of the ubuntu world, hear me
[20:15] <computer> i want to format a 2TB HDD
[20:15] <joshuaebbymathe> Oh! Let me change to dhcp
[20:15] <joshuaebbymathe> we have a dhcp server
[20:15] <computer> should i zero it first or not, will ziroing it make it move efficient and fast?
[20:15] <curlyears> I guess I'll start ordering a new M/B, *sigh*I  wish I could find opne with more than 4 RAM slots
[20:15] <k1l> computer: no
[20:16] <computer> so zeroing is just for security, will not affect function?
[20:16] <k1l> zeroing is not for security at all.
[20:16] <computer> k1l: then?
[20:17] <phil42> sometimes a drive might have been placed into some inappropriate mode and zeroing will clear that mode
[20:17] <MoonBurst> My speakers won't work, but my headphones do. Is there a way to find what drivers I might need?
[20:17] <curlyears> matically destorys all data ans software presently in the disk, so zeroing it ahead of time accomplishes nothing
[20:17]  * phil42 speaks from experience
[20:17] <fundies> fucking garbage distro piece of shit
[20:18] <boyen> sucks
[20:18] <fedoen> joshuaebbymathe: I mainly use network manager for my connection, my default gateway is on the same subnet /24 so I
[20:18] <k1l> computer: there are some myths back from the days when there was bandtapes and such.
[20:18] <fedoen> don't get that much trouble
[20:18] <computer> hmmmm sounds very deep guys, i have a 2TB HDD working fine, changing from mac to ubuntu and farmattin it to etx4, it is full of movies and after formatting will put back the movies, should i zero it while formatting or not?
[20:19] <fedoen> still waiting for some help on bluetooth headset :)
[20:19] <dax> no, it is pointless
[20:19] <EriC^^> computer: ^
[20:19] <joshuaebbymathe> I got an ip from the dhcp
[20:19] <fedoen> and internet?
[20:19] <computer> so the professionals say no zeroing, i will follow that... thanks people :-)
[20:19] <joshuaebbymathe> no, didn't
[20:20] <thinky_> how can i install gpointing or ibm thinkpad trackpoint driver?
[20:20] <joshuaebbymathe> I am now changing the L2 switch in between me and the distribution switch
[20:20] <joshuaebbymathe> I don't know it will help, but trying
[20:20] <joshuaebbymathe> Since I'm able to ping from Win10
[20:21] <fedoen> joshuaebbymathe: try to get all the info you can get from the windows machine
[20:21] <fedoen> joshuaebbymathe: ip, gateway, routes
[20:21] <fedoen> joshuaebbymathe: and try to setup the ubuntu in the same way
[20:21] <joshuaebbymathe> Okay
[20:22] <fedoen> joshuaebbymathe: if ip and gateway are the same then there's probably a problem on the routes
[20:23] <joshuaebbymathe> Apart from the default route, can I add a route?
[20:24] <fedoen> joshuaebbymathe:  yes, command line or network manager?
[20:24] <joshuaebbymathe> network manager
[20:24] <altin_> how to connect to CISCO VPN in gnome? I installed network-manager-vpnc but it's not showing up in network manager
[20:24] <joshuaebbymathe> Yes, I found the setting
[20:24] <joshuaebbymathe> It is 'Automatic' now
[20:25] <fedoen> joshuaebbymathe: you can add routes there, I have a VPN that needs manual routes which I add there
[20:25] <olmari> Any change or instructions how to update 16.04 libgcrypt20 (and everything it affects) into version 1.7 instead of it's 1.6.5
[20:26] <joshuaebbymathe> For me it's a direct connection, so do not know what to write
[20:26] <iced> hi
[20:26] <joshuaebbymathe> apart from the ip of the gateway
[20:26] <joshuaebbymathe> Is it something to do with MTU?
[20:26] <explodes> test :D
[20:27] <fushitaka> So I am not the only one testing this :)
[20:27] <olmari> ref: I'd like to utilize gpg2.1 offering of ed25519 as encryption key, but libgcrypt20 is too old
[20:27] <fedoen> joshuaebbymathe: if it's not default 1500, you should change
[20:27] <necron> hola
[20:27] <joshuaebbymathe> It says automatic now, I'll change to 1500
[20:28] <fedoen> joshuaebbymathe: try ifconfig
[20:28] <necron> hola a todo el mundo
[20:28] <fedoen> joshuaebbymathe: automatic should give you 1500, unless the switch is setup different
[20:28] <necron> hi
[20:29] <joshuaebbymathe> Switch's MTU is 1504
[20:29] <fedoen> joshuaebbymathe: if you played with the switch MTU, you should give your box the same
[20:29] <necron> ????????????
[20:29] <olmari> necron: ho
[20:29] <olmari> fedoen, joshuaebbymathe: well MTU is still "only" the max... even if switch can do MTU 9000, it does not mean all lcient's have to
[20:30] <joshuaebbymathe> It's an unmanaged L2 switch, so the default is 1504 there
[20:30] <curlyears> computer      :once again, there is no point to ";zeroing" the drive prior to formatting it.  Formatting it will remove ANY content it current carries
[20:30] <fedoen> joshuaebbymathe: cisco?
