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lotuspsychjegood morning to all04:14
Bashing-omlotuspsychje: Hey just in time to see my back side .04:26
lotuspsychjeBashing-om: sleep tight mate :p04:27
lotuspsychjemorning EriC^^04:27
EriC^^morning lotuspsychje04:27
Bashing-omK, take care of them all .. I will return .04:27
lotuspsychjewe will!04:27
lotuspsychjehttp://news.softpedia.com/news/canonical-pushes-new-features-into-the-snappy-integration-for-ubuntu-16-04-lts-504014.shtml06:17
lotuspsychjeiulian: morning06:26
ducassemorning! *groan*06:26
lotuspsychjehey ducasse :p06:26
lotuspsychjehave a warm ubuntu-coffee06:26
ducassebarely awake :)06:27
lotuspsychjehehe06:28
lotuspsychje!zfs06:29
ubot5For information concerning ZFS and Ubuntu, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ZFS06:29
lotuspsychjeducasse: perhaps you should find the kirkland guy to edit :p06:30
lotuspsychjeedited in 2016 so thats promising06:30
ducassethere are things that could be clearer still on the wiki :)06:30
lotuspsychjei agree06:31
ducassealthough i'm *really* happy zfs is now supported!06:31
lotuspsychjeducasse: https://bugs.launchpad.net/~kirkland06:31
lotuspsychjethats the guy that blogs on insights06:36
ducasseyes, i've read many of them. smart guy :)06:37
ducasselotuspsychje: the ars technica article on xenial was good, 'the best ubuntu release to date'!06:39
lotuspsychjeyeah, i really like it aswell06:39
lotuspsychjefinaly some good review06:39
lotuspsychjethat also looks under the hood06:39
lotuspsychjemany users only search for the GUI changes06:40
ducasseyes, there are big things in xenial - zfs, snap, lots of new software, lxd...06:40
lotuspsychjeyeah06:41
lotuspsychjeim sticking to xenial for few years06:42
lotuspsychjeuntil 18.04 to bug out again06:42
lotuspsychjedax: tgm4883 found the ppa format wrong on !ppapurge, ppa:owner/repo can you change?06:57
lotuspsychjehey TJ-07:05
TJ-morning07:05
lotuspsychjehttp://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2016-05-13/apple-invests-1-billion-in-uber-s-china-competitor-didi07:41
lotuspsychjeholy cow07:41
TJ-when you've got over US$200 billion offshore burning a hole in your pocket, buying a few trinkets is a good idea07:46
lotuspsychjelol07:46
lotuspsychjemorning de-facto07:48
lotuspsychjebbl breakfast time07:57
lotuspsychjere10:10
de-factoGood morning :)10:11
lotuspsychjehey de-facto good noon :p10:11
lotuspsychjede-facto: wich timezone your on?10:18
de-factogmt+210:18
de-factosame as you i guess10:18
lotuspsychje12h18 brussels timezone here10:18
de-factoyup10:18
lotuspsychje: )10:18
de-factoim in the south of germany, near frankfurt :)10:19
lotuspsychjecool10:19
lotuspsychjegerman is a cool country10:20
de-factoyeah i like it here, but actually most of europe is pretty nice imho, it just has to find its common vision again ;)10:23
de-factoid like to know how many of the ppl in #ubuntu originate from european countries, it seems there is quite a cyclic change in activity as well as competence which could indicate many come from EU10:25
lotuspsychjeusa pretty active aswell10:25
lotuspsychjei love the worldwide activeness of #ubuntu10:26
de-factoyeah its pretty neat :)10:27
lotuspsychjehttp://hackerboards.com/35-dollar-open-source-rk3288-hacker-sbc-hits-indiegogo/10:33
EriC^^as well as competence11:00
EriC^^lol, calling americans dumb? :p11:00
lotuspsychjeEriC^^: :p12:09
lotuspsychjehey pauljw12:13
pauljwhi lotuspsychje12:13
pauljweveryone12:13
* lotuspsychje is listening @ http://mixing.dj/2015/livesets/adam-beyer-drumcode-274-live-awakenings-amsterdam-30-10-2015/12:21
lotuspsychjewb13:31
lotuspsychjeafternoon DArqueBishop13:31
DArqueBishopMorning/afternoon/evening, lotuspsychje. :)13:32
lotuspsychjesnap find is growing by the day13:33
lotuspsychjeoh cool! telegram...im gonna try that13:34
lotuspsychjelotuspsychje@RooTBooK:~$ sudo snap install telegram-sergiusens13:37
lotuspsychjesweet!13:37
BluesKajhiyas all14:41
ArmadillosMorning!14:45
BluesKaj'Morning Armadillos14:49
lotuspsychjehey BluesKaj16:32
BluesKajhey lotuspsychje16:32
lotuspsychjeBluesKaj: got kodi to work?16:33
lotuspsychjehttp://news.softpedia.com/news/apt-1-3-now-in-development-promises-support-for-multiple-fingerprints-bugfixes-504034.shtml16:39
lotuspsychjeevening baizon16:41
baizonhi lotuspsychje17:00
BluesKajlotuspsychje:  yes but it crashes after about 30 mins and freezes the desktop on 16.10...haven't used it on 16.04 lately17:15
lotuspsychjekk17:15
BluesKajwas called to the phone17:15
lotuspsychjeno sweat :p17:16
lotuspsychjesoupertime guys17:23
lotuspsychjehave a nice one17:23
lotuspsychjelots of users with network issues18:03
OerHeksnoticed yes.18:03
lotuspsychje!info network-manager trusty18:04
