| diddledan | I want a Lenovo thinkpad so I can rub my nipple in public | 01:09 |
|---|---|---|
| diddledan | seriously, what's with those things anyway? | 01:09 |
| m0nkey_ | I have a HP nipple | 01:12 |
| m0nkey_ | some HP EliteBook 820 i think | 01:12 |
| diddledan | do you fondle it in public places? | 01:12 |
| m0nkey_ | all the time at the officde | 01:13 |
| diddledan | \o/ | 01:13 |
| m0nkey_ | i opened an interesting FreeNAS bug.. https://bugs.freenas.org/issues/15274#change-76677 | 01:15 |
| gebbione | if doing . /etc/enviornment the env variables are not reloading when i run env | 01:18 |
| gebbione | any reasons? | 01:18 |
| diddledan | ooh, one of my raspis running win10 just reboobed for an update | 02:01 |
| daftykins | perhaps it'll improve mammary management | 02:06 |
| daftykins | speaking of, the login on here is still claiming i need to reboot | 02:08 |
| diddledan | http://www.wsj.com/articles/if-your-teacher-sounds-like-a-robot-you-might-be-on-to-something-1462546621 | 02:14 |
| MooDoo | morning all | 04:56 |
| zmoylan-pi | o/ | 05:25 |
| * zmoylan-pi hands around the crunchies | 05:26 | |
| MooDoo | :) yum | 05:49 |
| knightwise | morning | 06:25 |
| MooDoo | morning chap :) | 06:27 |
| knightwise | hey MooDoo , how are you doing today | 06:28 |
| MooDoo | knightwise: now the internet is backup at work, I can relax a little | 06:29 |
| knightwise | Enjoying my friday her e:) | 07:19 |
| MooDoo | knightwise: where are you? at work or on hols? | 07:26 |
| knightwise | at work :) | 07:32 |
| knightwise | i'm a freelancer .. hols are rare | 07:33 |
| popey | morning | 07:48 |
| knightwise | morning popey | 07:51 |
| === Switches is now known as Switches_ | ||
| === Switches_ is now known as Switches | ||
| Switches | Morning all | 07:52 |
| knightwise | hey Switches | 07:53 |
| Switches | Heya knightwise | 07:55 |
| davmor2 | Morning all from the caravan :) | 08:05 |
| Switches | Heya davmor2 | 08:06 |
| knightwise | davmor2: you lucky B¨sterd | 08:06 |
| davmor2 | knightwise: it is a caravan in England I see grey mostly :) today is a bit brighter :) | 08:07 |
| * popey heads to the airport | 08:07 | |
| popey | ttfn | 08:07 |
| davmor2 | But I still see lots of grey | 08:07 |
| davmor2 | popey: again | 08:07 |
| zmoylan-pi | hope you brought the travel scrabble and the scrabble | 08:07 |
| zmoylan-pi | and don't forget to do riverdance in the caravan... :-) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QKovBepY7v0 | 08:09 |
| Switches | Cya popey | 08:09 |
| davmor2 | zmoylan-pi: I have 20Mb down and 10Mb up why would I have scrabble | 08:09 |
| zmoylan-pi | it's obviously not raining enough if you still have that much data :-) | 08:10 |
| Switches | rofl | 08:10 |
| knightwise | * Giggles * | 08:13 |
| knightwise | hilarious | 08:13 |
| JamesTait | Good morning all! Happy Friday the 13th, and happy Blame Someone Else Day! 😃 | 08:51 |
| knightwise | Its your fault its friday the 13th JamesTait | 08:53 |
| davmor2 | JamesTait: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mkBS4zUjJZo | 08:53 |
| Switches | lol heya JamesTait | 08:54 |
| JamesTait | Nope. Totally davmor2's fault. | 08:54 |
| JamesTait | 👋 Switches | 08:54 |
| davmor2 | JamesTait: the music might be but it is entirely your fault as I choose it based on your days :P | 08:55 |
| knightwise | hmmm.. been working on the mac for the last couple of days at work , and i gotta say , i miss my linux machine | 09:01 |
| zmoylan-pi | little things irking you? | 09:02 |
| knightwise | yeah , | 09:02 |
| knightwise | OSX is like a fancy designer shirt that is a liiiitle too tight | 09:02 |
| brobostigon | night boys and girls. | 09:10 |
| knightwise | hey brobostigon | 09:10 |
| brobostigon | morning everyone and knightwise | 09:11 |
| knightwise | thanx for seperating me from everyone else brobostigon | 09:14 |
