[04:14] <lotuspsychje> good morning to all
[04:26] <Bashing-om> lotuspsychje: Hey just in time to see my back side .
[04:27] <lotuspsychje> Bashing-om: sleep tight mate :p
[04:27] <lotuspsychje> morning EriC^^
[04:27] <EriC^^> morning lotuspsychje
[04:27] <Bashing-om> K, take care of them all .. I will return .
[04:27] <lotuspsychje> we will!
[06:17] <lotuspsychje> http://news.softpedia.com/news/canonical-pushes-new-features-into-the-snappy-integration-for-ubuntu-16-04-lts-504014.shtml
[06:26] <lotuspsychje> iulian: morning
[06:26] <ducasse> morning! *groan*
[06:26] <lotuspsychje> hey ducasse :p
[06:26] <lotuspsychje> have a warm ubuntu-coffee
[06:27] <ducasse> barely awake :)
[06:28] <lotuspsychje> hehe
[06:29] <lotuspsychje> !zfs
[06:29] <ubot5> For information concerning ZFS and Ubuntu, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ZFS
[06:30] <lotuspsychje> ducasse: perhaps you should find the kirkland guy to edit :p
[06:30] <lotuspsychje> edited in 2016 so thats promising
[06:30] <ducasse> there are things that could be clearer still on the wiki :)
[06:31] <lotuspsychje> i agree
[06:31] <ducasse> although i'm *really* happy zfs is now supported!
[06:31] <lotuspsychje> ducasse: https://bugs.launchpad.net/~kirkland
[06:36] <lotuspsychje> thats the guy that blogs on insights
[06:37] <ducasse> yes, i've read many of them. smart guy :)
[06:39] <ducasse> lotuspsychje: the ars technica article on xenial was good, 'the best ubuntu release to date'!
[06:39] <lotuspsychje> yeah, i really like it aswell
[06:39] <lotuspsychje> finaly some good review
[06:39] <lotuspsychje> that also looks under the hood
[06:40] <lotuspsychje> many users only search for the GUI changes
[06:40] <ducasse> yes, there are big things in xenial - zfs, snap, lots of new software, lxd...
[06:41] <lotuspsychje> yeah
[06:42] <lotuspsychje> im sticking to xenial for few years
[06:42] <lotuspsychje> until 18.04 to bug out again
[06:57] <lotuspsychje> dax: tgm4883 found the ppa format wrong on !ppapurge, ppa:owner/repo can you change?
[07:05] <lotuspsychje> hey TJ-
[07:05] <TJ-> morning
[07:41] <lotuspsychje> http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2016-05-13/apple-invests-1-billion-in-uber-s-china-competitor-didi
[07:41] <lotuspsychje> holy cow
[07:46] <TJ-> when you've got over US$200 billion offshore burning a hole in your pocket, buying a few trinkets is a good idea
[07:46] <lotuspsychje> lol
[07:48] <lotuspsychje> morning de-facto
[07:57] <lotuspsychje> bbl breakfast time
[10:10] <lotuspsychje> re
[10:11] <de-facto> Good morning :)
[10:11] <lotuspsychje> hey de-facto good noon :p
[10:18] <lotuspsychje> de-facto: wich timezone your on?
