[06:10] <sunstar> trying to install 16.04 alternate to a 4 gb sd card. getting an installation step failed error
[06:11] <sunstar> 64 bit.  step is select and install software
[06:11] <sunstar> verified hash on the iso
[06:11] <sunstar> using ext2
[06:18]  * sunstar twidles thumbs
[06:24] <hateball> sunstar: quite idle here at this hour
[06:24] <hateball> and I do not know the answer to your question
[06:25] <hateball> have you tried installing to ext4?
[06:25] <sunstar> hateball i think im going to install ubuntu server basic then sudo apt-get install lubuntu-desktop
[06:27] <sunstar> hmmm might not have enough space for that
[06:29] <hateball> sunstar: you can use the mini.iso
[06:29] <hateball> !mini
[06:37] <sunstar> ill give it a shot
[06:53] <Ingvix> I'm trying to patch a file but output only says that only garbage was found in the patch input
[06:54] <Ingvix> yet it seems to work on other persons pc without problem
[06:54] <Ingvix> not sure what system he has but I was thinking if lubuntu had some kind of issue with this
[06:56] <Ingvix> okay no problem I had a wrong input after all...
[06:59] <hateball> :D
[09:43] <sunstar> ....looking at the docs and it seems u need at least a 5gb hdd. so this is the wrong distro for a 4gb sd card
[09:51] <JohnDoe_71Rus> miniiso + minimal-lubuntu = 3,6 Gb
[10:04] <sunstar> thats what im wirking on. it takrs a while
[10:05] <sunstar> working* takes*
[10:06]  * sunstar sits twidling thumbs
[10:53] <sunstar> well. dont know what whent wrong with the alternate iso but the mini iso seems to be working.
[10:56] <sunstar> going to bed. looks like i should have a running system when i awake
[10:57] <sunstar> night all! ^_^
[16:16] <drab> hi
[16:17] <drab> I'm trying to automate installing lubuntu and ubiquity doesn't set the hostname from dhcp even tho casper.log shows it reading it correctly
[16:41] <n-iCe> hi
[19:46] <ddstmaix> hello, i have installed Lubuntu on a packard bell  EasyNote and the only screen resolution than i can use on the screen parameter panel is 640X480, how can i change this ?
[20:27] <jerry__> Hi - why does PCManFM sort hidden folders before regular folders? (Lubuntu 16.04)
[20:28] <jerry__> I can't find an option to change this.
[20:44] <lynorian> jerry__, this happens by name when have shown hidden folders enabled because of where . comes in sorting by name
[20:44] <lynorian> if you sort by name descending they switch to the end
[20:45] <lynorian> jerry__, so same reason foo.bar would show up before foobar
[20:58] <jerry__> lynorian - yes, now the regular folders are before the dot folders, but they are sorted z to a, in reverse order alphabetically. Not what I wanted.
[21:01] <lynorian> jerry__ how do you want them to be sorted?
[21:01] <lynorian> so you want them to ignore hidden status
[21:02] <lynorian> jerry__, I don't know if there is a way to change that
[21:04] <jerry__> I am wanting the dot folders after the regular folders. There must be a config option for this somewhere. I'll have to do some deeper digging.
[21:17] <pod_> was here the other week...
[21:17] <pod_> checking back in. so glad i'm back on lubuntu
[21:17] <pod_> :)
[21:17] <pod_> got it all working with my asus
[21:17] <wxl> welcome back pod_. we missed you :)
[21:17] <n-iCe> :D
[21:17] <pod_> really? lol
[21:18] <wxl> in fact yes. n-iCe had to cry himself to sleep last night it was so bad. ;)
[21:18] <pod_> oh boy...
[21:18] <n-iCe> :<
[21:18] <wxl> ok i'm being facetious. i'd be hard pressed to name 3 nicks of people visiting in the last week.
[21:19] <pod_> i have very little requirements when it comes to "desktop environments"
[21:19] <pod_> but one thing i'd like is a little larger area to click on to resize a window
[21:19] <pod_> iirc, back in the day, that was an easily configurable thing. when i used mwm, fvwm, etc on sparcs in the 90s
[21:20] <pod_> wxl: lol, it's that dead in here?