| knightwise | I always knew i was special :) | 09:14 |
| brobostigon | :) | 09:17 |
| knightwise | *Greetings Humans* | 09:17 |
| knightwise | (and brobostigon ) | 09:17 |
| brobostigon | :) | 09:17 |
| SuperMatt | Human? Who are you calling a human? | 09:24 |
| SuperMatt | I identify and a caterpillar | 09:25 |
| SuperMatt | (which explains why I'm always hungry) | 09:25 |
| zmoylan-pi | greetings carbon based lifeforms \o/ | 09:30 |
| SuperMatt | better | 09:30 |
| zmoylan-pi | i enjoyed this too much... :-) https://thechive.files.wordpress.com/2016/05/sht-happens-sometimes-2.gif | 09:32 |
| * brobostigon is a wizard , :) | 09:34 | |
| SuperMatt | yer a wizard, Harry? | 09:34 |
| brobostigon | no, not a potter wizard, a D&D wizard. | 09:36 |
| * zmoylan-pi is a half-orc in one game and human mercenary in another | 09:45 | |
| brobostigon | :) | 09:45 |
| SuperMatt | I need to play more D&D | 09:46 |
| * brobostigon normally plays a human wizard, as he likes magic, :) | 09:46 | |
| zmoylan-pi | you do, it's great fun | 09:46 |
| SuperMatt | not enough of my friends are interested though, so it's not an easy thing to get together | 09:46 |
| zmoylan-pi | i play as fighters as i like annoying the dm by not behaving to type... my half orc barbarian is a peace loving hippy | 09:47 |
| SuperMatt | though I understand that google hangouts is quite popular for remote d&d these days | 09:47 |
| foobarry | didn't d&d get replaced by skyrim? | 09:48 |
| zmoylan-pi | there are entire services devoted to playing online these days | 09:48 |
| zmoylan-pi | d&d will exist long after every game you play on a computer is dead and gone | 09:49 |
| brobostigon | i prefer to play in person, playing online is just too disconnected for me. | 09:49 |
| SuperMatt | I've got a lovely enough kitchen with a big enough table that I could host | 09:50 |
| SuperMatt | though I'm likely to host a poker game first | 09:50 |
| SuperMatt | oooh, that's what I should do for my birthday | 09:50 |
| Switches | Seems the steam forums are at it again with the Doom release.. all the crap about it not being on Linux lol | 09:50 |
| SuperMatt | I imagine it will come to linux later | 09:52 |
| brobostigon | i am in progress designing part 2 of the quest th group i play with started 5 weeks ago. | 09:52 |
| Switches | The best part of those arguments is when they bring the oh so important "usage" links into it... I sit and think yeah great, your using a usage graph on something that is pretty much untracable lol | 09:52 |
| SuperMatt | but the user reviews all seem pretty good | 09:52 |
| Switches | They are the game looks great, but it being Zenimax and Bethesda makes me think Linux prob wont see it | 09:52 |
| SuperMatt | steam's linux usage fluctuates around the 1% mark | 09:52 |
| zmoylan-pi | tabletop d&d with a dm who has all the figures... in multiples... https://twitter.com/angryearthling/status/711298949517221888/photo/1 :-D | 09:53 |
| SuperMatt | having said that, I'm not sure if it counts my pc twice, for having linux and windows | 09:53 |
| Switches | Yeah and Steam usage surveys don't pop up for most people :p | 09:53 |
| Switches | Actually it does, Once for Windows, Once for Linux (if you get the surveys in both ofcourse) | 09:54 |
| Switches | Also the people using steam in wine are counted as Windows as its the Windows client... | 09:54 |
| brobostigon | zmoylan-pi: :) | 09:55 |
| Switches | just one of them things I guess, I won't buy it till it's on Linux, same as I wont by Overwatch.. But the new UT ohhh im def buying that UE4 on linux is really nice | 09:55 |
| Switches | buy* | 09:56 |
| SuperMatt | the new UT is free, and will always be free | 09:56 |
| Switches | The one they were saying about on a UE stream sounded like it was being sold... if it's free that makes it even more a must have. | 09:57 |