[20:30] <joshuaebbymathe> Dlink
[20:31] <necron> alguien habla español??
[20:31] <curlyears> ooops, sorry, lost track in the scroll, ignore that last message
[20:31] <\9> !es | necron
[20:31] <fedoen> joshuaebbymathe: not an expert here again, but usually defaults are working fine
[20:31] <olmari> necron: I suspect there might be spanish language ubuntu channel
[20:31] <necron> gracias ubottu
[20:31] <joshuaebbymathe> Yes, I never had to touch MTU before
[20:32] <slee> hi, when does 14.04 support stop?
[20:32] <dax> slee: April 2019
[20:32] <slee> a friend is telling me a repo is dead in her updates: http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ trusty
[20:32] <slee> i just tried loading that url, i get a 404
[20:32] <fedoen> joshuaebbymathe: check that on windows also
[20:33] <necron> adios
[20:33] <dax> slee: that URL loads fine for me, the " trusty" part is not part of the URL
[20:33] <joshuaebbymathe> Sure, give me 5 mins pls, while I reboot
[20:33] <nacc_> slee: but it roughly translates to http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/trusty/, which also loads for me
[20:33] <slee> sorry, it does for me as well, i typoed
[20:33] <slee> thanks for the help
[20:33] <fedoen> joshuaebbymathe: since the windows machine is working, the problem is only on the ubuntu network config somewhere
[20:34] <necron> bye people
[20:34] <joshuaebbymathe> I am changing the switch as well
[20:34] <joshuaebbymathe> I might disconnect for couple of minutes
[20:35] <fedoen> joshuaebbymathe: switch shouldn't be a problem, but you might try that too
[20:36] <fedoen> joshuaebbymathe: for windows you have route print command to see all routes
[20:36] <fedoen> afk
[20:36] <Bashing-om> joshuaebbymathe: I may not know much .. but you do have to be able to ping your gateway . Until you can not are going nowhere . identify the gateway IP .
[20:41] <joshuaebbymathe> Changed switch. Matched Win10 network setting. But it is not working!
[20:41] <joshuaebbymathe> Win10 it is working still
[20:41] <fedoen> joshuaebbymathe: did you also check all routes on win10?
[20:41] <joshuaebbymathe> yes
[20:41] <fedoen> same on ubuntu?
[20:41] <joshuaebbymathe> No routes are written
[20:41] <joshuaebbymathe> Same as Ubuntu
[20:42] <joshuaebbymathe> Did route print in win10
[20:43] <joshuaebbymathe> I was thinking of trying 15.04 :(
[20:43] <Ben64> 15.04 is EOL
[20:43] <pOY> anyone have the xps 13?
[20:44] <Guest83188> hello D:
[20:44] <fedoen> joshuaebbymathe: I'm afraid mi knowledge stops here, from now it's trial and error
[20:44] <joshuaebbymathe> fedoen: Thank you so much far! I really appreciate
[20:44] <fedoen> joshuaebbymathe: maybe some more experienced network admins can point you in the right way
[20:45] <joshuaebbymathe> I'll try with 15.04 and see where it goes :)
[20:45] <Ben64> joshuaebbymathe: don't, it's not supported
[20:45] <fedoen> joshuaebbymathe: ubuntu networking is pretty much the same
[20:46] <fedoen> joshuaebbymathe: not sure that would help
[20:46] <joshuaebbymathe> On the same machine I had 15.04 and it was working earlier
[20:46] <nacc_> joshuaebbymathe: i'd try 15.10 over 15.04, for sure
[20:46] <Ben64> lets say it does work, it's still pointless because 15.04 is EOL
[20:46] <joshuaebbymathe> was thinking of trying out all the options
[20:46] <fedoen> joshuaebbymathe: did you upgrade from 15.04?
[20:46] <joshuaebbymathe> This is a clean install
[20:47] <joshuaebbymathe> But first noticed the problem after I upgraded
[20:47] <joshuaebbymathe> from 15.10
[20:47] <Ben64> what version joshuaebbymathe
[20:47] <joshuaebbymathe> Ben64: the current one is 16.04 lts
[20:47] <nacc_> i don't know much (anything) about windows, but it seems weird for windows routing table to be empty...
[20:47] <joshuaebbymathe> It is not empty, but the gateway etc. matched
[20:47] <fedoen> joshuaebbymathe: I did an upgrade from 15.10 and have some issues with bluetooh headset which where working and empathy yahoo still doesn't connect
[20:47] <Ben64> joshuaebbymathe: yep thats the one you should be using
[20:48] <PaulePanter> Hi. How does Unity handle the laptop screen backlight? Does it use D-Bus?
[20:48] <fedoen> joshuaebbymathe: I can live with that tho, but no network is bad
[20:48] <nacc_> joshuaebbymathe: "13:41 < joshuaebbymathe> No routes are written"
[20:49] <joshuaebbymathe> fedoen: I will try 15.10
[20:49] <joshuaebbymathe> nacc_: I meant I have not written any explicit routes in Win
[20:49] <nacc_> joshuaebbymathe: oh i see
[20:49] <fedoen> joshuaebbymathe: no difference actually unless you want mir
[20:49] <computer> people does ubuntu support NTFS file system?
