/srv/irclogs.ubuntu.com/2016/05/12/#xubuntu-devel.txt

bluesabreevening all01:13
Unit193Howdy, bluesabre.01:14
bluesabreochosi, knome: thoughts on including our own set of profile images?01:14
bluesabrehey Unit19301:14
bluesabrehow's it going?01:14
Unit193I'm alive.01:16
bluesabrehuzzah!01:16
knomebluesabre, yeah, especially if we can remove the defaults... :P01:27
knomecould be something we could cooperate on with pjotter01:27
bluesabregood idea01:28
knomeoff to bed, ttyl01:44
pavlushkaknome: tty bed, night02:14
flocculantbluesabre: any flashes of inspiration re thunar - or were the flashes a migraine still :)06:54
ochosibluesabre: yeah, why not07:04
* flocculant wouldn't have a clue what one is07:04
Unit193ochosi: Heya Xfce dude, are you keeping in sync well of which things are ported? :307:55
bluesabreflocculant: the only flashes are those of a deer in headlights09:43
ochosiUnit193: humm, i guess not, but it's a good idea, i'10:31
ochosill sit down tonight and update the roadmap10:31
ochosiunfortunately it only tracks the main components10:32
ochosistuff like clipman isn't there by definition10:32
knomemaybe it's time to add it10:33
flocculantbluesabre: nasty - don't get hit 11:07
ochosiknome: yeah, it's just a question of maintenance, but sure11:11
ochosiplus, only few people have write perms on the roadmap page11:11
knomeboo11:14
knomexfce should spread the love more11:14
flocculantyep11:22
flocculantworked for ubuntu and it's wiki :p11:23
knomehah11:23
knomeyou know well that this isn't the same11:23
flocculant:D11:23
flocculantknome: you about this evening at all? 11:23
knomeumm, should be aroundish most of day11:23
flocculantok - maybe spend a bit of time arguing about council later ...11:24
knome;)11:24
flocculantor we could discuss it :p11:24
knomewe could11:24
flocculant:)11:24
flocculantbe better methinks 11:25
* knome is hacking on the new tracker11:25
flocculant:)11:25
flocculantthis blueprinty business I assume11:25
knomeyep, and a bit more in the side11:25
flocculantlook forward to seeing that11:26
flocculantbut for now - bbl11:26
knomehf meanwhile11:26
flocculantunlikely - but I'll try ;)11:26
knomehaha11:26
ochosiUnit193: feel free to propose a list of what you know and i can extend it and then push it to the wiki page ;)12:35
flocculantknome: and I didn't ... 16:21
knomeawwh :)16:22
knomegot to go now but will bbl16:22
flocculantok - well I got things to sort for a while now anyway ofc - ping me when you're about again16:22
flocculantakxwi-dave: I'll bump the 'shall we shan't we' irc session thread soon - then decide 18:51
flocculants/then we can decide ...18:51
akxwi-daveok bud..18:56
flocculantI'll check out the social media accounts as well18:56
flocculantknome: about now for a couple of hours19:05
knomeflocculant, and i'm around now as well20:03
knomeflocculant, wife came back today (unexpected), that's why the change in availability..20:04
flocculantaah :)20:04
* knome opens the pad20:05
* flocculant does now he has tea20:06
* knome has bread, bacon, eggs and milk20:06
* flocculant had salad :(20:07
knomesalad is good too20:07
flocculantheh20:07
knomei heard it helps you live 40+ years20:07
flocculantthat's make me 20 \o/20:08
knomeso - the pad20:08
flocculantyup20:08
knomewhere shall we work with it?20:08
flocculanton it - at the bottom? 20:09
flocculantand use the chat thing perhaps20:09
pleia2flocculant: I am totally detatched from things, but I can speak to civs and the private addresses thing21:15
knomehooray21:15
pleia2flocculant: there's a script (I can hunt around for it) that first attempts to get public addresses, then it looks in the gpg key people have uploaded to see if they put an address there21:15
pleia2the optionally just assumes their address is lp-id@ubuntu.com (good for CC elections, not useful for us)21:16
pleia2s/the/then21:16
knomeheh21:16
pleia2but ultimately, it does require that the user is somehow leaking their email address somewhere, whether it's public or it's in a gpg key, if they have one21:16
knomeas long as it isn't leaking to their pants21:17
knomewe can probably make sure everybody who should be able to vote has one21:17
pleia2CIVS is a completely 3rd party thing though, there's no special relationship with Ubuntu or launchpad or anything21:17
knomeyep21:18
pleia2so there's no way for it to query for private addresses, even if I didn't think that was a horrible invasion of privacy21:18
pleia2(it is)21:18
