=== ianorlin is now known as lynorian === penguin1_ is now known as penguin1263 [06:10] trying to install 16.04 alternate to a 4 gb sd card. getting an installation step failed error [06:11] 64 bit. step is select and install software [06:11] verified hash on the iso [06:11] using ext2 [06:18] * sunstar twidles thumbs [06:24] sunstar: quite idle here at this hour [06:24] and I do not know the answer to your question [06:25] have you tried installing to ext4? [06:25] hateball i think im going to install ubuntu server basic then sudo apt-get install lubuntu-desktop [06:27] hmmm might not have enough space for that [06:29] sunstar: you can use the mini.iso [06:29] !mini [06:29] The Minimal CD image is very small in size, and it downloads most packages from the Internet during installation, allowing you to select only those you want. The installer is text based (rather than graphical as used on the Desktop DVD). See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/MinimalCD [06:37] ill give it a shot [06:53] I'm trying to patch a file but output only says that only garbage was found in the patch input [06:54] yet it seems to work on other persons pc without problem [06:54] not sure what system he has but I was thinking if lubuntu had some kind of issue with this [06:56] okay no problem I had a wrong input after all... [06:59] :D [09:43] ....looking at the docs and it seems u need at least a 5gb hdd. so this is the wrong distro for a 4gb sd card [09:51] miniiso + minimal-lubuntu = 3,6 Gb [10:04] thats what im wirking on. it takrs a while [10:05] working* takes* [10:06] * sunstar sits twidling thumbs [10:53] well. dont know what whent wrong with the alternate iso but the mini iso seems to be working. [10:56] going to bed. looks like i should have a running system when i awake [10:57] night all! ^_^ === e is now known as Augustus [16:16] hi [16:17] I'm trying to automate installing lubuntu and ubiquity doesn't set the hostname from dhcp even tho casper.log shows it reading it correctly [16:41] hi [19:46] hello, i have installed Lubuntu on a packard bell EasyNote and the only screen resolution than i can use on the screen parameter panel is 640X480, how can i change this ? [20:27] Hi - why does PCManFM sort hidden folders before regular folders? (Lubuntu 16.04) [20:28] I can't find an option to change this. [20:44] jerry__, this happens by name when have shown hidden folders enabled because of where . comes in sorting by name [20:44] if you sort by name descending they switch to the end [20:45] jerry__, so same reason foo.bar would show up before foobar [20:58] lynorian - yes, now the regular folders are before the dot folders, but they are sorted z to a, in reverse order alphabetically. Not what I wanted. [21:01] jerry__ how do you want them to be sorted? [21:01] so you want them to ignore hidden status [21:02] jerry__, I don't know if there is a way to change that [21:04] I am wanting the dot folders after the regular folders. There must be a config option for this somewhere. I'll have to do some deeper digging. [21:17] was here the other week... [21:17] checking back in. so glad i'm back on lubuntu [21:17] :) [21:17] got it all working with my asus [21:17] welcome back pod_. we missed you :) [21:17] :D [21:17] really? lol [21:18] in fact yes. n-iCe had to cry himself to sleep last night it was so bad. ;) [21:18] oh boy... [21:18] :< [21:18] ok i'm being facetious. i'd be hard pressed to name 3 nicks of people visiting in the last week. [21:19] i have very little requirements when it comes to "desktop environments" [21:19] but one thing i'd like is a little larger area to click on to resize a window [21:19] iirc, back in the day, that was an easily configurable thing. when i used mwm, fvwm, etc on sparcs in the 90s [21:20] wxl: lol, it's that dead in here? [21:20] pod_: no too many people [21:20] oh [21:20] right [21:20] i read that wrong [21:20] haha [21:20] :) [21:20] i figure most are drive-bys [21:20] often, yes [21:21] i am a bit of a drive-by myself, but i like to at least check back [21:21] i should have just stuck with lubuntu instead of trying mint [21:21] well if you're like the rest of us and you stay permanently connected on irc, feel free to hang out [21:21] that was annoying [21:21] yah [21:21] i often stay connected to my tdichat (turbo diesel vw) [21:22] but with baby here now and new computer, i usually just shut things down at night [21:22] yeah well i'm not always in front of it, but i'm always connected. that's often the case for everyone else [21:22] yup [21:22] same thing on my tdi group [21:23] is that on freenode? [21:23] i used to be that way, but when i realized how much power my old shitt desktop was using a while ago... [21:23] i assume not :) [21:23] and my crappy laptop [21:23] i started shutting down at night [21:23] but pretty sure my new desktop (first one i ever bought for myself!) [21:23] yeah i use a remote shell [21:23] others use znc [21:24] shold be pretty efficient [21:24] yeah well it's not MY power being used :) [21:24] yeah one of the few things lubuntu does not do for old hardware is make it more power efficient [21:24] the other thing is it can't magically