[10:18] <de-facto> gmt+2
[10:18] <de-facto> same as you i guess
[10:18] <lotuspsychje> 12h18 brussels timezone here
[10:18] <de-facto> yup
[10:18] <lotuspsychje> : )
[10:19] <de-facto> im in the south of germany, near frankfurt :)
[10:19] <lotuspsychje> cool
[10:20] <lotuspsychje> german is a cool country
[10:23] <de-facto> yeah i like it here, but actually most of europe is pretty nice imho, it just has to find its common vision again ;)
[10:25] <de-facto> id like to know how many of the ppl in #ubuntu originate from european countries, it seems there is quite a cyclic change in activity as well as competence which could indicate many come from EU
[10:25] <lotuspsychje> usa pretty active aswell
[10:26] <lotuspsychje> i love the worldwide activeness of #ubuntu
[10:27] <de-facto> yeah its pretty neat :)
[10:33] <lotuspsychje> http://hackerboards.com/35-dollar-open-source-rk3288-hacker-sbc-hits-indiegogo/
[11:00] <EriC^^> as well as competence
[11:00] <EriC^^> lol, calling americans dumb? :p
[12:09] <lotuspsychje> EriC^^: :p
[12:13] <lotuspsychje> hey pauljw
[12:13] <pauljw> hi lotuspsychje
[12:13] <pauljw> everyone
[12:21]  * lotuspsychje is listening @ http://mixing.dj/2015/livesets/adam-beyer-drumcode-274-live-awakenings-amsterdam-30-10-2015/
[13:31] <lotuspsychje> wb
[13:31] <lotuspsychje> afternoon DArqueBishop
[13:32] <DArqueBishop> Morning/afternoon/evening, lotuspsychje. :)
[13:33] <lotuspsychje> snap find is growing by the day
[13:34] <lotuspsychje> oh cool! telegram...im gonna try that
[13:37] <lotuspsychje> lotuspsychje@RooTBooK:~$ sudo snap install telegram-sergiusens
[13:37] <lotuspsychje> sweet!
[14:41] <BluesKaj> hiyas all
[14:45] <Armadillos> Morning!
[14:49] <BluesKaj> 'Morning Armadillos
[16:32] <lotuspsychje> hey BluesKaj
[16:32] <BluesKaj> hey lotuspsychje
[16:33] <lotuspsychje> BluesKaj: got kodi to work?
[16:39] <lotuspsychje> http://news.softpedia.com/news/apt-1-3-now-in-development-promises-support-for-multiple-fingerprints-bugfixes-504034.shtml
[16:41] <lotuspsychje> evening baizon
[17:00] <baizon> hi lotuspsychje
[17:15] <BluesKaj> lotuspsychje:  yes but it crashes after about 30 mins and freezes the desktop on 16.10...haven't used it on 16.04 lately
[17:15] <lotuspsychje> kk
[17:15] <BluesKaj> was called to the phone
[17:16] <lotuspsychje> no sweat :p
[17:23] <lotuspsychje> soupertime guys
[17:23] <lotuspsychje> have a nice one
[18:03] <lotuspsychje> lots of users with network issues
[18:03] <OerHeks> noticed yes.
[18:04] <lotuspsychje> !info network-manager trusty
[18:04] <ubot5> network-manager (source: network-manager): network management framework (daemon and userspace tools). In component main, is optional. Version 0.9.8.8-0ubuntu7.3 (trusty), package size 481 kB, installed size 1988 kB (Only available for linux-any)
[18:05] <lotuspsychje> didnt notice myself on xenial
[18:06] <lotuspsychje> wb pauljw
[18:06] <pauljw> ty :)
[18:06] <OerHeks> :-)
[18:07] <OerHeks> some users want a fresh chromium-browser too ..
[18:07] <pauljw> hi OerHeks
[18:07] <lotuspsychje> OerHeks: howso fresh?
[18:08] <OerHeks> The stable channel has been updated to 50.0.2661.102 for Windows, Mac, and Linux.
[18:09] <lotuspsychje> ah
[18:11] <pauljw> it would be refreshing it folks would spend some time understanding the philosophy behind stable repos rather than this constant frenzy to have the newest release of everything.
[18:12] <lotuspsychje> yeah
[18:12] <lotuspsychje> !latest
[18:12] <ubot5> Packages in Ubuntu may not be the latest. Ubuntu aims for stability, so "latest" may not be a good idea. Post-release updates are only considered if they are fixes for security vulnerabilities, high impact bug fixes, or unintrusive bug fixes with substantial benefit. See also !backports, !sru, and !ppa.
[18:12] <pauljw> ;)
[18:12] <OerHeks> sure, but not for ssh and a browser
[18:12] <OerHeks> but, that is my opinion
[18:13] <OerHeks> i know what you want to say ;-)
[18:13] <pauljw> my firefox is constantly updated
[18:14] <pauljw> the openssh update of a few days ago might be the culprit in my known_host file issue.  so newest isn't always best.
