[00:42] <xangua> Sudo apt-get install compton
[00:43] <xangua> I would share my config but I'm not on my desktop, you can find lots of online tho
[00:44] <xubuntu56> hello, anyone there? got a question about xubuntu core edition...which i have been unable to find an answer to via google fu
[00:47] <xubuntu56> The question is whether mobile broadband works out of the box in xubuntu core edition. To the best of my noob knowledge, usb_modeswitch, ppp and wvdial are necessary for my mobile dongle to function. And it's my only option of net connectivity
[00:48] <Unit193> wvdial is in the cd repo I believe, manifest lists the others as installed.
[00:50] <xubuntu56> oh, unit193 thank you very much for your prompt answer. I intend to download your 16.04 edition! Thank you so much for being a great xubuntu dev!
[00:51] <Unit193> Hah, thanks.  And yeah, wvdial is in the cd repo.
[00:52] <xubuntu56> Ok. The main problem is I'm pretty bandwidth constrained (hah!) hence the need for the xubuntu core edition. Once again, thanks for being an awesome dev on an awesome distro. :) Have a great day/night ahead. Leaving now to download! :) :
[00:53] <Unit193> http://docs.xubuntu.org/1604/user/C/appendix-packages.html keep that at hand, may be useful.
[00:56] <xubuntu56> Oh yes, that list will be useful. What do you think is the best way for me as a non-coder to contribute to Xubuntu, apart from using it and promoting it like hell to my friends!
[00:58] <xubuntu56> Edit: the bandwidth sun is shining and my download of the 555 mb Xubuntu Core 16.04 is speeding on.
[01:01] <Unit193> xubuntu56: Generally QA is a great way, but problem with that is that it may need a littlw b/w
[01:01] <Unit193> !contribute
[01:05] <xubuntu56> Ah yes quality assurance will require a little b/w, mainly reliable b/w. Well, I'll be sure to drop by sometime. Thanks a lot guys. xubuntu56 out.
[01:11] <WoodyPC> Just curious, But why is this Distro so Huge? I am using Ubuntu 14.04 LTS right now. But I had a customer call me today and request Xubuntu to be put on their new desktop that I am building for them. What does this have that makes it so big?
[01:15] <xangua> WoodyPC: languages
[01:15] <xangua> Or was that ubuntu? Mmm
[01:15] <WoodyPC> English
[01:15] <Unit193> dpkg-query -W --showformat='${Installed-Size}\t${Package}\n' | sort -nr | less
[01:16]  * squinty wonders "compared to what exactly?"
[01:17] <xangua> The ubuntu fits on a CD era finished long ago
[01:18] <bazhang> xangua, its going to 2gb
[01:20]  * squinty muses " a 2gig CD...who woulda thunk it?"
[01:22] <xangua> Introducing Xubuntu core « Xubuntu (http://xubuntu.org/news/introducing-xubuntu-core/) you can also try xubuntu core, but as with any minimal distro approach a normal person would end installing everything or even more what xubuntu comes with (office, gimp, vlc, etc.)
[03:25] <puff> I have a 32gb thumb drive that I want to format ntfs.
[04:37] <Xeno_> Hi is anyone here? I have a technical question....
[04:40] <Xeno_> apparently not ....
[04:47] <pavlushka> puff: use gparted
[04:48] <lucianadrs> aquele momento que vc larga o debian por causa de kernel panic e volta pro xubuntu
[05:15] <chuckmcm> man this is an annoying bug. So NUC5i7RHY, doesn't turn on the screen after something blanks it over time.
[05:16] <chuckmcm> Very weird because Ctl-Alt-Fx gets a tty screen but back to pty7 and boom, no screen. Kill -HUP the screen manager and it comes back but session clients are all dead
[05:17] <chuckmcm> by leaving a vim window open across the full screen in insert mode I can tell that as far as X is concerned the things should be visible
[05:17] <chuckmcm> but they aren't. (I proved that to myself by typing at the black screen which had a file open on a NAS device) and saving it and looking at the contents appearing on another system.
