[01:09] I want a Lenovo thinkpad so I can rub my nipple in public [01:09] seriously, what's with those things anyway? [01:12] I have a HP nipple [01:12] some HP EliteBook 820 i think [01:12] do you fondle it in public places? [01:13] all the time at the officde [01:13] \o/ [01:15] i opened an interesting FreeNAS bug.. https://bugs.freenas.org/issues/15274#change-76677 [01:18] if doing . /etc/enviornment the env variables are not reloading when i run env [01:18] any reasons? [02:01] ooh, one of my raspis running win10 just reboobed for an update [02:06] perhaps it'll improve mammary management [02:08] speaking of, the login on here is still claiming i need to reboot [02:14] http://www.wsj.com/articles/if-your-teacher-sounds-like-a-robot-you-might-be-on-to-something-1462546621 [04:56] morning all [05:25] o/ [05:26] * zmoylan-pi hands around the crunchies [05:49] :) yum [06:25] morning [06:27] morning chap :) [06:28] hey MooDoo , how are you doing today [06:29] knightwise: now the internet is backup at work, I can relax a little [07:19] Enjoying my friday her e:) [07:26] knightwise: where are you? at work or on hols? [07:32] at work :) [07:33] i'm a freelancer .. hols are rare [07:48] morning [07:51] morning popey === Switches is now known as Switches_ === Switches_ is now known as Switches [07:52] Morning all [07:53] hey Switches [07:55] Heya knightwise [08:05] Morning all from the caravan :) [08:06] Heya davmor2 [08:06] davmor2: you lucky B¨sterd [08:07] knightwise: it is a caravan in England I see grey mostly :) today is a bit brighter :) [08:07] * popey heads to the airport [08:07] ttfn [08:07] But I still see lots of grey [08:07] popey: again [08:07] hope you brought the travel scrabble and the scrabble [08:09] and don't forget to do riverdance in the caravan... :-) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QKovBepY7v0 [08:09] Cya popey [08:09] zmoylan-pi: I have 20Mb down and 10Mb up why would I have scrabble [08:10] it's obviously not raining enough if you still have that much data :-) [08:10] rofl [08:13] * Giggles * [08:13] hilarious [08:51] Good morning all! Happy Friday the 13th, and happy Blame Someone Else Day! 😃 [08:53] Its your fault its friday the 13th JamesTait [08:53] JamesTait: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mkBS4zUjJZo [08:54] lol heya JamesTait [08:54] Nope. Totally davmor2's fault. [08:54] 👋 Switches [08:55] JamesTait: the music might be but it is entirely your fault as I choose it based on your days :P [09:01] hmmm.. been working on the mac for the last couple of days at work , and i gotta say , i miss my linux machine [09:02] little things irking you? [09:02] yeah , [09:02] OSX is like a fancy designer shirt that is a liiiitle too tight [09:10] night boys and girls. [09:10] hey brobostigon [09:11] morning everyone and knightwise [09:14] thanx for seperating me from everyone else brobostigon [09:14] I always knew i was special :) [09:17] :) [09:17] *Greetings Humans* [09:17] (and brobostigon ) [09:17] :) [09:24] Human? Who are you calling a human? [09:25] I identify and a caterpillar [09:25] (which explains why I'm always hungry) [09:30] greetings carbon based lifeforms \o/ [09:30] better [09:32] i enjoyed this too much... :-) https://thechive.files.wordpress.com/2016/05/sht-happens-sometimes-2.gif [09:34] * brobostigon is a wizard , :) [09:34] yer a wizard, Harry? [09:36] no, not a potter wizard, a D&D wizard. [09:45] * zmoylan-pi is a half-orc in one game and human mercenary in another [09:45] :) [09:46] I need to play more D&D [09:46] * brobostigon normally plays a human wizard, as he likes magic, :) [09:46] you do, it's great fun [09:46] not enough of my friends are interested though, so it's not an easy thing to get together [09:47] i play as fighters as i like annoying the dm by not behaving to type... my half orc barbarian is a peace loving hippy [09:47] though I understand that google hangouts is quite popular for remote d&d these days [09:48] didn't d&d get replaced by skyrim? [09:48] there are entire services devoted to playing online these days [09:49] d&d will exist long after every game you play on a computer is dead and gone [09:49] i prefer to play in person, playing online is just too disconnected for me. [09:50] I've got a lovely enough kitchen with a big enough table that I could host [09:50] though I'm likely to host a poker game first [09:50] oooh, that's what I should do for my birthday [09:50] Seems the steam forums are at it again with the Doom release.. all the crap about it not being on Linux lol [09:52] I imagine it will come to linux later [09:52] i am in progress designing part 2 of the quest th group i play with started 5 weeks ago. [09:52] The best part of those arguments is when they bring the oh so important "usage" links into it... I sit and think yeah great, your using a usage graph on something that is pretty much untracable lol [09:52] but the user reviews all seem pretty good [09:52] They are the game looks great, but it being Zenimax and Bethesda makes me think Linux prob wont see it [09:52] steam's linux usage fluctuates around the 1% mark [09:53] tabletop d&d with a dm who has all the figures... in multiples... https://twitter.com/angryearthling/status/711298949517221888/photo/1 :-D [09:53] having said that, I'm not sure if it counts my pc twice, for having linux and windows [09:53] Yeah and Steam usage surveys don't pop up for most people :p [09:54] Actually it does, Once for Windows, Once for Linux (if you get the surveys in both ofcourse) [09:54] Also the people using steam in wine are counted as Windows as its the Windows client... [09:55] zmoylan-pi: :) [09:55] just one of them things I guess, I won't buy it till it's on Linux, same as I wont by Overwatch.. But the new UT ohhh im def buying that UE4 on linux is really nice [09:56] buy* [09:56] the new UT is free, and will always be free [09:57] The one they were saying about on a UE stream sounded like it was being sold... if it's free that makes it even more a must have. [09:58] https://www.epicgames.com/unrealtournament/ it's definitely free now though [09:59] Ohh the Alpha is yeah, but if you click the download there isn't one for Linux.. yet [10:00] sure, but apparently it does work [10:00] if you're willing to get your hands dirty [10:00] Hmm have to look on the dev site later, there may be a script like they did with the old UTs [10:01] let me know if you find something [10:01] I haven't been bothered to find out how to get it working in linux cos I have windows anyway [10:01] Will do, just reading the community posts about it at the mo [10:04] https://www.epicgames.com/unrealtournament/forums/showthread.php?19159-How-do-I-install-UT4-on-LInux [10:04] How to do it is in the community... downloading now :p [10:06] thank you [10:07] Didn't think of looking in the community forums.. stupid of me, was looking in the dev forums as the engine download stuff is there >.< [10:08] I've got it saved in my bookmarks, so if I have some time this weekend after playing Doom, I might check it out [10:08] :) [10:09] Don't have Windows around apart from my phone... So unfortunatly no doom for me [10:44] oh yeah forgot doom was being released today.... [10:44] friday 13th as well [10:44] code version 666? [10:47] hurrr [10:47] I'm hoping I'll get to blast some imps tonight [10:47] Would be good if it was, but I doubt the code version will be 666 [10:47] I've got an opportunity to skip home early because there's a company meeting tonight, but I'm not my notice period, so none of this bothers me [10:49] Well getting off work early is always a good thing.. unless you're self employed.. [11:19] czajkowski: ping [11:51] Myrtti: pong [12:45] marnin [13:13] yo [14:02] Linux is flippin' weird: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xPbAXKMCDkY [14:02] love Bryan's presentations [14:13] Yeah watched that a while ago. The "Cow Milker" is the best :p [14:48] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YeV0pLRyM7o [15:09] "there are maybe 50 people in the world that understand selinux policies" http://www.serverwatch.com/server-news/selinux-vs-systemd-whats-safer-for-linux-servers.html [15:16] diddledan: and most of those work for the nsa and we know how well we can trust them with our secrets right [15:29] they'll find *AFTER* the event what you were planning, so yes... [15:32] and then add death by pineapples to their watchword list... :-P [16:16] googacle trial is nuts [16:16] googacle... is that we're calling it then? [16:16] aye [16:16] * zmoylan-pi scribbles note in personal database... [16:19] I wonder why people are trying to compare selinux and systemd, one is an init system and other a security system that the init system uses maybe I'm missing the point :D [16:20] if it sparks an argument then it's work is done... :-P [16:20] davmor2: systemd doesn't use selinux at all. they have similarities in process isolation, where systemd does it in a more portable anner [16:20] manner [16:22] fair enough [16:27] at the end-of-the-day selinux is a patch to the kernel where the tech that systemd uses is native [16:27] the same tech behind things like docker [16:30] and lxd [16:31] diddledan: my point though remain they are not mutually exclusive systemd has plugins for both selinux and apparmor [16:33] yup, I think the security patches of either selinux or apparmor are good things to continue using to add an extra layer [16:34] really the tech that systemd, docker et al are using for isolation aren't actually security-boundaries. they're more just logical groups which can be isolated but aren't necessarily so. the selinux or apparmor can add DACs which prohibit breaking out [16:37] diddledan: indeed which is what lxd/lxc does again either with selinux or apparmor [20:18] hi [20:22] heya [20:22] Switches: hi [21:16] hi folks, i cannot get my ethernet started on my desktop. The adapter light is off and trying to run network restart won't work. I have also started nm-applet but the network icon is also gone and it fails starting [21:16] version? [21:17] what changed since it last worked? [21:18] have you tried rebooting? [21:18] * daftykins chases diddledan with a Doom chainsaw [21:18] network-manager is a pain