ubot5network-manager (source: network-manager): network management framework (daemon and userspace tools). In component main, is optional. Version 0.9.8.8-0ubuntu7.3 (trusty), package size 481 kB, installed size 1988 kB (Only available for linux-any)18:04
lotuspsychjedidnt notice myself on xenial18:05
lotuspsychjewb pauljw18:06
pauljwty :)18:06
OerHeks:-)18:06
OerHekssome users want a fresh chromium-browser too ..18:07
pauljwhi OerHeks18:07
lotuspsychjeOerHeks: howso fresh?18:07
OerHeksThe stable channel has been updated to 50.0.2661.102 for Windows, Mac, and Linux.18:08
lotuspsychjeah18:09
pauljwit would be refreshing it folks would spend some time understanding the philosophy behind stable repos rather than this constant frenzy to have the newest release of everything.18:11
lotuspsychjeyeah18:12
lotuspsychje!latest18:12
ubot5Packages in Ubuntu may not be the latest. Ubuntu aims for stability, so "latest" may not be a good idea. Post-release updates are only considered if they are fixes for security vulnerabilities, high impact bug fixes, or unintrusive bug fixes with substantial benefit. See also !backports, !sru, and !ppa.18:12
pauljw;)18:12
OerHekssure, but not for ssh and a browser18:12
OerHeksbut, that is my opinion18:12
OerHeksi know what you want to say ;-)18:13
pauljwmy firefox is constantly updated18:13
pauljwthe openssh update of a few days ago might be the culprit in my known_host file issue.  so newest isn't always best.18:14
lotuspsychjeInstellen van network-manager-gnome (1.2.0-0ubuntu0.16.04.1) ...18:14
lotuspsychjeseems like nm also updated on xenial here18:14
lotuspsychjequick reboot to check18:15
lotuspsychjeworking18:17
OerHekson a laptop?18:18
OerHeksi see a relation to laptops and wifi issues18:18
lotuspsychjeyep netbook18:21
lotuspsychjeOerHeks: perhaps on specific kernels?18:22
lotuspsychjealot of kernel exploits recently on usn also18:23
lotuspsychje!info network-manager18:45
ubot5network-manager (source: network-manager): network management framework (daemon and userspace tools). In component main, is optional. Version 1.1.93-0ubuntu4 (xenial), package size 2064 kB, installed size 10744 kB (Only available for linux-any)18:45
lotuspsychjetv night cheers to all18:54
dbz2khello19:33
Bashing-omWE being pounded from the 14.04 updates breaking network-manager ?21:05
OerHekssomething like that yeah21:09
daftykinswhat's happened o021:09
OerHekshmmm21:12
OerHekssystemctl enable NetworkManager.service21:12
OerHekshttps://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/network-manager/+bug/143498621:13
ubot5Ubuntu bug 1434986 in network-manager (Ubuntu) "Not working network connection after boot" [Critical,Triaged]21:13
Bashing-omdaftykins: Update in 14.04 breaking metwork-manager ... loosing network connectivity . Seems so far the easier resolution is RE-installing network-manager . A trick with no connectivity . One possibility is from "recovery mode" .21:13
daftykinsyee-ouch!21:14
Bashing-omUh Huh .. started seeing this last night here on the channel .21:16
daftykinsexciting new things! hmm looks like i might even have a candidate just now in -uk21:18
Bashing-omdaftykins: http://askubuntu.com/questions/771627/14-04-network-manager-stopped-working/771841#771841 ; https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/network-manager/+bug/153963421:19
ubot5Ubuntu bug 1539634 in network-manager (Ubuntu Trusty) "network-manager crashes when using libnl-3-200-3.21.1-1ubuntu1" [High,Fix released]21:19
daftykinsty sir21:27
Bashing-om currently " This bug was fixed in the package network-manager - 0.9.8.8-0ubuntu7.3 " and that package is now in the repo : " sysop@1404mini:~$ apt list21:28
Bashing-om                    network-manager >> network-manager/trusty-updates 0.9.8.8-0ubuntu7.3 amd64 " .21:28
Bashing-omdaftykins: confirmation that : http://askubuntu.com/questions/771627/14-04-network-manager-stopped-working/771841#771841 is indeed effective .21:45
daftykinsneat :D22:01
OerHekshttps://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libnl3/+bug/151173522:39
ubot5Ubuntu bug 1511735 in libnl3 (Ubuntu Trusty) "libnl: fail to bind() netlink sockets" [Medium,In progress]22:39
OerHeksso, are all those affected, on proposed??22:39
OerHeksjust asking, i cannot get that clear22:40
Bashing-omOerHeks: I think that 'proposed" is open to debate . sevral bugs being opened : https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/network-manager/+bug/1539634 .22:42
ubot5Ubuntu bug 1539634 in network-manager (Ubuntu Trusty) "network-manager crashes when using libnl-3-200-3.21.1-1ubuntu1" [High,Fix released]22:42
Bashing-omIRT ^^ " Launchpad Janitor (janitor) wrote 41 minutes ago: : .. >> status:New → Confirmed .22:44
daxone wonders how that made it past QA23:13
Bashing-omdax: Did haste make waste ? in the original fix, now more problems from the fix ? Maybe now also effecting WIFI connections (??) .23:15

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