| SuperMatt | https://www.epicgames.com/unrealtournament/ it's definitely free now though | 09:58 |
| Switches | Ohh the Alpha is yeah, but if you click the download there isn't one for Linux.. yet | 09:59 |
| SuperMatt | sure, but apparently it does work | 10:00 |
| SuperMatt | if you're willing to get your hands dirty | 10:00 |
| Switches | Hmm have to look on the dev site later, there may be a script like they did with the old UTs | 10:00 |
| SuperMatt | let me know if you find something | 10:01 |
| SuperMatt | I haven't been bothered to find out how to get it working in linux cos I have windows anyway | 10:01 |
| Switches | Will do, just reading the community posts about it at the mo | 10:01 |
| Switches | https://www.epicgames.com/unrealtournament/forums/showthread.php?19159-How-do-I-install-UT4-on-LInux | 10:04 |
| Switches | How to do it is in the community... downloading now :p | 10:04 |
| SuperMatt | thank you | 10:06 |
| Switches | Didn't think of looking in the community forums.. stupid of me, was looking in the dev forums as the engine download stuff is there >.< | 10:07 |
| SuperMatt | I've got it saved in my bookmarks, so if I have some time this weekend after playing Doom, I might check it out | 10:08 |
| Switches | :) | 10:08 |
| Switches | Don't have Windows around apart from my phone... So unfortunatly no doom for me | 10:09 |
| MooDoo | oh yeah forgot doom was being released today.... | 10:44 |
| MooDoo | friday 13th as well | 10:44 |
| MooDoo | code version 666? | 10:44 |
| SuperMatt | hurrr | 10:47 |
| SuperMatt | I'm hoping I'll get to blast some imps tonight | 10:47 |
| Switches | Would be good if it was, but I doubt the code version will be 666 | 10:47 |
| SuperMatt | I've got an opportunity to skip home early because there's a company meeting tonight, but I'm not my notice period, so none of this bothers me | 10:47 |
| Switches | Well getting off work early is always a good thing.. unless you're self employed.. | 10:49 |
| Myrtti | czajkowski: ping | 11:19 |
| czajkowski | Myrtti: pong | 11:51 |
| diddledan | marnin | 12:45 |
| SuperMatt | yo | 13:13 |
| diddledan | Linux is flippin' weird: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xPbAXKMCDkY | 14:02 |
| diddledan | love Bryan's presentations | 14:02 |
| Switches | Yeah watched that a while ago. The "Cow Milker" is the best :p | 14:13 |
| foobarry | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YeV0pLRyM7o | 14:48 |
| diddledan | "there are maybe 50 people in the world that understand selinux policies" http://www.serverwatch.com/server-news/selinux-vs-systemd-whats-safer-for-linux-servers.html | 15:09 |
| davmor2 | diddledan: and most of those work for the nsa and we know how well we can trust them with our secrets right | 15:16 |
| zmoylan-pi | they'll find *AFTER* the event what you were planning, so yes... | 15:29 |
| zmoylan-pi | and then add death by pineapples to their watchword list... :-P | 15:32 |
| diddledan | googacle trial is nuts | 16:16 |
| zmoylan-pi | googacle... is that we're calling it then? | 16:16 |
| diddledan | aye | 16:16 |
| * zmoylan-pi scribbles note in personal database... | 16:16 | |
| davmor2 | I wonder why people are trying to compare selinux and systemd, one is an init system and other a security system that the init system uses maybe I'm missing the point :D | 16:19 |
| zmoylan-pi | if it sparks an argument then it's work is done... :-P | 16:20 |
| diddledan | davmor2: systemd doesn't use selinux at all. they have similarities in process isolation, where systemd does it in a more portable anner | 16:20 |
| diddledan | manner | 16:20 |
| davmor2 | fair enough | 16:22 |
| diddledan | at the end-of-the-day selinux is a patch to the kernel where the tech that systemd uses is native | 16:27 |
| diddledan | the same tech behind things like docker | 16:27 |