[05:40] <xubuntu20w> how do I run package manager
[05:43] <chuckmcm> which one xubuntu20w
[05:43] <chuckmcm> man dpkg
[05:43] <chuckmcm> man apt
[07:40] <ramanan> hello folks, I've  a problem with dropbox indicator in xfce panel installed in ubuntu 14.04.
[07:40] <ramanan> Does anyone have a solution?
[07:41] <ramanan> I'm running this and getting it to work. dropbox stop && dbus-launch dropbox start
[07:41] <ramanan> Is there a permanent fix?
[12:26] <knob2> Hey guys... I am having a problem with 16.04 that's is becoming difficult to work around.  Sometimes, Chromium gets "stuck"... and it doesn't refresh the view/content.  I can open new tabs, and I see the "window title" changing.... yet nothing is shown in the space for Chromium
[12:26] <knob2> Is this a known bug?  Or anybody has seen it and has an idea how to fix it?
[12:27] <knob2> Important info I forgot: It happens when I re-log in after having the screen locked via lightDM
[12:29] <knob> Here... sorry for the log in/out
[12:29] <knob> Anybody has seen that problem with Chromium?
[12:34] <akxwi-dave> sorry I haven't seen that
[12:47] <knob> akxwi-dave, thanks!  And out of curiosity: Your Xubuntu16.04 installation... was it an upgrade?  Or a fresh install?
[12:48] <akxwi-dave> i have both.. upgrade on laptop from15.10 and desktop fresh...
[12:53] <knob> Ok.  Thanks.  Just... checking everything I can.  It's an odd behaviour.  Everything is perfect... yet if the screen locks, when I come back, Chromium doesn't refresh/redraw.
[12:53] <knob> Will keep on googling
[12:55] <akxwi-dave> does chrome do the same thing?
[13:15] <knob> akxwi-dave, mm... lemme check
[13:15] <knob> don't have it installed
[13:17] <knob> installing now Chrome... will report back shortly
[13:21] <akxwi-dave> :-)
[13:52] <knob> akxwi-dave, installed Chrome... up until now, I haven't had the lock-up.  I'll check it out during the day!  Thanks
[13:52] <akxwi-dave> good to hear... :-)  good luck
[14:09] <knob> Well... nope.  Google Chrome also got stuck.   =\
[14:09] <knob> I'm going to just scratch this laptop tonight.  Rather do that than chase this.
[14:20] <roo79x>  hi all I have a problem with my dell latitude e5410 laptop. Every time I reboot or the screen goes blank (sleep) it gets lines across it and a high pitched squeal from the display? it only happens with ubuntu distros nothing else? can someone please advise me
[15:28] <iSlayWyverns> I suppose xubuntu is pretty stable, right?
[15:29] <iSlayWyverns> (since it's LTS, silly question I know)
[15:38] <GeekDude> iSlayWyverns: I'd say it depends on your hardware support
[15:38] <iSlayWyverns> i3-2100, hd5750 juniper (jupiter?) if u mean that... should be supported
[15:39] <GeekDude> Also, there are some known issues listed here https://xubuntu.org/news/xubuntu-16-04-release/
[15:41] <iSlayWyverns> GeekDude, good to know. Seems good for my needs
[18:03] <Noneatme> Hey all, I installed compton a while ago but it seems that my screen tearing on the second monitor re-appeared after I installed the libva radeon drivers from the xorg-edge repository
[18:03] <Noneatme> update today*
[18:05] <Noneatme> I get some errors when I start compton via terminal
[18:08] <Noneatme> I fixed it by installing xcompmgr
[18:08] <Noneatme> seems like I avoided my problem, well done
[18:23] <puff> Is there a command that shows you what processes are accessing the audio?
[18:23] <puff> I'm on xubuntu 14.04 LTS, I suspect it's some sort of alarm clock applet, every 5 seconds it beeps/pings 3 times.  I can't figure out how to turn it off.
[18:38] <Mint001> Hey guys. Flash is not working on chrome or firefox. I have installed, uninstalled & reinstalled pepperflash but at all times I am missing "/usr/lib/pepperflashplugin-nonfree/libpepflashplayer.so" Anyone any ideas what I can do ??