[21:20] <wxl> pod_: no too many people
[21:20] <pod_> oh
[21:20] <pod_> right
[21:20] <pod_> i read that wrong
[21:20] <pod_> haha
[21:20] <wxl> :)
[21:20] <pod_> i figure most are drive-bys
[21:20] <wxl> often, yes
[21:21] <pod_> i am a bit of a drive-by myself, but i like to at least check back
[21:21] <pod_> i should have just stuck with lubuntu instead of trying mint
[21:21] <wxl> well if you're like the rest of us and you stay permanently connected on irc, feel free to hang out
[21:21] <pod_> that was annoying
[21:21] <pod_> yah
[21:21] <pod_> i often stay connected to my tdichat (turbo diesel vw)
[21:22] <pod_> but with baby here now and new computer, i usually just shut things down at night
[21:22] <wxl> yeah well i'm not always in front of it, but i'm always connected. that's often the case for everyone else
[21:22] <pod_> yup
[21:22] <pod_> same thing on my tdi group
[21:23] <wxl> is that on freenode?
[21:23] <pod_> i used to be that way, but when i realized how much power my old shitt desktop was using a while ago...
[21:23] <wxl> i assume not :)
[21:23] <pod_> and my crappy laptop
[21:23] <pod_> i started shutting down at night
[21:23] <pod_> but pretty sure my new desktop (first one i ever bought for myself!)
[21:23] <wxl> yeah i use a remote shell
[21:23] <wxl> others use znc
[21:24] <pod_> shold be pretty efficient
[21:24] <wxl> yeah well it's not MY power being used :)
[21:24] <lynorian> yeah one of the few things lubuntu does not do for old hardware is make it more power efficient
[21:24] <lynorian> the other thing is it can't magically make the hardware capable of displaying more pixels
[21:24] <pod_> it wasn't a lubuntu thing
[21:24] <lynorian> pod_, yes I know it is not
[21:24] <pod_> it was just the fact it was an old computer(s)
[21:24] <wxl> well you can improve the power efficiency through the kernel
[21:24] <lynorian> yeah it does not say give the cpu more c states
[21:25] <lynorian> or cpu flags
[21:25] <pod_> aka don't run firefox
[21:25] <pod_> firefox.. it amazes me
[21:25] <pod_> 250% cpu
[21:25] <pod_> as soon as you go to a stupid place like cnn.com, firefox blows up
[21:25] <wxl> blame the web
[21:25] <pod_> i do
[21:26] <pod_> i blame all of it
[21:26] <pod_> i hate flash and all that crap... :(
[21:26] <wxl> this is thinkpad specific but interesting reading if you want to reduce power http://www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/How_to_reduce_power_consumption
[21:27] <pod_> i don't think i need that
[21:27] <wxl> no one NEEDS it :)
[21:27] <lynorian> pod_ you can even use powertop on the desktop
[21:27] <lynorian> I think I install it in case I run into usb powermanagment problems quite useful for debugging as well
[21:28] <pod_> not sure what that is
[21:28] <pod_> but by getting a new desktop, pretty sure i cut some power losses
[21:29] <pod_> i just get frustrated by how good hardware gets... and i feel like that just makes for more program bloat to be acceptable
[21:30] <wxl> well that sort of goes without saying
[21:30] <wxl> people want software to do more and more things
[21:30] <pod_> of course
[21:30] <wxl> them and their darn GUIs XD
[21:31] <pod_> that isn't my issue. i just feel like there's too much redundancy and overhead to do things that just really aren't that important
[21:31] <pod_> doing more is good :)
[21:31] <wxl> that's true
[21:31] <pod_> but doing it efficiently is another matter
[21:31] <wxl> hey btw let's move this convo over to #lubuntu-offtopic. just in case someone actually has a support question and needs some advice
[21:31] <pod_> yeah sure
[21:31] <pod_> sorry
[21:31] <teward> wxl: got a working yakkety daily?
[21:31] <teward> ewps, wrong chan
[21:32] <pod_> i do have a question that is for this channel tho
[21:32] <pod_> :)
[21:32] <wxl> go for it!