| davmor2 | and lxd | 16:30 |
| davmor2 | diddledan: my point though remain they are not mutually exclusive systemd has plugins for both selinux and apparmor | 16:31 |
| diddledan | yup, I think the security patches of either selinux or apparmor are good things to continue using to add an extra layer | 16:33 |
| diddledan | really the tech that systemd, docker et al are using for isolation aren't actually security-boundaries. they're more just logical groups which can be isolated but aren't necessarily so. the selinux or apparmor can add DACs which prohibit breaking out | 16:34 |
| davmor2 | diddledan: indeed which is what lxd/lxc does again either with selinux or apparmor | 16:37 |
| sebsebseb | hi | 20:18 |
| Switches | heya | 20:22 |
| sebsebseb | Switches: hi | 20:22 |
| gebbione | hi folks, i cannot get my ethernet started on my desktop. The adapter light is off and trying to run network restart won't work. I have also started nm-applet but the network icon is also gone and it fails starting | 21:16 |
| daftykins | version? | 21:16 |
| daftykins | what changed since it last worked? | 21:17 |
| diddledan | have you tried rebooting? | 21:18 |
| * daftykins chases diddledan with a Doom chainsaw | 21:18 | |
| diddledan | network-manager is a pain in that once it’s stopped working properly only a full reboot will fix it :-( | 21:18 |
| daftykins | (new one came out today :O ) | 21:18 |
| diddledan | daftykins: it had better be shareware | 21:19 |
| daftykins | my fellow volunteers tell me it has been broken - https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/network-manager/+bug/1434986 | 21:19 |
| lubotu3 | Ubuntu bug 1434986 in network-manager (Ubuntu) "Not working network connection after boot" [Critical,Triaged] | 21:19 |
| m6lpi | Oops | 21:19 |
| daftykins | gebbione: ...? | 21:22 |
| diddledan | I miss ifup and ifdown-based network management | 21:23 |
| daftykins | i still purge resolvconf and hardcode config on servers :> | 21:24 |
| diddledan | I get that desktops like point-n-click windows-style interfaces but the /etc/network/interfaces file was much easier | 21:24 |
| daftykins | have to reboot now though, can't just restart the service anymore | 21:24 |
| diddledan | yeah, `service networking restart` was easy and it seems to me they’ve broken it by mandating network manager | 21:25 |
| gebbione | daftykins, didn't see the reply until now | 21:26 |
| gebbione | i think it was the last update | 21:26 |
| gebbione | i installed it yesterday night | 21:27 |
| gebbione | i m going through http://askubuntu.com/questions/771627/14-04-network-manager-stopped-working/771841#771841 now | 21:27 |
| daftykins | and version? | 21:27 |
| gebbione | 14-04 | 21:27 |
| daftykins | i also had someone tell me of: | 21:27 |
| daftykins | http://askubuntu.com/questions/771627/14-04-network-manager-stopped-working/771841#771841 ; https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/network-manager/+bug/1539634 | 21:27 |
| lubotu3 | Ubuntu bug 1539634 in network-manager (Ubuntu Trusty) "network-manager crashes when using libnl-3-200-3.21.1-1ubuntu1" [High,Fix released] | 21:27 |
| daftykins | so could be a recovery mode update perhaps | 21:28 |
| gebbione | i entered recovery mode with no networking i think | 21:28 |
| gebbione | i might need to reboot | 21:28 |
| daftykins | is it a desktop? | 21:28 |
| daftykins | you could bring things up manually to update | 21:28 |
| daftykins | if connected to a router/switch with a cable it wouldn't be too much effort | 21:29 |
| gebbione | sudo apt-get update? | 21:29 |
| gebbione | well it is root already | 21:29 |
| daftykins | well it depends if your connection is up | 21:29 |
| diddledan | you’re in recovery mode and wondering why you don’t have normal functionality? | 21:30 |
| gebbione | no it is not | 21:30 |