[20:49] <nacc_> computer: yes, i believe it does
[20:49] <sebsebseb> computer: yes it does
[20:49] <k1l> computer: not as system FS
[20:49] <fedoen> joshuaebbymathe: which after a few seconds of testing I trew away
[20:50] <sebsebseb> computer: for external hard disks and usbs, not an install though
[20:50] <computer> ok excellent
[20:50] <computer> thanks people
[20:50] <joshuaebbymathe> do you recommend 16.10?
[20:50] <thinky_> nite all
[20:50] <joshuaebbymathe> Is it even out yet?
[20:50] <sebsebseb> no
[20:50] <nacc_> no
[20:50] <sebsebseb> pe
[20:50] <nacc_> heh
[20:50] <thinky_> thx for your helps
[20:51] <k1l> joshuaebbymathe: its not out. it will be released in october 2016 (that is the name, btw)
[20:51] <fedoen> 15.10 was ok
[20:51] <\9> joshuaebbymathe: 16.10 won't be out for another 6 months
[20:51] <\9> or is it 5 months now
[20:52] <joshuaebbymathe> I think I have a copy of 15.10; I will try and come back in an hour
[20:52] <joshuaebbymathe> :)
[20:52] <fedoen> 16.04 it's the same, except maybe from some obscure setting I don't use
[20:52] <pOY> got an issue with unity tweak tool, when i set the window buttons to the right hand side the setting gets ingnored and nothing happens
[20:52] <\9> i still need to upgrade to 16.04
[20:52] <Ben64> joshuaebbymathe: just use 16.04 and fix the problem, don't create more by using a release that will die in 2 months
[20:52] <\9> I'm just a bit concerned about the loss of fglrx
[20:52] <joshuaebbymathe> Thanks fedoen!
[20:52] <fedoen> joshuaebbymathe: sorry it didn't work
[20:52] <joshuaebbymathe> Ben46: this is just to test
[20:53] <joshuaebbymathe> No problem fedoen:
[20:53] <joshuaebbymathe> Thanks everyone :)
[20:54] <fedoen> Ben64: 16.04 still has some issues, tho I'm not sure networking is on the list
[20:54] <zaffy> joshuaebbymathe, just try with a live. don't need to install
[20:54] <fedoen> zaffy: he said live is the same
[20:54] <Ben64> fedoen: it's fine
[20:55] <fedoen> back to my question: bluetooth headset on 16.04?
[20:57] <nacc_> fedoen: that's not a question? :) what's the issue?
[20:58] <fedoen> nacc_:  need step by step guidance actually, I've tried everything I could find or imagine
[20:58] <nacc_> fedoen: let me see if my bluetooth headset is charged
[20:58] <fedoen> nacc_: had them working, after reboot they sometimes connect, sometimes they don't
[21:00] <fedoen> nacc_: I removed all I could find bluetooth related and reinstalled blueman and pulseaudio-module-bluetooth, they worked, but I had to take out the dongle and plug back in to get a connection, now that doesn't work anymore
[21:00] <fedoen> nacc_: sometimes I get sound but it breaks out...
[21:02] <nacc_> fedoen: hrm, yeah, i got sound for a few seconds and then it switched back to my laptop's speakers, and i see a bit of a flood of hci0 errors in dmesg
[21:03] <fedoen> nacc_: thanks for confirming, I thought it's just my setup
[21:03] <nacc_> fedoen: i've often had the issue of having to remove my headset before every pairing (in 15.10 and earlier)
[21:04] <fedoen> nacc_: I got it working eventually on 15.10 and never needed setup again, had some trouble there too, but after the first successful connection everytime it connected without trouble
[21:05] <nacc_> fedoen: yeah, that's roughly my experience, i guess i haven't tried in 16.04 since updating
[21:05] <fedoen> nacc_: after upgrade to 16.04 - only troubles
[21:05] <nacc_> fedoen: i end up using the headphone jack and built-in mic
[21:05] <nacc_> fedoen: testing again to make sure it's reproducible
[21:05] <fedoen> nacc_:  you can test forever, same results :)
[21:06] <squinty> fedoen, same problems here with bluetooth and dmesg reports missing firmwaree
[21:06] <nacc_> fedoen: mine is staying connected now
[21:06] <nacc_> letting it run for a bit
[21:06] <fedoen> nacc_:  fun thing is  it worked for a few days and now back to trouble and can't get it working
[21:07] <nacc_> fedoen: well, i'm using my bluetooth headset right now, so that much is different
[21:07] <nacc_> bluetooth controllers are notoriously finicky and don't always follow the spec, iirc
[21:07] <fedoen> nacc_:  once connected you won't have troubles until next reboot or disconnect
[21:07] <fedoen> what do you have installed?
[21:08] <nacc_> fedoen: how do you mean?
[21:08] <fedoen> blueman?
[21:08] <fedoen> bluedevil?
