[07:03] <jfh> @fbader: hi & welcome
[07:05] <fbader> @jfh Thanks, just about to get some sleep since it's 3AM.
[07:06] <jfh> @fabder: yeah - I already wondered about your late mail ;-) - have a good remaining night
[11:59] <cpaelzer> ah you are already active - hi fbader
[12:01] <fbader> @cpaelzer Hello, yes I'm trying to learn about IRC.  Never used it before.
[12:03] <cpaelzer> fbader: it is not so much different to other messengers
[12:03] <cpaelzer> fbader: just less silly pictures and more content
[12:03] <cpaelzer> fbader: so the "employed messenger" among the kiddies :-P
[12:09] <fbader> Is there are documented process for adding DASD to a guest so that it is permanent after IPL?  Is adding new DASD to /udev/rules.d the recommended way?
[12:09] <cpaelzer> chzdev will take care of creating udev rules
[12:10] <cpaelzer> lszdev&chzdev are provided and supported by IBM
[12:10] <cpaelzer> part of s390-utils s390-tools or whatever it is called today
[12:10] <cpaelzer> take a look at their manpages that should cover most that you need
[12:11] <cpaelzer> including enqiry of devices, selecting active/inactive, ...
[12:11] <cpaelzer> fbader: ^^
[12:11] <fbader> I didn't see them in the doc on the Ubuntu site.   Is there a "Drivers & Commands" document for Ubunutu like there is for SLES & RHEL?
[12:11] <cpaelzer> fbader: AFAIK that doc is in progress under lead by Dorothea in BB
[12:12] <cpaelzer> fbader: but I didn't see a draft of it nor a final version yet
[12:12] <cpaelzer> but I must admit I haven't checked
[12:13] <cpaelzer> fbader: the cool thing is this
[12:13] <cpaelzer> fbader: since we picked up the new stuff from IBM by that it actually is documented
[12:13] <cpaelzer> fbader: just not in a ubunut specific manner
[12:13] <cpaelzer> fbader: but there is the generic "upstream" devcie drivers book
[12:13] <cpaelzer> fbader: http://public.dhe.ibm.com/software/dw/linux390/docu/l4n4dd29.pdf
[12:13] <cpaelzer> fbader: and there is a whole chapter about this new one-place-for-all thing
[12:13] <cpaelzer> fbader: page 602 ff
[12:14] <fbader> Thanks!  I'll check that out.
[12:15] <cpaelzer> fbader: page 701 and around hold all the ls* tools
[13:08] <xnox> $ man chzdev ? =)
[13:42] <jfh> @fbader: there is indeed a draft of the device drivers book for kernel 4.4 - you should contact Dorothea Matthaeus from the IBM ID team in BB
[13:42] <jfh> @cpaelzer: oh - didn't saw all your lines ... sorry
[13:43] <cpaelzer> jfh: I had maaany lines, how could you miss them :-P
[13:43] <jfh> :-D
[13:43] <cpaelzer> but that is a great example why Ubuntu is great for so many people
[13:44] <cpaelzer> not outdated old tools, not super-special-own-tools if not needed
[13:44] <cpaelzer> just most recent manaufacturer provided SW in most cases
[13:44] <cpaelzer> I like that
[13:44] <jfh> well, I'm using pidgin - and it you scroll up and forgot to scroll down to the end again - you may miss the latest lines ... (until you really scroll down again ...)
[13:45] <jfh> right ...
[13:51] <cpaelzer> xnox: is there now a nicer way to install from FTP with a setup like our forced VLAN config?
[13:52] <cpaelzer> xnox: I still use the old google keep I got from you, did that got better or is it considered a non supported setup with a working workaround?
[14:55] <xnox> cpaelzer, it should be perfect very soon.
[14:55] <xnox> cpaelzer, with http://ports.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-ports/dists/yakkety-proposed/main/installer-s390x/20101020ubuntu455/images/ it should be just netcfg/vlan_id=XYZ and magical.
[14:55] <xnox> i fixed the last bug, i think, and will retest now.
[14:55] <xnox> and then SRU fixups into xenial.
[14:57] <cpaelzer> xnox: great
[14:57] <cpaelzer> xnox: that means we will at some point have an updated installer for Xenial on laconia then
[14:57] <cpaelzer> nic
[14:58] <xnox> yeap