| daftykins | ping your router first maybe, then google.co.uk as a test | 21:30 |
| daftykins | ok, identify your interface name via "ifconfig -a" - you might see eth0 or it could be a new funky name depending on your setup | 21:30 |
| diddledan | hint: recovery mode is limited functionality | 21:30 |
| gebbione | update failed to resolve repos | 21:30 |
| diddledan | it’s designed to be limited | 21:30 |
| diddledan | expecting unlimited is stupid | 21:31 |
| gebbione | i ll restart with networking enabled, should work right? | 21:31 |
| daftykins | oh is that a choice that comes up? wasn't aware, never really used recovery | 21:32 |
| diddledan | ignore me, I’ll leave you to it | 21:33 |
| daftykins | nah it's all good, i don't really follow the present modes limitations | 21:35 |
| diddledan | this is hilarious: http://www.callmyadagency.com/page4.html | 22:21 |
| diddledan | “don’t use other designers, because we use all of our brains" | 22:21 |
| daftykins | dingo dunny paper ;D | 22:21 |
| diddledan | read the text. it’s nuts. | 22:22 |
| daftykins | but it's the weekend! :) | 22:22 |
| daftykins | i've been invited to a small Eurovision watching gathering tomorrow night | 22:22 |
| diddledan | ok. somehow victoria’s secret think I’ve ordered something from them using an email account I rarely touch | 23:03 |
| diddledan | and yes, it really is the real victoria’s secret and not a phish | 23:03 |
| diddledan | apparently I bought this: https://www.victoriassecret.com/bras/shop-all-bras/cotton-bra-top-pink?ProductID=288529&CatalogueType=OLS | 23:05 |
| daftykins | hmm i don't think much of your taste | 23:09 |
| daftykins | have i told you before about all the people in the US that sign up to things with my personal gmail? | 23:09 |
| diddledan | I also have a “victoria’s secret card" | 23:09 |
| daftykins | quite honestly the only way to get rid of one was to do a password reset on the account, email them asking to cancel the order... then sit back and watch | 23:10 |
| daftykins | when i got the support guys email saying "here's the time you asked us to cancel your order" with my cancel copied in, i lul'd | 23:10 |
| daftykins | Deborah kins suffered my wrath that day | 23:11 |
| diddledan | someone signed-up to match.com using my email a while back | 23:11 |
| daftykins | i hope they described you well :D | 23:11 |
| diddledan | no. they really didn’t. he was a weedy child | 23:11 |
| daftykins | aww | 23:11 |
| daftykins | well they need love too, sir | 23:12 |
| popey | Evening! | 23:12 |
| diddledan | ‘owdo | 23:12 |
| diddledan | oh, and this is a good one from a few days ago: I invited myself to test my ios app, apparently | 23:13 |
| diddledan | “From: Daniel Llewellyn’s Projects (via Crashlytics)” from my email to my email “You’ve been invited to test NoCarrotFitness" | 23:14 |
| diddledan | oh no, not quite from my email - from a similar email @gmail to my icloud email | 23:15 |
| diddledan | someone using the gmail danieln.llewellyn@gmail.com | 23:15 |
| diddledan | my icloud is daniel.llewellyn@icloud.com | 23:16 |
| diddledan | (now watch as bots harvest that from the logs archive and spam me sideways) | 23:16 |
| daftykins | and now they're harvestable from the public logs ;D | 23:16 |
| daftykins | yes XD | 23:16 |
| diddledan | great minds... | 23:16 |
| daftykins | ...look for dessert | 23:17 |
| daftykins | mines a chocolate chip flapjack | 23:17 |
| diddledan | mmmm. dessert | 23:17 |
| daftykins | you knows it | 23:21 |
| daftykins | the moment i saw half price ice cream on the local supermarket deal mailer too, oof | 23:21 |
| daftykins | my gut had no chance | 23:21 |
| diddledan | damn | 23:22 |
| diddledan | I hate when they force me to buy bargain glutenous food | 23:22 |
| diddledan | it’s unfair to make stuff I love cheap | 23:23 |
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