[21:08] <ANONYMOUS> hi
[21:08] <nacc_> fedoen: it's running off the gnome-control-center bluetooth configuration
[21:08] <fedoen> that's bluedevil I think
[21:09] <Guest83883> your are using msfconsole?
[21:09] <nacc_> fedoen: no, bluedevil is not installed
[21:09] <Guest83883> ok ok
[21:09] <nacc_> fedoen: 'bluez' package which provides bluetoothd
[21:10] <nacc_> fedoen: and that seems to be the backend driven by gnome's configuration
[21:10] <Guest83883> you are hacking bluetooth
[21:10] <fedoen> nacc_: bluez I think gets installed as dependency on all bluetooth packages
[21:10] <nacc_> fedoen: i don't have either bluedevil or blueman installed
[21:10] <fedoen> nacc_: is your headset provided with handsfree for mobile?
[21:10] <nacc_> fedoen: i don't know what that is :)
[21:11] <Guest83883> nacc: are you hacking?
[21:11] <squinty> gnome-bluetooth
[21:11] <fedoen> nacc_: in sound settings what profiles do you have
[21:11] <Guest83883> i haven't got any
[21:11] <squinty> Guest83883,  stop with the foolishness please
[21:11] <nacc_> fedoen: HSP/HFP and A2DP sinnk
[21:11] <Guest83883> hey
[21:12] <nacc_> *sink
[21:12] <Guest83883> ok ok
[21:12] <fedoen> I will try a cleaning of bluetooth and go for gnome-bluetooth only
[21:12] <nacc_> fedoen: i will notice quality is terrible
[21:12] <nacc_> fedoen: but that might be because the headset battery is about to die :)
[21:12] <fedoen> nacc_: lol
[21:12] <fedoen> nacc_: you connected to HSP/HFP
[21:12] <nacc_> squinty: they are acting like a bot that was on here a few days ago, fwiw
[21:12] <nacc_> fedoen: yeah, I think that was the default
[21:13] <nacc_> fedoen: I can switch it if you want
[21:13] <squinty> nacc_,  ahhhh  ok thanks
[21:13] <fedoen> nacc_: try A2DP sink - that's what provides hyfy sound
[21:13] <lewis1711> good morning. what's the significance of an ssh service vs an sshd service? for example, I have a /etc/ssh/ssh_config, but no sshd_config
[21:13] <Guest83883> hey what are use the webcam hack in android with metasploit I don't know
[21:13] <fedoen> and no you can't
[21:13] <fedoen> at least for me it breaks
[21:13] <orlock> lewis1711: client vs daemon
[21:13] <dax> lewis1711: ssh_config is for the ssh client, not a service. sshd_config is for the server
[21:13] <nacc_> fedoen: will try
[21:13] <dax> lewis1711: if you're missing the latter, you probably don't have openssh-server installed
[21:14] <fedoen> nacc_: if it works I get back too gnome bluetooth :)
[21:14] <lewis1711> dax: right. I am trying to clone a git repository through ssh. so I need the daemon?
[21:14] <nacc_> fedoen: trying to figure out how to get gnome sound daemon to let me force it to a2dp, it keeps going back
[21:14] <nacc_> lewis1711: no, you only need the daemon to give access ssh to your machine to others
[21:15] <dax> lewis1711: no, what you have should be fine for that
[21:15] <lewis1711> huh. I am trying to add "AllowUsers git" but I am constantly told it's a bad configuration otpion
[21:15] <orlock> lewis1711: do you host the git repository too?
[21:15] <orlock> rather than cloning one elsewhere?
[21:15] <lewis1711> orlock: no, it's hosted on the machine I am trying to ssh into
[21:15] <fedoen> nacc_: tho my experience got me trough using blueman which lets you connect to audiosink on headset and select A2DP sink as audio profile
[21:16] <jayjo_> WHere can i edit the location of my meta key? The system prefernces > keyboard option doesn't have anything available to adjust
[21:16] <nacc_> lewis1711: you should just be doing `git clone git+ssh://...` right?
[21:16] <dax> lewis1711: AllwUsers is something one would configure on the computer you're hosting the repository with, not the computer you're cloning on
[21:16] <dax> AllowUsers*
[21:16] <orlock> lewis1711: well whoever runs that machine will be wanting to install ssh - Or, just use git
[21:16] <lewis1711> nacc_: correct
[21:16] <lewis1711> dax: ah!!! right
[21:16] <nacc_> lewis1711: then "AllowUsers" is not relevant
[21:16] <fedoen> nacc_: sometimes I could select A2DP only from pavucontrol (pulse audio volume controller)
[21:17] <nacc_> lewis1711: just run the `git-clone` :)
[21:17] <nacc_> fedoen: let me try that
[21:18] <nacc_> fedoen: pavucontrol also doesn't seem to let me set it to a2dp :/
[21:19] <fedoen> nacc_: that's the hell I live in
[21:19] <nacc_> fedoen: weird ... "[pulseaudio] module-bluez5-device.c: Refused to switch profile to a2dp_sink: Not connected"
[21:19] <nacc_> fedoen: that's from syslog
[21:19] <fedoen> nacc_: been there :)
[21:20] <fedoen> fedoen: try to remove and repair the headset
[21:20] <fedoen> :P
[21:20] <fedoen> nacc_: remove and repair sometimes works
[21:20] <fedoen> nacc_: can I pm you with my email? it's late here, but you get it working let me know ok?