in that once it’s stopped working properly only a full reboot will fix it :-( [21:18] (new one came out today :O ) [21:19] daftykins: it had better be shareware [21:19] my fellow volunteers tell me it has been broken - https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/network-manager/+bug/1434986 [21:19] Ubuntu bug 1434986 in network-manager (Ubuntu) "Not working network connection after boot" [Critical,Triaged] [21:19] Oops [21:22] gebbione: ...? [21:23] I miss ifup and ifdown-based network management [21:24] i still purge resolvconf and hardcode config on servers :> [21:24] I get that desktops like point-n-click windows-style interfaces but the /etc/network/interfaces file was much easier [21:24] have to reboot now though, can't just restart the service anymore [21:25] yeah, `service networking restart` was easy and it seems to me they’ve broken it by mandating network manager [21:26] daftykins, didn't see the reply until now [21:26] i think it was the last update [21:27] i installed it yesterday night [21:27] i m going through http://askubuntu.com/questions/771627/14-04-network-manager-stopped-working/771841#771841 now [21:27] and version? [21:27] 14-04 [21:27] i also had someone tell me of: [21:27] http://askubuntu.com/questions/771627/14-04-network-manager-stopped-working/771841#771841 ; https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/network-manager/+bug/1539634 [21:27] Ubuntu bug 1539634 in network-manager (Ubuntu Trusty) "network-manager crashes when using libnl-3-200-3.21.1-1ubuntu1" [High,Fix released] [21:28] so could be a recovery mode update perhaps [21:28] i entered recovery mode with no networking i think [21:28] i might need to reboot [21:28] is it a desktop? [21:28] you could bring things up manually to update [21:29] if connected to a router/switch with a cable it wouldn't be too much effort [21:29] sudo apt-get update? [21:29] well it is root already [21:29] well it depends if your connection is up [21:30] you’re in recovery mode and wondering why you don’t have normal functionality? [21:30] no it is not [21:30] ping your router first maybe, then google.co.uk as a test [21:30] ok, identify your interface name via "ifconfig -a" - you might see eth0 or it could be a new funky name depending on your setup [21:30] hint: recovery mode is limited functionality [21:30] update failed to resolve repos [21:30] it’s designed to be limited [21:31] expecting unlimited is stupid [21:31] i ll restart with networking enabled, should work right? [21:32] oh is that a choice that comes up? wasn't aware, never really used recovery [21:33] ignore me, I’ll leave you to it [21:35] nah it's all good, i don't really follow the present modes limitations [22:21] this is hilarious: http://www.callmyadagency.com/page4.html [22:21] “don’t use other designers, because we use all of our brains" [22:21] dingo dunny paper ;D [22:22] read the text. it’s nuts. [22:22] but it's the weekend! :) [22:22] i've been invited to a small Eurovision watching gathering tomorrow night [23:03] ok. somehow victoria’s secret think I’ve ordered something from them using an email account I rarely touch [23:03] and yes, it really is the real victoria’s secret and not a phish [23:05] apparently I bought this: https://www.victoriassecret.com/bras/shop-all-bras/cotton-bra-top-pink?ProductID=288529&CatalogueType=OLS [23:09] hmm i don't think much of your taste [23:09] have i told you before about all the people in the US that sign up to things with my personal gmail? [23:09] I also have a “victoria’s secret card" [23:10] quite honestly the only way to get rid of one was to do a password reset on the account, email them asking to cancel the order... then sit back and watch [23:10] when i got the support guys email saying "here's the time you asked us to cancel your order" with my cancel copied in, i lul'd [23:11] Deborah kins suffered my wrath that day [23:11] someone signed-up to match.com using my email a while back [23:11] i hope they described you well :D [23:11] no. they really didn’t. he was a weedy child [23:11] aww [23:12] well they need love too, sir [23:12] Evening! [23:12] ‘owdo [23:13] oh, and this is a good one from a few days ago: I invited myself to test my ios app, apparently [23:14] “From: Daniel Llewellyn’s Projects (via Crashlytics)” from my email to my email “You’ve been invited to test NoCarrotFitness" [23:15] oh no, not quite from my email - from a similar email @gmail to my icloud email [23:15] someone using the gmail danieln.llewellyn@gmail.com [23:16] my icloud is daniel.llewellyn@icloud.com [23:16] (now watch as bots harvest that from the logs archive and spam me sideways) [23:16] and now they're harvestable from the public logs ;D [23:16] yes XD [23:16] great minds... [23:17] ...look for dessert [23:17] mines a chocolate chip flapjack [23:17] mmmm. dessert [23:21] you knows it [23:21] the moment i saw half price ice cream on the local supermarket deal mailer too, oof [23:21] my gut had no chance [23:22] damn [23:22] I hate when they force me to buy bargain glutenous food [23:23] it’s unfair to make stuff I love cheap