make the hardware capable of displaying more pixels [21:24] it wasn't a lubuntu thing [21:24] pod_, yes I know it is not [21:24] it was just the fact it was an old computer(s) [21:24] well you can improve the power efficiency through the kernel [21:24] yeah it does not say give the cpu more c states [21:25] or cpu flags [21:25] aka don't run firefox [21:25] firefox.. it amazes me [21:25] 250% cpu [21:25] as soon as you go to a stupid place like cnn.com, firefox blows up [21:25] blame the web [21:25] i do [21:26] i blame all of it [21:26] i hate flash and all that crap... :( [21:26] this is thinkpad specific but interesting reading if you want to reduce power http://www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/How_to_reduce_power_consumption [21:27] i don't think i need that [21:27] no one NEEDS it :) [21:27] pod_ you can even use powertop on the desktop [21:27] I think I install it in case I run into usb powermanagment problems quite useful for debugging as well [21:28] not sure what that is [21:28] but by getting a new desktop, pretty sure i cut some power losses [21:29] i just get frustrated by how good hardware gets... and i feel like that just makes for more program bloat to be acceptable [21:30] well that sort of goes without saying [21:30] people want software to do more and more things [21:30] of course [21:30] them and their darn GUIs XD [21:31] that isn't my issue. i just feel like there's too much redundancy and overhead to do things that just really aren't that important [21:31] doing more is good :) [21:31] that's true [21:31] but doing it efficiently is another matter [21:31] hey btw let's move this convo over to #lubuntu-offtopic. just in case someone actually has a support question and needs some advice [21:31] yeah sure [21:31] sorry [21:31] wxl: got a working yakkety daily? [21:31] ewps, wrong chan [21:32] i do have a question that is for this channel tho [21:32] :) [21:32] go for it! [21:32] and don't be sorry [21:32] can i make the window borders a bit larger so it's easier to grab and resize? [21:33] first of all, yes you can. second of all, i'm on the work computer (kubuntu) so to give you the answer i'd have to give you information from memory [21:33] and let me tell you, i've got seriously random access memory [21:33] all seriousness aside, in one of the openbox settings there's a way to change that stuff [21:34] i think i just found it on google [21:34] at one point i had mine basically non existent. they were like a pixel. it kind of sucked for resizing [21:34] yeah [21:34] but now i use a tiling window manager, so i don't resize much :) [21:34] i like tiling [21:35] like i was saying, back in the day i used mwm, fvwm, etc and even bought the whole set of Motif books [21:35] i'm guessing it should be a config file similar to that [21:35] back in the day, i used a tty [21:35] so i'm moving up in the world XD [21:35] yeah, me too :) [21:35] maybe not as old as you.. not sure [21:36] i'm 41 :) [21:36] 39, so we're in a similar boat [21:36] believe it or not, i went to brown and graduated with a comp sci degree [21:36] but now i'm unemployed, and basically a home-carpenter/builder/car-guy [21:36] :) [21:37] carpenting/building ftw, cs is overrated :) [21:37] added openbox to my todo list [21:37] fluxbox ix nice too [21:38] i should probably go to #offtopic [21:38] :s [21:38] watch "office space" 'nuff said :) [21:38] kk [21:38] heh [21:38] lol [21:38] drab: my life was office space [21:38] i worked on wall st back in 2000 [21:38] i actually worked for hotjobs.com back then [21:38] heh [21:38] oh the stories.... [21:38] got a swingline stapler to prove it? :P [21:39] i've got a hotjobs watch, a jacket, and some other items [21:39] :D [21:39] the high of my career was to be asked to download the internet on a dvd [21:39] after all [21:39] lol [21:39] the whole thing? [21:39] they were much bigger than CDs, it ought to fit (true story) [21:39] drab: i remember my dads computer had the bernoulli box [21:39] :D [21:40] lo, nice one [21:40] so much memory! [21:40] it was hyuuuuge [21:40] well, i just popped into offtopic [21:40] i don't think i have any more linux issues to sort out [21:41] gotta have respect [21:44] so glad for dosbox tho. can play all my old computer games i loved in the 80s [21:44] kings quest etc [22:04] hey! [22:05] Why I cant create new wifi network with WPA2 secutiry [22:05] ? [22:05] maybe I should install some packages [22:07] I can create only wep [23:19] hey friends! i'm having trouble with audio. any volume which originates from chrome is substantially quieter than the rest of the system. however i can't find any sort of application mixer. any ideas? [23:20] alsamixer, BUSY [23:20] run it in terminal [23:20] also chrome has its own thing [23:21] if you want something a little neater, try pavucontrol [23:21] although someitmes youtube videos have like drastically different volume lvels by application [23:22] yuuup [23:22] and sometimes even in the same browser [23:23] actually I had a problem many tech conference talks were way too quiet [23:27] great! pavucontrol set the record straight [23:28] does this keep settings between sessions?