[18:14] <lotuspsychje> Instellen van network-manager-gnome (1.2.0-0ubuntu0.16.04.1) ...
[18:14] <lotuspsychje> seems like nm also updated on xenial here
[18:15] <lotuspsychje> quick reboot to check
[18:17] <lotuspsychje> working
[18:18] <OerHeks> on a laptop?
[18:18] <OerHeks> i see a relation to laptops and wifi issues
[18:21] <lotuspsychje> yep netbook
[18:22] <lotuspsychje> OerHeks: perhaps on specific kernels?
[18:23] <lotuspsychje> alot of kernel exploits recently on usn also
[18:45] <lotuspsychje> !info network-manager
[18:45] <ubot5> network-manager (source: network-manager): network management framework (daemon and userspace tools). In component main, is optional. Version 1.1.93-0ubuntu4 (xenial), package size 2064 kB, installed size 10744 kB (Only available for linux-any)
[18:54] <lotuspsychje> tv night cheers to all
[19:33] <dbz2k> hello
[21:05] <Bashing-om> WE being pounded from the 14.04 updates breaking network-manager ?
[21:09] <OerHeks> something like that yeah
[21:09] <daftykins> what's happened o0
[21:12] <OerHeks> hmmm
[21:12] <OerHeks> systemctl enable NetworkManager.service
[21:13] <OerHeks> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/network-manager/+bug/1434986
[21:13] <ubot5> Ubuntu bug 1434986 in network-manager (Ubuntu) "Not working network connection after boot" [Critical,Triaged]
[21:13] <Bashing-om> daftykins: Update in 14.04 breaking metwork-manager ... loosing network connectivity . Seems so far the easier resolution is RE-installing network-manager . A trick with no connectivity . One possibility is from "recovery mode" .
[21:14] <daftykins> yee-ouch!
[21:16] <Bashing-om> Uh Huh .. started seeing this last night here on the channel .
[21:18] <daftykins> exciting new things! hmm looks like i might even have a candidate just now in -uk
[21:19] <Bashing-om> daftykins: http://askubuntu.com/questions/771627/14-04-network-manager-stopped-working/771841#771841 ; https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/network-manager/+bug/1539634
[21:19] <ubot5> Ubuntu bug 1539634 in network-manager (Ubuntu Trusty) "network-manager crashes when using libnl-3-200-3.21.1-1ubuntu1" [High,Fix released]
[21:27] <daftykins> ty sir
[21:28] <Bashing-om>  currently " This bug was fixed in the package network-manager - 0.9.8.8-0ubuntu7.3 " and that package is now in the repo : " sysop@1404mini:~$ apt list
[21:28] <Bashing-om>                     network-manager >> network-manager/trusty-updates 0.9.8.8-0ubuntu7.3 amd64 " .
[21:45] <Bashing-om> daftykins: confirmation that : http://askubuntu.com/questions/771627/14-04-network-manager-stopped-working/771841#771841 is indeed effective .
[22:01] <daftykins> neat :D
[22:39] <OerHeks> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libnl3/+bug/1511735
[22:39] <ubot5> Ubuntu bug 1511735 in libnl3 (Ubuntu Trusty) "libnl: fail to bind() netlink sockets" [Medium,In progress]
[22:39] <OerHeks> so, are all those affected, on proposed??
[22:40] <OerHeks> just asking, i cannot get that clear
[22:42] <Bashing-om> OerHeks: I think that 'proposed" is open to debate . sevral bugs being opened : https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/network-manager/+bug/1539634 .
[22:42] <ubot5> Ubuntu bug 1539634 in network-manager (Ubuntu Trusty) "network-manager crashes when using libnl-3-200-3.21.1-1ubuntu1" [High,Fix released]
[22:44] <Bashing-om> IRT ^^ " Launchpad Janitor (janitor) wrote 41 minutes ago: : .. >> status:New → Confirmed .
[23:13] <dax> one wonders how that made it past QA
[23:15] <Bashing-om> dax: Did haste make waste ? in the original fix, now more problems from the fix ? Maybe now also effecting WIFI connections (??) .