[21:32] <wxl> and don't be sorry
[21:32] <pod_> can i make the window borders a bit larger so it's easier to grab and resize?
[21:33] <wxl> first of all, yes you can. second of all, i'm on the work computer (kubuntu) so to give you the answer i'd have to give you information from memory
[21:33] <wxl> and let me tell you, i've got seriously random access memory
[21:33] <wxl> all seriousness aside, in one of the openbox settings there's a way to change that stuff
[21:34] <pod_> i think i just found it on google
[21:34] <wxl> at one point i had mine basically non existent. they were like a pixel. it kind of sucked for resizing
[21:34] <pod_> yeah
[21:34] <wxl> but now i use a tiling window manager, so i don't resize much :)
[21:34] <pod_> i like tiling
[21:35] <pod_> like i was saying, back in the day i used mwm, fvwm, etc and even bought the whole set of Motif books
[21:35] <pod_> i'm guessing it should be a config file similar to that
[21:35] <wxl> back in the day, i used a tty
[21:35] <wxl> so i'm moving up in the world XD
[21:35] <pod_> yeah, me too :)
[21:35] <pod_> maybe not as old as you.. not sure
[21:36] <pod_> i'm 41 :)
[21:36] <wxl> 39, so we're in a similar boat
[21:36] <pod_> believe it or not, i went to brown and graduated with a comp sci degree
[21:36] <pod_> but now i'm unemployed, and basically a home-carpenter/builder/car-guy
[21:36] <pod_> :)
[21:37] <drab> carpenting/building ftw, cs is overrated :)
[21:37] <pod_> added openbox to my todo list
[21:37] <wxl> fluxbox ix nice too
[21:38] <pod_> i should probably go to #offtopic
[21:38] <pod_> :s
[21:38] <drab> watch "office space" 'nuff said :)
[21:38] <wxl> kk
[21:38] <drab> heh
[21:38] <pod_> lol
[21:38] <pod_> drab: my life was office space
[21:38] <pod_> i worked on wall st back in 2000
[21:38] <pod_> i actually worked for hotjobs.com back then
[21:38] <pod_> heh
[21:38] <pod_> oh the stories....
[21:38] <drab> got a swingline stapler to prove it? :P
[21:39] <pod_> i've got a hotjobs watch, a jacket, and some other items
[21:39] <pod_> :D
[21:39] <drab> the high of my career was to be asked to download the internet on a dvd
[21:39] <drab> after all
[21:39] <pod_> lol
[21:39] <pod_> the whole thing?
[21:39] <drab> they were much bigger than CDs, it ought to fit (true story)
[21:39] <pod_> drab: i remember my dads computer had the bernoulli box
[21:39] <pod_> :D
[21:40] <drab> lo, nice one
[21:40] <pod_> so much memory!
[21:40] <pod_> it was hyuuuuge
[21:40] <pod_> well, i just popped into offtopic
[21:40] <pod_> i don't think i have any more linux issues to sort out
[21:41] <pod_> gotta have respect
[21:44] <pod_> so glad for dosbox tho. can play all my old computer games i loved in the 80s
[21:44] <pod_> kings quest etc
[22:04] <nastia> hey!
[22:05] <nastia> Why I cant create new wifi network with WPA2 secutiry
[22:05] <nastia> ?
[22:05] <nastia> maybe I should install some packages
[22:07] <nastia> I can create only wep
[23:19] <BUSY> hey friends!  i'm having trouble with audio.  any volume which originates from chrome is substantially quieter than the rest of the system.  however i can't find any sort of application mixer. any ideas?
[23:20] <wxl> alsamixer, BUSY
[23:20] <wxl> run it in terminal
[23:20] <wxl> also chrome has its own thing
[23:21] <wxl> if you want something a little neater, try pavucontrol
[23:21] <lynorian> although someitmes youtube videos have like drastically different volume lvels by application
[23:22] <wxl> yuuup
[23:22] <lynorian> and sometimes even in the same browser
[23:23] <lynorian> actually I had a problem many tech conference talks were way too quiet
[23:27] <BUSY> great! pavucontrol set the record straight
[23:28] <BUSY> does this keep settings between sessions?