[21:21] <nacc_> fedoen: sure
[21:23] <fedoen> nacc_: let me know if you get better results, and if you get them working don't celebrate just yet, try again after reboot :)
[21:24] <fedoen> bye for now
[21:24] <fedoen> 00:24 here
[21:28] <wgwz> having some trouble with a linux mint install. it's been installed for about a year now. recently played around with some shit that i probably shouldn't have and i can't boot.
[21:29] <merced> what'd you play around with?
[21:29] <wgwz> i was attempting to play a game through wine. played around with some graphics drivers stuff.
[21:29] <squinty> !mint
[21:30] <wgwz> also around the same time i updated a newer arch linux that i have on a different hdd in the same box.
[21:30] <wgwz> (alright i'll move over to #linuxmint-help)
[21:32] <EldonMcGuinness> I really wish empathy had a way to hide part/join in irc
[21:33] <k1l> EldonMcGuinness: you could use a real irc client
[21:33] <merced> use irssi
[21:33] <k1l> !quietirc
[21:33] <EldonMcGuinness> yea, I'm coming to that conclusion heh
[21:33] <EldonMcGuinness> I normally use irssi, but thought why not give empathy a go
[21:35] <merced> i use revolve.pl with irssi
[21:49] <michael_> quit
[21:56] <eset> is there a simple way to upgrade mysql 5.1 to min 5.5 on Ubuntu 10.04 ?
[21:56] <robb_nl> 10.04 is out of support... you sure you want that?
[21:56] <eset> robb_nl: it's not up to me right now
[21:56] <Bashing-om> 10.04 | eset
[21:57] <Bashing-om> !10.04
[21:58] <eset> Bashing-om: yeah I know that but that wasn't what I asked :)
[21:58] <bazhang> eset, you cannot
[21:58] <a_s_s_f_u_c_k> How do I find out what graphics card I have?
[21:58] <bazhang> eset, you could upgrade to  a supported version
[21:59] <robb_nl> eset, there is a good step by step here: https://www.coursera.org/learn/python/
[21:59] <robb_nl> oops
[21:59] <eset> bazhang: so I have only one way, from source
[21:59] <dax> a_s_s_f_u_c_k: change the nick to something appropriate, please
[21:59] <eset> robb_nl: http://ronaldbradford.com/blog/upgrading-to-mysql-5-5-on-ubuntu-10-04-lts-2013-01-22/ ?
[21:59] <robb_nl> wrong link... http://www.ovaistariq.net/490/a-step-by-step-guide-to-upgrading-to-mysql-5-5/
[21:59] <robb_nl> better
[22:01] <Mir_Poweredge> hello.  i am having an issue booting to the Xubuntu iso.  i get the quick splash and then i get a black screen with a blinking underscore.  the machine remains unresponsive during this time.  this is xubuntu 32bit
[22:01] <robb_nl> sad
[22:02] <Mir_Poweredge> i had a similar issue after installing ubuntu from the ubuntu server cd and booted to the installed system
[22:02] <ratrace> dax: ban first, kick second. see? he's autoback
[22:02] <dax> ratrace: I know how to op. I wasn't intending to ban him, and didn't.
[22:02] <dax> Seems he got the point anyway.
[22:02] <ovolenny> hola
[22:03] <ratrace> trolly trolls :)
[22:03] <ovolenny> hola quien abla espanol
[22:03] <ovolenny> ?
[22:03] <genii> !es | ovolenny
[22:06] <M4RC3LLUS> Can anyone tell me if the Ubuntu 16.04 GNOME release on the Ubuntu site is for AMD CPUs only?
[22:07] <\9> M4RC3LLUS: it wouldn't make any sense for them to be
[22:07] <M4RC3LLUS> I made a live USB, and I'm able to boot to it fine in the "Try Ubuntu before installing" option, and it works perfectly fine, but After installing I get an error that it can't fine the filesystem
[22:08] <bitchin_camaro> MannyLNJ: intel or amd
[22:08] <bitchin_camaro> MannyLNJ: sorry
[22:08] <bitchin_camaro> M4RC3LLUS: intel or amd
[22:08] <M4RC3LLUS> bitchin_camaro: intel
[22:09] <bitchin_camaro> M4RC3LLUS: both wil work
[22:09] <Mir_Poweredge> M4RC3LLUS, i am having a similar but different issue
[22:10] <\9> how did you partition the system, then? this doesn't sound like a very CPU-related issue
[22:10] <Mir_Poweredge> seems the install i did using the server disc workd but i need to boot into rescue mode and drop to a root shell
[22:10] <Mir_Poweredge> weird
[22:11] <Mir_Poweredge> i never had this much headache incusing flustration with 14.04 Y_Y
[22:11] <M4RC3LLUS> Mir_Poweredge: Ouch. What error did you get?