[18:39] <krytarik> !crosspost | Mint001
[18:40] <Mint001> sorry :/
[18:41] <Mint001> I'm just looking help :)
[18:52] <GeekDude> puff: If you open the "PulseAudio Volume Control" program and go to the playback tab, it should list applications that are playing audio (as well as give you some volume controls for them)
[19:16] <cajuntechie> Hello everyone. Just installed 16.04 and can't get GNOME Software to work no matter what I do. If I start it from scratch, it freezes and, like right now, I'm trying to install updates and it just keeps returning to the 'Install' option. Can anyone give me a clue what might be going on?
[19:21] <squinty> cajuntechie,  do it from the terminal   sudo apt update && sudo apt full-upgrade
[19:22] <cajuntechie> squinty: That's what I'm going to do. But, apparently, I need to restart since apt is left hanging in the background when software exits. Questions: why full-upgrade instead of just upgrade?
[19:24] <squinty> cajuntechie,  newer kernels etc since 16.04 was released
[19:25] <squinty> cajuntechie, the software center in unity is buggy too
[19:26] <puff> GeekDude: Thanks.
[19:26] <squinty> cajuntechie, btw, apt-get dist-upgrade or apt full-upgrade doesn't upgrade a system to a newer release ie 16.10
[19:27] <xangua> squinty: the "upgrade" part of the command it's a little confusing but of course it doesn't
[19:27] <xangua> ! Upgrade
[19:28] <puff> GeekDude: Is PulseAudio Volume Control  right-click-on-the-sound-icon and pick "Sound Settings"?
[19:28] <squinty> xangua,  why are you nit-picking?
[19:28] <flocculant> xangua: wrong - it does upgrade, it upgrades packages
[19:28] <puff> GeekDude: Also, I think I just guessed/remembered... that was the sound of my wireless headphones telling me they needed a recharge.  Sigh.
[19:29] <xangua> flocculant: squinty it doesn't do a "release upgrade"
[19:29] <GeekDude> puff:  That's quite amusing from my perspective. Glad you found your problem
[19:29] <squinty> xangua,  at one time using apt-get dist-upgrade with a change of the sources list to a new version was a recognized method of updating ubuntu
[19:29] <squinty> xang
[19:29] <xangua> squinty: it never was...
[19:30] <squinty> xangua, and that is *exactly* what i said
[19:30] <squinty> sigh
[19:30] <squinty> yes it was
[19:30] <puff> GeekDude: I remember going through the same process last time... what the f**k is making that beeping....
[19:30] <xangua> Maybe in Debian but never ubuntu, you might be referring to upgrading from an eol release
[19:30] <flocculant> rather than argue that here - do it in -offtopic
[19:30] <squinty> xangua, take your comments elsewhere please
[19:30] <flocculant> cajuntechie wanted to know why full-upgrade was recommended
[19:32] <puff> I think I remember what squinty is talking about, and yeah, it was in ubuntu too.
[19:33] <puff> That is, I remember that in debian, and I'm pretty certain it was in ubuntu too, in the early years (e.g. 2006 or so).
[19:34] <squinty> puff:  yes quite a few years now but not recommended any more.
[19:34] <flocculant> cajuntechie: you can install the old software center, package name is software-center - or use synaptic or apt/apt-get
[19:35] <puff> flocculant: Use aptitude.
[19:35] <flocculant> no thanks
[20:04] <lovexubuntu> 16.04 here I come.   thanks for everything you guys do.
[21:23] <cmcmanis> With some additional work on my NUC problem it seems like the system doesn't know it needs to tell the video output to turn itself on. DisplayPort status stays inactive
[21:27] <knome> cmcmanis, does 'xrandr -q' show the display you want to use?
[21:28] <cmcmanis> knome: yup. It even has the correct reso selected 2560 x 1440 x 59.5hz
[21:29] <cmcmanis> well 59.95hz
[21:29] <knome> try xrandr --output OUTPUT-NAME-HERE --auto
[21:31] <cmcmanis> holy crap, that woke it up!
[21:31] <cmcmanis> you are my new hero.
[21:33] <knome> did you look at the xfce display dialog?
