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yofelif (${NETWORKMANAGER_VERSION} VERSION_LESS 1.2.0)08:08
yofelwtf?08:08
clivejoyofel: ping10:25
yofelhm?10:25
clivejojust uploaded plasma-framework using the respun tarball, but just thought we cant use the same version name10:26
clivejoLp will assume the source is the same and use the one we originally uploaded10:26
yofelit should actually reject your upload10:26
clivejoit doesnt10:27
yofelI don't see anything yet at least10:27
clivejobut I should rename the .orig tarball and the changelog to 5.22.0a10:27
yofelyes10:27
yofelwhy does kwayland have an epoch?!?10:28
clivejowas moved from plasma to frameworks?10:28
yofelnvm10:28
yofelyes10:28
clivejoI asked you could we drop it?10:28
yofelright, I remember now -.-10:29
clivejobut not without a rename10:29
clivejotryig to give me heart problems?!?10:29
yofelonly after myself :P10:30
yofelanyway, lunch10:30
yofelbbiab10:30
yofelre10:47
clivejoyofel: in the staging script it only bumps plasma build deps for plasma, is there any way to get it to bump FW build deps too?11:06
yofelnot sure, maybe just adding the fw packages to the plasma build-dep-version-list would work?11:06
clivejonot very elegant :/11:08
soee_good morning11:35
soee_mamarley: ping11:50
mamarleySwitching sonar to active!  PONGPONGPONGPONG!11:50
soee_mamarley: is it possible to remove kernel from system and install next one?11:51
mamarleyI don't understand?  What kernel are you trying to install?11:51
soee_mamarley: i have small VPS now with boot partition = 100 MB and it fails to upgrade kernel -21 -> -22 due to lack of space11:52
mamarleyand -21 is the only kernel you have installed?11:52
soee_yes11:53
mamarleysoee_: Your boot partition is *way* too small.  You can remove the -21 kernel, but when you do that, it will also remove the linux-generic and or linux-image-generic metapackages.  Make sure to install whichever of those gets removed back.11:54
mamarleyAnd find a new VPS provider.  Your VPS provider sucks.11:55
mamarleyYou might also want to check your /boot directory to see if there is trash there from previous kernel versions.  The initrd images tend to be pretty large.11:59
acheron88I have 4 kernels installed, and /boot/ is 170.3 MB12:26
acheron88soee: so I agree, you may have some cruft in your /boot/ if can't get 2 in 100 MB12:28
alleebtw. akonadi baloo indexing does not exists in xenial.   xenial baloo-utils is 4.14 and qt4 based, so no go with qt5 akonadi in xenial13:35
alleeI see CI has a (failing) package akonadi-search, but that's not available in xenial :-(13:38
yofel!info akonadi-search xenial14:33
ubottuPackage akonadi-search does not exist in xenial14:33
yofelhm, bot can't query sources it seems14:34
yofel!info libkf5akonadisearch-bin xenial14:34
ubottulibkf5akonadisearch-bin (source: akonadi-search): Akonadi search library - runtime binaries. In component universe, is optional. Version 4:15.12.3-0ubuntu1 (xenial), package size 93 kB, installed size 303 kB14:34
yofelallee: ^ it's a thing - but it's probably not installed as you noticed14:34
yofelmight warrant a bug report..14:35
BluesKajhiyas all14:40
* allee hides14:56
alleeyofel: damn it a lib.  sorry missed it.   bug report against kubuntu-meta?  Oder should akonadi-server recommend it?14:56
yofelallee: file it against kubuntu-meta. I agree that it's probably rather something for akonadi-something or maybe just kmail, but we can figure that out later14:57
alleeyofel: AFAIU  indexing works on emais contact and events.  Will see ...14:59
yofelthanks14:59
alleewhat happens are akonadi restart14:59
IrcsomeBot<ovidiuflorin> clivejo any change for the network manager patch?16:07
=== ghostcube_ is now known as ghostcube
soeewell i hm nvidia driver update16:21
clivejosoee: dont do it, its a trap16:30
soee:O16:31
mamarleysoee: Which version?16:32
BluesKajany word on a nvidia driver kernel module patch for 4.4.0-22 on Yakkety? I see the NM widget patched now , thankyou :-)16:36
soeemamarley: http://ppa.launchpad.net/graphics-drivers/ppa/ubuntu xenial/main amd64 nvidia-364 amd64 364.19-0ubuntu0~gpu16.04.3 [68,6 MB]16:36
soeehttp://ppa.launchpad.net/graphics-drivers/ppa/ubuntu xenial/main amd64 nvidia-opencl-icd-364 amd64 364.19-0ubuntu0~gpu16.04.3 [9063 kB] 16:36
mamarleyBluesKaj: It isn't the module that needs patching, it is the kernel.  The patch will be released with the next kernel.16:36
soeehttp://ppa.launchpad.net/graphics-drivers/ppa/ubuntu xenial/main amd64 libcuda1-364 amd64 364.19-0ubuntu0~gpu16.04.3 [8932 kB16:37
* clivejo is liking the 4.6 kernel16:37