pleia2this is the one reason the useless launchpad polls stuck around for so long21:18
knomemhm21:19
pleia2they were always awful, but it was the only real way to poll members of a team21:19
knomecan we alternatively just push in a bunch of emails which can vote?21:19
knomei don't think it's a big issue to gather that list, it's probably in each of our mail clients' address book anyway21:19
pleia2I don't know what this is for ;) but sure, there are ways to hunt down addresses21:21
knomecouncil21:23
knomevoting21:23
pleia2like, inside the council or voting for the council? (which may include like a zillion people in open lp teams)21:28
flocculantpleia2: I has that script21:28
pleia2flocculant: ah, good :)21:28
flocculantI has done the deed and have the loooooong list it gives us :)21:28
pleia2great21:28
pleia2can do the typical thing of "we grabbed your info from lp, if you didn't get an email, bug flocculant"21:29
flocculantas far as CIVS goes - we just add whatever addresses we want when we set that up21:29
pleia2yeah21:29
flocculantyup21:29
knomepleia2, it's likely we only let moderated teams vote21:29
knomepleia2, i mean, it's likely we propose that21:30
flocculantthe long and short of it is that x-dev includes ubuntu core dev21:31
flocculantso therefore so does x-art21:31
knomeright21:31
knomethen it should be ruled to direct members21:31
flocculantand thus we get addresses for people like infinity :)21:31
Unit193Let them vote!21:32
flocculantso effectively no-one currently outside -team is in a modded team21:33
flocculantlast cycle Dave akxwi would have been21:33
knomeyep, but you were talking about future-proofness21:34
knomeand if we happen to set up those community teams, then the situation might change21:34
flocculantyup - and that does that until someone joins something like -art or -dev21:34
flocculantbut as that's not likely to be 100's we can manually add the address21:35
knomeit's not related to the council really, but as i wrote in the pad, we should totally thrive (even) more towards an inclusive policy than an exclusive one21:35
flocculantyup21:36
flocculantknome: when you set up the CIVS thing - you could send it to foo@bar.god and it would try to send it - it just relies on *someone* manually adding addresses21:37
knomeoki21:37
flocculantso CIVS itself is something to forget about here21:37
knomewith our policies, it'll be like max 20 people who we need to add21:37
knomeso no problem21:37
flocculantyea21:38
flocculantoh crud21:38
flocculantagenda is immutable ... 21:38
knome:D21:38
knomenot for me21:38
flocculantoh well you can do that then :)21:39
knomedone21:39
flocculantand I'll mail you the long list of stuff to do with my dev mailing list :p21:39
knome:D21:39
flocculantbest slap ochosi about a bit until he sets the next meeting time :p21:40
knomewe could probably use a social policy that if the next chair hasn't scheduled next meeting in N days after the last one was over, the next one in line should21:41
knomeand the one that didn't schedule the meeting to be punished21:41
knomeso no free-riding!21:41
flocculantalmost21:42
flocculantthe last to not set gets to decide punishment for the first to not set after they've been punished :p21:42
flocculantoooh21:42
* flocculant gets to punish pleia2 if ochosi punishes him21:43
knomemaybe it's easier if you set that three-way up21:44
knome:P21:44
flocculant:p21:44
flocculantanyway - time for me to toddle off now, thanks knome :)21:44
flocculantnight all 21:44
knomenighty flocculant 21:45
knomeand thanks that way too21:45
flocculantwelcome21:45
* knome pours a beer21:45
flocculantseem to have an odd bug with ff if it has a pad open21:45
knomeoh meh this beer21:45
knome:D21:45
flocculantclose ff - and it clears text from a pad before closing down21:46
flocculantodd21:46
knomehmm21:46
flocculantanyway - night21:46
flocculantknome: appears to clear text from pad ... 21:46
knomenah, the pad is ok21:47
bluesabreevening allll21:59
knomehello bluesabre 22:00
bluesabrehey knome22:00
knomewhat's up today?22:05
bluesabrenot much22:10
knomenot even north?22:10
bluesabrehopefully... will get something done soon22:10
bluesabre:D22:10
bluesabreprobably work on the document templates, and work with Unit193 soon on splitting out our themes into individual packages22:11
knome:)22:22
knomeany plans for the appstream data?22:23
knomethat could be something easy enough for a new contributor to work on if you had any candidates and time to mentor22:23

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