[21:33] <cmcmanis> hmmm? Hang on let me switch to the actual display
[21:33] <knome> technically, it should get you the same results since you really didn't have problems recognising the display
[21:35] <chuckmcm> well there is no way, from the display, to do anything. I ran xrandr by ssh'ing into the system and setting $DISPLAY to :0
[21:35] <chuckmcm> I proved to myself that the underlying system was still awake by leaving a full screen vim session in insert mode writing to a file on an NFS server
[21:35] <knome> right...
[21:35] <knome> well anyway, there you go
[21:36] <chuckmcm> that let me show that I could type text and save it out and it appeared on the server even though the monitor was blank
[21:36] <chuckmcm> I suppose I could add a cron job that called this every hour on the hour or something
[21:36] <chuckmcm> kind of a grody hack but it helps point to the problem which, ideally, someone at Intel can address
[21:37] <knome> :)
[21:38] <chuckmcm> now if I can get audio to work again the conversion to 16.04 will be complete.
[21:38] <knome> what's not working in audio then
[21:39] <chuckmcm> system is a NUC5i7RYH, has a speaker plugged into the headphone jack. Works on 15.10 to play audio, doesn't work on 16.04.
[21:39] <knome> have you checked if the desired output is correct under 'pavucontrol' ?
[21:40] <knome> (fwiw, i've been thinking of getting a NUC, probably that model, but i think i'll wait for a bit longer for newer ones)
[21:42] <chuckmcm> Its a really compact and easy to carry around system. Decent graphics, 16GB Ram, no complaints other than slow Linux support from Intel
[21:43] <chuckmcm> ok, so the cubeutils found the internal audio analog stereo which is odd
[21:44] <knome> well, i don't need to carry it around, but i want to get rid of too much stuff in the office
[21:54] <chuckmcm> On my setup I've got it plugged into a unifying receiver so keyboard/mouse are wireless, the NUC sits on my workbench connected to the monitor and a 7 port USB 3 hub for development work
[21:54] <ScoDal> my thinkpad t43 ignores power settings. if i'm not touching the keyboard or mouse for X amount of time, the screen blanks out and I can't get it back on without a forced restart
[21:54] <chuckmcm> can pack the whole thing up to go in a tupperware box, so easy to get out into the field with it.
[21:55] <chuckmcm> ScoDal: something on this system doesn't realize the screen is actually off. So you can force it back on with a lightdm restart (or now with the xrandr command)
[21:55] <ScoDal> how would i perform that, chuckmcm, without being able to see the screen?
[21:55] <chuckmcm> it is like the display port PHY is brought the connection down. Powering the monitor off and on, or plugging the connection does not wake it up
[21:56] <knome> ScoDal, use the presentation mode
[21:56] <ScoDal> oh had not thought of that knome, i will try that
[21:56] <chuckmcm> in my case ScoDal I ssh'd into the machine and did that
[21:57] <ScoDal> ah chuckmcm, that makes sense i will enable more remote features as well
[21:57] <ScoDal> wow thank you those were really good suggestions (chuckmcmc knome)
[21:58] <ScoDal> i'm going to restart back into xubuntu and let this happen so ican test this theory
[22:03] <ScoDal> ok i'm back in xubuntu mode, 14.04, i wonder if i should go 16.04?
[23:28] <ScoDal> so that did not work, at least not the part where i use the function key to bring my thinkpad t43 back to life when it timed out to black screen
[23:28] <ScoDal> it looked like it was trying after a few attempts, but it was mostly just odd flickering and i was feeling unsure what was happening.. and that brings me back to windows to talk about it
[23:29] <ScoDal> is that what you meant knome  by presentation mode? using the functions key to trigger screens?
[23:29] <knome> no, the panel plugin for the power manager has a power manager button, though not on 14.04 yet
[23:30] <ScoDal> oh man how i would have loved to know that ahead of time lol i'm using 14.04 MININUM!
[23:30] <ScoDal> i want to upgrade!
[23:30] <ScoDal> although surely t43 is a dying laptop in all respects, but i still love mine
[23:31] <ScoDal> it's not imperative to fix my situation, just a project of mine
[23:31] <ScoDal> it's a safe and when it works really adequate place for me to play with linux/xubuntu in particular
[23:32] <ScoDal> considering everybody is trying to kill of xp as fast as they can lol which this thing runs fantastically
[23:33] <ScoDal> off*