[22:12] <Mir_Poweredge> none
[22:12] <Mir_Poweredge> the system freezes
[22:13] <M4RC3LLUS> Mir_Poweredge: I got a kernal panic not synching error regarding init
[22:13] <M4RC3LLUS> Boot-Repair didn't work
[22:14] <Mir_Poweredge> thats the same issue i got on another machine.  i have systemd on it... not init
[22:14] <Mir_Poweredge> :/
[22:15] <M4RC3LLUS> Ouch
[22:17] <Queenslayer> EriC^^, you escaped from Linux?
[22:18] <merced> there is no escape
[22:18] <Queenslayer> Was I that bad?
[22:22] <boriseto> I'm using Ubuntu 16.04 on a Lenovo laptop and can't suspend it to ram at all. It just gets stuck to black screen and the fans start getting really loud. It was just fine with 14.04. Any ideas?
[22:22] <psaux> i desire to know, how can i install my intel drivers for run dota 2.
[22:22] <R0binh00d> boriseto, do you have nVidia graphics?>
[22:23] <Mir_Poweredge> boriseto, i know your issue well
[22:23] <boriseto> R0binh00d, nope, Intel+AMD
[22:23] <Mir_Poweredge> boriseto, it could be Nvidia drivers or it could be an issue with plymouth
[22:23] <boriseto> Mir_Poweredge, is it a common issue with this release or..? Is there some info somewhere?
[22:23] <psaux> it's saying that my graphic must suport at least opengl v3.1
[22:24] <Mir_Poweredge> boriseto, every thinkpad i have up to the T410 has an issue on not just ubuntu but every other distro using plymouth and splashy
[22:25] <boriseto> Mir_Poweredge, I understand. But it is weird that it worked great on 14.04. Was it different for that version, did it use something else instead plymouth?
[22:25] <Mir_Poweredge> dunno
[22:25] <Mir_Poweredge> i am having loads of issues wi5th 16.04
[22:25] <ratrace> boriseto: 16.04 dropped support for the proprietary radeon iirc
[22:25] <boriseto> Mir_Poweredge, me too, to the point that I'm going back to the 14.04 release.
[22:26] <Mir_Poweredge> that is true but shouldnt be an issue as MESA is better than the blob from AMD
[22:26] <boriseto> ratrace, yeah, not using fglrx, but radeon driver instead (and waiting for the AMDGPU update)
[22:26] <Mir_Poweredge> much more stable imho
[22:26] <ratrace> all I know, and this has been like forever, Linux + Radeon = Pain.
[22:26] <boriseto> Mir_Poweredge, true, I'm actually surprised how better the radeon (mesa) driver is.
[22:26] <ratrace> if you wanna run Linux, make sure it's intel or nvidia graphics.
[22:26] <Mir_Poweredge> anywho good luck boriseto ...
[22:26] <boriseto> ratrace, I don't have any issues when playing games... Mir_Poweredge, thanks.
[22:29] <gde33> how do we make the middle click open in new tab work in the firefox?
[22:30] <gde33> for bookmarks and if at all possible for folders of bookmarks
[22:31] <gde33> or just open in new tabs by default?
[22:32] <bull> guys
[22:34] <yodak> hi
[22:35] <PenguinMan98> lo
[22:35] <afeijo> funny, I updated my ubuntu to 16.04 and now xchat is gone?
[22:35] <dax> !xchat
[22:35] <afeijo> I had to install pidgin
[22:35] <afeijo> thanks, bot
[22:35] <afeijo> thanks, dax
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[22:35] <bull> am using hexchat
[22:35] <afeijo> bull: is it good?
[22:35] <afeijo> I'll test it
[22:35] <afeijo> pidgin is nice tho
[22:37] <Queenslayer> How I do start my Ubuntu from scratch?
[22:38] <Queenslayer> Like reset it
[22:38] <Queenslayer> 'Factory reset'
[22:38] <Bashing-om> Queenslayer: Back up yoour personal data, and re-install .
[22:38] <Queenslayer> Got none
[22:38] <tgm4883> Queenslayer: better to start by stating what is wrong
[22:39] <Queenslayer> tgm4883, my understaning of Linux is what's wrong
[22:39] <Queenslayer> *understanding
[22:39] <tgm4883> Queenslayer: why do you want to start from scratch?
[22:39] <bull> thoughts about snappy please
[22:39] <Queenslayer> tgm4883, I installed some files
[22:39] <bull> it sucks in my case
[22:40] <Queenslayer> And don't know where they are
[22:40] <Queenslayer> Because it's new
[22:40] <Queenslayer> I want to start from scratch
[22:40] <tgm4883> Queenslayer: that doesn't seem like a reason to want to "start from scratch"
[22:40] <tgm4883> why not just search for the files?
[22:40] <Queenslayer> I don't know which packages were installed
[22:40] <tgm4883> Queenslayer: how did you install them?
[22:41] <Queenslayer> It's Private Internet Access
[22:41] <Queenslayer> VPN
[22:41] <Queenslayer> And they've got some weird instructions
[22:41] <spartan2276> How Can mount a directory to /dev/sdb1 at boot time?
