[08:08] <yofel> if (${NETWORKMANAGER_VERSION} VERSION_LESS 1.2.0)
[08:08] <yofel> wtf?
[10:25] <clivejo> yofel: ping
[10:25] <yofel> hm?
[10:26] <clivejo> just uploaded plasma-framework using the respun tarball, but just thought we cant use the same version name
[10:26] <clivejo> Lp will assume the source is the same and use the one we originally uploaded
[10:26] <yofel> it should actually reject your upload
[10:27] <clivejo> it doesnt
[10:27] <yofel> I don't see anything yet at least
[10:27] <clivejo> but I should rename the .orig tarball and the changelog to 5.22.0a
[10:27] <yofel> yes
[10:28] <yofel> why does kwayland have an epoch?!?
[10:28] <clivejo> was moved from plasma to frameworks?
[10:28] <yofel> nvm
[10:28] <yofel> yes
[10:28] <clivejo> I asked you could we drop it?
[10:29] <yofel> right, I remember now -.-
[10:29] <clivejo> but not without a rename
[10:29] <clivejo> tryig to give me heart problems?!?
[10:30] <yofel> only after myself :P
[10:30] <yofel> anyway, lunch
[10:30] <yofel> bbiab
[10:47] <yofel> re
[11:06] <clivejo> yofel: in the staging script it only bumps plasma build deps for plasma, is there any way to get it to bump FW build deps too?
[11:06] <yofel> not sure, maybe just adding the fw packages to the plasma build-dep-version-list would work?
[11:08] <clivejo> not very elegant :/
[11:35] <soee_> good morning
[11:50] <soee_> mamarley: ping
[11:50] <mamarley> Switching sonar to active!  PONGPONGPONGPONG!
[11:51] <soee_> mamarley: is it possible to remove kernel from system and install next one?
[11:51] <mamarley> I don't understand?  What kernel are you trying to install?
[11:52] <soee_> mamarley: i have small VPS now with boot partition = 100 MB and it fails to upgrade kernel -21 -> -22 due to lack of space
[11:52] <mamarley> and -21 is the only kernel you have installed?
[11:53] <soee_> yes
[11:54] <mamarley> soee_: Your boot partition is *way* too small.  You can remove the -21 kernel, but when you do that, it will also remove the linux-generic and or linux-image-generic metapackages.  Make sure to install whichever of those gets removed back.
[11:55] <mamarley> And find a new VPS provider.  Your VPS provider sucks.
[11:59] <mamarley> You might also want to check your /boot directory to see if there is trash there from previous kernel versions.  The initrd images tend to be pretty large.
[12:26] <acheron88> I have 4 kernels installed, and /boot/ is 170.3 MB
[12:28] <acheron88> soee: so I agree, you may have some cruft in your /boot/ if can't get 2 in 100 MB
[13:35] <allee> btw. akonadi baloo indexing does not exists in xenial.   xenial baloo-utils is 4.14 and qt4 based, so no go with qt5 akonadi in xenial
[13:38] <allee> I see CI has a (failing) package akonadi-search, but that's not available in xenial :-(
[14:33] <yofel> !info akonadi-search xenial
[14:34] <yofel> hm, bot can't query sources it seems
[14:34] <yofel> !info libkf5akonadisearch-bin xenial
[14:34] <yofel> allee: ^ it's a thing - but it's probably not installed as you noticed
[14:35] <yofel> might warrant a bug report..
[14:40] <BluesKaj> hiyas all
[14:56]  * allee hides
[14:56] <allee> yofel: damn it a lib.  sorry missed it.   bug report against kubuntu-meta?  Oder should akonadi-server recommend it?
[14:57] <yofel> allee: file it against kubuntu-meta. I agree that it's probably rather something for akonadi-something or maybe just kmail, but we can figure that out later
[14:59] <allee> yofel: AFAIU  indexing works on emais contact and events.  Will see ...
[14:59] <yofel> thanks
[14:59] <allee> what happens are akonadi restart
 clivejo any change for the network manager patch?
[16:21] <soee> well i hm nvidia driver update
[16:30] <clivejo> soee: dont do it, its a trap
[16:31] <soee> :O
[16:32] <mamarley> soee: Which version?