clivejomainly because it works!16:37
soee~^~16:37
BluesKajmamarley:  ok thanks for the heads up16:38
mamarleysoee: That version changes something under the hood about how the initramfs hooks work.  It shouldn't cause any user-visible change.16:38
clivejoand I owe mamarley a drink for the driver !16:38
mamarleyclivejo: No problem :)16:38
BluesKajI would try the 4.6 , but I'm not in the mood for compiling with patches 16:39
alleeyofel: bug filed https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kubuntu-meta/+bug/158160416:39
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1581604 in kubuntu-meta (Ubuntu) "akonadi KF5: search email/contacts/ ... not working: Missing libkf5akonadisearch* pkgs" [Undecided,New]16:39
soeeis it in YY already ?16:40
clivejogrrrr forgot the epoch on kwayland-dev17:26
yofelovidiuflorin: upstream broke ABI, so I had to patch it again. Update again waiting in unapproved17:43
* yofel just enabled debugging packages for ~kubuntu-ppa/*17:52
clivejoeakkk19:02
soeesup19:16
_Groo_hi/2 all20:42
clivejohi _Groo_20:42
_Groo_in which ppa are you guys backporting 5.6.3? so i could test it20:42
_Groo_hi clivejo 20:42
IrcsomeBot<marcinsagol> Clivejo looks like 5.6.4 YY is done20:52
clivejodoes it?20:52
IrcsomeBot<marcinsagol> Groo in staging-plasma20:52
_Groo_nvm its in the usual place21:13
soee:)21:13
soeeclivejo: backport maybe now ? :D21:15
clivejoit hasnt even been tested!21:15
* clivejo shakes head21:15
mamarleyclivejo: dpkg: error processing archive /var/cache/apt/archives/plasma-desktop-data_4%3a5.6.4-0ubuntu1~ubuntu16.10~ppa1_all.deb (--unpack):21:27
mamarley trying to overwrite '/usr/share/locale/en_GB/LC_MESSAGES/kcm_activities.mo', which is also in package kde-l10n-engb 4:15.12.3-0ubuntu221:27
clivejoI dunno how to fix this stuff21:29
clivejoI dont even understand why those translations are in two separate tarballs21:29
mamarleyIf I force install the package, it seems to work fine though.21:30
soeeyup i had it in 5.6.3 also21:32
sick_rimmitHello21:42
sick_rimmitWould anyone like to play with my Ball ?21:42
yofelclivejo: previously all translations were in l10n (or most at least), now they're getting moved to their respective sources21:42
yofelwhich causes backwards breakage21:42
yofelclivejo: baloo has an example on how to handle this21:42
yofelbut you'll also need a patched l10n set21:42
yofelIIRC that has a file blacklist in the packaging for that purpose21:43
sick_rimmitOoops sorry wrong channel - Doh!21:43
* yofel throws the ball back to sick_rimmit :P21:43
sick_rimmityofel: thanks21:44
clivejogood job my pup didnt get hold of it21:45
clivejo47kB/s21:47
clivejoI dont think under any defination that qualifies for "broadband"21:49
clivejowhats a Hash Sum mismatch?21:53
clivejonever seen that with a PPA before21:53
soeemaybe package was dowdloading to slow, break it, resume download and it was broken a bi21:54
clivejomaybe21:55
clivejothis "new" router isnt great21:55
mamarleyclivejo: If I was anywhere close to you, I would gladly donate one of my spare OpenWRT routers.  Alas, I am not…21:58
soeefu steam, fu!22:00
clivejowhy dont I get any of those translation errors?22:00
soeemaybe because original land is in source package ?22:01
soee*lang22:01
soee*original = eng22:01
clivejomamarley is using en_GB22:02
mamarleyBecause there is no en_US.22:02
clivejoI thought that was default22:03
clivejoflavor instead of flavour etc22:03
_Groo_5.6.3 is working fine22:11
_Groo_just one package error22:11
_Groo_besides that,  smooth upgrade from 5.5.x22:12
clivejo_Groo_: what was the package error?22:15
_Groo_https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/ucdOJrNi/22:17
_Groo_https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/EE4DK16z/22:17
clivejolocales22:18
_Groo_besides that, its working like a charm22:18
clivejohave you used activites?22:18
_Groo_just the default one22:18
_Groo_but its showing up22:18
_Groo_just tested it, created one, switched to it, back... working...22:19
_Groo_deleted... worked22:19
_Groo_clivejo: anything in particular you wanted to test?22:19
_Groo_justthe stupid dolphin "search for" that stopped working like 2 version ago22:20
_Groo_since 5.4 ate least22:20
_Groo_but the baloosearch works22:20
clivejojust anything you noticed in general22:22
_Groo_nope, everything working fine, including nm22:22
soee_Groo_: YY or XX ?22:22
clivejo_Groo_: was that broken for you?22:22
_Groo_just the pa sound thats still useless... at least till 5.7, it doesnt show the current sound stream22:22
_Groo_soee: XX22:22
_Groo_clivejo: yes, the networkmanager-qt in proposed (xenial) is broken22:23