[22:41] <tgm4883> spartan2276: that doesn't make sense
[22:42] <tgm4883> spartan2276: I think you mean mount /dev/sdb1 to a directory right?
[22:42] <tgm4883> !fstab | spartan2276
[22:42] <spartan2276> here is my fstab file http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/16382902/
[22:43] <tgm4883> spartan2276: ok
[22:43] <spartan2276> tgm4883 that is what I meant
[22:43] <Queenslayer> tgm4883, installed them via command line
[22:43] <tgm4883> spartan2276: what's the issue?
[22:43] <Queenslayer> downloaded installer.sh
[22:43] <Queenslayer> And ran that
[22:43] <spartan2276> but for some reason it will not mount
[22:43] <tgm4883> spartan2276: does /shared exist?
[22:43] <spartan2276> yes
[22:44] <tgm4883> spartan2276: so do 'sudo mount /dev/sdb1 /shared'
[22:44] <tgm4883> see if there are any errors
[22:44] <spartan2276> tgm4883 it only has read access only
[22:44] <Mir_Poweredge> well doing a smart test on the drive revealed some things to me... http://susepaste.org/97737596
[22:44] <tgm4883> Queenslayer: ok, so in order to "start from scratch" you will need to reinstall
[22:44] <spartan2276> tgm4883 I can't umount
[22:44] <Queenslayer> yeah tgm4883
[22:44] <tgm4883> spartan2276: I thought you said it wasn't mounted
[22:45] <tgm4883> Queenslayer: seems like you have clear next steps. Not sure what else you want
[22:45] <ratrace> Queenslayer: so first lesson, never install random packages from the net like that.
[22:45] <Queenslayer> lol
[22:46] <Queenslayer> ratrace, never have truer word been spoken
[22:46] <Queenslayer> tgm4883, I was hoping there'd be a reset function like Windows
[22:46] <spartan2276> tgm4883 I got this while running that command 'mount: special device /dev/sdb1 does not exist'
[22:46] <Queenslayer> Or even Android
[22:46] <Queenslayer> lol
[22:47] <EldonMcGuinness> That is what backups are for Queenslayer
[22:47] <tgm4883> Queenslayer: sorry, there is not
[22:47] <Queenslayer> EldonMcGuinness, I'll do that as soon as I've got things sorted back to 'stock'
[22:48] <EldonMcGuinness> Welp have you made many changes/customizations?
[22:48] <tgm4883> spartan2276: so you don't have a second drive
[22:48] <Queenslayer> yup EldonMcGuinness
[22:49] <Queenslayer> It's a dual boot
[22:49] <spartan2276> tgm4883 yes I do it has been working fine until server reboot
[22:50] <tgm4883> spartan2276: what is the output of "ls /dev/sd*"
[22:50] <spartan2276> tgm4883 when I run fdisk -l I get this http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/16382956/
[22:50] <tgm4883> spartan2276: ok correction. You have an unpartitioned second disk
[22:51] <tgm4883> spartan2276: what is the output of "sudo blkid"
[22:51] <spartan2276> tgm4883 but there is data in that directory that folks write data to on a daily basis
[22:52] <spartan2276> tgm4883 /dev/sda1: UUID="331e2aeb-2a0c-4b7d-8844-56227db2e0d0" TYPE="ext4"
[22:52] <spartan2276> /dev/sda5: UUID="3c3310c4-0ea4-4970-85e6-b8c0a38ec93b" TYPE="swap"
[22:52] <spartan2276> /dev/sdb: LABEL="shared" UUID="6e104c56-43b7-4e46-be2c-f670f33dbd08" TYPE="ext4"
[22:52] <tgm4883> spartan2276: ok, how about this "sudo mount /dev/sdb /shared"
[22:53] <spartan2276> tgm4883 mount: /dev/sdb already mounted or /shared busy
[22:53] <spartan2276> mount: according to mtab, /dev/sdb is already mounted on /shared
[22:53] <tgm4883> spartan2276: how about pastebin the output of 'mount'
[22:54] <spartan2276> tgm4883 http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/16382996/
[22:55] <tgm4883> spartan2276: ok, so it thinks it's mounted
[22:55] <tgm4883> spartan2276: but you are saying that it isn't mounted?
[22:55] <spartan2276> yes but I can't access it
[22:55] <tgm4883> spartan2276: do you have permission to access it?
[22:55] <spartan2276> is there anyway to umount and then mount it with r/w
[22:56] <tgm4883> spartan2276: what's the output of "ls -l /shared"
[22:57] <spartan2276> tgm4883 ls -l /shared
[22:57] <spartan2276> total 56
[22:57] <spartan2276> drwx------ 24 root     root       49152 Nov 11  2015 lost+found
[22:57] <spartan2276> drwxrwx---  3 www-data www-data    4096 Feb 12  2015 owncloud
[22:57] <spartan2276> drwxrwxrwx 69 homer    sambashare  4096 Mar 22 16:22 user_data
[22:57] <tgm4883> spartan2276: thats.... mounted
[22:58] <spartan2276> tgm4883 yes but for some reason I can't access the data
[22:58] <spartan2276> can we force umount and then mount it again
[22:58] <tgm4883> spartan2276: what happens when you try to touch a file in there
[22:58] <spartan2276> touch?