[16:36] <BluesKaj> any word on a nvidia driver kernel module patch for 4.4.0-22 on Yakkety? I see the NM widget patched now , thankyou :-)
[16:36] <soee> mamarley: http://ppa.launchpad.net/graphics-drivers/ppa/ubuntu xenial/main amd64 nvidia-364 amd64 364.19-0ubuntu0~gpu16.04.3 [68,6 MB]
[16:36] <soee> http://ppa.launchpad.net/graphics-drivers/ppa/ubuntu xenial/main amd64 nvidia-opencl-icd-364 amd64 364.19-0ubuntu0~gpu16.04.3 [9063 kB] 
[16:36] <mamarley> BluesKaj: It isn't the module that needs patching, it is the kernel.  The patch will be released with the next kernel.
[16:37] <soee> http://ppa.launchpad.net/graphics-drivers/ppa/ubuntu xenial/main amd64 libcuda1-364 amd64 364.19-0ubuntu0~gpu16.04.3 [8932 kB
[16:37]  * clivejo is liking the 4.6 kernel
[16:37] <clivejo> mainly because it works!
[16:37] <soee> ~^~
[16:38] <BluesKaj> mamarley:  ok thanks for the heads up
[16:38] <mamarley> soee: That version changes something under the hood about how the initramfs hooks work.  It shouldn't cause any user-visible change.
[16:38] <clivejo> and I owe mamarley a drink for the driver !
[16:38] <mamarley> clivejo: No problem :)
[16:39] <BluesKaj> I would try the 4.6 , but I'm not in the mood for compiling with patches 
[16:39] <allee> yofel: bug filed https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kubuntu-meta/+bug/1581604
[16:40] <soee> is it in YY already ?
[17:26] <clivejo> grrrr forgot the epoch on kwayland-dev
[17:43] <yofel> ovidiuflorin: upstream broke ABI, so I had to patch it again. Update again waiting in unapproved
[17:52]  * yofel just enabled debugging packages for ~kubuntu-ppa/*
[19:02] <clivejo> eakkk
[19:16] <soee> sup
[20:42] <_Groo_> hi/2 all
[20:42] <clivejo> hi _Groo_
[20:42] <_Groo_> in which ppa are you guys backporting 5.6.3? so i could test it
[20:42] <_Groo_> hi clivejo 
 Clivejo looks like 5.6.4 YY is done
[20:52] <clivejo> does it?
 Groo in staging-plasma
[21:13] <_Groo_> nvm its in the usual place
[21:13] <soee> :)
[21:15] <soee> clivejo: backport maybe now ? :D
[21:15] <clivejo> it hasnt even been tested!
[21:15]  * clivejo shakes head
[21:27] <mamarley> clivejo: dpkg: error processing archive /var/cache/apt/archives/plasma-desktop-data_4%3a5.6.4-0ubuntu1~ubuntu16.10~ppa1_all.deb (--unpack):
[21:27] <mamarley>  trying to overwrite '/usr/share/locale/en_GB/LC_MESSAGES/kcm_activities.mo', which is also in package kde-l10n-engb 4:15.12.3-0ubuntu2
[21:29] <clivejo> I dunno how to fix this stuff
[21:29] <clivejo> I dont even understand why those translations are in two separate tarballs
[21:30] <mamarley> If I force install the package, it seems to work fine though.
[21:32] <soee> yup i had it in 5.6.3 also
[21:42] <sick_rimmit> Hello
[21:42] <sick_rimmit> Would anyone like to play with my Ball ?
[21:42] <yofel> clivejo: previously all translations were in l10n (or most at least), now they're getting moved to their respective sources
[21:42] <yofel> which causes backwards breakage
[21:42] <yofel> clivejo: baloo has an example on how to handle this
[21:42] <yofel> but you'll also need a patched l10n set
[21:43] <yofel> IIRC that has a file blacklist in the packaging for that purpose
[21:43] <sick_rimmit> Ooops sorry wrong channel - Doh!