_Groo_clivejo: i backported my own from YY that has the new symbols22:23
_Groo_but 5.6 already has that22:23
clivejomamarley: ping22:26
valoriehi all22:27
clivejohi valorie22:27
clivejohow are you?22:27
valoriemy daddy died yesterday morning22:27
valorietrying to get back and catch up22:27
clivejooh, Im sooo sorry22:27
valoriestill feeling sad, sore, exhausted22:27
clivejo{{{{{{{{ Hugs }}}}}}}22:27
valoriety22:28
valorieit was time, so I'm happy for him22:28
valorienot so happy for me22:28
clivejono, theres never the right time for that22:28
valorieon my side, for sure22:29
valorieI'm happy to see *you* back clive22:29
clivejoIm happy too22:30
clivejothanks to mamarley22:30
valoriethank you mamarley!22:30
valorieare the fixes committed?22:30
clivejoI dont know, Im using a daily kernel and a nividia driver from mamarley's PPA22:31
clivejoyofel: https://git.launchpad.net/~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/+git/baloo/tree/debian/rules?h=kubuntu_yakkety_archive22:32
clivejolines 4 and 7 do the magic?22:32
yofelclivejo: together with https://git.launchpad.net/~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/+git/baloo/tree/debian/control?h=kubuntu_yakkety_archive lines 63,6422:33
yofelthose 422:33
clivejo*wooosh*22:34
valorieit would be good if all of clivejo's agony could at least save someone else from the same pain22:34
clivejovalorie: it was just a perfect storm22:35
clivejomy router decided to stop routing22:35
valorieI've gone through a few of those22:35
clivejothe kernel got upgraded22:36
valorieliving without IRC is painful, unless it is a vacation from it I choose22:36
clivejobut the nvidia driver didnt get compiled properly22:36
clivejothankfully I had telegram22:36
valorieyes, same here while I was at the nursing home22:36
clivejoand people like mamarley researched stuff and told me how to overcome it22:37
valoriebtw, how is our jenkins? http://www.openwall.com/lists/oss-security/2016/05/11/1522:37
valoriesgclark: ^^^22:37
clivejoyofel: how do I determine the last good version of kde-l10n?22:38
clivejoyofel: https://git.launchpad.net/~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/+git/plasma-desktop/tree/debian/control?h=kubuntu_yakkety_archive22:50
clivejoLines 240 and 24922:50
clivejohttps://git.launchpad.net/~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/+git/plasma-desktop/tree/debian/rules?h=kubuntu_yakkety_archive22:50
clivejoLines 4 and 1522:51
clivejois there any way to overwrite files in packaging?22:55
ahoneybunmm no new mail since weds22:56
ahoneybunkmail is off a bit lol22:56
clivejomaybe a postinst script to rm the locale files installed by kde-l10n?22:56
clivejosorry pre-install22:57
yofelclivejo: line 4 is wrong22:59
yofelthe version needs to be the *first non-conflicting kde-l10n version*23:00
yofellike this you'll still get errors23:00
clivejohow do I find that out?23:00
clivejoIve never seen this before23:00
yofelyou patch l10n, increase the version, and use that for said variable23:01
yofelah right, l10n has debian/overlapping-files23:01
yofeladd the conflicting file to that list, generate a new l10n set with a new changelog, and you'll have your fix23:02
clivejoby patch l10n I add the conflicting files to not0installed?23:02
yofelno, you do what I just said23:02
yofelthere is no not-installed in l10n. l10n is... complicated23:02
* clivejo nods23:02
clivejoblack magic23:03
clivejobut l10n is part of applications?23:04
yofelit was in the past when we were importing stuff into launchpad. Today it's just complex23:05
yofelit is23:05
yofeldoesn't change the fact that you need to patch it23:05
yofelwelcome to mis-matching release cycles23:06
yofelmaybe it's even fixed in l10n 16.04, but we don't use that yet23:06
clivejois the scripts for it still in bzr?23:07
yofelyes23:07
clivejoshould I try the lastest 16.04 l10n?23:08
yofelonly if people also upgrade to apps 16.0423:08
clivejoits not backwards compatible?23:09
yofelno, it's exactly matching translations23:09
clivejoI cant just package l10n on its own, see if that fixes the plasma issues23:09
yofeljust generate a patch for l10n 15.12 ...23:10
clivejoyofel: I have no idea how to do that!23:10
yofelI told you what you need to edit, and we have a wiki explaining l10n...23:11
clivejook, Im too tired right now to get my head around it23:12
clivejoIll go get some rest and look at it fresh23:12
yofelright me too23:13
yofelremind me tormorrow that I move the l10n stuff to git23:13
clivejook23:14
clivejonight night23:14
yofelnini23:15

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