[22:58] <tgm4883> spartan2276: "touch testfilename"
[23:00] <tgm4883> spartan2276: you would need to do that in one of the directories that you say you can't access
[23:01] <msrishiva> hg
[23:02] <spartan2276> tgm4883 touch: cannot touch ‘/shared/user_data/Rey_backup/webmin_1.730_all.deb’: Read-only file system
[23:03] <tgm4883> spartan2276: ok, so then what I would do is look through /var/log/syslog and see what errors it threw in regards to your /dev/sdb drive
[23:03] <spartan2276> tgm4883 there is no way to give it write access again
[23:04] <tgm4883> spartan2276: well you could remount it rw, but if it was mine I would at least try to see what the errors were
[23:07] <avkasc> Hello
[23:07] <guest-jn3yvg> hi
[23:11] <EldonMcGuinness> Queenslayer: If it is dual boot then why not just back and reinstall?
[23:11] <EldonMcGuinness> Surely you have a bit of room on the drive somewhere no?
[23:11] <Queenslayer> EldonMcGuinness, Yup
[23:12] <Queenslayer> I'll just format the drive
[23:12] <Queenslayer> EldonMcGuinness, I had a real big issue with the UEFI thing
[23:12] <EldonMcGuinness> and don't forget to backup that install! :D
[23:12] <Queenslayer> and EriC^^ was there to help
[23:12] <touil76>  Hello. I would like to say that I found a bug with my video driver and that it has been solved applying a patch to the source of the driver. The bug is here : https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xserver-xorg-video-ati/+bug/1577170
[23:12] <Queenslayer> If I do it again I'm going to have to run through all those steps on my own
[23:16] <spartan2276> tgm4883 for now I just need to mount it as there are some folks who need to us it
[23:16] <tgm4883> spartan2276: then look up how to remount a drive as rw
[23:16] <spartan2276> tgm4883 when I get to the office tomorrow I can actually take a look at the RAID partition and see what is going on
[23:17] <EldonMcGuinness> Queenslayer: What steps did you have to do? Disable secureboot?
[23:17] <Queenslayer> lol
[23:17] <Queenslayer> Eldon I've got a log of that
[23:17] <Queenslayer> And it's massive
[23:18] <Queenslayer> To be frank, I don't even know what was done for the most part
[23:18] <Queenslayer> But it was essentially converting to uefi
[23:18] <Queenslayer> I'd installed on legacy
[23:18] <spartan2276> tgm4883 mount: cannot remount block device /dev/sdb read-write, is write-protected
[23:19] <tgm4883> spartan2276: sounds like your raid controller is stopping you
[23:19] <tgm4883> spartan2276: do you have backups?
[23:20] <EldonMcGuinness> interesting, welp good luck with that!
[23:21] <spartan2276> tgm4883 I'm not sure as someone else is in charge of the backups. I hope so
[23:22] <tgm4883> spartan2276: I hope so too
[23:24] <Mir_Poweredge> if windows 7 doesnt work out agian... back to ubuntu
[23:36] <thalin> so have the ubuntu repos been acting weird lately? I'm getting errors like Failed to fetch http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/trusty-security/multiverse/binary-amd64/Packages 404 Not Found
[23:36] <thalin> there are now compressed Packages lists but apt doesn't seem to want to get them
[23:43] <zykotick9> Mason963: if you are using a PPA, report _ALL_ problems involving packages from that PPA, to the PPA maintainer (and not to ubuntu's bug-tracker).
[23:44] <Bashing-om> thalin: Pastebin ' sudo apt update 2>&1 | nc termbin.com 9999 ; sudo apt upgrade 2>&1 | nc termbin.com 9999 ' we see what the story is .
[23:44] <zykotick9> Mason963: personally, i'd avoid PPAs if at all possible... but ymmv...
[23:44] <Mason963> zykotick9: you saw my question on #debian?
[23:46] <Mason963> zykotick9: problem is not just with the PPA package, there is the v4 lib in the "base" repo, and the v5 lib in the PPA, and they are both marked as "Conflicts" with the other, although the devs say that it is possible to have the two side by side
[23:47] <lerner> can I play atari on ubuntu?
[23:48] <Mir_Poweredge> yes
[23:49] <lerner> how?
[23:50] <zykotick9> lerner: "apt search atari" from terminal might list some helpful packages...
[23:55] <lerner> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VIDD306aYhQ 01:59 whats the name of the game?
[23:56] <Darkelfjuggalo> I am on Ubuntu 16.04 LTS:  does anyone else ever connect a larger Monitor to their laptop via HDMI? I am trying to do so for the sake of Watching Streaming Video in my browser using my Toshiba TV as the larger Monitor, but when I plug it in, i get a blank Desktop, i see my unity bar for a few pixels off the left side of the screen, my tool bar at the top with Clock, Network, etc is pushed off, and any windows i open will no
[23:57] <R0binh00d> Darkelfjuggalo, I think you should try checking the options in display settings from the Control Panel
[23:58] <Darkelfjuggalo> detect displays while it is plugged in?