[21:43]  * yofel throws the ball back to sick_rimmit :P
[21:44] <sick_rimmit> yofel: thanks
[21:45] <clivejo> good job my pup didnt get hold of it
[21:47] <clivejo> 47kB/s
[21:49] <clivejo> I dont think under any defination that qualifies for "broadband"
[21:53] <clivejo> whats a Hash Sum mismatch?
[21:53] <clivejo> never seen that with a PPA before
[21:54] <soee> maybe package was dowdloading to slow, break it, resume download and it was broken a bi
[21:55] <clivejo> maybe
[21:55] <clivejo> this "new" router isnt great
[21:58] <mamarley> clivejo: If I was anywhere close to you, I would gladly donate one of my spare OpenWRT routers.  Alas, I am not…
[22:00] <soee> fu steam, fu!
[22:00] <clivejo> why dont I get any of those translation errors?
[22:01] <soee> maybe because original land is in source package ?
[22:01] <soee> *lang
[22:01] <soee> *original = eng
[22:02] <clivejo> mamarley is using en_GB
[22:02] <mamarley> Because there is no en_US.
[22:03] <clivejo> I thought that was default
[22:03] <clivejo> flavor instead of flavour etc
[22:11] <_Groo_> 5.6.3 is working fine
[22:11] <_Groo_> just one package error
[22:12] <_Groo_> besides that,  smooth upgrade from 5.5.x
[22:15] <clivejo> _Groo_: what was the package error?
[22:17] <_Groo_> https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/ucdOJrNi/
[22:17] <_Groo_> https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/EE4DK16z/
[22:18] <clivejo> locales
[22:18] <_Groo_> besides that, its working like a charm
[22:18] <clivejo> have you used activites?
[22:18] <_Groo_> just the default one
[22:18] <_Groo_> but its showing up
[22:19] <_Groo_> just tested it, created one, switched to it, back... working...
[22:19] <_Groo_> deleted... worked
[22:19] <_Groo_> clivejo: anything in particular you wanted to test?
[22:20] <_Groo_> justthe stupid dolphin "search for" that stopped working like 2 version ago
[22:20] <_Groo_> since 5.4 ate least
[22:20] <_Groo_> but the baloosearch works
[22:22] <clivejo> just anything you noticed in general
[22:22] <_Groo_> nope, everything working fine, including nm
[22:22] <soee> _Groo_: YY or XX ?
[22:22] <clivejo> _Groo_: was that broken for you?
[22:22] <_Groo_> just the pa sound thats still useless... at least till 5.7, it doesnt show the current sound stream
[22:22] <_Groo_> soee: XX
[22:23] <_Groo_> clivejo: yes, the networkmanager-qt in proposed (xenial) is broken
[22:23] <_Groo_> clivejo: i backported my own from YY that has the new symbols
[22:23] <_Groo_> but 5.6 already has that
[22:26] <clivejo> mamarley: ping
[22:27] <valorie> hi all
[22:27] <clivejo> hi valorie
[22:27] <clivejo> how are you?
[22:27] <valorie> my daddy died yesterday morning
[22:27] <valorie> trying to get back and catch up
[22:27] <clivejo> oh, Im sooo sorry
[22:27] <valorie> still feeling sad, sore, exhausted
[22:27] <clivejo> {{{{{{{{ Hugs }}}}}}}
[22:28] <valorie> ty
[22:28] <valorie> it was time, so I'm happy for him
[22:28] <valorie> not so happy for me
[22:28] <clivejo> no, theres never the right time for that
[22:29] <valorie> on my side, for sure
[22:29] <valorie> I'm happy to see *you* back clive
[22:30] <clivejo> Im happy too
[22:30] <clivejo> thanks to mamarley
[22:30] <valorie> thank you mamarley!
[22:30] <valorie> are the fixes committed?
[22:31] <clivejo> I dont know, Im using a daily kernel and a nividia driver from mamarley's PPA
[22:32] <clivejo> yofel: https://git.launchpad.net/~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/+git/baloo/tree/debian/rules?h=kubuntu_yakkety_archive
[22:32] <clivejo> lines 4 and 7 do the magic?
[22:33] <yofel> clivejo: together with https://git.launchpad.net/~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/+git/baloo/tree/debian/control?h=kubuntu_yakkety_archive lines 63,64
[22:33] <yofel> those 4
[22:34] <clivejo> *wooosh*
[22:34] <valorie> it would be good if all of clivejo's agony could at least save someone else from the same pain
[22:35] <clivejo> valorie: it was just a perfect storm
[22:35] <clivejo> my router decided to stop routing
[22:35] <valorie> I've gone through a few of those
[22:36] <clivejo> the kernel got upgraded
[22:36] <valorie> living without IRC is painful, unless it is a vacation from it I choose
[22:36] <clivejo> but the nvidia driver didnt get compiled properly
[22:36] <clivejo> thankfully I had telegram
[22:36] <valorie> yes, same here while I was at the nursing home
[22:37] <clivejo> and people like mamarley researched stuff and told me how to overcome it
[22:37] <valorie> btw, how is our jenkins? http://www.openwall.com/lists/oss-security/2016/05/11/15
[22:37] <valorie> sgclark: ^^^
[22:38] <clivejo> yofel: how do I determine the last good version of kde-l10n?
[22:50] <clivejo> yofel: https://git.launchpad.net/~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/+git/plasma-desktop/tree/debian/control?h=kubuntu_yakkety_archive
[22:50] <clivejo> Lines 240 and 249
[22:50] <clivejo> https://git.launchpad.net/~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/+git/plasma-desktop/tree/debian/rules?h=kubuntu_yakkety_archive
[22:51] <clivejo> Lines 4 and 15
[22:55] <clivejo> is there any way to overwrite files in packaging?
[22:56] <ahoneybun> mm no new mail since weds
[22:56] <ahoneybun> kmail is off a bit lol
[22:56] <clivejo> maybe a postinst script to rm the locale files installed by kde-l10n?
[22:57] <clivejo> sorry pre-install
[22:59] <yofel> clivejo: line 4 is wrong
[23:00] <yofel> the version needs to be the *first non-conflicting kde-l10n version*
[23:00] <yofel> like this you'll still get errors
[23:00] <clivejo> how do I find that out?
[23:00] <clivejo> Ive never seen this before
[23:01] <yofel> you patch l10n, increase the version, and use that for said variable
[23:01] <yofel> ah right, l10n has debian/overlapping-files
[23:02] <yofel> add the conflicting file to that list, generate a new l10n set with a new changelog, and you'll have your fix
[23:02] <clivejo> by patch l10n I add the conflicting files to not0installed?
[23:02] <yofel> no, you do what I just said
[23:02] <yofel> there is no not-installed in l10n. l10n is... complicated
[23:02]  * clivejo nods
[23:03] <clivejo> black magic
[23:04] <clivejo> but l10n is part of applications?
[23:05] <yofel> it was in the past when we were importing stuff into launchpad. Today it's just complex
[23:05] <yofel> it is
[23:05] <yofel> doesn't change the fact that you need to patch it
[23:06] <yofel> welcome to mis-matching release cycles
[23:06] <yofel> maybe it's even fixed in l10n 16.04, but we don't use that yet
[23:07] <clivejo> is the scripts for it still in bzr?
[23:07] <yofel> yes
[23:08] <clivejo> should I try the lastest 16.04 l10n?
[23:08] <yofel> only if people also upgrade to apps 16.04
[23:09] <clivejo> its not backwards compatible?
[23:09] <yofel> no, it's exactly matching translations
[23:09] <clivejo> I cant just package l10n on its own, see if that fixes the plasma issues
[23:10] <yofel> just generate a patch for l10n 15.12 ...
[23:10] <clivejo> yofel: I have no idea how to do that!
[23:11] <yofel> I told you what you need to edit, and we have a wiki explaining l10n...
[23:12] <clivejo> ok, Im too tired right now to get my head around it
[23:12] <clivejo> Ill go get some rest and look at it fresh
[23:13] <yofel> right me too
[23:13] <yofel> remind me tormorrow that I move the l10n stuff to git
[23:14] <clivejo> ok
[23:14] <clivejo> night night
[23:15] <yofel> nini